Do what? >> Don't sell them because we weren't supposed to take them and I got 12 of them at the office still. >> Yeah. >> So, that is the kitchen countertop scrap bucket. Would
you think that should be closed in but not open? >> Are you Can you hear me? >> Yeah, we can hear you, Missy. >> Okay. >> You can't get that then. That's kind of weird. >> Yeah, I'll look more into it. But
>> you want this? >> Yeah. Are we having a meeting today? >> I think we're waiting for Peter. >> Oh, okay. >> He was supposed to join in on. So, a lot of people confuse that bucket. They call that a compost bin. That is
not a compost bin. That's what you carry your food scraps to your compost bin. So that's those are the ones we picked up from uh forever. >> One of the So you had two different things. So you had the big black things
um um and then those buckets right there. >> Right. You told us we were not supposed to pick up the buckets, but we have them. >> Right. Right. Exactly. So I mean if you they're obviously not missing them and to be honest it would be such a hassle
returning them now and you know all that stuff. So I may as well keep them. Well, the guy went on vacation, so we took some of his inventory without him knowing. >> Okay. >> So, that's got to be corrected. >> That's fine. No, no, no. That's fine. I'll I'll just let him know what you've got.
>> And Somerset never took their pot. So, I think Elizabeth is already selling that. >> Okay. >> I only have one left. So, we should grab >> That was ours. I didn't bring you I didn't bring you the other ones. Yeah. >> Should grab some more.
>> Yeah. So the industry downstairs. Do >> you have candy bars and stuff like that? >> I do. Those are free. >> Okay. Call the meeting order. All we're missing is Peter. Oh, Peter and Ralph. >> Ralph is out today.
>> So we got one more than half. So we should be okay, right? >> What do you need for a corn? >> One more than half. Yeah, because it's just >> we got that, >> right?
So, let's uh stand. Pledge allegiance allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. So,
Tom Ferry's present. Mr. Baco is off today. I believe Mr. Karen is going to zoom in in a little bit. Also present is Mr. Perry, Mr. Neely, and Elizabeth. M. Elizabeth, you're not a member. You
just enjoy coming up here to take notes. Okay. Next in the agenda would be reports. So, since our last meeting, I I get a report trans I know we're solid waste committee, but I'll keep you a prize. It's not really us. Uh transfer station
attendant is not with us no more. We hired a new one. He started Friday, Saturday. >> Did he get a job as a club? >> Uh, no. He got a job in Denim, I believe. >> Oh, okay. >> Water district.
Um, so the new guy is working out well. He's grabbing the computer stuff pretty good. Uh, we got a few more quirks to work out. He like one of my guys work with him this coming Saturday one more time. That's fine. So, which worked out well because last Friday we never had
such a busy Friday >> really >> because we were closed to Saturday before. That's what they all claim. So when they come in Fridays anyways anyways. Uh, so Friday, Saturday was very busy and we sold a lot of stickers.
>> For some reason, um, the previous attendant was letting people come in without a current sticker. We're still catching up on that. Well, the dollar value was around $1,000. So, >> really, >> that added up, but we I me and Heather caught it by doing something else, you
know, on paperwork and checking reports and we caught it. So, we nipped that in the butt. Um, some of them already came in, bought a sticker, you know, letting them know that, you know, cuz it there there still seems to be a confusion about December, end of the year and June, end
of the year. We're on June, the year ends the end of June. So that's why you saw the message board up by there. It said what it said. I just changed it today to something else. So that in a nutshell, I might as well just stay on that transfer station. Um,
so the message board was reminding everyone for a few days over the weekend about the stickers, need a new sticker by July 1st, and today I just switched it. Um, I actually would like to to start something like for the Suckman's meeting
and whatnot. >> I have a sticker that's good for this for this year. That's still good, right? >> No, you said it wrong. We last year we switched over to fiscal year. July 1st or June 30th. >> Yeah. But doesn't the sticker say food
July? Does it say July on it? >> No. >> So, it's good for 25. >> No. >> What does it say on it? >> 25 would end June 30th. >> Oh, you're going by the fiscal year.
>> We're going with fiscal year. We started that last year right in the middle of the year where we assessed everyone either $15 or 30. If they already had a sticker, we just assessing the 15. >> It made the uh when we talked about it and looked at the the cost accounting
and the monetary flow, etc., it just seemed to to make sense to align it with the fiscal year instead of October. >> What's the rate now? >> 30ucks. >> 30. That hasn't changed. It's 30 and >> and that's good until the fis end of
fiscal year next year. >> Correct. Gotcha. I I wanted that because we come up with that dollar value and that represents the salary for the attendant. So he work he works a fiscal year. To me it makes sense to go the fiscal year.
So with that dilemma uh some came in we got that money. Uh we just sent out invoices for the people that are left. I think days 25 or 26 that went invoice today on that. So hopefully that'll get corrected soon.
because that's going to affect payroll. Um the message board now um I I'd like to start something either one of us or me myself once in a while coming for public input for the SLman's meeting or the message board or a combination of the two. I was going to do like don't be
that guy series. Don't be that guy that. But I guess that's politically incorrect and we cannot do that because guy is sexist and it's a derogatory comment. Don't be that stupid guy. That's not what we're trying to say. We're just
being I just wanted as a friendly a funny reminder. >> Can't change guy to person. >> That wouldn't make it funny. >> Okay. Okay. So today's message, it says, "Do you know that all items that fit in a
bag do not come to transfer station? Please put in the town bag curbside." That's a lot of message for you to read from forestry, but you can see it. You they're quick pages. But yeah, that's all it takes is like public input. Someone just say that that
for for that month and that be and over time the education component is going to work because we we're finding for some reason they're not grabbing we still got small items coming in a point of discussion here. Um we talked
about something I think which is going to come up here the little uh snippet of information Elizabeth and I put together. But, you know, with things like this that affect the whole community in in this case, you know, put it in a bag. I I think somehow we need
to to start a protocol here where things like this can be uh announced at other boards also. I mean, you may say, well, people don't watch this board or that board. Well, if you pick up 20 people, >> yeah, >> it's it's still a gain. So I think one
of the discussion points since it's not on the agenda maybe for next time is how do we establish a protocol that things like this that uh affect the whole community can just maybe a board at the end the planning board for example at
the end or the beginning of their meeting you know the uh chairman could say oh by the way we've got an announcement from da da da da da and you know more people would hear the >> right >> you know I something for next time. >> But it's got to be creative because
other than that, it's just it's just another drama. That's why I thought don't be that guy would been >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You know, you can drop tin cans on purpose or something or dress funny, whatever. Don't be that guy. >> Or, you know, you could have just said don't be one of those, you know.
>> Well, that's still that's still that's still a derogatory comment. You don't negative. >> That would be what worse. >> It's it's kind of like the slow children sign. You can't use them no more. Oh, I didn't know that. >> Yes, because that's a derogatory comment. >> Okay.
>> In some people's eyes. >> Well, yeah, >> people with the incredibly thin skin. Um, but I totally agree that having it announced at more than one meeting, also having it posted at various departments, you know, not only at the board of
health, but also in, you know, the schools and, you know, and the town hall, you know, really getting the message out all over because trash is one of those things that affects all households in town, the ones that you serve at least, you know. So,
>> and if you if you if you inundate people with this information, ultimately some of them are going to say, you know, maybe I should do that if they see it here, see it there, see it everywhere. To your point. >> Yeah. And and in different formats. And that's the other thing is, you know, some people could drive by that sign,
you know, 10 times a week and never really notice or but they all of a sudden it's in, you know, I don't know, some newsletter or something. Then boom, then they see it or at the library or they talk to their neighbor. So, um, yeah, it's >> maybe since it's not on the agenda, if
we could maybe make that an agenda item next time, how how we could go about doing that because, you know, the more often you put it out there everywhere, uh, you could say, well, again, it might only affect 20 people. That's 20 people that affected, you know,
>> don't be that guy. >> Yeah. Don't be that guy. >> Yeah. I mean definitely an and it um an education and outreach communication should definitely be on for next next next time. Um I at one point I will not be here next time. I actually have a conference in Boston all that day. Um
but yeah that's definitely a really important one and I can submit for that meeting a bunch of ideas and ways that I um suggest to my my m other municipalities. >> Okay. Thank you. All right. It's any other reports.
Okay. Old business swap shed. There's nothing new on a swap shed on your end, right? >> Um nope. So the grants have been um reviewed and and they're submitted now up through the the financial chain up, you know, heading up to the governor's
office. And hopefully this year they will not be as late as they were last year. So um that Yeah. So that should be good. I expect them to be quick because the Boston political climate seems to be heating up. Yes. >> You think?
>> Well, the the reason last year had to do with something um that um has been resolved. So anyway, >> okay. >> Can I can I make a suggestion? >> Yes, sir. before we get going. Um,
we get tied up in a lot of lengthy discussions on issues not here. And I'm thinking about that and I'm saying to myself, maybe a couple of people on uh on this committee could get together and form a subcommittee to talk about the
method of operation at the shed and then bring bring that back to the committee here and um refine it. bring a recommendation back. I like I like that idea >> without you know because we spend a lot of time >> talking about a lot of things and
>> you you got a slim you got slim pickings today though. >> Well, it's an idea. Put it out there. May happen. It might not happen. I don't know. >> We were going to receive some rules from Messi or some protocols from other uh municipalities. >> Did you send that out? I saw a few. Did
you send out those rules? >> I'm sorry I can't hear you. Did you send out the rules? >> You were supposed to send out some rules. >> Oh, I sent them. I sent them. Yes. Yes. >> Okay. >> Um I thought I sent them to everybody.
>> Microphones. Yeah. >> I'll I'll print those out and then >> if not I It's sitting I have it in front of me. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Do you want to go over it, Missy? >> Sure. Is this the time we want to do this now? Uh actually there's a section
there's old business. >> Okay. Okay. >> Okay. And then I if you want I don't know if you can actually read it. I can share it. >> Are you all done your reports? >> Reports are done. We're we're on swap set right now.
>> All right. Peter's jumping on now. Good timing. Peter, can you hear us? Can you hear me? >> Yep. >> Okay, cool. Thanks. >> Good afternoon. >> Good afternoon. Thank you. >> Yep. So, we we already get started.
Peter, we're already down to the swap share discussion on old business. >> Okay. >> U Mr. Mr. Ney brought up a point um possibly start a subcommittee to keep that moving behind the scenes and make a recommendation to the solid waste committee, >> right? >> Speed up speed up the process.
>> Yes, definitely. Um I I guess the one of the things I want to ask you is there enough of return for the energy that we're going to put into this? >> Uh no, it would be what you're after is a reduction in waste, >> right? Uh, but is there going to be that
much of a reduction that the energy that we're going to >> That's that's a good question. I believe so because a lot of it because a lot of it is either like wood furniture or ceramic like you a lot of ceramics you see in
yard sales and that's quite a bit of tonnage. >> Yeah. So, this is what we consider one of our our best practices um to help reduce uh the tonnage as as as Tom said. >> Peter, uh this is Bob Perry. How are you
doing today? Peter, hello. >> Yeah. Yep, I can hear you. >> Okay. Um my view on this thing is um in response to your question, I think we should try it. Um if if we don't, we'll
never know. It may succeed, it may fail. If but if we don't try it, that's automatic failure, >> right? >> If we try it and we succeed, we'll drive costs down. >> Sure. >> Okay. In terms of, you know, what we have to pay for total tonnage. If it doesn't, if it fails, then it fails. At
least we tried to uh you know, we tried to do something positive and it didn't work out. But I I think we need to take that leap and see what happens. >> Okay. Uh I I was just concerned that you know we've been talking about this for six months now and um through through
the no I mean it's a process. I understand that. Uh I just felt like we we've talked so much about it and we still have a hurdle to get over which is manning these things and I know we've talked about Boy Scouts Lions Club and volunteers. Uh who's going to
micromanage this? I guess is there going to be the the attendant at the land uh at the transfer station? >> That needs to be worked out. And uh I appreciate Mr. Ne's opinion about the subcommittee that has that out.
>> I I know off the cuff I'm still a firm believer we it should be utilizing the transfer station fee to use it, >> right? Uh but we're not there yet because uh we want people to use it and the the committee's got to explore it. So I I agree. Let's have the
subcommittee. Um I are you willing to be on it yourself? >> Sure. Absolutely. >> Yeah, I would help out. >> Peter's willing to help. I'm assuming Mr. Ney I would. Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah, I would too, but can we have three of us on the sub? >> Yeah, I would I don't think it needs to
be much bigger than three. Yeah. >> Would that be considered a quorum? >> Quorum. Yeah, that's Oh, yeah. How's that work? How's that work? >> Yes, it would be. Yes, it would be. >> It depends on the composition of the committee. >> If it's three people, two would be a quorum. >> It's being uh it's doing field work
though, right? >> Uh I would assume some field work is going to be involved. Yes. >> But you need to post all the meetings, all the times you get together. >> Uh no, if it's just a subcommittee, you don't have to post them. Uh right. >> So, we we wouldn't have to worry about
that. As long as we had a quorum, we could we could always uh uh do work. >> Okay. >> Sure. I think it's a good idea because >> Yeah. >> based on my business experience, I know when that subject comes out to this
table, it's going to be a lot of >> I'm good. A lot of uh discussion. >> Yep. >> A lot of time put into it to to come to a conclusion. One one of the reasons why it has been dragged on, Peter, is because it there was a grant process. It's been submitted. It's been reviewed.
Uh Missy just reported the information went to Boston. There's no answer yet. We do not expect an answer on a grant until closer to December, if not in December. >> So, we got time, but yet we don't because it's already basically October. >> Right. Yep.
Okay. Uh you've enlightened me. Thank you. >> All right. So we have a subcommittee. >> Yep. >> Who? >> Mr. Neely, Mr. Perry, and Mr. >> Oh, good. Okay. >> Peter, >> did you volunteer?
>> Peter Karen, >> since you have business, >> would I be um >> Well, they're going to report to the they're going to report to the South W Committee, Missy, and that's when you and I >> Okay. >> That's when you and I get beat up. >> Okay, got it. Okay. I want to know what
my role was. >> Yeah. All right. Are we all set with the swap shed at this time? >> Uh, I I am now. Thank you. >> Me, too. >> Okay. Thank you. Compost bins next. So, I know Elizabeth's been selling
them. We still have six from Somerset that they never claimed. Um, I think we're going to start selling those. >> Perfect. Go for it. >> Yep. I brought in Peter. When we originally picked up the compost bins, we picked these up. They call
tabletops or countertops. >> That's what you put your food waste in and carry it out to your bins, >> right? >> I brought it in. If Missy thought it was all right to sell because I got 12 of them. >> Yeah. >> Y >> if we're going to sell them, I think we got to make a recommendation for a
dollar value and a Slutman's got to prove that. Isn't that correct? >> That is correct. Um they're fairly cheap on on Amazon. They're airtight. I'm not saying we should go that route. I'm just saying we'd have to be competitive with that somewhat if we want people to buy them. Of course, the the benefit is you
get it right away and it's you're helping the town. Uh so yeah, I I I we have one at home that we use that again we bought from Amazon. I don't remember how much it was, but we had priced them out and it was for us the way to go. Uh
I I think um again I'd have to look into how much they cost, but we should be around that same ballpark, I would think. >> So So the what I'm trying to do is get my smaller towns like Dayton and Somerset and all the other smaller ones to work with my cities like New Bedford,
Fall River who can buy it in larger bulk and get some of those discounts and the economies of scale. So I think it brings down the the price of that compost bin. It's anywhere from5 to $10. >> Yeah.
>> So, um you know, you want to at least you can't sell it more than cost to get the points. Um but, um I would highly recommend, you know, like I said, definitely being competitive with it because it's in my opinion, it it's the
perfect thing to go along with a compost bin. you could actually sell them together as a a peanut butter and jelly effect. Like you buy, you know, one price for both of them, >> you know. So, um >> because it really in my opinion, like I
said, it really helps with composting in your >> Oh, it does. We use it all the time and it's we've used it for years and we have obviously we have a garden and we compost but we would be doing it anyway even if we we didn't uh just for
fertilizing but the uh it's a it's a great idea to like you said peanut butter and jelly them as well as uh you have to have something because that's an important step. Nobody's going to go out to the compost bin every night and clean their plates. Uh we you have to have
that countertop or something that you can put under in a counter I mean in a cabinet or something. >> Yeah. Yep. And and I want to say is that it's hard for a dog to get into them. I can speak I can speak from personal experience.
>> Okay. >> We got bite marks but he was not successful. Yeah. >> Um and then the other thing is that what I wanted to mention and and also when I saw the um gentleman from the library presenting a couple of months ago when I did the bag presentation is that I would
be more than than um you know willing to come down and do like a presentation at the library which are turning out to be very popular in a lot of communities um to talk about composting. The fall, in my opinion, is the best time for someone to start who's never done it because you
need those brown fall leaves, >> right? >> You know, so um if we could work out something, if you guys could set up something with the library, I'd be more than happy to come down on a weekend or night or whenever it's open and do that kind of thing. >> They have their grand opening on the
20th. Uh so obviously give them a couple of weeks, but sure, we can arrange something. >> Yeah. Oh, great. And then also like with the library again with part of that education component we were talking about um is um the library is another phenomenal
resource because sometimes they have display areas. So you might be able to display you know the compost bin or like posters about composting and and you know the town offers it and all that kind of fun stuff. So >> good. Since since we're discussing um you know
getting the word out to the public um like to do two things here if I may um Elizabeth put together a reduce your trash cost through composting sheet that describes everything very nicely. Um what I would propose and and
I had already asked Elizabeth maybe uh what it says it says reduce your trash cost through composting. Uh sub bullets approximately 25% of household trash weight is food scraps waste leftover meat bread vegetable peels etc. Second
bullet keep trash cost from rising by lowering food scrap weight. Third bullet composting will cut cost. Fourth bullet reduce trash bag usage. Fifth bullet, Dyon is offering composting bins at less than half the
cost. And then the sub bullet, uh bins are valued at $67. Your cost $30. Uh second sub bullet, uh bins are large and pest proof. Third sub bullet, great for your gardens. Uh and then other ways to reduce uh food scrap waste, ask a
farmer, neighbor, someone you know may already be composting. Second bullet, look at your closest compost site and go www.mmass.govdocmap uh hyphen list for more info. Call order a bin at the health department and give the health department's number. Uh I
would propose to the committee that and just a suggestion we put reduce your trash costs instead of in black and red. And the reason I say because I think we should take this uh flyer and right now we can hang it in every public building
in town. >> And um uh then uh might be appropriate to ask the board of selectmen if they would concur with us going around to the businesses in town like the non-public facilities and ask if we could either
hang this in there or leave some with them. Yeah, >> I just said a lot, but that's what I proposed. >> No, yeah, there were all good ideas. The uh obviously we can h hang in at town hall and uh that's like we're not going
to be concerned about whether they go to businesses. Uh there there's no re reason why they can't. And I I would I would think that all of our businesses in town would love to help out the countertop ones. Uh it in addition to
reducing waste, you don't have the smell of keeping it in your garbage pail for three or four days. >> Yeah. >> So there's nothing but positive things about about doing uh uh a waste uh compost. >> Well, the the reason I bring that up is
because we've got this great flyer here with a great deal of information on it. >> Yeah. >> Let's let's get it out there. >> So there's a couple of information. Um, maybe if Elizabeth could send it to me, but I think she mentioned meat in there. >> Yeah. >> Do not in a backyard compost bin, do not
put meat, dairy, or any oils or fats. It will attract animals and it actually slows down the process. It's only it's only good for large commercial entities. >> And then I think also the map kind of thing she was talking about, those are
those are for really large commercials that only businesses can really go to. So, it's not going to help your hometown residents. And then, >> um, the other ways you can cut down on food waste is, um, I can send you other links for this, but >> basically not buying as much food, buy
only what you need. Uh, freezing things. You know, it might sound stupid, but, you know, some people don't think, oh, this meat, if I just pop it in the freezer, I've got it forever, whereas, you know, letting it rot kind of thing. So, right, some of those step back things that some of us older people
might know already. Um, and then also another project I'm going to propose for you guys to think about next year. It's called a community fridge. Um, and and based in a food little food pantry. You might have something similar in your council on aging now. Um, but basically
it's a refrigerator freezer out for outdoors and also like a little mini food pantry like closet thing kind of built around it and residents who have excess food um rather than throwing it away or whatever they can put it there. It's not it's not the household food
that you made your dinner and you have lefto, you know, extra food, >> but you know, let's say you bought, you know, way too much uh pasta or whatever and then then all of a sudden you're you you have celiac, you know, you can't you have to get rid of all this pasta, that kind of thing. So, residents could put
that there. And what it is, it's >> it is a way for residents who might have food insecurity >> um temporarily. they're not maybe have enough to like um be able to get food assistance, but these are for people who
do not have to go through, you know, registered channels that they could go and get this any time. Usually, we suggest putting this near really well lit public areas. Um, you know, so there's no vandalism, that kind of thing. But it's a we're finding out it's
it's a huge way to find out, you know, the food insecurity in your areas. like in my town, it's it's it's way higher than we ever thought it was. Um, right. Really opened up the door. So, that's another project for next year that can actually help with the RDP points and
grants as well and help your community that you might not know, you know, is is really struggling, >> right? It it it amazes me that uh well, we all are feeling the effect of food prices increasing. >> Yes. And
>> uh if if people who never needed help need help. >> Yeah. >> And uh it's always been sad that people even needed help, but that's that's the way it is. But uh anything that we can advertise uh I I think there should be
some kind of asterk on that poster, Bob, that says, you know, meats and and dairy and oils are excluded. I I I haven't seen the poster, so I don't know if there's already something like that. Uh but as well as uh just what you said uh
Missy about the the the food that would be available uh it would it's going to be certainly an education process that >> uh I I I think we do a better job of getting the word out. Um
I'm not 100% sure that people pay attention enough but it's not for a lack of trying anyway. >> Yeah. Missy, can you send that over to me and I'll update the flyer and then send it back out to the committee? >> Yep. Yep. So, if you send that over to me, then I can uh send it back.
>> All right. Thank you. >> Yep. >> Okay. So, before I go next in the agenda, and the next on the agenda is setting fees. Uh, do we want to morph the the those countertop bends
with that or do we want to work on that separately? Before I go on air, should I be entertaining a motion for the compost bins now so we can make a recommendation slept in the to vote on? >> I would say so. >> Okay. So, I'll entertain a motion to
>> How do you want to word it? Like Missy said, it's either five or $10. That's not the total cost of the bends. We absorb the rest. >> Right. >> So moved. >> Right. And they're going to find you can get them cheaper on Amazon anyways. And they're encouraged to do their own homework. So take that and get
>> five or $10. >> I recommend the five. >> I I recommend the five as well. That's that's a real encouraging price. >> Yeah, it is. >> I I also that was the one I I highly suggested as well. >> Okay. Is there a second? Has it been seconded?
>> Not yet. I don't I'll second it. So I I don't know if I have to step down and make a motion, I believe. >> Yes. >> I I you described everything. $5 and I said so. All right. So, yes, we do have a motion made in second. Any further discussion?
>> All in favor? >> I >> I I have it. Anyone oppose? Okay. Thank you. >> Uh when it comes to fees, the selectman have decided that every October we're going to address the fees in town. uh
everything from what we charge for a building permit to what the zoning charges for an application to trash bags. Uh not that we can't raise trash bags during the year. I I don't mean that aspect. I don't mean that or implying that at all. It's just that
instead of halfassing this, um, we're just going to try to streamline it and say we we'll we will look at what's going on every October and just make the recommendations uh ourselves if if there's nobody from a particular board
that has an objection to it. And and um so if we can work around that October going forward, it would it would help out Thank you. Um and and Ralph is not here also. I think that was one of his ideas
or yours working with him. >> Yeah. >> Um I do have a question with that before we go into our fees. Um I I do like that idea and I do like the idea that we it forces everyone to look at their fees so they don't fall behind like the trash bags have. >> Sure,
>> that's a good example. I don't think there's anything wrong with using the trash bags because that really should have been in increments over the years. Um, however, where is is there a time of October that you guys are making that? >> Not it hasn't been decided yet. We just
picked October. Um, because it would be right around the town meeting, fall meeting. >> Okay. So, there's a good chance our next waste reduction meeting is before that then. Correct. >> That's correct. >> All right. So, I handed out here the fee
schedule. It wasn't the most up to date that the prices are >> and you can get one online. I'm sure you know where to find it. >> Yes, I do. >> So, I I suggest I'm suggesting that across the board, a $2 increment across the board and also entertain of adding
furniture because like now if a a broken bureau came in, there's no way to assess the person. >> Yeah. >> But I don't want to itemize it as the bureau. I'm thinking furniture. the word furniture question, but that's kind of
kind of broad. I mean, >> I I do I did that on purpose. Yes. Well, no, the you do have specific on the sectional couch and couch. That's in your schedule already, but the furniture is not there. We already discussed the the rug scenario earlier this year.
We're not going to take that. Um but the furniture like a bureau um there's not much left that's left a asset would it be appropriate and I don't know that's why I'm asking the question to
break it down into wooden or metal furniture what for weight perspective I I don't know it's >> I don't think you need to because you have partial miscellaneous metals and you have a full load of >> Okay. Okay. Yeah. No,
>> that's that's why I'd like to keep the furniture pop rather than add a half dozen or a dozen items to the list. >> Have we ever thought about um organizations out there that would take stuff like the Kidney Foundation, Salvation Army, and stuff like that?
>> Yes. >> As a possible way to get rid of things. >> Yes. And that's >> Do you have a list of that? >> Uh the swap shed needs to address that. That's the avenue. I do not want anything to go in our rolloffs.
So after we pick through and we figure out no one of our entities want or use it, the residents are not taking it. Like savers for example supposedly will take whatever we have regardless. >> Right. >> So I'm hoping you guys is that's part of your charge is how the end of the day
where is it going? >> Yes. Right. >> Or the end of the month. >> So when I have the rules I have that it's all factored into all of that already. But as far as um these charities taking the stuff, the problem is right now they're inundated and the
quality of the furniture has gone down. Yes. >> So the charities have become extremely um particular what they take. >> Selective >> um very selective. Yes. Um Savers is probably the least so, but they won't come and pick it up from you. So again,
there's that value of taking a town employee or two and taking it somewhere. So, you really want to like stop it before it even gets there. Um, you know, and then by I like Tom's idea of keeping it furniture because any more furniture
has so many different components to it um that you know it might be metal and wood and you know all this other stuff. Um, so keeping it that way is is good. But so yeah, so part of the whole um and I apologize I thought I sent the rules. I spent a lot of time working on it on
Friday. I forgot to send it. But that was one of the the parts is that you know it it will address other places where people can take stuff and that the attendant you know is the one who makes the decision on the quality of it and the size. So I thought we would start
with the size of nothing larger than 4x4 or whatever you know uh furniture. So you were, you know, what you're only taking is small good furniture that would have an a likely to have a second use rather than going into the trash
because that's exactly >> So what you do with the rest of it? >> We we're all kind of out of order right now. >> Yeah. Yeah, we're out of order. But what I wanted to say is that so again, the whole goal is not to have it end up in the trash. And so these fees that Tom is
setting um can be really messed up if that is not followed. uh carefully. >> Correct. So to clear up what Mr. Enel is asking, did we answer your question? There are entities out there to take whatever's coming in.
>> Right. Okay. >> What What about stuff we can't take >> for the swap shed? You're talking about >> either way. >> Well, that that's I'm bringing up what's going to the transfer station for disposal. Well, if the swap shed is at the transfer station and it can't go
into the swap shed, then the resident's going to have to pay for it to go in the trash. >> Exactly. Exactly. >> So, the tenant says, "No, it's not in good shape. We can't take it." Then they to get thrown away. >> That's assuming the swap shit's at the transfer station. It might end up somewhere else.
>> That's one of the reasons why I was thinking about having a subcommittee because that's definitely going to be an issue, >> right? >> Right in right in your rules right from the very beginning. >> Yes. >> All right. back to the fees and I am bring talking about transfer station fees.
I'm just throwing it out there the $2 across the board and then furniture for example uh the current price would have been 20. So if we're going to have make a recommendation this selectman it would be 22 if that's an item but that's my recommendation. I'm not asking for it to
be acted on today. I'm suggesting everyone review their list that'll be on the agenda for next meeting. will be ahead of the fee assessment for the Sleptman. How much? Um, first of all, I agree with um, you know, that breakdown.
>> Five is too much and I'm sorry, >> five is too much. >> Yeah. Well, no, no. I I just um as a little bit of backup uh I think it would be wise to you prepare to uh present this to the select you know two bucks
across the board just be able to say uh for benefit of the public on camera that our fees have risen by x percentage or whatever. Therefore, we have to increase, you know, to cover those fees for us to dispose of it. That's correct.
You know, >> exactly. Yes. Perfect. >> Yep. >> What were you proposing for the furniture? 22 bucks. >> Yeah. Because it's similar to a couch. That's how I the 22. >> That's what the new >> Yeah. >> item would be. >> So, that Yeah, it's the added item. Okay.
>> So, if you add $2 to any item, including the free on items because that's working out and there was a little increase. uh you don't see that expense. I just had all the freon removed and >> no but I mean if you could u just I I think simply is showing uh what the
costs were you know maybe the last year and how much they've increased for this year therefore it is essential that we do this because you know it's going to come out of appropriate otherwise. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Tom Tom has anybody been walking at the fees that we charge now?
>> No. Uh most of the problems is they're not educated >> and they're bringing com loads and like I said a lot a lot of it is just they could have fit in a trash bag, >> right? >> And we we really should just reject these loads. Too much time's gone by.
Taking it in taking it in and trying to compro compromise is not a help. We we just going to have to get hard news. >> Well, you got a brand new attendant so >> that's why we're taking advantage of it. Yes. Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> I I have no objections to raising the fees. Um it it the people who are using it, you got today you got to pay to throw away and you you have to smart uh shop smarter today than than ever
before. >> Yes. >> And a lot of the items on the list when you buy a new item, they'll take the old one too. >> Yeah. And that's again, you know, part of the education process >> that we need to get residents to start
thinking about that, >> right? We we got to educate them before they buy something. We get we got to get there. You got Don't be that guy. >> Oh, no. I mean, you know, it's kind of interesting if if you present it to people, it's well, it's going to you buy
a new refrigerator, it's going to be just to make up a number, it's going to be 40 bucks to to haul it away by the, you know, the company that sold it to you. 40. I'm not paying the 40 bucks. Okay. So, you want to take it, put it in the back of your vehicle, haul it through your house, put it in the back
of your vehicle, uh, take it down, pay X number of bucks. Which is easier to do? Write a check for 40 or, you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. And that that's the same thing with with when we had the mattress band. That's example that I would I had for people like pay the 40 to the
mattress company or do you want to shle it down the stairs, trip over the cat, knock over the lamp, get it out to your car, hoist it on there to save, you know, $5 or you know have it it be even more money kind of thing. So yeah,
it's exactly that and getting and getting residents understand that. >> With the exception of the cat, that was me. >> I had the cat. I had the cat. >> Most um mattress places take your old mattress now. I mean, it's built into
the price. They advertise a free return, but in reality, you're just paying more for the mattress. So yes, uh that that's one item that >> people who are buying new mattresses really should be aware of of where they shop and who's going to take it for
free. >> Yep. >> So I'm a little concerned with that. I'm going to look into that before our next meeting closer. >> Our numbers haven't gone down and I've heard people comment we're a lot cheaper in a lot of places. So when I when I hear that I'm questioning all our
mattresses, Dy mattresses. Tom, what are the prices on them? >> Uh 40. >> Uh that's that's low. Yeah. Um you're looking at at least >> you know, we getting an awful lot of mattresses in our town. And I question if they're all from Dy.
>> What is what is our current input from mattresses look like from that past three and a half years of data? I mean, has it gone up significantly? >> I I I'll have to make a graph, but it's been pretty consistent. I'll have to make a graph. >> Well, no. I mean just in you you see the
numbers is a significant rise or or >> we we're going to have to I'll have to get that for you. >> Well, I mean I would absolutely f if it if you're you know then you're the man up front and you're seeing that are they all are asking the question are they all Don mattresses? Yeah. Then maybe we need
to look at in addition to the or instead of $2 on that one maybe we have to go up much much higher. Since you're aware of this issue, have you thought about ways to cure it? >> Oh, it's locked up. >> No, but I mean they need to have a
>> Well, bring you could bring a mattress in there. Even it's locked up. You could bring a mattress and you don't know where it comes from. >> That That doesn't happen. >> How do you know that? >> Well, you got a locked gate. >> No. Well, you know, with the attendance there, I could show up with a mattress I got from my daughter's house in Somerset, >> right?
>> That's that's a problem all over the state. It's a potential problem. Yes. >> I thought that's that's what you were saying was is a problem now. >> No. Well, I question it. I question it. It just got my attention. That's what I'm saying. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So, I I think you probably are
importing some mattresses. Um, and this is where I'm really trying to get my municipalities to look at your your neighbors. What are they charging? So, so we're not an we're not an enterprise, but the mattresses are covering the
cost, but we budget on my disposal. >> So, I'm not overly concerned, but I'm questioning >> you at the town hall now. Can you ask for identification? See a license or something like that? >> You You can You're not You're not hurting the town. You just might be violating the town.
There's a thousand dollar fine for >> for what? >> Unauthorized use of the landfill. It's right there. $1,000 fine. >> So if it's coming from out of town, that's a $1,000 fine >> for that for that person. >> It could be. >> Yeah. Is it posted?
>> It's everyone. It's >> Is it posted up there? >> I don't know. Well, this is posted there. So, it's right there. Yeah, there it is. >> Yeah. But you have a separate container up there for mattresses. >> Yes. >> Is it posted there? >> No, it's only thing that's posted on the
side is who donated the container. match D might be a good idea to post that. >> We still have to go through the attendant, right? I'm not overly concerned. I just got my attention. >> Okay. >> Like I said, it's not costing you as a taxpayer because the they're paying for the disposal and the disposal is
covering all our costs. >> Yeah. But $1,000 in our market is better than we wouldn't get it. More to come. We wouldn't get it. Peter would have get to enjoy paying it, spending it somewhere else. But again, you you do have to look at, you know, what the other, you know,
towns are charging um for that. And then, you know, also when you're look talking about your cost, you know, thinking about the um administrative cost or do you need to reorganize that that trailer every now and then to get more mattresses in? So, that is adding that extra cost to it. There is also
paperwork involved with the mattresses whether some of them are refused by the hauler because they're so contaminated and gross. Um so there is some extra work involved with a mattress than with regular furniture. So you know increasing the cost um you know is
something you might want to look at what those other hidden costs are that you're you know that you're not absorbing them somewhere else especially with an enterprise fund. >> Okay. So, I I see any Jender. I I made a mistake. I took the countertop buckets
out of order with the compost bins. That's my fault. So, we're already done with new business, unless there's something else in new business. >> Uh, I don't have anything. >> Okay. >> Did we want to look at the swap shed rules? >> I I just emailed them to everybody.
>> No, I would not reform the subcommittee. Let them run with it. >> Okay. Okay. >> I like this idea. Let's take advantage of it. >> Okay. Sounds good. Uh, other items not reasonably anticipated within 48 hours. Anything else that came up?
>> Public input, >> audience, >> next scheduled meeting October 6. Is that good for everyone? >> Yeah. >> Nope. Not for me. But go ahead without me. >> The time is good. 3:00. >> Yes.
>> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Next. the approval of minutes May 5th because it was not on the agenda last month and the approval of the minutes of August 4th.
Well, I hear a motion. I move to approve those minutes. I've read them. They've seemed good. The Which one? May 4th. >> May 5th and August 4th. >> I've read both. I make a motion to approve both sets of minutes.
I'll have a second. I don't have a copies of it yet though. >> Motion made and second to approve the minutes as presented. >> Okay. >> Any further discussion? All in favor? >> I I Any opposed?
>> Okay. That's all right. Item number 11. Move to adjourn. What are you going to do about the subcommittee? >> I'm not on it.
>> You're the chair. Who? Who? I We don't need two people. Don't need a chairman. Who's on it? >> You, Mr. Perry, and Mr. Karen. >> Really? >> Yes. When you want to meet?
>> Whenever. Whenever's convenient. I'm I'm available. I'm sure you are. It's up to Peter. >> You get you get a little bit of time, but I would get something and get at least a report next meeting and keep that moving. >> Yeah. Um uh late afternoons work better for me. Uh just because of the
treatments that I'm on. Um by the time I get the treatments and recover uh you know, anything after 3:00 is is good for me. >> Good for me, too. >> Me, too. >> Okay. I just I will not be in town the
uh 17th through the 23rd of September. >> You want to do it next Monday? >> I I didn't understand you, Peter. >> What day? >> You want be next Monday? >> Next Wednesday.
I >> I will not be in town. >> October 15th. >> No, you're out that way. No, you said the 17th >> of of September. September. Yeah. >> Yeah, that was the 17th following
Monday. >> Monday. >> Uh 15. >> Sure. Uh we can do that. >> Peter, did you say October 15th? >> Yeah, that works. >> I mean September 15th. I'm sorry.
>> September, right? I'll check with I'll check with Leanne to see if this room is available. >> Yeah. >> What time? >> Uh I'd like about 3:30 if that works. >> Sure. >> All right. I'll send out an email to the three of you, Miss I'll call you and let
you know if it's >> Okay, great. >> Thank you. >> When I think of >> Okay, >> thank you. You're welcome. There's a motion made to adjurnn. >> Second.
I would move. >> Any further discussion? All in favor? >> I I oppose. >> No. >> Okay. Thank you. That's right. I learned that there's no discussion on the German. >> Have a good day. Bye, Missy.
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