Almost ready. Ready. >> I'm ready. >> Okay. I'd like to call this meeting to order. Today is Tuesday, November 18th. It's uh 204. 204. Uh this is a remote participation Zoom meeting. It's a public meeting meeting
being recorded for cable broadcast and internet posting on YouTube. Uh so if we can all stand, we'll do the pledge of allegiance and dive right into it. Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic
for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty, justice for all. Board member introductions. Start this way. >> Christopher Isabore. >> Tammy Melo.
>> Vinnie Heert. >> All right, we'll go right into reports, announcements. Start with the health agent. >> That would be you, Liz. So this month has been a little uh busy. I went to the conference over in
Springfield for a few days. Um well I you know met a lot of people and was able to make a lot of connections. So you know I came back I had some emails. I was able to get a hold of somebody um the Title 5 company. So
that's a good thing. I've been trying to get on that list for the title five inspectors class. Um, last week I did the certified pool operator training and I successfully passed. >> Congratulations. >> I have my license for the next five years. Thank you.
>> Excellent. >> Um, but other than that, it's been busy trying to catch up. Had a few permits come in. Ashley is going to be helping me out for five hours a week. So, it'll alleviate some of the >> Ashley.
>> Ashley. >> Hi, Ashley. >> Hi. >> So, Ashley works over in the other building in the treasure collector's office. >> Oh, okay. >> So, they were nice enough to let her help her for a few hours a week. >> So, they don't have anyone to replace you yet?
>> Not yet. Nope. Soon. >> That's all I got for the healthy attendant. Thank you. Office manager is next, so I can probably So, because I've been so, you know, preoccupied doing stuff at for the health agent, the trainings and the
conferences, the office manager stuff has gotten a little bit behind, but now with Ashley here, we're going to stop hanging some stuff out. >> Excellent. Awesome. Thank you. So, do you any resumes for for applications, anything like that?
>> No. No. They haven't even posted the position. They're waiting for Nancy to leave because they want to combine the two roles. >> And that's in January. >> January. >> What did Nancy do? >> Nancy is the office manager for the building department. >> Oh. >> So, they're going to combine building
office manager and border health office manager and make it one position. >> Um, we have to wait. >> Okay. >> They can't fill the position as it is now and then two months later try to change it. Y that's >> why we have a little help. >> So at least two months.
>> Two months. >> We'll make it work. We'll make it work. >> Well, you have >> Ashley for coming over. >> Thank you. >> Right. Town nurse. Do we have the town nurse on Zoom? >> No, she wasn't able to attend. >> Okay.
>> Okay. Do you know if there was anything that she had? >> No. >> Nothing. Okay. Animal control. No animal control. >> She's not here. >> All right. So, I guess this really is going to go quickly.
>> You've done it. >> Permit approvals. We have um New England Property Services Disposal Permit, BL Clam Check, temporary food permit, and George's uh wiener wagon. That's a cute name. George's wiener wagon. Temporary
food permit. All right. So, I just need a motion to approve those permits and someone to second. >> Yeah, I make a motion to approve uh item five, a permit approvals for New England Property Services, Blount Clown Shack,
and George's Ween Wagon. >> And I need somebody to >> I second. >> Okay, thank you. And can I get a vote on these? >> I passes. All set. >> Moving on to old business. I think that
brings us to um some regulations and portable bathroom facility regulations. >> So Liz did send us um some regulations that she found. I believe that the dumpster regulation um that she sent us of us came from
Rahobath. >> Yeah. >> Raobith. >> Yep. >> So has everyone >> very simple. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> Simple is perfect. >> I think we should replicate that. >> I agree. I agree. >> So too. very straightforward. It's not an encyclopedia. It's a dumpster, right?
So, it's like, >> and I think reviewing it, it has basically everything that we were talking about. You know, the maintenance of it, >> you know, it's got to be sealed, you know, can't leak. Um, >> you know, can only be a certain size. >> Yep. >> It's fine.
>> Yep. Foot off the road. >> Commission is going to meet on Thursday and review it. >> Okay. >> And they'll give us back any feedback. Look, there is a bullet in there that says they have to abide by conservation. >> Perfect. >> If they want anything specific, I'll
edit that. >> Okay. >> So, this will remain as a draft until conservation. >> Okay. Perfect. Did we ever find out how much the permit um cost >> would cost? >> Yeah. >> No, but every other permit like the septage hauler permits, they're all 125.
>> Okay. >> So, >> keep it similar. So what charging >> I would say. Yeah. >> Yeah. You don't want >> sounds reasonable. >> 25 sounds. Do you know where we hope this charging? >> No, I didn't check into it. Take a look. >> Yeah. It'd be nice to know what the surrounding towns are in charge.
>> Yeah. Our septage hauler permits are 125. Um and they charge per the truck, but I don't think there'd be more than one garbage truck. Got it. And >> yeah, >> we don't have that many people with dumpsters. >> Oh, okay. This is just in the, you know,
future. If people really want to move towards getting a dumpster, we want to be ahead of it. >> Yeah. >> Versus trying to fix an issue. >> Even with a garbage bag increase, it's more money to have a dumpster. >> Dumpster. Oh, I see. >> But from larger families or if you have
a farm or something, it makes more sense, right? >> But for most people does make sense. It's it's more costly. >> Yeah. And it doesn't matter the size, right? It's just a flat fee of a dumpster. It's just a flat feet. >> Got it. Yeah. Um Yeah, I think that sounds reasonable. >> I think one of the things they did in
the dumpsters they in didn't they regulate regulated to like 100 like 100 square feet max or something in I think that was in the >> Yeah, that was in the Rehobit one. >> Yeah, I saw something similar to that, right? >> Yeah. >> And I mean in actuality I mean what do
we really care how how big the thing is, right? It doesn't matter. They're paying for it. It's on their property, right? Why why do we care? Right. >> Who's paying for it? Is it the company that's paying for it or the individual who has it in their property? >> The company pays the the yearly fee. >> The yearly fee. Got it. >> Yeah. Okay.
>> Just like if um system was getting pumped out. >> Got it. >> They would have that permit to be able to do business in our town. >> Right. Fair. >> Which is again reasonable. 125 for the year. >> It's not like you know. >> Yeah. That's very reasonable. >> Exor.
>> No, that's reasonable. Yeah. >> Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. So, um just glancing over the um Oh, actually before I jump ahead, I think we're going to have to table that one until we hear
back from conservation. So, I just need a motion on that before we jump over to um affordable bathroom. >> I'm learning. I'll let you do it. >> You can make your first motion. Go ahead. So it goes I make a motion um
dumpster regulations. Is that how this goes? Sorry to table this onto conservation um addresses it in their upcoming meeting. >> Perfect. And I need a second >> second. >> I I passes
table that until next time. All right. Now we can move to the portable bathroom facilities regulations. So again I think this is pretty >> I think so. >> I think it's fine. >> I think this is all we need. The only
thing I want to add is it's only required for time. If company's going to be on a period of time if it's just one person building one house I don't think we need to put a portage on in. Mhm. >> But if we're looking at somebody putting in a development like Hunter Hill,
they're going to be there for a long time, >> right? >> And that's when we should, you know, make them put a facility in for their employees. >> Right. Exactly. >> Sounds good to me. All right. So, can I
get a motion on the cordons? >> So, I'll write I'll write those up in a regulation format. Sure. And then send it out. And then it has to go to the selectman >> for approval. >> But I will send it to you three before
anything and take a look at it. Everything looks okay. >> Yeah, >> we have to sign off on it before we send it to the select. >> I'll have you sign off on it. Yeah. >> Okay, >> sounds good. Can I get a motion on that? >> Yeah. So, I make a motion um on the portable bathroom facility regulation to
vote on it >> to to approve >> to approve regulations >> to approve regulations for the portable bathroom facility. Um >> second >> I >> I >> Motion passes. >> I promise this will get better over time.
>> Oh, hey, it takes time. I still I'm still learning. You're doing great. Thank you. All right, moving on to new business. Signature authorization form for Chris. Now, this is when it's really official, Chris.
Once you put your signature on the dotted line, >> I make a motion to approve that. >> Okay, I second that. Can I get a vote? >> I motion passes. Do you need him to sign that now? Okay, we'll be able to sign
that now. of you have to sign it again. Let me change it. It needs to be signed by everybody. >> So, I still have you and Vinnie as the main signers. Okay. >> And then Chris is so sign
here too >> and the two bottom ones. Yep. >> So, you and Tammy have signed three times and Chris just signs on. Okay. We have to sign three times. You said >> you and Vinnie. Yep. >> I'm going to give Yeah, I'm going to
give this back to >> Yeah. She circles the line. Oh, the right. >> Thank you. >> So, I just sign in the bottom. You said somewhere. >> Um, should be right here. >> Okay. Awesome. >> Thank you.
>> Right here. All right. Moving on. Reorganized board members. >> Um, is this where we vote for Tammy to be chairperson? I make a motion to I would make a motion to appoint Tammy
Melo as chairperson for the board of health. >> I actually second I second it. >> Can I get a vote? >> I >> I thanks guys. >> All right, we need a clerk. I would like to make a motion to
nominate the vir. >> I can't I think I will be okay. >> That's that. >> Well, that takes care of that. So, I guess we can move on to the most important >> yes
>> topic of today's meeting. Hanniffords. Liz, you want to give us a >> um reached out to Stephen at Hanniffords yesterday. He said that their legal team is still looking at the contract. He asked for me to send him an
edible version because I think they want to make some edits to our contract. I'm not sure what those edits are. >> He can redline it. Can we send him a um >> I told him just whatever you have send
have them edit that and then send it back. >> Is it a word doc? >> It was a PDF. >> It's PDF. So if it's a word doc they could redline it and make >> I can't imagine a business asking to send some copy that's editable. They can't I've never heard of that.
>> You can make suggestions. You can make they can make suggestions not necessarily edit. >> Yeah. >> You like tone >> except in a word doc you can make it off to the sides and you can redline it and make edits. You can't edit it. >> Yeah, >> you make suggestions. That's like Chris said. >> Yeah.
>> No, the answer is no. >> I haven't gotten it back yet to see what they're trying to change. We're still getting a lot of frustrated residents cuz >> yes, I've had people contact me. >> They can't get their bags at Hanners, but all the other stores have stocked, >> right?
>> How about Johnny's Market? Have we settled with them? Johnny said he was going to be here today, but I told him we start at two. So, I didn't put him on the agenda because he wasn't sure if he was going to make it. Um, I think we put it under not items
anticipated, but he was here yesterday. He was asking if he could be a vendor again >> if he he makes a good case >> because I mean it is it is for the town, right? >> But this is his second strike. >> Well, this will be the third if he does
it again. if he does it again. If >> he does it again. >> This is Johnny's Market. >> Johnny's Market. Yeah, we've had a little bit of a hard time. Um, >> all right. Just so we don't lose um sight of what we're doing, just talking about Hannford for a second. I think we
should probably, and this is just my opinion, tell me what you think as board members. I think we should put something out to the public just so they know because I think there's been some confusion and maybe some misinformation that was um that was told to um
residents who were shopping. Um I think what I heard was it's basically the town won't give us bags to sell and that's not the case. >> I've heard also there was um friend of mine contacted me and said that's they said where's the dying? They
said we don't carry those anymore. A family member of mine have gone to Hannifford and they've been told repeatedly that the town and and Hannifford does not do business anymore and they don't anticipate doing business moving forward. >> Okay. So, there's been a lot of
>> which is something that I saw on some Facebook pages too as well. So, >> yeah. >> So, maybe if we put something out on um >> social media to our residents just so they know what's going on >> if >> it's not that we don't want to give them
the bags. Well, we have to protect the town as well as far as we can't just give products out and then, you know, a year down the road we're now back up to $72,000 and, you know, and it's like pulling teeth to get paid for products
>> and we're giving them better terms than anyone else because everyone else's pay >> upon correct delivery, but we're offering them 15-day terms, >> which is reasonable, >> right? Which is reasonable is is more than reasonable, >> right? You know, it just it just makes
me wonder what other companies do with Hannifers when they give them products >> because I'm sure other companies don't, >> you know, aren't so graceful about, oh yeah, we'll give you 15 days now. >> You know, usually it will vary. It depends on volume, things like that. You
know, some might be pay on delivery, some might be 30 days, some might be 60. >> What What is Hannifford asking for? If we're doing a 15-day, that's what we're asking. What at what would they be willing to sign up on? >> Well, we're not sure yet because we're still waiting to hear back. So, we sent
them our contract >> uh that we worked very hard on >> and now they want to edit what we have. >> So, we're not really sure at, you know, what point we're getting to. >> And the problem is we're not getting checks. Probably every 45 days is the
best we're getting a check. >> Interesting. >> They're ordering, you know, 5 to 7,000 a week. So if you go 6 weeks without a payment, we're looking at >> easily >> the cost. >> Yeah. We were 72,000
in the whole payments that some of the payments I had made since 2023 or 2022. >> Liz had to spend a whole bunch of her time. >> Mhm. >> Tracking everything down and going after them. >> That was definitely difficult. >> Yeah. It's not what she's paid to do, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So we're trying to get them. Every
other vendor agreed to pay upon delivery. So everybody's cood except for them. The town understood that they can't do it because you know headquarters isn't in Taton. So they agreed to giving them a net 15 term and they have not agreed to that contract
yet. >> Interesting. >> So I'm curious to see as what they what edits they make to our contract. >> Yeah, they they can't edit the contract. They can redline the contract. If they're lawyers, they ought to know that. Um and then what and then what we're going
to do >> for the public to say >> I think we should just so people are aware of what's going on because >> yeah I mean we >> it's important for that transparency >> we have to word it correctly though we should say something like you know
there's been a lot of misunderstanding in the town about something along the lines of there's been a lot of misunderstanding in the in the town about um the trash bags at Hannerford's. It is not true that Hanniffords is no longer carrying them. It is not true that Hanniffords is not We don't even
have to say that. We say there's been a lot of misunderstanding in the town. We are working with Hanniffords to work out a contract so that they can carry the trash bags again over and out and done. >> We don't have to go into detail with those. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Because it's just muddies the waters, right? Just >> Right.
>> That's the truth, right? >> Right. >> I mean, it wasn't us or it wasn't anything else. It was they weren't paying. >> Right. >> Period. I think it's very important that we say something to the town like people should know that we're actively working on it. Not necessarily that this is not an outlet moving forward,
>> right? >> Something sweet, to the point, and >> all right, I'll put something together and then just email it and then just reply to it separately. >> Okay. >> I mean, I don't know if we should should we mail it out to the town or just post it.
>> Probably post it. I think >> post it on the website. Yeah, >> that's probably we don't want to spend money doing that. >> I would also I'm a huge Facebook person and I think many other people in the town are too because >> Chris said I see a lot of things on
different town pages >> about complaints about hands and bags. It's always nice to just put it on social media. >> Yeah, that's where >> that's where it comes from, right? I mean, you could go >> that's where people usually go and you know a lot of people spend time. It's
convenient, but you can go to you can go to right now you can still go to Johnny's Market. You can go to Route 44 Liquors. >> You know, if there's other places in town that you can go to and come here, right? >> Yeah. Even that post can have suggestions somewhere else to go in the interim, right? >> Yeah, that's a good idea. >> You can say these are the other
locations where you can get the town back, why we get this rectified. >> You could also post a notice on the town, too. I don't I mean, I'm sure the older folks go there or anyone who goes there. All right. Yeah. >> All right. So, I just need a motion on
that one. So, um we will just to recap, we'll have Liz come up with something so we can post on the account page, social media accounts. >> Mhm. Okay. I'd make a motion to u um post a notice to the town on the
Hannerford account, the updates so that the town is is clear on where we stand right now. >> Second. >> Can I get a vote? I >> I >> I passes. >> Okay, moving on to eight items not reasonably anticipated within 48 hours.
Does anyone have anything? I don't. >> Oh, yes. Sorry. >> I don't know how selling the bags at a higher rate. I did have somebody come in today and she asked if he was selling them. And I said, "No, because he was
selling them for more." And she's like, "Yeah, I know." So, some residents knew. They just didn't come in and tell us. I don't know how long he was doing it for. >> Well, I went there just to on a field trip and I didn't see the notice on the door and I asked how
much they were and whoever the person was, he gave me the right numbers. So, that was fine. But, um, we need a clear explanation before we go forward. I mean, this It's almost criminal, right, when you think about it.
>> Sorry. Can someone bring me up to speed on what's happening? >> Sure. So, uh, this particular um marketplace was selling our bags, but put an increase in the price. So, he was making more money off of it >> without notifying anyone else because you're not supposed to do that.
>> You're not supposed to. This is the price. XYZ is the price. Um, so he was selling it for more. We're not really sure how long he was doing it for. So, we already gave him a warning. Um, and then he did it again the second time.
So, we want him to come in in front of the board to tell us >> what was going on >> in order to give him the blessing on selling it again if we decide to do that. >> Got it. >> So, that >> he's currently not selling. >> He's currently not selling. So, if he does violate that again, that will be
his third time. >> Interesting. Okay. >> So, >> the first time he didn't give an excuse. The second time he said he got a new POS system, point of sale system, and a lot of his merchandise got uploaded at the wrong price. >> Okay.
>> He did have the smalls in there correctly. So the smalls he was selling for 14. >> No, I thought it was the other way. The smalls he was selling for 18 and the the large he was selling for the correct amount. Yeah, >> one was right and one was >> Yeah, the smalls he was selling. I'm pretty sure it was the He was selling
the smalls for 18, >> but he said it was the system that did it. It wasn't him. >> It's one of those things, you know. >> So, that's where we need it. We need >> a clear-cut explanation. >> Yeah. >> Because, you know, you
>> we just can't continue that. You can't keep >> he has to come in and explain it to us better get a sense of why this is happening and we shouldn't police it. It's not our job to go around and >> that's the other thing. It's like somebody's going to have to go around to see these >> if it's actually doing it correctly.
>> So it's it's not going to be just let him sell it and be done. >> Yeah. >> We're going to have to follow up on them and >> that's very unfortunate. >> Yeah. It's foolish. >> It is foolish. A couple bucks. $4.
>> Really? Yeah. Sell another six-ack. >> You want to table it and see if it comes in the next meeting? >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. Okay. Why don't we do that? >> Yep. I make a motion to table the um Johnny's market discussion until we meet with the owner. I
>> second. I get a vote. I >> I passes input. We don't have anybody here. Um 10. Approve meeting minutes from October 21st, 2025, our regular meeting.
If I can get a motion to approve those minutes. >> I make a motion to approve uh the regular meeting on 1021 2025. >> Second. >> Can I get a vote? >> I I >> I motion passes.
Looks like our next scheduled meeting is just before Christmas. Gosh, these months are just flying by. December 16th. 2 o'clock. Okay. For everybody, >> two o'clock on a Tuesday. Sounds amazing. Good. >> All right. 2 o'clock December the 16th,
2025. I just need somebody to make a motion to adjourn today's meeting. Unless anybody has anything else that we've missed. >> I make a motion to adjourn the meeting. >> I second.
>> I passes. Meeting adjourned. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. >> Happy Thanksgiving. >> And we'll see everyone on December 16th.