one. This is the Destin City Council meeting, March 2016, 2026, 6 PM. And I'm going to call this city council meeting to order. Uh, our pastor, I believe, had to leave. Um, so Jim, would you want to do the prayer for us?
>> Sorry about that. >> That's okay. >> Heavenly Father, thank you as you allow us to meet tonight and come together. We want to work with you for the betterment of the citizens of Destin,
the families that make a home here, the businesses that are trying to survive here, and our visitors who are here to see our beautiful, slightly chilly destination. Thank you for everything you've done for us and
continue to do. Watch over us tonight. Let us learn to work together. Help us as we seek solutions for the greater good of everyone involved. We ask this in your name. Amen. >> Amen. Thank you for that. Councilwoman Aber with the pledge. >> Please join me with your hand over your
heart. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay, everybody. >> All right. Thank you for the impro
improvisation on that. Um, so right along we'll get into the agenda approval. Is there any substitutions, motions, or changes? Yes, Mr. H. >> Uh, yes, mayor. I would like to uh add a 4B2. Consider the resolution 2026-05
with item 4B on the state park. >> Okay, thank you for that. Just for the record, there are copies of resolution 2605 on the back table for the public. Lots of copies if anyone didn't get one. >> All right. Other than that, I'd like to move 4 D, the city clerk confirmation uh
before 4 A. So, making that let's call it 4 AAA um to change that up so we can keep her time concise. Anything else? >> All right. Seeing none, I'll hear a motion for those changes. I'll make a
motion. >> Second. >> Motion and second. >> Seeing no further discussions, we'll call the vote. >> Everyone's logging in. All right. >> All right. No worries. Uh, Council Mid, if you want to start off. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Neighbor. Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes. >> All right. Four yeses, zero naysay. Eyes have it. So moved. With that, I have no proclamations or recognitions tonight. So, we'll move right into public comments. I'll start on my right, y'all's left. If anyone's here to wish to speak, I just need your name and
address. Yes, sir. Ricky, getting pretty popular. I had a couple people talk to me about you. Got yourself a platform now, man. All right, just hit that button. Name and address. >> Okay. My name is Ricky Lyn Grant Jr.,
175 Main Street, Dest, Florida, 32541, General Delivery, United States Postal Service. And uh I'm pretty popular. That's good. Well, uh I just wanted to come up here because uh I go to the food drive as part of some community
involvement and I hope everything works out with that is the local food hunger on Tuesdays and there's always, you know, little civil discrepancies. But I I I would like to invite you all to come out if you like. It's It's where I found
the tea that I drink and uh the cold brew. But anyway, uh I just hope everything goes well with that. Uh and then I guess I'm hoping St. Andrews finds another church building. They say they're hunting for another building, so maybe you guys can keep your eye open
for that. And uh I'm rolling into the second quarter with with you know all of my 1099 independent contracting, beach chairs, real estate, my wholesale deal. I'm about to try it again. I failed the first two times like
Elon Musk with his rockets. My probate lead failed. I don't know how a probate lead failed. My Google ads failed. I don't know how Google ads failed. So I'm going to dive back in. And I told all my partners, I'm going to put out a bandit sign on only on the weekend, Friday,
Saturday, and Sunday, and just try it again. I hope it doesn't fail cuz I don't want to fail. But anyway, I still do the coverage with the sports. I don't know where we're going to go. It's free. It's uh I guess it's a free agency going
on now. So, I've been following the money. I've been I'm in it for the money. I'm not I love playing football, but these guys making money to play football. So, I recommend we all make some money playing football. So, I'm trying to just, you know, stay involved with the community. I'm here for y'all when you need me. There's no
timer. >> I know. >> What's going on, man? Like, is that how much time do I have left? I can just stay up here all day and talk to y'all. >> Hey, cool. >> Moving on.
>> I got Okay, millions of dollars on the table and 16 acres in Point, Washington. Hopefully. All right. Thank you, Ricky. All right. Anyone else? Senator. Yes, Alan. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, go ahead, mate.
>> Good evening. Thank you, counselors, for uh I was going to say commissioners. No. Uh thank you counselors for for this evening, for the opportunity to speak. My name is Rob Valatin. I reside at 508 Norago Road uh here in Destin on Holiday Isle. I'm a
board of uh while I'm a board member of Holiday Isle, I'm here this evening speaking on my own behalf. Although I believe my comments reflect the desire and position of the Holiday Isle Improvement Association board and its members, we have not had the opportunity to draft a formal position and vote on it. So, I'm speaking on my own behalf.
Craig Coffee, the deputy county administrator for Okaloosa County, wrote a letter dated January 13, 2025 addressed to Secretary Alexis Lambert with the Florida Department of Environmental Protection. In that letter, he wrote he wrote, quote, "From
an environmental perspective, the acquisition of this property will create sustainable swaths of land on both sides of the East Pass Inlet, all within the designated Gulf Islands National Seashore. Additionally, this acquisition would prevent a fully designed and permitted ninestory 79 unit condominium
that is slated for this site. Alternatively, this could be a pristine public beachfront park. I will emphasize the last sentence in that paragraph. Quote, "This could be a pristine public beachfront park." I
concur wholeheartedly with that last sentence. This should be a pristine public beachfront park. I will note that the dictionary defines pristine as something in its original unspoiled condition, fresh, clean, and untouched,
not developed, not commercialized. After having had the opportunity to attend multiple city council and Okaloosa County Commissioner meetings, as well as having met with a few of you one-on-one to discuss the potential plans for the 4 acres the state purchased on Origo Point. I support the city of Dest and taking over the
management of this property. My support is based on your vision of also keeping this property largely untouched or even possibly returning some of it to its original pristine condition while welcoming all residents of Okaloosa County. You did this with the city park
directly adjacent to the property. It only makes sense that these four acres simply be an extension of what the city has already put in place. Why have two properties directly adjacent to each other that have been purchased for the public's benefit with the public's
resources be managed by two different entities. It makes sense from an envi environmental perspective as well as a logistical and management perspective to merge the two properties and have the city of Destin manage them for the public good. Thank you for your time.
Thank you, Rob. Right. Anyone else? All right. There you go, Alan. For the record, Alan Osborne, I agree with most of what he said except for one thing. There ain't no beach there. It's beach front, but it's seaw wall front to
a channel. And there there in lies my thing that it should be investigated because we paid beachfront prices, but I do agree it should remain pristine. Some things I'm I'm really here to speak into the record today of some things that people may not want. I've been gathering
public records and I would tell the council that as a council you should be concerned that people in your your county leadership seem to not be complying with public records laws. I've received some documents and they're incomplete like pictures of people's
screenshots and stuff. Obviously, there were conversations under there that were not provided per the public records law. But I want to get I want to tell you some interesting stuff. And I understand the council was here tonight. Is any of them here? Is anybody from the BCC here?
>> No, we did invite them. >> I know they were invited and I want that on the record too that they're not here, but Mr. Mixon was heavily involved in this because some of the texts come from his phone. I still don't know who directed it or who did this and who the who is on the other end of those phones.
But I will tell you this, before any of you knew that this deal was going on, they'd already had a conversation. And here's here's the task that they already knew that they had to have before you even knew it. That they had to get ready for their that what they needed an address of what they were
going to call this. And they're proposing 50 Ghore Drive. and that they needed a rental agreement samples drawn up. Rental rates, cleanout rates, fuel rates, a business app set up for this area, slip reservation and booking
system, websites, marketing material, and the marina group that they wanted to attach it to. They want also wanted to be a fuel distributor and who and where the deliveries came from. Fuel operations,
rates, policies, and hours of operations, marina store, staffing for operations, retail sales, marina management, marketing, submerged land, land lease systems, a parking system and charges, and wedding locations in the
offse. Now, now this was no accident. It's being hid. And y'all tried y'all's way, so try my way. expose the truth and demand the state give control of this directly to you so you can preserve it
for us. Now, the second part of my proposal, I'm running out of time, is if you can't tear down the marina, there's something else you can do with it and comply with the development order. You could keep one part of it as a small fishing pier that's near the channel, the one that's closest to the west, but
the rest of them, they were permitted to be with residences to be built on Holiday Isle. There's enough condominium owners that would like to buy those slips that if you bought them, if you sold them at auction, you could propose this is that they don't want to waste the money. You
put that money into the fund and then what you do is you contract the core of engineers to rebuild the west jetty so you can protect all of Noriega Point because the biggest threat to Noriega Point in part including the part that you already own. If you were if you were
here 30 or 40 years ago and you drove your skiff down the West Jetty, it would be very high. But over years of pounding, you have very little protection. And so when people tell you you're about to waste the money, a you'll you'll cut down on the traffic. I'm excuse me for asking for a little
more time, but you'll have residents out there that can go from their residence and plus a residential boat lift or slip. You may can even split the slips are so big and have more to auction, but they won't use them as much. They won't create as much traffic. They'll pay tax
on them to the city because they'll own them. and you'll have a way to fund fixing the West Yetti, which is what you desperately need to protect the harbor. If you could put 10 more feet on top of the West Yeti and rock, you would preserve all the millions that we've
already spent building the park to keep it natural. But that's your biggest danger to the park. And you don't and you know, nobody's had a way to fund it. So, if the county and the state don't want to waste the marina, then just demand that they use the marina way the
DO says and anybody can come to a public auction and let the highest bidder and capitalism reign. But you got to live on holiday. You got to have residence just like the de development order says. And you'll fund enough money to make
something good out of a lie. >> Thanks a lot. >> Thank you, Alan. All right. Good evening, mayor, council members. Um, Joe Fitzpatrick, 3879 Indian Trail and the adjacent parcel. Uh, since the last council meeting, I followed up with
several items intend to clarify some of the questions that were raised at the last council meeting. Uh, I remain willing to provide any additional materials or documentation the city may need or wish to review. As I mentioned in my previous meetings, my goal is to
work toward a reasonable and timely resolution regarding the storm water discharge affecting my property. Ironically enough, half of Destin's for uh rainfall is about to occur over the next four months if you look at historically. So that is definitely uh
affecting the negatively affecting the parcel and will continue over the next four months until this situation's resolved. Uh, I appreciate the continued review of the information and the follow-up scheduled this week. I've outlined several potential paths forward
for discussion and I respectfully look forward to the city providing direction on next steps so we can move forward toward a reasonable and timely resolution. Thank you. Thank you. Right. Anyone else? >> Yes, sir. >> Name and address and the floor is yours.
Good evening, Ted Martell, 202 Cyber Avenue. >> Every time I come to these city council meetings, I hear people concerned with the pollution and preserving this and
preserving that. And all through the years, we have impact fees that's been added to doing construction in the harbor, evidently for protecting the harbor. But nobody seems to care about all the
pollution that goes on every time we do fireworks in the pass over there. Uh I just don't get it. I mean, somebody ought to do something about that. Thank you. I appreciate that. All right.
Anyone else? All right. Seeing none, we'll close public comments at this time. Ray, I have a voting enabled on on mine. There we go. Jim, I don't know what we're voting. Ray, can we just cancel
the whatever vote going on here? >> Oh, okay. >> Gotcha. All right. All right. Moving right along. We'll go into the consent agenda. >> I'll make a motion to approve. >> All right. I have a motion to approve. Do I hear a second? >> Second. >> With a second. Any further discussions?
Seeing none, Ray, once you clear that vote, we'll get going. Thank you, sir. And we'll call the vote for consent. There we go. Eyes have it. So, moved for zero. All right. Moving right along. We'll start up with city clerk confirmation.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. We are pleased tonight to introduce Miss Lisa Wallace. I believe she is online with us and I think I understand she's traveling to Destin this evening to begin looking for a place to call home. So, we're
excited about presenting her tonight for your confirmation. Uh we have provided her resume and credentials in your packet. Um we had the the opportunity to spend a good amount of time uh with Lisa this past week. Um actually spent all
day in city hall. Um, I had some, um, extensive interview with her and all went very well. She spent the afternoon with Mr. Ray and I think he will join us in making this recommendation. I will ask him if he has anything he'd like to
add to that recommendation. >> Yes, sir. Mayor and Council, uh, Lisa's resume highlights her strong qualifications and experience. Uh throughout the interview's process, she demonstrated both a clear understanding of the responsibilities of this position
and a genuinely engaging personality. Her references references including two mayors spoke very highly of her character, professionalism, and strong work ethic. They consistently described her as a hardworking, talented,
professional, dedicated and outstanding individual with a great personality. uh and we observe many of these qualities of ourselves during the interviews. So uh based on her resume, her performance during the interviews
and the feedback from her references, we strongly believe she is well qualified for this role. >> And again, she's joining us online. If you have any questions or Miss Lisa, if you have anything you would like to share.
No, I'm just really looking forward to joining the team. Awesome. >> I'll make a motion to approve her as our new city council. I'm city clerk. >> All right, I have a motion. I have a second. Any further discussions? All right, seeing none, we'll call the vote.
All right, congratulations. 4-0. You are officially on. >> We'll see you soon, ladies. >> Be careful. >> Thank you. >> All I got to say is Ray's a pretty funny dude. I'm glad he said that. Yeah, he's already leaving. He's leaving the >> Ray just walked out of the room. Hurry up and get here. >> Awesome. Well, thank you so much.
>> On my way. >> Thank you. >> All right, Larry. >> Moving back to the original 4A, which is regarding the scheduling of the quasi judicial hearing for the Harborwalk Village phase 2. Um, I know Kim's had some conversation with the applicant.
Um, and we've got kind of two options. We can schedule it at our reg next regular council meeting which will be uh the 7th of April or we can schedule a special meeting. Um we anticipate it to
be a lengthy meeting that it may be well suited for a special meeting if that's the appetite of council uh to give it its own evening so that we can concentrate and focus on it. And I defer to Kim if she has anything to add to that. >> Kim, anything? Nope. She can.
>> No. Um, those are the options. And if we do have a special meeting, I I would request that it be in April if possible. That's at the request of the applicant. Um, they want it to be on April 7th, but given our lengthy agenda, we wanted to give council the option to go with that
or have a special meeting. >> All right. Well, I would definitely obviously not a voter here. U, I would definitely encourage us to have a our own special meeting for this. I think something of this magnitude deserves all of our focus, not only during a single agenda item, but a complete meeting. So,
with that, Councilman Bagby. Mayor, I'll make a motion that we have a special meeting on April the 13th commencing at 6:00 p.m. at the city annex. >> All right, I have a motion. Do I hear a second? >> I'll second that. >> All right, any further discussions? All
right, seeing none, we'll call the vote for a special meeting April 13th for Harborwalk Village phase two. All right, eyes have it so moved and I look forward to seeing everyone April 13th on that discussion. Larry, moving right along.
>> Thank you. Next item is 4B. Um, and this is the resolution that's before you regarding uh the new state park. um acquisition out on Holiday Isisle and we've been staff was asked to the city
attorney to draft this resolution to have for your consideration tonight um regarding the potential lease of the property and requesting uh that on behalf of the city that we approach the D and any other agency as
appropriate our legislators perhaps governor's office to um share our strong desire for the city to be the the lease holder in the on that property and work in collaboration with the county and the state to put the
first class um facility there that would accomplish what we've heard tonight and that's keep it in its pristine form and so we look for your guidance Kim >> just to thank you um city manager just to add um we've talked about this before but at this time as You all know the
county does not have a legal interest or lease on the property. There is no approved management plan that the city is aware of. Um the city has expressed its uh interest in the future land use zoning and conservation status of the
property at multiple public meetings as have the residents. Um the residents have also expressed at the meeting tonight during public input but also previously at prior city and county meetings um their support for the city
as uh the manager of the property if the state would be so willing. So at the request of a council member we have added on the the resolution that the city manager just referred to 2605. Um, there are copies of it available in the
front of the room as we mentioned earlier and I know there are many residents here that have gone ahead and gotten a copy. There's also a copy for all of the city council members. Um, and you've had an opportunity to review. So, we're here for any questions, but just for the record, I'll just read the title
of the resolution to give everybody an idea of uh what it says in case anyone's watching online. So this is resolution 2605, a resolution of the city council of the city of Dest, Florida, requesting that the state of Florida authorize the city of Destin to serve as the lei and
local managing entity for the newly acquired state park located within Holiday Isle in the city of Dest, expressing willingness to commit city funding in an amount not to exceed $5 million to maintain the state park as valuable conservation land, providing
for findings of fact, directing transmitt of this resolution to the state of Florida and providing for an effective date. Please let us know if you have questions. >> All right. Thank you. With that, I uh Councilwoman Traml. >> Uh yes, Mayor. I'd like to make the uh
motion to approve this resolution 26-05 and to have staff forward it onto the state. >> I'll second that. >> All right. A motion in a second. Any discussions? Councilman Bagby. >> Thanks, Mayor. And I I think we'll pass
this unanimously. I think we'll even if all seven of us were here, I think it would be unanimous. Uh but this is the only time we have to speak and since when we go to the board of county commissioners, we're we're limited to three minutes and and they are really
quick on that trigger. Okay. No, I I won't take that long. You know, I laid out for the the board of county commissioners. I'm really speaking I want to speak to them and I want to speak to the folks out on holiday out. Uh I posited three options
uh last time before the county commission. They can continue on the path they're on patting us on the head telling us thank you for your input but not really listening to us or the people that elect them and us. uh we can have a
public public partnership where we have the interlocal agreement where we can work out our differences and uh they don't seem inclined to do that or we can have a city-led uh which is the resolution before us. The county's
concerns as they uh relayed them were primarily two things. Number one uh it would take too long besides being control. control is always an issue, but it would take too long. I I would just say to our county commissioner and our county
commissioners, uh if you don't work with us or you don't agree to let us lead this effort, uh either one of the last two options, uh it will be 10 years before this is litigated and nobody will use that. So, if you don't want anybody
out there other than people just kind of walking on the on it as it exists today, but there will be no improvements. There'll be no parking lots, there'll be nothing for 10 years because that's how long we'll be litigating this uh through the court system with the and and I just
don't like the city having to sue the county. But if you leave us no other option, uh we'll do it and I don't want you to think that we won't do it. Uh on the other one is the resources. Yep. They have $5 million. Yep. They control most of the TDC revenue. Yes. We are
very limited. And this really is to the folks at Destin. I want you to understand your city council, you know, the depth at which they're supporting you because what this will do, there's not like $5 million just sitting around, you know, where we go, "Oh, well, we're
going to commit $5 million to go build a parking lot, maybe put up one or two little shade things so, you know, grandmas can or grandpas can sit out there and watch their grandkids." That money does not exist. That money will come from something else. it will come
from either the linear park or, you know, maybe not as many ball fields improved or whatever. Not that that won't happen, but it won't happen before the $5 million commitment on Noriega Point. And you have to
understand that's the cost. It's not like we're up here and we just got unlimited money and we're just going to throw $5 million at Noriega Point. We're going to put that we're going to commit by the resolution that $5 million, but
there will be second and third order effects to that expenditure. And you and you need to understand that. So everybody that says, "Well, I need you to fix this or I need you to, you know, improve this park or do that,
we we'll have to say we'll get to that, but we had to build a parking lot at Noriega Point or we had to meet because the state is smart. They will put a if they make us the lei or lei, however you pronounce that, uh they will put a
reverter clause in there and if we don't keep our word, they will exercise that reverter clause. It'll go back to the state and the state will say we're done with you and now we're going to give it to the county and we will be in a much worse condition and work much worse
place than we are today. So, I just want you to understand this isn't some a decision that people up here take lightly or make lightly. Uh, we are reallocating resources that in some cases we've already planned for and been planning for for years
to make this decision. And so, I I just want to make sure we all understand that. But, you know, one sometimes you just have to do what's right. >> Councilwoman Abear. >> Thank you, Mayor. And uh I agree with uh my fellow council member Jim Bagby. We
um we do take this to heart. We want to take care of our citizens and we want to take care of our beautiful park over there. And like you said, this isn't money we could just come up with. We're going to make a point to to hold up our share. Um but we want to make sure that
we keep this as a destined area that we control it. So hopefully the state agrees with us that that we are the best ones to manage it. We're already handling Nora Park. It's all combined. It's all close. It just makes the best of sense. So hopefully the state will
agree with us and let us just take over. So thank you. >> All right, Councilwoman Tremol, you're good. >> I'm good. >> All right. All right. With that, I was going to just piggyback on that. We we already do 14 acres of management to the west. If if we really are serious about
efficiency of government, then why why split a task into two different sectors of government when one is already doing an a great job? We might be biased. I might be biased, but I believe we're doing a great job with Norgo Point with 14 acres, what's an additional 4 acres
for our staff to handle when we give them the resources to do so. Uh but I mean if you want to talk about government efficiency, the the least efficient thing to do would get two separate governments to be neighbors to do the same exact task of taking out the
trash and monitoring the quality of life that goes around it first and foremost. Let alone the hundreds of residents that we've seen at different workshops that we've seen in emails, calls to me directly. I still haven't found someone in the county who agrees with the
proposal that some of the county commissioners have brought up. Um, we've had even past other mayors in the county uh speak in public comments on our behalf at this point. So, the only ones that think the county's idea is good are the ones that seem to have created it
through the public records request that we've seen. And it's pretty um you know that very first workshop I I pleaded that I thought we could work with them and I really wanted to give everyone the benefit of the doubt of you know time speed government bureaucracy fine now
that it's here let's do it together but to Councilman Bagley's point they've been patting us on the head pretending to care and that doesn't seem to be getting us anywhere and for those reasons I'm very excited to hear my fellow council members uh seem to be in support of this resolution because it's
the absolute right thing to do. Not for us, but not for this generation, but even for the next generation to come. So, that's all I have to say on that. And does anyone else have anything before we vote? >> Seeing none, we'll pull the trigger. >> All right. Eyes have it, so moved. Can't
wait to sign that one. All right, moving along. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. Look forward to moving that resolution on to the state folks and continue that process. >> All right, back to you, Larry.
>> Item 4C is regarding the Joe's Bayou commercial activity plan. At the last council meeting, you asked us to bring forward for um your information um how we intend to manage and enforce our
codes regarding uh perhaps the rogue operations that um use particularly Joe's Bayou, but certainly in other areas as well. But um uh Chris from our our code compliance division uh has done a good job we think of putting together
a comprehensive plan. U these things are nimble. So this is kind of the starting point and we will learn as we move through it. Uh but that plan is in your packet. Um it begins with the installation of the electronic sign board that says uh this commercial
activity is prohibited. So that board is in place and it's lit and we are taking that as their warning. Um by statute we're required to give uh warnings uh when code violations occur before we can
write citations. So this is serving as their warning. >> Counciloman Aber. >> Um Larry, I was talking to the sheriff right before the meeting talking about if we have the word no trespassing it. Sheriff, could you explain is does that need to be on the electric board for
them to see no no commercial activity then no trespassing as well on that board? >> No. If you put no trespassing on that board, you're in essence trespassing everyone from the park. Um what we'd need to do is when y'all go to issue the citation to someone. If you'll just call us at the same time, we'll go down there
and we'll issue a trespass warning to that same person for y'all. And that way if they come back, um they can be arrested for trespassing. And we and we will issue that trespass warning for all city property not just for the park. So if they show up at Marlor um you know
doing the same thing then we >> basically affects their no able to not able to do any launching in any of the parks once they >> they won't be able to enter any city property for a year >> and and so that's step one is they get this warning. What what's a second trespassing
turn into >> if trespass after warning is a second or first degree misdemeanor? So to be an arrest >> under arrest. >> Yes. >> All right. Well, hopefully that'll deter him. >> Sorry, I had it on. That goes to the operator. Whoever's operating the vessel
is the one the trespass warning goes to and would eventually be arrested if they violate that warning. So, it's not the vessel itself. That would keep them from working for me today and Miss Cop tomorrow. uh they're they're prohibited from that and would keep them out of any of our city parks.
>> Were we able to find out about that prime time luxury pontoon boat at Harbor Boulevard launching down there right behind Claude's old property if they're um since they don't have a we know they don't have a BTR. Can we get them? >> Chris was checking into that, so I'll
ask him what he found out. >> Yeah, currently right now um we're following up on that. Hopefully I should have some more information this week on the route we're going to be taking with them. because I have their website that even drops a pin and shows you where they'll pick you up at. Uh
>> yeah, I have a Thank you for that. Yeah, I've done a little research on it today. Be able to get some information. So, we're just doing some follow-up. >> Well, the reason why we really are pushing this is we have a lot of our businesses here that have done everything legally, done everything by the books. They've dealt with this
moratorum and they're staying, you know, by the code, doing everything right. and these illegal operators really make it to where they feel like why should we do it right if the illegal guys can come in and scam away with money and take away our business. So thanks Chris for being on that. >> No, no worries. And there's a few other
operations that we're currently looking at too. So this is we're kind of coming up from all ends so we can get a early start on this and hopefully set the tone. >> Awesome. >> All right, Councilman Schmidt. >> Yes. Thank you. Um, so just to clarify for the city's perspective, we have a
sign that says no commercial activity. So if somebody's doing commercial activity, code enforcement can immediately issue a citation. >> Correct. The sign is the warning. >> So can we update this
plan to say exactly what we will be doing that we will not be giving them verbal warnings? We will not be giving them a second chance that we will immediately issue a citation while calling the sheriff's department and having them come up there. Can we update
that or would y'all like to have it say that? >> I don't see one on you. >> Yeah, I can change the verbiage on the You're talking about the enforcement on the last page. Change the verbage. >> I want to be very clear from the city's standpoint on the policy that you and your employees are going to follow that
there's zero tolerance for this behavior. And so that means immediately citations >> quick. I can Yeah, I can remove the warning aspect of it and update it to citations. Right. >> I mean, obviously keep in the trespass and all the other stuff that
>> and then if somebody's on the water picking up 15 bachelorette girls on the docks, if they pull away and they leave, I get that we can't do anything, but I would assume we would take note if we know that person. >> We can we can certainly follow up with that. Yes.
>> Right. Okay. And I wouldn't say we can't do anything. We do have cameras and that will count as evidence just for anyone that is doing these illegal activities out there that's watching. I want them to know there are cameras and there will be a zero tolerance policy. Um and it's not that we're doing away with the
warning. It's that the sign is warning people. It's huge. You can't miss it. It's lit up and everyone's been warned. >> Correct. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Okay. So just to be clear then after spring break and summer if we're told that there's a bunch of warnings being
given then we probably won't be hearing that I assume because we're going to zero tolerance I assume >> we're on the same page >> for Joe's Bayou. Yes sir. Yes sir. >> Well Joe's Bayou any city any city property that they're illegally operating in. >> Right. I from my understanding the
signage is only at Joe's Bay. You don't have it everywhere else. So if they were at the harbor, I don't have a sign down there giving >> I think we have a no trespassing sign at at the city launch down or the city pro >> city park. >> The transit slips. >> The transient slips.
>> That's probably our next hot spot. >> I think there's a no trespassing sign we put down there last year. >> But >> okay. I just want to make sure we're all on the same page. Thanks. >> Yeah. No, I love it.
>> All right. Any further questions on that one? >> Is that just information? >> Just information. >> All right. Thank you, sir. All right. Back to you. >> All right. We confirmed our city clerk. So, we will move beyond that. So, at the last meeting, we were asked
to uh survey our staff regarding the utilization of the midday bridge and paying the toll um coming from Niceville to Dest. Uh we put that poll out. We had 56 of our staff members responded. Of
that, those 56, 16 said they cross it every workday. And that's so that's two transactions, one to one from um and then we in contact with the
midday bridge authority. um any any individual uh SunPass user that crosses the bridge 32 times a month uh gets an additional $1 discount. So
if you with 40 transactions at uh $40 would typically be 160 bucks, but with a dollar discount for a SunPass and then an additional dollar discount for the 32 or more trips, it ends up costing $80 a month for those that use it every day.
Um so there are some that use it less often than that, some use it just infrequently, but that's the information we gathered. Um, so the most any individual is paying to cross the bridge every day to work is $80 a month. And so
that's the information we have for you. >> Yep. >> Can you remind me how many employees we have in the city? >> We have 115 on payroll. >> 115. >> Yeah. So, what what I would propose is that we
bring back um either policy or whatever you want to do to uh offer an employee transportation program to give any employee the opportunity for up to $40 of reimbursement per month uh with proper form or document. And if
those that do it get it, if those that don't don't. So, I don't know. uh put that into a motion if you could bring back a policy. I don't know what is it. >> Well, that would uh it would be a policy
and that would be some type of compensation for bridge usage or a toll package ever how council would would like to formulate it. >> Well, that would be transportation in general. So, that gives every employee the opportunity. >> Okay. So that way there's no just bridge
people. >> Okay. >> So it's kind of just like an additional employment benefit for employees to offset rising cost of gas to offset rising cost or whatever. We talked about employee bonuses the other day and might
not be a lot but 40 bucks for somebody could help offset something. >> We certainly bring that back at council >> direction. I'll make a second if you're making it a motion to bring it back. Yeah, that's basically turning about to $500 in a transportation per year
>> per employee. >> Yeah, that would take on that. Yeah. All right. I have a motion and second. Any discussion, considerations? It's going to come back with more details. All right. We'll call the vote. >> All right. Eyes have it. So moved.
Well, um 4F is a capital project status report. 4G is the TDC monthly report. 4 H is the operations financial report. Um 4 I are draft minutes for standing
boards and committees. And I know there was a couple of corrections there that Mr. Ray has made. So, thank you for bringing those to our attention. Um only announcement is um we were to bring back the town center
discussion uh tonight uh because we've got a new community development director coming on. We thought it may be uh in our best interest to hold it off for till our next meeting. So we had it scheduled at 5:30 today. So just a simple question. Do you want to and let
me back up. At our next meeting, we have a 5:30 CRA board meeting. So, if we want to schedule uh the e the CRA board meeting at 5, this at 5:30, or just the CRA board meeting at 5:30, and we can
address this during the regular council meeting. Just wanted to get your direction on how you wanted to handle that. >> You guys are the CRA, so >> I like to keep it 5:30 and 6. >> Do the CRA at 5:30. Okay. Councilman Bagby.
>> Yeah, I would probably prefer we do the CRA first because I don't think it'll last 30 minutes and then we could go directly into the uh update on town center, >> particularly since we're
now committing to $5 million elsewhere. Uh, so I I would probably say we would probably need to start at 5 or 5:15 and then do the CRA first and then go into the town center. That way if it
bleeds over a little bit, uh, I just want to make sure we understand what we're trying to achieve on the town center. Basically, it's just a five minute. Here's what the plan is down by the harbor. Here's what the plan is here that we've already been briefed on. Just
to refresh people's memories, I think that was the the issue from before. Was I am I mistaken on that? >> That's correct. Just to make sure we're clear and then give some direction of which path we would like to follow. >> What you could do since it's probably
going to be a short CRA meeting is you can make the CRA at 5:30. we can schedule this SRS or this town center discussion um for 5:35 or as soon thereafter as may be heard. That way if the CRA goes late, we can start it whenever, but we don't have to wait for
six o'clock. >> Right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm fine. And I just I think we're going to get into a long discussion at some point on what we're going to do where because that that's really the next other than Noriega Point, that's our next big
development project as a city. >> Uh Councilwoman Tramlin, >> I just had a question for Mr. Bagby. Did we adopt that? >> Did we adopt that plan? I know we did the plan and we've done a dozen other plans that we've never adopted. So have we adopted this one? No, that that's
this that's the point where we are is we need to adopt one or the other or variation thereof. The the problem is is we got a great proposal, you know, to do down on the harbor and it's got all these neat bells and whistles and we've
got a great big plan here. We had workshops. We had people putting stickies on. I mean, we've >> we've >> received both plans, but we have not adopted either one. >> Okay? >> And so, we need to figure out and and
tell folks this is where your civic center is going to be or it's going to be in two places or it's going to be there. But we need to because really for budgeting purposes, that's where it goes. >> Well, I agree with you, but do you think
we can do that in 30 minutes? >> Probably not. I was going to say we might decide on one thing and that's >> I think we have seven different opinions on and I've changed my opinion from where I was a year ago. Uh so after
talking with folks so it'll be and maybe we have end up having another special meeting. I hope not but we we need to it's it's such a big decision. I I would support a special meeting. >> I agree with you. I agree with you. All right. Thank you. >> All right. with that.
Was that more of a formal or is that more of a directional? >> Uh, we probably need a vote so that we know how to advertise appropriately. >> All right. So, >> 535. >> Correct. All right. >> 5:30. >> All right. Council. >> All right. Do I hear a second? Do we
have a second? >> Second. >> All right. >> All right. Ray, you got that? 5:30 5:35 or therefore after. All right. I'll call the vote. It's the regular council. >> So, the regular city council meeting is going to start at 5:35.
>> No, no, no. >> Well, we might want to clarify because that's what it sounds like you're want to do. >> Or you want to hold a special meeting at 5:35. >> Well, if you're going to take action, it just as well let it be the regular meeting start. Have that be the first agenda item and if we take action, we'll be in we'll be in a notice meeting. >> I imagine we'll take action, right?
>> Start. >> Thank you guys for being here. >> So, this city council meeting will be scheduled to start at 5:35, >> correct? Yes, >> it will be CRA at 5:30, regular city council meeting at 5:35 or as soon thereafter as may reasonably be heard.
>> Okay. >> All right. Let's call the vote on that. >> All right. I just have it so moved. >> All right. >> That's all we have to Dr. Young. >> Thank you. Good evening. The LAZ parking enforcement officer is adjusting um the
service the regular schedule to provide enforcement in the harbor district for tomorrow, St. Patty's Day, and the LAZ officer will be working from noon until 8:00 p.m. tomorrow. The city's annual Easter egg hunt will be on Saturday,
April 4th at 9:00 a.m. at Morgan Sports Center. Everyone is welcome and the actual hunt is for age 12 and under. and we're hosting our first vertical oyster garden event on Saturday, April 18th from 1 to 2:00 p.m. We're partnering with CBA, Keep Okaloosa Beautiful, and
Okaloosa County America 250. And it's a nice opportunity for um anyone interested in getting to have an educational training on vertical oyster gardens. And we'll also have our very own John Stevens who will be down there to showcase what the the the vertical
oyster garden has looked like in the last year growing. So it provides a nice nice opportunity for that. And then we would like to ask your thoughts on April 28th for a Norgo ribbon cutting. We're hoping to have it at 10:00 a.m. So barring any problems with that date,
we'll do that then. >> What was the ribbon cutting? April 28th at 10 a.m. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Tuesday at 10 a.m. Tuesday. >> Perfect. All right. Public hearings, Miss Cop.
>> Thank you, mayor. First ordinance is number 2612 LC, an ordinance of the city of Dest, Florida, amending the land development code to define indoor sports recreation establishments. Amending table 7-2, table of allowable uses to
allow indoor sports recreation establishments as a permitted use in the industrial zoning district. Amending article 8 transportation table 8-6 number of vehicle and bicycle parking spaces required. Modifying parking requirements for indoor sports
recreation establishments. providing for authority, providing for findings of fact, providing for incorporation into the land development code, providing for conflicting provisions, providing for severability, and providing for an effective date. This is second reading, and there are no changes since first reading. >> All right. Thank you for that. Seeing
that this is a public hearing at this time, if anyone wishes to speak on this specific item, this is your time to do so. All right. Seeing none, we'll close the public comments for ordinance 2612LC. And I am looking for a motion.
Mr. Mayor, I move to adopt proposed ordinance 2612LC on second reading. >> All right, I have a motion to hear a second. I have a second. All right, seeing no further discussions, we'll call the vote. All right, eyes have it so moved. Miss Cop.
>> Thank you, mayor. The next two ordinances, 2614 LC and 2615 PC, both involve 446 Calhoun Avenue, and it involves a reasonzoning and a future land use map amendment. Would the council be okay with my reading these
together? Um, since they are of the same subject matter, >> I would appreciate it. >> That's fine with me. >> All right, everyone. Yeah. >> So, for the public, I will read both titles and then you'll all have the opportunity to speak on one or both. Ordinance number 2614LC, an ordinance of the city of Dustin,
Florida, amending the official zoning map as referenced in the land development code section 71201 A2 zoning maps to include a change in the zoning designation of real property generally located at 446 Calhoun Avenue as more particularly described in exhibit A,
consisting of approximately 78 acres from Bay Estates BE to recreation RECC. Providing for authority, providing for findings of fact, providing for jurisdiction, providing for a zoning map amendment, providing for incorporation into the land development code, providing for conflicting provisions,
providing for severability, and providing for an effective date. This is Okaloosa County parcel ID number 002S22031 OD 038C. Ordinance number 26:15PC, an ordinance of the city of Dest,
Florida, amending the comprehensive plan, providing for authority, providing for findings of fact, providing for the adoption of a small-cale amendment to the comprehensive plan, future land use map to include a change in future land use designation of real property, generally located at 446 Calhoun Avenue,
as more particularly described in exhibit A, consisting of approximately 78 acres from Bay Estates BE to recreation REC, providing for incorporation into the comprehensive plan providing ing for conflicting provisions, providing for severability, and providing for an effective date,
same parcel ID number. This is first reading for both ordinances. >> All right. Thank you for all that. With that, if anyone wishes to speak on either one of those ordinances, this is your time to do so during public hearing comments. Yep. >> Name and address. Don Dallas 442
Snapper. Uh that property I looked it up. It's got about 1100 foot house on it. Is that correct? >> Believe so. >> Yeah. Uh.7 acres. Correct. >> It's approximately 78 acres. Yes. >> Okay. Cool.
>> What are you going to do with that when the city buys it? What are you going to make a parking lot of or what what's what's the plan? I I never got that off the internet. All I got was they're they're buying land for $400 and something thousand dollars in the house. >> Kevin, you want to
make this public comment? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Comment or is it a question? Do >> you want to answer? >> Yeah. I asked what they're going to do with it. >> Would you like me to answer? >> Yeah. Yeah. Just since you're >> Oh, I'm just asking. That's all. >> Well, city has to buy it first. >> I understand. >> They're reszoning it.
>> Yes, sir. And after that, it's whatever the council's will is, which there's discussion about the parking lot >> to help support the city's property adjacent to it. >> Okay. >> But that hasn't been finalized until it's actually decided upon up here. I
guess >> that was just a question. I just got, >> you know, I didn't know what they were going to planning on doing with it. That's all. Yeah, you know. But thank you. Y >> anyone else? >> All right. See now we'll close the public comments for B and C and I'll
entertain a motion for the combined ordinance. >> How would you like them on separate >> approve them separately? >> That's what I was just going to ask. If you could start with uh the first ordinance 2614 LC. >> All right. Thank you. So I'll take a
motion on 2614 LC. Miss uh Councilwoman Traml. Uh, I'll make the motion that we um accept ordinance 26-14-LC uh amending the official zoning map with the land development code and come back for second reading.
>> All right. Second. >> All right. I have a motion and a second. Seeing no further discussion, we'll call the vote for ordinance 2614 LC. All right. I have it so moved 40. All right. Okay. >> The next motion will be with regard to
2615 PC. >> Thank you, >> Mr. Mayor. I'll move to approve proposed ordinance 2615 PC on first reading. >> Second. >> All right. I have a motion and a second. Seeing no further discussions, we'll call the vote. >> All right. Eyes have it. So moved for
zero. All right, moving along. Councilwoman Traml, anything tonight? >> Uh, I just wanted to thank um Lisa for all of her hard work on the uh captain's hall of fame. I attended that and it was um basically um two of my husband's
ancestors. So I really appreciate all the work that went into that and they did a class act this time. Thank you. >> Awesome. Thank you for that. Council member Bagby, >> just two things just to answer Mr. Dallas's question. If uh when you go to
the agenda online, uh on the staff report, >> uh right the paragraph right under paragraph 3, it talks about the existing residential structure located on the property is anticipated to be demolished, but we haven't made a decision on that. That would be a
separate decision. And I just asked uh the staff, I had a conversation with Larry today. We need to get the focus back on the LDC chapter update. We've kind of been uh distracted by some shiny objects. Nora Point and some other things that we've been doing and we need
to get the staff back in focus and get this updated u so that everybody knows because if you notice there were four docks that were in the consent agenda. That's probably not by happen stance. That's probably because they know we're
going to change that part of the uh code and >> get it in. >> We Let's go ahead and get it in cuz they It could get worse. It could get better, you know, but it could get worse. So, that's uh we'll we'll see those until we get our rules set and get settled. Thank
you, Mayor. >> All right. Thank you for that, Councilwoman Abear. >> Thank you, Mayor. I too was at the um fisherman's hall of fame and I thought Lisa had an absolutely wonderful job. you had a lot of support, but you also had a lot of folks, a lot of things that you did. And I know that you had a lot
going on, Lisa. And a lot of times people don't know that you're juggling 10 balls in in the air. So, it was a a wonderful event. I was glad I was able to make it. And it was very special. You could see the tears. I mean, a couple of them couldn't even talk. They were so choked up. So, well done. Well done. And
uh other than that, that's it, Mayor. Thanks. Great, >> Mr. Schmidt. Councilman Schmidt. >> Yeah. To Mr. Bagby's point, the dock situation is going to get better because the specific directive was to make the process better than it is, right? Okay.
And that's not part of the rewrite, right? >> Well, it's going to skip an L a Harbor Waterway board and a city council meeting. That's should get better. >> Uh that ordinance is on LPA's agenda. >> That's a separate >> That's Thursday. >> Completely separate. Thank you. Yeah.
>> Um, oh man, just lost my train of thought. Yeah. I hope we have the opportunity to fund up to $5 million on a city park. >> Yep. >> Um, and Mr. Bagby is not wrong with some of the things that he's saying, but I will
say that there's multiple multiple millions of dollars that have not been touched for many years for any particular projects because of one reason or another. So, the money is there and uh it'd be awesome to be able
to utilize the money that's just sitting there in a fund that should be used, but this council has yet to do that I hope we will be using soon. Um, so I don't think that will deter us from making our parks better or uh doing other things
that you all want to do because we should be able to do all of it with the taxpayers money that we get as well as the grants that we get as well as the county TDC funding that we get and everything else. So, uh, I I'm excited for the opportunity and I hope the state will grant it to us. Thank you.
>> All right. Thank you for that. Um, I almost brought it up when we were talking Joe's Bayou, but it kind of goes into left field pretty quickly, so I waited from my little spot here. I just wanted to give you guys an update from the last fireside chat that I hosted. Uh, well, it's not technically a city
sanctioned event. I consider it a city sanctioned event. I talk very uh specifically and try to represent not individuality, but just what we have voted on. And if we haven't, I let them know about a process. And I say all that with a caveat to say there was a couple things that came up that I just kind of
wanted to bring to everyone's attention. This last one was uh just the working harbor. Anything and everything that uh someone can make a living on the harbor, whether it's our fishing fleet and the heritage or the newest, latest and greatest pontoon that's out there. Um so with that, I think we're taking care of
one of them, which was the camera coverage and the code. And so I wanted to thank code again for going out there last week and getting hands-on. Um the camera coverage, a lot of them were even willing to donate their docks on private land if we needed more cameras to
integrate. They were all about it. Uh even some that are completely against flock cameras are very much for uh fish cameras. I I don't know what the opposite of flock would be for amphibious cameras uh to catch the rogue vessels. Uh something that came up and
Ray did a great job of sending me a 50minute document. So, thank you for that. Uh, one of it being they were there was issues or concerns or hearsay that I was trying to get to the root bottom of of the delivery vessel fee. Uh, several business owners stated that the liy vessel funds were originally
communicated, maybe not voted on, but communicated that those fees would go into supporting and enforcing the rules of the water and addressing some of the rogue operators. I'm sure that's happening, but that was just something that they brought up. And that's kind of what brought us up into the cameras of,
well, how much are they making? We're putting in about uh anywhere from 40 to 50,000 a year in uh delivery vessel fees. And so with that, if we need more money in the future for cameras, I think that would be a great win-win situation to take those fees from our delivery
vessels and put them back into code compliance. uh the harbor dredging came up and then I was able to tell them that you guys have already done that and it was it was done and it was the day that it got done. So that that looked really good. Um and we passed out the dredging map cuz uh even the pirate boat was
like, "Well, does that mean we can go all the way through the harbor?" No, not necessarily. We we did the channel up into that map. So, thank you, Michael. Uh the last one was the East Pass dredging. I know that's now outside of our scope. Um, but several the fishing captains here, especially the larger uh
vessels, were saying that there's some places in East Pass that are as shallow as 4 to 5 ft um on the wings of the channel markers. And so, Dr. T has already helped me kind of readress that with council uh the Congressman Patronis' office. Uh you know, I think
uh with the department still closed furoughed, uh they don't they can't get anything going there even to try to start. Um but in general just thank you. I just want to let everyone know on this council that what you guys have done the past couple years have definitely resonated at least with the working
harbor. Um they were very thankful for many things and outside of just um code and delivery of vessel fees. That was really the only thing they came up with. I thought I had to come with a shield cuz I kind of really told them lay it on me and I'll I'll bring it back to you
guys. But honestly a lot of it was compliments. The other one was just supporting Crab Island. Uh, and I, you know, told him, you know, as much as we can support, I think we do, but the reality is it's not in our jurisdiction. So, what do we do outside of just trying to stop delivery vessels? Um, so, well,
I personally support Crab Island. I think the county could do a better job of taking what they're taking for fees and probably pouring that back in there, but that's outside our jurisdiction. We got plenty of battles to fight on our own. Um, and so that was kind of my wrap-up of the uh fireside chat. um
would love to eventually invite one of you guys in and start doing these as like a one-on-one thing. And I know it's f what all you got to do is public notice and you got to, you know, have a court reporter there or, you know, at the at the maximum court reporter, but I think >> we'll talk to our new city clerk.
>> All I got Yeah, I I'm just throwing it out there, but I just believe more communication's better. And if not, no biggie. But I would just love to have some of you guys there uh to get loved on slash to hear a different perspective than probably the same 20 people that you you even mentioned last meeting. You
know, go to the same dinners. You kind of hear the same perspective over and over again. So, this one was actually a wide range of people and I didn't know half the crowd. Normally, I know them. Uh but this was a different group of people. So, it was interesting hearing a different perspective uh than probably
our regular emailer folks that come through our channels. So >> that's all I got. Yeah, Councilwoman Neighbor, >> just so you know that I did have a few phone calls after that fireside chat and um they said your mayor gave y'all the credit. He said, "I don't do the voting. I just take what they give me and make
it happen." And you know, so I I appreciate and I'm sure the rest of us appreciate that you portray that that we are a team up here. We work together and proudly so. So thank you for representing. >> Of course. Yeah. You guys Yep. Go ahead. you want to have a real fun egg hunt
once you go down the rabbit hole of finding out where the funds are going for the for the county to manage that part where I was going collecting. >> Um >> yeah, >> it'd be really interesting to see what they're using those funds for besides just the paid in the bill of the
sheriff's department on the boats. M. >> So, I haven't seen any changes out there that they collect a lot of money. >> Yeah. For the little bit that for the park that they don't even own, but that they manage. Yeah. >> So, it' be interesting. I I was already
>> I haven't put out that public record request yet, but that's the next thing cuz at the end of the day, >> the only uh the only negative thing I hear about Crab Island other than old videos that resurface from time to time of some takeovers, which check the postage stamp before you send it to me, it was like 2023.
Anyways, I would just say we definitely we probably desperately need bathrooms out there. a lot of the newer boats you you're renting the pontoon or the facility that has restrooms, but that always seems to be our black eye out there is uh no public restrooms for this area that congregates so many. And so I
would love to see the county put some of their dollars that they're collecting from business owners, local business owners, and put it back into the area that's serving the small business community and employing so many and creating so much tourism that doesn't get a dime for tourism. Yet, it's
probably one of our top three attractions. >> Did you know that TDC, I don't think, even advertises or publicly supports island? Zero. >> They actually do not >> support it. Yes. >> It's interesting. >> Yes. Love it. All right. Well, with that, we can go all day, but with that, we'll we'll stop right there. All right,
Miss Miss Cop. >> Too early. >> I I know. I know. It's too early for Kevin. He can go all night now. Um, no. On the on the fireside chats, I just want the public to know that it's not disinterest of the council when they don't attend. It's the sunshine law. They're not legally allowed to attend
unless there's a city clerk and an advertisement. So, minutes or what is both? What is uh well, you can have somebody else take minutes, but you also have to advertise it and you need to comply with state law. So, with that being said, it would be a lot more appropriate if you had a fireside chat
where they had interest to invite them to the council meeting and we can put it on the agenda, whatever item they're interested in. This is just a suggestion. And then the whole council would be there. So, that might be a way to blend your fireside chat with the legality. >> You got to get out there to the people. Why invite them in? You got to get out
there to the people. Number two is on resolution 20265. I will also send a count a copy of that to the county obviously as well as to all the state officials. And then um my last item uh the authorization to
foreclose the code compliance lean at 2011 Main Street. This property has been in violation of city codes for accumulation of excessive trash and debris for a few years. Um, there has been a lean outstanding in the amount.
Well, it was at $250 a day. It's been about 880 days. So, now it's at $220,000. Uh, the property is vacant. It's not a homestead. It's right on Main Street. So, I am requesting authoriz authorization from the council to go ahead and commence a foreclosure action.
>> I have made multiple attempts to contact the property owner. I'll make that motion. >> Second. >> All right. I have a motion and a second. Any further discussions? All right, seeing none, we'll call the vote. >> All right, no worries. >> Oh, no. >> What? Uh >> oh.
>> All right, Miss Traml, roll call. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> All right. Thank you guys for that. That parcel's been a menace, and I'm very excited to see where we can go with this. Thank you. >> All right. Public comments. Last bite at the apple. Anyone want to comment on the
good or bad job we've done >> or you can go on left field >> or good bad job left field is yours 3 minutes >> button something I'd like the board to think about is you're changing these codes and uh I'd like you to be uh real careful about how you use AI and code
enforcement because when Google Earth came out everybody thought that was funny until they saw their kids on Google Earth and the pictures and they started flying drones because here's what's going to happen. You're going to have because the intent of code is the same thing as a fence. It's to create
good neighbors. So, you're going to have two good neighbors living next to each other and some drone or some programs going to take satellite shots and say, "Look, there's a violation." And you're going to have two human beings who don't think there is a violation living next
to each other. and you're going to create disharmony through AI. So, there needs to be a human effect there. A lot of you going to have kids and grandkids and you what you're going to end up doing is these companies are going to have access to these public
records you're creating. And when people want to hunt you and you better look at what's going on in the world if you think that's funny, because it ain't, they want to profile you as a target, maybe as a victim of fraud or something. and they're going to know everything
about you at some point. And there just got to be some limits that we recognize in the community of how we use AI. Uh this is not just my own, but some people ask me in this community to approach the board and say this because I've dealt with this kind of technology. So I would
just say it's a great thing, but it but it sews a gun and it depends on how you use it. And so I would take great moderation is how I used AI or drones or anything like that to enforce code. I
especially if there's not been a complaint. So I would be very careful. Like I said, a gun is a great tool. So is an automobile, but not with a drunk driver or >> fixed cameras. >> Yeah. >> Fix fix no drone, no AI, just fix cameras.
>> Are there at Joe's Bayou? Not >> no. I'm just saying as we go into that and I'm not bringing up the Joe's Bayou specific, but there are cities that are implementing code enforcement through AI >> and I and and and there are people here. So, if that's not your intent,
communicate because at least 10 people have contacted me in the community. >> Dumb camera, smart people. >> Okay, I'm good with that. Thank you so much. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. Anyone else? >> All right. Thank you guys so much. You
probably saw one of the best council meetings. It's what? 7:11. All right, let's get out of here.