and Dan. >> It's fun. >> Good job. >> Glad you made it. All right, I got 5:30. I say we uh call this meeting to order. Um well, I know Jen's got roll call and I know we have quorum, so we'll keep moving. Uh I would uh
entertain a motion to approve the minutes of the regular meeting held on October 23rd, 2025. >> So moved. >> Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any discussion on that motion? Any corrections or anything that need to be made? Hearing none. All those in
favor say I. >> Oppose. Same sign. Motion carries. All right. We'll go ahead go ahead and call to order a public hearing to give consideration to a conditional use permit to allow a car wash in a B3 district at 1365, 1369, and 1373 Winter
Road. Larry, >> yes. This is a request for Weber Family Ford to put in a car wash on their location just north of their existing location. Actually, this is uh they're requesting a
conditional use permit because our ordinance allows car washes in the B3 district as a conditional use. I think in the future you should look at possibly amending the zoning ordinance to just allow car washes in the B3 district. I think the conditional use
permit is a hold over from when car washes were loud, noisy contraptions that aggravated neighborhoods and that's no longer the case. So, I think we need to take a look at that at some point. But tonight, we're just here to uh grant
this conditional use permit or consider this conditional use permit. The ordinance allows them. There are 14 conditions listed for this particular conditional use and staff is recommending approval subject to those 14 conditions
and if you want to I'll read through all of the conditions. Anyone like us to read through the conditions or are you comfortable reading them in your packets? >> I'm not hearing anybody call for us to read them. So I guess at this point I'd open it up to public comment if either of you would like to address the uh
commission. questions. >> All right. So, no comments. We'll close the public hearing and we'll open it up for discussion and maybe a motion from the uh commission. >> I just have a question to clarify.
So, this is a building that is quickly service and a small car wash on the one side. building >> quick lane is still a different >> Is that a car wash that's just for use
with your >> No, we're going to make this customer facing our own settings. >> Thank you. >> Any other questions? >> We make a motion to approve the
conditional use permit. the um recommendations for >> the conditions. >> Okay. >> With the 14 conditions >> and using the city's findings. >> Using the city's findings. >> Okay. So, we have a motion on the table. Is there a second?
>> I'll second. >> All right. We have a motion and a second to approve the conditional use permit following the city's recommendation and findings with the stated 13 conditions. Any further discussion on the motion? >> All those in favor say I. >> Oppos? same sign. Motion carries. All
right, there you go. So, from here we'll go to the uh what date does the >> community development committee on the 8th and city council on the 9th. >> There you go. 5:00 on the 8th in that room right back there and 5:00 on the 9th
right back here in this chamber. The city will make the city council will make the final decision, but we'll carry the recommendation to the CDC. All right. Thank you both for being here. I have an announcement to make before
this meeting is over. The city has chosen to eliminate the community development director position and replace it with two new positions, an economic development director and a planning director. So, since the city has eliminated the
community development director position, I am forced to retire at the end of 35 years after serving my hometown for 35 years. As this may be our last planning commission meeting this year, I wanted to let you know about my retirement. And I would also like to thank all of you
for your service to the city as planning commissioners. And it has been my pleasure these 35 years to work with people like you who have an interest and concern for the future of our community. So, thank you all. >> Thank you, Larry.
>> You'll be missed. >> All right. Um, anything else from the commission? Do we want to put on a future agenda to look at the removal of the conditional use permit? Is that something that we want to stick on the agenda for the future to consider?
>> I guess would be would it ever be where we wouldn't want car wash to go into a B3? I mean, the stuff that I read as far as the clarification stuff kind of had to do with it being closer to residential
districts and the um screening and that kind of stuff. So, typically B3s are a little farther from residential areas. >> Not not always. I mean, there's always got to be some sort of transition between those two. So there's going to
be areas that where they abut residential areas, but we do have a screening ordinance that deals with that now. So I think it would be fine to put it in as a permitted use rather than a conditional use.
>> So the conditional use was more just to review more specific things as far as doing the screening. And now that we have the screening as part of that process, >> that's part of it. That is part of the reason why you would be willing to do that. The other is that car washes
aren't what they used to be anymore either. So, they're not as odious as they used to be. >> Do we have a map of town that has like the zones? >> Yeah, there's a zoning map on the city's web page. >> I just couldn't think of where it was
at. If you Google deter likes GIS, you'll you'll get the link and go to the public link and you can go to planning and zoning in the check box in there and you can turn on the zones and see where they're all at. >> I usually recommend you turn off the flood layer. It'll be a lot easier to look at. >> I feel like I've seen one, but then I
just >> Yeah, you can scroll around inside of there and really really dig in. >> We should probably make one more question just as a education point for myself. car. What are any other car or
any other zoning areas that car washes are allowed in? Or is it just the B3? >> Just the B3. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, I'm hearing a general consensus that we should take a look at this. Um, Jen, can you put that on a future agenda for well, probably Larry's
successor, but we'll have to discuss. If you could throw that on there. I have one more item if you could put on for the future, too. I'd like to restart some training in January just incorporated on the agenda here. be I think we should maybe kick off with quasi judicial and we can stick that on Dylan to be prepared. Um and that way we
can always choose to skip a training but that way we we can kind of continue that process of when we have a short meeting taking a few minutes to just walk through uh kind of a a recurring training. Ideally what I'd like is for us to build out a uh kind of a schedule or a or at least a an order of how we're
going to walk through it. What are the different topics? But I'd like to restart that in January. Unless someone else has something else, I'd say we start with quasi judicial. A refresh on that. >> Okay, great. Anything else from any of the commissioners? >> You indicated that there probably will
not be in December or is that something? >> We currently do not have any items for the December meeting. December is always difficult to schedule a meeting anyway. So, we're always hopeful that there won't be any items to deal with.
Okay. Well, I guess we'll find out couple of short weeks. >> If Yeah, if Jenny's mail, that's right. That's right. All right. Nothing else, Larry. >> All right, then. Uh, we'll call this meeting adjourned. And we did it in
under 10 minutes. Good job, everyone.