Good morning. I hereby call to order the town board of assessors regular meeting on November 19th, 2025. The current time is 9:42. I'd like to remind everybody this is a public meeting video and audio recording for cable broadcast and internet posting
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all attendance. Bill and Eric are here. Ny's mostly here. >> We need that speaker over here. Oh, that's probably >> um old business >> release and reorder chapter land 61.
Now, this was the one >> that we >> we were questioning the >> acorage on. What did we find out? >> Okay, so originally originally this was the plan. It was 9.259. 259. That's what that >> Okay.
>> Okay. And then that was in 1971. And then 1988 was the plan that I had brought where it looks like they cut out everything, you know, but really it was just this one piece that was cut out. This was taken out in 71. This is from
88. So it actually did take that 61 off to make it the 8.63. >> Okay. Um and then we went back to deeds from 80s and 70s that reference uh the these deeds. So
it references the book and page there. >> So the numbers match. >> So that looks good to me >> right now that we we saw what was there before because it looks like they took out a couple acres and changed. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> That so it was 9
whatever. And then these are the deeds to to back up uh 2012. I got 79. >> Oh yeah. So when they recorded their chapter they have 6.49 I think instead
of this was recorded in 80. It's like 86 I think. And then this was >> Yeah. So we have to release what they have. So we
have to release what they had recorded. >> So it was recorded as 849. >> Yeah. >> Um and my recollection of our last meeting we discussed this. It actually said like the wrong acreage. Did you wipe that out or something? >> No. Well, this is old. This is what the
big the big plan that I showed you. It's just a small one like it's in there. Sorry. It gives you square footage. So we have written in what? >> So that translates. Yeah. That's what's written in. >> So the total acres to release is
>> No, no. What's the number? >> This says 8.49. >> 8.49 on the form. >> And we're going to just re-record that same amount. >> We're going to record it. >> No, the correct amount. correct amount, >> right? Was recorded
>> incorrectly. >> Releasing the incorrect and re-recording the correct. >> All right. So that's what it translates to. >> Okay. >> 37 something. This is that one. >> Well, I just they have it in square
feet, so we just have it written in. >> Right. Gotcha. >> Okay. >> That makes sense. That makes sense. >> Okay. Okay. So, >> we're releasing 8.49 and we're putting it back in. Wait a minute.
>> Because 849 was the wrong number. >> Correct. >> It was It should have been 9259 >> if they had everything in there. I don't know if they didn't have like >> So, releasing some unknown quantity of 8.49 and reregistering 8.63.
>> Yes. >> Correctly. is the the correct amount. >> Correct amount. >> Okay. >> Good research that >> Yeah. >> And I'm relieved to know that all of this happened before
the land taking that the town did because that would have been go back and try to straighten that out would have been a nightmare that the first time. Okay. I move that we release. >> So you have two things there. I don't
separately >> release uh from chapter 61 B 8.49 49 acres of map 22, lot 22
on Miller's Lane. >> I second. >> Motion made second. Any discussion? Is that sufficient? Um, >> yeah, I think so. I think we're you're just going to sign the release. So, you're releasing it? Yeah, I think that should be >> okay. All in favor?
>> I >> I >> and then the other the second half. >> You want to do the motion for the other one? >> Yep. Mr. Chairman, I move that we record 8.63 63 acres specified as chapter 61B, map 22, lot 22
on Miller's Lane. >> I second that motion. >> Motion made seconded. So I guess the question message do you need the name of the >> um I I think with the map and lot it's probably sufficient. >> Motion made second. All in favor? Right.
Business for year 2025. Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve and sign the levy of 2025 motor vehicle abatements November 19th to the amount of
$233.88. >> I second that motion. Motion made and seconded. Is there any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> 2024. I I move that we approve and sign the levy of 2024 motor vehicle abatements
November 19th, 2025 in the amount of $5848. 8 cents. >> I second that motion. >> Motion made and seconded. Is there any discussion? >> Hearing none. All in favor? >> I >> I
>> So big tax rate. Um you have >> I don't have too much at the moment. Um I'm working on that scenario. So you guys can tell me what how you want me to
um >> I'm I'm interested to see what Yeah. what rolled out. >> So the differences between so so last year we were talking about the differences between residential and commercial and how
they went up and down. probably went up. And so last year, >> uh, residential went way up and in commercial only went up a little bit. So we pushed it right >> all the way to one side. So what's the story this year about the total
valuation of commercial versus total valuation of resident? Uh, >> if you don't have that, can you please get it to me? >> Yeah, I plan on Yeah, when I go back, I've just got a >> I was just talking to Serena, you know,
we we submitted things where >> I don't know if we're not as or I'm not as far down the road with everything as as we have been. >> Okay. So, so my general thought, my plan is is if things are about the same,
leave them about the same. >> But if there has been if if somehow the property value so we're at the maximum push towards >> commercial >> away from residential towards commercial >> or was it 1.75 or something like that,
>> but that's lowering the residential as much as we possibly can. Um, and the reason we did that is because the commercial values only went up a little bit, but the residential went way up. So, we're like, we're going to try to, you know,
>> help the residential people as much as we can because the >> the values had gone up so high, >> right? >> So, if the values have gone up together >> evenly, >> I would say leave it at 175. >> Yep. >> If residential has gone up higher,
there's nothing we can do. Leave it at 175. Um, if however commercial has outpace residential, yeah, >> I would recommend by whatever degree to shift it back towards residential, but I doubt that'll be the case. So,
>> my guess is they'll either be even or residential. >> I would be very curious to see how that plays out. >> Yeah. So, we don't have the numbers yet, so nothing we can do about that. Right. >> Right. That sounds like a fair thought, though. >> Yeah. So, that would be my
recommendation. That's kind of what we've done in the past. >> That's kind of what we've done in the past, right? >> Historical. >> So, will the So, I can get this in enough time to kind of go through it and >> because I know in the past they've always said, "Can we get at least get bill?"
>> Yeah. >> Breaks it all down. >> Yeah. It's easier. >> There's not as much for them to actually go over because you kind of break it down and put it >> right. So, they don't have to digest it here in front of everybody and then make that quick. >> And it helps. It helps everybody. It helps everybody involved. Correct.
>> In the audience or on the camera, >> right? >> Get a kind >> understand it thoroughly. Correct. >> Going on, >> right? >> I plan to uh after I hydrate myself. Um >> yeah, take a cough. >> That's how it stops.
>> Those are the ones you put back in the bank. >> Oh, I don't like that one. I plan to, you know, do a short summary of, you know, what the taxation process is. >> Um, >> do you want that spread that boring spreadsheet
>> done? >> I don't particularly like the boring spreadsheet. >> I don't either. I don't either. I mean, >> um, I'm not sure it does anybody. >> He's going to make a presentation, so if he doesn't need it, I don't need it. >> Yeah. Yeah, I mean I think you give it more details
simplest >> explanation terms out and most effective that people don't >> people don't understand. >> Yeah. And when you throw too much in there now people start chasing rabbits down different rabbit holes and >> and we can answer any questions. >> I would agree with that.
>> They just want to know how much are my taxes >> how much are my taxes >> how much are my taxes going up. The people need to understand that the tax rate classification system that ship has sailed. >> Exactly. Right. >> You know, for some doom cop that seems
to think that, you know, we can change things at the tax rate. >> Right. When they say, "Why are our taxes?" Oh, did you go to the >> Yeah. Because they don't Yeah. Which is why the simplest explanation is the best. >> Yeah. I think people are like, "Yeah, what's this crap? This is boring. Just tell me what what's going to happen. What happened?"
>> Yep. How much is it going up? >> Yep. >> Your taxes are going up. >> That's what happens. That's always the answer. >> Unfortunately, >> and we are not the ones that do it. >> That's right. >> You all do. >> We are We are the >> We are the executioner. We are not the
judge. >> And we don't even make that final decision. >> Right. >> Yeah. And I think people who will be at the meeting tonight for that last text hearing >> like two people left. >> They're coming in. They're coming in for the selectman's meeting, >> right?
>> Mostly. >> So, they're going to have their um executive session over there 5:30 to 6 and then they're coming walk over here. >> Okay. >> The selectment tonight. >> Oh, cool. So, we can be having our >> We'll have the Yeah, we're going to do it here. >> Oh, we do. We know what the agenda looks
like. Are we first up on the agenda? >> Yes, >> we always are. Right. I hope so. >> Yeah, because you have to post the time. >> Yeah. Yeah. 6 o00 here. >> That's still the way it is. Okay, good. Cuz I said to him, "My god, we're doing it over here, right?" Because that's what I have on everything. Not thinking that downstairs is now
>> running. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got you. >> So maybe starting next year, we can be in that. >> Yeah. >> Warm room because the library is gone. >> Oh, the library area. >> So now it's the recording stuff. Everything is there. So we don't have to
come here. We can go downstairs. >> So when we're going to prime time? >> No, I don't think so. All right. I'm Yeah, >> I'm primed for that. >> Yeah, >> soon enough. >> You're getting there.
>> I'm fighting it. >> All right. Any more discussion on the tax rate classification? Okay. As usual, we have a large brow. >> I should have had the highway guys stay and they were decorating when I did.
>> I said I don't Yeah. >> Tell us their taxes are too. >> Yeah. H any correspond highway department getting an increase in budget. >> Any correspondence? >> No. >> Uh minutes. I have something to say about minutes.
>> Okay. >> Um so if you might have noticed uh I I sent you guys an email that said there was a duplicate sent out and I'll explain my confusion if you would hand me those. There's a mistake here.
Yeah, right here. October 8th form has under old business the discussion we had on 25th. Sorry. So that's why I thought it was the same one. >> Oh,
>> because I started started reading it. Oh, this is the same one. cuz I said um let's see Eric voted to approve the article >> held on November. This is this is correct, >> but this one is not because this one is the ETH.
>> Okay. >> And it's saying we had to discuss it on the ETH. >> Okay. >> Or they did discuss it on the ETH when I wasn't there. >> So you need to remove that. >> The problem was you weren't here. That's right. >> Yeah, that's right. Yep. >> We knew what we were doing.
>> We knew what we're doing. I was sick though. I was sick. >> Yeah, you were sick. You weren't doing too well. >> Okay. >> Unlike Nancy. >> It's probably where I got it from. >> Yeah. Right. >> So, it's the >> was delayed like a month and a half ago.
>> So, it's the eight that I have to take off. >> You have to take it off. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Did you want to approve? >> So, we're not doing executive right now, right? Um, this one here I would approve.
>> That can be approved with that correction. >> Okay, we can vote it that way. >> Yeah, >> I didn't bring my white. >> That would be You need a paint. >> Now, we discussed this. We discussed this before. I know. And I forgot. So, I
wasn't there. So, should I not abstain from voting on that? Cuz I have no idea what you guys did. Did you watch the meeting? >> Unless you get two, it doesn't matter, right? >> You don't have to be there. If for some reason all of us were no longer on the
board and a new board got these minutes, they could vote on them. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Um besides, it was your fault. >> Uh Mr. Chairman, I move that we accept the minutes of the regular meeting
October 8th, 2025. with the deletion of the article under old business that related to uh action taken at a different meeting relative to article 19.
>> I second that motion. >> Motion made in second. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? >> I >> I just print this up. Um Eric was the clerk. Yeah. Uh, Mr. Chairman, I move that we
approve the minutes of the regular meeting November 5th, 2025 as submitted. >> I second that motion. >> Motion second. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? >> I >> I All right, that's all the minutes. Do we
have an unanticipated item? >> I do. Um Oh, >> you do. >> The commitment for number six of the motor vehicle excise. >> Okay. Um, she just did it late yesterday. So, I just figured I instead of um amending again, I would just put
it until the unanticipated. >> I wasn't seeing anything. I'm like, this is ball blank 26. Chase that stupid thing down. 26. get smaller each uh the biggest one is
number one the motor vehicle commitments and then what is that I move that we approve and sign the commitment for
motor vehicle excise taxes number 25-06 in the amount of $26,767.79. >> I second that motion. >> Motion being seconded. Any discussion hearing? None. All in favor? >> I >> I
>> Are there any other unanticipated items? >> No. It um I don't know if we need to go into executive session. It would just be for these minutes because that other item I have nothing to it was just about following up.
>> So, let's do it so we can get the minutes out of the way before we take seconds. >> You're up, Eric. >> Um Oh, hang on a second. Here. I'm signing my name. Okay. I make a motion that we go into
executive session under general law chapter 30A section 21A7 to comply with or act under the authority of any special law or federal grant in aid requirements. >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded. Any
discussion? So we will not be returning to position. All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> Have a good day everybody.