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Part 1 (Video ID: Bg5sgWJ_haI):
- 00:00:19: Meeting Opening, National Grid Verizon Pole Public Hearing
- 00:03:12: Class 2 Motor Vehicle License Public Hearing Continued
- 00:04:59: Library Grant Funded Part-Time Position Discussion
- 00:10:03: Announcements: Plant Sale, Food Bank, Memorial Ceremony
- 00:11:41: Alice's Last Stop New Alcohol License Public Hearing
- 00:14:25: Public Comment: Questions for Alice's Last Stop
- 00:14:40: Closing Public Hearing, All Alcohol License Approval
- 00:15:14: Dyer-Dighton School District Budget Update Discussion
- 00:23:40: Joint Meeting with Finance Committee Opening Remarks
- 00:24:41: Reserve Fund Transfer: Ambulance Repair & Conference Attendance
- 00:29:28: Warren Article Review: Highway Truck Funding Agreed
- 00:31:13: Police Department Vehicle Financing Discussion Begins
- 00:50:27: Creative Funding: Leasing, Fleet Maintenance, and Trade-Ins
- 01:13:50: Vote and Decisions: Leases and Removing Articles
- 01:28:58: Department Budget Changes Discussion with BOS and FINCOM
- 01:35:59: Bylaw Recommendation, Home Rule Petition Discussion
- 01:44:21: Two-Minute Recess before Fire Station Building Presentation
- 01:48:19: Lero Hill Fire Station Building Presentation Overview
- 02:06:05: Fire Station Proposed New Site and Building Concept
- 02:16:50: Discussion on Funding Sources and Next Steps
- 02:26:50: Public Input - 250th Anniversary Committee Announcements
- 02:30:46: Public Input - Dayton Lions Club Cow Chip Festival Invitation
- 02:34:58: Selectman's Report, Town Administrator's Report, Other Business


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miles. >> That was last time. Yeah, >> recording in progress. >> All righty. So, we are returning from executive session. It's 603 and we're going to get right into our uh public hearing. So, we have a public hearing

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for Mass Electric Company doing business as National Grid Verizon New England petition for full hearing and I will entertain a motion to open the public hearing. >> We'll make that motion. >> All right, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> I will second. >> All righty. Motion to second. All in

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favor? I >> I All righty. Is there anyone here for the poll hearing? Yes. Uh this is Aaron from National Bridge. >> Awesome. All right. The floor is yours. >> All right. Good evening. Uh my name is Aaron Roy uh representing National

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Bridge, 1250 Braves Point Road uh in Somerset. Uh tonight, National Bridge requesting um a new Vizan uh pole between existing pole 54 and 55 Main Street. Um, this pole will allow us to put, uh, some feeder, what we call

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feeder monitors on them. Um, uh, they do everything from tell us current, voltage, um, any faults, uh, so on and so forth. And, uh, we're we're asking for this location because it's, uh, very close to the the very beginning of the

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substation. Um, that gives us, uh, the most details and and, uh, the best uh, the best spot for this for this device. So, Any questions or comments from the board? >> No, I heard everything last month that I I needed to hear.

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>> Awesome. >> And every all the abiders were properly notified. >> Yes. And we have >> to my knowledge they were. >> Okay. >> And we also have um in in the uh in the file a note from uh from highway superintendent compared

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the location. if it's the area and there should be no visible issues. Any um correspondence on this? Any any letters or anything from the Anyone here in the audience for the poll hearing? Anyone on Zoom?

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Okay. Any motions for uh to move this forward? >> The chair close the meeting. >> I'll entertain a motion to close the public hearing. >> Make that motion. >> All right. We have a motion. Is there a second? I'll second. >> Any discussion? All in favor?

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>> I. >> Okay. Any motions on this? >> I make motion to approve. >> All right. We have a motion to approve. Is there a second? >> I'll second the motion. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> All right. Motion carries. Thank you. >> Thank you very much.

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>> Okay. All right. Uh, next we have a a public hearing for a class 2 motor vehicle license. Steven Remy of Rey's Auto Sales, doing business as Rey's Auto LLC, 2387 Winthr Street. Do we have a motion

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to open the um public hearing? >> I make that motion. >> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I um Mr. Chair, we received correspondence from Mr. Rey's attorney

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uh requesting a continuence to the June 10th uh voter license. >> Okay. >> Uh just just have to scrap some stuff away. >> Is there anyone here for that public hearing >> through the chair? Um because the

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applicant isn't here, we cannot take public testimony through this here. >> Okay. All right. >> All right. Make the motion to continue. >> All right. We have a motion to continue. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor?

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>> Motion carries. >> June 10th. We'll see you then. >> June 10th. >> Yep. The the applicant isn't here, unfortunately. So, >> all right. The 6:15 public hearing. Do we have to wait for that?

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>> Yeah, we have to wait till 6:50. >> Um, all right. I'll entertain a motion to take uh Marknik out of order. >> Oh, hi Mark. Um, I'll make that motion. >> All right, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> I'll second.

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>> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. >> All right, Mark. We'd love to have you up here. Thanks. I bet you thought you were down there. The budget never. We love having you. >> I'm happy. Okay. So, I believe the town administrator

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submitted the uh memo in there. I think that captured pretty much everything. Um I had a retirement and through attrition. Um we'll go with the grant funded part-time position. It's a non-unit position. Um the grant funds are there. The trustees approved the job

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description. I met with HR and the town administrator um to approve the job description as well. I understand there's a process for hiring. I just want to make sure all my tees are crossed, all my eyes are dotted before I move forward uh with posing the position.

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>> Awesome. Any any discussion on that? >> Any questions? >> What's the anticipated start date? >> Um I would like to start Let's see. We'll post a couple weeks. I'd like to start before July 1st. >> Okay.

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>> Yeah. >> Perfect. So it's after town meeting. So we already know the budget will >> Yes. Yes. I'd like to start. Right. Right. >> And do you have to get any confirmation from the the grant that um this is approved or allowable? >> No. No. Not. Uh it's it's unrestricted.

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Um it's to be used for whatever library trustees and library director discretion. >> Um it's part of what comes with being a Massachusetts certified library. It's the easiest grant you'll ever apply. Usually when you apply for a grant, you apply, you say, "Oh man, I hope I get it." With this grant, as long as you're

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certified, um it's not I hope we get it. how much will we get? Um, and so there there there's enough to cover the funds for this particular position. I know it's risky covering a position with grant funds, but like I said with with certification, I'm confident there's no doubt behind there will be enough coming

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in to cover the position to keep it going. Um, which is why I felt comfortable enough putting it in the grant funded position. The only thing that I noticed um I guess more question for you is I I didn't see

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it's I think 18 hours a week or 19 and I didn't see it said nonbenefit after that and I think in some other part-time job descriptions I've seen where it kind of clarifies that there it's not eligible for benefits. So I don't know what the thought is on just adding that

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nonbenefited after the hours. It is 19 hours. >> 19 hours. >> 19 hours. >> We decided 19 hours was specifically to make it a non-benefited position. >> Right. >> So that was the 19 hours was decided for that specific reason and you know >> awesome. >> Yeah.

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>> That way the applicants know when they have a fair notice when they're deciding if they want to apply. Is that >> Yeah, we can uh I mean the job description falls under the uh the purview of the board of libraries trustees. So this evening um we can we

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can easily make that amendment in the job description and then um we can put on the posting. So uh we're seeking the library director is seeking sort of approval for the posting and then I you

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know we had discussion and we um the request is uh to do an internal posting first to see you know to see see what happens there. >> For a period of time we were in a hiring freeze. Has that been lifted? Is that is

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that hiring freeze? >> Well I as a uh through I think this was this was part of the uh director's budget presentation >> because we because we our position is

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going unfunded. >> Right. Right. So, so you know if u I know if we were to have a hiring freeze hiring freeze we would look at positions that are already existing not hiring new not hiring for new positions but this is

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uh the existing position is unfunded uh this is part of you know part of a grant and part of the of the uh director's budget >> fully grant funded not coming out of the municipal appropriation. >> Awesome. Yeah. And again to keep to keep the certification so he can continue to

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get those those grants. >> Nice. Any other any discussion? If not, I'll entertain a motion. >> Quick question. Can can I assume we hopefully like renew this with additional grant money in the next year? >> Oh yeah. Yep. Absolutely. Yep. Yep. And

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again, the 1900 was budgeted specifically for the benefits, but it also carries the additional benefit of coming in under of what the grant has conveyed the last couple years. So I'm not spending more than what I'm taking in. >> Yeah. That that way the grant fund remains solid. So yeah. Yeah.

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>> I'll make the motion to approve. >> All right. We have a motion. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. >> I. Motion carries. Thank you. Thanks for your creativity as usual. >> Thank you. Y thanks very much. >> We appreciate it. >> Thank you.

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>> All right. So it is we got two more minutes before we can have our next public hearing. Um read the uh announcements. >> Announcements. Okay. I will um entertain a motion for to take announcements out of order. >> I'll make that motion.

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>> All right. We have a motion. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I announcements. The Dyon Historical Society invites you to their annual plant sale on Saturday, May 16, 2026

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from 9:00 a.m. to 1 p.m. at the Dyton Historical Society, 1217 William Street, Dyon. Rain or shine. Next announcement, the Dyton's Dyon Lions Club Food Bank will be held on Saturday, May 16th, 2026

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located at the town hall 979 Somerset Avenue, lower level. Those are the announcements. >> Good job. Um, the chair, if I have one more announcement there, we had a a late uh sort of a late announcement and this

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is a also a point of pride for the town of Dyon. Uh, the 2026 Memorial Day ceremony. Um, it will be held Monday, May 25th, 2026 at 10:00 a.m. Uh, the Dykeman

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Memorial Day ceremony will take place at Veterans Memorial Park right here at 1111 Somerset Avenue. Please join us to honor the men and women who served our country. For more information, please contact the Veterans Department.

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Ceremony will be held in Awesome. We hope to see you there. >> All righty. >> Okay. So, uh, next we have a public hearing >> 10:00. >> 10:00 a.m. >> for a new on premise all alcohol license

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for Paul Boris Upcycle Edibles LLC doing business as Alice's last stop. And I have a motion to open the public hearing. >> Motion to open. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> Our motion carries. Is anyone here to

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discuss that? >> All right. You have the floor boards over to Brian. I don't know what you may have questions for me. you want to give us kind of an overview on what you're looking to do and accomplish?

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>> Sure. So, um, in the in the outset, the goal is really to preserve the legacy of what Alice has been, um, since Ryan's had it and before. Um, but with the investment over time, if you have the opportunity to maybe change the seating

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around and maybe put 10 or 15 seats of the bar area space in as well and expand the hours a little bit, maybe on Thursday, Friday, Saturday nights to offer a dinner seating is the long term. Awesome. >> Any questions from the

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>> No. questions that uh we want to try to keep much of the same menu. So >> yeah, I think in the in the very beginning the intention would be really not to rock the boat. I mean it's a busy restaurant came with um and over time

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really get to know the clientele and see what people are looking for and evolve. And I think probably the first place we would do that is expanding some of the service hours a little bit later on. So, this

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is a um this is a new license and it's allows you to serve any type of alcohol, correct? >> And you'll also have expanded hours you kind of just said as well. So, >> okay. Um well, Alice has been such a fixture of Dayton and I think it's great

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that um you're interested in in um making this work and I I have no issues with it. Uh, is there anyone from the public here to speak on this? All right. If you want to come come on up. >> Sure. >> Can have a seat if we have any other questions.

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>> I just have a quick couple questions. >> My name is John King. I live down a couple of houses down in Summer Avenue. Is there going to be entertainment? >> No, not at all. >> Nope. You have no plans put like a back in those places. Okay. That's my question.

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>> Awesome. Very good. Anyone else here? All right. Um, I'll entertain a motion to close the public hearing. Make that motion. >> Is there a second? >> I will second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. >> I. Motion carries. Any motions on the

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motion to approve the all alcohol license? >> Okay. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. Congratulations. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. Next we have Bill Rooney here to discuss

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the D rehab school district budget. >> Good evening. Thank you for having me. Um I appreciate the opportunity to be here tonight. I just wanted to uh briefly provide an update since the last time I appeared before the board of selectmen and the finance committee

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which was virtually on March the 10th and that was regarding the FY27 budget for the Dyer Hobith Regional School District. Um over the past couple of weeks I've been grateful to have productive conversations with town officials regarding budget expectations

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and assessment targets. Uh quite honestly, it became clear to me during that March 10th meeting that there were some disconnects in communication regarding what I understood the town's desired target to be. My understanding in prior conversations had been that the district should make every reasonable

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effort to approach 3% whilst the discussion at the March 10th meeting focused more heavily on a 2.5% expectation. Since that time, I've continued working diligently to identify additional efficiencies and opportunities to reduce the burden on both of our towns while

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still preserving the educational programming and student opportunities we're trying to build through our driving toward 2030 strategic plan. One significant development was the district receiving a $ 1.5 million uh career and technical education expansion grant. And

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while the majority of those funds are designated for facility modifications, equipment, and program startup costs, the grant also included approximately $176,000 in FY27 salary offsets tied to those new

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programs. I also want to emphasize that these new Chapter 74 programs are not simply additional expenses without long-term value. Approved Chapter 74 programs generate approximately $5,600 more per student instate reimbursement

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for our district. And as our enrollment continues to rebound, expanding in district opportunities help both attract and retain students who might otherwise leave for Bristol Plymouth or Bristol Agie. over time that not only increases district revenue but can also help

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reduce the tu tuition and transportation cost paid by our towns for vocational schools. For instance, the town of Dyon uh my research indicates that the student charges for BP and BA totaled $2.7 million last year.

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Last evening, I'm very pleased to share that our school committee recognized the importance of applying those grant funds directly to reduce the FY27 budget. As a result, Nightton's assessment increase was reduced from 3.15% to approximately

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2.59%, representing a reduction of roughly 7 $75,500. I believe this reflects a good faith effort by the district to respond to the town's concerns while continuing to move the district forward. Tonight, I am

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hopeful for your support as we move towards town meeting after several challenging budget cycles. I think it's important for us to avoid the uncertainty and instability that would come with operating under a 112th budget during the summer months. Stability certainly matters, especially for our

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students, staff, families, and both communities. I am very sensitive to the concerns, but as I have stated over and over, we should be fighting with the state, not with each other. and I appreciate your time and happy to try to answer any questions you might have.

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>> Awesome. Thank you. Any any comments? >> Well, thank you for uh it it was a tough meeting that March 10th and um sorry that it ended up ending the way it did. uh BC you had to to leave as well and um

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but I think the 2.59% shows um how much you guys care about the town of finances in the in the boat that we're in and I appreciate the hard work that you did. >> Thank you >> comments.

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>> Um as you know very recently elected this is in fact only my second second meeting. >> Congrats. >> Thank you. Thank you. Um much of what I had to say during my campaign and so forth was really about

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finances and keeping taxes uh as low as possible, >> right? >> And uh keeping costs down. So I I I I have to ask given how close we are to the 2.5, what would it take to get from 2.59 to

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2.5? probably 20,000 or so because I believe I believe when I presented at the March 10th meeting I was under the impression I was

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striving for 3% and I came in at 3.15 and I believe that represented a difference of around 21,000 or so. But what I can do is I can compute that to the penny and um email it to you tomorrow if that helps.

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Is there do you think there's a way we could get there? And honestly, my my reason for asking is I I want to try to hold all departments to 2.5 >> and by not doing so with any department would be taking money from those that

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that uh are potentially meeting the 2.5 limit. >> Yeah. um that that decision is ultimately the school committees. Um but I'm certainly just like we were continuing to look and and we're waiting hopefully with baited

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breath on the CTE grant which we did get. Um you know if if we continued to look for efficiencies and we find something then I'm more than happy to present that to the school committee. Uh the other thing that I would just say um just for some context for those that

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have kind of been here through my tenure um we went through some very significant attrition for a couple of years with cutting nearly 30 positions. So um we're still playing catch-up. So I'm I'm I'm proud of the 2.59. I understand where

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you're coming from and trying to have a baseline for everybody to get to 2.5. But there's a there's that historical context that I'm looking at as well. >> Can I ask what the percentage uh increase was from last year, the last year's budget? >> Um I could look it up, but I don't I

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don't I know that I know that these percentages um that the school committee approved last night are the lowest in my tenure. Um I want to say districtwide last year might have been 3.8. um town was probably low 3s maybe. Um so

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this this will be the even if it sits at 2.59 it would be the lowest that I've assessment that I proposed to the town in in my tenure. >> So traditionally it's been well above the 2.5. >> Correct. Y

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>> um I just want to thank you for always uh for keeping the board of election in the loop and of course our taxpayers and the town and uh looking at alternative methods of funding. You know, this is grant money that you're bringing into our district and it's benefiting our town. The last

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time you met with us, >> correct me if I'm wrong, I I believe we only had 30,000 or so, uh, Ralph in excess levy. >> Yeah. >> And now you're bringing in an additional 75,000. So, you're giving our town and

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our residents some wiggle room uh for the future, you know, with any of our our needs. So, I just I want to thank you for presenting to us, keeping us in the loop, and always looking for uh grants. You've done some amazing things in the district with all the grant money that you've brought in. So, >> thank you very much.

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>> Appreciate it. >> Appreciate it. Appreciate it. >> Awesome. Thank you. >> You too. >> Okay. So, next we have a joint meeting with the finance committee. >> Hi guys. >> Would you guys like to open your

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meeting? >> All right. >> Motion to open the May 13th, 2026 finance committee meeting. >> Second. All in favor? I >> We could just keep an eye here. Tom is

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supposed to call in once he lands. >> Um, we don't need to do the pledge since you guys, I'm sure, have already done it. >> We did. >> So, we'll jump right into it. So I was able to watch the recording on the meeting that I missed uh while I was away. Um I think from what I'm my

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understanding the primary point of contention is the funding articles around uh the highway department and the police right because we don't have enough money to go >> around through the finance chair. First up on the agenda for the finance committee is the reserve fund transfer.

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>> Okay. Karen actually had that second for us. >> Yeah, >> my apologies. >> Unless we get nervous, do you want to speak to that or we're good? If anybody has any questions,

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she's here on the first request for 23,000 for the England. Everybody's had a chance to read that. Everybody, um, so the 24,000 is to repair Ambulance 2, which had a catastrophic failure of the

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high-pressure fuel pump. Um it shot uh fine metal grindings throughout the engine and the engine had to keep going down. The whole fuel system had to be ripped hot um flushed and all the fuel lines, fuel, everything had to be replaced. So that's

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>> Was this request from free cash or was it this >> from the reserve fund? Are we not able to pay with the ambulance fund? >> Not without a town meeting. >> Not a town meeting. Okay. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that was my main question. Do you have um I know this seems to be

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it was unforeseen. Is there any indication after you get the work done that there's other things that are going to be done by Okay. >> Structure actually be finished tomorrow hopefully. >> Oh, cool. Who did the work and we get any kind of warranty

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>> with their work? Yes. >> Yeah. Now, do we know if we >> It's on >> the one I just >> read. You can chunk. >> I think at least 36,000. >> I was going to say 16.

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>> Oh, 16. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Any questions? >> Take a motion. Take a motion to approve the transfer from reserve fund in the amount of $23,000 for the ambulance repair equipment maintenance.

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>> Second. All in favor? >> I >> I >> I opposed. I have it. >> Uh second request. >> No, it's for me. >> Um I ran out of money to attend the

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conferences. I wasn't planning on attending March and then they needed teachers so I ended up attending. So that didn't leave um any funds left for the June conference. Um so I was hoping that the town could fund my attendance at the June conference. I looked at the

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speakers and they do have good speakers and relevant situations to what's happening in the town. So I didn't feel that um you know I wanted to be there to see what the state had to say and um guidance on some items that are coming up. Any

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questions on that? For education 15 1546 after would leave after a transfer here. >> No question. Okay. Take a motion to approve the request the amount of $1,000 for professional de uh development services.

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>> Second. All in favor? >> I have seven. >> Thank you. find. >> All right. So, um Ralph, do you want to take take the lead on this? >> Sure. U I I guess um does Jake start it?

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Am I rudely interrupted? Uh so so we're looking at Warren article review a few of the um uh you know we have a we have a new uh a new number for the for the school

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assessment but I think the first uh first and foremost there were four um four articles in the warrant uh addressing Katherine uh two uh two were Two were for a truck each for the

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highway department and the finance committee agreed to fund out cash. The second one there was no recommendation to do anything. Then uh and then the final two articles had to do with uh administrative vehicles uh

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for the police department uh administrator vehicle each. We don't have enough money in free cash to to fund fund that. So, uh the board of selecting and the finance committee requested the uh the chief come in to see uh it can we do some creative

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financing through leasing or anything of that nature to see if we could uh move that forward. So we have both the chief and the deputy chief here who did some we did some homework on it and we'll uh

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we'll present that to to both boards before we get into that discussion. We is everyone on the same page that we are I I believe we already discussed this. We're going to fund the plow truck. So articles

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um 16 free cash >> one of them. Correct. The other one. >> Right. So we're all on the same page on that. So we're really just here >> just to meet on the police. >> Correct. >> Okay. Are are you guys available to uh give us a tell us what you found? All

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right. Good evening everybody. So after the last meeting um we had a myself and deputy chief bridges met with member of the uh fincom and cabbage um met in my office went through all the uh

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inventory of the department um answered all their questions provided inventory uh sheets on mileage and um as well as an updated list we have tonight um I think that was already provided right the updated list with mileages and idle times and whatnot and um

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We were told to explore the options of doing a lease program. Um, lease programs were brought up a couple years back when it was uh presented for or talked about getting the cars and it was rejected that they didn't want to go didn't want to go down that

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road. So, it came up again. So, I was like, "Oh, great." You know, um the deputy chief I let speak. Uh he's been doing vehicle uh fleet maintenance in our department since uh Chief McDonald's been around when uh Sergeant Ducha retired. He pretty much asked Ryan to take it over and he's been volunttoled

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since. He's done an outstanding job with it and uh takes pride in what he does. So I'm going to let him speak on that behalf tonight because that's where I think uh a lot of the question is. So, I gave everybody a a kind of pamphlet of what we have for for cars

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and what what mileage is. And then it would be the next column is total hours. Those hours that the car's running the total hours and then on the average a car 1 hour of idle time equals I went I went with an average cuz goes from 25 to

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30 and Chevy does 33 to 34 miles for an hour. So, I went with 30 miles. So, that's the total miles on the vehicles under the hours. So, if you look, we we we have a 2026 that we just got in uh

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March. It's got,900 miles on it, 241 miles, so it's equivalent to 7,000 mi already on that car. We've only had it since March. Um and a couple of the other cars, I know if you look at the two, they're kind of like an orange color. Those are hybrids. So, the model's going to be cut in half cuz half

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the time the motor's running, half the time it's not. So, those are those look a little lower in case we're looking at that car. Um, the what our plan was was we could trade in the 2019 Taurus, which is equivalent to 140,000 mi, and the

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Nissan Rogue, which is almost at 100,000 mi. That didn't have an hour meter on it, so I wasn't able to see how many hours were on it. Um, we trade those two in, which would bring the lease down. Right now the quotes about 3500 each vehicle they would give us as a trade

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in. Um I can talk to them and maybe negotiate something a little better. Um so that would bring it down 3500. We would move cruiser 580 which is the hybrid currently being used as as an administrative vehicle up to the detective's car that still has a lot of

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life in it if you look at the mileage. Um and then I got the quote from Ford for the financing. So now it says I know it says 2027 Ford Explorer and it comes to 121. Um that number is not right cuz

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Ford has not released the 2027 pricing yet. So this is the 2026 pricing which there could be something left over on the lot but currently I was shooting for the 2027 pricing just to get you know a number but she came she gave me that number that includes the buildout from

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it that includes the police lights the radios the whole package that we would get they would do $545 underwriting fee and then we could go with either three or five years on the lease three years be 439339 five years would be the 28 a 40853.

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That's for two vehicles. At the end of the lease term, we have we have the option to buy the lease out or turn it in. We can buy it out for a dollar. So, we get that cruiser for a dollar at the end. There's no prepayment penalties. That would be the sheet after kind of goes down the whole the whole lease

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stuff, the municipal financing. Uh when we do sign the lease with Ford or when we do, you know, apply for the credit and do the lease with Ford, they send us the title and they're just the first lean holder. So, we have the title in hand. We make the make the 305 payment and at the end you can either we can

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either buy it out for a buck or we could go into a residual buyout and that'd be turn it in and they put the money towards it. Um, but a lot of these a lot of our Fords and Chevys, they're just not they're not holding up to what they used to be. I have a 2024

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Tahoe in there and it's still in the shop right now. Uh, this already had the motor the bottom half of the motor rebuilt um due to Chevy knowing the issue. If that car idles too long, it leaks oil. Um, so they rebuilt the bottom half of the motor. It went back

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and it's been there since cuz it's on back order. Had a a water pump leak already and now it needs a radiator. And that car is a 2024. If you look at the odometer, it's got 37,000 miles. So everything up to the radiator was covered under warranty, but because we drove it off the lot, it went 368,000

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miles. It had 36,800 miles. So now it's out of warranty. So we have to pay for the radiator, but it's equivalent to having 159,000 already. It's 24 just by the mileage. And that's the low side. Chevy came in at 175,000 idle time when he sent me the service

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invoice. >> What's the detective drive now? >> Uh he said 2020 2019, right? What will happen with that vehicle? >> That will get traded in. >> That's That's when it's going to get traded in. >> Yeah. >> So, it's kind of like shuffling cars around. And if this lease program works

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out, we could do cruisers moving forward. Do the lease the lease program with the cruisers and buy them all for a dollar. Um, a lot of it's idle hours. It's it's driving around town. It's doing traffic in certain places. It's, you know, on the side of the road, you know, monitoring traffic. It's it's it's

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crazy. We we've been with the department working with the guys, you know, shut off the car when you can. The problem is is we can't stop on the side of the road mounted traffic with the car off because the radio's connected to the car. The computer shuts down after so long once the battery voltage reach a certain rate and then just the maintenance on the

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cars is just it's starting to get starting to get a lot. We have a 20 cruiser 579. Uh that was our Friday car that's already had almost a complete motor put in it, almost a complete transmission put in it. Um that that car and then just

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moving forward with the Fords. It's just been transmission problems being rebuilt and just that's obviously mileage and just the driving is not made like it used to. >> It's the issue that we're going with all SUVs and not cars. >> Uh they don't the cars are Ford makes

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like it's almost like a Mustang kind of car. Um, it's a hybrid thing. I trying to stay away from hybrid. So, we don't we don't have a we don't really have a certified guy to work on it. Um, and it's just it's really expensive. Batteries get really expensive. Run into electrical issues. So, I'm trying to

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stay away from him. But, we do have two of them. >> So, what happens when all this work needs to be done? Do we have a warranty on the cars? You know, an extended warranty to cover parts of the cars or is this just straight out of pocket cost? Uh, luckily I got all the cars in for the transmission rebuilt before the

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warranty ran out, before the the powertrain warranty ran out. Um, the motor was covered by Ford. Ford did it. It was a $13,000 job. They covered that part. Um, a lot of the normal stuff, wear and tear, um, some of the maintenance is is on us. Okay.

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>> So, I guess my my my question around that is if if a lot of this stuff is dinging you, you know, after after the powertrain warranties are run out and things like that, >> what have you guys ever looked at or is there for this type of vehicle like

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there are for a normal vehicle where like, oh, you could pay, you know, 25 bucks a month or whatever it is, you get an extended warranty that could potentially since you guys utilize them so much more than a normal person utilizes their vehicle, that would cover some of these repair costs so that you guys aren't getting hit.

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>> We've never looked into like extending the warranty. >> So, I don't I couldn't give you a price on how much that would be. >> Yeah. I'm just I'm just curious. I literally I don't know obviously for like a person's car, right? But since this is a completely different animal of a vehicle situation, would they have something? >> There's a lot of things that wouldn't

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cover us too because of the nature of the of what the cars are doing miles. I feel like it would have to be a specific type of >> and there's a lot of like fine print in those warranties that cover certain things. So would the would the talent really be gained from something like that? >> Right. And that's that I'm just you know

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I'm asking and cuz you know the other question that I have is have you ever looked into a fully electric because there is no motor, there is no transmission, there is no oil leaks, there is no nothing like that. And yes, you'd have to have a charging station,

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>> but since you guys are doing a lot of idle hours, it's irrelevant on the battery. >> Yeah. So, it's it's more that the battery deteriorates over time on those. So, then we're going to end up in kind of like in almost in the same spot, >> right? But if you're only keeping vehicles for 2 or 3 years, >> we have we have 2016s, we have 2017s. We

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>> Yeah. Yeah. No, I know. So, we build them up and then we push them down to the detail cars, which does that. But also you wouldn't have to have fuel costs which we know are >> we we've never visited it but a lot of departments are staying away from it for some reason. I mean we've never gone down that road always maintained we've

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always maintained our fuel line. We've never gone into the red in our fuel line like we >> Oh no I know there's more money back in your pocket if you were if you weren't running having to have you know >> certain department started going towards batteries and now they're all pulling back. When I go to chief meetings I started they went they went that way to

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go to batteries. Now everyone's pulling back because of money of putting charging stations in everything else and now because of the colder winters are they going to maintain are they going to be more are they going to be practical >> compared to a gas loaded >> vehicle. >> Yeah. No, again I just from from a m

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from a maintenance perspective that's what I was trying to because there basically is >> I agree with it because we've talked about it and I'm like >> get go down that road and then all of a sudden it's too late to turn back because now we're stuck with vehicles that won't run in the middle of the winter because batter is a defect, >> right? And I'm not saying you replace the whole fleet or anything like that, but especially if you're looking at like

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a detective vehicle, right, or something like that. I mean, you could potentially get significantly more life out of it and the detective vehicle isn't, you know, even if you lose, let's call it because I think they typically say it's like 75% of the range in the winter, right? Even if you're down to 75%, it might not be an issue. >> That's why we wanted to move the hybrid

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vehicle that he's occupying right now to the detective vehicle that's already up for a battery also to get replaced. >> The hybrids are tough because basically you're managing two system. you're basically warranting two systems, which you know, it's not one or the other, it's both. And each one could have its own issues to your point with the

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electrical thing. Um, the other question I had is, so I know you had this, is there a typical lifespan, like, you know, we looked at some of these that are crazy, right? This has like 687,000, you know, hours, miles combo on the the

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574, right? and we're looking to replace the 140 and well we got a question mark because we don't know on the road. >> Um is there a lifespan typically for a vehicle like this when you look at that final number that you're like hey now it's it's real real

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bad. Right. >> So we we we change oil every month. Those are detail cars. So those are just that's a lot of idling time that they're just sitting out there. >> We're we're getting back money from the detail cars. Every time they auto out there, we get paid from third party details that goes into the cruiser

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revolving account. >> Okay. >> Um and that's used to like offset offset prices on on buying a new car and buying equipment for the station. So, we don't have to come to the town. We don't have to come to the finance committee. That's why we started that revolving account. We currently don't have enough in there to be like drain the whole account, put

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it towards these two cars. um over time over probably 3 four years depending on what the details are in town might be able to set it. >> Okay. What's in there today? >> Uh roughly around 3,000 we used last

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year to buy the trailer which was seven. So we used that instead of taking it out of the budget or going to town meeting with it. We needed the trailer for quads and bikes whatever else. So we use 7,000 out of that last year to purchase the chiller that we didn't have. We generated about 10,000 a year.

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>> Uh it honestly it depends on >> depends how busy it is. >> If there's a lot of we had pole details for like almost two years straight. So the the fund was going up, but things are slowing down. If they pear to slow down a little bit, less money's going in

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it. >> Don't you use certain cars for detail work only? >> Yeah, those are the green ones. >> Yeah. Um, >> that's why those are higher hours. Um, usually we we bump them down. We always take the newer car, add it into the line, and take the oldest car out.

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>> It's not that that car is not reliable. That last that oldest car. It's just I'd rather have something that I know is brand new. Not saying it's going to be reliable, brand being brand new, but it's it's new and it's, you know, those are the call those are cars going to your house, going to a medical call, stuff like that, you know. What about

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the optics of two new administrative cars when you need so many more police cars? >> Right now, there's the window of opportunity to replace the two admin cars. Um, mainly because the Taurus that

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I'm driving now is at 95,000 miles. Um, it's a 2019, so we've I mean, we we're pushing to to get time out of that car, but I mean, it's hitting 100,000 miles. We've had some mechanical issues with it. So, the the thought process now was to trade that in while it's still we can

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get still get some money for it as well as the Nissan and slide the deputy's car down to the to the uh detective and then hopefully we get get by a year without replacing a patrol car. But, we've replaced three patrol cars since I've been chief. Um, and right now we're in a

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not a great standing, but we're we're we're in a fair standing right now. Wouldn't it make sense to get one patrol car and one administrative car >> right now? It'd be a lot of >> them at the same time. >> Looking at a lot more money. >> What's the cost difference

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>> of patrol cost? >> Yeah. >> Probably about last year was 80 88,000. >> 62. >> Yeah. So it's 88,000 cuz that's a different buildout than >> I understand. >> Yeah. But every year we try to replace a patrol

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car and >> and we just got one in in March March March. So, what I was trying to take that's why I was saying using that window of opportunity to be able to move a couple cars around and trade some older cars in to just unload them and

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get the admin cars updated right now because we we've had those cars for a few years and try to maybe get a buy a year without requesting a patrol car depending on what's going on mechanically in the fleet. You know, >> I think this the thread you're pulling

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at, which a question I wanted to ask as well, is it seems like a patrol car could be used for you as an administrative vehicle if needed, but an administrative vehicle could not be utilized as a patrol car. Is that correct? >> True.

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>> Y is that what you're thinking? M. So, but when you take a when you're using a patrol car administratively to outfit it after the fact with a cage and everything else, you're kind of spending money again because now you're you're

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driving a patrol car as an administrative function. So, you're buying an overpriced vehicle, >> I think. >> Yeah. You know what I mean? >> But I think so. But I think I I do agree with Peter's line of thought again around, you know, you're looking you're asking for two two admin cars at, you

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know, call it 122, whereas I feel a little bit if you were coming to us asking for a single uh regular car at 80, >> you know, >> is there a patrol an older patrol car

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that could serve as an admin c >> and be replaced with a new patrol car. Is that kind of where you're going as well? >> That's that's the issue we're against. I mean, mileage wise, >> this there isn't a suitable car on the on the lot right now that could be a

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patrol car that could be used as a admin car. >> Strip it to strip it down. >> Why would you have to strip it down? >> Yeah. Would it be necessary? >> Who cares if there's a cage in there or not? No, >> I'm saying. But to drive around a mock unit, I mean,

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You know what I mean? Like >> how often do you patrol the streets daily? Both of you? >> We go out on We go out on calls. Yeah, we Yeah. When when even so lately it's been were on calls yesterday with guys we were trying to apprehend and I was on calls today on my way home.

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>> Y >> I mean it varies, >> right? I think the other thing too is um you know because I posed all of these questions when I met with the chief and the deputy. Um by the way, thank you again gentlemen for letting me come in

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and ask some hard questions. And one of the things we did discuss was the life of these two admin cars. You're looking at anywhere between five to eight nine years. They're not going to get as much

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road rage on them as the patrol cars. So, they're going to have a longer lifespan. Um, and at some point, you know, they can be moved around in the fleet. So, we're going to get more use versus buying another patrol car and maybe one

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admin car and then in a couple years having to replace another patrol car. So, I think it's it's more or less looking at where are we going to get the most for the buck right now. I I have to commend them with reviewing the leasing

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option because they're coming to us for well when you take in account of the you know getting the money for the two cars. They're really only looking for $20,000 right now to get two cars versus what

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they first proposed which was $122,000 which we don't have. Um, so I think they've been creative in the process. And again, in looking at this, these two cars, we're going to get a lot of life out of them versus a patrol car we're

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going to have to replace in a couple of years because of the amount of of use that the patrol cars take. >> Thank you. They they have been creative um with their >> with their funding. Um, and they also have requested uh this before uh at

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least one cruiser and we we had to put it off to to to funding. So, it's also timing where if we had we funded that >> um when they when the police department originally asked that admin cruiser, we would be in a spot. We're only looking at one now, but they they worked with

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us, they you know, we put that off. So now we're at a point where um you know we we asked them to you know come back be creative. They they've met with everyone and uh >> and maybe leasing is going to be the way to go in the future. I don't I don't

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know. >> Yeah. I mean napkin mathwise if you look at hard cost at 122 three payments for both cruisers at 43 put it at about 131 over three years. Right? So it's about a $10,000 increase in cost. If you go to the five-year

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payments, it's about another $10,000. It's about 142. So, you're basically you're adding 20 grand over five years for two cruisers as opposed to paying the upfront 122. Um, I mean, it's nice. My question, I guess,

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might be for you. Would we then start how would how would that work from a budgeting perspective? we would just add basically would we add another line inside the police budget as like lease vehicles and that way we can track it and and >> um so it would be because it's an

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article it would be a separate article within this budget >> within the operating but outside of the locations >> yeah because I think um which as you guys probably know the other issue we're running into is the fire department just had a cruiser crushed as well and you

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know he didn't he didn't even ask us for another one I guess he's running a 2004 admin vehicle right now. It's from 2004. >> What was that? >> It caught fire. >> Caught fire. Okay. See, so he he has a 2004.

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>> It's not right. So, um, it's it's tough for us when we look at, and I'm just speaking personally, when we look at a laundry list of cruisers, and I'm not saying that your concerns aren't valid, but when I look at, you know, the fire department who is went from three

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vehicles to to one. Um, and we need to figure something out for them as well. And now I'm wondering if you sing for for you because >> Yeah. >> Yeah. bit tumbled up a little bit, but I'm waiting for insurance to get back to me on the one that caught.

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>> We've purchased um pursuit rated vehicles in the past, which the car I'm driving now is a pursuit rated vehicle at the 95,000 mile mark. That was Chief Max previous uh car when he retired. Um but you're paying

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all that extra money for a pursuit rated vehicle. spend less money on an admin vehicle, but you can move it around later on to a detective or put it in the put it in the uh detail line and save some money instead of just throwing, you know, money out there to say, "Hey,

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we're going to get pursuit rated vehicles." I understand Mr. Karen's point on it. But when you're looking at the big picture and you're like, "All right, the window of opportunities now to try to move cars around and not know some older cars like the Nissan and the Taurus, you start looking at admin costs because

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they're a lot less money than buying a pursuit rate vehicle. That's the reason why I went this way doesn't make much Chevy car." >> So, I've had nothing but problems with Chevys, so trying to stay away from them. That's why our our next uh our other car was a Ford Explorer,

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>> right? So, are we pigeonhold that we can only do Fords and Chevys? >> Well, >> so no, there's Ford, Chevy, and Dodge, >> Ford, Ford, Chevy, and Dodge that do pursue rated vehicles. So, Dodge, Secon,

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the Panova had a bunch of Dodges. They had nothing but front end problems. They're not good for quick jaunts. They need to cool down in between. Um, so like driving from the station to a call and then jumping in the car again in a matter of like five minutes and driving again,

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>> right? What I'm saying is, um, I've owned all kinds of cars. Um, my favorite cars are Hondas and Toyotas. They last forever and I know you you can beat the snot out of them and they keep going and keep going, especially the engines. And

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are we pigeonhold? There's no other car. I'm just throwing those out. I asked this very question when we were there. >> Yeah, this these are I guess I I don't know. I I can't answer that. I have to look at the municipal bid and make sure they're on the bid list and you know they're under contract. Like I I don't

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know if Honda is I don't know if Toyota is they're limited are doing the specifically rated vehicles. Yeah. So, I'm I'm looking at these repair costs and you're looking at

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$7,000 2,300. These are the ones on the green. Um, you're over $11,000. Actually, close to $13,000. And, you know, the the best lease option with the fiveyear is like 28. I mean,

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it's half of what you'd be paying for that lease. And as far as the electric ones go, they've already had to do a charging system and a transmission rebuild. And those are the newer cars. They're both 21s. >> Yeah, the hybrids. The hybrids are an

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issue. >> So, until they're perfected, I don't think we really should be going down that road with the hybrids. >> And these terms are unbelievable. I mean, if I'm looking at these these uh these lease terms and what they're offering you,

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>> it's basically you're financing the vehicle is essentially what you're doing. It's just down payment. Um >> I mean, you buy it for a buck at the end. >> I was like, I couldn't get this. Yeah, here it is.

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>> So, the So, the cost of maintenance on all the vehicles, tax exempt interest, no down payment. I mean, >> can I get accepted? >> Exactly. So, at 8%, yes, you can. >> You're after five.

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>> No, no, no. >> I think the problem is out of all this >> is that it's what can we afford, >> right? >> Because we don't have funds currently >> to be able to do that. So, that's what makes

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>> this work >> that work, right? I >> can I can I I I I like where you're going, but I wanted to ask we're talking about this equipment equipment that can't be put in or isn't available for Toyotas and Hondas and so forth uh to

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turn them into a, you know, reasonable police car. But in terms of an administrative car, is it possible to get the radio and whatever minimal equipment is needed for an admin? >> Still has to be approved. be on a be on a bid bid list. It has to be there's a municipal bid list of what

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>> it has to be okay and it's just not >> no I was I had this discussion earlier today and I have a Toyota pickup truck. I said I wish Toyota made a cruiser cuz I guarantee we wouldn't have half the issues we have. >> What would it take to put it on?

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>> Never that's bigger than us. Yeah. >> I think the other question is what's the difference in power between a Toyota and a Ford? >> Well, that's something that could be easily fixed because if you take a look at a Honda or a Toyota, you're talking

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about a Lexus or an Acura. They all make um engines that are extremely competitive. The only issue it sounds like to me it's what um somebody has decided like you said beyond our pay

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grade on what is going to be you know board certified or whatever and I think that's ridiculous but we have to go with what we have >> and I think police options are great options too because as you was talking about like the repairs and everything's

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covered in under the leases I think that's why a lot of other towns >> that I've spoken to I spoke to Chief Boon the um Abington chief um a few weeks back uh lease options. A lot of towns are starting to look at that avenue of lease options because they're getting more cars and instead of buying

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one or two, they're getting more cars and a lump sum and then at the end of the term having the option either with the res residual of turning the cars in for what they're worth or buying them at the end of the term, >> right? Because then we, you know, theoretically we had a lease fleet, right? you're just maintaining that lease fleet budget item on, you know, on

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an annualized basis and then you're swapping cars as necessary, which in your line of work. >> The thing that concerns me about that is is the the premium you're paying for the lease. With one or two, it seems like it makes sense because you're stretching,

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but if you've got eight or 10 of these, >> looks like it's about five grand a car. >> About five five grand a car, right? >> [ __ ] five cars, >> right? Now you're you're not you're not selling >> eggs for sure, but we don't have if you don't have the upfront cost, which we don't have 122 grand.

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>> So >> in the back end, if you buy it for a dollar and all your payments stop, >> there's no prepayment penalties or anything, you can buy it off, we come come and put money somewhere. >> And we've done that with other leases that we have and we have the money.

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We're able to prepay. So that's that's nice. >> Yeah, we did that with last year's articles. Yeah. So that was that was going to be my next question for real things and Serena. We consciously paid off every lease that we had this past year with free cash because we knew what

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was coming. So now how comfortable are you two with consideration? I mean what what's being presented is right a three-year lease and a fiveyear lease. First of all, we get can we go can we go to five or we

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just limit it to three? Yeah. Number one. Number two for two cars. So these are two for two cars. Do you I mean do you split it say and if you go for the if you go for the again the five year

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one car let's let's say it's 24 $24,000 a year. >> Can we handle 24,000? I hope we can. You see, >> you know, I hope we can I think uh and it depends, right? So, how do we

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luck in free cash? I think um you remember the number >> 56,000 >> 56 Yeah, I was kind of doing quick calculations. 56,000 things and things come up. So, I I would I would ask that

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first resolve the issue. Is it one car or two cars? Yeah. And then once you decide that uh you know then we could then we could have a discussion on the fun >> if if you only get one what is the order

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of operations for that which one goes to or goes >> just to clarify did you say we possibly could not do a fiveyear lease? >> I do can we do a fiveyear lease? There's there's an option >> legally we can >> we can >> Yeah.

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>> Okay. I I know in in general with like municipalities. >> Okay. So if if we had a history of paying these off early and we went with the five then we're not obligated beyond the fiveyear on that lower that lower

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cost per year. Then it goes into another budget. >> We I I would just hesitate to say we have a history of doing that early. We did it because we had reserve funds to draw on and we were trying to get stuff off the repay uh recurring payments off the books, right? So I would just have

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to say like we have a history of doing that. >> If I again to uh to illustrate that point, if we didn't pay them off, we will be I forget the numbers, but we trying to find that money for this budget which we

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>> wouldn't have. I'm sorry. So, so the order operations would turn the tourist would go, road would stay. >> You know, we we came up with $295,000 just like that to come up with a a dump

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truck. Um, this here is h half of that. And I think the police department has demonstrated that they're thinking strategically and smart with their maintenance and and how they're going to move their assets around. Uh, personally, I think Don's a town that supports the police department, wants to

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give our departments the resources they need. I think everyone is definitely thinking in the best interest of the taxpayers and being resourceful. Um, but I think I think if it was uh

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an exorbitant expense, it would be it wouldn't be such a thoughtful discussion that we're having. It would be very easy for us to say, "No, this is not for us." I think we're all really thinking this through hard because um we're trying to give the department the resources

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they're asking for and and I think I personally think they've demonstrated it. I I like the five year lease idea personally uh because if it gives us the flexibility if we don't have the funds that or it's lean

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leaner years that we can just pay that minimum lease payment and hopefully being an optimist and hopefully the state sees the financial pressures that all of these towns including Don is facing um that we can pay that lease off early. So me for one, I support this. Um

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the police department has done without um recently with their request for cruisers. So I just kind of look at this as catchup and uh kind of smart planning with their assets. >> Can I say one thing? >> Just to the dump truck that's being replaced is 1990, right? >> 96. I

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>> 96. >> Yeah, I would push I would I would push back on that a little bit of like we found the money for a dump truck. Yeah, cuz >> dead it explodes. >> Not quite on fire. Not quite on fire, but essentially what >> Hey Ryan, the two cars that we're going

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to trade in. >> Yes. >> Ballpark off the top of your head and and lowball it. How much money do you think you're going to save in repairs for those two cars if you had to be stuck with them for a while? >> Um, >> just in oil changes alone and all that.

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Give me the numbers. thousand maybe each guy. I'm not saying nothing went wrong, but I'm aware. Yeah. >> So, there are some small amount of funds that maybe the chief can help us with next year in his budget to help put

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towards one of the payments of the lease if if it works out that way, you know. >> So, I was going to say that we we do have that revolving cruiser account. I mean, closer to that 5year mark, if stuff starts to pick up and that account starts to grow, we can maybe offset that payment a little using that account. Just depends on how the details pan out,

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but it seems, you know, that that's on the work. Yeah, >> these aren't cruisers, so we'd have to see the art the wording of that revolving. >> It says police equipment, accessories. >> I think it was adjusted for that. >> Pretty sure it's

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your car. >> Is the 122,000 include equipping the vehicle with whatever it is that you need to. >> That's everything. Yeah. Ford will Ford will finance the whole build out and everything. >> I saw that in the package. >> There's no extra. >> This is it.

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>> But like I said, these the 2026 prices. >> Yeah. Yeah. You're going to get a 7 and 12% bump probably. >> So that's that's just what they had right now. Ford hasn't released the 2027 yet, so I'm not sure. But if that goes that much more, maybe I can offset with the trades and have negotiate with them

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on getting the trades down. I know we're um >> yeah, I know we are discussing the the police article specifically, but I I do just want to reiterate again, I'm I'm uh my line of thinking is I like the

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lease option a lot and I think that's a smart way as long as we don't, to Glenn's point, get over ambitious with piling on a ton of leases. Um, I I question and I'm and I'm worried because we have to deal with the fire uh

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fire department situation as well of he him needing an administrative vehicle as well. And I personally would be, you know, I appreciate this a lot cuz I really came in with a pretty set no um for both. And I'd be okay with doing one

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for the police and getting a lease payment for the fire department for the other admin part. That way at least both departments are getting something and we're not blowing out >> you know my same similar thinking is you

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know I would almost prefer to go with one now and fall look at see where everything is and >> right it's not not a permanent no it's just >> you guys will know at that point more he'll know more what where he stands and

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and then address him when we got the if we should afford and do we go into the higher price thing at that point. >> I think we're just we're going to go into that. >> Yeah, they're going to go into it anyways. >> When they release it, I don't know when they release it. Maybe June. June. >> I think it would start releasing >> June.

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>> So we look at if we did one shop it in half, it'd be if you want to fight 142, >> which Yeah. So I mean that's something where even if worst case scenario, if we get the funding for our reserve fund, we could you know what I mean? like it's

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not as >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I I think that would be my opinion would would do one for them now and then with the preparation of either fall for fire and a second one for them. Um but

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at least we can get them started on on one now to get the tourists out >> and then we can incrementally go that way. I'm just I'm just worried about overspending. >> Yeah. Overcommitting. >> Overcommitting. Even though it is it's we're talking about $14,000, but I mean

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here we are $28 million budget with $57,000 of free cash, $16,000 of reserve. And I'm assuming at this point the budgets are pretty tight. So we're not really looking at a lot of options for transfers next

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month. And obviously not much left in in reserves at all. >> So we're at 53 for free, right? 56. So put us at 42. >> 42 >> is call it 40 for the napkin that it's tight, but

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>> I don't recall it in my years ever being at $40,000 at the end of the year. >> Not in the last three years. >> That would be my that would be my thoughts. I mean any other one's better than none?

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Well, no. And I don't necessarily disagree with you, but as far as the fire chief, >> he's going to need one, too. I'm saying one for >> No, no, no. I understand that. But are we going to do that like now, or is he going to wait till the fall? >> He's going to have to wait till the fall. >> No article.

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>> There's no article. >> Doesn't he need two though? The fire chief, he's down to one. He had three, right? >> Yeah. Well, he had three because we gave him one was replacing a second one that was bumping down and the 04 was originally going to be retired, but then

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the accident with the tree happened with the one that the middle one that bumped down. So, we had to maintain the 04. So, he needs two, >> right? So, he needs two. He has one. He needs two, not three. Correct. >> Correct. >> It's been a crazy year.

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>> The summary of events. Yeah. So why wouldn't we do his two now and since we have to wait for the fall for him anyways and do his in the fall >> and do two >> then you're buying three instead of two. My suggestion was to buy two one for

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them now one for them in the fall and if we have the funds to potentially add a third but we're not committing to the third cuz now you're asking for three instead of he needs one regardless. >> I thought it was four too. I'm confused. >> He just needs one. >> He just needs one. So it' be two two

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requests now >> just one. So think about that that right now there's three three of the a need for three vehicles two one. >> Okay. >> So then that would be one of them out of the way, >> right? >> Possibly and one and one for the fall

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probably. >> Okay. >> I I don't disagree with any of the comments either and I 100% agree on having too many lease leases. Uh but I I don't think that three lease payments is overly ambitious. I think that's

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reasonable. And um I look at my own personal finances and my own my own vehicle that I just bought in 2024 and it's gone up $5,000, the the new model. So if you think about interest and um you know the cost of

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it's going to keep going up the longer we wait anyways, whether we're paying it at interest or we're putting it off um I I would rather support both departments. And I think too when you think of the maintenance and kind of shuffling those vehicles around and putting

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>> Yeah, it was like 13. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I I I understand the margins are getting tight and I'm very well aware of that. Um >> I think we're going to regret if we don't >> public safety. I I just don't see

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>> if we're going to be spending money on these types of things. I would like to I would like to see them going towards the safety of our residents, supporting these departments. Um I I don't know. I don't think it's overly ambitious personally.

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>> I agree with just one. >> I don't think we should do the two >> and I think we revisit the second one for police in the fall. >> In the falls. >> Yeah. >> What kind of cars are we talking about? Ford. Ford. What? >> Explorers. >> Explorers. Yep. >> Line.

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Hi. >> Do you guys need to talk first or you want us to? >> You guys can make your motions. We'll uh we'll follow suit. >> So, this article there two articles, >> right? Um >> but we're not we're not

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>> So if we I would say we um if if if I may uh I had a a brief discussion with the board of selectment if for the articles um and we put it further on down the line for the articles if you're only going to fund one of these cars my

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uh my advice and suggestion would be as as also you're only funding one of the trust is uh open uh we haven't opened the warrant amended to remove those two so we don't have confusion on how many floors

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it uh so we already know you're only going to have pay for one truck one highway truck it's the case where you only do one um um one police movement then we just make

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sure we agree that in the Next in the next line of the agenda, we just take those two articles out because we uh it's easier at this stage because we got to finalize the warrant tonight. It's easier to come in by taking out war articles. We don't really want to add

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articles at this stage. >> Right. I So my my second followup question to that is since we're no longer since the articles are for purchase, not lease, does that mean they have it has to be rewritten? >> Yes. >> Okay. And then would we need to vote on it

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again? >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> So, do we make a motion for the two vehicles on the lease first? >> How do you want us to do that? >> Uh, well, the motion would be to um just

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take the cars one >> one at a time. >> One at a time. >> So, can we start? I guess it really doesn't matter because >> I I would say I I would say just to almost like easy just 14

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to for the lease and then a recommendation on 15 if I'm remembering just take it out. >> I think that might be the cleanest way to do it. No, >> we're getting a no from the end of the

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table. >> Well, then >> um so article 14 is for the 66,000 and article 15 has the 3500 trade in reduced in there already.

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>> And so the BOS can make their recommendation if they want to remove article 14. And then I would say that the FINCOM just needs to vote on article 15 and then decide if it's the threeear or the 5year and then if we could just round up because that's

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>> not going to be enough money >> working five would you say 14 year >> yeah are we are we five years you think >> yeah I'm thinking five year for the two >> oh so we're going to have to get an

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agreement on that because I think half the table says one for now and that's why we're talking about removing one of the police vehicles. Uh we're moving article 14 and then revisiting it in the fall and then approving article 15 for the second one with a 5-year lease. So

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that would be 14,500 additional cost instead of 62 >> to remove article 15. That's what we're going to do >> because they can't vote on something that's not going to be there. >> Well, yeah. That's why we budgeted a little because if you do the math like

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14 >> are they reopen? >> I don't believe so. I can find out tomorrow for sure. >> That would be my only question is are they giving us a deal on two and so if we go we would just want one they're going to go well then it's going to be a

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totally different price. That would be my only question. >> Municipal. >> No. You don't get the price. They think the price is set the price and that's what you get. >> Yeah. >> Cuz they're already bought at bulk, >> right? They're not just going to Dy. >> I'm sorry.

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>> Cuz they're already bought at bulk. So they're not they're not just going to Don, right? So whether you buy one or 10, the price per vehicle is the price per vehicle. >> All right. So BLS has to vote to resend one of the articles or how

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>> we can do that after >> they should they because they're changing the article maybe they should open it. >> I definitely >> we might not maybe if the finance committee if that motion if the finance committee makes their motion we that we could take that in consideration. I think the finance committee should make

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their motions first. >> Okay. Do you want us to do our time? I think the warrant needs >> I think the warrant needs to be opened first. >> Yeah. So, yeah, >> because we're changing Yes. >> the wording of the article >> in the dollar. >> Yeah. We can only vote on the wording of

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the article. >> Yes. >> Okay. I make a motion to open the law article. >> All right. We have a motion. Is there a second? >> I will. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. Motion carries. >> So, now we can make a recommendation.

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>> So, the warrant's open now. is should they have should the board so I can vote to have article 14 reflect as a lease >> and then they go

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>> either one. >> Yeah. >> Either 14 or 15. >> Well, yeah. So, I think uh the uh then Miss Leon should go to amend uh amend article 14 to uh these

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No, go ahead. >> Sorry. No, go ahead. You're saying to >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And then and then working as the lease >> and then do the

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price and then and then I think the the finance committee could recommend and then motion to see if the town will appropriate and transfer from available funds to sum up

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Detroit police prices to to >> any motions on the floor. >> Do you want a dollar amount or we did mapping that you think it's 145? 20 242 >> if you want to do >> a little.

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>> Yes. >> Thank you. >> We just do one. >> Yeah. One of the two. >> Yeah. So, if you if you're looking at the 5-year lease, it's 145 would give us a little bit of cushion for potential price increase for the 27th.

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>> Three year would be 242. I'm sorry. 22 22 22. >> Is it the same figure for 5 years? Is that correct? >> It'd be less. It' be 14,500. 14,500 for

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the 5year. It'd be 22,200 if you wanted to suggest the 3 years. >> 145 for 5 years standard. >> Correct. Yes. Yeah. >> But this is the cost of the 26. Oh, you're going to be buying a 27. Right.

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>> So, we budgeted about an extra $300. Well, we budgeted an extra $300. If you did that, if you did the actual math, it was 14,200. So, we added an extra 300 for the for the warrant. We're suggesting we're suggesting for the warrant article. That way, if there's a slight price increase, it probably will

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eat it up. Um, and if we need to find the extra $50, find $50. Any any um any of my colleagues like to make a motion on this? >> I'm not going to make

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>> uh I will I will make the motion for one vehicle. >> Okay. Could you uh >> Well, you got to do one article at a time. So, just do article 14, right? >> Okay. So, article 14. I'm entertaining the motion. So, you >> to amend article 14.

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>> Mhm. to uh to read 14 to read five years for one year lease for one. >> Okay. In the amount of 14,500,000. >> Okay. So, we have a motion on the floor. Is there a second? I will step down and second. Any discussion? All in favor?

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>> I. All right. Motion carries uh for article 14. Um, while we're still on this agenda topic of having the warrant open, we might as well make a motion on article 15 as well. Is there any any motions for

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article 15? >> Okay. So, is the motion the same as just for clarification, the same as um Mr. Cavage's motion, >> right? >> Okay. So, we have a motion on the >> Got to be a reduction in the price because of the trade. >> Uh,

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>> are we buying one vehicle or two vehicles? So now we're on article 15. So we did article 14. >> That's the first vehicle, >> right? That's vehicle one. So article 15 is vehicle two. >> So you guys want to recommend to buy a second vehicle? >> So um we're in the middle of a motion. So we we just made a motion. So we can't

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say that point of order. We need a second and and then discussion. You could ask that. So we have a motion on the floor. Is there a second? >> I I don't want to second until I fully understand it. I'm afraid I'm a little confused. is is the intention to get two vehicles.

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>> It's not my intention is to get two. >> That's why I didn't vote for the first one. I'll make a motion, but I I take the second one because it's a reduction in the price, which is why I made a motion to approve the second one. >> Could you just state a motion? >> My motion is to approve the article 15

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for a lease vehicle for 5 years in whatever the total is that >> 14,5,500. >> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> I I wish I had two. Article 14's for one is for one.

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>> And are we allowed to to speak? >> Well, you can't under discussion. There's a motion on the floor right now. So, there's a motion. Is there a second? >> I will second. >> Okay. So, there's a motion, a second. Is there any discussion? So, I understand what Peter uh what Peter's doing because

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one of them had a lower price because you were valuing the trade in at $3,500. If we you getting that $3,500. If we So, so let's say we we took the the article 15 out and just had the

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article 14. We could take that $3,500 and that you're getting for that trade in and apply it towards a lease payment. You assume that your this price includes the two trades? >> No, it doesn't. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So, basically, if we did one,

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they'd get an extra $3,500 which either they could put into cruiser revolving fund or or something like that. >> It would go towards the difference between 26 and 27, >> right? Difference, right? Difference 26 27. >> So, it gives us even Yeah, even a little bit more. But, but I understand what

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Peter's doing, but I don't know if it's necessary. Like I think if one of them being removed and the other just going with one, they're going to get the $3,500 regardless whether you're doing 15 or 14. It's not 66 and 625. Now it's 145.

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>> Right, >> Peter? I wish I had understood better where you were headed with that. >> Okay, we have a motion and a second. So, uh, all in favor? >> I >> I >> Okay, motion carries. So, now we have two articles on the floor that

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>> read the same. that read the same. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> is there any other motions on the floor? >> Can I make a motion to remove one of the two articles? >> Removing the more expensive one. I believe that's number uh >> Oh, they're both equal now. Remember

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>> they're both equal? >> Yeah. >> Then I I make a motion to remove article 14. >> Okay, we have a motion on the floor. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Okay, we have a motion and a second. uh under discussion. I'm just going to still uh say that I I almost feel like

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the finance committee was gonna um was gonna I didn't hear their vote, but I kind of heard their discussion. It sounded like their board might be in favor of the two police cruisers. Uh I think that they are I think generally the board of selectman

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follows suit of the finance committee. Not always, but in general, I was hoping that we would get to get the two. Um, but so I'm going to vote no on that motion, but anyways, we have a motion to second. Any other discussion? Okay. All in favor? >> I

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>> I and I'm a no. So motion carries. Any other motions on the >> um on the war articles? Okay. And uh I guess the floor is yours. The only article that we need to discuss is

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article 15. >> So I'll make the motion to recommend article 15 as amended um and to raise and appropriate transfer from available funds sum of 14,500 for 5year lease payment for the police chief admin

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vehicle. >> What's the recommended funding? >> Free cash. >> Second. >> All in favor? I I >> I >> I >> I opposed. I have it.

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>> No. >> What about 14? >> It's gone. >> 14 doesn't exist. >> Doesn't exist. >> 14. >> Does the board of selective have a recommendation on article 15? >> I recommend.

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>> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> I'll second. Okay. Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. >> Is there anything else that you needed from us? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Thank you guys very much. >> Thank you.

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>> Thank you. >> Thanks, guys. >> Not sure what order Ralph wants to address. >> She's throwing it back to you. >> Lively discussions. >> All right. So, we'll do the budget. We

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have 1 2 3 four departments that changed from the last meeting. >> Okay. >> Okay. So the first department which will need BOS and the fincom to make new recommendations is department um 220 the fire department. There was a new contract

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signed and we did not increase the uniform contractual increase which is split between the two departments. So, it's an additional $275 and the handout has the different dollar amounts because the BOS Rex and the

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FINCOM Rex did not match. So, if the board of selectman want to have their discussion and make their recommendation first, then we can move on to the finance committee. >> Is this the after the new number? >> Yes, that is including the new tech 275 is the very bottom number.

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>> They would need the motion. Did we get did this information come out later from our meeting? Is that why we weren't on the same page with the finance committee? >> We we had ended up the difference between us and you guys, we put an extra $5,000 in repairs and maintenance from

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some of the money that got pulled back from health insurance >> because we were worried about the second vehicle that caught on fire. So, we were correctly we were correctly >> but I I think assuming the slight

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changes a result of the contractual that >> the 275 >> the 27 the 275. Yeah. So it came out after the meeting. >> Okay. >> Any discussions from the board? >> No. >> Any motions? >> I'll make the motion to approve.

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>> So for clarification, your motions to match the finance committee's recommendation. Okay. So we have a motion. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I I motion carries. >> Make a motion to amend the finance

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committee recommendations 2860 53139. >> Second make the motion. >> Oh, sorry. You want to go ahead? >> Go ahead. >> Okay. Uh, I'll make a motion to update finite committee recommendation for

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department 220 to the amount of $860,531.39. >> Second. All in favor? >> I got. >> Thank you. The next one is the ambulance fund, the two number 231, and it's the same additional 275. And on this one,

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the do and the fincom did have the same recommendation previously. You guys want to go first? >> Yeah, sure. Any motions on the floor? >> I'll make a motion to uh approve to go with the fin recommendation. >> All right, we have a motion. Is there a

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second? Any discussion? All in favor? >> I motion carries. >> Thank you. The next one is the building department 240. >> No, you're fine. It's all right. Okay. Um, I'll make a motion uh to update the recommendation for department 233 uh

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total amount of 887,949421. Sorry. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I I opposed. Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Now we're on to building 241. >> Make the motion to go with finance

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committee's recommendation. >> Okay. We have a motion. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I motion carries. >> I have this one. >> I'll make a motion to uh update FinCon's

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recommendation for department 241 uh to $130,452.73. >> Second. All in favor? >> I I post it. Um and then the next one is not in the packet but as we heard the DNO regional assessment has decreased

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and then also this morning we were informed that the Aggie um also decreased. So I have a new department total for education. >> How much degree? >> Um I think 20,000 was it 240 before

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>> about yeah about that. Um, it >> was 360. No, it's 327. >> So, does the selectman want the new education number? >> He would love that.

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>> 15 million 974,512. >> Any motions on the floor? Motion to accept those new numbers. >> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? I'm not. >> Okay. I will step down and second. Any further discussion? All in favor?

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>> I I and one no. Motion carries. >> I'll make a motion to update our recommendation for department 3. Uh total 15,940 974,512. >> Second. All in favor? I >> I >> I >> no

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>> oppos. >> The next article previously was number 21. So might be number 21. >> Well, it's still 21 packet. Okay. >> To obtain whatever parcels and easements as necessary. So, it's probably the

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older version is 20,000, but now it's reduced to 7,000. >> 20. >> I'm sorry. What was the number again? >> Article 20. >> It's now $7,000. >> I'll make that motion to approve the new $7,000 payment.

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>> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? Second. >> All right, motion second. Any discussion? All in favor? I >> I. Motion carries. I'll make a motion to recommend article 20 form $7,000 for Eastman's purchases

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from free cash. >> Second. All in favor? >> I posted it. >> That's everything I have for the finance committee. Yeah. Um, I guess the other thing does the

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does the board want to make any recommendations on the on the bylaws? I thought we were good. >> Uh, no. >> We only left them as is. 21 22

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20 um 23 24 21 23 22 >> 24 and 25 Yeah. Okay. >> Which one's Well, that's not

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>> 21 22 24. >> Ready? Okay. I make a motion to uh to um recommend article 21. >> All right. We have a motion. Is there a second? >> I will. All right. Any discussion? All in favor? I

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>> I motion carries. 20 seconds. >> Take your time. >> It's on page 26, uh, article 22. I'll make the motion that the, uh, select B recommend.

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>> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> I will second. >> Any discussion? just uh could I just get a real quick uh description of what the change generally means >> from from what it was?

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>> What change you mean? >> Yeah. >> Is it article that the mortorium? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's the uh uh the moratorium. No, this one did >> uh so um the planning board decides to

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put a moratorum on both solar fields and and energy energy storage facilities. The state is coming out with new regulations regarding uh energy storage facilities. So they want to get an understanding of it so that they're requesting a moratorium on it. The state

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has better better regulation. >> So the moratorium itself is the change. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. >> This is 21 22. >> All right. Any other discussion? All in favor? >> I >> I motion carries. Article 24

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recommendation that board recommend that motion that the board can recommend. >> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I motion carries. >> 25. I'll make a motion that is voice up

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and recommend. >> All right, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> Second. Any discussion? All in favor? I motion carries. Article 26 is uh the home petition for

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the uh I know that uh was interested in it and you had the I don't know if you had the language for it >> complete. Yes. um

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when it was presented on April. Okay. Um I'll make a motion that the board and recommend article 26. >> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> Second. Thank you. Any discussion? All in favor? Do you have discussion?

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>> I did. I just again I'm I'm sorry. I would love just a very short explanation. >> Uh sure. the um it's they call uh land trees. So what the town is uh looking to do is to see if they could uh when if there's a a

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certain size development that they would be able to create fees for the uh to the developer to to handle um some whatever additional services may be the result of of the development.

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>> Okay. Um and I'm an I motion carries. What else for electrical and water and >> uh mostly uh uh like police needs to be an expansion of police service but it

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needs to be an expansion of of a of a classroom. Uh it's has to be specific to the specific to the to the development >> without having that cross to the developer.

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>> Yes. Any motions on article 27? >> Uh, I think we did already. You just >> We did 26. >> 28. >> Uh

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oh, no. That's uh the town acceptance of what was the annual increase of the amount of the exemption granted? >> Uh that's the veterans one. Yeah. No, no. Um you guys didn't make a uh recommendation on that.

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>> I don't know. I don't know if the >> waiting for anything. >> Okay. I'll make a motion to accept article 27. The board recommend. >> Okay. Is there >> So, I couldn't hear. I'll make a motion that the board of second recommend article 27.

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>> We have a motion. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I >> I should be end of our recommendations. Anything else from the finance committee? >> The only thing just a couple of notes for when I walked in you were the

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question to the school. Last year the increase was 3.7%. And just as an overall statement uh right now we're looking at very rough because we're just going off some rough numbers for the total for this year. The

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overall town budget is up 2% even 2%. >> Thanks. Other than that I don't have anything. Does anybody else have anything >> um >> have a question? >> Yeah, go ahead. >> Um for the articles 16 and 17, the two highway trucks, one of them is

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recommended and I wasn't sure if the BOS was going to consider removing number 17 that is not recommended. >> Good point. Thank you. That's a good idea for clarity. I I believe >> that Thank you. >> I'll make a motion that we remove

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article. Who is it? 17. >> 17. >> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> All right, motion and second. Any discussion? All in favor? >> I >> I motion carries. Thank you. >> And thank you to the finance committee

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for being with us again. We appreciate it. >> We'll uh we'll adjourn our meeting if you if you guys are all set with us. I don't know if they have to close the line. >> I will uh entertain that motion. >> I will make a recommendation to close the current warrant.

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>> Motion. Is there a second? I will. Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. Motion carries. >> Take a motion to adjurnn. >> Take a motion to adjurnn final meeting. >> Second. All in favor? >> I have it. We done.

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>> Awesome. Thank you. I'll entertain a motion for a two-minute recess if that's okay. I'll >> make a motion. Is there a second? >> All right. Any further discussion? All in favor? Quiet. All right. So, next on our agenda is we have

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uh Lero Hill Court uh for the fire station building presentation for that. Good evening. >> Hi. >> Thanks for waiting guys. >> I know it was tedious. Sorry. >> We got to get through that stuff. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely.

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>> Okay. So, good evening. Thank you. Uh Lero Hill Corp has uh we've done a lot of studies um design and management of public safety facilities in cities and towns throughout Massachusetts. Our

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feasibility study, we follow our three directives on them. We do deliberate analysis, conservative assumptions, and community fit. My name is John Zikwitz. I'm vice president of architecture at Lur Hill.

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With me tonight, Mark Anderson, he's project manager and design lead. Ethan Zanelli is our project architect, and Nick Betts is our civil and site engineer. We're all available for questions. We've got a 20-minute presentation that'll take you through

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the analysis and how we put together the feasibility study. If there's questions during the presentation, feel free to ask. If you want to wait till the end, totally up to you. Let Mark take it from here. >> Make sure All right. Hello. Thank you all again

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for having us tonight. So, let me get to the next slide here. And as John mentioned, please feel free to jump in at any time. Soon as I figure out just click on it. >> Just roll down.

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>> Ah, yeah. Perfect. Thank you. So at the the heart of the study was really to take a deep look at the chief and his team's operations uh how they're operating today against kind of a 75

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year window right and uh begin to anal analyze the fire service delivery for Dyton that way ultimately what the study concluded and we're going to go through that process uh how we what we looked at how we looked at it and and our findings but ultimately

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a new purpose-built facility like a 247 facility u seems to be the most fiscally responsible approach or path forward for Dyton at the end of the day and we'll we'll get into why that is as we move forward. So why are we here tonight?

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We're not looking for any sort of uh decision or whatnot. We're I'm not sure if you've had time to look at the actual study itself. If you haven't, highly recommend you do. there's a lot of uh more detailed information in the appendices, right? So, we're going to

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give you a highle snapshot of of the takeaway right now. So, yeah, we're really just wanting to show you the project and kind of what the chief and his team have been working with and really what would be appropriate, you know, from a modernday fire service

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delivery kind of well into the future. So a little bit about our process and the method of analysis. It's really boils down to these four steps right here. So we mobilized looked at the existing uh station one and station two from an infrastructure site and and

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building uh condition perspective. You know Nick is here and we'll be able to answer any questions around some of the existing sites which uh have some interesting nuances around them. And we spent a good deal of time really drilling into,

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you know, accurately the the baseline needs of the chief and his team from a programming perspective. Yeah. That allowed us to really find out, okay, where do we need to be? And it was really a conservative exercise. I will say we came in with a more robust

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program, but uh the chief rightly so brought us down to, you know, what was really the right size for Dyon that would still give you the flexibility and uh meet the needs of your community into the future. We also worked with Criterion Associates who did some gsi

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response modeling. This was all based upon call data that the chief gave us. So real time look at where you know some of the most of the calls were coming from and where the best location for uh this this 247 operation would be located

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within Titan. So we'll show you uh four snapshots of kind of a close area or and I'll explain how we analyze that. But again in the appendicy of the report uh we we looked at a lot of sites around

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town. So, it's kind of interesting to see how we got there. And then lastly, you know, we we actually did some really good interesting design work at station two uh as well as this new undeveloped site to be determined.

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So, that was our approach. So, I'm showing you this slide right here. This is a highle snapshot of the program, you know, the resulting programming exercise we went through with the chief. So at the end of the day, uh we're looking at a program area of around

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18,500 square ft. That's without circulation. So there's a little bit of an increase as a result of that. So really, we're just under 20,000 square feet. And we'll be showing you that plan in a minute. But that's so that is based

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upon these categories that we see here. You know the public interface administrative operation arm apparatus bays and support spaces sleeping quarters right rest and wellness don't have any of that in either station

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today and back house support functionality. So, I just wanted to show you where we landed and then we're we're going to move in to look at the two existing locations right now. So, currently we're operating out of Chief and his team are operating out of

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two stations. If you haven't been to either one, I highly encourage you to go down meet the chief or one of his team members and have them give you a tour of the facility. So, they're both located here. So the the one on the southeastern edge is fire

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station one, 300 Main Street, never constructed to be a full-time fire service or firehouse. Then at the northeastern node, we see fire station 2. the original built or the building on

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the left was the original horse and buggy fire service node at that point which you know has a lot of a lot of value I think from a community perspective and we we actually played around with that a fair amount as

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conceptually anyway at a high level it's part of the study but so all in between these two facilities uh we're looking at 10,600 square feet so that's That's what the chief is working out of across these

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two sites today against our 185 member. So, we'll zoom into station one location. Again, this is southeastern edge. Here you can see the lot area with the blue dash line. Uh a couple things about this site which made us kind of

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pivot or or move on relatively quickly uh because of some environmental considerations and those are the it's in a flood plane and then it's it's bound by wetlands. There's also a hazardous site across the street. We don't have

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any tests or no testing was available at the fire station location, but it's you know fairly likely that that that site might be contaminated to not absolutely certain about that. But for those first two reasons alone, I mean the building

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itself is also deficient across the board in terms of code and what we would need today both from an accessibility architectural um space needs approach but also systems

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wise you know MEP systems etc. Here's a quick peek inside. These pictures do not do the space justice. Uh, but there is lots of overlapping functions here. I think I mentioned there's no there's no real sleeping uh area in here. So, as

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you can see, there's Murphy beds and offices and sharing with the day room, which is also doubles as an office. Uh there's there's gear storage and overlapping in places that are are not really adequate. There's no proper

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decontam decontamination flow through here. We have exercise equipment and storage rooms as well as you know more sleeping quarters etc. I'll also say that the apparatus storage bays here

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are undersized for the equipment that we have. And in fact, the chief cannot keep all of his equipment under roof uh between the two locations. Fire station 2 again up at the northeastern edge. This is the one that

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we did uh want to entertain. uh just the value of that older building was really intriguing to us and uh it's kind of a nice neighborhood here. So, as you can see, there's a couple diagrams at the base of of this uh image which shows a couple of strategies that we were

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looking at. Uh what we found though was we were limited from a lot size perspective here, right? So, you know, you you folks had added on that double bay 10 years ago. U but that's already compressed on size,

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too. So, in fact, you can't walk from side to side when the doors are closed because there's just not enough room already uh within those facilities. So, both of these schemes explored adding a third bay, you know, outside or to the right of uh

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the the two bay apparatus area here. Uh that's the most we could get while trying to optimize the remainder of the program on this site. And what you don't see here is there's certainly not enough room for parking, right? So at that

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point in time we were of directed to okay we've going to beat this up pretty good at least to see what would fit what won't fit and then we moved on to future site >> just before you leave that I just want to point out that

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>> the the diagrams kind of reflect the current needs but it doesn't also doesn't give you any room for any future expansion if you ever wanted to down the road. Well, that's a that's and that's that's a great point, John. Thank you for bringing that up because we do think about grow, you know, we we accommodate

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growth, right, within uh what we lay out here, but then there's always the, you know, we want to be sensitive economically as well, but leave the door open for expansion. So, I would say so that's that's the lens through which we looked at this with as well. It's an

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important point. Thank you. Here's a quick peek at at some of the existing conditions. Again, encourage everyone to to stop by and say hi to the to the team down there or up there in this case. Uh you can see the structure

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on the the older building um is deteriorating in various places with exposed rebar. uh again not code compliant at all on the inside from a program and operational perspective.

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So yeah, I'm going to move on to the next piece. So here's a a little snapshot of what we were looking at from a response time analysis. And again, this is built straight from call data. Um, and we're we use some software that really looks

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at your your street layout, densities, traffic lights, etc. So, the first two scenarios look at a single station, single 24/7 station. The the scenario three and four look at a a hybrid model,

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which is most likely where, you know, we will end up anyway. But I will I will just add so that has both north and southern existing stations with that third piece being uh you know the ideal location for a 247

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station. So actually scenario yes sir >> is it a third location plus the other two or just a new location in and eliminating stations one and two. So I I think that I think there's still value

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in one and two and they could be used as substations, right? On call stations, which is, you know, they're much more appropriate for that because they don't have the appropriate accommodations. So yeah, we're looking, this study is really looking at that new 247 station

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uh that does allow them to operate effectively. Uh so but I will point out station two from a location perspective is really the ideal location and you can see so the green shading is indicative

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of a 4minute response time window right so it's it's a little misleading in that you have three stations here uh you're actually getting more uh response out of one station located here within that

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4-minute window and that's because of the location with your street layout. Um, all things considered, right over here is a little bit more remote. Um, so you're really not gaining a whole lot. So, at the time of the study, uh, we did

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look at all of your town owned assets and the availability of, you know, where where could we put this? That's kind of close to scenario two, right? So at that time uh we couldn't find the right size parcel to to make that happen for the

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study. So we chose a a test site for the study so we could move it along at least understand the you know the money behind the building itself and we captured kind of a worst case scenario with the site with this test fit site. Um, so as a

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team, we we actually selected one kind of close to scenario three. And I'll show you that in just a second. Go the right way. 1850 maple. Uh, what was our test site? What made this a good candidate? Other

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>> I'm sorry, Ralph. I've got a text. Someone's trying to get on Zoom and they're I guess they need to be led in. >> Okay. >> My my apologies. Thank you. >> Oh, that just isn't the escape. >> You know what? I'll just go back over

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here. >> That's okay. >> Oh, maybe that X. >> Sorry about that. >> You t Okay. Perfect. Yeah. So, a couple of things about this site that made it a good candidate, you

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know, to try to capture the value. Anyway, uh it's it's an undeveloped site. It has no utilities. Actually has a uh wetlands, but what's what's the word? >> Potential perennial stream. >> Perennial stream. You can see the red

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line coming down around here, and that is a wetland buffer line. So, we were very sensitive to that. Um so, yeah. Anyways, the interesting that those were some of the pieces that the site offers from early high level analytical

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perspective and as a placeholder if you will. And what we're really interested in u with a site like this as well is the road frontage. And we're going to zoom into the the site and show you how that lays out because this really is all

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about access and response. Okay. So, with that, I'm gonna hand it over to Ethan and he will walk us through. You got it. Thank you, Mark. So, as Mark was just showing before, um

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the test that we used April 1850, uh is roughly a 15 acre site that the town owns right now. What we're seeing here is roughly only two to three acres needed to create this new facility. Um, and working on with the the chief

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and his staff, we kind of wanted to develop the most optimized new uh 247 response space we could uh in this scenario. And so you can see here on the left hand side, we sort of separate the apparatus space where all the trucks would be housed in these double deep

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drive-thru bays, which is sort of uh the trend we're seeing right now in in public safety world um for, you know, passible response times and shorter um resetting of of operations. And on the right hand side, you see the employee parking area and public parking which is just in front of the main entrance.

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There's also a separate um employee entrance directly off the employee parking lot. And uh one thing to note as well, and we'll talk about that in a second, is the opportunity for growth should you know downtown D need an extra bay. There is space to the left of this

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of this concept to add additional bay without you know major um impact to the existing. >> Is this proposed lot? Is this a an existing um is is this an area that is a potential spot for this or is this just

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I I know you used the term test area. Is it like hypothetical or is it potential? >> So it's you know if we looked at those four scenarios it's not in the ideal >> optimal location in the town for response times >> but it's fairly close >> fairly close.

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Someone's not. >> So, yes, >> sounds like somebody needs to mute. >> I think I think someone just >> um >> Yeah, it is a Yeah, we use it as a test site. I think there's further

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investigation that should be done, you know, within the town and, you know, we can certainly assist with that time comes. But yeah, I think we want to be ideally you want to be over by that eastern edge >> for the best for the most optimal,

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>> right? >> But this is uh currently open by the time. we just went ahead with this to show >> potential scenario should you want to develop this >> and I will add if I may Ethan that you know a lot of what Ethan is walking through right now in terms of the some some of the design thinking is easily

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transferable and that's why you know I mentioned the the road frontage is really one of the more important things as well as the site depth >> right >> is there an actual address for this >> 1850 >> 1850 50%.

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>> So yeah, just to reiterate, uh this is a roughly two to three acre site which would be needed to develop this which could be anywhere but this is the current building you're looking at with this uh current location. Um and so this is a you know a rough rendering of what this uh station could look like. Um it's

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not final. This is just you know quick study we did. There's some other iterations you can see in the full study report and the appendix. Um but overall what we're looking at is trying to develop a building that sort of um respected the architecture and the you

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know typical colonial shed houses you see in the in the neighborhood and not feel so imposing. So we sort of hid the second story of this building and a dormer design for the sleeping quarters in the gabled roof. So that way sort of uh minimize the the height of the

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building um to what it actually is. So looking here just sort of overall layout of both floors here. Again on the left hand side the first floor is the apparatus and sports spaces. In the center is the lobby and public zones and training area. And on the right hand

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side is the office spaces. On the second floor are the personal quarters um which have uh two egress stairs that can access the apparatus space from both both sides. So looking a little closer at the first floor uh of this design. Um,

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one of the components that Mark mentioned too is is you know in the apparatus design we want to separate the hot zones and the cold zones. Hot zones being areas for decontamination after response um to remove any um material off of the equipment. And so we allowed

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for that to be on the furthest edge of the building. So that way in the future should you want to add additional bay that would also allow you know the units to add their put their equip in there for decontamination. And on the right hand side of the apparatus bay is all

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the cold storage spaces and EMS support rooms um with the medical center directly off the lobby space. In the center is the training room area um roughly um you know 1,500 square ft which can be used for training and also for public

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meeting space um and would be used as the town's emergency operation center in case of emergency. And then again on the right hand side are just the offices and chief chief spaces for for admin use.

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If you go back for a second just want to point out that there is two separate entrances for public from the front and staff from the side. So if someone's coming in the front door, there's doors to the left and right that are all secured. So they can't get into the apparatus bay or into the offices. some

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security in there as well for for the uh for the staff. >> Are four bathrooms necessary? >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. >> Are four bathrooms necessary? >> So, we're showing uh two that are would

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be used for the public. Uh one on is in the office space which is again uh John was just pointing out is a you know dedicated space for the admin space that public is not allowed into. And then there's a fourth one that is used in the airport space. So um you're not

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spreading any contamination between the spaces. >> Again this is a feasibility study. So this is not final design but this is just you know showing >> sort of you know optimized design um for benefit for this the chief and his team

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as well as the public. On the second floor is the personal space for the sleeping quarters. Uh in this design we have six rooms and one office room um which we use as double rooms um double bunks and um to allow

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for future growth. And again they're aligned along the southern edge of this building so that way there's easy access to both stairs for quick response times. And on the north end side there are the day room, kitchen spaces and the exercise room. Um, we also showed an opportunity to add an outdoor space that

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connects all those communal areas. Um, and also in this design with the large gabled roof, we're able to, you know, hide the height of that building. We're also able to use it as a penthouse shield to hide any mechanic equipment on the second floor. So, you can see in

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this rendering, um, mechanical space would be over here on the where the emblem is on the right hand side of the building. So this is just a quick snapshot looking at uh few towns in Massachusetts that are similar size that have recently

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built um fire departments. Um and you can see um we had a cost estimate done total cost was about 27 million which is right in the between sort of other towns

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you see here. And again, I think one thing to note, the top one dates back from 2021. And obviously, as we're all aware, prices have really escalated since then. And with that, I will back to Mark so we can go through a little more detail on

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the Great. Thanks, Ethan. Yeah, I think the the other slide also kind of just uh it's a good check too in terms of where we ended with square footages and relationship to what communities kind of similar to yours have been looking at

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and are doing. So yeah, Ethan uh just kind of shared the where this project came in as a total project. If we back up, it's so a little over 20 million for the direct construction cost and then soft costs which which include design

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fees. So taking it from you know this highle study through a design process OPMS uh all of those things there's any temporary movement of items that would be captured in the middle number as well. Um those all get that gets layered

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together and we're looking at about 27 today. Uh the good news is, you know, we're not looking to we're here to present the project, make everybody understand it, how it uh how it came to be in terms of what Chief and

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his team are are working with today, and uh yeah, give a a realistic kind of perspective of what what an appropriate station like this would be. So yeah, next steps.

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All right. More more investigation on that optimized kind of town owned site whether whether you already own it uh or there's an acquisition of some sort or whatnot. In parallel to that is the funding question

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that's probably going to come through a few different pathways. We we do have a consultant that we work with and specializes in that as well. And then of course design, right? It's going to go through a actual design

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process that's that will make it buildable essentially and a bit of a package and then construction. So this isn't a project that's going to happen next year or the year after that, right? This is it's going to take a little time

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to to, you know, to get to to where we need to be. But uh it's a good place to start is to understand you know kind of the task ahead or the need I should say. Yeah. So that's really it. Happy to take any questions we have.

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>> Sure. How do you determine the 75 life year years uh life expectancy of this >> material selections that we're we're looking at? you know, the envelope, the systems, etc. So, we like to look, you

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know, there's a range, right, depending. So, but that's really where we want to be is we don't want you. So, it's not a in insignificant amount of money. So, >> yeah, we and I know it's too early, but

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the funding sources are uh sometimes tied in with how long a building is supposed to be built out for. >> Exactly. And is that part of your study uh as far as that 75 years or is it just too early for that?

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>> Uh it's so we haven't dug into ourselves the different funding mechanisms and I think that's a you know becomes a bit of a deeper conversation with probably the folks that >> left um but yeah we do do life cycle cost analysis and right that's really

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what it comes down to. You know, you have the immediate upfront construction cost, but then the operational costs, right? And that is something that we do consider even at this high level from a systems approach. This was like if you read through the report, it is

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set up to be an all electric facility. >> Yep. >> Um so >> I saw the solar panels. >> Yep. And you can offset some of that load, right? Through that we can >> it will be explored more. >> Sure. >> I'll say that. Right. depending upon the

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ultimate end all site. But yeah, all of those things are considered to your point and >> you know what the square footage cost was for the uh before the soft cost. >> Yeah, it's about it's 850 in right which

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is is the temperature of the market. >> Yeah. But you know our what we're seeing is um you know the exterior climate I guess or societal climate with lots of shifting >> fundings here and there taking away of

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fundings in different areas has actually made the public safety market more competitive >> certainly on the construction end and that's what we're seeing out there today. Sure. >> Which is a a positive right in this case.

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>> Uh again, thank you for waiting. I know, like I said, it was tedious out here. >> Oh, definitely. >> Um but unfortunately, we had to do what we had to do. Um but uh great presentation. Thank you. I don't have anything else this time. more comments.

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>> No, I I I think it certainly for me at least it it gives me some good awareness of where we stand right now with the facilities and and the uh it's a somewhat urgent need, I guess. >> Yeah. Right. And I think you guys mentioned it earlier, prices are now

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going down. >> Um >> vehicles are buildings. >> You mentioned that there's someone on your team that looks at uh funding sources and >> Yes. is does that include looking at grants and and things of that nature? We here in the town, we don't have a

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full-time grant writer. Uh our town administrator looks at grants. There's other, you know, I'm sure that our fire department is looking at grants, but that's something that I would be very interested in to hear how that works. Um, you know, because,

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>> you know, Ralph and I just had a conversation today on uh, you know, meeting with our legislators and having them come around town again and showing them our fire station and and other parts of town and continuing their buy in, but having someone such as yourself

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and your team that um, share some expertise that we might not have be huge. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> So, um, do you guys do proposals for that? Is is that how that works? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> If I if I may, one of the last meetings

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we had, we we brought that up and um Mark, there's some um we met with the library team. They brought someone who they work with who has who deals with uh federal grants for rural fire uh fire department. So, it's kind of funny. I

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had seen these grants pop up like two two days earlier and and they had someone associated with it. So so you know as we move through the process uh that's um that's somewhat they could have absolute.

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>> So as we move through what is the next step of the process? Would would it be that? Well, the the next step of the process is like what right what is the what is the will of the selectman in the community to u to move this move this

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project forward. I think uh they they laid out the steps and if this is something that we want to do uh you know it's it's good we need to identify the site you know I mean are we is this program

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we like do we move forward with it um do we do we look for a site we have limited sites for uh that the town owns uh and then we have to make the decision is do we want to use a town owned site or do we want to uh uh purchase a site. Once

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we right once we um figure that part out, then we go on to the funding side. Okay. >> For the most part, funding will be uh you know, we'll look at grant opportunities, but probably be a mix of grant opportunities and a dead exclusion and then design construction.

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>> Thank you. So, if I could just add like um when we went through the process, the EOC was added in there uh intentionally because there is grant opportunities for buildings that incorporate an EOC into the structure. That's why the um

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training space, public meeting space was was also dubbed as a EOC area. So, that way that kind of a grant opportunity could be looked at if it's if it's available at that time. Um, the other thing I'd like to say just in the site selection, you know, you you gentlemen

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are very familiar with the town obviously and the geographics of it. Um, our current fire stations, as you're aware, are on the eastern border of this town. Um, so when we have to service the west end of town, um, and our ambulance is only serviced out of the southeast corner. When we're going to the

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northwest corner of Dyon up to Chestnut Street, North Street, Mandid Lane, it's a considerable response time for an ambulance to get there for somebody who's having a heart attack, fell down their stairs, whatever it might be. So, we we we really need to have our

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ambulance in a in a better geographic center uh location in the town to to better service our community. Okay. from William Street. How far down is 1850 on street?

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>> It's It's about halfway down Maple Street. >> Halfway down. >> Approximately, right? Yes. >> Halfway between Williams and Oak approximately. >> Okay. >> Is that the property that we currently have some highway department storage? It's roughly this location.

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>> That's the one with the shade. >> That's the highway has some >> Yeah. Yeah. So, the only pieces that we we explored in the study were town-owned partials. Um, and there's very few. Uh, there's one that we looked at on Center

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Street. Obviously, there's uh the old Briggs, which isn't a big enough lot. We looked at here at Town Hall. Um, we looked at 1850. There's a couple of town parcels on Tmont Street, but again, we're we're shifting to one end of the town again that so that we were kind of

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lopsided again. And that's why um we ended up just going with the 1850 Maple Street site just as the worst case scenario in the um exploration of the the civil or side of things to say that

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this has uh wetlands. It has all the bad the worst stuff that we could possibly come across if we if we chose a site. Mhm. >> In your experience, um, I guess I'm not sure who the best person to ask is, do you have to pick a site before you start

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looking at grant funding and opportunities? Because I feel like if you know the funding available, that might influence this the site and how much you might pay to acquire a site or keep a site that might not be optimal. But, you know, depending on the funds

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available, we might, you know, use the 1850 maple versus if we had lots of grant funds available, we might acquire a site. Is that uh something that we can kind of look at? >> We can depends on the grant, right? It's like a >> um

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>> Right. So there are >> for and this is not for uh for fire service but like say mass works has certain grants for for land acquisition. So we would have to look is are there

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land acquisition grants available for uh for fire service for for public safety? There are grants again as I said in rural community uh um fire building there are there are grants for that. So

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so we I I haven't took we haven't taken a a deep enough look at it. We just sort of want this process first. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Any any other discussion? >> No. >> No. Thank you. Thank you very much. >> Thank you.

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>> Thank you. >> So um wrap this discussion. I think it would be nice if we could get on a future agenda to have that discussion on funding and um and progress.

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>> Okay. Um next we have on the agenda public input. Is there anyone here for public input? >> That's patience. >> I have something fun. You know, that's tedious. >> So, I'm the chairperson, as you know,

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250th anniversary committee. So, this weekend, we are having a play from the Dyon History Players. They're middle school kids. Um, Dyon 1776, a vote for independence. And uh Zach Karen is the script writer,

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adapter, producer, director. And so it's a retelling of the May 20th, 1776 meeting when Dyton voted for independence. Um we have two shows, but the 2:00 show

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was already sold out. Three tickets and it sold out. So we do still have some openings at the 6:00 show. So I came to invite you to join us. It'll be fun. It's a lot of fun. Also coming up, we have a couple of things coming up. Um,

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we'll be at the couch festival. We'll have a table there. We'll have a table at the Strawberry Festival. In June, the libraries hosting programs. June 9th, they have greetings from Breed Hill. And then June, oh, July, they have all

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Yankees, all hands, Yankee Whailing, the US Navy, and the Treasury Department. Um June 13th is the strawberry festival from the historical society and also the historical society is um having a

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historic house and garden tour on June 27th and tickets are $25 for that and that goes to the society of course. Um on August 18th, we're having the reading of the Declaration of Independence at the Community Church

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with the cemetery walk highlighting 10 to 12 of the Revolutionary War soldiers that are buried there. Last year we did 13 soldiers that are buried there. I think there's about 36 in that cemetery. Um, and then of course in September,

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September 26th and 27th is our great big reenactment and encampment at Woods Farm right here on 138. Um, we'll also be at the Lions Arts Festival and we'll be at the dedication

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of our U Revolutionary War Veterans Memorial podium. So, those are fun things that you can look forward to. Um, so I just wanted to invite you especially to the play. C >> can you give me the details on that again? You said >> the play six o'clock here

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>> on Saturday. >> Yep. On Saturday you can uh register through Eventbrite. Um, that's how we've been counting seats. Always invite have kids involved. It actually touches a whole group of people that might not reach out, you

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know, or come to something, you know, parents and kids. So, um, yeah, should be fun. It is fun. The kids are awesome. Awesome. >> Cool. >> So, look for something fun to do besides money. >> Thank you for you and your committee's

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hard work honoring our 250. >> Oh, thank you. Thank you. It's been fun. Our meetings are much more fun. You could come to our meetings if you wanted. >> Sounds great. >> Very nice. Any other public input, Mr. Ferry? I don't know if I'm as funny.

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>> It's that time of year. As you know, one of our biggest events for the Dayton Lions is it's coming up really quick. Um our Lions Club has been very involved in our own community. Always has been. Uh we branched out a little bit over the winter. We're exploring uh feasibility

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study for this whole complex starting off with the bleaches. Uh over the winter also we joined this whole district for mental illness for the youth in that hospital down in Plymouth. That's we're doubling the size of our

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capacity there. That's very important because that's everyone has someone in the hand struggles with that I'm sure. Uh anyways, historically, I don't know if you've been coached, but usually right after the election, we seek the

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newly elected slept to help judge on the couch festival if you're available. >> You don't have to answer today, >> but if you can get back to me, I don't have your contact. >> Judging uh what exactly what is what is the uh >> kind of like you did already tonight.

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You got to >> Thank you. So it's the the cow chip actually >> cow tip >> cow ship >> cow ship cow ship. Okay. >> Okay. >> Uh that that actually happens Saturday afternoon. >> Okay. >> Yep. That it's a three-day festival and

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that's one of our largest fundraisers for the year. >> Okay. >> We are doing an arts festival here later this year. Um that one's getting a lot of momentum too, but right now the couch hip is the largest event. Um the stage is quite full already too. And we got

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the school of rock band Friday night. Um the shitans there at 2:00. The goat ropers. Not sure what that is. >> Country. >> Country. >> Country be great.

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>> I hope so. And um we also have the chicken barbecue later that Saturday afternoon. Tickets. We need tickets for the chicken barbecue cuz that the tickets I have them they're also on sale to the general public at the under the sun. So that's that's what I had to share tonight. So

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>> do you have any extras of those those is that a flyer? >> Yes. >> Oh yeah Tom was going to be here. >> Yeah. And um I know we took a break last year for reasons, but um all the way

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from the parking lot down is what you were thinking again. >> Uh we'll be utilizing the whole complex. >> Yeah. >> Oh, across the street as well across the street, but >> yes. Um when we needed to take a break, we're flirting around with 100 vendors, >> right? >> And we didn't have room at the current

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the previous location. >> Yep. >> So obviously we have room here. Um, we are going to start here like you're saying, work our way that way. We'll probably move the band this way. That's not all set in stage stone yet because we got to assess electric availability and stuff like that. >> Okay.

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>> And they may be staging food trucks also to help draw the crowd also. >> Um, the podium, when is that coming in for uh the veterans? I know it's kind of not your subject right now, but >> it's in I'm I incarcerated it at the

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highway garage. >> Okay. It's in a safe location where it's not going to get bumped. >> Um after Memorial Day, sometime during the summer, we'll mount the foundation. >> Yep. >> So that way there um when we get closer to Veterans Day for the unveiling, we can just set the 40 on the foundation.

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>> Okay, good. >> And uh how much were the tickets for the barbecue? >> Uh they're 18. >> Y need somebody to judge that as well. I'd be happy to uh if there's any other questions. No, no, I'm all set. >> Thank you for your hard work and and for

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uh for doing this year after year. >> Makes unique for sure. You know, puts us on the map. >> Thanks, guys. >> Thank you. >> Have a good night. >> Any anyone on Zoom for public input? >> All righty. Uh selectman's report. Any

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any reports? Um, I would simply say that I did uh tender my resignation to the open space committee, but I did express my interest to them that uh for for being a liaison and they would certainly accept that and

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appreciate it. >> Okay, awesome. So hopefully we can get that on a future agenda. >> Yes. >> Great. Um, all right. I don't have one town administrator's report. The um the only thing is on June 3rd,

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Wednesday, June 3rd, we're going to have the joint meeting with the Berkeley selectment to discuss the I uh the intermunicipal agreements for the animal control officer and for the health agency. So, I just want to make you guys aware of that. 6 6 PM I'll be sending

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you obviously updates. uh uh 6 p.m. and we're going to have it on a neutral ground. We're going to have a crystal egg. So cool. That's it. That's all I have for now. >> Thank you. Uh so next we have review,

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discuss next, approve, and sign the annual town meeting warrants. Any um any motions to that effect? >> I'll make that motion. >> All right, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> I will second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? I >> I >> I motion carries. Uh we have a

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facilities request for the board of health farmers market. Ralph, any um on that? >> They they have I think I spoke with Liz. They have about right now 12 vendors for the first one.

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>> So it will be on a Sunday um a Sunday late late morning early afternoon. I noticed Liz has her contact. Is she writing it? >> Uh, the health department is writing the initial initial point. Yes.

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>> Is there a date for that? >> Yeah, there would be 517 >> 621. It goes on to 2 p.m. >> Oh, okay. >> Wasn't looking at the door. Uh I make a motion to reprove approve

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the request for the uh farmers market. >> All right, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> Absolutely. >> All right, motion second. Any discussion? All in favor? >> I I motion carries the ratification of the clerical contract. We will table to

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a future meeting if uh there's any motions to do so. >> I'll make motion to table. >> All right, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I >> I motion carries and approval of the warrants. >> Okay, we have three uh dates to approve

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warrants paid by April 30th, 2026. 44 A-26 for $126,68051. 44 B-26 $106,549 44 C-26 $4562.77 Warrants paid by May 7th 2026 44 A-26

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$130,3351 44 45B-26 $718,699.70 and 45 C-26 667,152.74. And last but not least, uh, war once for May 14th, 46A-26,

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$144,738.85. 46B-26, $139,7812 and 46 C-26,3,350,477.50. Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> I have a second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. >> I. Motion carries. Next, we have some

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correspondence. Uh, one from Paul Reynolds. He is um resigning from the Conservation Commission. Um, I'm not going to read it, but I will say thank the Paul for his

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hard work in the conservation commission. And we also have a resation from Laura Armstrong for the elderly and disabled tax funds. >> She's resigning from

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>> Yes. Thank you to Laura for your hard work on that that committee. too many resignations. >> Our town officials are certainly spread thin with all the different boards and committees that they're on. Um, is there

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any other public input tonight? And is there any motions to adjurnn? >> Make that motion. >> All right. Is there a second? >> I have a second. >> All in favor? I I Good night.