Good morning. I call to order this meeting of the board of assessors for the town of Dyon on January 28th, 2026. The time is 10:02 a.m. [clears throat] This is a public meeting being video and audio recorded for cable broadcast and
internet posting on www.dyon-ma.gov and YouTube. Um, I'd like everybody to please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Terribly dry today. Um uh attendance uh here >> um old business and release of chapter 61A. Okay. So, at our last meeting, um
there was a question about um someone out of chapter um in the roll back. So, I looked at I went under the roll back tax and um it says if the land owner withdraws from the program, the roll
back tax is still assessed if the land use changes to a non-chapter use within 5 years withdrawn. In such a case, the roll back tax is due for each year within the 5-year look back period for which chapter 61A reduces tax and repaid. So, there's no roll back tax
penalty for withdrawing a property from chapter 61A if the land owner keeps the land in a use eligible for any one of the chapter uh programs for a period of 5 years after withdrawal of the program. So, they're taking it out and it's just their land, but they could put it back
in. They're they're not cutting it up. They're not It's still eligible to go back in unless they >> for the next 5 years. >> Yes. They're not doing anything with it. If they do, they will hit them with the tax. >> But does that piece of land now get added to the value of the house and the
land it sits on? >> Yes. It will be a residential um be a regular tax, but there's no roll back. >> No, no back unless they Okay. >> Gotcha. >> Change it. >> Okay. Okay. So the just the value res tax on the full amount of the property,
>> right? And that would be for >> whenever a property is sold or subdivided or whatever, you do some sort of historical look back to make sure that they were not in chapter for the last 5 years. >> Um I haven't come across anyone. We kind
of know all the like the names of the people that >> are in that are in chapter. Um, this one I will have us looking on a list that we'll look every year. >> So, if they sell it two years from now, >> usually when they >> then there's a roll back. >> But when usually when they take it out,
it's because they're doing something with it. >> But these they're just sitting on it because we told them they weren't >> using it. They weren't using it properly. >> That's what it was. So, they kind of had to pull it out because they were leaving it in. >> It wasn't hitting the minimum for
generating revenue, right? Isn't it $500 or something? you have to do $500 or something and they weren't. So they said take it out. So he said okay. >> Yeah. >> And now they taking Okay. >> Yeah. >> So they kind I got you. >> Forgive me if I'm >> That's County Street.
>> Yeah. But that does not look like 12 acres to me. That's 12 acres. It is um three or four to what? >> Well, this part of the sway in the marsh also.
>> Yeah, I think so. >> Who's this? >> This is Tony Rodri's. >> Tony, right? That's what I notic. Yeah. >> Yeah. So I think I think it includes other surrounding areas of it cuz she said it's mostly marsh like can't do anything with it. So I think
>> so there's more than just that. >> Yeah. >> This says 11 acres are in chapter. That is a weird way that this is worded. [sighs] There are no roll back tax penalties for withdrawing blah blah blah
if the landowner keeps the land in a use eligible for any one of the chapter 61 per >> Yeah. So they they just sit on it. But if they >> So the presumption here is that >> subdivided
>> it was properly in chapter >> right >> and they're saying okay if you take it out of chapter but it still remains that it could be in chapter >> that's how I read that too >> but if they took it out and they split it then you know that that's a change of
use and they would have to pay roll back. Fair enough. >> Yeah. So if it could potentially be rolled back in there's no roll back. But if someone split their land, >> change of use, right? >> And built a house. >> Yeah. It's all roll back. >> No, because he he built the house for himself.
>> Oh, really? >> Yes. >> Those in town. >> I see. So, if he puts a garage on it or something, he can still use it. >> Yeah. And still be eligible. >> Well, it's not a commercial grant. >> It's not um Well, >> it's not, you know, professional equipment or anything like that,
>> right? >> Okay. Interesting. Okay, cool. So, >> okay, Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve and sign release of chapter land 61A lean for map 24, lot 312835
County Street. >> Uh, second motion made and seconded. Any further discussion hearing? None. All in favor? I >> I vehicle. >> Yep. So, you just need to sign that. Mr. Chairman,
>> I move that we approve and sign the levy of 2025 motor vehicle abatements uh dated January 28th, 2026 in the amount of $855.88. >> I second that motion. >> 28th or the 27th?
>> 8th. >> 28th. Okay. I was just Oh my god, I picked the wrong date. >> Nope. This month is screaming by. I don't know. >> It really is. I >> It's all the snow days. >> My son just turned 18. [clears throat] >> Nice. >> On Sunday. >> Congratulations, >> baby. >> Mhm.
>> Congratulations. >> Yeah. >> My youngest is 18, too. It's cool. >> I don't know about being cool, but >> Oh, I like it. >> You got You got a problem with with parenthood or something? [clears throat] No. Your problem? >> I like it. No, no, no. Now you get to use your excuse. You're an adult now.
>> These things are on you. >> You make emotion. Oh, you mean a motion? >> You got a motion. >> I second. >> Oh, motion made in second. All in favor? >> I >> I >> I Sorry, I didn't hear Eric's. >> I was too busy think I said I second that emot that emotion. >> That emotion. [laughter]
>> That's an old song. >> It's in my head now. >> Yeah, me too. Thanks. [clears throat] >> Smokey Robinson. >> Um, I think so. >> I'm thinking more hip hoppy. Nancy. >> Oh. Oh, >> Mr. Chairman, I move
>> I move that we approve the levy of 2024 motor vehicle abatements um dated January 28, 2026 the amount of $84.76. >> I second that motion. >> Motion made second. All in favor?
>> I >> I >> I know sticky didn't handle it. We don't have something. [laughter] >> We cut the budget so we don't have to stick to >> That's right. We're going to reuse. >> There you go.
>> Um, Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve and sign the levy of FY2025 boat abatements, uh, dated January 28, 2026 in the amount of $43. >> I second that motion. >> Motion made second. All in favor? Hi. >> Hi.
>> Hi. >> Okay. We didn't have any. >> I have seen none. >> So nothing for >> I put this in on I put it [clears throat] on Thursday because I knew the snow was coming. So
>> right, >> I wasn't sure what would come in the meantime. >> [clears throat] >> So that >> it's title five interest. >> Yeah. [snorts] >> Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve and sign the title five
annual addition to the annual tax dated December 22nd, 2025 in the amount of $1,36.88. >> I second motion made and seconded. Motion discussion
hearing none. All in favor? Hi. >> What are we on? Did we get to the boat abatements? Did we? >> Yeah, you already signed it. >> We did do the vote. Okay, that was that. Okay, I'm check $43, >> right? $43 boat, right? >> Yeah, that's two. >> Look, that wasn't on my my boat.
>> I think ofotes this time of the year. It's like, woohoo. Oh, no. That's a summer thing. Mr. Mr. Chairman, I move that we uh approve and sign the motor vehicle and trailer excise 2025-07 commitment
[clears throat] dated January 28th, 2026 in the amount of $8,99.97. >> I second that motion made and seconded. Any discussion? None. All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> There's only one spot I have to sign
that one. Right. >> This one. >> That one is two. >> Two stickies on that one. Two signies. >> Yeah. So, that one is more. That's for the first um 2026
the first motor vehicle. >> So, that is that G on the agenda? >> Yeah. scraping. They're trying to create room in case we get more snow. I >> thought they were doing that downstairs like rearranging furniture. >> Yeah, they're pushing things back. [clears throat] Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve and
sign the motor vehicle and trailer excisement in the amount uh dated 2026-01 dated January 28, 2026 in the amount of Wow. >> Yeah. >> Yep. [laughter]
>> 1 million221,321. Second that motion. Motion made and dis motion made and seconded. >> Second >> and discussion I'll say wow that's >> wow a lot of >> all in favor >> I
>> I >> um this is just for you to sign the contract that we have. >> Nothing changes. I just changed the dates. Um, so, um,
may I have a agreement of the board that I signed a contract for, um, >> Oh, >> Richard, thank you. >> Um, he's under an LLC, so it's RG. >> RG. Okay. Anybody has any uh
>> comments, discussion, whatever about me signing a um contract with RG Assessing Services >> for $4,000. >> Uh Mr. Chairman, I move that we uh vote to approve and have you sign the contract for services or consulting
services RG Assessing Services in the amount of $4,000. >> I second that. Motion being seconded. Any discussion? Hearing none. Favor. >> I >> I
do not have real estate exemptions. We have a couple to put in. Um >> nothing. Okay. >> And in the CPA. I just wasn't sure >> about that. >> Always better to have it on there just in case. Yeah. No, it is. Are we are people applying for you know to meet deadlines that we have?
>> We have 10 abatements so far. >> Okay. >> So I expect one two two from last year. >> Two that didn't get approved. They're looking for
>> one got some one didn't. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Okay. So there's >> no I, no J, and now we're on 2K. >> Oh, yeah. >> Review and sign the the 2027 assessor's
budget. Now, I've reviewed this budget and I don't agree with it either one of them. Not even close. Um, >> you're not signing it. >> You're not taking a motion at all. >> Um, somebody else wants to make a motion,
override me. Go ahead. Should we make a motion and then discuss? >> Sure. >> This part of discussion. >> Sure. Go ahead. >> So, N you want to make a motion and then we'll go to discussion? >> Um, okay. These are my thoughts. So, >> make a motion. >> Make a motion. So, we can discuss.
>> She doesn't know what she's deciding yet. [laughter] I make a motion that the assessor submit a FY27 budget equal to the FY26
budget with the addition of required negotiated contract increases. In other words, it would be the same as this year increased by union contracts or personnel contracts that relate to
us. I don't want to go back. That's us not make the motion. All right. I second the motion. >> Okay. >> Any [clears throat] discussion, right? Any discussion? Okay. So, now let's discuss. Go ahead. >> Why do you make that motion, Nancy? >> I don't feel that what's been submitted to us and and this is not this is not
directed [clears throat] at Stephanie. >> Yes. No reflection whatsoever. >> Following the directive, um I don't think the directive that was sent out, and I'll make a broad statement to all town departments, committees, commission, whoever's got a budget truly
reflects what we're dealing with for the coming year. It needs to it the town budget in total needs to be looked at based on new information that has come in relative to
uh unanticipated receipts from the school department. the very large amount of money we have left in free cash and uh and I'll add the exceptionally
bad information that was presented to not only all town departments board committees but to the residents of the town of Dyton going into the annual meeting in June to end up the year with
almost two million 1.9 exactly in free cash when you're at the fall town meeting when you've been telling everybody all year long how tough things are and how we got to pull this. So that's where I'm coming from.
That's what I'm thinking of. I really >> So my only question Yeah. My only question here is could you clarify the free cash? You said a substantial amount. Somebody's substantial amount might be different than somebody else's >> at town meeting at town meeting in the fall. Yeah. >> When I get up to make a motion to
increase uh the amount to be put into the stabilization account by $25,000, uh that has always pretty much been $200,000 a year if you can do it. So
when free cash gets certified at something like 1.9 and I'm looking at two cuts of $25,000 each from stabilization what was proposed or at least what I thought it should be based on past history.
It occurred to me that not only were all of the aforementioned, including the citizens of the town of Dyon, were not given correct information. The reasons therefore
didn't make sense to me. That information was known when free cash gets certified. Not only that, you have to monitor it. Not only expenses, you have to monitor a budget and watch your income.
How could you be that far off? >> Okay, >> so that's just looking for clarification. I'd like to ask understand the dollar amount. >> I'd like to add one thing which is directly relevant to the assessing office. Um, Nancy, I asked you and unfortunately I had misplaced
um you made a copy of a spreadsheet for me of all of the new revenue coming in from solar farms. >> Yes. >> My recollection is that was like 500 or was over $500,000, wasn't it? >> Uh, without looking at it, I would say
absolutely. >> [clears throat] >> So, we have literally uh $500,000, which is what uh one 2% something like that. >> Yeah,
>> that's like a 2% of our total of our total budget right there. So that should that alone should cover the the vast majority of this assessment from EP. I want to know where all the money's
going. I mean, we're talking about cutting people cutting people that are making part-time salaries, >> right? >> Because we're so broke. I want to know where all the money's going to before I I'm not going to agree to a budget. Okay. >> So, I would
>> I'm sorry. I'm terribly dry. I I was so >> okay. So I concur that. >> So >> with both of you. So >> so uh any further discussion? >> Short summary. We were not given correct information when we were preparing the
2026 budget. And as we went through two town meetings, we all know that's a true statement. And I really think there has to be focus on really not only budget control but maybe a better system of
estimating income. >> Okay. As a matter of fact, let me ask you. >> So we are we approving the motion. >> One second. Uh quick question. When was the edict given to you of saying you had to come up with these two budgets?
[clears throat] >> The numbers given to you. You have to meet these numbers. When was that? >> December. >> Yeah, I think >> I remember an email. I'm thinking December. >> December, I think. Yeah. >> So then it may very well >> it could like before we knew we had $750,000 coming in.
>> Might have since the end of December, right? That we found out. >> But that 750 now add to what I was told >> in addition to the 500 from Solar Farms. and $1 million extra income that >> 900,000 is what was left after the town
meeting in the fall when we got 50,000 25 each for stabilization accounts. Um, yeah, because the the the 35,000 for the parking lot. My question to the fincom was if we approve everything on the
warrant tonight. >> Yes, we'll have 1.9. So, the the 50,000 that was over and above. So, it would have just reduced it a hair under a million because the 35 was already in there, which passed. All right. So
all we did was spend an additional get approval to spend not spend set aside save 50 grand. >> Um >> so uh Stephanie just uh handed me the memorandum. It was November 20th.
>> Okay. November. >> So the >> the request to come in with these these budget numbers was >> you didn't have 750 from the school. >> Yeah. and you and so 750 coming up this year but 750,000 to meet
that right there. >> I don't know what our percentage of the bud budget is here but you know we're talking about cutting [clears throat] what uh either 17 or 42 >> a drop in the bucket compared to uh you
know >> yeah scrub that against 750. Um, so I mean I'm not saying this is necessarily the permanent solution, >> right? But you're not approving that the way it is. >> We can go we can go for another year and figure out,
>> you know, you know, I'm I have strong opinions as to where the money the black hole of money is the big sucking go moth that's pulling all the money out of our town is. Um, and we need to work on that. So anyway, we're approving it as NY's
motion roll it back to 26 budget. >> I agree with what N was submit. >> I just want to make sure we're on the same page. only submit one budget or if he wants to give him cop two copies of the same budget which is the FY26 budget
that was approved by the residents of this town increased by any contractual obligations which would be union and personnel. >> Yeah, >> that that's that's the budget going in
for FY27 for the board of assessments. >> All right. So I second that motion. >> Okay. So, >> you already did. >> Oh, I did. That's right. We went to discussion. I'm sorry. Right. >> Any further discussion? >> Well, I just have um like a few of my bills have gone up. You know, different
applications that we use have gone up a little bit. So, >> so I motion to amend N. >> Move to amend to include any >> uh contractual increases for services. That work? >> Yeah. >> Just say any contractual obligations.
>> Yeah. >> Increases. in a contractual obligations, >> right? >> Increase in contractual obligations. Okay. >> Okay. >> I like that one. Second that. >> Second that one. I second the amendment. >> Any discussion >> on the amendment? >> No. >> All in favor?
>> I >> I >> on the main motion >> as amended. As amended, >> I >> I >> I >> public input. Anybody want to talk about our budget? So mic correspondence
I have um I think I have unanticipated but correspondence would that be the talking about >> anything that came >> setting up the >> yes that would be fine um since this is just a matter of setting a meeting I don't think that's has to be no
>> executive so you had this this was what you had email communication with dyon power >> yep Well, >> so can we just get them uh and and Mr. Sam Susi as well for the next >> is that how you want it to do. We want
to hear what they have questions >> if they want to talk about valuation of their property. Uh I feel that myself or any member of this board is not qualified to speak to that. This is what
we use our consultant for. So, I would want to consult >> I just want to make sure that the consultant is needed for that meeting. So, we don't pay them to be here and then they're not needed, >> but he can be discussing value. >> He can zoom in and >> I'm assuming that that is what they'll be.
>> We're assuming. Yeah, we don't know for sure, >> but he can zoom in and if it looks like this is not going to go, he can ask a few questions. If it's not headed in his direction, he can say, "I'm going to step out." Now my main concern is that
appellet tax board it's like going to court Mr. Sans Susie is sort of it's not like a lawyer but he acts as our our consultant representative our expert >> he can explain things >> whatever is coming into us in the form
of information >> has been denied and it's been denied he requested it he's the person >> so don't get into the details anyhow I think it's important that he be here uh I don't uh I would be uncomfortable to
move ahead without him >> at least. >> Exactly. I don't think the three of us if he says, you know, >> my my generator is worth a million dollars. We're like, >> we don't know. You know, we need the expert, >> right? Reach out about some
documentation we're still waiting [clears throat] on. >> Why don't you get in touch with Sansusi? >> You saw my email, which I'm sorry about. I'm I really did. I'm like, >> when you emailed me, >> what the hell is wrong with Bill? >> I immediately responded. Yep. >> I immediately responded,
>> but somehow I don't know if I just didn't hit send or if the app messed up. >> So, just in the future, if you're looking for something that I haven't responded to like in 24 hours, you know, bing me again and I would have sent it right away. I literally when you said something, I went over the mail and just
had sent. >> So, what I said in that that email was ask for the documentation and get Sansusi here for the meeting. Okay. >> But they need to know he's going to be here. I I [clears throat] >> Oh, yeah. I'm not comfortable meeting
without him >> because they said they >> No, I assume they want to talk about value and and it's not a gotcha. Don't make sure it's clear on that. It's like we're just going to have an open discussion, >> right? >> And so I mean actually those are the two people that need to talk. Susie and [snorts]
>> we're good with Zoom. I mean I don't think >> that's fine for him. >> And about the people too. >> No problem. >> I don't know if they're around here. I don't really know. the Zoom is is >> Yeah, whatever. That's fine. We can do it. >> All the boards use use that >> and we're going to What? That would be executive session. >> Yes. >> Okay.
>> So, I'm You want me to You want me to see if they um can do the 28th then? >> I have no idea. >> What's the next date? >> Hey, don't waste that sheet. >> Yeah, I know, right? >> Right now, 17th. >> Not buying. >> What's our next time? >> Yeah, it is 17th, I think. Right. >> Yeah, I guess so.
>> Yeah. >> February. No, 18th. February 18th. So, February >> right >> 18th. Make sure everyone can attend and then I will you guys are good with it. We kind of already set them up. So, I'm assuming everyone
>> I'm just checking to make sure it's on my calendar >> has it available. So, I will >> February 18th or 17th. >> 18th. >> Yeah, 18th is Wednesday. Yeah. [clears throat] >> Okay. Um minutes >> anything we didn't have any unanticipated >> unanticipated
>> oh um I got to write the uh three reports >> well one of them is storm water so if you don't care about that um I've got to write the annual reports for the board of assessors and the uh fence viewers um and I'm thinking we didn't have any
cases did we last [clears throat] year or did any of them carry >> we the one case that we just did >> at the very end of the year. That started at the end of the year, but you actually resolved it this year. So, I can write a little something just so we have something in there so they know we're still active. Uh
>> yeah, I mean they could come back to it if they >> did. So, I assume that was settled or >> they're going to they're the the property owner that we've dealt with. They're going to have a the surveyor come out and put the stakes
back in that were pulled out, I think. So, >> I don't they'll contact us if they would but the beauty of it is that it accomplished exactly what the board should do. >> Yeah. Okay.
>> Yeah, it'll be a brief report, but [laughter] um the uh we did exactly what we >> love to see, which is the fact that we mediated a situation There should be some hazard pan ball there because we had to climb through pricker bushes that I've never seen before.
>> Not since I was in middle school. >> I'm glad we didn't go. >> Do they mean briars? >> Yeah, man. I'll tell you that Brier Patrick was dangerous. >> Did you see Bri rabbit? >> We got eaten up. >> I think we did. >> It was [laughter] We got >> I will entertain a motion to adjourn.
>> I have complicated. >> I thought we were on correspondence. Sorry. [laughter] >> Okay. So, um, when we had, um, property sold, it was in chapter. This is back in June. >> Okay. So, we we, um,
>> Sounds like they're cutting the grass. >> So, we, um, released all the leans, >> but there was one strange lean out there that was >> strange lean. >> Yes. It's not like the normal. This is
um, >> this is a roll back, right? >> Yes. So they took a portion out back in so two 2002. So they had this out there. That's not something we normally release. That
would probably be more of Paul. So we >> It's a private tax lean. >> It's a It's a roll back tax for a portion they took out. >> Okay. >> Um >> that was never paid. So we just leaned it. >> No, I Okay. So, we don't we can't say
for sure that I have Paul's um email here that he typed out. Oh, I better have that cuz I I'm sure it was in here. >> Sorry for the background noise.
[laughter] >> Snow mowing the lawn attached to this. Yes. Okay. I'm not losing my mind. >> You're working hard. >> So, Paul Paul wrote has had him write something for us
of his feelings toward it was what's he say >> I think the bottom line yes is they don't have record of what was paid or not >> because >> we don't have record or the property owners never have record
>> it was before we were >> it's 170 165 >> $165 $171. >> It could have very well been >> P and just not recorded >> and marked and documented. >> It's not worth time. Let's just
>> So, and it's holding I don't know. The lawyer is >> Are they sell They're selling the property and that's the >> No, it's already sold, but this is on it. >> They can't record it for the new owner. >> Um I think that's already been recorded. It's just the lawyer wants it gone and he's wanted it gone. >> He wants a clean title. Yeah.
>> Yeah, I guess so. >> That's fine. How old? So, I contact um registry [clears throat] of deeds because I didn't know how to go about Yeah. >> So, I have mail in there. So, as long as I have >> I reference the book and page on here,
it shouldn't be a problem with them releasing it. >> Okay. >> So, that I had it ready for the last meeting. So, I put on here release certificate of penalty tax. So, it was specific to
that. And this is the booking page. What's the total amount? >> Um, well, I'm assuming it's going to be the 17192. >> Okay. I don't think I put that total in there because it's about the book and
page removing it. Not but I did make like three of them because I didn't know what you guys were gonna >> Yeah, I got you. >> But I don't think I brought all three because I was this is the best one. >> Nice. I didn't bring all the three because
>> Okay, go ahead. >> Okay, you all set. U Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve the release of classified forest, agricultural, open cultural land, release certificate of
penalty tax for 833 William Street, book 11354, page 81. The amounts are open. >> Where's the lot? Lap 8, lot 20 as recommended by the tax collector based on all available records.
>> In the amount of No, doesn't matter. >> In the amount of Thank you. >> Be uh $171.92. >> I second that motion. Motion being seconded. Any discussion? All in favor? I I
>> that's all I have. >> Okay. Make a motion to >> second. All >> in favor? >> I I >> Thank you. Everybody have a nice day. >> So, our next meeting is the 18th of February.
>> 18th of Feb. Two seconds.