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Good afternoon everyone. I'd like to call this meeting to order. Today is July 21st, 206. It's exactly 2 o'clock. This is the regular meeting of the town of Board of Health and then it's also a remote participation Zoom meeting. We'll

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start with the pledge of allegiance and move on >> to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. [snorts]

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>> Board member introductions. I'll start this way and move her. >> Christopher Isabore, board member. Tammy Melo, chair Eert, clerk. >> We'll go move right along into announcements. I think we just need to

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wait one quick second for uh the health agent. She ran downstairs. It sounds like we have a written report from the town nurse. So, we'll wait just a second for that. And then actually, you know, we can Here she is.

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>> Did anybody jump in on Zoom? Not yet. Just sent me this. Awesome. Thank you. [clears throat] >> All right. So, while we're sort of glancing at her report, do you want to start, Liz, with the health agent um report?

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Surprisingly enough, it's been fairly quiet this month. We've only done three perk tests and one installation, so it's been pretty quiet. Um, I did get one complaint. I went and did an inspection yesterday for it. Wasn't

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really a solid complaint. So, I just, you know, I told the the homeowner, I took a picture of before And when the install is done, I'll make sure he left the road the way he found it. So, she was satisfied with that. [snorts] Um, we do

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have the kennel hearing coming up. I know I only really need two. So, if you both are available on the 18th or the 19th, I know >> I'm available. >> We went so many text messages, so I'll have to double check. Okay. >> But, um, I have to resend out notices

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for that. Um, and they need two weeks. It needs to be advertised in the paper >> uh twice and then two weeks. So, we have to push it out to next month. >> So, that's the reason why we had to change the agenda. Um, but other than

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that, it's been pretty quiet. I'm starting to do some of my trainings. So, hopefully I'll have more certifications coming in. >> Awesome. Thank you. All right. So, it looks like

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glancing at the town nurses um in here. I'm just trying to understand what she has written down here or typed up. >> List of cases. >> I'm not really sure. Um but I'm just confused as to the amount of hours that

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she has put in and what she >> her might be her. Nope. This is one of the installers. Yeah. So, that that's my concern. Um I mean, the town is paying her to work a How many hours are we paying her? >> We have should know because I'm signing

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her payroll, but I can't remember. >> We have a set amount she can get for the year, but it just depends on what she >> what she puts in. Okay. >> We have a new under new business. >> All right. So, I'll wait. Um we'll talk under new business.

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So, Somebody else. Oh, sorry. >> Oh, that's it. >> Hello. >> Hello. >> Hi, Carol. >> Do you want to give um the office manager report? Sure.

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>> Just signed on. >> Yeah, Becca jumped on so she can give her. >> Okay, >> I'll be quick. >> Okay. >> Um Hannah Friends is almost up to date. Just one invoice outstanding. Awesome sounds great. >> And then the farmers market, I reached

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out to 28 vendors to try to get it going. Um, and then I did reach out, we have seven mobile food trucks that are already have a permit with the town for the year. So, I reached out to see if maybe that's a good idea. >> Yeah. Um, and then I reached out to

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seven more that don't have permits yet, but we'll see. Maybe they can come, too. So, what Liz and I were talking about on Sunday uh is the participation. We've this past week or this past farmers market, we had another low participation

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uh event. So I thought >> vendors or >> not so much vendors but as far as customers or people walking through um and I thought the last time it would have been due to the fact that it was on Father's Day.

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>> Um which understandable but this time I mean there were people there. It seemed to be the same people that came through last time. >> I just don't know how to get more people. You know, I'm I'm basically putting it on Facebook as

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well. Ashley will post it. I'll do a video when I get there of all the vendors >> and I'll put it on a bunch of different town Facebook pages. People are watching the video. We had a thousand people watch the last video I made. >> Um, it's just it's good in a way, but

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we're just still Yeah, we're not getting the people walking through. And I do know that our very first event was like a rock star. Um we had a ton of people come through, but I think it's because one of the vendors that was there has a huge following and they have not been at

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the farmers market the last two events. >> Oh my. >> So it seems like >> we got to find vendors. >> We need [laughter] that big following. >> Big following. So and I understand it's the first year but the problem being the vendors that we currently have will not

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come back. you >> if if it's a waste, right? >> So, I'm trying to think of different ideas on how to >> get a crowd going. >> So, that's our biggest challenge right now because I want it to be a successful

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event and have it again next year and build on that, you know, next year and the year after that. >> Yeah. So, I don't know how else to >> Are there ways we could share uh you know the day and the location of the farmers market with surrounding towns?

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>> That's what we already do. >> We do that, right? >> You send out a postcard. Can we do that? That'd be cost effective. >> I know that. >> Yeah, that would be a tough one. >> Yeah, like Facebook. Facebook seems to be the place where people go

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>> to get a lot of things and one of them >> uh being things to do on a weekend or any given day. >> You can set up events on Facebook, right? Where it's in that event section where people will glance at that to see what's going on. >> We can go to other markets and hand out

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flyers or we can hang flyers at Hannip or Stop and Shop. >> That would be that would be helpful. >> That might be a good idea. That's actually a very good point. >> Um that we have, you know, high traffic. >> Yeah. >> People coming to get Dyon trash bags,

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put give hand a flyer out with them. >> I can ask the convenience stores if they would be wanting. >> That's a good idea. We can try that and and see how it goes. Are you currently posting in um like mom's Facebook group pages and stuff the farmers markets?

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>> No, I'm just doing local pages like the Swansea page, Somerset, um Berkeley, Taon, uh Dyova. >> Is that something that we would be open to doing? >> Absolutely. We'll be open to anything.

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But which pages? Like I don't know which pages are in Massachusetts. >> You know, if you joined like a a group like they have those yacht sale groups and things like that that you can >> join some of those. >> You could also ask some of like the daycare facilities to see if they would

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be willing to post it or put it in like the kids backpacks. Um because I think a lot of people like especially older grandparents, they're not so much like on social media and so like it might be a good way to like hit them in the super supermarkets or like when they're picking their kids up from daycare or

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partnering with the schools to like set it in their backpacks. >> You might want to try Instagram, maybe put it on get an Instagram account, put it on there. Yeah. >> If the town has one of those >> no idea. Um go going back to what's already successful. So the vendors that

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had a following, are there incentives? Are there ways we can reach out to them and say, "We really want you here because if they clearly that's the only thing that I'm hearing has been very successful." >> Talked about that. >> Yeah. I >> We think they're going to be on the next one. Correct.

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>> I think so. They're on the August list, right? Coffee. >> Yes. Books and brew. >> Do we know why they chose to see? >> And that's the problem. These vendors who do this all the time, they already

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have their year planned on which events they do because they've been doing them for years. >> So long, right? >> We better get them this year for next year. >> Yeah. >> The other thing I had a few comments on was people thought it was just strictly a farmers market. >> So maybe if we change the title

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>> to >> like vendor fair or what did I actually had a >> vendor fair and farmers market? Yeah, we could do a combination of both because you don't want to lose that farmers market. >> Yeah, I I have a feeling that, you know, with the term farmers market, it's like

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>> I think if we changed the flyer and got rid of like, >> you know, how it has the vegetables in the back, I think if we added maybe something else in there. >> Okay, >> that would >> Okay. I'm just surprised too that we didn't get more farmers coming in with produce. Yeah,

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>> you could also do and market it as like a Dy and family fun day if you were to like get someone to volunteer to like paint someone's like the kids' faces or like people would donate their time just to get themselves like known and if you put it on your like social page or like even Tik Tok is booming right now. I

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know that's kind of weird to do but um like you could >> True. I put it on Tik Tok on my personal page. [clears throat] Would it would it be worthwhile if we contacted like say Roujo and say hey could we hold it here? Um >> they do the the arts festival, the Dy

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and Lions Arts Festival, and they this is the first year they're actually not hosting it at Arujos. Rujo doesn't want to do that event anymore, which is a huge >> I mean, it's great here because it's a it's a great location, I think. You

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know, especially they can um walk the farmers market for those people who have young kids. The playground's right here, you know, there's tons of parking. I think they did was it a strawberry festival a few years ago or something? >> They do that every year and I got their vendor list and I gave it to Ashley

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yesterday. So, >> was starting to email some of those people to see if they'd be interested. >> Well, I think getting them the next year now is the key is the key. >> So, I'm just thinking I mean I don't know why would even good for them, good for their business, you know, plus it's

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a nice venue um that they have there. >> So, Liz, I wouldn't be discouraged. It's the first year, right? >> Yeah. first year doing it. I know you don't want to you're worried about losing other vendors, but first year doing it, seen the videos before. My wife has attended >> and she says she loves it.

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>> Um that's just a fraction. But the point here is I I wouldn't lo I think we have actionable items on ways to expand it, but I wouldn't I wouldn't. It's something that the town needs that maybe to join, right? >> Yeah. if we keep working hard on

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expanding um you know more vendors and I'm afraid to to really invite more food trucks because if you don't have the people I don't want people to to come as a food truck and >> they cook all this food they have all

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this food prepared and nobody's here to purchase it. So >> that's fair. >> We talked about petting zoo, right? Do you think that would be a good idea to attract people to come? I definitely think that would be a good idea. And even if you did like partnered with like the fire department and did like a touch a truck, that would bring so many

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people. >> That would be a great idea. The touch of truck >> if you combined it with something like maybe changing it. And I don't want to take away from your farmers market, but one thing that we did in Middbor was I did a health and wellness fair and then we had vendors come and we did like car

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seat safety checks. Like moms love that stuff. and >> like if you just made it more of like a public event and more encompassing. Um because I do think I agree with you guys where it comes when someone sees like a farmers market like flyer especially with all the vegetables like I don't

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think we're encompassing all of the targets. I loved the farmers market when I went. I thought that was great. Um but I just think people don't really necessarily know what's happening there, >> right? I like that idea about the car seats,

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too. That's definitely an idea. So, we can probably partner um the police department there. I think there's a couple of people in the police department. I just had a car seat installed and they were wonderful. So, maybe we can partner with them.

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>> Like Chris said, it's the first year, so it's got to get out there. >> Yeah, >> it's going to be struggle. It's tough because you want everyone to be successful, right? >> Everyone, you know, they're bringing their goods, they're they're spending

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the day there, and you want everyone >> to feel as though it was worth their time. >> So, yeah. So, we'll see. We'll we'll keep plugging away at it and see what happens. >> One in the fall. >> I'd like to go through September or

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possibly even October. >> September. Yeah. >> You know, to see what happens. And then we can start planning early for the following year, maybe getting the dates in order >> and you know going from there. So at least we can start planning with people because people those people I'm telling

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you they love to have their dates in the book. [laughter] >> So talking to some of them they're like, "Oh yeah, we do this this month and this this month and [laughter] they have it all all squared away. So I'd like to, you know, I'd like those people to come back.

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Sorry, I kind of ran away that way. [laughter] >> All right. So, moving to animal control. It doesn't look like Stacy is here. >> We can go back to Becca for her report if you want. >> Okay. Becca, you want to give your report? >> You guys hear me?

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>> Yes. >> Okay. Hi. Sorry. Um so for the the last month um just going over Maven cases we've had two cases of um vibbra which is just a bacteria um campilo vector which is an infection of um campulo

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bacteria um neurovirus one case um vicella two cases one case which is um a form of tick born illness we've had a lime 12 lime cases lyme disease um in dyon and shagela which was actually a case from about two

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months ago, which I've been going back and forth with the providers as well as the case themselves, and I've finally shut that case down. Um, and I can report that he's doing much better um for um so I've just been updating that,

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dealing with um both the providers, the contacts, and just making sure that other contacts are um you know, staying safe and healthy. In regards to the vibro cases, one is still open as it is a minor. So I am having trouble getting

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the information from um the provider. And what that is is it's just um like a bacteria that could be eating get gotten from like going into like salt water with a wound or um you know eating some uh raw seafood or something of that

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sort. Um, from the the case notes that I have been able to get, looks like the child just had a wound and went into water and um, but it seems to be clearing and she wasn't around Dyon in the time. Um, so but keep you posted on

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that as I get further information. I'm running into some issues in regards to um, just HIPPO with the providers and the case um, or any questions on any of that? >> No. Okay. Um for upcoming we have the um

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blood drive happening on August 15th. Um right now we only have six um participants signed up which I just asked the people at the COA as well as Liz to share that. Um I did post it on my own social feeds and I'm hoping to

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get more people as we did last year. Last year we did have a lot of walk-ins and last minute signups so that was great. Um right now I have a flu clinic um that is um being done like we did

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last year. Um I had a meeting with Ashley and we're hosting that at the COA on October 21st as of now as long as they can um confirm that date. I'm still waiting to hear back from CVS. Um if we wanted to do something of that sort. One

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thing that I did do in Middbor in regards to the flu clinic because everyone does love a flu clinic. um kind of combining it with a health and wellness fair um which might be good if we moved it actually more so into September or end of September and then partnering it with the farmers market

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that might draw more attention. Just an idea. Um and then for just as we did last year, the Dana Farber I contacted them to do the breast cancer mammogram van. We didn't have any success on that last year. I don't

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really know what happened because that was pretty much free mammogram bands. I don't know if we just didn't do the best or I didn't do the best job of marketing it or if people just didn't understand what it was. Um but I definitely think that was a missed opportunity and I think um with having it actually

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scheduled in October for October breast cancer month um that will be really great. Um, I do think that if possible, um, I would like to partner that with some type of campaign for our social media and doing like um, you know,

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messages to survivors or, you know, have like somewhere in the town where people can write messages or like names of loved ones um, who they've lost or who are fighting. I think that's a great idea. Um, any questions on that one so far? So,

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I'm just I just have a thought for that mammogram van. Um there's that event in October, October 11th. Did we talked about it yesterday? That um is the Lions Club. Arts festival. >> Arts festival. I wonder if we can

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partner with them. >> That would be a great idea. >> The mamogram band there. >> Yeah. I mean, they >> only it's a weekend. I'm not sure if that would operate on a weekend. Um, typically >> Sunday, >> typically they do do during the week, but I could reach out to my contact and

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see if there was any way to push it to a weekend like that Sunday. You said October 11th, >> I believe. Liz, is it October 11th? I think that might be a great idea because >> Okay, I can look into that. >> They have a huge following. So maybe if

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they advertise that on top of what they're already doing, they could get sign up. Um, another idea that I had kind of with the breast cancer to and kind of tying it on to Movember is almost doing a campaign with like the police

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department, like the town officials, um, the fire department and kind of doing like a um, like selling shirts or something to raise awareness for either one or having like the firefighters like grow their mustaches and then shave them

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or if they're willing to. Um, I think it's a great idea. Here in Middbor, they know firefighters would shave their mustaches, but I thought it was a great idea. I don't know how willing and able the Dyon fire team is, but just an idea.

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>> Sure. Um, and then for mosquitoes and ticks, we currently work with a company um called um Plymouth County Outreach. And I've developed a great partnership with both

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Aaron and Blake who are um one is a um for a lack of better words, a bug expert, and the other one is a mosquito expert. and they have actually just reached out to me to we finally found some contacts within your area because Plymouth unfortunately doesn't include

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Dyon um to see if what I've been doing with them is having them go to COAs and doing like a bug walk or you know just informations about ticks and mosquitoes. Um so that might be something worth

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>> Yeah. >> any education on that topic would be great. Um, and then for some Facebook pages, um, we did the sun safety, we did the tick, um, I don't think I've sent over the tick safety yet, the air quality safety coming from the

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California fires. Um, some ideas that I would like to do, which I'm not quite sure the direction of who I should reach out to or where I can host this, um, would be the car seat safety check. Um, we would just need typically like the police department or the fire department

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are um certified to do the seats. Um, if not, I'd be totally willing to do that. Um, and >> the police department does that. Like I said, I don't know. Do we know if the fire department does that? Probably not. I don't know. I think the police department at least has one person, maybe a couple more.

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>> Fire department does it. >> No, I think I think the fire department does it. >> Yeah. I'm not sure if they have any certified techs though. they have to go to school and be certified to do it. So, it's something that we can check into >> because [snorts] I just think it would be really great to do that. And then we

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could even look into getting a grant for like car seats like to donate. Um, and then we could make it almost like a um, you know, touch a truck car safety event/farmers market like wellness thing. Um, for Narcan Education,

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overdose awareness month is coming. Um, I don't know how what the perception of this would be, but one thing it's near and dear to my heart, um, was maybe doing like some type of representation. Um, I do it here on the Middle Burrow lawn where we ordered flags, um, to

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represent those we've lost for overdose. Um, and how like it affects people's families. Um, it's kind of a a hot topic. Not sure how the town would feel about it. Um we've gotten some push back in Middleboro. Um but I think it's you

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know that's one thing about um education when it comes to narcotics and overdosing is it's not talked about and I think that's one thing that's important to talk about and so you can you know talk about how to discuss it with your loved ones or how to bring it

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up. Um, >> I I think that's important because in my opinion, addiction does not discriminate. >> You know, demographic of of people that, you know, it it it's across the board. So, especially in my law enforcement

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career, I can tell you it it's horrific. >> I absolutely agree. It has no bias. matter. >> I think it's like such an important thing and I think it's just totally like a hot topic that people aren't comfortable talking about and there's such a stigma with it. And of course,

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like we don't want anyone to suffer with any, you know, um addiction issues, but if we kind of made it less of a stigma, I think we could learn and promote education and awareness behind it. And we could even get some like donation of

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Narcan or do a Narcan training with it. from the the alliance. Sure. >> Perfect. Um, another thing, um, a fall prevention maybe at the COA. Um, I currently just partnered with a physical therapist who runs Aspire in Plymouth

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and they are coming to our COA and doing like a educational um, like I don't want to say for the lack of better words, but performance of like if you do fall. Um, that's been one thing I was trying to bring to Dyon, but I'm kind of getting

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slammed down with a lot of or no answers when it came to some of like the local area providers. Um, >> sorry, can you repeat that again? You >> I was hoping to get in contact with some physical therapists or um someone who would be interested in doing that in

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Dyon. Um, but however, I've gotten either nos, it's out of our territory, or I have got no um answers back. I don't know if you have a contact being in the profession. >> Not within that, but something I can

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definitely look into. >> Okay, great. Thank you. Um, I think so like I have actually brought that. I think it's usually there's a great turnout and like we I've done it for the veterans in town in Middbor. I did it for Plymouth. I did it for a um impaired

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eyesight group at the COA. Um it I mean it gets a lot of traction. I think people like the idea of like learning what to do if they fall. Um I would even be willing to like make a video and put it on our social. Um, and

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then another thing that, um, I was thinking of is if we did like some type of like back to school drive or in prom season kind of like partnering with the Mass State Police and doing like an impaired driving simulation. >> That would be good.

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>> Um, >> really good. >> Thank you. >> All great ideas. >> Thank you. Um, and then for last but not least, um, some article ideas. I don't know if I know Liz wasn't able to open my sheet that I had sent over um, with my

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writings on it, but some article ideas that I thought I could write. Um, I posted it by month and I was hoping to see if I could just get some feedback on that or if there was another topic for each month that you would like. >> Oh, that all looks great. And I think

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that would be some really good stuff to put on our Facebook page. >> My only concern, my only concern is I think there's this big drive on social media and everything social media. We have to realize there's a ton of people in town who are not on social media, >> right?

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>> So how and we serve the whole entire town. So yes, it's great ideas and you can post them on social media. What other medium are we sharing this to the elderly folks who are not on social media because they actually benefit more from this? >> They don't have all the options on getting this information. So

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>> use the strawberry vine for a lot of stuff. >> You could do that. >> That sounds great >> because I mean and that's why like the town they mail everything. >> Yeah. >> Right. Everything is done through mail. That's why I was saying if we do like bulk postcards or something like that. I don't know what the cost would be, but they're not. >> Yeah.

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>> I don't believe they're that expensive. But if you did some of these, you know, just did like a mask one, >> not one at a time, you know, but just saying, "Hey, we have a farmers market. Hey, we have the, you know, whatever's going on that month, you >> just do a postcard with our website saying come to our website for all your

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>> Here's some of the here's some of the things." >> But I still worry about that [laughter] because I I I work in this day and age, I'm very open to social media. I I really worry about the trend they're going into, which is >> everything's online.

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>> Everything's online. There's just a section of society, and I'm intentional [clears throat] about that now of staying away from online on certain days. But there's section of society in Dying that just are not online. >> So getting them a postcard saying come

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to my website, that's not a solution >> in my honest opinion. And we just have to I'm not gonna put an age to it, but there's just a section of society that deserve the same exact information that everyone else is getting that are not online. >> Yeah, that's true. I mean, I think

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parents >> there could also be I don't know um if there's a a place in like grocery markets and stuff like that. Like usually there's a place where you can put like you know flyers and billboards and stuff like that within like the grocery shops. Um you could do it in

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different like you know reach them through you know grandparent um like dayc carees pickups groups that kind of thing like you can also reach that demographic. >> I like the idea you brought up earlier about backpack and leaving a fly in a

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backpack even the town hall intentionally just because I want my kids to know how the town runs will go there walk get into the town hall and just look at the board and see what's happening. Um, I'm sure people will be open to that. But yeah, >> and even the library would be a good I

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know like um like you know the library is not you know when I was a kid it was definitely more trafficked than it is now. I think people kind of just forget about the library. Um like the library has great resources and I tell people that as well. Um but you could do it on

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any billboard or any type of [snorts] you know flyer. You could easily make some on Canva and then just print them out and just literally just place them everywhere around town. Um, but >> I think we should do a combination. We should do a combination of both. I just don't want us to forget the piece of the

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town hall, the library like you mentioned. >> Online definitely, but I just don't want to forget that other section. >> That's a valid point. Thank you for that. >> Yeah, there's no there's no harm in doing both. Both, right? >> Definitely not. Are are these flyers

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being posted in each department as well? Like the town's clerk's office, like on the window or like in near the health department on like the board or are they everywhere like on each like entryway to the doors? >> Just at the main door >> cuz we could if you put them at each

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location because every day people are going to certain departments. So, um you know especially in like dog registration like season and stuff like that. You would get a lot of like information that way. >> Great idea.

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>> And like the senior center, >> you know, posting it um at some of the facilities >> um utilize the churches too. >> Yeah, churches possibly partnering with the schools >> and you could even home with with the

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kids or however >> they hand out information. That might be another idea. This is definitely stuff that we can explore or you can explore. >> Definitely let us know. >> Perfect. Um, is there could we set up a

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time maybe like to set up like kind of like our ideas and just like figure out like the contacts and what just because I while I love doing this stuff, sometimes I run into roadblocks of who I need to reach out to or you know. >> Absolutely.

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>> So on Tuesdays I'm off from Middle. So, I think Tuesdays are like the best day. So, if you have any room on next Tuesday, we I would love to sit down. I love social media and marketing and events. So, >> and I can get >> Yeah, you can hook up with the girls.

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>> Perfect. >> Sounds great. Well, thank you, Becca. >> Thank you. >> All right, we're going to move right along. Um, we have some permit approvals that we've already approved. So, the stable permits were 926 Somerset Avenue,

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135 Central Center Street, uh the farmers market, Carol J. Johnson, Stray Farm, um pool permit, uh Whitney Academy, uh temp food permit was roadside LLC, Dyon Arts Festival.

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Jump right into business and we're back to the BA bags. >> We need a motion to approve that on e >> Thank you. Thank you. I get a motion to Thank you for catching that. If I could get a motion to approve those permits.

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>> Uh I make a motion to approve uh item E uh permit approvals. >> Second. >> I get a vote. >> I motion passes and we can finally move on to old business. Back to the bag bids.

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>> Yes, I did get two more bag companies. Um, but I [snorts] believe waste zero was still the lowest. >> Wa zero it is. >> So I think is working on the contract.

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>> Okay. >> All right. So I think [snorts] just make a motion for approval. >> Yeah. You have a choice.

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>> Going with the lowest one, right? >> Waist zero was lowest. >> Waist zero was lowest. >> If I can get a motion on the approval for bags, that would be great. >> Yeah, I make a motion to approve way zero contract.

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I >> get a vote. >> I motion passes. All right, new business. 01 St. [singing] Rose. You have a betterment loan. >> Yeah, this is back on the agenda. There was some errors on the packet and then

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um the town administrator made some edits to the contract itself. They deleted some stuff that was unnecessary. >> Okay. >> So, same applicant. >> Okay. >> Just need to have you sign.

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>> Okay. >> But it needs to be notorized. So, thank you Paul for being here. >> I thought I had >> Sorry if I'm making you wait. >> What's that? >> I said I brought my >> Do we have sign in front of us or

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>> She has one message to bring your IDs. >> Okay. >> I have mine. >> That's the one we're going to sign. >> You're supposed to drive with your license. [laughter] >> You left your wallet. >> It's possible.

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Is it okay if I approach and record your >> Oh, absolutely. >> I'll just have to borrow someone's pen because I only have pink. >> Do you need my ID as well? >> [snorts] [clears throat] >> signature. Oh, you guys signed it

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already. Oh no. >> I know. >> Liz, is this is one document? >> Um, yeah, that one >> you're signing twice >> I gave you. It's two separate documents. >> Okay. So, this is this. What is What

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goes with this? That is the the end of this one. >> Okay, we should probably just put that with it just so people know what they're saying. Okay, this he's got to witness something. >> Oh, you're my peripherals are pretty

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good. >> Okay. Sorry, but this is the one that I made edits to. Okay. >> But I think it was stuff that was irrelevant. I believe we deleted

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>> what's >> that is just needs to be witnessed by Paul. So, >> hey Le just making sure you know that I'm here. >> Yeah, we got you. We see here.

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Okay. >> No, I'm still here. >> Can you hear me? I'm still here. >> Yeah, we hear you. >> Oh, sorry. >> I just couldn't see you on the screen. >> I don't think I can sign with that color. Do you have a black pen?

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>> Yeah. [snorts] [laughter] [snorts] Take needs that. I'm actually good. Doesn't matter right now. >> Please just be so kind just to sign right there for me. [clears throat] Thank you very much

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to join my wall of fame. Thank you. You're welcome. >> [snorts] >> Can I show you? >> Oh, sure. Thank you very much. And if you would like, what I could do is take the liberty of bringing this to assessing so that they could record the

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correct book and page for the property if you like and then I can handle the recording for you. >> That would be awesome. I believe that town council signs off on these as to form. So what I'll do is provide this to Ralph for the meantime if that's acceptable and then after everything's been signed off on. We're

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ready to execute it. I will go ahead and record that. >> Perfect. >> So everything should be done now for the bill. [laughter] He's He's better for Max, but >> I know it's only the second one, so we're we're getting there.

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>> Well, they sell money. >> Oh, beautiful. >> Awesome. All right. So, [snorts] we don't have to do anything else with the better. >> Nope. And if you could possibly take uh D out of order and do that one next. >> Okay, cool. >> Oh, sure. >> Thank you. >> So, storm water. >> Yes.

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>> Okay, sure. So, can I just get somebody to make a motion to go out of order? >> Uh, GD. >> What is it? >> Uh, the new business says GD, but it should be >> Wait, I don't have that.

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>> I don't have that either. >> New business. >> I have A through D. >> Y >> Oh, I have D. >> I don't have anything there. Yeah. So, it's new business is G and D. I don't know.

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>> G. >> So, you're saying D. We're going to go to storm water. >> Yes. >> Okay. Sure. Yeah. I just need somebody to make a motion to go out of order. >> I make a motion to go out of order. Second. >> All right. So, we're going to go right

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to storm water. Sorry. >> Give me a minute to get that. Um just the um the board has it actually the board had should have in its packet um the health agent showed me there are two um two memos uh one memo the initial

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memo came in in June um on the which called um uh for the uh the stormwater committee that unfortunately that memo wasn't from the entire planning board it was primarily from the uh from the chair

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The second memo we received was um authorized by the planning board and it is sort of a reassignment of duties uh um to fulfill storm water obligations. I think what prec what I know what

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precipitated this was um um the stormwater committee is looking at revising their regulations. this, if you've looked at, you know, if you've looked at the regulations, it's it's not it's not a wholesale provision, um, a

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lot of it, um, a lot of what we have in place is is driven by the EPA, by the federal by the federal regulations. So, it's pretty much lock step lock step with that. Um and as as um you know at um a previous uh board of health meeting

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I think there was um a vote to to take to take storm water away uh away from from border health. So right now we are um at an inflection point like what do we do what do we do with the storm water committee? I mean if it's does it you

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know uh is it going to stay on the board of health? Does it go to the board of selectmen or or do we just or or do we move on from that? Tomorrow evening at the um at the selectman's meeting, I'm I'm going to bring that up in the county administrator's report. We're not

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looking for any decision. So almost sort of give me the authority to speak to to um to different boards and different committees. I'll talk to different towns to see how how um other you know how our storm water um evolved

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and how do other uh how other communities do it and are there any um are there any efficiencies that we can make that would make this a a smoother process. It's a little clunky right now. So, um I think what we want to do is is

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smooth it out. But um I'm here to answer answer any questions as as it relates uh uh to storm water and uh what no real presentation tomorrow night. Just sort of go over just the regulations what they are and um then I'm going to be

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taking a look at it. Um because ultimately [snorts] um if you saw the storm murder um regulations, a lot of it still shows um board of health board of health the an agent of the board of health, you know,

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gives board of health gives the still more committee authority to act. So um regardless, we have to, you know, if it's not going to stand with the board of health, we have to take a look at that before it gets presented to town meeting. That's if you have any questions.

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>> I don't have any read through all the documents. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> There you go. I was here to notoriize it in case I need it. You needed me and brought up the store. It's good.

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[laughter] >> Perfect. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. Um, authorization of signatures for invoices and payroll. >> So that was >> hot topic. >> Yes.

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>> Who do we have sign? We try to eliminate constantly asking you guys the signatures. >> Ralph's today. >> Yeah. Yeah, I wish Rafford had been

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here. I think >> Do you think you can grab him? Um, [clears throat] >> I think as of right now, everything's going to be status quo >> of us signing, >> I believe.

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>> I didn't hear anything that [snorts] >> All right. So maybe we should while we're waiting. >> Well, let's use Shane Graphman, but I think >> it's our responsibility to sort of get this on the record here. Um, so people who are watching the video know what

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we're talking about and we're not just talking amongst ourselves here. Um, so there has been an issue um where well, let me backtrack. for right now. Every week I'm sent payroll by Ashley and when

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Ashley's not here it's Liz or before Ashley's time it was Liz. Um so I'm signing off on payroll for um for um the person who we contract with Jerry

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>> um for Ashley for Liz for the nurse for us. Um, so the problem is, um, I'm getting emails from the town accountant that there's an error on someone's time sheet or there's an error in ours. Um,

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so I feel as though and and I brought this up with somewhat, you know, frustration. I'm not here to police somebody's working hours. I don't know if Ashley took time off to go take her baby to the doctor or somebody took the

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afternoon off. I don't know. I'm not a full-time employee. I'm not a part-time employee. I work once a month um for meetings or I work if there's a phone call that comes in or a text message or I'm sent something by email to sign a

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permit. If I'm not available, it goes to Vinnie. So Vinnie does the same thing that I would be doing. And if both of us aren't available, he referred to Chris. Um, so that's there has been that issue where for me, for example, I'm getting,

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like I said, emails from the town captain that I'm not doing something right. Um, so it's frustrating because I'm only committee member. So I can't police what somebody's doing. So we're just trying to figure out what do other committees

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do. I just I personally feel as though I shouldn't be signing off on payroll. >> I'm just a committee member. I could be totally off. I could be totally wrong. I don't know what other committees do. >> Mr. Woods here used to sign payroll for sewer. So Ralph did say that the

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committee members do sign payroll like the selectman sign his payroll. >> Okay. >> So the the payroll would have to stay with you. He can find out about all the other invoices. Like if Ashley's processing them, >> I can sign aren't really an issue. It's just the payroll,

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>> right? >> That's an issue. I just I don't know, Woody, maybe you have Do you have something you want to add to that? I mean, the frustration is that, you know, I'm signing off on payroll and um you know, I'm getting emails that I'm not

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doing something right or somebody's time sheet isn't right. And I just I feel as though I can't police somebody's what they're working. I don't know what they're working. So I can't be in the office to to see what they're doing. >> Number one, Tammy, um you're not on a

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committee, you're on a board, and you're on a very powerful board. >> The board of health has a lot of power, >> right? >> But now you have an office manager, >> right? So I always relied on my office manager to take care of like we have uh

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part-time employees that take care of the pump stations and stuff like that. We really have no idea how many hours they spent in that pump station either. >> Right. >> Um but kind of you have to take their word for it and you honor it. You know, you hired a good trusted person. >> Correct.

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>> And you know, you basically can tell how long it takes him to do his work more or less. You know, it's it's give or take, but really you have to rely on your your manager to do that and and the chairman of the board. And you

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can have signature Aries they call them >> to sign off too. So you wouldn't have to be the only one to sign off on payroll, >> right? Yeah. I think all three of us. >> Yeah. One of one of you is kid. But um Serena, the town accountant, I think she does a phenomenal job. She is really on

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the ball. Um and she does an outstanding job. As long as I've been involved in the town, I don't think we've ever had a town account as good as >> her. >> She does a great job. you know, I can I can [clears throat] I can to to to what what he's saying. In industry, it's the

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same thing, right? So, in private, if you work for me and I say I've got 20 employees, well, I'm not going to police 20 employees, right? I'm going to count on you. You fill out your time sheet that those are the hours that you work, right? And if you were incorrect, okay, then now you're you're going to be you're going

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to be in trouble. It's going to be on it's going to be on you. you know, it's not necessarily only me because again, you can't police everybody. You can't watch everybody's hours and what if there's an emergency or something? It's it's an it's an honesty thing. I mean,

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so um you know, that's what that is what we we have to um we have to count on. And it's like I don't think there's any other way that that you can do it. Yeah, >> you know, we have to do the best that we can do

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>> and then if there's some type of mistake or some something happens like you said, you know, Ash's got to go take her baby there something has to happen and Serena catches it. Well, she's the sound accountant. That's her job, right? So, I I don't

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>> you know I think that we have to do that um sign the payroll. Um, you know, I did have a brief conversation with um with Ralph and there are some things that we we have to sign. I think that I think that's wonderful. >> But if we just rely on that and then,

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>> you know, if >> Well, that was my feeling. I mean, Ashley is an adult, you know, we need to take whatever Ashley says, if she presents us with time sheets or with something to sign off on that she, you know, has put her work in into that

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particular form. And I take it as >> it was my time sheet because I ended up coming in over the weekend. So I changed my time sheet when I submitted it. I didn't realize they split June and July. So it was on supposed to be on two

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different time cards. So I submitted 30 28 hours like a normal week and it shouldn't have been because I guess it was June ended on what Tuesday or Wednesday >> and then July was a different one. >> That's fine. >> So that was my error. >> That that's fine. And you know, yeah,

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it's an error. People make mistakes. >> I can't pay you for this. I'm like, I don't know what happened, but okay. >> So now we know, you know, going forward. And >> I mean, and and again, you know, people are human. Mistakes happen. You know, we

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we have to go with what is presented to us. And then, you know, if there's something like that, it's some, like you said, the weekend's here, it starts here, whatever, whatever it is, the quarter, I mean, that's fine. And Serena catches it, it's okay. But I don't think we can again maybe we can we could I don't know

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if we want to table this at this point and then make absolutely sure we know with Ralph if that's the case but I think that we are >> I respect that. I mean it's it's part of our duties. If it's part of our duties >> the only thing that you could possibly get rid of is the billing like you don't

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have to sign bills. If they allow me to sign it then processes it. I sign it. So there's two people verifying it. >> Yeah. That would be great. >> And that is the way that it really should be because >> Diane was authorized to sign your bills, right? >> Yeah. Because you're the ones who see

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the invoices. You're the ones who see the contracts. You're the ones that know, you know, you you guys put the spreadsheets together. >> Yeah. >> Sending that to us. I mean, we if it goes to me, I mean, I look over and I look at the numbers. Unless it's something that looks totally out of whack, you know, I'm going to sign it because I'm trusting that you guys have

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>> Yeah. >> I think that's fair. And I think going forward that would be a great plan. If you can take care of the bills, it would just be less on me. >> Not to extend the conversation because it sounds like we're coming to a conclusion. What's still not clear to me though is do we know for a fact that all

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com all committees, all board are responsible for signing payroll? >> Yes, that's what we're just verified. Yeah, because Woody's been with the town for a very long time. >> Uh and and he he actually sat on quite a few different divisions. So it sounds like that's the way that

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>> that's the way that if that's nothing we can do. [clears throat] >> Ashley's been doing a phenomenal job. >> Yeah. >> I think that week I'm trying to help her cuz I don't want to overload her with everything. So I was like I'll just do it myself and I was wrong. So I should just give her her job. [laughter]

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>> Well, with you doing the bills, it's going to be super helpful to me. Um because then, you know, because I I feel like if I see something come through or Ashley will send me a message, hey, I just sent you something. Sometimes I feel stressed if I'm doing something, you know, and I got to stop the right

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account number. You're not going to know that, >> right? >> So with me doing it, I can check the account number. Hey, you use the right one. Good. We'll sign off. But you you're trusting your >> That's right. >> So it would be best if we did it in house, >> right?

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>> I can get back. We can table that one, but the payroll you do have to sign. >> Okay. All right. So, we're not going to really spend too much more time on that because it um >> make a motion to table U item GB.

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I second. >> Okay. >> Oh, I >> I motion passes. >> I'll get back to you on the invoices. We have to get Miss Serena on it. >> She's not here yet today. >> Okay. All right. So, we're going to move on to town nurse responsibilities.

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Becca, are you still here? >> She's gone. >> She's gone. Yeah. >> Oh, it says three. >> No, she's there. Maybe she's just here. >> I'm still here. >> Okay, >> I'm here. >> He's the backup health agent. >> No, he's the architect.

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>> He's a designer for CNN. >> Are they on the schedule? No, he's coming on uh items not reason. >> Okay. All right. So, why don't we um just stick with the town nurse responsibilities. It shouldn't take us that long. Um and then we can jump right

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into the um the next category. So, Becca, so we were talk we've been talking about um your position. Um so, I think we've asked a couple of times if we can just get a report. I realize that you can't be here every week or I'm

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sorry, every month. Every month. If you can just give us a, you know, a quick report of what you've done just because we need to be able to if anyone questions us being the board, you know, any [clears throat] of the town officials or residents and they want to

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know um, you know, a breakdown of what exactly um, the town nurse does. we just need to be able to provide that information because we want to be as transparent as we possibly can. So, if you could just please um just submit a report or be here on Zoom and I we're

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not expecting that you're gonna be here in person and Zoom is totally fine, but if we could just get a quick report from you, you can give it to the girls if you can't be here, especially you had said earlier that you're off on Tuesdays and I realize that you probably didn't want

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to spend your day off with us, which is totally fine. >> No, that's [laughter] I don't mind at all. I um sometimes just like when I'm trying to log into the um the Zoom link actually doesn't work. Um sometimes >> even if you give a written report is that is totally acceptable.

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>> Sure. >> Were you able to were you able to open the one that I had emailed over today? >> No, I I uh when you texted me, I emailed to myself and printed it out. >> Oh, okay. I'll have to see why that

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didn't open. But um is that type of report good? I based it off what Nicole had been previously doing. >> It was Was that part of that one? The extension was thought pages, right? It was >> It was this one, but I think what she sent it on it was like a JPEG and I

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couldn't open it. >> Open it either. >> Is it possible that the report could be a little bit of in a narrative format? I I like the it's itemized, but if you're not going to be present to explain what this is. Yeah, we don't know. It's a little confusing. >> And to be honest with you, I can deduct

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from what it means, but that's not the goal, right? I want to be able to tell anyone in the town like this is what happened, right? >> And so in a descriptive format would be great if you could or just being be if you could make it work. >> Yeah. No, no problem. I can definitely

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do that. >> And just you could just put it in the body of an email. Totally fine. It doesn't have to be an attachment. It doesn't have to be anything fancy. just so we have an idea of what you've done. And we definitely missed you at the farmers markets, the last two of them.

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You were a total hit. I could not believe how many people uh got their blood pressure checked. >> I know. I'm I'm sorry I couldn't make the last ones. I was in um in India. >> We'd love to have you the next one or the one after that. So, all right. So,

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that's all we have. We don't want to, you know, keep you and uh that's that's the basics of what we have for you. If you can just submit every month, that would be awesome. >> Absolutely. I can definitely do that. >> Do I know it's it's it's hard because

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it's usually this is kind of last on our agenda. So, um Oh, actually, you're usually up top there. So, but yeah, if you could if you could do that, that would be wonderful. >> Absolutely. I can. >> Thank you, Becca. We appreciate >> Thank you.

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>> All right. So, we're going to close new business and open up items not reasonably anticipated within 48 hours. So, what do we have? >> Okay. Do you know what? >> Is he still? >> No, they're still there. Three of them.

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There's still three people left. >> Says, are you still there? >> Yep. Oh, he is. >> Yes, I'm here. >> How are you? Sorry you had to wait so long. >> It's okay. got a little busier than we expected with information.

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>> No problem. >> So, I think you remember a few months back they came foot before the board because they wanted to do two apartments, two two-bedroom apartments at CNN Pizza. >> They made a discovery of a mystery

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septic tank. Um, once they started to plum the apartments, they noticed it ran to a different tank. So, they pulled up the pavement and found a mystery tank under there and they there's no record of it. So, they came this week to, you

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know, figure out what are they going to what are their next steps. I went out there with Jerry and Jerry recommends that they get a septic installer, uh, septic engineer, I'm sorry, an engineer. You need to know where that tank leads.

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So, if those apartments are going to come to that tank, you need to figure out where that tank goes. Does it connect to the leeching field in the back? And if that tank was installed in 1985 when the permit was pulled, then it

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needs to be upgraded to a 1500gallon two compartment tank. Um because that's a requirement of the state and anything before 96 is no longer valid. >> So I think that one was put in in 1985.

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So, I don't know if it'd be more cost-effective for you to just run it to the the septic system you already have or if you can figure out where it goes, but in the end, you will need to submit some sort of design plan showing how it

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all landed. That way, you know, it's on record. If [snorts] there's an issue, you know, somebody can just come in, look at the plans, and say, "All right, this is where everything is." Um, but you will have to submit a plan once it's all done.

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got any questions? >> Yeah. Uh thanks Liz for uh this introduction about the issue. Um um I already uh know or so all the story from the start to the end. I uh I

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figured out everything before I start talking to the to you and the board. Uh but before I get into what I found or what I've discovered about the tank, about the leeching area and so on and what the engineers said as well, uh I

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want to start with the the owner's question. He's asking and he's um he's so I don't know he's that question is so important for him. He's saying he's asking whose fault is this? He's trying to find out whose fault is

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this. >> That's a great question. It's back from 1985. So, I mean, who was on the board in 1985? Who was the building commissioner or the the health agent in 1985? >> We have no clue.

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>> What month in ' 85? >> I don't know. >> Okay. I just want to say I was like a baby [laughter] just trying to figure out. >> I mean, >> I was divorced. [laughter] >> That tells you >> the records. I looked at the installer and who

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submitted the plan and I looked up the company and I don't even think they're in existence anymore. >> So, I couldn't even trace back who who had um submitted that original edition. I don't think they're even a a company

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anymore. So, we there's no way we can trace it to who was responsible for it. Right now, all we can do is go forward. >> Yep. So, he's arguing about, he's telling me, "Hey, Carol, um, why you didn't figure it out from the beginning?

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Why you didn't put the camera inside the pipes and see where it's going?" So, anyone has a an answer for this? >> We would have never found it. And if you weren't doing that addition, that's true. >> Yeah. So,

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>> when did your client buy that building? >> Uh, 20 20 years ago. So, >> okay. 2000. >> Imagine 20 20 years ago if if we're going to well right now because he's he's he's putting everything on my

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shoulders. H I would be open [laughter] for you. This has been a tough one. >> What's that? >> I'm so sorry. This has been so difficult for you. >> Well, we for me I >> feels like we never have good news for you. >> What's that? >> Feels like we never have good news for

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you. >> [laughter] >> That's right. That's right. Like, well, no, I I I understand. I'm I'm working in construction since I was 9 years old. Now I'm 29. I I understand like construction happens. It and there is solution for anything. It's it's for

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him. It's just a matter of he doesn't want to pay. That's that's the thing. Okay. So, and and something else he want to try to do things unprofessional. And I'm not that person to do anything away from the town. I'm not gonna do that

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anywhere. So, uh, 20 years ago, it's so sorry. He owns the building since 20 years. And one of his bathrooms, I mean, the the the the customer's bathroom inside the restroom. Sorry, inside the restaurant, it's

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already connected to one to to that tank. So, he been using the building for 20 years. So >> using this this tank for that bathroom for 20 years. That's the first thing. Without knowing he didn't know about it.

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That's why he's saying that's that's for sure. That's I Yeah, I I believe him. He doesn't he didn't know about it. But as long as you don't know about it, how we how we going to know about it? Even the town. Well, I explained everything for him. So

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I told him it's not my fault. It's not the town fault. It's not the engineer fault. It's not the contractor or the plumber fault. But he's still think he's still saying Kira if you put the camera from the beginning you would know about

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it. But even if I told him no one would know that question about where the pipes tying to or where the pipes going to, it's never going to come to my to my head. Especially I found records or plans as belt for the

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for the septic tanks and we spend like nine months dealing with with the town about it and then we got the approval. So it's luckily that I found that it's not connected to that that that tank because like imagine I didn't put the camera to see where it's going and I put

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the camera I suggested that to him because he was scared about the pot. It was for different um it was for different reason. So we brought that camera to see if there if the pipes needs to be cleaned or something. That's it. But once we put

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the camera, we found it's going somewhere else and then it's going to big big thing. Then the guy told us it's there is a tank. There is something and he he used like um something to found where exactly the the tank it's it's

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like magnetic with the camera. And then we found it in front of the garage. Uh maybe Liz went over there. So that's the that's the big issue that I have. It's not about like the the solution for it. It's it's it's it's

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simple. Um but my issue with >> tell your client it doesn't matter if you found it then or if you didn't know about it, didn't know about it, the outcome is still the same. You still figure out where it's going. Has it ever been pumped? Because if it was buried

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under concrete, I that it was paved over. >> So that's inspected. Never been pumped. >> And you're saying the bathroom is connected to that? >> The customer bathroom is connected to that. >> Yes. >> Been emptied for 20 years.

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>> Yes. One of them is that somewhere >> can't even use it. >> You They're gonna use that old tank. No, they can't use that tank. >> No, but I'm just saying. But all those years of not being emptied or or pumped, >> it was filing somewhere.

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>> It must have been full to the top. >> Yeah, it was full. We pumped it up and luckily it's 1500 gallons. >> So they Yeah, I pumped it. I'm coming to the story about what I did. So [clears throat] >> in his mind,

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>> yeah, even if we figure it out or we know about it at the beginning, we would still we need we needed to connect it from inside. So that's what his we could he was saying Kira you could connect it from inside it would be worse or more expensive because we found two layer of

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concrete and then we would need to uh to have a hole in the foundation so we can run the b the pipe into the tank. So similar similar story, similar same thing. So um I'm I'm the project manager

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and the client's representative and I'm I have a contract between me and him with that a limited scope of work for the renovation. But um that's that's the the main issue. So for for what we found so far, we found the tank. I hired two

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people with two different cameras to make sure where is the tank at and so on. And then we started excavating and then we found a tank and we we put a riser, we covered it and then we um we

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uh pumped it up. We pumped 1500 gallons. Uh and um the tank looks good, but the tank is going somewhere right to um

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uh do you remember the thing that been used before the liching area? It's got something called like you know like um like a circle or or um >> pool. Is it connected to a cesspool? Yeah, it's something back in the days

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they've been using it. And then I hired someone to do uh just a volunteer inspection, someone with a like um sorry, volunteer. Yeah, volunteer inspection or uh title five, but just verbally to see where is it. So he found

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it. It's it's close to it's by the property line. Okay, that mean it's going to fail. So, if we found that tank connected back to the leching area, we would be fine. But we didn't it it it's not connected to the leching area at the

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in the back. So, the engineer suggesting to connect it to tie it directly from outside. So, like we're going to have u a a pump or something in the tank or a pipe or something to take everything

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directly to the to the actual tank. um that that's what what's in the in the as belt. So he's going to have drawings for us with the stamp and I'm going to provide it to you and uh you know um

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he's going to draw everything for us to to start ex executing it. And by the way we have finished everything inside literally everything that's the only thing remaining and we found it at the end of the project. Well, our engineers said the same thing. So, it would be way more costefficient

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to connect it to the leech and field in the back. If you're going to run the pipes to the existing tank, you're going to dig up. >> You can't go into the the the building and the whole parking lot is beved. >> So, project, >> it would be a huge project to try to connect.

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>> It's even cheaper from outside because it's just we're going to excavate or we're going to dig into just the asphalt. But inside there is two there was two layer of concrete. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And the foundation as well. >> Yep. >> So um so right now we're on the same

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page with uh your engineer and our engineer. Um I'm going to move forward to to ask the engineer to start to have the drawings and then u you know I'll provide it. I'll I'll I'll send it to you to review it. But um I'm just a

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little bit I'll be very transparent. I'm I'm a little bit um I would say it this way and like worry about the client and what's what he might do. Um, so is there anything

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that like I want to stop the project or something until I provide the drawings and make everything uh going as professional as we want or uh because he's like he is in his mind I'm going to hire someone else other than Kuro and

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he's going to do it and I'm going to pay because he's holding the money on me. So, and I need that money to pay what's in the past and what's coming up and he doesn't want to pay for the change order. Um I know this this is a different story but it's connected or

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it's it's it's it's connected to what we were talking about. So um there is no way for him to get the the certificate of occupation without doing that. Right. >> Here we can >> Okay. Is is there anything like a piece

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of paper that's saying holding the project until something or until we do this? Um, so because they don't have a septic permit with us, we will have to lean on the building department to find out if

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they can hold they have the right to hold it until you're paid. Um, I'm not sure how the building department works to be honest. Uh, but I can find out for you. Please, I need to uh I need him to understand I need I told him the main

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reason to to to go back to the board of health right at that time is because I couldn't convince him he did he doesn't want to understand from me or from the contractor or from the engineer then okay I will let the town tell you this

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so I will need a piece of paper saying that issue and because of that issue, we're going to have to hold on the project or on the construction or continue the work until this issue need to be done because I'm not going to take the risk for the client or on behalf of

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the client. There's no way to do that. And I and by the way, I I have to say I took the the oath on the in the college. Um I hold the bachelor degree in architecture engineering and he doesn't know that. He I I usually go straight forward with things but I I can't do

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snake stuff. So, uh, I need help from the town. Actually, >> I'll let the building department know that the septic is not tied in. So, they will not release a certificate of occupancy until we have proof that that septic system is tied in somewhere. >> Yeah.

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>> Okay. Uh, last question. Um, by any time can he hire like the permit is opened with under our name, the building permit and everything. Is there any way for him to hire someone from outside and do anything without letting

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us know without our permission? >> It would have to be something. Did he sign a contract with you? That would have >> Yeah, I I do have a I do have a contract with with him and I have a contract with the GC and everything set up very well.

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But I mean because of what that's what he said. He's like he want to hire someone else other than us to do the work. And I told him, "Man, we we the permit the building permit is under our name. He can't do that, right?"

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>> I'm not 100% sure if he can you can you fire your contractor and hire somebody else. >> Yeah, that's that's not something unfortunately the town can help you with. >> We can't control if he fires you and hires somebody else. >> We can't we can't control it. We can't

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tell him he needs to pay you either. And I understand your frustration but or we understand your frustration. Um but unfortunately that's not something that we are responsible for. >> Here's here's what my input would be and like not just from being in business,

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right? Would be he signed a contract with you. A contract is binding, right? You both signed it. If he decides that he doesn't want you any longer. And again, I'm just saying this. I don't know what the contract speaks, but if we did that, he's responsible to pay because of the contract. If he hires

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someone else, they have to start all over again. He's going to have to start from the beginning. >> Yeah. >> And start all over and probably pay double. So for him, >> it's better to stick with you because you're already there. Or it's like if it was me and I was you, if I was you, and

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again, I'm just saying this not as a board member. I'm just saying that if I was in business, I'd be okay fine. You want to hire somebody else? Here's what you owe me. You pay me. And now that person that you hire is going to have to do the whole business over the whole job over again, and now you're paying

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double. It's up to you. I mean, if he wants to do that, he pays you. But that's again, I haven't seen a contract, but that would be typically how you can't once you sign the contract. It's like you you really can't break it unless it depends on the stipulations in

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the contract, you know. But >> yeah, >> if all of those are fine, then he owes you the money no matter what. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay, we're we're uh we're good. Um it's just I was asking about maybe that's a question for building

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department. So I will write an email for less to for that and uh the other thing. Uh it's it's both with the building uh department. Um, >> so yeah, >> here's one other piece of you might want to like take the contract, take it to a

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lawyer, have the lawyer read it over, make sure that it's all, you know, that would be my suggestion, >> and then u and then go from there. And if he wants if he wants to hire somebody else, that's his prerogative. You can certain do that, but again, once you sign the contract, you know, that's

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that's that's binding. >> It's he's the >> even if he hires somebody else, he's going to end up in the same situation. is still going to need >> but my question even for the future knowledge can anyone else open a permit

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a building permit while our build our permits open under our name >> that's a good question >> a new permit >> pull a new permit >> yeah they can just pull a new permit >> can someone else pull pull up a permit >> they're saying yes

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>> okay >> it just be under their name. >> Okay, got it. Anyways, there's a contract. >> Yeah, >> the seller had a contract with an installer and then the buyer came in and said, "I want to use my guy."

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>> All right. So, that makes sense. >> It was however that contract was written. It's had nothing to do with us. >> Totally. >> We were able to issue another permit. You didn't spend money then, >> right? >> Another permit. >> Yeah. >> Yep. Yeah. I definitely would consult

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with an attorney and just make sure. >> I will. I will. Okay, sounds good. I will wait le to uh get back to me regarding to uh to that uh matter email and then I'll make sure the building department knows that this septic system

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is not done. >> They cannot the occupancy until that system is proof it's connected. >> Okay, [snorts] sounds good. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. Thank you for your patience of waiting. I'm sorry you had to wait for so long, but it was

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>> good. >> Oh, good. I understand. Thank you so much. >> You're welcome. >> Yep. Bye. Bye. >> Bye. Anything else? I'm done. >> All right. Correspondences. Nothing. Public input.

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>> Me. >> Come on up, Woody. >> Woody, you're the public. >> Excuse me. >> You're the public. >> Come on up. >> All one of you. I am the public. >> As of uh April 11th, I became the public. >> Ah, I'd like to

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>> meet you. Yeah. A lot of nice stuff about you. >> Oh, thank you. Um, Robert Woods, 158 Street. And I only came today because I wanted to hear what the town administrator had to say about the storm water committee because I served many years on it. And uh, you know, I see the

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importance of it and some people don't. And I understand why you b your board don't want to be involved because probably out of your realm, you know. >> Absolutely. >> But I don't want to see the storm water committee go away. I'd like to see it under the board of

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selectment or uh wherever it needs to be. But I I think >> that's what we were hoping for and I think that's when we had a a meeting with Nancy, I think that's the way it was described it was going to be and we were all for it. >> It was Nancy. It was

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>> we just didn't want to hold any we didn't want to hold them back, >> right? >> You know, >> and what what you said is true. It's like it [clears throat] it was it was NY's Nancy Gulak. It was her suggestion to take it out and we were totally on board because we said what we said is like

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>> you know all these rules and regulations we don't know that you know you know is that like the back of >> No Ig and I understand >> we agreed and we were like >> I didn't know that the until I read that do we read that document that that's where where they were going with this >> for the way that we left it and we had

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sent the letter to Ralph to be >> hey we totally agree make them their own separate committee and >> the only reason I came today Because the storm water committee, nobody could come because they had a meeting the same time as John. >> Oh, gotcha. >> So, you know, I was talking to a couple of their members and they said, "Well,

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if you could go to the board of health." >> No, that's great. >> And to see what's going on. >> But yeah, I I strongly support the storm water committee because I've seen the work they've done. >> Oh, they've done a great job. >> The work that they're doing still, >> right? >> And the work that your board is doing since you guys became the new board of

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health. I think you're doing a fantastic job. >> We're trying hard. Tammy said to me one day, "What do you haven't been coming to our meetings lately?" That's it. [laughter] But don't get me wrong, I watch them >> and everything. I think everything you guys are doing a great job. Thank you. And if there's something that I didn't

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like or didn't agree, I'd be here. >> But thank you all. Pleasure meeting you. >> Don't wait until we're doing something wrong. We'd like to see you in person. >> It's actually nice to look out there and see a person trying to be a retired person now. >> I know. I get that. you know, and

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>> but we only meet once a month. So, >> I know I'm trying to, you know, I'm on social media, so you won't see me there. >> And I know that you're trying to get more people at your >> farmers market, right?

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>> Do you advertise in the Strawberry? >> I think we do. We did. >> Yeah. >> Because that's like the biggest red publication in town. >> It's the It's the only red publication, >> right? I mean, and they do a good job. They do an excellent job. >> Yeah. Yeah, they really do. >> I mean, if you have any ideas, we're

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trying. >> Yeah. Council on agent is doing fantastic work now. You know, >> at the library, >> the whole crew over there, >> they're doing a fantastic job. >> Laura does a really good job at strawberry. >> I mean, we got to go because I've been here way TOO LONG.

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>> OH GOSH. >> My boss is waiting. >> Yeah, I know. But you know, the wife wants to go up. >> Oh, there you go. Good to see you. Thank you so much. Good to see you. >> Bye. >> Come again. >> I will. [laughter] >> All right. So, moving on to approve

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meeting minutes from 63 and 616 of 2026. If you can get a motion for that. >> I make a motion to approve the meeting minutes for 63 2026 and 616 2026. I second. >> I get a vote. I

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>> I motion passes. Looks like our next scheduled meeting is August the 18th. >> Um, >> so we're going to switch that to the 19th >> the counter license at 5:30. Liz. >> Yeah. So the 19th at 5:30.

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>> I'm going to put that in my calendar right away so I can make sure I have it available. And that's it. That was a a big agenda, guys. >> A biggenda. As long as we get a motion to adjourn. That would be wonderful. >> I make a motion to adjourn. I second. vote. I motion pass. I'll see everyone

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next month. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. It's amazing.