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It is 6:36. 6 >> 536 >> 5:36 See, the time's not even right. >> Yeah. >> All right. With that, we don't have anyone here for an invocation. So, if we can just stand and give a few

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moments of silence for the loss of our Lindsey Graham. All right. If everyone will join me in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [clears throat] All right, that we're going to begin this workshop uh fiscal year 2027 budget cycle. So, if you want to go ahead, Larry, and

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between you and Crystal present. And if anybody up here has a question for either one of them, if you'll just let me know and I'll pick you up. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor Prom. Uh thank you, council, for the opportunity to be before you tonight for our budget

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workshop number two regarding our 2027 proposed budget. As we've mentioned the last two or three budget cycles, uh we preserve our heritage and protect our future by making good decisions today. So, we hope

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what is presented to you in this budget presentation will reflect some good decisions that are good for all of the citizens that we serve. Um we're going to start with a high level overview of the total proposed budget. uh you will be asked at the July 20th

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council meeting to adopt a tenative millage rate. Uh staff are proposing that that millage rate remain at 1 6150. Uh this would be the 10th consecutive year. However, the um this represents a

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66% increase when you consider the roll back rate. Uh but that equates to about a $4 average for each homestead property. And I believe it's $7 for non-h homesteaded residential properties.

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Uh this is a draft of the budget summary that that you see before you. The top half of the advertisement shows the cash inflows. The bottom half shows the proposed cash outflows. And as currently proposed, we anticipate

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a $133,000 increase into the general revenue fund balance. So, as opposed to taken from the reserves to fund any portion of this budget, we're anticipating over $100,000 in um increased balance in that general

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fund balance. So, the total expenditures is proposed at just under $46 million at 45.9 million. This pie chart shows the funding sources for that 49 45.9 million. Uh nearly

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onethird of this budget will be paid for from grants and shared revenues from the state and county. Um 8% of of the budget will be paid from the prior year balances from the restricted funds and that'll be impact fees, gas taxes, CR funds, uh parking funds, and those type

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funds that have restrictions around them. Again, we will not use any general fund reserves this year to fund the budget, but we will anticipate increasing it by $133,000. Um, only about onethird of the budget

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will be paid for from adorable taxes. Um, so we move to the next chart and it shows the progression over time of the property values within the city's jurisdiction. Uh this year the taxable value is an increase of about 2% over

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last year. We are proposing that the city stay a millage rate of 1.615 mills which has been in effect since October of 2017. The roll back rate as calculated by the

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Florida Department of Revenue is 1.6044 mills um or that would be 1.6 615 um is a 60.66 less than 1% uh higher than the roll

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back rate. Adopting the roll back rate would result in uh $94,000 less revenues for the city and 34,000 for the CRA districts for a total of 128,000 decrease in that in revenues. Adopting

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the current 1.615 615 again would cost homesteaded properties about $4 per year and about $7 for residential non-h homestead properties. The next chart shows the total proposed uh budget by function. uh the in the

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general government component of that pie chart about five and a half million dollars of that is debt service and you can see from the transportation it was uh a good portion of it cultural rec recreation another large portion of it then uh you can see the rest there in

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that pie chart. Um then we look at the next page we'll see a breakdown of operations debt service and capital projects. If you recall at our last budget workshop, the proposed operating budget is 4% lower than the current FY26

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budget, and we're still anticipating that as we move forward. Uh so, uh we're going to focus now on the capital improvement plan. Our current capital year budget was about $41 million. And of that 41 million in the current year's

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budget, uh 20 million has been spent, 15 million is under contract, and we're looking at rolling six million move forward to continue the projects into the next budget year. Those are projects that have not been have been started but have not been completed. Um this 6

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million is about onethird of the FY27 proposed budget to complete the capital projects that are currently underway. Um later in the presentation, we'll look at the projects that were completed in 26 and a closer look at those we'll propose for 2027.

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Uh the next pie chart is a planned capital investment for the 2027 fiscal year. And we'll look more details in the coming slides, but you'll see that transportation is um is heavily funded. That's three and a half billion to

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complete the cross town connector. 3.7 to repave roads that have not been uh touched since uh from 2000 I mean 1970 to 1995. So uh there's some roads that haven't been touched in a long time that need some work. Uh 1.8 million to

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reconstruct Dolphin Street, 1.5 million for Mad Kelly Boulevard north south and the sidewalks. And we're anticipating that being funded by Town City C Town Center CRA and then uh a million dollars for parking lots at the Destin Little

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League Park and the Zerby cyber parking facility. So how do we pay for those? Um 34% will come from grant funds, 33% from uh primarily uh infrastructure sir tax and

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gas tax uh one and then 1.5 million from the town center CRA which again is for the Matty Kelly Boulevard. Um 800,000 from the general fund would uh pay for uh 333,000 of the main street

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beautifification project. This is a result of what came out of our visioning session. 150,000 for community center windows and doors and stucco and 75,000 for new sound system for here in the council chambers.

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So what happened this year and what has been completed? We dredged the uh Harbor Channel. We completed Norie Point Park uh the Morgan Sports Center playground Morgan Sports Center athletic field lighting. the Morgan Sports Center

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batting cages. Uh we partnered with the Destin Little League for the artificial turf at Dton Threadill Park. We purchased land at Dton Threadill Park to expand the parking. Uh we improved the Magic Kelly outfall and

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this is in preparation to the Joe's Bio uh improvements. We resurfaced the Buck Destin courts, added new fencing there. We repaved uh 11.6 six miles of lane miles of roadways and that was 16 seconds including a portion of airport

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road. We completed the cross town connector stormwater retention units. Uh we completed the pickle ball courts. So what's in process uh tarpon beach park we'll have that opening on Wednesday morning 7:30. Uh Clementator Park is

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still ongoing. um pretty well completed other than the bathroom component which we're waiting for it to arrive. Uh we're in process of working on the community center roof. We've got 9.6 more lane miles of road are scheduled to be completed.

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We're continuing the underground to underground the overhead utilities uh that primarily the switching will occur when FPNL completes the installation of their uh additional power infrastructure. Cross Town Connector Roadway is under construction and the

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Morgan Sports Field equipment shed is still in the works for this year. Uh coming up next year for 2027 highlights is the Matt Kelly Boulevard north south road connection, the Matty Kelly

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Boulevard sidewalk and bike lane. John Avenue from Dolphin to Sailfish and Dolphin Reconstruction. That's the road and the sidewalk. 36 roadways to be repaved. Again, those are from 1970 to 1995 without being

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touched. The main street beautifification, the Zerby parking lot, and the Dalton thread gill parking community center doors, windows, and stucco. Um, field fencing at Morgan Sports Center,

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restrooms at Morgan's, uh, buck destin playground, Dalton threadgill uh, lighting and the dog park fence, shores Crystal Beach Park, and to replace some of the boardwalks at the beach access points with TDC dollars.

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So things that are still in progress is the Clementator Park, Four-Prong Lake, uh Cross Town Connector, Crystal Beach, and the undergrounding component. Okay. Uh the community center, Morgan

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Sports Center, and you see the um numbers there associated with each of those. Uh the Morgan Sport Center is the uh fencing and the addition of bathrooms. The community center are the windows, doors, and stucco. The buck destined playground. Um the Dalton

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Threadgill is the athletic field lighting in the parking lot. The dog park is fencing and the cemeteries is some landscaping we need to work on there. Um new roads and sidewalks, Matty Kelly. Again, that's uh with the town center

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CRA funds. the Dolphin and John Avenue uh Dolphin to Selffish is uh to assist with the movement of traffic around the new Tarpon Park and the parking lot at Cyber and Zerby. Um and then we tend to replace about 61,000 sidewalk panels

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each year. Um when we talk about the parking lot at uh Cyber and Serby, um that is looking at paving that lot. However, we will certainly look at alternatives. It may be uh more feasible to do it with a mill surface and perhaps

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avoiding some storm water requirements that may be needed there. But we will look at that uh before we bring it back to you for any action. [clears throat] The next slide is a list of equipment that are that is represented in our renewal and replacement program. Um none

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of these are set in stone. Uh for instance, we have nine vehicles scheduled to be uh renewed and replaced. Uh before we go buying vehicles, we're going to make sure that uh they need to be replaced that they we can't repurpose them and move them in another location

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to get some more mileage out of them. And as we look through, particularly the equipment pieces, any of them that we can get extra time out of, we're going to hold off on moving forward and making those purchases. Um, so what you see there is a list of those items that are

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in that renewal and replacement. Um, page 126 of the draft budget shows more detailed list. Um, and if the item is be replaced, uh, the year the item was last replaced is included in the description. Um, so again, we're asking our directors

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before we go start ordering equipment and buying equipment that we take a hard look at whether we've got need to do that and it's time to do it now. Yes, ma'am. Sorry. Um, just to interrupt for a minute, Miss Traml, did you have a question for them? >> Well, I had two questions. The first one was, do we have all the uh easements for

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the >> Maddie Kelly? We're still working on those. >> Put your speaker back on there. >> And and the second question is what that you just talked about. What's a pipe hunter? >> What's a what? >> Pipe hunter. >> It's a

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make sure we don't blow pipes up here. Is it is it [clears throat] >> the pipe hunter is a combination jet and vacuum uh trailer that we use to clean the storm sewers?

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We've had one since 2017, I believe, and it is uh at the end of its useful life. >> Okay, thank you. Does anyone else have questions while they're at a stopping point? any descend. >> Go ahead, Larry.

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>> Well, um you've got a draft budget book. Um you'll find on uh page 11 are the fund balances. Uh the capital project details on page 62, the five-year capital improvement plans with details uh start on page 126. So those are just

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some numbers in the draft book that you might find uh helpful. Our next step is July the 20th. we'll ask you to adopt a tenative military. Um then the September 8th and 21st are our budget hearings so that we finalize and adopt a budget. So

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any of you would like more detailed briefings, we can certainly schedule those in the interim. Uh but with that, that's the broad picture of what we're looking at. Um, I want to thank Crystal for her hard work that's gone into getting us to this point and our staff uh, who have worked very diligently to

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make sure we're spending uh, money the way that it should be spent to make sure we deliver a dollars worth of services to our citizens when we spend a dollar of their hard-earned tax money. So, we've entertained any questions and probably deferred Miss Crystal on more

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of the details, but anything you might like to ask? We're >> Well, first of all, thanks Larry and thanks Crystal for doing a great job. I reviewed it. I was looking over it last night and I was very pleased to see that we're coming in under budget compared to last year. I mean, it's awesome. Um, as far as any questions, I'll start at that

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end. Rodney, would you um have any questions you want to approach? >> Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Um, start on page 55. Um, I see ones that uh bank fees, $5,200. Just says bank fees.

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What could that be? >> Bank fees are bank fees. Um, looking on page 55, you said is there a uh so from the general fund? >> Yeah, those are um >> Oh, are you looking at the um the interest earned >> uh >> or the fees 549

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>> 2027 draft budget 2026 0710 whatever which oneever that is. >> Can you uh repeat those numbers again? Finance director Crystal Strickland. >> Okay. Yes. And it says bank fees 5,200. >> Yes, ma'am.

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>> Yes. So, um I've negotiated a rate of 3.1% from Trustmark. Uh that's interest that I earn on the checking. Uh but with that, I also have to pay fees on the bank account. >> So, so they do charge us fees,

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>> but I'm earning hundred plus thousand dollars a year in return for about $5,000 a year in bank fees. >> Yeah. I was just curious. I surprised [clears throat] they was even charging us bank fee for as much money as we go through >> when you negotiate a a rate that high.

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It's common practice to >> to to give them the bank fees. >> Okay, cool. Um and is it uh was I reading it right that we're um code the code department is costing us1,73,71. >> That that sounds about right. Let's see.

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go back to the um do you have a page number for that? I did put the net >> I didn't write it down. I'm sorry. >> Actually, um code is bringing in more money than it's spending, but the balance the net difference is going to help us pay for the um the sheriff's

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officers and the lifeguards. >> Okay, >> they're bringing in about a million more than they um cost. >> And I had a question up here on page 23. [clears throat] See if I can find it again. emergency management page 20. Oh, wait.

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Sorry. Parking or median maintenance. >> It was um Yeah, the parking parking fund uh under parking >> was um the Raymond James interest 80,000. Is that the interest we made off that? >> That's correct. >> Money. Wow. >> So, because we have such a we're up

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[clears throat] over $3 million in the parking fund right now and over 80% of that is invested with Raymond James. had no idea we was invested that with them. >> Cool. That's all I have. Thank you. >> All right, Rodney. Um John, you have some questions. >> Thank you. Uh appreciate you guys doing

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this. Uh Crystal, awesome. Um I do have two questions. Uh one of them is with a fleet replacement. Uh I saw that slide where it talked about you replacing stuff between 8 and 11 years. Um but I'm looking there's a 2020 Chevy Silverado.

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Um, so I'm thinking that can probably be waited one more year if you're basing off the eight years. Does that sound about right? >> Yes, that sounds right. I believe uh yes, uh Lisa and Michael were talking about that today. So yes, we agree. >> Okay. Um and then

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for capital um improvement um ideas, I'd love to see uh One Harbor Boulevard um I want to see that seaw wall get fixed. I don't know if this if this is the right time to talk about that. Um or uh and I I don't

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even know how much that's going to cost, but I I just want to open it up to where the public can use it. Uh I I feel like uh uh like the main street um beautifification, that area, it's it's pretty much already in uh

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uh how do I say it? It's functional today. Um, I mean, Cyber Zerby parking lot, it's functional today also with gravel, but one Harbor Boulevard, we can't even use it right now. Um, so I don't know if if we can look at potentially trying to replace that seaw

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wall. Um, repair uh remove that temporary construction sign or fence at the bottom, get rid of the sand spurs. Um, maybe even put like a temporary uh future city of Destin Park sign. I don't know. But uh

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do would we have to remove something to rep to add that? >> Yeah. So um I think Robert, do you have the most recent information on repairing the seaw wall? >> I will have to look that up. Uh last

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time I remember a number was like three and a half million. Uh unfortunately some of these funds are are you can't use like the parking fund for this. So uh let me look that up real quick.

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I can add a little bit to that. Actually the three and a half million also um incorporated the uh multi-use path under the bridge and and through that property in addition to the uh seaw wall work. Um the estimate I looked at today, the cost

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estimate from the engineer didn't really have it itemized to the point where you could say this is specifically what the seaw wall would cost and this is everything else. So we can ask the engineer to provide that information to us. It's just what we have right now didn't really uh differentiate that

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well. But I I wouldn't surprise me if it's a million plus to get that seaw wall work done. And the only available uh funding source that I'd have to cover that right now would be the general fund. So it would mean uh dipping into the fund balance next year if we wanted to um go that

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direction. >> Could we I mean I don't know how everyone else feels, but could we take away the main street beautifification andor uh paving uh cyber zer? >> Uh cyber zer is from parking funds which wouldn't uh fit the bill, but the main

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street beautifification at 333. Um, that could be some of the money money that we need. >> Is that not out of the CRA? >> It but it's not in the CRA master plan. >> Okay. >> Well, the other thing are you talk when you're talking about the Zerby parking lot, are you talking about the

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additional parking that is now being used by the undergrounding? You're not talking about what's currently there. >> That That's correct. >> That we wouldn't be able to park on that unless they did do something. >> Okay. >> All right. I I guess that's really all

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all I'd like to see is one harbor, but okay. Thank you. >> Do we do you have some questions? >> I do. >> Back to that subject on the uh the property by the bridge. We need to come up with some kind of a plan because that's the one I'm constantly asked

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about as it sits there torment. What are we going to do? So, I would recommend somewhere that we get some kind of an idea. the uh parking funds can be used wherever there's parking. Is that a safe assumption?

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>> Uh parking funds can use uh to address parking issues. That's correct. >> So if we put some parking in there, however number we decide is appropriate, then perhaps >> that would increase the the improvements from three and a half million. It would increase it to

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something higher. Um we could get those numbers for you. It depends on how many parking spaces we put in. Of course, >> that's correct. Yeah, parking spaces run these days uh on a flat surface. If you're not building up, they they run about $20,000 a piece. >> The point I'm making is there's a way to

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use those funds. We just have to be creative. Um on how many vehicles do we have in our fleet? Just a guess. >> High30s. >> 30. >> High30s. 40 somewhere right around

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there. We're replacing nine of them and it's strictly driven by age. Is that what it's driven by at the moment? >> Yeah. [clears throat] When we uh put the renewal and replacement plan together, we used guidance from the Government Services Administration for light trucks, medium and heavy duty trucks and

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equipment. The replacement schedule for light duty trucks is seven years. >> All right. But of course it would we have the option of looking at them and deciding ourselves whether they're still usable or not which is I think the city manager is telling us we're going to do

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I would highly recommend that because age doesn't always dictate whether a vehicle is used or not. I you know some of these vehicles I saw that we auctioned off had very very low mileage in the past. The years were there but they really didn't have much mileage. Um, there's an interesting tidbit that

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code enforcement makes a million dollars more than they cost. >> That's correct. And that's because of the short-term rental registration fee that we implemented this year. >> What uh what percentage just comes from general fines, do you know? >> Oh, a very low amount. General fines

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amount to not quite $30,000 a year. >> Okay. So, that's low, but the great majority of it is now coming from the short-term rental. And they're collecting that. >> That That's correct. >> Close to one between 1.6 1.7 million

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just on the condominium side. >> Okay. And that how that money spent is spent. >> It's covering public safety. So first it covers compliance and second it covers it's helping us cover the law enforcement uh lifeguard contract. >> What percent?

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>> We added on three more law enforcement too. Remember >> what percentage goes to law enforcement? you know, >> um the uh the total public safety budget is about $6 million. $3.4 million of that is the uh sheriff's office and the lifeguards. >> Okay. And what percentage of the excess

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money from code goes to that? >> 100%. >> Okay. So, it's a million or so. >> That's correct. >> Okay. We're not going through department by department tonight. I >> um if you wish to have any

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I I we didn't receive any feedback that there was a wish to >> and but that is a that is a task that as individuals we need to do and so that next time we can bring back individual observations on a departmentto department basis. We used to do that at

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the budget workshops every year takes a long time. I'd rather we do it as individuals and bring any highlights back to you. But that's uh that covers my uh questions and I appreciate you guys the fact that you stayed under budget. How and I I know you discussed at the last meeting how many new

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employees we didn't have many. >> Two new but they are funded by the TDC, >> right? That's almost zero, isn't it? >> That's all for me. Thanks. >> And just may I follow up? Yeah. uh to to your point about individuals going

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through department by department in this new version of the the budget books that we have, that's exactly what we did. So each section is by director and all of the director's departments are in there. So you can see their revenues, the expenses, and the net.

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>> What' [laughter] you say? >> He says lopsided. >> Yeah. Just back to the trucks and the vehicles. What the conversation we've had is that it may be wore out for one department and may be perfect for the next one. And bottom line is if it

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breaks down, you're not far from city hall. So we we'll figure it out. >> Good call. Good call. So that's it for you, Dewey. >> All right. Go ahead, Sandy. I guess the only question I have left is um with regards to what we call number one

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harbor, which is really number one cyber, [laughter] I mean Calhoun, not not not harbor. >> Um if we allowed parking on there, is the seaw wall safe enough to have people on there? Because there's no sense in parking without people being able to access it.

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>> Absolutely not. >> No. No. That's what I'm thinking. Okay. All right. that. So, that's another issue. You got to do one before you can do the other. I guess >> they would have to go together. Definitely. >> Yeah. One or the other. All right. Uh well, thanks a lot for doing all of this

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and um I would like to have my draft copy in paper. >> No problem. I'll I'll print one, put it in your box tomorrow morning. Um just along the same lines, since there's some interest in uh approaching the One Harbor Boulevard, again, we we have funds available in our fund balance. Um

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I've been extremely conservative this year. We don't know what's going to happen no in November. Uh but maybe starting in November once we see how the vote goes, we can raise this issue again. Uh look at our available funding. Uh look into grant opportunities, give you timelines on some different options.

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Would that be acceptable? >> That'd be great. I think so. Um for you, Sandy, you good? >> All right. Uh Chadam, go ahead. >> Thank you. Um I saw in the your presentation uh the $1 million from the

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mobility fees. Is that projected or is that already in place? >> Is it fees already? >> That that's uh cash on hand that's being applied to a a >> you know if the library is charging late fees still. >> If people want to pay late fees, they

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are allowed to pay late fees. However, the general stance is that we prefer to get the books back. >> Yeah. If if they did, it would hurt my family's budget, but it would help the city. So, you may want to >> So, the current >> turn it up as an additional

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>> The current policy is not to uh chase and collect late fees. The current policy is we just accept the books back. But if you want to make a donation or if you want to pay a late fee, we'll accept it. >> Thank you. >> Is that it for you, Tanner? So, are you telling us you're going to return all your books? Is that what's going on here?

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>> I don't think we can find our books. >> He has [laughter] to find them first. if you can. We're miss >> Well, then I'm sure I'm sure we I'm sure we've been charged over [laughter] that way. >> We love our library. >> Thanks, Chadam. All right, with that, uh, Mr. Schmidt, you got something?

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>> Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Thank you all and your staff members for doing it all and all the directors and everybody. Um, I do like the department by department in [clears throat] the book. It's very uh organized and easy to find. So, thank you. Could you please um send over,

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don't need it right now, um this week the breakdown of the $5.9 million capital grant fund. Um the detail of that be great. Thank you. Uh we all talking about vehicles and it all sounds good and I appreciate what

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your stance is. I think the biggest uh every year I always hear, not every year, but often what we hear is is what they see, right? And so um just for what it's worth, right? you know, when you see that the majority like a lot of big

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250s versus smaller vehicles and so just continue to keep just to continue to keep that in mind. Um I think you already are. I know they're needed for some beaches and some some departments, but just to um y'all continue to show

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that you're being responsible and I think it's appreciated. So, thank you. the uh $160,000 arbitrage for 2024. You're expecting to not miss that payment, right? >> I >> or what is >> there too many balls in the air and I

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don't know right now. I won't know until November 7th. So, I thought it's better safe than sorry and I I hope that we meet the milestone and that I don't have to pay that hefty fee to the IRS. On the positive side, we have earned about $765,000 in interest off of that money.

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um we've more than adequately covered our interest payments uh to Trustmark on that loan uh from the interest that we've earned. So that's the positive side, but again uh I'd rather be safe than sorry. >> And what's the milestone that we

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>> uh milestone number seven on November 7th, it has to be 100% expended on projects that were allowable in the loan covenant. >> Like what's your concern with like is there a specific project or >> specifically? Um, I've heard there's another million dollar appropriation uh

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from the state of Florida for the cross town connector. And as you know, uh $4.5 million of what we borrowed was for the cross town connector. So until I know I have the award, which might not come until August or September, then I won't know exactly what I can spend it on or

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if I can reclassify or if I need to spend it on future uh different types of expenses. >> Okay. And if that doesn't get needed or used, what type of item, what type of fund is that that it could then be put towards? >> That's the general fund. So, it would

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either uh council would choose to either put it back into fund balance or could choose to uh spend it on another project like maybe when Harbor Boulevard. >> Will you be sure to highlight that like later in September, October, November? >> Yes, absolutely. In accordance with our charter, I'll do that.

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>> Cool. Um the 2006 2026 items currently being worked on to be finished. Um the equipment shed >> it's underway. We have a quote so far to

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lay a fresh slab. Uh the pole barn is uh it was almost ready for um let's see the the quotes were being gathered. Uh the utility work was being um we have a I believe we have a quote for that as well. So it's in process.

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>> And is this in the 2026 budget you're saying? >> Yes. >> And so then there won't be any money necessary for that in the 27 budget. >> Correct. We should complete >> those numbers everybody feels good about to actually >> Yeah. We we've been talking a lot internally to make sure that uh we'll

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achieve it before the year end. >> Okay. Uh, I don't think this is capital, but I would love to double the fireworks amount. >> Thank you for mentioning that. >> Maybe even tripling it. >> Okay, so yes, uh, the uh,

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let's see, we budgeted >> what it actually if you need to put like an a slash. If you need to put drone, put drone. If you don't need to put drone, don't. But just keep an open mind about that line item. >> Okay. So currently, if I add it all together, between the the security, the

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take permit plus the fireworks, we have uh $53,000 budgeted. >> Security. >> Well, that's about $3,000 to >> What do you need for what do you need security for? Right. To keep people away from the drones. And >> isn't that what uh Walk did Emerald Grant? >> We we pay for that.

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>> Oh, okay. >> Um but um >> but I'll take that into consideration or >> just an idea for myself. I mean, I know that's my opinion. I'll jump on that. >> Uh open open it up to drone possibilities, >> right? And if it's not drone, at least

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there's more money for something. Uh whether it cost more money, who knows? So I would just like to consider that is >> I'll talk to Lisa and uh get a better figure for you. >> Heck yeah. Um

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that's all that I had highlighted. Thank you so much. >> Hang on, Rodney. You had another thing as well. >> Yeah. Uh talking about the vehicles, I think Mr. Dan Cushion still driving a 2016 model truck. Is that right?

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>> What was the question? I I can barely hear you. >> Is Dan Kush's truck a 2016? >> Who's Dan Kushner? >> Danny Cush. >> Danny Kush is drives 1802, which is a 2018. >> So it's an 18. I >> think you're correct. We do have some

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2017 and 2018 uh vehicles on this list for replacement that are 10 to 11 years old. >> Yeah, I just see him driving around. Just notice if that little single cab truck or whatever is getting some age on it. So, >> yeah, probably does. >> Probably does if he's all right with it.

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Drive. >> So, so councelor Braden, just as a side note, uh that used to be a public works vehicle, but parks and w came crying to us that they needed another truck. So, the benevolence was there,

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>> right? >> Gota, Braden, >> I know um we bringing up the more money for fireworks, and I know before I was turned out last time, we'd um the council voted on increasing our budget for Christmas decorations, lights, and

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stuff, and it seemed like that got booted off somewhere somehow. Um, >> I thought I saw Christmas decorations on there. Clarify exactly what that total was because that was >> kind of increase it every year by so much. I forget what it was to they got

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so we didn't have to do it all at one jump because it was pretty pitiful. >> Christmas and fireworks are in the special events >> page in the general fund the draft budget book >> page 42. Mhm.

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under special events um under after the fireworks. >> So both fireworks and Christmas are considered the special events because they're that one chunk every year. So that's on that page and we can always discuss even if we have to take it out of the general appropriation. We want to

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do more at Christmas. We've told people we were trying to make that happen. >> Yes. And um so talking about drones and fireworks, [clears throat] Crystal and I have been talking a little bit about this and council needs to

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really make up their minds kind of quick so that we're not jumping through the hoops at the last minute because really by, you know, November, December, we should know exactly what we're doing. >> You talking about on the fireworks for the July

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>> drones, whatever. have the RFB out and stuff. And Christmas also, I mean, Christmas right now, we just we have our contract ready for this coming Christmas. >> I'll have that put under my name for next Monday's meeting.

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>> It looks like we ain't got hardly nothing for Christmas. Holiday decoration. Uh, that's contest. I don't I don't know why we're spending $1,200 on Christmas parade shirts, but we are um

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$17,000 for holiday decorations, install maintenance, enroll me center. [snorts] >> Are you good, Rodney? >> Yeah, I'm I'm fine. >> All right. Um John, you ready? Um, piggybacking off the Christmas um

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the um the 17,000 that's for Royal Melvin and Community Center. Um does that factor in the uh Holly Jolly events? >> Yes. >> Okay. Yes. So, [clears throat] excuse me. what I have budgeted for Christmas decorations.

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Um, all the Christmas lighting and decorations for the community center, Royal Melvin, which we have professionally done, and then the main street lights that we put on. Well, we put some of them on. Public works does some. And um,

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I think that's it. And the big and of course the Christmas tree that we do at the for the lighting. So that's what that money is for. >> You good with that, John? All right. Do we do you have any further questions? >> I did.

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>> And this may be a detail that we can cover later, but on the cross town connector, as I was waiting to turn left off of airport onto Commons, I counted how many cars can fit in that >> that day. >> It there's six. And when we get the

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cross town connector finished, it'll probably require three or four times that much. Is are we looking at that? >> We're talking about expanding the bay when you turn left off of airport onto Commons. Right now, you can fit six vehicles in there to turn left right there from airport onto Commons. When we

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get the cross town connector, we need that lengthened. Are we looking at that getting that done so that that bay turn is going to be able to accommodate more than six vehicles? >> We certainly can. >> We should. >> We certainly can. Yeah. We're not. We should. And more importantly, we need to extend that light. That timing on that

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light is not realistic. >> So, at airport and Maine, is that where we're talking or airport? >> Airport and Commons. >> Airport and Commons. Okay. >> Yeah. That uh Well, while I counted that would hold six, there were 25 trying to

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turn on airport. And when the cross town is finished, then we're going to have even lar we're going to have probably a light volume trying to go there. and we're going to block the inside lane of Airport Road. So, that's something we should look at if we're not.

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And uh on the Christmas vacations, we need to get power to Harbor Boulevard. I noticed, you know, we're still not getting a lot of warm fuzzy feelings from our friend at part of Power and Light. Unless you know something I haven't heard.

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>> We we we're we have not. Um, it's kind of odd because uh it's kind of they went radio silent on us, but we can certainly continue to >> we need to press. Of course, Bernard is retiring as my understanding. So, >> oh, I haven't heard that. >> Got to get to him.

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>> I don't know if that's true or not. Okay. That might explain it. >> They've already retired. >> Yeah, that that that might not that >> that may not be have anything to do at all. But we have a large service that's at the bottom of our property at our Harbor Tide restaurant that is used for

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the seafood festival. >> It wouldn't be real hard to run that line right back up and run it down the road a certain amount of distances to to uh get some lights on Harbor Boulevard. So if if if they can't figure it out one way, that's another way to figure it out. That service is sitting there and

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is only used >> for a couple of days. [clears throat] We we can we will have that conversation. >> We'll ask it ask them uh how much they want to help us do that. >> Okay. >> So try to press forward on them because I'd like to see some lights on Harbor

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Boulevard that you know that is where everybody that comes to Destin goes. >> That'll cover it. Thanks. >> Yes, sir. >> You done? All right, Sandy, go ahead. >> Didn't Didn't we have some new poles put in around city hall just now on on the road before you hit the uh roundabout?

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>> We did. Do those have electricity at the bottom that they can be decorated for Christmas? Because that's just as important to me as Main Street because that's where >> FPL's policy is not to allow lighted fixtures on street lights that they maintain.

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Banners, absolutely, but lighted fixtures there, it's not in compliance with their policy. We we've been down that road a couple of times. >> Are they maintaining those polls? >> They are now. Yes. >> Okay. Okay. What about the polls in Fort Walton? Do they maintain those because

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every one of them has a light at Christmas? >> They have their polls. >> I I brought that up to uh someone at FPL and >> needless to say, uh the the conversation was very short and uh when I asked about

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98, it was a non-starter. Now, the I just asked Jeff if the new street lights will be up by Christmas, and we don't believe they will be. >> Well, I think we have the right under the franchise agreement to audit the light poles every year. The last time we

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did it, which was quite a few years ago, we made quite a lot of money. >> What can I say? >> I think so. >> May maybe we need to be looking at that. I'm all for that one. Um would you talk about I know we had to extend the um

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contract for Clement Taylor because of the bathroom and I asked the question was were we now changing from the prefabbed bathroom that was supposed to be put there to a fully constructed bathroom and the answer was no. It's

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because the prefab couldn't be built in time so we had to lengthen it. My question now is, can we because we had to lengthen it, can we just tell them not to do it? [laughter] >> I think >> and get a regular bathroom put on there.

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>> Unfortunately, >> I I think it is in process of being constructed under our contract with them. I think it would be hard to unravel that though. >> But aren't they late? They were supposed to have that in a while ago. >> And if they're late, we have a right to

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negotiate. I look at it, okay, >> I don't know about y'all, but having a prefab bathroom stuck on a cement slab is not what I consider hurricane [laughter] worthy for one. And and if they're going to make us build up because of hurricane and flood zone and

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all that kind of stuff, then dog on it, we ought to have a permanent structure out there. >> Um Jeffrey, could you speak to the Treasury's perspective on this for a second? >> I can. um Treasury gave us a notice to proceed and at the time they did that uh we knew the timing of this contract was

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going to be such that it was going to need to be extended. So the contractor has until the end of this calendar year to finish that work. Uh, and right now, uh, they are scheduled to do so, even though the bathrooms are coming in, you know, later than we would like. And, um, in theory, if they'd come in sooner, we

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could get done sooner, but there that's still under the contract, uh, terms that we have in place right now. So, technically, they're not late, and we're not anticipating them being late. And >> and, uh, what if we were to go to Treasury and ask to change from prefab

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to uh, self- constructed? that would require an amendment to the agreement and is a lengthy process to get that done. And like um was said earlier, we already they're already constructing this restroom building. We've seen pictures of it being built.

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So, you know, that we've already pretty much engaged that work and I think we'd be on the hook for it. >> I'm just disappointed, let's put it that way, that the original design had prefab toilets put on it. Uh, I think that's all, but I do think

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we need to work on the some form of lighting for down 98. >> All right. Is that it for you? >> All right. Chadam, did you have another question? >> Yeah. The sheriff's contract has already been negotiated for next year. >> That's correct.

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>> And that's the 3.4. >> And did it was it how much of an increase was it? >> How much of an increase >> from >> um I think it was about a 6% increase. Hold on a second. here in the uh the detailed packet under TINA,

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>> but it wasn't out of line with prior year increases. >> Actually, the uh 26 to 27 is a 5% increase. >> Got it. And do they still come up here and present their contract or no? >> This was presented, [clears throat] excuse me, at the operating budget.

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>> Got it. >> Thank you. >> Is that it for you? Uh Kevin, do you have any questions? >> You good? >> The sheriff's department's not coming to present it, right? Because they they weren't here at the operating budget. >> Yeah, they they were here. Uh Captain

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Captain Fulgren was here and presented it. Was I not here? He was here at the last at the budget workshop number one and uh this worksheet was in the the packet and we talked about it briefly. >> Oh, right. >> I don't think Oh, it was in the packet.

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>> Yes. >> But it wasn't like a presentation from the sheriff's department. >> It was one slide in the presentation we just talked about. >> Just kind of like slipped under there under page 79B. [laughter] Right. Yeah. No, it's fine. I just wanted to make sure I didn't sleep through that one.

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>> All right. With that, um, is there any other questions from the deis? Anyone else up here at this moment? Now, I'll ask if there's any public comments. Is that correct? >> Any public? I don't see any public here. >> Anybody come in on the um internet? Are

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we done? Are >> we done? >> I don't think they did. >> All right. Well, Crystal, Larry, y'all did a fantastic job. Thank you for getting this budget done, getting it to to us. >> Just stay out of their way. Well, you know, we appreciate it and it's why we've got you hired. It's your job to

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help us take care of us in our city. So, thank you very much. >> All right, with that, this meeting is adjourned.