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to open session. Um, and let's jump right into scheduled appointments. We have review, discuss, act, recommendation to appoint Jason Lords as a voting member to the conservation commission. >> Jason, here you >> hi. How are you?

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>> Good. Good. Okay. So, we have your letter of interest. Is there um any questions for Jason? >> No. >> All right. I don't either. Thank you again. Um is there any motions? >> Make a motion to approve. >> Is there a second? >> Second.

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>> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. Motion carries. Welcome. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Cheers. >> Thank you. >> See you guys. >> See you. Thank you. >> I don't have to go back to town hall to

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change anything, right? >> You will have to get sworn in. >> I'll have to do that again >> again. Yes. >> All right. No problem. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. [clears throat] >> Have a good day. >> All right. Let's get into announcements. [clears throat] >> You are invited for a community meet and greet.

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hosted by Leonard Hull at 620 Spring Street on Thursday, July 30th from 5:00 pm to 8:00 p.m. There will be guest speakers, live entertainment, barbecue, and refreshments. Learn about exciting developments at the historic mill. Employers at the mill complex will be

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taking applications for employment to fill current vacancies. The Dton's Lion Club Food Bank will be held on Saturday, August 15, 2026. Located at Town Hall at the Town Hall,

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979 Somerset Avenue, lower level. Rick Keller from Perfect Pastime is offering a communitywide collectibles free appraisal event on Saturday, August 29th from 10:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. at the

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Dyon Public Library. Call the library at 508-669-6421 to register for your free 10-minute time slot. All right, this is the first of two public inputs. Is there anyone here for public input?

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Miss Gulart, >> Nancy Gulot, 631 Great Terrace. I'm just here to say one more time, August 1st Handmass Jimmy Fun Bike Ride. Uh we would really appreciate the folks

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uh on Horton Williams Center Street all the way down over the bridge if they could to be out there waving and cheering and supporting on the riders. And if anyone wishes to volunteer or donate, just go to the PMC Jimmy website. [snorts] Thank you. Thanks, Nancy.

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>> Anyone else here for public input? Anyone on Zoom? >> Nobody. >> Great. Suckman's reports. >> No, it's not administrator report. >> Um, thank you. I think this is um I put

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in your packets um the storm water storm water res and divisions. I think this is a good opportunity for the town to look at uh to look at the storm water regulations and how we and how we execute it. Uh I

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know that there's been uh some comments and there's been comment from uh from the uh from the from the planning department as it as I um as I look at it. Um it's there's the storm water uh

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regulation is carried out seems like by several entities um the planning board conservation commission and border health and the storm water committee acting through uh acting through the board of health. I know recently uh there was a request uh to to move uh to

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move the storm water committee out of the board of health out of the board of health and and to the uh into the border selectment. And I think at this inflection point um it's a good opportunity for us to take a look uh to take a look at at how um how how that's

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how that's going to work. Um, can we make uh stormwater regulations [snorts] and the and the um and the execution of them and the enforcement of them um are they efficient as it is now? Can we make

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them uh can we make them more efficient? It's it's my intent, you know, to to reach out to the to reach out to the appropriate parties, including storm water committee planning uh uh concom um see um how we could how we could work

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through something. Can we does the our new can our new building commissioner take a more active active role in uh in storm water enforcement? Um, also I'm going to be reaching out to several uh several communities to see how they um

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how they um um conduct their uh conduct their store. You know, right now, as you see, um you know, before uh the change regulations uh be presented at a town meeting, uh the

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regulations continue to list. Before we present that, we're going to have to make a determination. Will it be the board or will be some um some other entity. Uh you know as as I read it and as I understand it in my recollection of

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storm water a lot of a lot of the regulations and as Nancy correct me are driven by here in Massachusetts by the EPA. So it's the federal right federal regulation I get that right? >> EPA has privacy with storm water in New

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Hampshire Massachusetts the only two states in the country. So um so I again I think um you know as as the as the updates are being presented before it's fully presented to

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town meaning this is a good opportunity uh for for us we need to take a look at it to present uh present to the board to you know make that determination [snorts] of you know how how it should go moving forward. Uh I know there's a

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the um the July memo stated um presented in the board from the planning board. Um it seems like a pretty good starting point. Um so we could you know we'll take it from there. I'm happy to discuss any of it and I asked uh a member uh as

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I went to the store committee yesterday just to inform them. U this will be before the board selectment and I know we have a member of storm water committee and a member of the planning board here this evening. So it's before us just as discussion. >> Just as Yeah, as discussion only. I have

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no determination at this point. Um I haven't put together a memo. I'd like to have the opportunity to start, you know, to start looking to see how other communities do it, how we can do it. Um and, you know, can we do it more efficiently? Do we have it now the way

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we do it now? Is it efficient? Are we serving uh are we are we serving the public? We're not getting rid of storm water regulations, >> right? We can't get rid of Stillmore. That's not the intent. Um the intent is to, you know, how do we again how do we

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um how do we efficiently enforce them? >> Have we been >> what precipitated this? Was it the planning board memo or was it some you were just reviewing? And >> I there's a Right. So there's, you know,

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um there's a few things. One of them was the initial planning board memo. Prior to that, uh there was I know the planning board has been working on on a flowchart. Uh but but I think um more

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more to the point um with the stormwater regulations uh there was a request from the storm water to to uh no longer be a part of the of the of the board of health to to be a part of to be a part of the board of selecting. So really

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that's you know everything else we can talk about but that's a big change um and and that needs to you know um if that change is going to go into the uh this uh the bylaws and regulations. So we have to make sure that's that's

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squared away first. So the really big move around it was like the border you know the stormwater committee the board board of health was looking to divest itself from the from the storm water committee. >> Okay. Did the so the storm water committee went to the board of health

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and that's what preissed this >> it it was the it was um it was that that is the final action which I know we had to we had to act on. >> Okay. All right. Did you have any questions? Um is there any

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um entity that it should be under? Um the well I what I'm familiar with is towns have have engineers pees who are who who it falls under you know it's it's you know to have it fall under the

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border have a you know to have a storm water committee is kind of it's unusual but Dyton is a small town and we don't have a we don't have a a town engineer so uh so that's one of the things I you know going to look at who how can

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um who can officially carry this >> and and why doesn't the board of health want to continue >> uh you know to find out they it's it's it's separate from what they do I know it's storm water is

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you know anecdotally I could tell storm water is is it's kind of complicated and I know they deal with other complicated things you know so it's it's and you know they were relying heavily they appear to have been relying heavily on the stor committee. >> Uh so so we just want to make sure

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[snorts] that it that it gets its proper due. >> Yeah. Well, I mean I whether the select have it or somebody else it's not going to go away. I don't want to go away and um I just think it's working now. Why are

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we upsetting the apple cart? >> Well, it was a request to remove it from the That's it. >> Health. So, and and then there's been um >> you know there's been some lapses in in when applications or we want to make

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sure applications that that people put forward are are are being handled properly in a timely fashion. >> So, it just needs a little tweaking. So, well, I think it's a good opportunity now for just to to take a look at it, you know, to make sure

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>> that, you know, that we, you know, that we're servicing, you know, the people who are coming come for us for storm water applications. >> That's um so the board of health, as I understand

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it, it just doesn't want it. they'd like to move it out from under them. But I'm I'm confused as to how the planning board fits into this. Do they have any authority over it or planning board has authority stormwater authority as it relates to commercial development?

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Conservation Commission has it [clears throat] as it as it relates to uh to residential development. So in communities that and um that have an engineer usually u what I've seen my

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experience with storm water is that the town engineer would sort of give a report to either Kcom or or or the planning board and and um to address the storm water issues. those issues would be put in conditions

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in the special permit and then and then um and then uh either the uh the town engineer or the building commissioner would would would enforce those would enforce those conditions. So I mean we have um we don't have a town engineer

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but we uh uh but we um use the services right now Weston Samson. So I think uh we just kind of want to you know the goal is to to make it you know to make it more efficient. >> So if it were to be moved under the

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board of health >> excuse me board of select excuse me from the board I'm I'm curious and concerned what could change if anything with the communication to with other permitting bodies. Yeah, I don't know. And that's

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why that's why I want to that's why I want to, you know, that's why I want to look into it. That's why I want to make sure, you know, the lines of, you know, lines of communication that we establish are >> it just can carry it. >> In what little time I had to kind of

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gather some sense of what was going on, it seemed like there were, I don't know, some emotions or personal feelings going on that driving parts of this. If if if that's the case and if the board of health is trying to push it out from under itself, then I think probably the

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selectman should take it because I don't want to see it, like Peter said, I don't want to see it uh disbanded or broken up. >> Well, regardless, storm water regulation will be in place. >> It's just a matter of how do we how do we what is the most efficient way to to

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carry out that enforcement? Unless I'm incorrect in in what I uh think I've learned, it seems like the the uh the Stonewater community has done a great job in terms of working with EPA and dealing with fines and and and

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avoiding additional fines. So, uh, I'd hate to see it, you know, it's it desperate pieces broken into, you know, the planning board and the concom has, right? So, there's there's already

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if you look at the regulations, you you'll see that it's right. there's a portion of it goes to goes to plan portion of it goes to conservation committee and a portion of it goes to the board of health you know >> that's what's being suggested or how it

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is >> that's what's in the current that's what's in in the current regulations so I think um what happens is the the the board of health um sort of has can give

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the authority to to um to to use the storm right to use the storm water committee. So what it is so again what we're trying to do is you know sort of create those efficiencies. We're not

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and again um I'm not I'm not here to you know to follow any agenda. We're at the point where we kind of have to look at it if is it is it being efficient like what we do with anything in town. It's right again we're at an inflection

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point. We're at the point where it's looking to again be removed from the board of health. Now what how does the board of selectman's office take it off? What do we need to do? Do we do we still um do we still operate through uh

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through the uh storm water committee? is uh I mean does is do we start utilizing the the building commission to make this happen? Do we do we move it over over to planning? What's the most efficient use

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of it? What you know what board uh uses it the most and we'll be able to to to um communicate effectively to the to the other boards to make that happen. He said we can't we just can't look at at the emotional part of it. We have to set

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that aside. We have to look at what's you know what's the most what's the most efficient way we could do this. And what I'm doing is presenting people to I'm not presenting anything at this moment. You know do we break it up? Does it go to the board of selectment? You know, I'm just saying that we need to take a

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look at it because we're at the point where, you know, again, it's it's the request was made to remove it from the board of health and the request and then we have uh revised to storm water storm water

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regulation. So regardless if it's not in the board of health if we just want to keep you know at the end you want to keep the status quo keep the status quo but I I think you know as anything um with town government we have to take a look you know and see um and see what

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works is this working is it efficient you know can we do we did we keep it as it is or do we move on uh on from it and and and create something Are there any have there any then any real suggestions

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about where to put it? Is that is that in this document? >> Uh there there were some um some suggestions from from the planning board memo. But I like to say, you know, um I would like to have an opportunity to sort of look into it so I can as your as

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your agent to look into it and present them, you know, present them all to you. [snorts] >> There's a lot more I'd like to know before >> Well, again, I it's we're not again I'm not I I'm presenting to you so we could

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start the process, right? So the the questions you have, you know, come bring them up to me and we could, you know, and this is not something or gentlemen, I'm suggesting we do this that that's where we're where

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uh I'm sorry, gentlemen, I'm asking, you know, can you can I look into this so I can present to you? That's where I'm at. >> [snorts] >> Did the board of health give us an official memo that they had a vote and a vote was taken and

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>> Yeah, I have to look. I think the vote was taken at one of their meetings. I have to double check >> because the planning board gave us a very nice memo. >> Yeah. >> And um I'm hearing that the went in front of the board of health and they took some action on it. But if they took action on an item that

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would go kind of change who the what the makeup is of that committee and how you know who it falls under that would that go back to the board of selectmen and for it to go back to the board of selectman they should draft us a memo. >> So I would I would say if if they didn't

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um I would ask that the board of health >> do that. >> Yeah that would be good. >> Yeah. So that's part of my discussion. I'd like to see that before we make any um any motions that they uh properly notify us if they haven't already.

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I don't think I saw anything. >> Yeah. And again, I'm not I'm not asking for any motions do anything other than >> absolutely. Is there any other boards that you recommend going in front of? Would you go in front of the conservation

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commission at all for this? >> I would I would I I begin with asking a lot of it will begin with how you know how is it working now? How are you finding it? How is it working for you?

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Um what how how can it be improved, you know, and that's how >> Okay. Any other comments? >> No. I'd like to get a sense or even a model of how it how it works, you know, for

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both a commercial and for a private property. What is the process? Where is the storm water committee involved? And and perhaps it's just something I need to learn the entire permanent process on these things. >> The the planning board memo kind of lays it out. Anybody

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I see the one recommendation I guess I got to spend more time in Is there anyone here tonight to speak to this issue? Nancy, is there anyone else here for that? [clears throat] >> Okay, so we have um Is there a motion to

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open up public input for this agenda item specifically? >> When is the next I make that motion? >> Yeah, that's fine. >> Okay, so we have a motion. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? I >> Motion carries. Okay, Nancy, I saw you

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here first. Nancy Pulat chairman Titan Stormwater Committee. Uh to answer some of the questions that that were mentioned here earlier know going through the whole history when I was first elected to the board selected we were the board of health. >> Mhm. And as you know, as time

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progressed, uh, town had gotten fine before I came by rags got written and the only changes that were made was we increased the lot size and I, um, included definitions for basins that I got off the EPA website. So, they've

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been what's there now is how they've been since 2009. >> Uh, selectman and board of health separated. In 2018, the chairman of the board of health sent a letter to the board of

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selectmen and the selectman at that time voted to uh grant the request that a storm water committee be created and that was uh it was January of 2018 and in that motion it actually named

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names but then what we said was we don't you shouldn't have names because they could change. So positions were named. So, seven positions were named and um the reason why the chairman of the board of health

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asked for the formation of the committee was because the clauses in the existing regggs bylaw for planning and conservation the enforcement was not done

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between I'm going to say 2009 when they were approved D um until that storm water committee was formed in 18. And the reason it was formed because there were a number of people that were going to the board of health complaining. They had water in

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their basement. They had water on their property. It was clear storm water was not enforced. Water Health was overwhelmed with a number of upset residents and quite frankly no solutions because once that happens I mean if it's been

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going on for years what is the town going to do? I mean there were threats of legal suit usual. So anyhow [clears throat] um the uh when they separated the selectman

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and the board of health the responsibility for storm water went with the board of health. board of health had a combination health agent, stom water agent who is a PE and when we had him in our employee,

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[snorts] it worked wonderfully because he knew exactly what the regs were. He went out and did the inspections. He provided information for the MS4. I should also add that while I was not a selectman, I was back in the fin.

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I was still the person filing MS force for the on behalf of the town working Tom Ferry and and other departments that could provide information. So, um it was all working fine until we lost our PE,

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our storm water agent. Uh and then uh recognizing the need for engineering services, we had a meeting and I know Peter was there but uh chairman of the main boards committees commissions and I asked that Tom Ferry be included because he needs engineering services at times.

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So we were all there. We went through the the process. We got it down to three engineering firms. We interviewed him and we unanimously voted leon at Samson. So that was working. Okay. Also, in the

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meantime, excuse me, COVID came and APA grant money became available. And when Mike Mullen told me about it, I said, "Mike, can you get me grant money to update the storm water rigs and bylaw because I know they have to be done

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because the EPA had notified us that the section about post construction runoff control that we adopted from Mass D along with 50% of the other communities in the state were in violation of the

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federal law because the state never updated those ranks. And when we adopted them, we just continued the era. [snorts] So, um, Mike worked on getting us OPA money and we had the approval and then it had

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to go back to the county again because they decided they needed more information. Bottom line is we got $45,000 and that money is will be finished up before the September, which is the deadline to spend the money or lose it.

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The money has been spent on outflow testing, mapping of the town's storm water system. A lot of it obviously is the north end because that's the oldest part. Um

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so the entire system is being mapped and they have done the testing that's under APA. They gave us a report which we filed with the EPA along with our MS4 last year. So that was good. In the meantime, I've been communicating

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with the EPA telling them please don't find us. Don't issue administrative letters. We do have an application for an OPA grant. It's taken longer than anticipated. It has to go through the county, but they haven't said no and

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we're keeping going. So, I if you watch May storm water meeting, you're going to hear the engineer from Weston and Samson talk about that. And in fact, uh we did buy time. So, the status of the bylaw and regs right

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now, uh the engineer from Weston and Samson has got them into a draft. She sent us the bylaw breaks with all the track changes, but if you know you look at those, it's a nightmare to try to read them. So, she actually put them in the form. The only thing that's in there

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right now is reporting authority, and I will touch on board of health in a minute. Right now, it says board of health because I said to her, uh, Jerice, we can't change that because the board of health has asked the board of selectment to separate the storm water committee from them. And if

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we're going to be under the board of selectment, it's got to say that. So I got feedback from the chairman of the planning board. I got feedback from a member of the planning board. Actually discussed it. Uh and um incorporated for

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the most part. Um the chamber was in agreement with what had been prepared. Um so anyhow, we have all that ready. It's not a matter of going back and going through bylaws. What it is is once you make a decision about the status of

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the stormwater committee, if it's going to change, I'll get those documents updated. Uh if there were any other requests uh before, I'll get them out to you. There's still time for you to look at them. Anybody

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can look at them. Um and we can update the information. Everything worked fine with the board of health being uh us being a subcommittee of the board of health until we lost the storm water agent.

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>> Right. So at that point in time, the new chairman of the board of health didn't want anything to do with storm water. Didn't feel that it was a health issue or anything else. We continued to do what we had to do and the only thing the board of health had to do was sign off on storm water

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permits that we had to issue. not what uh planning might have issued. Okay. So, uh when the track when the when the revised regs bylaw came out with the

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track changes and all that, uh I I emailed out copies to a litany of people including the board of health and they put it on the agenda to discuss it. So Tom and I went to one of their meetings and uh the two gentlemen

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uh both said we looked at all that information and to tell you the truth we don't have a clue. This is not something we're familiar with. [clears throat] U and again if you're looking at something with track changes and red writing and all that difficult

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but even with the summary if you're not familiar with it it's hard to make a decision on where do we go from here. So when Mike Mullen was here and we had problems with the uh board of health with the chairman saying we don't want anything to do with you guys. Um I had

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said to Mike we need to look at separating them and putting us under the board of selectment just like the concom. Now somebody has misconred words that I have said. Yes I have said and I will say it repeatedly. The storm water

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committee reports to the EPA. The rest of that sentence is through the MS4. Whether we're a subcommittee of the board of health or we're a standalone committee appointed by the board of selectment. There's only two kinds of committees or boards. You're either

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elected or appointed. And if you're appointed, you are under the control of the board of selectment. So when the board of health really wasn't dealing with us technically uh on the like we do at MS4 that kind of

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reporting anything that comes up from EPA yes we handle it we deal with it we're representing the town of Dyton and as the executive board the current board we're under the board because you appoint us even though we were a subcommittee of the board of health

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you're the appointing authority now I believe what we The first thing we need to do is not the regs, not the bylaw. That's in good shape because we've had an engineer working on it. We need the

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board selectman to determine if they would grant that request. when Tom and I were at that meeting and the the two gentlemen said, "We've looked at this and quite frankly, we don't understand it and we think it would be beneficial

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if it were under the board of selectment." Now, o over the years with the changes in the membership on the board of selectmen, and this is not a criticism, they probably had no idea what that was about either in detail, but the b the bottom line is and the

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history is storm water committee and I'm not crowing pat myself on the back has done an exceptional job with the resources we have even when we lost our if you will in-house PE.

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Uh the biggest problem we have right now uh is interference in enforcement and I'm not going to go into that in detail but if any of you ask me I can give you specific details. Uh interference that is causing

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violations with the existing bylaws and the enforcement section in the bylaws is not going to change. So, what I'm here to ask tonight is that you think about this, but we've got to

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get the bylaw and regs into some kind of draft form, which means we need to know how you're going to respond to uh the um reporting, I'll put it reporting authority of the storm water committee.

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Whether you leave us with border health are you it's border selectment right now um the because once once I have that answer and make those changes there'll

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be another round of here they come again and everyone will have a chance to look at them and input them any any feedback um the work that the engineer is doing under

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the opa money her work is pretty much complete with the exception of the answer to that question. Okay. Um we have not uh we I have not gotten negative feedback from anybody

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prior to the town meeting in June. Okay. So that's what I'm looking for is quite frankly guidance from board of selectment so that either those references get changed to the board of selectment or they stay where they are.

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Um the uh incorporation of what I received prior to town meeting has been done and it was agreed upon by uh those who submitted it. Um the uh

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the EPA is actually cited and I don't mean bad cited I mean recognized way back when in 2018 when the board of selectment created and appointed members to serve on the storm water committee because the they said this is a unique

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way to handle storm water. Well, when you don't have the resources, we don't have town planners and engineers and all that other stuff. And some towns dump it all in the highway department. Well, I think our highway superintendent's got more than enough to do. And uh and he's

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very involved in storm water. But the EPA really recognized us for a great way of handling storm water. Um and they've mentioned it at meetings and I know one town not too

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far from here, a large community who has all sorts of staff, professional staff, uh has a stormwater committee. All right? And I'm not sure it's seven, eight or nine people, but certainly uh engineers and planners and

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and super highway and all of the key players. So, >> would you mind sharing what town that is? >> Middleboro. >> Middleboro. >> Yeah. If you just Google Middleboro Stormwater Committee, you're going to see names and and um titles. Um the up

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until probably I think it was just before COVID the storm water committee didn't did not have a separate budget. So when we got ready to do the MS4, it runs July 1 to June 30th like the fiscal

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year. I would have to sit with Tommy and say, "Give me a rough estimate of how much money was spent from your budget for storm water." And I don't remember which town accountant it was because we've had a few, but we decided to set

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up a storm water budget. And that's why when you discuss Tommy's budget, highway department, the storm water is sort of the next item you got to talk to because the the salaries for his work is some of his uh

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uh salary um some of the salary for the office manager who would go to our meetings, take minutes and that kind of stuff. Help me with the calendar or the public events. we would we now we had a budget that we truly could show how this was done. Before that we did our best

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guess on allocation. So we have a budget uh we stay within our budget. Um you see that budget you know that there's we're not spending money on lots of I'll call it professional staff.

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The expense that occurs for engineering services as part of that meeting we had when Weston and Samson was selected was that the project or property owner whoever owned the project was

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responsible for engineering services. So there's a process in place. If we need something we request a proposal they write the proposal. it goes to the uh project owner manager and they're asked

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to fund it. Uh so far we've only had one refused to fund it and that's because of interference. Uh again I'm not going into that in detail but >> Nancy when you say interference you're talking about from other entities within the town

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>> within the town of Don or individuals. All right. Two, I have no problem with making further revisions to the storm water bylaw and regs. As I said, all of the ones that have been talked to me about

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and has agreed upon are in there. If there are now regs that somebody wants to insert, first of all, I would like to see them in writing. Uh I was not aware that this was going to be the topic tonight in the detail that we're having

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it. [clears throat] [snorts] Uh as Ralph said, he came to the stormwater meeting yesterday and informed us that this discussion would take place. Prior to that, I had asked him when the board was going to act on the request of the board of health and

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he said probably the second meeting in July. So we're here tonight. That's what I thought it was all about. Um, I saw the first uh letter that was written was at the the uh planning board meeting

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when that was read in summary and it was pointed out that was not from the planning board. My opinion put it in the garbage. I understand now there's a second letter memo something which I haven't seen. So to be discussing anything about changes

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in bylaw regs or anything else, it's kind of premature. The first discussion should occur with the storm water committee. Now I also realize we're dealing with elected boards and appointed boards. Stormwater is appointed. That doesn't

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mean that what we do is not as important as what elected boards do. But we are appointed by the board of selectmen. That's got to count for something. Um

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the enforcement has gone very well up until very recently. Um I feel very comfortable where we are with the EPA. And if you happen to catch that uh May storm water meeting, you

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will hear the engineers say, "Yes, there are things we have to do. We're reporting on year eight on a 10-year notice of intent. Got two years to try to do all the stuff that's still left hanging. And I said to

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her when she gave me an estimate, you're going to prioritize these because there's no way we have money to do this. But in communicating with the EPA, I will let them know where we are. I will let them know what we're working on. I will let them know that yes, we have the

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beginning of a storm water management plan. Yes, we have beginning of a uh elicit discharge plan. Are they complete? No, they're not. Simply because with the staff we have, you got

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to keep all these things going and you we also had all those big solar farms come in and I know you know there was one that was like it was never going to be up and running. Finally get that one done. But the amount of time spent

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working on things like that, but again, I have been honest with the EPA and what she says at that meeting is because because you've been honest with them. Um, they know you're trying. There are other communities that they issue uh I think they call them administrative

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letters. I think that's before they find them, but I don't know. I don't want administrative letters. I don't want fines. Um, we have credibility. Dyon has credibility with the EPA. There is no

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question in my mind. And I also believe we don't get special treatment. But they recognize that once Dyon was fined. There was an allout effort so that it wouldn't happen again. So anyhow, um if once you make your

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decision whenever that is and the bylaw rags will either stay the way they are or they will be updated. Um we will put that in, send it out again and again another round of does anyone have

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comments, questions. Um the anything that's submitted will be uh discussed by the um um stormwater committee. Um I think the main thing is if you don't know the history of how this whole

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thing occurred going back to when you were board of selectment board of health or we were ancient times and know how this evolved. I think any criticism about the structure that has evolved or

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it's not in the bylaw so you can't do it any vote of the board of selectmen in the best interest of the town in running that program or any other program doesn't require a bylaw change.

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Okay. So, um I'm here in bits and pieces. I would like a copy of whatever the latest um communication was. Um, I am cautioning everybody. Please

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don't break up the storm water committee and say this one's going to do that and this one's going to do that and she can still do the MS4 simply because when you break up those duties, we have history. It doesn't

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work. And the thing is, ws change all the time. So I thank the board of health for saying we think the best solution is this. There is one item that they usually vote on to wave and early on

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before the town meeting I talked to the chairman of the planning board that has been incorporated into a change they're going to be proposing which we support. Um, so if that passes and if storm water goes into board of health, the board of

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health will not have to deal with storm water issues. Anything that comes up will be directly related to keeping the board of selectment, the town administrator, anybody else that has to be involved

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um with reports to the annual reports to the EPA. Um but um I I just think there's a lot of information that you're not aware of. Um I was at the meeting when there was a summary discussed of that first memo. Um

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and before it was read, uh the chairman made it clear there will be no public input. So I just sat there and listened to it. Um but in any case, um it it's it's a big decision. I think the board of health would be very happy uh if we stay with the board

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of health in all honesty. We we really the only thing we'll be doing with them is please sign this storm water permit for and those are small projects. These are not solar farms or housing develops. We we don't do those kind of permitting that goes to

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planning. Uh we do work closely with Con simply because if there are wetland violations, there's probably storm water violations. Uh in all the years we've done this, we've only issued we jointly uh concom

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issued one stock work order and it was immediate and that was because the violations were so bad there was no way you could allow them to continue. when this was on the biggest solar farm that we have and it shut him down uh for

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several months and um but they did what they had to do to correct the errors um hired a wetland scientist which was through the end of the project that's a lot of money but uh they did what they had to do um but in any case um that's

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where I'm coming from as far as storm water. Uh you have any questions, I will answer them. If you have questions uh singly that you want me to answer, I will do that. Um but um I'm more

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concerned about potential damage to what we have and I don't want to see that happen going for happen going forward. No town administrator, including or else has expressed interest in what the storm

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water committee does. All right? And and I've made it clear, hey, I'm chairman of the storm water committee and da da da da. And you're welcome to come to our meetings and pasts have come to a couple. Uh and in the case of Mike Mullen, uh when we had a situation with

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that involved the segregans river in the city of Taton, he was right there with us. Uh other than that, um we just cooperate, keep them in the loop, let them know what's going on, let them know, as in the case of that segregated

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dance at River episode, we needed help. uh and with the chairman of the board of selectman um and uh Tom Ferry and Jim Aguia Todd Pilling we were able to get that all resolved at the lowest level possible and we didn't end up in court

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and um I mean that was something to be proud of but again if you have any questions just let me know and uh if you want to speak to me uh individually that's fine too. >> So they will just take everything under advisement individual. Thank you, Mr.

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Higgins. You're up next. >> You can be next, buddy. >> Dan Higgins, my vice chair of the planning board. >> Um, there is, you were talking about what precipitated this. So obviously the issue that the board of health board of

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selectment board perfect sense too was initial but separate from that was the um new state guidelines around solar farms. So on October 1st, [clears throat] it's not very far away,

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the town will be required that they can no longer give different committees thumbs up or thumbs down on solar farm. Town as a whole has to give a yay or nay. So organizationally, all the committees have to figure out

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between now and October 1st how we're going to do this so that we have one spokesperson. All of our decisions feed into a central point and then the solar farm gets instead of concoming yes, planning saying no or vice versa or storm water

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having a different opinion, they just get yes or no period. This is your answer from the town. All the bylaws stay the same. All the committees um um authorities stay the same. Just organizationally there's a lot of things

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that have to change. So that was also a precipitator for um the planning board's memo and part of that and Nancy spoke about um um issues from another board. I think she's referring to the planning board because there is not there is ambiguity

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in the storm water regulations about who is author whose authority is covers certain areas. Um and she has Nancy and the stormwater committee certainly has an opinion. The planning board looks at it and says this is definitely the planning board's decision and there was

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a point where planning board said this is okay. Smart said we don't like that. PL said that's too bad. It's our decision. That's this is okay. Um, and I don't want to get into the details of that one point, but that just lends to

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what's going to happen between now and October 1st when we have to have one decision that the town makes and we don't even and we have ambiguity about what is the actual authority of the different committees. Um, and I think that's in part because of simply the way

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the um, not the bylaw because the bylaw is just very blanket. It just says basically board of health has authority. It's this the rules and regulations which go back to 2009 [clears throat] that even in a review with West Samson

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it said like you need to clean this up. This is just contiguous. It just they're gaps here. Um and some of those gaps are you know um examples like that. We also have um issues with people threatening

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suits against the town because they feel like they're being jerked around. um it's all because of ambiguity about who has authority and if the decision by one is binding and it's not binding um and that sort of thing. So the letter from the planning board

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was really a recommendation of what would work going forward. It pretty much keeps what it is now. Planning has authority for commercial, conservation has authority for residential, uh storm water has authority for the others. Um there are some comments about

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like how to break it up. It's purely a recommendation. Um and it's all geared towards an eye towards um how can the town have a consolidated permitting process that is smooth and functional and that we can get to by October 31st

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by October 1st I should say. So um I don't think it this is personal. It's it is conflicts between the boards though. Definitely is conflicts between the boards and trying to figure out who has authority to do what and um

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you know being able to um to iron that out in a very short time frame. >> Thanks. >> Thank you. >> Thanks Mr. Woods. >> Robert Woods 158 Street. And um the first thing I like to say is I think we

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should put u principles ahead of personalities. And you know over the years I've been a member of storm water committee on several I think I've done several tours I'll call it on the storm water um representing the planning board

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and I see the value in it. Um storm water itself is important for the environment. uh storm water protection is a responsibility of the town of Dyton or any other city or town. Um and I represented that and so does the storm

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water committee. Um and it's an important part of you know everyday life in America today. Um taking care of our natural resources. But um yesterday I went to the board of health meeting too because I saw it on their agenda and you know the board of

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health is a fairly new members on that board of health and they're doing a fantastic job. They're a little overwhelmed with all their responsibilities and the requirements that they have to follow. And you know, over the years that I've been involved in Stormwater, I've been involved in the

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town of Tyton, you know, I'll go back I I forget exactly how many years, but we we had another conflict of personalities. And sometimes it boils down to certain developers or land owners who are not happy with the decisions that are made,

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not necessarily by the stormwater committee or by the planning board or the ZBA, but you know, when it's costing people money, they tend to get a little excited and they complain. And um you know there was a short period of time

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where storm water meetings were lasting quite a while and you have different different representatives from different boards and committees you know someone from concoming someone from

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uh the highway the list goes on. I think there's how many members Nancy? >> Seven. >> Seven members. So, you [clears throat] know, I would have to say in the last five or five years, you know, we usually wrap the meetings up in an hour, hour and a half, and I can't tell you how

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many times that it's been beneficial. Um, where developers like uh Dora Estates and Taton was encroaching on our wells. you know, if it wasn't for the stormwater committee and the members on there, things could have happened. Um, with the different solar farms that

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we've had to deal with over the years, if it wasn't for the storm water committee, who knows what would have happened. So, I do agree that it would take a bylaw change to put storm water underneath the border uh selectment

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and and to me my personal opinion is that's a good idea because the board of health is overwhelmed. And I'm not saying they're overwhelmed, but they have enough to do. You know, they have a new staff. Their office manager is now covering multiple departments. The

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town's in pretty bad financial shape. But they're trying to make best with what we have. And it's a resource to have volunteers like we have. Nobody paid on the storm committee. They do it

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because that's what they do. And just to disband it because maybe somebody didn't like it or we ruffled somebody's feathers. I'm not saying that happened, but you know, uh, if you want to meet an executive session, I could probably tell you some things I wouldn't say from this

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podium regarding storm water and, uh, other things. But overall, storm water committee is a great committee for this town, and I'll leave it at that. Thank you.

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>> [clears throat] >> Good evening. Lennard Hall, 760 Main Street in a somewhat awkward position. I serve on the planning board and so but ultimately the responsibility

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rests on the board of select leadership of this support. You've heard and I'm not going to rehash the letters or the letter that I sent to you about the pros and the needs. But

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ultimately all that information that you have received, you are going to be the ones responsible for making the decision of what works best for the town, what other needs of the town and which

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department can best meet those particular needs. Whether it be educating the community about the different aspects of storm water or conservation or whether it be the MS4

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report or whether it be enforcement in a timely fashion. When I served on the board, we interviewed 12 engineering firms and by far Wesson and Samson was the best was

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clear. So we know we have a good engineering firm but we also have a timeliness and response which we got used to having an individual with a PE who would respond

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immediately to a problem. We don't have that anymore. Question is how does the board with limited resources decide how that is going to be handled? Ultimately, it comes down to

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coordination and communication. And looking at this from both sides, that's the biggest need. Better communication and better coordination of services in a timely way. Three years

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ago, I voted to approve Permalink and I understand that's still not up and running. and that was to create a timely and transparent

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permitting process. You heard Mr. Gula allude to some interference. Pack meetings are open meetings. They are supposed to be hosted

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and all parties should be invited. I'm not pointing fingers, but I'll leave you with a question for you to answer. Are all members that's supposed to be part of the pack meetings being invited

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to attend those pack meetings? I'll leave you with this thought. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water. There are some wonderful things that Storm Water does and that you're going to still continue to need that service

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as you go forward. >> Anyone else here? >> Hi, the War 1835 Smith Street. Um, first of all, I'd like I don't know if it's a question or not, but I heard something that I didn't agree with from the town administrator that the current

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uh operation of the storm water uh responsibilities are spread throughout departments throughout the town. Is that what I heard? I I stated that storm water storm water planning handles the commercial aspect

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of it concom and concom residential and then the rest is on the board of health. So according to our bylaws the board of health shall administer implement and enforce this bylaw. The

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board of health may delegate any powers granted to a duties imposed upon board of health in writing to its employees or agents. Further down enforcement the board of health an authorized agent of the board of health shall enforce this bylaw

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regulation orders violation notices etc etc. According to our bylaws, the board of health has the exclusive authority to coordinate storm water issues. And if we're doing it differently, then there's

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a problem. We need to change the bylaw before we can start moving it to other places. Now, the suggestions coming from the letter today are saying, "Oh, we're supposed to, you know, move this under the board of selectment." I submit to you that the board of selectment does not have the authority to move the storm

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water committee to under the board of selectment because it's under the board of health by bylaw. If you want to change that, you need to go make a bylaw change which goes in front of town meeting, not in front of this board. Now, regarding the storm water committee

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itself, I've never heard anything bad about the storm water committee. I've only heard good things and good results coming out of it. Nancy here has worked tirelessly. I mean, the the the benefit she provides

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to this town free is enormous and she does a fabulous job along with the rest of the committee in managing storm water issues. Where's the complaint? Who's complaining? What's the problem? What are we trying to fix here? Now, my

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understanding is we've got a letter coming in. I find the timing to be quite suspicious when the planning board puts forward two very ill- advised warrant articles at town meeting and Nancy correctly shuts

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them down. Now, all of a sudden, a week later, there's a letter that went out asking to disband the storm water committee. I'm talking about the first letter. You all saw the first letter. Now, there's a second letter. It's toned down a little bit, but it still sounds a lot like sour grapes to me. It sounds

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like some political bickering going on. You've heard everyone else tonight, and I think I agree with about 90% of what everybody else said here tonight. The storm water committee is awesome. They're doing a great job. Don't change it. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.

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>> Any other comments? Okay. Um motion to is there a motion to close public input for this topic? >> I'll make that motion. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I motion carries. So in hearing the comments um what is my colleagues

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thoughts on if we have any questions for Ralph we get those to Ralph in the next week and in no less than 30 days we have this back on an agenda for discussion. Is that amenable to everybody? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Great. So, um, since there's no

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motion required here, that's that's what we'll do. Um, question to Ralph ASAP and we'll discuss this again in 30 days. Um, all right, moving on. Old business review, discuss. Is there any other comments on that before we move on

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from my colleagues? >> No. Okay. Um, moving on. review, discuss, act, reappoint of Mary Beth Bublio as tobacco control enforcement agent. Um, I have a feeling that she might have been here um in

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>> Well, this is um with this situation, I know the board usually appoints people. He has been uh he has been the tobacco control enforcement agent. Um when um when Leanne put the uh

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put the list together, she thought it was a two-year appointment. So she didn't think it was uh occurring. This the reappoint is happening this year. So um to make that correction, it is an annual it is an annual appointment again uh names as at the end uh at the end of

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this year the names are presented to the board. So So it's not a it's not a new appointment. Okay. Any questions on that? >> No. >> Any motions? >> I'll make a motion to reappoint. Very good. >> Is there a second?

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>> Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. Motion carries. [clears throat] New business. Ratification of health agent memorandum of agreement. So, we discussed that in executive session. Is there any motions to rat ratify as we

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discuss? I >> make a motion to change the health management MOA. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. >> I. Motion carries. 0 Pleasant Street, parcel ID 024.0-0022-005.0.

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Uh we discuss whether to sell that property or retain it. >> Make a motion to retain that property. >> Okay. Is there a second? >> A second. >> Any um further discussion? All in favor? I >> I motion carries.

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>> Okay. Next we have a resignation of Stephanie Shector, our town assessor. Will be will be resigning from her from her position. Um maybe not. Um motion to accept your letter.

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>> Is there a second? >> I second. >> Any discussion? I um just want to thank Stephanie for her dedicated service to the town of Bean and I wish her well. All in favor? >> I motion carries. Now we have a um

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town/principal assessor job description and posting >> in conjunction with with Stephanie's resation. Um I think everyone here recognizes the fact that the assessor position is a key role to the town um in determining value but also as a member

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of the financial team. Um what I would like to do is uh to post this as as soon as possible. So before you is the job description of what was once the town assessment principal assessment uh and

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and the job description. So uh Karen and I uh put together uh put together the job description. We forwarded it uh to um uh to the board of assessors for their review. Um they had their meeting

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today and um they had the uh they voted to to move it forward to select. Um the process with the uh with with selecting the new assessor that falls under the authority of the uh processors.

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>> I saw some comments about putting the salary on there. Did the board agree? >> Yeah, we have a we do have we didn't see the salary range. So, um that is now on there. >> Okay. >> We did a confirmation of salary range

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and and and hours of work amongst a few other things. Awesome. Any questions? >> Um, we will get to you. I just want to make sure my colleagues have any questions first.

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>> No questions. >> Is the inclusion on the salary does it have anything to do with the recent changes in state laws for posting salaries or is it just >> Yeah, we post salaries. Yeah, >> just a a quick question. It sounds to me

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like you don't have the latest version. So Ralph, there was another change that was made. Are they aware of it? >> Uh we did give them the latest version of it. Which which James are you? >> Oh, so so Mark just said uh there was no salary attached.

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>> Oh yeah. No, the new one. You should have it should be in the >> I just want to make sure that version they got is the version we agreed to this morning. That's >> I just saw the discussion not to put salary and then I saw the salary here. I just want to make sure everyone's happy with salary being posted.

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>> Thank you. Thank you. All right. Any uh motions on the on the floor? >> I'll make that motion to oppose the job description. >> Is there a second? >> A second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. Motion carries. So, we have a facilities request for

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Hunter Hill meeting in old town hall. They request to wave uh the fees, I believe. Right. >> There's a request to wave the insurance. Um this is the third room in a row that the um Hunters Hill is um is using um

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using Oldtown Bford as a meeting place in previous years that it has it has been waved. It's a one-hour meeting for the residents of Hunter Hill. Um they don't have a clubhouse yet to have uh to have that meeting. So they're looking to

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have it here. They did um they did the $100 fee, >> right? >> I make a motion to approve the facilities request from second. >> I'll second. Any discussion?

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>> Quick question. Just curiosity. Can you tell me where Huntington's Hill is home trust? >> It's it's I think it started off I don't know if it still is the 55 and older. 55 and >> older development. So that's

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>> all right. All in favor? >> I >> I motion carries. Next we have approval of the warrants. Warrant is paid by June 16th, 2026 30 uh 3A-2721,785.79 3B-2728,35623. Warrants paid by July 23rd 2026 4

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A-2722,3768 and 4B-27283,7.72. >> We have a motion. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? [snorts] >> I. Motion carries. Approval of the minutes. Uh, I make a motion to approve the uh

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regular session meeting minutes for June 10th of 2026 and um June 24th of 2026. >> All right, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I >> I motion carries. This is our last public input. Is there anybody here? All

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right, Mr. Woods. >> Absolutely. >> Be up here all night. >> [laughter] >> No, I got a couple things I'd like to um bring before the board. Um I talked to Ralph about a couple of them yesterday,

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but um I'm disappointed with the community garden. I don't know what's going on over there. I don't see anything growing again but weeds. >> So, we do a good job at weed growing. >> Well, you know, everybody's growing weed nowadays,

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[laughter] >> but that's a whole thing. Um, but anyway, no, and and the other thing I noticed is there's a porta john over there. I I don't know why it's there. Um, but there's not one at the boat ramp. And there was always one at

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the boat ramp. There used to be one on the north north titan field, but there's not a port join there this year either. Um, but I think it's real important that someone moves that portage on to the boat ramp because I don't know if you've been on boats, but the first thing you do when you come off a boat is want to

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use the bathroom. Okay? And people have been peeing in the bushes down there and there are other people, the public sitting in their cars, but when you got to go, you got to go. Um, and I really don't know what's going on with Park and Wreck. And I'm not here to bash them,

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but they haven't had a meeting since I think March. their minutes haven't been posted. Um the last minutes of their meeting they were discussing the Timothy Ryan's playground and um a couple of residents have asked me about it and what's going on and when

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they're going to have the dedication to that. Um that's about it. Uh you know I would really appreciate it if somebody could look into moving a John to the boat ramp at least.

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uh find out what's going on with the community garden. Uh I know an organization in town that all was was trying to take it over and they were pushed aside last year. So this year the season's already gone by.

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I think someone really and they put so much into it made it handicap accessible and you know I don't see anybody over there. >> Okay, that's all I have. Thank you, Mr. Holland. On a lighter note, I'd like [clears throat] to take this opportunity

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on behalf of William Rivero and Bill Camar to invite Mr. Mataka, members of the board of selectmen to their open house and meet and greet on July 30th from 5 to 8:00

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p.m. at the park across from Spring Street entrance to the mill complex. The input by the different boards in this town is

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something that they strongly welcome. I know Mr. Pinko had the opportunity to meet with them and that and Mr. attacker as well. And that input was huge in helping them make a decision that

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otherwise would have cost them a lot of money going through the permitting process. There was another decision that they uh took on a more positive note

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and that had to do with something I think once you see the video of their dream for that complex you will fully understand what they're trying to accomplish. And that was the

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desire to put in a park rather than housing on the side adjacent to the um bird sanctuary and the um heron trout

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ladder that's there. um they are looking to work closely with town officials to provide something that works for them but also works for the town because ultimately their success is

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Dyton's success and they want to work together with both residents especially in the village and the community leaders. So that would be July 30th from 5 to 8:00 PM. Uh we will

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have a speaking part of the program and [clears throat] we're asking that a member of the board to speak and as well as town administrator now he will be on the agenda. Um we have invited state

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officials to attend. We've heard back from our state senator. she will be there and representative uh Justin Thurber will be there as well. We have not heard back from the governor's office or all our

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Jake did attend four years ago when the previous owner had a a meeting. We are going to have entertainment and possibly food. I say possibly because we got to make sure the

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board of health is on board with that. >> Hope to see you there. >> Just uh one followup to Lenny's comment. I I did meet with Bill Kamar and I did make it very clear to Bill that I any feedback I gave was as one member and I was not representing the board of

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selectment in any capacity. Um I was simply one member's uh opinion. You weren't the only town official who voiced his opinion and the other town official is extremely important in that

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permitting process. >> You. >> No, [laughter] I'm trying not to mention the name, but it's the fire chief. >> Okay. >> Okay. Um and that's was huge. >> Very good. >> And that's why they're looking now to go

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with a call center. which will have less resistance which means the savings on their part and it also prevents long nights for all the people that have to hear the proposal and then after hours of review

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show shoot it down. >> Absolutely. Very good. Thank you. >> It's win-win for everybody. >> Yes. [clears throat] Thank you, Nancy. >> I'm gonna ask my colleague, Mr. Moore, to come up here. Oh, >> I have no idea what she's up to. So,

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>> but you you still come up willingly. Very nice. >> You must say um Lenny made me think of something. I just want you all to know that relative to 620 Spring Street. Yes, that is considered industrial commercial and

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normally storm water committee would not be involved because they're not disturbing more than 35,000 square feet. However, uh Japs did attend the meeting yesterday at the invitation of Tom Ferry and the reason that he met with us is

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because there is a storm water line that needs to have two catch basins installed. Most of that line belongs to the town of Dyton. But like most things in the north

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end, there are lines that are privately owned going back to when the village in effect was built and when storm water and sewage all went into the river. Now we have that separate. So anyhow, um we we reviewed

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the whole thing. It's really interesting. He talked a little bit about what they're planning. Uh the stormwater committee tenatively approved the work on installation of the basins. Obviously Tom's going to oversee it and

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uh tenatively approved it um contingent on an approval by the planning board. Uh Concom's going to look at it. It may not affect them, but any other board that has to weigh in on this. But I just wanted you to know if you hear that the

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storm water committee is sticking their nose into something that is the reason and it's got nothing to do with uh the project itself. It's just that they want to use the town lines and Tommy wanted the stormwater committee to vote to allow them to do it assuming the other

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boards approve everything else. Okay. The reason I asked my colleague to come up in he's standing here wondering. Uh I'm sure he's going to want to say something. I always do. [laughter] >> I wanted to just publicly state

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uh sincere appreciation to Stephanie Shear for coming in um as the uh principal assessor. Um she had worked here before, went to another town and came back. Um and

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during that transition as coming back and being the principal assessor, um she did have some time with the assessor who was in in effect retiring. Um and unfortunately she passed away shortly thereafter. So Stephanie had to pretty

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much be on her own. Uh I think she's done a very good job. uh she's um certainly assumed the responsibility and uh I'm going to miss her and I think it's a loss to the town, but I absolutely I understand. I wish you well

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and [clears throat] uh I just wanted to state that publicly. >> I concur. Well said, Mr. >> I concur with pretty much everything you said. >> [snorts] >> Um I I think there's a stated reason why

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she's leaving and I think there's you know the workload has seriously increased over there. So that's a strong reason why she has to leave. Um this person coming in is it's going to be a difficult job. Um she has handled it

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well. Uh we've worked together. I've told I think I've told you guys before that if you if you're ever bored, watch a board of assessors meeting. put you right to sleep. Um, [clears throat] but we we we perform very well. You know, it's we we get along. There's, you know,

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once I think after like what, a month or two, Nancy, >> you were the only problem. >> Well, she once she realized I'm not a problem, you know, we get along fine and and Stephanie's part of that. U you know, if you ever [clears throat] see it, you know, we work together very well and she she's always uh taken our

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advice, done the things we've needed her to do and uh yeah, she would be missed. The hardest job is trying to reign in my two cohorts because I have to remind them we don't have levity at the board of assessments. We have le [laughter]

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>> and levity. >> Mr. Chairman, I have a a little burn of desire. No, >> you're the I know, but I'm here now. I'm here. I'm here. Okay. And I don't plan on coming back. I don't I don't plan on coming back till at least September.

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Uh, and I I meant to say this when I was up here. Um, but when I talked about uh Timothy Ryan, it threw me off because I miss him dearly. That being said, I'd like to talk about the speed limit [clears throat] that uh

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there was a gentleman in here the last meeting talking about the speed on Lincoln Avenue and I noticed that the police had put one of those uh radar signs, you know, it shows you how fast you're going. But before that, I was thinking about it,

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you know, and I understand because I live in the village and I understand where that gentleman lives and, you know, he was sincere about it and I was thinking about it and I I I'm sorry I'm going to linger here for a little bit, but I think it's important. Um, I

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thought about it and I thought years ago there was somebody on Pleasant Street. There was more than one person on Pleasant Street complaining about the speed zone and they wanted to do this and that and one of the guys complaining was a pure hypocrite because I see him

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speeding all over town. Well, that being said, I see the value in it. And you know, with Lincoln Avenue and with the senior housing there, um, and I looked this up. I spent a little time looking

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it up. They have municipal control and special zones. So, I don't know about many people in Don that don't get out of town much, but I get out of town a lot and I've been all over the place and I see these little new speed bumps that people are using. I don't know if you've seen them.

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There's some in Providence on South Main Street. >> Um, they're all over Maine, right? Um, they're all over, but they have to be in designated areas and they're required to meet certain criteria. Um, and I was thinking, you know,

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Lincoln Avenue is the perfect place for it because there's a lot of elderly people and there's a lot of people that walk there along the river and it would only take a few of those speed bumps to really cut down on the speed. And the gentleman that was talking about it, he

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did say that people are take shortcuts and he's absolutely right. It's a shortcut to Hannipitz and a lot of people are using it for that purpose along with Pleasant Street. A lot of people, and no offense, Mr. Cavage lives on Pleasant Street. When I thought about

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it and I said, you know, some of those speed bumps would be great from Hot Street to the library. >> Yep. >> You know, at at safe distances, I looked up some of the uh criteria. They can't be in front of a driveway. They have to

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make certain requirements. Um, and I think that this is important and I would like the board of selectment to look into this and possibly have a meeting maybe in September because I don't plan on being around the rest of the summer [clears throat] and

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uh with the police chief, the highway superintendent, the board of selectman, and the concerned residents that live in those areas. Um, I'm going to reach out to to the residents and tell them my idea. So,

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this will be the last time you hear me hounding you. [laughter] But, but I'm sure the residents once I give them this idea and give them the link, you know, it's all it's all under the Mass General Law, section 90,

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section 17C. Uh, it just goes on and on. Um, Mass in Massachusetts speed limits are governed by Mass DOT speed zoning program dividing regulations into statutory limits. And it goes on and on and on, but this is something we could

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do [clears throat] in areas that we have a lot of concern. Um, and I think those are areas of concern. Um, Pleasant Street, I would say from Hot Street North to the library would really cut back on those people

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that are trying to take a shortcut. You know, it's a beautiful river. It's a beautiful drive. Uh, a lot of people enjoy it and there's a lot of walkers there, people with dogs and I think it's something to consider if you don't mind maybe putting something together with

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the police chief and the highway superintendent and I'll gather up some neighbors for you. >> Perfect. >> Thank you. >> Through the chair, if I may, a reminder to the board that we had scheduled a a meeting similar to what Mr. Woods is suggesting for the August 22nd meeting.

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>> Yes. Just for Lincoln. Yes, >> Rob, I got to be honest. It's really hard hearing you, especially when you hold your hands there. >> I know. I don't want you to hear, >> but like when I listen when I listen at home on on cable, Ralph, his voice is hard to pick up. >> So, I didn't hear a word you said, but I

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you know. >> Okay. >> Anyone else? Mr. Higgins. >> Yes. >> Yes, sir. >> Also make a comment after Mr. >> Sure. Okay, that sounds great. >> I just want comment to the discussion earlier. Um, I mentioned the October 1st

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deadline which is imposed by the state. So, if we're not in a position to meet that, the next solar farm that comes in is automatic approval. >> We don't get to review it. We don't get to put conditions on it, whatever they say, we can't reply. >> So, I would just ask that as part of

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what you're requesting of Mr. Vaco is that you keep that deadline in mind. Obviously, it's not time for a bylaw change, but there may be organizationally nonetheless things that he can help put in place to allow us to comply by October 1st so that we're not

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stuck with the next solar farm with no ability to review it. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Anyone else? >> That's it. >> Beautiful. Any [clears throat] motions to adjurnn? >> I just >> Oh, I apologize. >> Um, I just wanted to uh reply to what

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Mr. Wood said about uh speed limits and things like that. Having uh moved here about five years ago, one of the things that astonished me, I think, was how high the speed limits are all throughout Dyke. Um the fact that right behind my

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house, I've got Route 138, which is essentially a racetrack. You can do 50 to 55 on there and probably a lot more without anybody even noticing. I don't understand why Pleasant Street has to be 45, but you probably see far far more cars and uh excuse me, dogs and

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pedestrians and a lot of bicyclists uh much more so than you see cars there. And yet people go roaring down that road uh right along the waterfront. It ought to be a very quiet um you know, sort of a a scenic view

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ride. If you want to go ripping down at 55, you got Route 138 right there. So, I I would absolutely support you in in seeing some speed limits change throughout town. Uh I'm less familiar with Lincoln, but it sounds like it's

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got a similar situation. I I know an effort was made to reduce the speed limit in Pleasant Street a number of years ago. It sounds like that speed limit request was pretty low, kind of absurdly low, but I I don't see any reason why it needs to be more than 30

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uh in in most of Pleasant Street. So, it's just my thoughts. >> We'll get it on a future agenda. >> Any motions to adjurnn? >> Motion to adjurnn. Any second? I have a second. >> Any further discussion? All in favor? I I motion carries. Thank you, D.