okay all right I have 5:30 on the clock in the back which will treat as the official time even though it's a little a little slow and uh we'll go ahead and uh call this meeting of the Planning Commission March 27th to order all right with that uh I believe
we have Quorum Jen you have everything you need okay for the minutes last month uh I would be looking for a motion to approve the minutes of the regular meeting held on February 27th even though it says March February 27th 2025 I'll make motion to approve as
presented all right we have a motion in a second you can uh Chris or Kelsey you can go ahead and pick are there any uh any comments any discussion hearing none all those in favor signify by saying I I oppose same
sign motion carries all right we have five public hearings on the agenda tonight and uh we'll just go ahead and work through them uh right from the top um I'll make a a note that uh this will these items will be
heard here tonight uh and then we will vote on it and that will be a recommendation that will be forwarded to the Community Development Committee which will meet at 5:00 pm on Monday April 7th in the back room in the corner over there and uh so
that's where you'll hear it next they will review that and then bring that recommendation to the city council meeting which will be on at 5:00 p.m. on April 8th that's Tuesday here in right here in these Chambers uh and that'll be for all of the items we review tonight
all right with that I'll go ahead and uh excuse me I swallowed half my snack down my lungs a little while ago I apologize um I'll go ahead and suspend this meeting and call to order a public hearing to give consideration to rezoning property
from IL excuse me i1 light industrial district to I2 heavy industrial district at 983 Richwood road for the Detro Lake Development Authority Larry will you bring us up to speed yes this is a request by the Detroit Lakes development
authority to rezone the former Cleveland farm from i1 light industrial to I2 heavy industrial and the purpose for changing the zoning is so that they can uh issue a lease to mine the gravel off
of that site to bring it down to a lower level and we are expecting to issue requests for proposals for that and the project will take multiple years to accomplish because there's quite a bit of material on that site the Development
Authority would like to do this for two reasons it's better to uh have someone mine the material out of there rather than pay to have it hauled away it seems that that would be more prudent and they also feel like this resource should be
better used in road construction and so forth rather than just putting bus businesses on top of it and having it lost forever so uh the other issue is what's going to happen to the property when
it's done and the intent is to rezone it again back to i1 light industrial because of its location um we would like to make that binding but we can't bind future councils so we have to just list it as
an intent to rezone it to i1 because a future Council can't be bound in that way okay thank you Larry all right at this time I'll go ahead and take uh any public comments on this if you have something you wouldd like to say to the commission please come to the podium
state your name and address and uh we'd love to hear what you have to say uh good afternoon I'm Dan holsgrove um I live at 16004 Legion Road in Detroit Lake here okay and I have a small development just south of this on
the other side of the street uh Terry Street and the concern I had was that uh in the description of R2 it says that R2 is not compatible with residential neighborhoods and we have a new uh neighborhood going in over there and and
I'm surrounded by a existing neighborhoods on on Broadway and on Richwood um and as Lar brought up you know if it if it is i1 that's fine that's what it is um but when it
goes to uh industrial 2 and the chance that it could turn into a well anything uh concrete plant could go in there and run 247 or any kind of heavy machinery you know that would be
um unacceptable uh and since you can't bind the future uh board to to revert this back to i1 I would stand opposed to having it zoned
I2 thank you thank you Dan appreciate your comments all right would any else like to address the commission on this issue yeah Larry I had a hard time first of all Larry lighthiser 1210 richfood Road hello everybody I had a hard time
hearing you um it's i1 you want to reone it as I2 but then revert back yes that's correct why and when would you revert back are you taking the gravel out and once the once the gravel has been
removed our intent would be to rezone it Larry can you speak directly into that mic because it you aren't picking up at all the intent would be to revert it back to i1 light industrial at the the time that we would plat the property
okay into industrial lots that was that was one of my assumptions if we do that if you do that you them they I'd like to see that in writing because once it's rezoned to
I2 it's not as easy to revert back at this point it's just verbal something I'd like to see in writing we can put that in writing but all it would be is our intent would be to do that we can't bind a future
Council into that type of right so once you voted in as I2 and it's established as I2 then we'd have to start this whole process over to change it back that is correct I
understand thank you for clarifying that yep um I'd imagine if your home isn't located in this situation you really wouldn't care what the zoning is or what's involved but you definitely would if it
was in your front or backyard um here's some breakdowns on the difference between light and heavy industrial and I'll I'll breach to you this quickly okay light industrial permitted uses packaging certain types of manufacturing
distribution facilities warehousing office office warehouses and fabric Laboratories farm equipment Implement repair services characteristics low pollution levels minimal noise and limited environmental impact often located closer to residential
areas may have more stringent building codes regarding building Heights noise levels and Aesthetics heavy industrial zoning permitted uses chemical manufacturing mining por production steel mills oil refineries
large scale processes heavy machinery significant environmental impacts often located further away from residential areas may require extensive infrastructure and land use um potentially higher en environmental
impacts I'm just going to skim through this light Industrials typically located in zones designated for light industrial use which may be more integrated into mixed use or business Parks heavy industrial usually found in
industrial zones or areas specifically designed and designated for heavy industrial use often further from residential areas due to potential environmental and noise concerns zoning of that located in heavy
industrial or manufacturing zones with stricter zoning requirements and distance from residential or commercial properties and again if that's if that's just the case and it's just about
getting the Hill off of there then I'm kind of beating a dead horse but I'd rather be I'd rather be proactive right now than reactive um the city of Detroit lakes's comprehensive plan this this is kind of contradictory to
your own plan starting with page 62 of that and I'm just this is just a couple highlights General description of zones and I'm just going to talk about the industrial ones i1 light industrial the purpose of i1 district is to provide for
establishment of warehousing and light Industrial Development I2 heavy industrial the purpose I2 is to provide for the establishment of heavy industrial and Manufacturing development and use which because of the nature of the product or character AC of activity
requires isolation from residential or commercial use this is Detroit lakes's city city plan um page 99 industrial land use goal
number two maintain a high standard of Industrial Development including appearance of sites buildings and outside storage areas policies encourage site setup no I'm sorry get to the nuts and bolts policies
CND D industrial areas shall be adequately screened from residential areas according to city codes existing industrial uses and new Industrial Development shall not cause pollutants or contaminants to be emitted into the surrounding environment
including air soils groundwater drain ways sanitary sooner sewer or to form sewer in excess of state and federal levels page 111 Administration goals and policies goal number two respond to the
concerns and issues of Detroit likes residents that's us and maintain good communication with City residents and businesses through direct contact open meetings television newsletters Outreach programs and
project bulletins along with remaining proactive in addressing plan is planning issues code enforcement and nuisance comples raised by the citizens and local businesses now I'm going to ask a question is that is that your belief
that this has been transparently carried out to the best of your abilities what do you think that this will do to Residents property values in this area um I built my house I'm 40 40 years ago and
it was agricultural now I'm in a light industrial park and cro on three directions from me luckily I have almost eight or nine acres so I have some space but you know action Fab listening to their punch presses in the evening that doesn't bother me
but if if it gets zoned heavy industrial and it doesn't revert back that's a problem and I can definitely appreciate it for Dan too because he's got Senior Living town houses smack dab across the
street from it and I know that there's other people um even the apartment complex further up uh Terry Street rounding the curve by the soccer field he wanted to make it to this he
was concerned about this too um so that's my concern once it gets classified as heavy industrial I don't think I as a citizen have any recourse and you can't give me any
assurances on that can you I can't I can only say that that is our intent and that as long as I'm here when we bring the plat forward I will also bring forward a request to reone it back to i1
you want to take that entire heill down correct yes it's about a half a million cubic yards of material no I understand one more question what do you intend to do with the wetlands in the
front of that property between Atkins and uh new food P we have no intention to do anything with the you're still going to have those as reservoirs the the wetlands are remaining as they
are okay that's all I have um again I mean on the record I'm concerned about it changing to heavy industrial and not changing back understood thank you Larry appreciate your comments all right is there anyone else that would like to
make a comment on the rezoning uh the proposed rezoning at 983 Richwood road to heavy industrial any further comments any further comments on that resoning all right hearing none then I will close this public hearing and uh
open it up for discussion with amongst the commission I have a question for Larry if we vote to change this zoning can we put a condition in that it's strictly used for the mining of the
gravel hold on one second um Larry could could you uh if you need to have a conversation could you guys step out in the back oh I'm sorry yeah no no problem I just want to make sure everybody's able to hear the discussion can you repeat the question so if we vote to change the zoning to I2
can we put a condition in that it's strictly used for the mining of gravel no once you rezone something you have to take all of it with with it you can't pick and choose which items you're going to
allow Mr chair and Chris Larry there is a conditional use piece under I2 yes under I2 they can't just automatically start gravel mining they have to come in and get a conditional use permit which will spell out the phases of how they're
going to do that what kinds of operations they will have on there what their hours of operation might be and and so forth okay but prior to that they'd have free reign of what an I2 allows any permitted use correct right
but the the good news is we're not intending to sell any of this property until it's platted we're not intending to Plat until we have the gravel removed so there isn't going to be any land sales or new businesses going in there
until after the gravel mining is done so we would have an opportunity then to rezone it back to i1 and approve a plat for that area okay I'm sorry can I ask a question again if you wouldn't mind coming up to the microphone just so we
can capture it you probably remember me um you seem Vaguely Familiar are you entertaining any any any uh potential uh businesses as of right now or not we
do not have any potential buyers or uh Pro uh different so basically you want to get the property ready you're going to Street and curve it I assume and do all that correct so there's no underlying there no under underlying agenda here other
than getting the hill down correct okay and the other thing that I would say is in the in the order that I'm proposing for the council I'm going to put in there that is it is the intent to rezone it back to i1 once the gravel mining is
complete but that's the strongest language that we can use it's non-binding whoever makes the motion it would be really great if you put that in the motion to if we decide to move for this we'll see that what what comes of the discussion one more question what
kind of a time frame are you looking at to do the process of your excavation well my personal wish is that it gets done as soon as possible what we're going to do is issue a request for proposals and the whoever comes in to do
the work is going to tell us how fast they think they can remove that much material I mean ideally a year two years ideally probably three years more realistically five to seven but I don't
know that for sure okay any other questions thank you all right any other conversation or discussion from the commission Mr chair Larry um when you issue that request for postal they'll have to meet the ocean mining standards
right yes okay yeah so I mean the only comment that I'd have on this I mean I I agree with what you're saying Larry as well as uh as what Dan shared it's a challenge and it's this is one of the unique spots
we face as a city and as a Planning Commission where we have an opportunity right now to think about how do we prepare this land for what our intent is in the comprehensive plan and it is laid out as light Industrial in the comprehensive plan and it's currently
zoned that way and we have a unique opportunity to do it in a way that isn't going to cost the city a whole bunch of money in fact it might be the opposite way we don't know I mean but at the very least it's we're not going to have to have the expense to get rid of it uh to
get rid of that in order to prepare it for that however there's risk right and that's always the risk we take is that in five to seven years some of us may not be sitting here anymore and there may be different things that happen and those are the risks I think Larry you're
referring to is what happens um and I think you know we have to decide now what do we think the right thing is do we take the risk and sh what our intent is now for future boards commissions and councils uh or do we not take the risk
and then have to figure out how to take on that expense and and that's the decision that's really before us so with that said I would entertain a motion question yeah is there a current need for what would be
mined absolutely okay anybody want to make a motion on this one Mr chair I'll make the motion um based on the staff report the Development Authority is requesting to rezone the former Cleveland property from an i1 to an
I2 the Development Authority intends to issue a request for proposal to mine 500 100,000 cubic yards of gravel from the property prior to expanding the industrial park the gravel mining is not permitted in an i1 District it is
permitted as a conditional use in an I2 District so I'd like to make the motion that we approve the rezoning and add that the intent to rezone it back to an i1 is
followed through is there a second I'll I'll make a second all right so we have a second from we have a a motion from Liz and a second from Andrew any discussion on the motion all right hearing none all those
in favor please signify by saying I I I oppose same sign motion carries thank you uh for your comments tonight Larry and and uh the discussion from the commission all right let's move on to item 3B uh and I'll call the order a
public hearing to give consideration to a variance to allow a 50x 64 addition to a building with a 19t setback instead of the required 40 foot setback at 939 Corr Avenue for sat Holdings LLC
Larry yeah this is a request from great North Pizza to put an addition on their building and to have a what is it 17 foot setback instead 40t and the reason that they're asking
for that is that their rear lot line has a very sharp angle to it it isn't squared off and they're also adjacent to a wetland and a storm water pond so the setback issue is not highly visible from the street or
from anywhere and so I'm recommending approval subject to the conditions that are listed or to the findings of fact that are listed in your report would you like me to read those uh yeah why don't you go ahead and
read the conditions once so we get that out of the way and everybody can hear it okay staff recommends approval of the variance based on the following findings one the variance is in harmony with the purpose and intent of the ordinance the
adjacent land is wetland and just on the other side of our East property line is a retention Pond this variance would not cause any safety utility or privacy concerns number two the variance is consistent with the comprehensive plan
as it is an industrial use in an industrial district the addition would not look out of place and would aesthetically blend in with the neighboring properties number three The Proposal puts the property to use in a reasonable manner as it will allow an
addition with a 19t rear yard setback adjacent to a storm water holding Pond they are not able to add on any other side of the building due to property lines and space needs for semi- trffic they originally chose to build the production facility on the north
side of the property rather than on the longer South Side to avoid North winds with the loading docks as they are located within our production area number four the circumstances are unique to the property the East property line is at a diagonal if it were a bit more
squired off they would not require a variance for the 40 foot setback and five the variance will maintain the essential character of the neighborhood a variance for the setback in this case will not alter the overall
look and feel of the industrial park it would not stand out in comparison to other properties in the vicinity all right thanks Larry is there anyone here that would like to make a comment to the commission about this one any public comments all right hearing
none I'm going to go ahead and close the public hearing and open it up for discussion amongst to the commission or a motion any discussion or anyone want to make a motion is a motion to approve okay so we have a motion to approve the variance is there a second a che that all right we
have a motion and a second on the floor any discussion hearing none all in favor signify by saying I I oppos same sign motion carries all right 3 C uh we I will now Now call to order a public hearing to give
consideration to a preliminary and final plat approval of broad lawn estate second edition at 26208 North Tower Road and 1774 North Tower Road Long Pine States LLC Raymond reading all right Larry okay this is a request for a
preliminary and final plat and the property is at 1774 North Tower Road basically part of this is already in the city and another portion of it uh will need to be annexed into the City and the annexation hearing will
be at the April council meeting so the owner is requesting preliminary and final plat approval which will be granted after the annexation is completed preliminary and final plat approval should be subject to the
following conditions first that the owner provide any utility easements required by the city two that the owner provide any storm water easement required by the city three that the owner pay the required
$1,656 Park dedication fee four that the owner sign a development agreement for this plat prior to the city signing the plat and five that the property be annexed to the city prior to the city signing the final plat the next item that's coming up on
your agenda is also rezoning of a portion of this property or of the plat plat area of this property okay all right go ahead if you'd
like Adam gagger with metaland surveying here with Raymond reading um yeah this is a tulap plat with the existing house on it and a shed on the other one um the piece that is being an or it's in the process of being an Annex that is
submitted and then um the rezone would be to our two I believe so if you have any questions we're happy to try to answer them all right thank you appreciate it any other public comments on this one any further
comments any further comments all right hearing none I will go ahead and close the public hearing and open this up for discussion with the commission up to including a motion please not everyone at once thinking I'll make a motion to
approve all right we have a motion to approve any is there a second second all right we have a motion on a second any discussion on the motion hearing none all those in favor signify by saying I I oppose same sign
motion carries 3D I will call to order a public hearing to give con consider consideration to the resoning from ra agricultural residence District I can't say that agriculture residence District R2 R2 one and two Family Residence district for broad La estate's second
edition at 26208 North Tower Road and 1774 North Tower Road Long Pine Estates Raymond Runing would you like to add anything Larry so the comprehensive plan shows this area as either open space or residential so the R2 zoning would be
very appropriate and they're just ask asking to rezone these two lots that are in the broad La estate second edition plat okay would you like to say anything else are there any other comments about this any other comments all right hearing none I'm going to go ahead and
close the public hearing and open it up to the commission for discussion up to and including a motion I'll make a motion to approve the resoning application that's in front of us R2 second that all right we have a motion in a second any discussion all those in
favor say I I oppose same sign motion carries 3E I'll call to order a public hearing to give consideration to a conditional use permit to allow a planned unit development for a self storage facility with enclosed outdoor storage at 1397 wner Road for Menard
Inc all okay this is essentially an amended conditional use permit for the U Menard's storage facility in the past we approved a storage facility that had 290 some enclosed
units and approximately 80 some uh outdoor storage areas now they're requesting 392 enclosed areas and only four outdoor areas basically all of the conditions remain the same the only thing that's changing is that we're
approving a different site plan and a different configuration and it's all in accordance with what they did in the past and I would recommend approval great thanks I'm assuming this is the last one
so he must be here for that I am well welcome if you could say your name and uh uh good evening members of the Planning Commission my name is Pat weell I'm a real estate representative for Menard Inc uh 5101 Menard Drive oair Wisconsin 54703 great thank you uh as
Larry uh explained we're here essentially requesting reapprovals our self storage project that we got approved in late 2023 um this is just on ground next to our Menard Store um functionally the project Remains the Same just the unit counts Chang as we were designing and
developing this we waffled over how we wanted it to look and then we had some storm water and snow concern so we started switching up lay switching out layouts and you know too many pieces or too many hands in the cookie jar and everybody wanted something different so we ended up with a facility that did not meet the the unit um requirements that
we had approved last time so we we're coming back for re-approval of this project functionally everything else Remains the Same we'll operate the same way with the store and the and and the corporate offices in oir um gate to get into the facility secure because tenants need codes that they can't get until they rent um all those things that we
outlined last time will remain the same sure great any questions don't have any right now but if we do we'll call you back up how's that sound Adam did you have anything you wanted to add okay well then I'm going to go ahead and close the public hearing
and open it up for discussion to the commission Mr chair and Larry I just have one question Larry is this an amendment of the original conditional use permit that was approved in 2023 or we approving a new we are actually approving a new one because of the age
of the old one and the amount of time it might take for them to get their building permit it just seemed prudent to issue a new conditional use permit but it is essentially an amended conditional use permit thank you have a bigger footprint then can you
guys make sure that you pull those mics up because otherwise the recording won't pick it up it is the same footprint okay I'll make a motion to approve the conditional use permit that was presented and recommended by the staff conditions um that were outlined okay we
have a second we have a motion in a second any discussion on that motion all in favor signify by saying I oppos same sign motion carries all right that's the end of the planning meet the the uh public hearings now we're on to
uh some business so 4A consideration to the final plat of Marty's Acres at 2577 US Highway 10 Don maram this is the four lot commercial plat and I think we should recommend approval
of this plat subject to the following things that the owner determine the assessments are to be divided and provide that information to the city prior to the city standing the final plat two that the owner be advised there's no service lateral available on lot four and three that the owner be
advised that lot four may need to tap directly into the city's water in sewer at its own expense and may have an assessment for the service line east of Lot 4 on Long Lake Road and with those conditions I would recommend approval okay any
discussion questions motion there's the plat Mr chair and Larry I just have one it's assumed based on the plat that we're looking at that they're going to access the each of the individual
um Lots from the road correct because there will be no condition of develop road development within that no they are not developing any roads they are on existing roads and they will access on those existing roads okay thank
you okay any other questions or would someone else like to make a motion motion to approve all right we have a motion to approve is there a second second okay we have a motion in a
second any discussion hearing none all those in favor say I I oppose same sign motion carries all right for B consideration to the matter of annexing property in Detroit Township of a 1 half acre more or less and rezoning the tra
R2 one and two family residential district at 26208 North Tower Road Long Pine Estates so this is the annexation that I talked about earlier for Raymond reading in his project so we're going to be annexing a piece of
property that was sold to the previous owner of the property from Detroit Township so are you Fami if you're familiar with where Detroit Township has their Town Hall out on MH uh 131 uh they they sold off a portion of
that lot to the East and that's what's going to be annexed the rest of it around there is already annexed so as part of the annexation it will be zoned R2 and then we'll be rezoning the plat
of what's it called Broadline estate second and that will take care of this issue okay so the council will hold a public hearing for that annexation at the April meeting and really it's just
technicality this is just an information item only we don't need to take any action M okay thank you for that update Larry all right uh is anyone else from the commission want to address so Larry
I have a few questions I'm sorry you guys I'm sure you want to go but I do have a few questions we're doing pretty good on time considering how many public he considering yep you are correct you guys are very efficient uh I have a couple of questions on the and conditional use
permit section and a couple of questions um on updates on projects I know Broadway welding we've talked about it they're due to expire May 14th any update they have been informed that their conditional use permit is going to
expire um or their variances are going to expire they have not come forward with anything when they do I'm going to ask them for a very detailed explanation of why and a schedule for when because I think their opportunity to keep
extending this is probably running we got to be five years into this by now yeah well and I think he's running close to the Spillman yeah um okay so I appreciate that we need a new owner to get it done
or what right um Lake View on Detroit the one we have a couple of um items there that had conditional use now any updates on
the lake view project on Detroit I know it's still for am I Chris am I right is it still for sale um it's that Westlake Drive and you know how the property runs to the back that
property has sold and so I don't really know what their plans are okay forward so it's likely we could just say your conditional use is expired right okay okay um Menards we I think we just
addressed that since that's been on we just addressed that yep um let's see Providence Lakes um Provident Lakes has been held up because they had to deal with mot on
the access that's right but they did get the access issue resolved they are going to be removing trees next week have they applied for land disturbance permit then they have oh okay they're doing everything in order so the first step is
to remove the trees The Next Step will be to uh apply for a building permit for actual construction okay thank you for that update great to hear that yes um uh I think I only had bear with me
you guys only one other question oh Chad Wendell and the port on little Detroit um some of you may not be aware of this but um Kelsey was going to ask Chad
wondell for a potential easement for the snowm bill trail that currently runs through that property but do we have an update has that property moved in any direction they have not done anything yet okay so we're still waiting and I'm
not sure where Kelsey's at on the snowmobile access because it gets a little awkward based on I know where it can go and how it has to be he's not sure how useful it would be so okay do you mind I will follow up on that thank
you I appreciate it and then you haven't seen anything from chadwi move on that particular project so we could be another two years down the pipeline no I think it's more imminent than that oh okay you do I do if you recall his
original plan said uh said he was basically going to do it over three years it did it was a phased approach I think we'll see something on that though yet this year you do I do okay okay that's the last one I had I do see that the land disturbance
permit was updated and it looks like good and Company is moving out to the industrial park yes they are making the move they're making the move well congratulations Development Authority that's all I had thank you for
bearing with me not a problem that's what we're here for thank you all right anyone else from the commission have anything they'd like to review okay with that said then I will go ahead and adjourn this meeting and see you all another months