hey man hello can you hear me hello there you are hi Matt um hold on crossing quality transmission it's like a big rock wall in front of it uh the tenant landlord got in screaming match while I was there and both pulled guns on each other stand
right in the middle can you guys hear us yes perfect okay so we have everybody ready to start i got We're good hey I'd like to call this meeting to order it's uh exactly 4
pm it's March 18th this is a regular meeting remote participation in Zoom meeting it's a public meeting being recorded for cable broadcasts internet posting on YouTube it's like having fast too matt you got
to mute all right so if you can stand up for the pledge of allegiance i pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under
God liberty and justice for all introduction um Vincent Heert a board of health member i'm Tammy Melo i'm an acting chairman in the absence of Barbara
all right so we're going to start with uh reports announcements um we'll start with Matt Tannis the health agent if he's ready to to go Matt you all set to go uh sure or do you need a minute uh nope nope i'm juggling multiple things
here so just bear with me okay um I don't have too much to report um had a couple perks and plans and systems going in um I think that's about it um I do have the info regarding Pleasant Street
but um I really just saw it pretty much yesterday so it's going to take a little time for me to get through it so I don't have anything really to report on that matter okay all right i mean I don't want to jump ahead but
are we going to talk about that Pleasant Street piece uh TM yes okay okay yes that's definitely on here what we'll do is we'll have a report um given by Liz the office manager first and then we'll move down to um down the agenda and get
to Pleasant Street if that's okay okay super all right so I just wanted to remind the board that tonight is the budget meeting 700 PM it would be held here with the selectman it's pretty quick i don't know if there's an option for you to join on Zoom but I can
accompany Tammy Tammy tonight um we should be done by 7:15 as long as they're on schedule okay rabies vaccine clinic just a reminder April 12th uh 9 to 12 at Bristol Aggie uh it's open to
all towns there's a $15 fee there's more information on the website but let everybody know spread the word get it out there so you know we people can take advantage of it bulky items week that is going to be held May
12th through the 16th ticket sales will start on April 7th i generally like to give people a month to purchase tags um but after the rabies vaccine clinic I think is when Tommy's going to push the
um street sign out there and move it around to advertise the bulky items uh town trash bag vendor balances i have a little Excel spreadsheet in your packet it's right after the bulky
items flyer so I went through what the vendors owe us and it's getting pretty high up there the majority of it is Hanniffords um so I wanted to with your blessing start calling some of the
vendors to tell them what they owe us and see if we can get some of this paid off um this will roll into the trash bag vendor agreement right now our agreement was um last edited or updated in
probably like 1998 so there doesn't it doesn't even have the right trash price bag the bags aren't priced right um there is no um there's nothing for me to say hey you 30 days past due you're going against
your vendor agreement that you signed um so getting the vendor agreement edited and over to the selectman so they can act because we the board of health can't do contracts that only comes from the selectment but if we
get them you know something they can review it and you know either approve it or fix it themselves add whatever they see fit but right now I don't think we have anything to hold these vendors accountable saying
you're you're late you were supposed to pay this um so is that is that something that could be implemented or we make a a recommendation to the board of selecting to add i think it's you make a recommendation to the board of selectmen i will confirm i'm not 100% sure
but I took the old one and just tweaked it a little bit i don't know if Vinnie you're probably good with you know contracts and legal stuff so I was hoping you could take the rain on that one if Is this all the information that you have if not I'll
um get me whatever you whatever you've got on it send it to me and I'll and I'll look at it but the you know looking at the invoices I mean Johnny's Market uh 1,25 just right off the top you know from December and that was the one that we had the issue with previously right
and we're giving them a second chance so I don't know if there's a a payment schedule i don't know if they've got 30 days i think he got mixed up with his invoices because he paid the January one first okay which the January one was 9,000 so I'm glad he paid the January
one first but sounds like I think he just Yeah he got his invoices mixed up says "How about Hannah's looking um at what they owe?" So they still owe something is this correct 2022 yeah yeah i've been So they they put me
They put me through the runaround three years old i know i have to go into their portal i have to submit a a ticket and then it's a big process and we keep going back and forth they tell me this check was used for that the way it was
tracked before wasn't um the previous office manager would just take the payment and put it toward the oldest invoice which when it came down to trying to rectify the account that didn't work out so well because I
said this invoice is still open and they were like we paid you with this check for that so there wasn't invoice numbers used so they just went by dates so since I started I started adding invoice numbers to all the receipts so we could balance
out the account so I'm still trying to figure out what check was used for that payment and what what other one did I miss because if I applied the payment they said they gave me to something else now that ticket that receipt is still unpaid so it's it's been an ongoing
thing um um Liz can I can I ask I mean are you responsible for accounts payable for for these past due amounts or would that be through um through like the the town accountant i think you know once we're not getting anything from them
this this has happened multiple times already if any they pay up and then they slowly stop sending checks the balance gets big we start you know telling them "Hey we're gonna cut you off." You know it takes months but they finally pay up and then they slowly start not sending
in checks again so it seems to be like a vicious cycle with with them that's called business yeah that's Yeah uh yeah I I'll if you could send me like a one of the contracts if you could send me anything else you have on this
um you know again I I I would I would have thought that and and again I I I could be wrong that this would chasing these amounts would come through the town you know through um you know the accountant or if there's accounts payable uh if they do that if
not and that's your responsibility Liz sure I get that um but we should figure that first out out first but certainly I mean they've they you know looking at these just on the surface it's like you know this is
doesn't seem right to me um yeah they're quite they're quite behind yeah you know the other ones they usually this is how it usually has been and that's why the vendor agreement is going to be helpful they would pay when they placed the next order so if they didn't sell the case
for three months they weren't paying for three months yes oh when you see two two invoices owed you know they're they fell out of sequence like they're now two invoices behind when normally it's like I'll pay you for the last one bring me this one
um but it all depends on how long it takes them to sell that case so we really need to narrow down this vendor agreement and hold it to them um you know if if that's the way you want to keep it going that then that's fine
but should be I think you're right about that we really need to Yeah drum the reins here this this is a lot of money just in Hanford it's 47,400 yeah and then if you to chase them
around and and figure out you know the whole invoice um thing i think that's just I mean you're probably spending a good amount of time just on this yeah this morning I I just wanted to make sure my numbers were right so I did it twice and it does it you know I got to
go through all my turnins to make sure I didn't miss anything on the calculations make sure you know everything adds up on the Excel spreadsheet so yeah it just let's look at the Handford one if you you look at you know February 5th February 14th February 28th where they
paid the 28th but you didn't pay the two previous and then you go back to like um July of 2024 so yeah this is not right this this we you know this goes back to one of those things it's like we know
that the the trash bag program is always is is in a deficit no matter what even with a price even with a price increase so you know any of these monies that we we can get you it it's extremely important that you know keep the program
um in balance and you know not getting in a rears or going further in a rears so unfortunate part of it is Hanfords is the biggest vendor of our bags so they're the only ones that will let you purchase bags with debit card everybody
else is cash or check um and it's convenient people are doing their grocery shopping they're going to pick up bags so they're the biggest vendor of our bags so it you know to stop it's going to cause a little bit of friction you know people
we don't want to necessarily stop but still need to be compensated for what we're giving them and to say that we invoice from 2022 almost three years exactly 628 24 um it's almost a year
and they don't make it easy to get a hold of somebody it's like I got to put in a ticket and then I got to wait for them to investigate it and then you know they're sending me back payments they made and I'm verifying it against my spreadsheet so it it's
it it's taking too long and if they weren't nine invoices behind i mean if we were chasing them for two it wouldn't be so bad but they they have a lot of payments missing yeah i misspoke to it would be accounts receivable on our end
and accounts payable on their end so I would it would have to be someone in their accounts payable uh group that would be in charge of the account for the town yeah I have a contact i'm I'm I'm also
been aware of other cities and towns that use them and having the same problem so it's not just Den yeah yeah i I Yeah that's big company that's part of the part of the thing all right we can um like I said if you could just send me
all I need is to look at is like one contract and um any other information you have on this Liz and I'll look it over and I'll get back to you i'll send you the old one and then the revised one that I did probably last year is in the packet so I'll just give you what I have
so you can take what you need from whatever contract okay sounds good so would it be fair to say what we should do is um table uh this agreement for the next meeting Vinnie will uh then go through the agreement the two agreements see
what the differences is uh maybe make any potential uh revisions and at the next meeting we can go ahead and make a recommendation to give it over to uh the town selectman that so I think this is a good start um like Liz said you know um
revising the agreement just so we have something to stand on here and not chase i mean this is this is just crazy trying to chase $47,000 yeah and in total with everybody we're $73,000
right yeah you're right if you if you total everything up but just Hanfords alone is the 47 47 um and a good majority of your time is probably being spent on trying to organize this and it's just a waste of time because there's so many other
things that you could be doing so can I get a motion to um to table this until the next meeting or division motion motion to table uh pass due amounts for um the trash bag program
i step down and second that motion can I get a vote i I motion passes okay all right so the other thing I had a request for was actually Hannerfords they wanted a notice like an
official notice of what the bags went up to um they wanted to know you know what their cost versus retail so I sent them a letter and I put it in your packet just so you could take a look at it if it's something that you want me to send to all the vendors so there's no
confusion um I believe everybody knows about the price increase but I guess just to Liz where is that um it's the one that I signed it should be right after trash bags yeah the pay as you throw program dated February 1st
oh can I have a look at that i'm sorry oh thank you i couldn't see it i got it i You know what Liz i would I would say if Tammy agrees is is send it to all of them it's not going to hurt anything i
agree i agree with that yeah yeah that way there's you know we we gave him an official notice and not just a verbal over the phone that you know I don't want it to come back and say "Hey I've been selling them for the old price nobody told me."
And then it you know comes back on us but I think when vendors saw the price increase on their invoice they realized hey the prices went up right sure but to send it out would probably just be you know I think I think great idea
absolutely so can I get a motion on sending out the um the trash bag letter to all the vendors yep uh letter to send out the um trash bag to all vendors yeah sec i stepped
down and second that motion can I get a vote i I motion passes all right so the next thing I had in your packet was the list of deceased birds that people have been calling me and telling me about i spoke to Stacy
and she said she only needed to know if there was three or more dead birds in one area but I thought it would be good to just keep track because what if they're in three different yards do you know what I mean sure so I did the first
three and they're really kind of close to each other um Wheeler and Williams and then I didn't know where Sesame Street was but it's not that far off from Wheeler so yeah that's right down the street that's
right on from Maple Street i'll just keep track of what's coming down what's coming in and I'll send it down to Stacy you know as I get new updates but there wasn't many there was only you know one or two reported okay i think
that's that's a good idea um all right did we miss anything else uh I just got an email today um there is a I just want to advise um everyone at home there's a health fair at Lincoln
Village on April 29 from 1 to 3 um it's being put on by Charm Medical the Council on Aging Annabella Powell sent it to me and she asked if the town nurse which we'd have to ask the regional
nurse or the Dyon Board of Health was interested in setting up a table i told them I was meeting with you today so I would get back to her um we do have some um I guess they call a swag left from
when Nicole Mella was here the little gift bags and flashlights and hand sanitizer so we did want to set up a table um we have a tablecloth that we can set up and a few things to give away so it's up to the board if anybody wants
to attend and represent Titan Health okay now is that something that you would be doing um so I can Let me go to a microphone can I share with you yeah yeah why not do you want to start by
introducing yourselves yes um so good afternoon my name is Melissa Silverman i am the regional public health nurse for the shared service agreement um Northern Bristol County Public Health Alliance um so I had actually been informed of the health fair um Bella had extended the
invitation to me uh so I contacted the shared service coordinator this afternoon um just to see in terms of um alliance um education materials I could also present but I am interested in attending
um as of right now because I'm still working on my screening forms to do health screenings for the town of Dyen it probably would be more of a um introductory uh part for me at this moment in time
but you know it is the end of April so by then things could have changed where I could offer additional things maybe um as long as I have the permission from the the host was it Charm Medical so I would assume yeah I would have to
get in touch with the charm medical host um and also um check you know with the town of Dyon if that's something that if I could do more outreach um right now it would just be me introducing myself to the town sure yeah i mean I think it I
think it sounds great because right now we don't have a nurse we're so happy to have you we're so happy to see you yeah no thank you i I appreciate you welcome and um you know I've been doing a little bit of um introductory meetings um with I mean
it's been mostly board of health related but I actually met the chief of police yesterday um you know we have I have some great ideas through talking to the council of aging um so yeah there's a lot of exciting ideas that I would be happy to support the town as best as I
can love it i can put together the little goodie bags and then get you the tablecloth and we'll Yeah go from there but now do we need to make a motion on that um I don't think so i don't think so just wanted to double check yeah i don't think so
Vinnie i I mean I think it's a win-win it's a It's a great thing that if Melissa represents the town of Dyon at the Lincoln Village 100% i agree yep we don't have any uh town nerves so that would be wonderful and we do like I said
we have those little uh flashlights and and other little swag as as they call it um to hand out so give them give him the pen right so yeah thank you so much Melissa thank you very much okay so Stacy you're perfect timing
all right so we're gonna move on um we're still in old business um so we'd like to discuss 2651 Pleasant Street in an update um so Ellie would you like to go
first yes i'm I'm just here for Do you want to go to the podium sorry making you go on the hot seat over there or the hot stand um Ellie Bedro um 209 Beach Street i'm here for an update because we were here last fall for um all the animals that
are on Pleasant Street and there's other places in this town also that I've learned about that it's in the same situation so I want to know what the town's going to do about okay um so we or I have gone back I had just started in when the first
time came i think it I believe it was August um so um Barbara unfortunately is not here uh right now uh so I have taken over her position temporarily until she comes back um so reviewing um it looks
like Barbara had mentioned um that and I'm going to have uh the animal control officer come up and give her um her spiel on this but uh that she had mentioned to go to D that there was really nothing that the town could do however having a health agent now
changes things so um we're going to be um talking with Matt he's here on Zoom um so I think we we're going to look at the situation again and uh re-evaluate and at that point uh we can figure out what we're doing so we're kind of regrouping a little bit there's been
some changes on the board with uh members and uh new agent um so I think we need to start there if that makes sense to you do you have any questions how quickly summer's coming it's going
to get it's going to get down there i I mean I I think that we can resolve this um or give you an answer as far as a resolution pretty quickly uh it's just a matter of um you know speaking with Matt uh talking with animal control officer and figure out figuring out where we are
and and what can be done as the board of health and and what can be done by the town of Diane how about we strengthen the laws on how many animal animals you can have on the property well that's a little more difficult but I'm going to let the animal control officer um talk about that because not that's not my um
my area of specialty that would be the animal control officer telling us exactly you know what can be done and and how difficult something can be um so I'm going to turn it over to her in just a second unless you have another question no I need I just want something
done because No understandable it's hard to breathe down there in the summertime it's tough sure okay thank you Ellie thank you Perry if you'd like to come up and give us an update for some guidance and
then we'll have Matt uh who's on Zoom also um let us know uh speaking from the health health agents perspective I I did go by there today i go by that daily but I mean I did go by the whole property today it is flooded
again but we did just get a whole bunch of rain um restricting animals on property in Don i don't see that happening anytime soon few things we are a right to farm community and two if you do that you're
going to restrict the farms that are that people don't seem to think are a problem um it wouldn't be something that I would stand for um and the state does not have any true guidelines on how many animals
anybody can have on their property they do not say well if you have a horse it has to have this much acreage or if you have this it has this much acreage they give you suggestions but nothing that says definite this is what needs to be
done we have put regulations in order b health has them um chickens what we basically went with chickens and that kind of stuff was they had to keep them in their own yard um they could free range as long as they stayed in their own yard and they need
to have right um housing and right food and they had to be healthy anytime I've gone to that property that's all been the standard i've been there with the MSPCA i've been there with ARIRL i have been there yearly for myself because the
state requires me to go there um and never have I ever seen any sick animals or anything like that they've always had proper housing any kind of little things that we had they fixed within a week
so I would have a hard time standing for a bylaw or regulation that restricts animals on people's property what about the right to breed for the neighbors i but quality well if you if you say that anybody that lives next to a dairy
farm could say the same thing correct but we have the right to have dairy farms in this town but they need the they need the the acreage they need the acreage to be able to raise their animals the proper way and take care of them and they do have what they need especially for birds birds don't require
that much they don't require acreage most of them if you look at chickens they they require so many feet per feet and that's all the state sense they have to have [Music] so so Stacy said I mean since you've
been there yep and what I was reading over the reports and the documents that Liz sent out thank you Liz uh and it seems to be like there's this stagnant this water that gets stagnant
and just sits there you know in the summertime and that's the issue right am I right Ellie ellie and it's it's the stink in the summertime right it really is it's the stink my when my daughter was pregnant she went down there she's
like I got to leave i'm I'm gonna throw up if I don't leave because of the way the air is smelling it's it gets that bad in the summertime and you should have people living like that if all the neighbors around them are smelling the same thing and that that is in I mean it's
inconsiderate but it's not you know it's not unlawful you've had children with health issues because of it and it was determined by a doctor that's in your notes somewhere that it was causing somebody's child to get sick and a doctor enrolled it
environmentally Okay so that's an issue so those are those are some of the things that you know certainly that we can look into but again from from what I was reading in the reports it was more of that standing
water and Stacy am I right in that that is like where the the smell and the and the the the the issue is is there's is it a pond is it in a driveway i mean where is it no it's it's their pro it's their property behind them and when it
rains a lot it gets flooded and it stays it's wetland so it doesn't drain properly there was something I believe it's in the notes of trying to mitigate that but um the property owners are very
stuck on if you're going to do it I want it dry they want it dry back there just as much as we want it dry back there so then why would they we can't mitigate we can't mitigate it enough to make it dry all the time right but we could mitigate it to make it perhaps flow better um
flow better but there'll still be standing water there it was proven that's why you know they the town did I think it's all in the town did go to get something to do that the water across the street but it would never be dry back there no
matter what they do right it's wetlands i mean Dton's wetlands the whole town of Dyk's wetlands right and if they didn't have their own geese and stuff there I went by today there was wild ballad ducks and stuff like that on the property sometimes I see Canadian geese
in with their geese um there'll always be animals especially because of the river going to do whatever they want to do in that water so if this is of them not a hund of claims she's hadundred animals on her
property i have never counted I've never counted a hundred i'm just saying if she says that she is Let me finish she If she says that that that's fine i've never seen a hundred there i I go there at least once yearly and I go by there all the time i drove by there and took
pictures today because there was a lot of water because it rained yesterday she has after many times made sure her geese and stuff are coralled um she does have ornamental animals peacocks chickens and
that kind of stuff that she has back there um the last time I was there she didn't have rabbits sometimes she has rabbits does she use the birds not the ornamental birds but eggs and stuff like that for herself yes I'm sure she does
so if if the drain that the town had So the first question would be why didn't the homeowners want that drain in they said no to it they did say no and their thing
was it would still be wet so why even do it it would still be wet so why why dig up their property and everything to do it if they can't make it dry i'm not saying it's right because for me I would
have done it but that's me they had the right to say no for whatever reasons they said no um and I don't know i think we have to reapply for that i think that ran out doing that if I read it correctly but that's not my department so I don't know stacy where is that
through i I would have to I didn't have access to all the records um today um beat up everything but where would that be through i want to say concom okay had put in a plan to D i want to say okay you may ask
the highway superintendent he may know okay um because he did talk on it okay at some point and I wonder if they did do it even though it wouldn't completely dry it out would it make it better i don't think so you're still going to
have the smell you're still going to And in the summer it does dry out i mean when we have like two inches of rain like we just basically got we had some pretty heavy rain right i think it was almost 24 hours so so it was up a little more than I've seen it recently um but
during the summer it does dry out okay because we don't have as much rain i'm sure there's a smell but there's a smell on on every on every farm no matter how much you want to make sure that it doesn't right yeah sure so would
this be something along the lines i mean is this is this runoff that is really causing this or I mean or is it just sitting there it's just sitting there um I know that
um Matt is going to look into this um a further uh I don't know Matt if Matt's got any comments on that i was just gonna about to ask Matt if he'd like to um to talk about it if he's still on
cliff is on too so Matt and Cliff um could give some information without really looking into everything yet um like I said I was just advised of
this yesterday so and I know there's a very lengthy history behind all this um I think Stacy the animal control officer there has you know if if there's a issue with the number of animals then you know that falls under animal control um certainly
come summertime you know nuisance issues can be looked into um but it's a hard spot when you are next to wetlands wetlands do have odors they give off of um any drainage issues that are to be addressed have to
go through conservation um nuisance issues in general including odors and air quality is very difficult to address i've dealt with it many many many times um it's not a quick fix it has to be documented over a period of time you have to be able to pinpoint an exact
source and be 100% sure because if it goes to court which this probably would um a judge is going to immediately say how do you know for 100% certain that this is the root cause so it's something that can be looked into on a nuisance
end but it's not going to be addressed tomorrow um it it is a lengthy process so I will look into it but it's not not an overnight fix and and with with Don being a right to
farm community um you know that's that's makes things more difficult to enforce when it comes to animals so you know it's a it's certainly something I mean we don't want it to go to to court i mean for all the other reasons but besides that you know cost of doing that
and hopefully we could come to some equitable solution um you know waiting on we have to wait on like what you think Matt and I guess we could go from there um so I I mean what I'm what I'm trying
to think about is like what we could do if there's anything that could be done in the short term except you know hope that there's no rain um that would be able to help out uh Ellie and the neighbors um the property owners seem reasonable
uh I mean Tammy I don't know what your thoughts are on that point of things i definitely agree um I mean Stacy's telling us there's no violations if there was something that she wanted to see a change um she's telling them and they're
immediately um making those changes um so the thing that you know I've experienced uh in law enforcement in the past is especially investigating animal crimes um sometimes you know people's um the
way they homestead uh the way they take care of their animals isn't necessarily a way that somebody else uh would take care of their animals but if it falls within uh the law and there's no violations or there's no nothing you
know against the uh animal crime law then I mean there's really not much we can do about that um you know I'll give an example you know sometimes uh people their their idea of um shelter for an
animal would be you know a little shed kind of it's not the prettiest thing um but it's it's shelter so it may not be something that I would do for my animal i may go out and buy a brand new you know $15,000 shed for my particular
animal but you know just a little example um but as long as they're not going against um or doing anything that's against the law um it's it's so difficult um yeah and I understand um you know living near there I can
understand her frustration um but sometimes we experience things that we really can't do much about because it's not breaking anything and it's you know it's just people are are living and the way they're taking care of their animals or
the animals that they have yeah i mean I can't imagine that you know with Ellie saying like the smell is unbearable where she is for the for for them being right on the property it must be totally unbearable you know so I I I can't I don't understand why
you know something couldn't be done um one way or the other i don't know if is if it is the uh the D if it is something that the state might be able to do maybe we wait on Matt on that he's saying that it's a lengthy process but
um I understand Ellie's um frustration as well i'd want it fixed u tomorrow you know before you know the bad you know the the heat comes up and um it really starts smelling so um I don't know i don't know at this
point like what we can do stacy's saying everything is up to snuff there's no violations nothing like that you know models in a populated area cuz that's what about the laws
having that many animals in a populated area can't you do anything with the laws about that because there's a lot of people down there as officer Ferry had stated it's a right to farm community so she there's really no number but can you change the laws
requiring a certain amount of space with the population around them because of health issues also yeah very difficult it wouldn't be us who changed the town would have to vote for it right can't get it to a vote though
anybody can write their own bylaw we're very honest there's a lot of farmers in town that aren't going to let that go because they want to have their right to have their animals on their property and I mean we have dairy farms in this town that come summertime they still live next to one they smell but I knew where
I was so it happens and you you deal with it it does get like I say it doesn't get runchy in the in the summer when it gets humid i got calls from somebody on shop lots first three months I was see Yeah they call Yep and it sounds
like this particular property it's more so when it's wet with rain well I think it's more in the summer yeah than it is I mean yes there's a lot of stuff there when it rains and everything like that but I think when it dries up just like
burstagi if you're standing outside now at a certain day you can smell bristlaggy because they're not only they moving manure to do fields and stuff it's just it's hot and humid or it's humid or it's hotter than we've noticed started smelling it right that's what I'm saying so who do we have to contact to maybe offer them the drainage option
again so it sounds like it would have to be concom um because I believe because it is wetlands that's all has to be done a certain way and the pipe has to go through but they they have the right to
say no because it's their property right I think I mean what if we we we go to conservation we try to do something um you know Matt's going to Matt's going to look into this Um it
only helps not only the neighbors but it also helps the owner as well you know so if we could if we could find something and like it might maybe it might even be at a at a state level i don't I don't know um but you know Stacy saying
they're not in any violation there's there's there's nothing that she can do uh you know we can do on that end of things but if we could even maybe it's something Tam that we even like reach out to the homeowner and
um um discuss with them or Matt discusses with them and says you know hey this is what happened we want to help you with this right we're not we're not trying to put you out of business we're not trying to um make you pay a fine we're not trying to crack down on you you know your your neighbors are
complaining um you know and this would only be as good for you as well well it's got to be a health issue on their property and you know let us help you let us see what we can do to help you and then solve it for for everyone and I don't think that it's a one-sizefits-all
type of a solution it just you know like I said they're not in violation it's not a criminal um complaint you can't go to the police um but it might be something that if the water the water quality is
really bad and it is something that is causing a health problem um that maybe the state might be able to do something with i mean that's that's my kind of 10,000 foot view of of the whole thing um but I think we need to really wait
for what Matt comes back with and then we can investigate and go further ellie I'm sorry i wish we had a a solution for you like you know tonight but um it's just not that that simple i just wanted to see uh I believe that Cliff is on here cliff are you still
here i don't see him on i think he left okay he may have left i was just going to ask if he wanted to say anything um but I I do think that that's uh a good idea we'll wait for Matt to do a little more um homework on this and uh let's
maybe explore some of the options and I can I'll try to do a little research to see if there's anything else in the state that has come up that is comparable to this um I don't know if there's any there might be a public record of that and to see what that
solution might have been and I could you know perhaps even reach out to um um you know maybe another conservation committee in in another town or even the state that would have some guidance as to like what could be done because it would ser to me it's a
seriously a health concern if that water is um sitting there and it's that stagnated and u you know again I I I just don't know i don't have an answer u we don't have an answer at difficult one and I think it's
one that we just have to look into you know other options and see if we can some assistance um yeah it's it's you know like we said no violations um and we're just trying to you know
make everybody happy yeah and and I I think too it's like it's gone on for too long it needs a resolution you know and we'll just have to figure out what that path may be i don't believe changing the bylaws is is is the way to go it's not
it's not going to fly there's there's there's no way that the uh the people in the town would vote to for a change in the bylaws and that's got nothing to do with us that's that's the town um but um we will I mean we'll do what we can
Tammy right i'll look into it sure see what I can find i'll share it with everyone um get it to Liz and then Liz could get it to you Ellie and let you know like where we're at in the process but first thing I think is wait for Matt
see what he comes back with and then on my end of things I'll look into you know what other resolutions have has other towns or the state done to rectify something like this sure i I understand the frustration and I totally agree
do you have anything else for your help yeah so we'll we'll wait to see what Matt comes up with we'll we'll keep searching and maybe there's something that we can you know we can possibly come up with um to help everybody um you know it's I hope
you understand it is a difficult situation um when you know there's no there's nothing being violated um and I understand what you're saying um that sometimes it's difficult to live with the smell i do understand that so I'm not brushing that off um but you know in
order to proceed uh with doing something sometimes it's difficult not having you know when when you can say somebody is violating this particular ordinance or this particular law it's a little bit easier but when they're not violating anything it's it's a little more
difficult um but we'll see what we can come up with for sure and and we'll definitely be in touch with you um I mean I'm not the only one i have people stopping and asking "Hey how's it going with the with the border health and stuff you know?" Sure because I mean they've all got lives too and they're
busy working and stuff like that but it's kind of like I'm a spokesman now i was just going to say it sounds like they made you the spokesperson over here sure yeah ellie does that address you know some of your concerns at least you know at this
point did it address any of your concerns um I I just want to make sure that it's being it is being looked at because that amount of birds on that property for their own personal use they are not commercial and for their own personal
use who needs a hundred ducks they're a family of three well again you got to be eating duck breakfast lunch and dinner but again that's not that's not for us to say why somebody has the animals that they have they're allowed to have them because
it's a right to farm community so we can't say why do you have this many of whatever because they're allowed to have them something needs to change then because right but that remember what I said it's your other residents have rights too to live in a healthy
environment they do she has or they have the right to have the ducks that they have so we can't tell them that they can't have correct x amount of ducks but as residents around them we have a right to live in a clean and healthy environment you're absolutely in the
town you're not doing anything about that well you're not protecting us too you're protecting them that's not necessarily true no that's not true that's not true you know well we're both new to to the board of health being a
member um so we actually Vinnie wasn't even a member when you came in the first time in August and I was that that was actually I believe my first meeting it was it was my first meeting so this has been going on for like 10 years now yeah we
did the amount of situation for 10 years so like we said before you say we're not doing anything we just told you that the health agent is going to look into it we're going to look at different areas of maybe going to concom and and
actually asking again if anything could be done with drainage so we're willing to do that but and I'm willing to wait how many months you need do you need It's hard to say i wish I wish I had a crystal ball in front of me where I can give you an exact date we don't know so
I'll be back in a couple months again you can come as many times as you want we'd love to have you i will tell you I will tell you the last nuisance issue I dealt with was a lot more straightforward regarding regulations than this and it took over a year and
ended up in court and it was dismissed by the judge so it is I've said it is not a quick process and needs to be done the right way and the right way unfortunately when it comes to nuisance complaints takes a long time of documentation so it will be addressed
it's gone on for 10 years i just took over as health agent i have to start over i don't know what was done in the past but I have a process that I have to follow it will be looked into it will be addressed but it will not be done and fixed tomorrow it's simple as that
unfortunately it's the way the state regulations when it comes to nuisances are written and there's a process that has to be followed ellie I'd recommend just track everything write everything down i I understand that but we have one
people without animals have rights too just remember that too right so basically you both have rights that's right so you have rights as a resident of the town of Dy and your neighbor who owns the ducks has a right to own her animals that's right so being
fair um so like we said we're going to um continue looking into it if you want to come back in two months that's fine um we'd love to have you anytime you want to come in we have a process that we have to go by so we can't unfortunately wave the magic wand and
make everything right we wish it could be you know so perfect like that but we'll do also also Ellie in parallel to like what Matt's doing is I'm going to do some research on my end as well um and you
know you're right i mean you you you have your rights as well i wouldn't want to go out there with my grandchildren and have that smell out there and but on the other hand those people are not in violation there's there's nothing uh that we can
do in in that way to say "Hey you're in violation you need to take care of this." They're not you heard Stacy stacy's very very good um but we're going to try to do and resolve this for you um we'll we'll we'll do it as we're going to try again we're both relatively
new here on the board matt's uh new uh but he's got a a depth of experience tammy is a uh you know uh retired police officer she knows all the laws um and we're going to I'm going to do we'll do things in parallel to count up
resolution for everyone liz will be your contact point everything goes through Liz right we It's not going to be a hodgepodge of oh I have to get in touch with Matt or oh I have to get in touch with Tammy you know it's going to go everything we're going to do is we're going to feed it through Liz and then
Liz can feed and update you and you can call the board anytime that you want if you if you think that we're not responding to you in in um you know a fair amount of time and we can give you an update and we can say "Hey this is where this is at you know this is what
we're looking into this is what we discovered um you know if Matt's with his der of experience if he's saying that it's a year that's going to court and you lose so that's not really the way to do it to to me and I think Tammy's on board with me as well we
we're pretty much like-minded in the way that we think is that wouldn't it be nice to reach out to the home the to the owner of that property i mean they already know that it's an issue but we tell we're willing to help them you know the town is willing to help them so that their neighbors are happy wouldn't you
like wouldn't you like happy neighbors rather than angry neighbors and see what we can do and hopefully hopefully that they'll be reasonable say we do find something that's from the state or from a a conservation committee from the state that is like yeah we know how to
address that um then that might be the solution i'm speculating i don't know that because I haven't done any of that research yet but I but I can assure you that we will and we have Matt on it tammy's on it i'll be on it liz Liz is
your is your point of contact just contact her at any time and if you need to talk to with one of us directly she'll get us in touch with you okay thank you and Liz i hope that's I hope that's we do it without her but she she
basically holds this whole division together so thank you Liz and like I said we'd be more than happy to uh to update you and but I hope I hope that that's fair Ellie i mean that's really the best that we can do at this point in time and unfortunately I wish again like
Tammy said it perfectly wish magic wand and it's all taken care of but it's just a more complicated issue than uh than it appears on the surface and plus we want to do it the right way we don't want to rush into anything
everything has to be done in a sequence um so we're willing to take those steps okay and go from there okay thank you so much for coming Ellie thank you you're very welcome all right so do we need to make a motion on the to
Yeah because it's new discuss act okay um so I think uh Vinnie we're probably going to need a motion uh in order to take all those steps okay so I can make a a motion to address
the uh Pleasant Street um um complaint and uh um you know contact the homeowner uh as well and see if we can come to a resolution i step down and second that motion can I get a vote i I motion
passes okay uh back in the category of old business uh the town nurse status um so we just need to figure out where we are with this town nurse um we're so fortunate we have u Melissa that's here but is that something that
we want to continue to explore um I believe we said like one to two hours a week do we want to still um have that job posting available on the town's website um I don't I mean if we're doing
this if this is to me like if this is a a solution and um you know she's willing Melissa's willing I mean do we can we go forward with this or Melissa's covering what six towns so I
think I think we probably still want to have a town nurse because I think if we don't fill it it's probably going to be taken away and we'll lose that funding um so one to two hours a week uh once we find you know a
nurse who can apply and is willing to work those hours okay i mean as long as we have we have her Melissa in the as a stop gap right so right she can fill in for now as long as she's not scheduled somewhere else in one of her other
communities um okay but uh okay we if we're going to lose it then and yeah I mean sure i I would agree with I would agree with you Tam i would say yeah can I get a motion on that uh motion to pursue um uh town nurse okay I step down
and second that motion can I get a vote i I motion passes all right back on to new business um barn permit refunds um We need to figure out what we want to do
uh now that we're not going to be using the bond permits we need to figure out Liz how many people did we have that actually paid for bond permits uh I have I positive four checks and I have three downstairs that I'm just going to mail
back to the home um Liz you're going to know this better than me because I'm so new is this easy to do um to get refunds for them how is the process it's not ideal um so if these
people they don't have any other permits no I don't think so if they have a stable permit I could say "Hey I'm a stable permit for next year don't pay for it." Right um but if they have nothing else then I do I have to ask
Serena to cut them a check okay so um I mean I think it should be done because it's unfair for those four people uh thankfully it was only four people and not 24 people or 34 people um it's just going to be much easier to do um but I
mean if we're not using bond permits it's not fair that we're we're taking people's money um and you know putting it in the account and sorry um that's almost actually a crime do we
could we uh just send it to him as a matter of course with a letter saying you know um bar permits are no longer required by the by the town here's your refund check no one's going to say no to money i would Oh right i I I mean I think it's fine to do i was just asking
basically how was how the process would be to get that those funds mailed back to each uh person so I didn't know how it was you know for the town i just wanted to make sure that uh we didn't run into any problems i mean we shouldn't because we're not um you know
we didn't enact the ground permit so it's it's not fair to those folks so all right so can I get a motion to um to get that refunded to the four individuals and mailing back um Liz said she had three applications downstairs
with checks attached yep so I'd make make a motion for a barn pre barn permit permit refunds okay i step down and second that motion can I get a vote i I motion passes all right we have something very
important on this new business area and that is the signature authorization form adding Vincent Heert oh boy um so yeah it's just uh in the event that I'm not available and and payroll
needs to to be signed until um Barbara comes back right now I'm the only person um okay sometimes it's difficult with my schedule on a Monday morning um to get here because it has to be done before 10 o'clock 10 o'clock Monday morning yeah it has to be before 10 o'clock so
sometimes um my schedule doesn't allow and I'm I'm really scrambling to get here so that would be amazing um so can I get a motion on that uh motion to give me signature authorization how's that
perfect i step down i second that motion can I get a move i I motion passes you should ask Matt if you can time out on Friday or Saturday or Saturday and you can just come in and sign up okay um Matt are you still there
you may not be there oh sorry matt is there any chance that I can meet you on a Friday or a Saturday when you're done just before your shift ends so I can sign your time card just to make it a little bit easier yeah I mean I can leave it
yeah yeah I can I can figure it out between the two of us we can figure out uh you know a time and and whatnot just so I can get that signed and it might make things a little bit easier for Monday mornings because I can um time card gets uh gets the signature and gets
handed out on time so there's no delay in payment either either Friday or Saturday I can I'll just give you a call and I can catch up with you that's perfect that's fine okay any items not reasonably anticipated within 48 hours do we have anything i don't have No only only
question I'd have on the signal authorization is um Liz can you use my my stamp until I get back no not on payroll billing so could you would you just um send me a PDF and I send it back
no she wants originals so you have to be When are you coming back to Massachusetts uh I Well are you coming back well I'm coming back i'm coming i I told Tammy I might actually be coming back
sooner than we anticipated we We were going to start heading back um May 27th but um it might be sooner than that that's my It's a family issue that kind of monitoring right now um I told Tammy
and I I'll tell you Liz is like if we do It could be next week you know um I don't know at this point it's my father my father is he's almost 92 years old and he's in the hospital and Oh no we don't know where that's where that's going to go right now it's not like he's
not on his deathbed or anything but he's 92 and it's difficult yeah it's tough uh you know my I have um five other brothers and sisters so they're all pitching in and and helping out my mother's still alive
so I'll see where that goes if I come back I'll I'll let you and Tammy know right away that it's going to take me two days to come back um but unless it's something really is serious and then I'd be on a plane and and back there but
Sure um so I would count on like May 27th right now um but anything sooner than that I'll let you know all right perfect uh any public input no all right can I get a motion to adjourn oh me oh
sorry review minutes i'm sorry i'm jumping here um thank you Liz see you really hold us together uh all right so we need to approve minutes meeting minutes from 218 227 and 3:10 can I get a motion to approve those
minutes uh motion to approve minutes from 218 227 and 310 from 2025 okay I step down and second that motion can I get a vote i I motion passes all right we need to
schedule our next meeting that will be April 22nd um if Tuesday still works for Matt then we can leave it on Tuesday but Matt does that sound okay to you april 22nd um we doing four 4 o'clock 4 o'clock 4 o' Yeah it should that should
be okay okay so the next meeting is April 22nd 4 p.m perfect can I get a motion for adjournment motion to adjurnn i step down and second that motion can I get a
vote i I sorry a little tongue tied getting adjourned thank you thank you all thanks Matt