for discussion the extent permitted by law. Uh so could I have a call order? >> All right. And Mark Pico present. So let's stand for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Uh we are going to go into executive session. Uh would anyone care to make that motion? >> I'll make that motion to go into
executive session. >> Second the motion. >> I believe we need to list the um all of the all the reasons. >> Yep. uh go into executive session for under Massachusetts GLC 30 uh 30A section 21A2 to conduct strategy
sessions in preparation for negotiations with non-UN personnel or to conduct collective bargaining sessions or contract negotiations with non-un personnel. This is for non-union contract negotiations with the building commissioner under mass general law
chapter 38 sections 2183 to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining or litigation if an open meeting may have a detrimental effect on the of the bargaining or litigation position of the public body in the chair so declares this is a diet and town
clerical library and council on aging MOU under Massachusetts general laws chapter 3A sections 21 A6 to discuss the purchase exchange lease or value of real estate. If the chair declares that an open meeting may have a detrimental
effect on the negotiation position negotiating position of the public property tax title payment agreement under mass general law chapter 38 sections 21A7 to comply with or act under the authority of any general or special law or federal grant and aid
requirements approve and then there's going to be the approval of the board of selections executive session meeting minutes for April 8th 2026. >> All right, very good. We have a motion. Is there a second? >> Second. >> All right. And on the roll call, >> Peter Karen I. >> One cabbage. I
>> And Mark Chico I. All right. We're in executive session. >> All righty. So, we are returning from executive session. It's 603 and we're going to get right into our uh public hearing. So, we have a public hearing
for Mass Electric Company doing business as National Grid Verizon New England petition for poll hearing and I will entertain a motion to open the public hearing. >> We'll make that motion. >> All right, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> I will second. >> All righty. Motion a second. All in
favor? I >> I All righty. Is there anyone here for the poll hearing? Yes. Uh, this is Aaron from National Grid. >> Awesome. All right, the floor is yours. >> All right, good evening. Uh, my name is Aaron Roy, uh, representing National
Grid, 1250 Braen Point Road, uh, in Somerset. Uh, tonight, National Grid's requesting, um, a new midspan, uh, pole between existing pole uh, 54 and 55 Main Street. Um this pole will allow us to
put um some feeder what we call feeder monitors on them. Um uh they do everything from tell us the current voltage um any faults uh so on and so forth. And um we're we're asking for this location because it's uh very close
to the the very beginning of the substation. Um that gives us uh the most details and and uh the best um the best spot for this uh for this device. So >> any questions or comments from the board? >> No, I heard everything the last one that
I I needed to hear from. >> Awesome. >> And every all the abiders were properly notified. >> Yes. >> Uh to my knowledge, yes, they were. >> Okay. And we also have um in in the uh in the file note from uh from highway
superintendent Tomerry the location it fits the area and there should be no visible issues. >> All right. Any um correspondence on this? Any any letters or anything from any anyone here in the audience for the
poll hearing? Anyone on Zoom? Okay. Any motions for uh to move this forward? uh through the chair. >> Happy to close the meeting. >> All right. I'll entertain a motion to close the public hearing. >> Make that motion.
>> All right. We have a motion. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> Okay. Any motions on this? >> I make motion to approve. >> All right. We have a motion to approve. Is there a second? >> I'll second the motion. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> All right. Motion carries. Thank you.
>> Thank you very much. All right. All right. Uh, next we have a a public hearing for a class 2 motor vehicle license. Uh, Stephen Remy of Rey's Auto Sales doing business as Remy's Auto LLC
2387 Winthrop Street. Do we have a motion to open the um, public hearing? >> I make that motion. >> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> Um, members of chair, we received
correspondence from Mr. Rey's attorney uh requesting a continuence of the June 10th uh border select. >> Okay. >> Uh just have to square some stuff away. >> Is there anyone here for that public
hearing >> through the chair? Um because the applicant isn't here, we cannot take any public uh public testimony who is here. >> Okay. >> All right. >> All right. Make the motion to continue. >> All right. We have a motion to continue.
Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> Motion carries. >> June 10th. We'll see you then. >> June 10th. >> Yep. The the applicant isn't here, unfortunately. So,
all right. The 6:15 public hearing. Do we have to wait for that? >> Yeah, we have to wait 65. >> Um, all right. I'll entertain a motion to take Mark out of order.
>> Um, I'll make that motion. >> All right. We have a motion. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? All right. >> All right, Mark. Love to have you up here. >> Thanks. I bet you thought she was delegator submitted the uh memo in there. I think
that catch pretty much everything. I had a retirement through attrition. Um with a grant funded parttime position, it's a non-unit position. The grant funds are there. The trustees approved the job description. I met with HR and the town administrator um to approve the
job as well. I understand there's a process for hiring. I just want to make sure all my tees are crossed, all my eyes are dotted before I move forward uh with posing the position. >> Awesome. Any any discussion on that?
>> Questions? What's the anticipated start date? >> Um I would like to start let's see we'll post a couple weeks. I'd like to start before July 1st. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Perfect. So, it's after the town meeting. So, >> yes. >> We already know the budget will like
Right. Right. >> And do you have to get any confirmation from the the grant that um this is approved or allows? >> No, not uh it's it's unrestricted. Um it's used for whatever library trustees library director discretion. Um it's
part of what comes with being a master certified library. It's the easiest grant you'll ever ever apply. Usually when you apply for a grant, you apply and say, "Oh man, I hope I get it." With this grant, as long as you're certified. Um it's not I hope we get it, it's how much will we get? Um and so there there
there's enough to cover the funds for this particular position. I know it's risky covering a position with grant funds, but like I said, with with certification, I'm confident as soon as mind will be enough coming in to cover the position to keep it going. um which is why I felt comfortable enough putting
it in the grant funded. >> The only thing that I noticed um question for you is I I didn't see it's I think 18 hours a week or 19 and I didn't see it say nonbenefit after that and I think in some other part-time job
descriptions I've seen where it kind of clarifies that there it's not eligible for benefits. So I didn't know what to draw this on. Just adding that nonbenefited after the hours. >> It is 19 hours. >> 19 hours. >> Can I can I add one thing?
>> The reason we just set up 19 hours was specifically to make it a non benefited position. >> Right. >> So that was the 19 was decided for that specific reason and you know. >> Awesome. >> Yeah. >> That way the applicants know when they have a fair notice when they're deciding if they want to apply. Is that
>> Yeah, we could. uh amend the job description falls under the um the purview of the board of libraries trustee. So this evening um we could we could easily make that amendment in the job description and then um put on the
posting. So uh we're seeking the library director is seeking sort of approval for the posting and then uh you know we had discussion and we u the request is uh to do an internal posting
first see you know to see what happens there >> for a period of time we were in a hiring freeze has that been lifted is that is that hiring freeze >> well effect as
uh through I think this was this was part of the uh director's budget presentation >> because we because we our position is going unfunded >> right >> so
you know if u I know if we were to have a hiring freeze hiring freeze we would look at positions that are already existing not hiring new not hiring for new positions but this is uh the existing position is unfunded Uh this is part of you know part of her grant and
part of the of the uh director's budget >> fully grant funded not coming out of the municipal appropriation. >> Awesome. >> Yeah. And again to keep to keep the certification so he can continue to get those those grants. >> Nice. Any other any discussion? If not,
I'll entertain a motion. >> Can I assume we hopefully like renew this with additional grant money in the next year? >> Oh, yes. Yep. Absolutely. Yep. Yep. Yep. And again, the 1900 was budgeted specifically for the benefits, but it also carries the additional benefit of
coming in under what the grant has conveyed the last couple years. So, I'm not spending more than what I'm taking in. Yeah. That that way the grant fund remains sol. So, yeah. Yeah. >> I'll make a motion to approve. >> All right. We have a motion. Is there a
second? >> I'll second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. >> I. Motion carries. Thank you. Thanks for your creativity as usual. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks very much. >> We appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> All right. So, it is we got two more
minutes before we can have our next public hearing. Um the announcements. >> Announcements. Okay. I will um entertain a motion for to take announcements out of order. >> I'll make that motion. >> All right. We have a motion. Is there a second? Second.
>> Any discussion? All in favor? I announcements. Uh Dyon Historical Society invites you to their annual plant sale on Saturday, May 16, 2026 from 9:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. at the Dyton Historical Society, 12:17 William
Street, Dyon, Rain or Shine. Next announcement. The Dton's Dyon Lions Club Food Bank will be held on Saturday, May 16th, 2026, located at the town hall, 979 Somerset
Avenue, lower level. Good job. >> The chair, I have one more announcement to we had a a a late uh sort of a late announcement in and this is also a point of pride for the town of Tyon uh 2026
Memorial Day ceremony. Um it will be held Monday, May 25th, 2026 at 10:00 a.m. Uh the Dying Memorial Day ceremony will take place at Veterans Memorial Park right here at 1111
Somerset Avenue. Please join us to honor the men and women who served our country. For more information, please contact the Veterans Department. Ceremony will be held. Awesome.
Hope to see you there. All righty. >> Okay. So, uh, next we have a public hearing >> for a new on premise all alcohol license for Paul Boris Upcycle Edibles LLC doing
business as Alice's last stop. Could I have a motion to open the public hearing? >> Motion to open. >> Is there a second? >> I second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I motion carries. Is anyone here to discuss that? All right. You have the
floor. I'm Paul Boris. >> Take it over to Brian. You may have questions for me. >> You want to give us kind of an overview on what you're looking to do and accomplish? >> Sure. So, um, in the in the outset, the
goal is really to preserve the legacy of what Alice has been, um, since Ryan's had it and before. Um, but with the investment over time to have the opportunity to maybe change the seating around and maybe put 10 or 15 seats to
the bar area space in as well and expand the hours a little bit Thursday, Friday, Saturday nights to offer a dinner seating. This is the long-term goal. >> Any questions from them? >> No. >> Questions?
uh you want to try to keep much of the same menu. So >> yeah, I think in the in the very beginning the intention would be really not to rock the boat. I mean it's a busy restaurant. I don't really want changes. Um and over time really get to know the clientele and see what people are
looking for evolve and I think probably the first place we would do that is expanding some of that service hours a little bit. So, this is a um this is a new license and it's
allows you to serve any type of alcohol, correct? >> And you'll also have expanded hours you kind of just said as well. So, >> okay. Um well, Alice has been such a fixture of Dyon and I think it's great that um you're interested in in um
making this work and I I have no issues with it. Uh is there anyone from the public here to speak on this? All right. If you want to come come on up. >> Sure. >> You can have a seat if we have any other questions. >> I just have a quick couple questions. >> My name is John King. I live down a
couple of houses down avenue. Is there going to be entertainment? >> No. >> Not at all. >> Nope. You have no plans. Put like a like out in the back like most places. Okay. No. Answer my question. >> Awesome. Very good. Anyone else here? All right. Um I'll entertain a motion to
close the public hearing. motion. >> Is there a second? >> I will second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I >> I motion carries. Any motions on the >> I'll make a motion to approve the allo license. >> Okay. Is there a second? >> I'll second.
>> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. Congratulations. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. Next, we have Bill Rooney here to discuss the day rehob school district budget. Good evening. Thank you for having me.
Um, I appreciate the opportunity to be here tonight. I just wanted to uh briefly provide an update since the last time I appeared before the board of selectmen and the finance committee which was virtually on March the 10th and that was regarding the FY27 budget
for the Dagger Hobbit Regional School District. Um over the past couple of weeks I've been grateful to have productive conversations with town officials regarding budget expectations and assessment targets. Uh quite honestly, it became clear to me during
that March 10th meeting that there were some disconnects in communication regarding what I understood the town's desired target to be. My understanding in prior conversations had been that the district should make every reasonable effort to approach 3% whilst the
discussion at the March 10th meeting focused more heavily on a 2.5% expectation. Since that time, I've continued working diligently to identify additional efficiencies and opportunities to reduce the burden on both of our towns while still preserving the educational
programming and student opportunities we're trying to build through our driving toward 2030 strategic plan. One significant development was the district receiving a $ 1.5 million uh career and technical education expansion grant. And while the majority of those funds are
designated for facility modifications, equipment, and program startup costs, the grant also included approximately $176,000 in FY27 salary offsets tied to those new programs. I also want to emphasize that
these new Chapter 74 programs are not simply additional expenses without long-term value. Approved Chapter 74 programs generate approximately $5,600 more per student in state reimbursement for our district. And as our enrollment
continues to rebound, expanding indist opportunities help both attract and retain students who might otherwise leave for Bristol Plymouth or Bristol Aggie. Over time, that not only increases district revenue, but can also help reduce the tu tuition and
transportation cost paid by our towns for vocational schools. For instance, the town of Dayton, uh my research indicates that the student charges for BP and BA totaled $2.7 million last year. Last evening, I'm very pleased to share
that our school committee recognized the importance of applying those grant funds directly to reduce the FY27 budget. As a result, Nightton's assessment increase was reduced from 3.15% to approximately 2.59%,
representing a reduction of roughly 77 $75,500. I believe this reflects a good faith effort by the district to respond to the town's concerns while continuing to move the district forward. Tonight, I am hopeful for your support as we move
towards town meeting. After several challenging budget cycles, I think it's important for us to avoid the uncertainty and instability that would come with operating under a 112th budget during the summer months. Stability certainly matters, especially for our students, staff, families, and both
communities. I am very sensitive to the concerns, but as I have stated over and over, we should be fighting with the state, not with each other. and I appreciate your time and happy to try to answer any questions you might have. >> Awesome. Thank you. Any any comments?
>> Well, thank you >> for uh it it was a tough meeting that March 10th and um sorry that it ended up end the way it did. Uh, but obviously you had to to leave as well and um but I
think the 2.59% shows um how much you guys care about the town finances in the in the boat that we're in and I appreciate the hard work that you did. >> Thank you. >> Comments. >> Um
as you know I was very recently elected. This is in fact only my second second meeting. Congrats. >> Thank you. Thank you. Um much of what I had to say during my campaign and so forth was really about finances and keeping uh taxes uh as low
as possible, >> right? >> And uh keeping costs down. So I I I I have to ask given how close we are to the 2.5, what would it take to get from 2.59 to 2.5? probably
20,000 or so because I believe I believe when I presented at the March 10th meeting I was under the impression I was striving for 3% and I came in at 3.15 and I believe that represented a
difference of around 21,000 or so. But what I can do is I can compute that to the penny and um email it to you tomorrow if that helps. Is there do you think there's a way we could get there? And honestly, my my
reason for asking is I I want to try to hold all departments to 2.5 and by not doing so many departments would be taking money from those that that uh are essentially meeting 2.5. >> Yeah. um that that decision is
ultimately the school committees. Um but I'm I'm certainly just like we were continuing to look and and um we're waiting hopefully with baited breath on a CTE grant which we did get. Um you know if if we continue to look for
efficiencies and we find something that I'm more than happy to present that to the school committee. Uh the other thing that I would just say um just for some context for those that have kind of been here through my tenure um we went through some very significant attrition
for a couple of years with cutting nearly 30 positions. So um we're still playing catchup. So I'm I'm I'm proud of the 2.59. I understand where you're coming from and trying to have a baseline for everybody to get to 2.5. But there's a there's that historical
context that I'm looking at as well. >> Can I ask what the percentage uh increase was from last year for last year's budget? >> Um I could look it up, but I don't I don't I know that I know that these percentages um that the school committee
approved last night are the lowest in my tenure. Um I want to say districtwide last year might have been 3.8. um town was probably low 3s maybe. Um so this this will be the even if it sits at
2.59 it would be the lowest that I've assessment that I've proposed to the town in in my tenure. >> So traditionally it's been well above the 2.5. >> Correct. Yeah. >> Um I just want to thank you for always uh keeping the board selected in the
loop and of course our taxpayers and the town and um looking at alternative methods of funding. You know, this is grant money that we're bringing into our district and it's benefiting our town. the last time you met with us.
>> Correct me if I'm wrong. I I believe we only had 30,000 or so uh Rob in excess levy. >> Yeah. >> And now you're bringing in an additional 75,000. So you're giving our town and our residents some wiggle room for the
future, you know, with any of our our needs. So I just I want to thank you for presenting to us, keeping us in the loop, and always looking for grants. You've done some amazing things in the district with all the grant money that you brought in. So, >> thank you very much. >> Appreciate it. Appreciate it.
>> Awesome. Thank you. >> You too. >> Okay. So, next we have a joint meeting with the finance committee. >> Hi guys. >> Would you guys like to open your meeting?
>> Motion to open the May 13, 2026 committee meeting. >> Second. All in favor? I >> We could just keep an eye. Tom is supposed to call in once he lands.
>> Um, we don't need to do the pledge since you guys, I'm sure, have already done it. >> That's it. >> So, we'll jump right into it. So, I was able to watch the recording on the meeting that I missed uh while I was away. Um I think from what I'm my
understanding, the primary point of contention is the funding articles around uh the highway department and the police, right? Because we don't have enough money to go >> around through the finance chair. First up on the agenda for finance committee is the reserve fund transfer.
>> Okay. actually had that second. >> Yeah, >> my unless nervous. Do you want to speak to that or we're good? If anybody has any questions, she's here on the first request for
23,000 for the England. Everybody's had a chance to read that everybody. So, the 24,000 is to repair AMU 2, which had a catastrophic failure of the high-pressure fuel pump. Um it shot uh
fine metal grinders throughout the engine. So the engine had to be torn down. The whole fuel system had to be ripped apart um flushed and all the fuel lines, fuel, everything had to be replaced. >> This request from precash or was it >> from the reserve fund? Are we not able
to pay with the ambulance fund? >> Not without town meeting. >> No town meeting. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah, that was my main question. Do you have um I know it seems to be it was unforeseen. Is there any indication after you got the work done that there's
other things that are going to be done? Okay. >> Should actually be finished tomorrow. >> Who did the work? Chief Bulldog fire apparatus and we get any kind of warranty >> with their work. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's on
>> the one I just handed to Peter. I should have >> All right, I'll give it to Ron to read. I think it means 36,000 16. Yeah. Any questions? >> Question. >> Take a motion.
>> Take a motion to approve the transfer reserve fund in the amount of $23,000 for the ambulance repair equipment for maintenance. >> Second. All in favor? >> I I >> I opposed. guys have it.
>> Second request. >> Um I ran out of money to attend the conferences. I wasn't planning on attending March and then they needed teachers so I ended up attending. So that didn't leave um any funds left for the June conference.
So I was hoping that the town could fund my attendance at the June conference. I looked at the speakers and they do have good speakers and relevant situations to what's happening in the town. So, I didn't feel that um you know, I wanted to be there to see what the state had to
say and um guidance on some items that are coming up. >> Any questions on that? So that 15 1546 after would leave after a transfer here. Motion
>> take a motion to approve the request the amount of $1,000 for professional de uh development services. >> Second. >> All in favor? I >> thank you. >> All right. So, um, Ralph, do you want to take take the lead
on this? >> Sure. I I guess Jake started and I rudely interrupted. Uh, so so we're looking at Warren AR the
change. uh you know we have a we have a new uh a new number for the uh for the school assessment but I think the first uh first and foremost there were four um four articles in the warrant uh addressing capital
uh two uh two were two were for a truck each for the highway department and the finance committee agreed to fund the cash. The second one, there was no recommendation to do anything. Then uh
and then the final two articles had to do with uh administrative vehicles uh for the police department uh administrative vehicle each. We don't have enough money in cash to to fund fund that. So, uh, the board of selecting and the finance committee
requested the, uh, the chief come in to see, uh, can we do some creative financing, releasing or anything of that nature to see if we could, uh, move that forward. So, we have both the chief and
the deputy chief here who did some uh, we did some homework on it and move uh, we present that to both. Before we get into that discussion, we is everyone on the same page that we are I I believe we already discussed this.
We're gonna fund the plow truck. So, article um 16 on free cash. >> One of them, correct? >> The other one. >> So, we're all on the same page on that. So, we're really just here >> just to meet on the police, >> correct?
>> Okay. Are are you guys available to uh give us a tell us what you found? Good evening everybody. So after the last meeting um we had myself and deputy chief bridges met with
member of the uh fincom and cabbage um met in my office went through all the uh inventory of the department um answered all their questions provided inventory uh sheets on mileage and um as well as an updated list we have tonight um I
think that was already provided right the updated list with mileages idle times and whatnot and um We were told to explore the options of doing a lease program. Um, lease programs were brought up years back when it was uh presented for
or talked about getting the cars and it was rejected that they didn't want to go want to go down that road. So, it came up again. So, I was like, "Oh, great." You know, um, the deputy chief, I won't speak. Uh he's been doing vehicle uh fleet maintenance in our department since uh Chief McDonald's
been around when uh Sergeant Ducha retired. He pretty much asked Ryan to take it over and he's been volunte. He's done an outstanding job with it and uh he takes pride in what he does. So I'm going to let him speak on that behalf tonight because that's where I think a
lot of the questions might be asked. I gave everybody a a kind of pamphlet of what we have for for cars and what what mileage is. And then there would be the next column is total hours. Those hours that the car's running the total hours
and then on the average a car 1 hour of idle time equals I went I went with an average because goes from 25 to 30 and Chevy does 33 to 34 miles for an hour. So I went with 30 miles. So that's the total miles on the vehicles under the
hours. So if you look, we we we have a 2026 that we just got in uh March. It's got 1900 miles on it. 241 miles, so it's equivalent to 7,000 miles already on that car. We've only had it since March.
Um and a couple of the other cars, I know if you look at the two, they're kind of like an orange color. Those are hybrids. So the model's going to be cut in half cuz half the time the motor is running, half the time it's not. So, those are those look a little low in case you're looking at that car. Um, the
what our plan was was we could trade in the 2019 Taurus, which is equivalent to 140,000 miles, and the Nissan Rogue, which is almost at 100,000 miles. That did have an hour meter on it, so I wasn't able to see how many hours were on it. Um, we trade those two in, which
would bring the lease down there. Right now the quotes about 3500 each vehicle they would give us as a trade in. Um I can talk to them and maybe negotiate something a little better. Um so that would bring it down. 3500 we would move
cruiser 580 which is the hybrid currently being used as as an administrative vehicle up to the detective's car that still has a lot of life in it if you look at the mileage. Um and then I got the quote from Ford for the financing. So now it says I know
it says 2027 Ford Explorer and it comes to 121. Um that number is not right cuz Ford has not released the 2027 pricing yet. So this is the 2026 pricing which there could be something left over on the lot but currently I was shooting for
the 2027 pricing just to get you know a number. But she came she gave me that number that includes the build out from it. That includes the police lights, the radios, the whole package that we would get. They would do $545 underwriting fee and we could go with either three or
five years on the lease. Three years be 439339. Five years would be the 284853. That's for two vehicles. At the end of the lease term, we have we have the option to buy the lease out or turn it in. we can buy it out for a dollar. So,
we get that cruiser for a dollar at the end. There's no prepayment penalties. That would be the sheet after kind of goes down the whole the whole lease stuff, the municipal financing. Uh when we do sign the lease with Ford or do you know apply for the credit and do the lease with Ford, they send us the title
and they're just the first lean holder. So, we have the title in hand. We make the make the 305 payments. Now, at the end, you can either you can either buy it out for a buck or we could go into a residual buyout and that'd be turn it in and they put the money towards it. Um,
but a lot of these a lot of our Fords and Chevys, they're just not they're not holding up to what they used to be. I have a 2024 Tahoe in there and they still in the shop right now. Uh they already had the
motor the bottom half the motor rebuilt um due to Chevy knowing the issue. If that car idles too long, it leaks oil. Um so they rebuilt the bottom half of the motor. It went back and it's been there since cuz it's on back order. Had a a water pump leak already and now it
needs a radiator. And that car is a 2024. If you look at the odometer, it's got 37,000 miles. So everything up to the radiator was covered under warranty, but because we drove it off the lot, it went 368,000 miles. 36,800 miles. Now
it's out of warranty. So we have to pay the radiator, but it's equivalent to having 159,000 already in 2024 just by the mileage. And that's the low side. Chevy came in at 175,000 idle time when he sent me the service in place. >> What's the detector drive now?
>> Uh Nissan Ro20 2019 Nissan Ro. What will happen with that vehicle? >> That'll be traded in. >> That's That's when it's going to get traded in. >> Yeah. >> So, it's kind of like shuffling cars around. And if this lease program works out, we could do cruisers moving forward. Do the lease the lease program
with the cruisers and buy them up for a dollar. Um, a lot of it's idle hours. It's it's driving around town. It's doing traffic in certain places. It's, you know, on the side of the road, you know, monitoring traffic. It's it's crazy. We we've been with the department working with the guys, you know, shut
off the car when you can. The problem is is we can't stop on the side of the road, mounted traffic with the car off because the radio's connected to the car. The computer shuts down after so long once the battery voltage reached a certain rate. And then just the maintenance on the cars is just it's starting to get starting to get a lot.
We have a 20 cruiser 579. Uh that was our Friday car that's already had almost a complete motor put in it, almost a complete transmission put in it. Um that that car and then just moving forward with the Fords has just been transmission problems being rebuilt.
That's obviously mileage and just the driving. It's not made like it used to. >> It's the issue that we're going with all SUVs and not cars. >> Uh they don't the cars are Ford makes like it's almost like a Mustang kind of car. Um, it's a hybrid thing. I I trying
to stay away from hybrid. So, we don't we don't have a we don't really have a certified guy to work on it. Um, and it's just it's really expensive. Batteries get really expensive. Run into electrical issues. So, I'm trying to stay away from it. But, we do have two of them. So, what happens when all this
work needs to be done? Do we have a warranty on the cars? You know, an extended warranty to cover parts of the cost or is this just straight out of pocket cost? Uh, luckily I got all the cars in for the transmission rebuilt before the warranty ran out, before the the powertrain warranty ran out. Um, the
motor was covered by Ford. Ford did it. It was a $13,000 job. They covered that part. Um, a lot of the normal stuff, wear and tear, um, some of the maintenance is is on us. >> Okay. So, I guess my my my question around that is if if a
lot of this stuff is dinging you, you know, after after the powertrain warranties are run out and things like that, what have you guys ever looked at what or is there for this type of vehicle like there are for a normal vehicle where like, oh, you can pay, you know, 25 bucks a month or whatever it
is, you get an extended warranty that could potentially since you guys utilize them so much more than a normal person utilizes their vehicle, that would cover some of these repair costs. cost so that you guys aren't getting hit >> with style powertrain. >> We've never looked into like extending the warranty.
>> So, I don't I couldn't give you a price on how much that would be. >> Yeah. I'm just I'm just curious. I literally I don't know like obviously they do for like a person's car, right? But since this is a completely different animal of a vehicle situation, would they have something? >> There's a lot of things that wouldn't cover us too because of the nature of
those what the car is doing. I feel like it would have to be a specific type of >> a lot of like fine print and those warranties that be able to cover certain things. So would the would the town really be gained from something like that? >> Right. And that's that I'm just you know I'm I'm asking and because you know the
other question that I have is have you ever looked into a fully electric because there is no motor, there is no transmission, there is no oil leaks, there is no nothing like that. And yes, you'd have to have a charging station, >> but since you guys are doing a lot of idle hours, it's irrelevantly better.
>> Yeah. So, it's it's more that the battery deteriorates over time on those. So, then we're going to end up in kind of like in almost in the same spot. >> But if you're only keeping vehicles for two or three years, >> well, we have we have 2016s, we have 2017s. We >> Yeah. Yeah. No. So we build them up and
then we push them down to the detail cars which does that >> but also you wouldn't have to have fuel costs which we know are >> we we've never visited it but a lot of departments are staying away from it for some reason. I mean we've never gone down that road >> fuel line always maintained we've always maintained our fuel line. We've never
gone into the red in our fuel line like we >> Oh, no. I know. I'm just saying there's more money back in your pocket if you were if you weren't running having to have, you know, >> certain department started going towards batteries and now they're all pulling back. When I go to chief's meetings, they're starting they went they went that way to go to batteries. Now, everyone's pulling back because of money
of putting charging stations and everything else. And now because of the colder winters, are they going to maintain? Are they going to be more are they going to be practical compared to a gas motor? >> Yeah. >> Vehicle. >> Yeah. You know, again, I just from from a m from a maintenance perspective, that's what I was trying to because
there basically is I agree with it because we've talked about it and I'm like >> can go down that road and then all of a sudden it's too late to turn back because now we're stuck with vehicles that won't run in the middle of the winter because batteries and defect, >> right? And I'm not saying you replace the whole fleet or anything like that, but especially if you're looking at like a detective vehicle, right, or something
like that. I mean, you could potentially get significantly more life out of it. And the detective vehicle isn't, you know, even if you lose, let's call it because I think they typically say it's like 75% of the range in the winter, right? Even if you're down to 75%. It might not be an issue. >> That's why we wanted to move the hybrid vehicle if you lost time right now to
the detective vehicle that's already up for a battery also to get. >> The hybrids are tough because basically you're managing two system. You're basically warranting two systems, which you know, it's not one or the other. It's both and each one could have its own issues to to your point with the electrical thing. Um, the other question
I had is, so I know you have this. Is there a typical lifespan, like, you know, look at some of these that are crazy, right? This has like 687,000, you know, hours, miles combo on the the 574, right? And we're looking to replace
the 140 and well, we got a question mark because we don't know on the road. Um, is there a lifespan typically for a vehicle like this when you look at that final number that you're like, "Oh, hey, now it's it's real real bad." Right. So, we we we
change oil every month. Those are detail cars. So, those are just that's a lot of idling time that they're just sitting out there. >> We're we're getting back money from the detail cars. Every time they idle out there, we get paid from third party details that goes into the cruiser revolving account. >> Okay. Um, and that's used to like offset
offset prices on on buying a new car and buying equipment for the station. So, we don't have to come to the town. We don't have to come to the finance committee. That's why we started that revolving account. We currently don't have enough in there to be like drain the whole account towards these two cars. Um, over time over probably three, four years
depending on what the details are. >> Okay. >> What's in there for that? uh roughly around 3,000 while we used it last year to buy the trailer which was seven. So we used that instead of taking it out of the budget or going to town
meeting for it. We needed a trailer for quads and bikes whatever else. So we used 7,000 out of that last year to purchase a trailer that we didn't have >> generated about 10,000 a year. >> Uh it honestly depends on >> depends how busy it is. >> If there's a lot of we had poll details
for like almost two years straight. So the the the fund was going up. But if things are slowing down, they've hit and slow down a little bit. Less money's going in it. >> Don't you use certain cars for detail work only? >> Yeah, those are the green ones. >> Yeah.
>> Um >> that's why those are higher hours. Um usually we we bump them down. We always take the newer car, add it into the line, and take the oldest car out. >> It's not that that car is not reliable that that oldest car. It's just I rather have something that I know is brand new.
Not saying it's going to be reliable, brand being brand new, but it's it's new and it's, you know, those are the call those are cars going to your house, going to medical, stuff like that, you know. >> What about the optics of two new administrative cars when you need so
many more police cars? >> Right now, there's the window of opportunity to replace the two admin cars. Um, mainly because the Taurus that I'm driving now is at 95,000 mi. Um, it's a 2019, so we've I mean, we we're
pushing to to get time out of that car, but I mean, it's hitting 100,000 miles. We've had some mechanical issues with it. So, the the thought process now is to trade that in while it's still we can get still get some money for it as well as the Nissan and slide the deputy's car
down to the to the detective and then hopefully we get get by a year without replacing a patrol car, but we've replaced three patrol cars since I've been chief. Um, and right now we're in a not a great standing, but we're we're we're in a fair standing right now. Wouldn't it make sense to get one patrol
car and one administrative car >> right now? Use them at the same time. >> Looking at a lot more money. >> What's the cost difference? >> Yeah. >> Probably about last year was 80 88,000 versus
>> 62. >> Yeah. So it's 88,000 because that's a different buildout than >> I understand. Yeah. But every year we try to replace a patrol car and >> and we just got one in in March. So,
what I was trying to take, that's what I was saying, using that window of opportunity to be able to move a couple cars around and trade some older cars in to just unload them and get the admin cars updated right now because we we've had those cars for a few years and then
try to maybe get a buy a year without requesting a patrol car depending on what's going on mechanically in the fleet. You know, >> I think just the thread you're pulling at, which a question I wanted to ask as well, is it seems like a patrol car
could be used for you as an administrative vehicle if needed, but an administrative vehicle could not be utilized as a patrol car. Is that correct? >> True. >> Is that what you're thinking? So, but when you take a when you're using a
patrol car administratively to outfit it after the fact with a cage and everything else, you're kind of spending money again because now you're you're driving a patrol car as an administrative function. So, you're buying an overpriced vehicle.
>> I think >> Yeah. You know what I mean? >> But I think so. But I think I I do agree with Peter's line of thought again around, you know, you're looking you're asking for two two admin cars at, you know, call it 122 whereas I feel a little bit if you were
coming to us asking for a single uh regular car at 80, you know, >> is there a patrol an older patrol car that could serve as an admin car >> and be replaced with a new patrol car.
Is that kind of where you're going as well? >> That's that's the issue we're against. I mean, mileage wise, >> this there isn't a suitable car on the on the lot right now that could be a patrol car that could be used as a admin car.
>> Strip it to strip it down. >> Why would you have to strip it down? >> Would it be necessary? >> Who cares if there's a cage in there or not? No, >> I'm saying. But to drive around a mock unit. I mean >> you know what I mean? Like
>> how often do you patrol the streets daily? Both of you? >> We go out we go out on calls. Yeah. We >> Yeah. >> When when needed so lately it's been were on calls yesterday with guys we were trying to apprehend and I was on calls today on my way home. >> Y
>> I mean it varies. >> Right. I think the other thing too is um you know because I posed all of these questions when I met with the chief and the deputy. Um by the way, thank you again gentlemen for letting me come in and ask some hard questions. And one of
the things we did discuss was the life of these two admin cars. You're looking at anywhere between five to eight nine years. they're not going to get as much road rage on them as the patrol cars.
So, they're going to have a longer lifespan. Um, and at some point, you know, they can be moved around in the fleet. So, we're going to get more use versus buying another patrol car and maybe one admin car and then in a couple
years having to replace another patrol car. So, I think it's it's more or less looking at where are we going to get the most for the buck right now. I I have to commend them with reviewing the leasing
option because they're coming to us for well when you take in account of the you know getting the money for the two cars. They're really only looking for $20,000 right now to get two cars versus what
they first proposed which was $122,000 which we don't have. Um, so I think they've been creative in the process. And again, in looking at this, these two cars, we're going to get a lot of life out of them versus a patrol car we're
going to have to replace in a couple of years because of the amount of of use that the patrol cars take. >> Thank you. They they have been creative um with their >> with their funding. Uh and they also have requested uh this before uh at
least one cruiser and we we had to put it off to d to to funding. So it's also timing where if we had we funded that >> um when they when the police department originally asked that admin cruiser we would be in a spot we're only looking at one now but they they worked with us
they you know we we put that off. So now we're at a point where um you know we we asked them to you know come back be creative. They they've met with everyone and uh >> and maybe leasing is going to be the way to go in the future. I don't I don't
know. >> Yeah. I mean napkin mathwise if you look at hard cost at 122 three payments for both cruisers at 43 put it at about 131 over three years. Right? So it's about a $10,000 increase in cost. If you go to the five-year
payment, it's about another $10,000 about 142. So, you're basically you're adding 20 grand over five years for two cruisers as opposed to paying the upfront 122. Um, I mean, that's nice. My question answer
maybe for you, would we then start how would how would that work from a budgeting perspective? we would just add basically would we add another line inside the police budget as like lease vehicles and that way we can track it and and >> um so it would be because it's an
article it would be a separate article within this budget >> within the operating but outside of the appropriations. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Because I think um which as you guys probably know the other issue we're running into is the fire department just had a tribute to crush as well and you
know he didn't he didn't even ask us for another one. I guess he's running a 2004 admin vehicle right now. It's from 2004. >> Was that caught fire? >> Caught fire. Okay. See, so he Yeah. >> 2004.
>> It's not right. So, um, it's it's tough for us when we look at, and I'm just speaking personally, when we look at a laundry list of cruisers, and I'm not saying that your concerns aren't valid, but when I look at, you know, the fire department who is went from three
vehicles to to one. Um, and we need to figure something out for them as well. And now I'm wondering if if we've looked at these things for for you because >> Yeah. Yeah. had that did some get but I'm leaning for insurance me on the one that
>> right we've purchased pursuit rated vehicles in the past which the car I'm driving now is a pursuit rated vehicle at the 95,000 mile mark that was Chief Max previous uh car when he retired um but you're paying all that
extra money for a pursuit rated vehicle you can spend less money on an admin vehicle but you can move it around later on to the detective or put it in the put it in the uh detail line and save some money instead of just throwing, you know, money out there to say, "Hey,
we're going to get super rated vehicles." I understand Mr. Karen's point on it, but when you're looking at the big picture and you're like, "All right, the window of opportunities now to try to move cars around and out some older cars like the Nissan and the Taurus, you start looking at admin costs because
they're a lot less money than buying a pursuit. It's the reason why I went this way. Ford doesn't make one, but does Chevy make a car? >> So, I've had nothing but problems with Chevys, so trying to stay away from them. That's why our our next our other car was a Ford Explorer,
>> right? So, are we pigeon rolling? We can only do Fords and Chevys. >> So, no, there's Ford, Chevy, >> Ford, Ford, Chevy, and Dodge that doated vehicles. So, Dodge, CCON, Katanova had a bunch of Dodges. They're nothing but
front end problems. They're not good for quick jaunts. They need to cool down in between. Um so like driving from the station to a call and then jumping in the car again in a matter of like five minutes and driving again. >> Right. What I'm saying is um I've owned
all kinds of cars. Um my favorite cars are Hondas and Toyotas. They last forever and I know you you can beat the snot out of them and they keep going and keep going. especially the engines and are we pigeonholed that we there's no
other car. I'm just throwing those out. >> I asked this very question when we were there. >> Yeah, this these are I I guess I I don't know. I I can't answer that. I have to look at the municipal bid and make sure they're on the bid list and you know they're under contract. Like I I don't know if Honda is, I don't know if Toyota
is. >> They're limit They're limited in what manufacturers are doing the specifically rated vehicles. It's Americanade. Yeah. >> So, I'm I'm looking at these repair costs and you're looking at $7,000
2,300. These are the ones on the green. >> Um you're over $11,000. Actually, close to $13,000. And you know, the the best lease option with a fiveyear is like 28. I mean, it's
half of what you've been paying for that lease. And as far as the electric ones go, you've already had to do a charging system and a transmission rebuild. And those are the newer cars. They're both 21s. >> Yeah, the hybrids. The hybrids are an
issue. >> So, until they're perfected, I don't think we really should be going down that road with the hybrids. >> Deputy chief. >> And these terms are unbelievable. I mean, if I'm looking at these these uh these lease terms and what they're offering you,
>> it's basically you're financing the vehicle is essentially what you're doing. It's just >> no down payment. >> Buy it for a buck at the end. >> I was like, I couldn't get this. Yeah, here it is. >> So, the
maintenance on all the vehicles, tax exempt interest, no down payment. I mean, can I get that? >> Exactly. So, >> at 8% Doug, yes, you can. >> You're after >> or five.
>> No, no, no. See, >> I think the problem is that of >> is that it's what can we afford, >> right? >> Because don't have funds currently, >> to be able to do that. So, that's what makes
>> this work, >> that work, right? I Can I can I I I like where you're going, but I wanted to ask we're talking about this equipment equipment that can't be put in or isn't available for Toyotas and Hondas and so
forth uh to turn them into a you know reasonable police car. But in terms of an administrative car, is it possible to get the radio and whatever minimal equipment is needed for an ad? >> Still has to be approved on the bed. >> Yes, ma'am. It has to be there's a
municipal bed list of what >> it has to be. Okay. And it's just not. >> No. >> I I was having I had this discussion earlier today. I have to hear the pickup truck. I wish Toyota made a cruiser cuz I guarantee we wouldn't have half the issues we have.
>> What would it take to put it on? >> That's bigger than us. Yeah. >> So, I think the other question is what's the difference in power between a Toyota and a Ford? >> Well, that's something that could be easily fixed because if you take a look at a Honda or a Toyota, you're talking
about a Lexus or an Acura. They all make um engines that are extremely competitive. The only issue it sounds like to me it's what um somebody has decided like you said beyond our pay
grade on what is going to be you know board certified or whatever and I think that's ridiculous but we have to go with what we have >> and I think lease options are great options too because as you was talking about like the repairs and everything's
covered in under the leases I think that's why a lot of other towns >> that I've spoken to I spoke to Chief Bon the um Abington chief um few weeks back lease options. A lot of towns are starting to look at that avenue of lease options because they're getting more cars and instead of buying one or two,
they're getting more cars and a lump sum and then at the end of the term having the option either with the res residual of turning the cars in for what they're worth or buying them out at the end of the term, >> right? Because then we, you know, theoretically we had a lease fleet, right? you're just maintaining that lease fleet budget item on, you know, on
an annualized basis and then you're swapping cars as necessary, which in your line of work. >> The thing that concerns me about that is is the the premium you're paying for the lease. With one or two, it seems like it makes sense because you're
got eight or 10 of these. >> Looks like it's about five grand a car. >> About five five grand a car, right? >> [ __ ] five cars, >> right? >> Now you're you're not you're not for sure. But we don't have if you don't have the upfront cost, which we don't
have 122 grand. So >> in the back end, if you buy it for a dollar, now all your payments stop. >> There's no prepayment penalties or anything. You can buy it off. We come come into money somewhere. >> And we've done that with other leases
that we have when we have the money. We're able to prepay. So that's that's nice. >> Yeah, we did that with last year's articles. Yeah. So that was that was going to be my next question for around things. Serena, we consciously paid off every lease that we had this past year
with pre-cash because we knew what was coming. So now how comfortable are you two with a consideration? I mean what what's being presented is right a three-year lease and a fiveyear lease. First of
all, we get can we go can we go to five year lease or we're just limited to three? Number one. Number two, these are the two cars. So these are two for two cars. Do you I mean do you split it say and if you go for the uh if you go for the
again five year one car let's let's say it's 24 $24,000 a year. Can we handle 24,000? I hope we can. >> We can. You know, I hope we can. I think uh and Right. So, how do we grab the
art? We don't have that much left in free cash. I think um number >> 56,000 >> 56. Yeah, I was kind of doing quick calculations. 56,000 things
come up. So, I I would I would ask that first resolve the issue. Is it one car or two cars? Yeah. And then once you decide that uh you know then we could then we could have a discussion on you
know who we have to fund >> if if you only get one what is the order of operations for that which one goes to or goes >> just to clarify did you say we possibly could not do a fiveyear lease >> I do can we do a fiveyear lease
>> there's there's an option >> believe we can >> that's yeah >> okay I I know in in general with like municipalities. >> Okay. So, if if we've had a history of paying these off early and went with the
five, then we're not obligated beyond the fiveyear on that lower that lower cost per year and it goes into another budget. >> We I I would just hesitate to say we have a history of doing that early. We did it because we had reserve funds to draw on and we were trying to get stuff
off the rep uh recurring payments off the books, right? So I would just have to say like we have a history of if we again to uh to illustrate that point if we didn't pay them off we would be I
forget what the numbers are but we would be trying to find that money for this budget which >> we wouldn't have >> sorry so the order operations would turn the tourist would go road would stay >> you know we we came up with $295,000
just like that to come up with a a dump truck. Um, this here is h half of that. And I think the police department has demonstrated that they're thinking strategically and smart with their maintenance and and how they're going to move their assets around. Uh,
personally, I think Don's a town that supports the police department, wants to give our departments the resources they need. I think everyone is definitely thinking in the best interest of the taxpayers and being resourceful. Um, but I think
I think if it was uh an exorbitant expense, it would be it wouldn't be such a thoughtful discussion that we're having. It would be very easy for us to say no, this is not for us. I think we're all really thinking this through hard because um we're trying to
give the department the resources they're asking for and and I think I personally think they demonstrated it. I I like the five year lease idea personally uh because if it gives us the flexibility if we
don't have the funds that or it's lean leaner years that we can just pay that minimum lease payment and hopefully being an optimist and hopefully the state sees the financial pressures that all of these towns including is facing um that we can pay that lease off early.
So me for one, I support this. Um the police department has done without um recently with their request for cruisers. So I just kind of look at this as catchup and um kind of smart planning with their assets. >> Can I say one thing? >> Just the dump truck that's being
replaced is 1990, right? >> 96. 96. >> Yeah. I would push I would I would push back on that a little bit of like we found the money for a dump truck. Yeah. Because dead explos on fire, not quite on fire, but essentially
>> Hey Ryan, the two cars that we're going to trade in >> ballpark off the top of your head and and lowball it. How much money do you think you're going to save in repairs for those two cars if you had to be stuck with them for a while? >> Um, just in oil changes alone and all
that. Give me the numbers. thousand maybe each guy. I'm not saying nothing went wrong, but I'm aware. >> So, there are some small amount of funds that maybe the chief can help us with next year in his budget to help put
towards one of the payments of the lease if if it works out that way, you know. >> So, I was going to say that we we do have that evolving cruiser account. I mean, close to that 5year mark, if stuff starts to pick up and that account starts to grow, we can maybe offset that payment a little using that account. Just depends on how the details will pan
out. But see, you know that that's depend on the work. Yeah, >> these aren't cruisers. So, we'd have to see the art the revolving was equipment accessories. >> I think it was adjusted for that. >> Pretty sure it's
your car right now. You're correct. >> Is the 122,000 include equipping the vehicle with whatever it is that you need to >> That's everything. Yeah. Ford will Ford will finance the whole build out and everything. >> I saw that in the package. >> There's no,
>> but like I said, these are 2026 prices. >> Yeah. Yeah. You're going to get a seven and a half% bump probably. >> So that's that's just what they had right now. Ford hasn't released the 2027 yet, so I'm not sure. But if that goes that much more, maybe I can offset with trades and negotiate with them on
getting the trades down. I know we're um >> yeah, I know we are discussing the the police article specifically, but I I do just want to reiterate again, I'm I'm uh my line of thinking is I like the lease option a lot and I think that's a
smart way as long as we don't, to Glenn's point, get over ambitious with piling on a ton of leases. Um, I I question and I'm and I'm worried because we have to deal with the fire uh
fire department situation as well of him needing an administrative vehicle as well. And I personally would be, you know, I appreciate this a lot because I really came in with a pretty set no um for both. And I'd be okay with doing one
for the police and getting a lease payment for the fire department for the other admin. That way at least both departments are getting something and we're not blowing out >> you know >> my same similar thinking is you know I
would almost prefer to go with one now and fall look at see where everything is and >> right it's not a permanent no it's just >> you guys will know at that point more he'll know more what where he stands and and then address him and we've got cash
>> if we wish to defaul them we go into the higher pricing at that point. >> I think we're just we're going to go into that. >> Yeah, they're going to go into it anyways. >> When they release it, I don't know when they release it. Maybe July. >> I think it starting June. >> So, we look at if we did one chop it in
half, it'd be if you want the 5142, which Yeah. So, I mean, that's something where even a worst case scenario, we get the funding for our reserve fund, we get, you know what I mean? like it's not as >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. I I think that that would be my opinion would would do one for them now and then with the preparation of either fall for fire and a second one for them. Um but at least we can get them started on on one now to get the tourists out
>> and then we can incrementally go that way. I'm just I'm just worried about overspending. >> Yeah. Overcommitting. >> Overcommitting. Even though it is it's we're talking about $14,000, but I mean here we are $28 million budget with
$57,000 of free cash, $16,000 of reserve. And I'm assuming at this point the budgets are pretty tight. So we're not really looking at a lot of options for transfers next month and obviously not much left in in
reserves at all. >> So we're at 53 for free, right? 56. So what was it? 42 >> 42 >> ish. Call it 40 for easy napkin. It's tight, but >> I don't recall it in my years ever being
at $40,000 at the end of the year. >> Not in the last three years. >> That would be my That would be my thoughts. I mean, any other ones better than mine? Well, no. And I don't necessarily disagree with you, but as far as the
fire chief, >> he's going to need one, too. I'm saying one. >> No, no, no. I understand that. But are we going to do that like now or is he going to wait till the fall? >> He's going to have to wait till the fall. No article. >> Doesn't he need two though? The fire
chief, he's down to one. He had three, right? Well, he had three because we gave him one was replacing a second one that was bumping down and the 04 was originally going to be retired, but then the accident with the tree happened with the one that the middle one that bumped down. So, we had to maintain the 04. So,
>> right. So, he needs two. He has one. He needs two, not three. Correct. >> Correct. >> Very well. >> It's been a crazy year. >> The summary of events. Yeah. Why wouldn't we do his two now and since
we have to wait for the fall for him anyways and do his in the fall >> and do two. >> So then you're buying three instead of two. My suggestion was to buy two. One for them now, one for them in the fall. And if we have the funds to potentially add a third, but we're not committing to the third because now you're asking for
three instead of he needs one regardless. >> I thought it was four too. I'm confused. >> He just needs one. >> He just needs one. So it' be two two requested now >> just one. >> So think about that that right now there's three three of the a need for
three vehicles. >> Two one. >> Okay. >> So then that would be one of them out of the way, >> right? >> Possibly and one and one for the fall. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I I don't disagree with any of the comments either and I 100% agree on
having too many lease leases. Uh, but I I don't think that three lease payments is overly ambitious. I think that's reasonable. And um I look at my own personal finances and my own my own vehicle that I just bought in 2024 and
it's gone up $5,000, the the new model. So, if you think about interest and um you know, the cost, it's going to keep going up the longer we wait anyways. whether we're paying it in interest or we're putting it off. Um I I would rather support
both departments. And I think too when you think of the maintenance and kind of shuffling those vehicles around and putting >> Yeah. It was like 13,000. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I I I understand the margins are getting tight and I'm very well aware of that. Um
>> I think we're regret if we don't >> public safety. I I just don't see >> if we're going to be spending money on these types of things, I would like to I would like to see them going towards the safety of our residents, supporting these departments. Um I I don't know. I
don't think it's overly ambitious. Presley, >> I agree with just one. I don't think we should do the two >> and I think we revisit the second one for police in the fall. >> In the fall, five months. >> Yeah. >> What kind of cars are we talking about?
Ford. Ford. What? explores. >> Yep. >> Do you guys need to talk first or you want us to? >> You guys can make your motions. We'll uh we'll follow suit. >> So, this article there it's two articles, >> right? >> Um
>> but we're not we're not >> So, if we I would say we um if if I may, I had a brief discussion with the board of selectment. If for the articles um and we put it further on down line for the articles if you're only going to
fund one of the police cars my uh my advice and suggestion would be as as also you only funding one of the trucks is uh open uh we have open the warrant amended to remove those two so we don't
have confusion. Uh so if you already know you're only gonna have to pay for one truck, one highway truck. It's the case where you're going to do one um one police vehicle. Then we just make
sure we agree that in the next in the next line of the agenda, we just take those two articles out because we uh it's easier at this stage because we got a finalized warrant tonight. It's easier to amend by taking out how hard it is. We don't really want to add articles,
>> right? I So my my second followup question to that is since we're no longer since the articles are for purchase, not lease, >> does that mean they have it has to be rewritten? >> Yes. >> Okay. And then would we need to vote on it again?
>> Okay. So, do we make a motion for the two vehicles on the lease first? How do you >> uh Well, the motion would be to um just take the cars one >> one at a time.
>> So, can we start? I guess it really doesn't matter because >> I I would say I would say just like easy article 14 to for the lease and then no
recommendation on 15 if I'm remembering take it out >> that might be the way to do it. We're getting a no from the end of the table. >> Well, >> um, so article 14 is for the 56,000 and
article 15 has the 3500 trade in reduced in there already. >> And so the BOS can make their recommendation if they want to remove article 14. And then I would say that the pencom just needs to vote on article
15 and then decide if it's the three-year or the 5year. And then if we could just round up because that's >> not going to be enough money. >> Yeah. Are we are we five years you think? >> Yeah I think five year.
Oh, so we're going to have to get an agreement on that because I think half the table says one for now. And that's why we're talking about removing one of the police vehicles. Uh removing article 14 and then revisiting it in the fall and then approving article 15 for the second one with a 5year lease. So that
would be 14,500 additional cost instead of 62 >> to remove article 15 if that's what we're going to do. >> They can't vote on something that's not >> Yeah. That's why we budgeted a little because if you do the math 14,
>> are they going to change because we went in for two on the lease? >> Uh, I don't believe so. I can find out tomorrow for sure. >> Okay. That would be my only question is are they giving us a deal on two and so if we go we would just want one, they're going to go well then it's going to be a
totally different price. That would be my only question. >> Municipal. >> No. price is the price and that's what you get. >> Yeah, >> cuz they're already bought in bulk, >> right? Because they're not just going to Don. >> I'm sorry.
>> Because they're already bought at bulk. So they're not they're not just going to Dy, right? So whether you buy one or 10, the price per vehicle is the price per vehicle. >> All right. So BLS has to vote to resend one of the articles or how
>> we can do that after. Wait, should they because they're changing the article, maybe they open it. >> We might not. Maybe if the finance committee if that motion if the finance committee makes their motion, we that we could take that in consideration. I think the finance committee should make their motions first.
>> Okay. Do you want us to do article at a time? I think the warrant needs open >> I think the warrant needs to be opened first. >> Yeah. So, yeah, >> because we're changing Yes. >> the wording of the article. >> The dollar. >> Yeah. We can only vote on the wording of the article. >> Yes. >> Okay. I make a motion to open the war
article. >> All right. We have a motion. Is there a second? >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. Motion carries. >> So, now we can make a recommendation or >> So, the warrant's open now. tomorrow.
Should they have should the board select vote to have article 14 reflect as a lease? >> Serena and then they vote on it. >> Either one. >> Yeah. >> Either 14 or 15.
>> Well, yeah. So I think uh the uh then Miss should go to amend uh amending article 14 to u lease. >> Sorry. Go ahead. >> Sorry. No, go ahead. You're saying to the lease?
>> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And then and then 14 is the lease and then and then I think the the finance committee could recommend and then
give you a recap article 14 to see if the town will appropriate. to transfer from available funds to sum up to what up the lease prices to to pay a >> any motions on the floor.
>> Do you want a dollar amount? How much we did? What do you think? 145 20 242 >> if you want to do a little material. >> Yes. Thank you.
Do we just do one? >> Yeah, one of the two. >> Yeah. So, if you if you're looking at the 5year lease, it's 145 would give us a little bit of cushion for a potential price increase for the 27th. >> Three year would be 242. >> I'm sorry.
22 22. Is it the same figure for five years? Is that correct? >> It'd be less. It' be 14,500. 14,500 for the 5year. It'd be 22,200 if you wanted to suggest the three years. >> That's 145 for 5 years.
>> Correct. Yes. Yeah. >> But this is the cost of the 26. But you're going to be buying a 27, >> right? >> So, we budgeted about an extra $300. Well, we budgeted an extra $300 if you did that. If you did the actual math, it
was 14,200. So, we added an extra 300 for the for the warrant suggesting we're suggesting for the warrant article. That way, if there's a slight price increase, it probably will eat it up. Um, and if we need to find the extra $50 $50
>> any um any of my colleagues like to make a motion on this? I'm not going to make >> uh I will I will make the motion. >> Okay. Could you uh >> Oh, we got to do one article at a time. So, let's do article 14. Right.
>> Okay. So, article 14. I'm entertaining a motion. So, you >> to amend article 14 >> to uh to read 14 to read five years for >> five years. >> Okay. in the amount of 14,500.
>> Okay. So, we have a motion on the floor. Is there a second? I will step down and second. Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. All right. Motion carries. Uh for article 14. Um
while we're still on this agenda, topic of having the warrant open, we might as well make a motion on article 15 as well. Is there any any motions for article 15? motion. >> Hey. Uh, so is the motion the same as
just for clarification, the same as um Mr. Cavage's motion, >> right? >> Okay. So, we have a motion on >> there going to be reduction in the price because of the trading. >> Uh, >> are we buying one vehicle or two vehicles? >> So, now we're on article 15. So, we did article 14.
>> That's the first vehicle, >> right? That's vehicle one. So, article 15 is vehicle two. >> So, you guys want to recommend to buy a second vehicle? So, we're in the middle of a motion. So, we we just made a motion. So, we can't say that. Point of order. We need a second and and then discussion. You could ask that. So, we
have a motion on the floor. Is there a second? >> I I don't want to second until I fully understand it. I'm afraid I'm a little confused. Is Is the intention to get two vehicles? >> It's not my intentions to get two. >> That's why I didn't vote for the first
one and make a motion. Well, I I take the second one because it's a reduction in the price, which is why I made a motion to approve the second one. >> Could you just state your motion? >> My motion is to approve the article 15 for a lease vehicle for 5 years in
whatever the total is. That's >> 14,5,500. >> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> Article 14's for one. for >> and I say are we allowed to to speak? >> Well, you can't under discussion.
There's a motion on the floor right now. So, there's a motion. Is there a second? >> I will second. >> Okay. So, there's a motion, a second. Is there any discussion? >> So, I understand what Peter uh what Peter's doing because one of them had a lower price because you're valuing the
trade in at $3,500. If we you getting that $3,500 if we So, so let's say we we took the the article 15 out and just had the article 14. We could take that $3,500 and that you're getting for that trade
in and apply it towards lease payment. >> Do you assume that your this price includes the two trades? >> No, it doesn't. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So basically if we did one they'd get an extra $3,500 which either they could put in the cruiser revolving fund
or or something like that >> or it would go towards the difference between 26 and 27 >> right or difference right difference 26 27 so it gives us even yeah even a little bit more but I understand what Peter's doing but I don't know if it's necessary like I think if one of them
being removed and the other them just going with one they're going to get the $3500 regardless whether >> you're doing 15 or It's not 66 and 625. Now it's 145. >> Right, >> Peter? I wish I had understood that where you were headed with that.
>> That's okay. >> Okay, we have a motion and a second. So, all in favor? >> I I >> Okay, motion carries. So, now we have two articles on the floor that >> read the same. >> That read the same. >> Yeah.
>> Um, is there any other motions on the floor? Can I make a motion to remove one of the two articles? Removing the more expensive one. I believe that's number >> They're both equal now. Remember >> they're both equal. >> Yeah. >> Then I I make a motion to remove article
14. >> Okay. We have a motion on the floor. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Okay. We have a motion in a second. Uh under discussion. I'm just going to still uh say that I I almost feel like the finance committee was going to um
was going to I didn't hear their vote, but I kind of heard their discussion that sounded like their board might be in favor of the two police cruisers. Uh I think that they are I think generally the board of selectman follows suit of the finance committee.
Not always, but in general, I I was hoping that we would kind of get the two. Um, but so I'm going to vote no on that motion. But anyways, we have a motion, a second. Any other discussion? Okay. All in favor? >> I And I'm a no. So motion carries. Any
other motions on the um >> on the warrant articles? Okay. And uh I guess the floor is yours. The only article that we need to discuss is article 15.
>> I'll make a motion to recommend article 15 as amended um in to raise an appropriate transfer from available funds sum of 14,500 for 5year lease payment for the police chief admin vehicle. >> What's the recommended funding source?
>> Free cash. >> Second. >> All in favor? I >> I >> I >> I opposed. I have it. No. >> What about 14? >> It's gone.
>> 14 doesn't exist. >> Doesn't exist. >> 14. >> Does the board of selection have a recommendation on article 15? >> Uh, I would vote to recommend. >> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> I'll second.
>> Okay. Okay. Any discussion? All in favor? >> I >> I there anything else that needed from us? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Thank you guys very much. >> Thank you. >> Thanks.
>> I'm not sure what order Ralph wants to address. All >> she's throwing it back to you. >> Lively discussions. >> All right. So, we'll do the budget. We have one, two, three, four departments that
changed from the last meeting. >> Okay. So, the first department, which will need BOS and the FINC comp to make new recommendations, is department um 220, the fire department. There was a new contract
signed and we did not increase the uniform contractual increase, which is split between the two departments. So, it's an additional $275. And the handout has the different dollar amounts because the BOS threats and the
pincom rests did not match. So if the board of selectman want to have their discussion and make their recommendation first then we can move on to the finance committee. >> Is is this the after the new number >> that is including the new 275 is the very bottom number.
They would need the motion. Did we get did this information come out later from our meeting? Is that why we weren't on the same page with the finance committee? >> We we had end the difference between us and you guys, we put an extra $5,000 in
the repairs and maintenance from some of the money that got pulled back from health insurance >> because we were worried about the second vehicle that caught on fire. So, we were correctly >> we were correctly slight changes a result of the contractual
>> the 275 the 27 the 275 yeah after >> okay any discussions from the board >> any motions >> I'll make a motion to approve >> so for clarification your motions to match the finance committee's
recommendation okay so we have a motion is there a second >> any discussion all in favor >> I motion carries. >> Make a motion to amend the finance committee recommendations 286053139.
>> Second, somebody else got to make the motion. So, >> oh, sorry. You want to go ahead? >> Good. Okay. I'll make a motion to update finance committee recommendation for department 220 to the amount of
$860,531.39. Second. All in favor? >> I like it. >> Thank you. The next one is the ambulance fund the number 231 and it's the same additional 275. And then on this one, the BOS and the
PNCOM did have the same recommendation previously. >> You guys want to go first? >> Yeah, sure. Any motions on the floor? I'll make a motion to uh approve to go with the finance comm recommendation. >> All right, we have a motion. Is there a second?
>> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. Motion carries. >> Thank you. The next one is the building department 240. >> Sorry. >> No, you're fine. It's all right. Uh I'll make a motion uh to update the recommendation for department 233 uh
total amount of $887,949421. Sorry. Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I post oppos. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Building 241. >> I make the motion to go with finance
committee's recommendation. >> Okay. We have a motion. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. Motion carries. I have this one now. I'll make a motion to update Fincom's recommendation for
department 241 to $130,452.73. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I have seven. Um and then the next one is not in the packet but as we heard the Dian Ro regional assessment has decreased and then also this morning we
were informed that the Aggie um also decreased. So I have a new apartment total for education. >> How much? >> Um I think 20,000 was it 240? Um,
>> it was 360. Now it's 327. >> So, does the select want the new education number? >> Who would love that? >> 15,974,512. Any motions on the floor?
>> To accept those new numbers. >> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> Okay, I will step down and second. Any further discussion? All in favor? >> I >> I and one no. Motion carries.
>> I'll make a motion to update our recommendation for department 3000. Uh total 15,940 974,512. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> No oppos.
>> The next article previously was number 21. So it might be number 20 now. >> Well, still 21 on our package, right? >> Yeah. the zoning >> to obtain whatever parcels and easements
as necessary. So it's probably the older version is 20,000 but now it's reduced to 7,000 >> article 20 >> is now $7,000. >> I make that motion to approve the new $7,000 figure.
>> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> Second. >> All right, motion second. Any discussion? All in favor? >> I >> I motion carries. >> I'll make a motion to recommend article 20 form $7,000 for Eastman's purchases
from free cash. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I post. You guys have it. >> That's everything I have for the finance money. Um ACF does the does the board want to
make any recommendations on >> uh 22 24 212 24 and 25. Okay. Well, that's that's 2122 24. >> Ready? Okay. I'll make a motion to uh to
um recommend article 21. >> All right. We have a motion. Is there a second? >> All right. Any discussion? All in favor? I >> I motion carries. Take your time. >> Yeah.
>> It's on page 26 uh article 22. I'll make a motion that the uh second go recommend. >> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> I will second. >> Any discussion? Just uh could I just get
a real quick uh description of what the change generally means >> from what it was? >> What change you mean? >> Yeah. >> Is it article? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. That's the uh uh >> uh so um the planning board sites put moratorum on solar fields and and energy energy storage facilities. The state is coming out with new regulations regarding uh energy storage
facilities. So they want to get an understanding of it. So that they're requesting a moratorum on it. The state has better better regulation. >> So the moratorum itself is the change. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> This is 212. >> All right. Any other discussion? All in favor? >> I >> I motion carries. 24 recommendation that recommend that motion that the board can recommend. >> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a
second? Any discussion? All in favor? >> I motion carries. >> 25 motion that recommends. >> All right, we have a motion. Is there a second? Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? I. Motion
carries. Article 26 is uh the home petition for the uh please know that was interested in it. I don't know if we had the language
complete presented on Make a motion that the board and recommend article 26. >> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you. Any discussion? All in favor? >> Oh, did you have discussion?
>> I did. I just again I'm I'm sorry. I would love just a very short explanation. >> Uh, sure. Um it's a treasure with what the town is uh looking to do is to see if they could uh
when there's a certain size development that they would be able to create fees for the uh to the developer to to handle um some whatever additional services may be the result of of the development.
>> Okay. Um and I'm an I motion carries. most electrical and water and >> uh mostly uh uh like police needs to be an expansion of police service. It needs
to be an expansion of of a classroom. Uh it's has to be specific to the specific to the to the developed. >> Yes. Any motions on article 27? Uh I think
>> we just article >> 27. We did 26 >> 28. Uh oh no that's uh the county accept revisions authorize the annual increase of amount of the exemption granted uh
that's the veterans one yeah no no you guys didn't make a a recommendation on that I don't know I don't know waiting for anything I'll make a motion to accept article 27 the board and recommend.
>> Okay. Is there >> Sorry. I'll make a motion that the board suck and recommend the 27th. >> We have a motion. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I >> I should be end of our recommendations.
Anything else from the finance committee? >> The only thing just a couple of notes for when I walked in you were the question to the school. Last year the increase was 3.7%. And just as an overall statement, uh
right now we're looking at very rough because we're just going off some rough numbers for the total for this year. The overall town budget is up 2% even 2%. >> I don't have anything. Does anybody else have anything? >> Um question.
>> Yeah. Okay. Um, for the articles 16 and 17, the two highway trucks, one of them is recommended and I wasn't sure if the BOS was going to consider removing number 17 that is not recommended. >> Good point. Thank you. That's a good
idea for clarity. I I believe >> Thank you. >> I'll make a motion that we remove article 20 is it 17? >> 17. >> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> All right. motion to second. Any discussion? All in favor?
>> I >> I motion carries. Thank you. And thank you to the finance committee for being with us again. We appreciate it. >> We'll uh we'll adjourn our meeting if you if you guys are all set with us. >> I don't know if they have to close the
line. >> I will entertain that motion. >> Make a recommendation to close the current war. >> Motion. Is there a second? >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. Motion carries. >> Take a motion to adjurnn.
>> Take a motion to adjurnn. Finally. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I have it here. >> I'll entertain a motion for a two-minute recess if that's okay. >> I'll make a motion. >> Is there a second? >> All right. Any further discussion? All
in favor? I said I wouldn't No, no. I I just think I messed you up. I understand. We were already We were already congrats. I knew I knew >> regardless trading value of all those cars.
>> Oh yeah. >> We're already going to have to buy you, right? So it's just open question. What's wrong with the It seemed like >> that's right. Well, that was why I was
like, "Okay, I'd rather get All right. Is everyone ready? I think uh it's been a couple of minutes. >> I'll entertain a motion to go back to regular session. >> Is there a second?
>> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I. >> All right. So, next on our agenda is we have Lero Hill Court uh for the fire station building presentation. Good. Good evening. You say that. >> Thanks for waiting, guys.
>> I know it was tedious. >> We got to get through that stuff. Absolutely. Absolutely. >> Evening. Thank you. Uh Lero Hill Court has done a lot of studies um design and management of public safety facilities
in cities and towns throughout Massachusetts. Our feasibility study, we follow three directives on them. We do deliberate analysis, conservative assumptions, and community fit. My name is John Zwitz. I'm vice
president of architecture at Lur Hill. With me tonight, Mark Anderson. He's project manager and design lead. Ethan Zanelli is our project architect. And Nick Bett is our civil and site engineer. We're all available for questions. We've got a 20-minut
presentation that'll take you through the analysis and how we put together the feasibility study. If there's questions during the presentation, feel free to ask. If you want to wait till the end, totally up to you. Let Mark take it from here.
Right. Hello. Thank you all again for having us tonight. So, let me get to the next slide here. And as John mentioned, please feel free to jump in at any time. See what we figure out.
Just click on it. >> Ah, yeah. Perfect. Thank you. >> So, at the the heart of the study was really to take a deep look at the chief and his team's operations, how they're operating today against kind of a 75
year window, right? And begin to analyze the fire service delivery for Dyton that way. ultimately what the study concluded and we're going to go through that process how we what we looked at how we looked at it and and our findings but
ultimately a new purpose-built facility like a 247 facility uh seems to be the most fiscally responsible approach or path forward for Dyton at the end of the day and we'll we'll get into why that is as we move forward. So why are we here
tonight? We're not looking for any sort of uh decision or whatnot. We're I'm not sure if you've had time to look at the actual study itself if you haven't. Highly recommend you do. There's a lot of u more detailed information in the appendices, right? So, we're going to
give you a highle snapshot of of the takeaway right now. So, yeah, we're really just wanting to show you the project and kind of what the chief and his team have been working with and really what would be appropriate, you know, from a modern-day fire service delivery kind of well into
the future. So, a little bit about our process and the method of analysis is really boils down to these four steps right here. So we mobilized looked at the existing uh station one and station two from an infrastructure site and and building uh
condition perspective. You know Nick is here and we'll be able to answer any questions around some of the existing sites which uh have some interesting nuances around them. Then we spent a good deal of time really drilling into,
you know, accurately the the baseline needs of the chief and his team from a programming perspective. Yeah. That and that allowed us to really find out, okay, where do we need to be? And it was really a conservative exercise. I will say we came in with a more robust
program, but uh the chief rightly so brought us down to, you know, what was really the right size for Dyon that would still give you the flexibility and uh meet the needs of your community into the future. We also worked with Criterion Associates who did some gsi
response modeling. This was all based upon call data that the chief gave us. So real time look at where you know some of the most of the calls were coming from and where the best location for uh this this 247 operation would be located
within Titan. So we'll show you four snapshots of kind of a close area or and I'll explain how we analyze that. But again in the appendicy of the report we we looked at a lot of sites around
town. So, it's kind of interesting to see how we got there. And then lastly, you know, we we actually did some really good interesting design work at station two uh as well as this new undeveloped site to be determined.
So, that was our approach. So, I'm showing you this slide right here. This is a highle snapshot of the pro you know the resulting programming exercise we went through with the chief. So at the end of the day uh we're looking at a program area of around
18,500 square feet. That's without circulation. So there's a little bit of an increase as a result of that. So really we're just under 20,000 square feet and we'll be showing you that plan in a minute. But that's so that is based
upon these categories that we see here. You know the public interface administrative operation arm apparatus bays and support spaces sleeping quarters right whack rest and wellness don't have any of that in either station
today and back house support functionality. So, I just wanted to show you where we landed and then we're we're going to move in to look at the two existing locations right now. So, currently we're operating out of chief and his team are operating out of
two stations. If you haven't been to either one, I highly encourage you to go down meet the chief or one of his team members and have them give you a tour through the facility. So, they're both located here. So the the one on the southeastern edge is fire
station one, 300 Main Street. Never constructed to be a full-time fire service or firehouse. Then at the northeastern node, we see fire station 2. the original built or the building on the
left was the original horse and buggy fire service node at that point which you know has a lot of a lot of value I think from a community perspective and we we actually played around with that a fair amount as conceptually anyway at a
high level it's part of the study but so all in between these two facilities uh we're looking at 10,600 square feet so that's That's what the chief is working out of across these two sites today.
Start our 185. So, we'll zoom into station one location. Again, this southeastern edge here. You can see the lot area with the blue dash line. Uh a couple things about this site which made us pivot or or move
on relatively quickly uh because of some environmental considerations and those are the it's in a flood plane and then it's it's bound by weapons. There's also a hazardous site across the street. We don't have
any tests or no testing was available at the fire station location, but it's you know fairly likely that that that site might be continuing to not absolutely certain about that. But for those first two reasons alone and the building
itself is also deficient across the board in terms of code and what we would need today both from an accessibility architectural space needs approach but also systems
wise MEP systems etc. Here's a quick peek inside. These pictures do not do the space justice. Uh, but there is lots of overlapping functions here. I think I mentioned there's no there's no real sleeping area in here. So, as you can see, there's
Murphy beds and offices and sharing with the day room, which is also doubles as an office. Uh there's there's gear storage and overlapping in places that are are not really adequate. There's no proper decontam
decontamination flow through here. We have exercise equipment and storage rooms as well as you know more sleeping quarters etc. I'll also say that the apparatus storage bays here are undersized for the equipment that we
have and in fact the chief cannot keep all of his equipment under roof between the two locations. Fire station 2 again up at the northeastern edge. This is the one that we did uh want to entertain. uh just the
value of that older building was really intriguing to us and uh it's kind of a nice neighborhood here. So, as you can see, there's a couple diagrams at the base of of this uh image which shows a couple of strategies that we were looking at. Uh what we found though was
we were limited from a lot size perspective here, right? So, you know, you you folks had added on that double bay was 10 years ago. U but that's already compressed on size, too. So, in fact, you can't walk from
side to side when the doors are closed because there's just not enough room already within those facilities. So both of these schemes explored adding a third bay, you know, outside or to the right of
the the two bay apparatus area here. That's the most we could get while trying to optimize the remainder of the program on this site. And what you don't see here is there's certainly not enough room for parking, right? So at that
point in time, we were of directed to, okay, we've going to beat this up pretty good, at least to see what would fit, what won't fit. And then we moved on to future sites. >> Just before you leave, I just want to point out that
>> yeah, >> the the diagrams kind of reflect the current needs, but it doesn't also doesn't give you any room for any future expansion if you ever wanted to down the road. >> Well, that's a that's and that's that's a great point, John. Thank you for bringing that up because we do think about grow you know we we accommodate
growth right within uh what we lay out here but then there's always the you know we want to be sensitive economically as well but leave the door open for expansion so I'd say so that's that's the lens through which we looked at this with as well it's important
point thank Here's a quick peek at at some of the existing conditions. Again, encourage everyone to to stop by and say hi to the to the team down there or up there in this case. Uh you can see the structure on the the
older building um is deteriorating in various places with exposed rebar. uh again not code compliant at all on the inside from a program and operational perspective.
So yeah, I'm going to move on to the next piece. So here's a a little snapshot of what we were looking at from a response time analysis. And again, this is built straight from call data. Um, and we're
we use some software that really looks at your your street layout, densities, traffic lights, etc. So, the first two scenarios look at a single station, single 247 station. The the scenario three and four look at a a hybrid model,
which is most likely where, you know, we will end up anyway. But I will I will just add so that has both north and southern existing stations with that third piece being uh you know the ideal location for a 247
station. So actually scenario yes sir >> is it a third location plus the other two or just a new location in and eliminating stations one and two. So I I think that I think there's still value
in one and two and they could be used as substations like on call stations which is you know they're much more appropriate for that because they don't have the accommodations. So yeah we're looking this study is really looking at that new 247 station uh that does allow
them to operate effectively. Uh so but I will point out station two from a location perspective is really the ideal location and you can see so the green shading is indicative of a 4m minute response time window right so
it's a little misleading in that you have three stations here uh you're actually getting more uh response out of one station located here within that 4m minute window and that's because of the location with your street layout. Um,
all things considered, right over here is a little bit more remote. Um, so you're really not gaining a whole lot. So, at the time of the study, uh, we did look at all of your town owned assets and the availability of, you know, where
where could we put this? That's kind of close to scenario two, right? So at that time uh we couldn't find the right size parcel to to make that happen for the study. So we chose a a test site for the study so we could move it along at least
understand the you know the money behind the building itself and we captured kind of a worst case scenario with the site with this test fit site. So, as a team, we we actually selected one kind of close to scenario three, and
I'll show you that in just a second. Go the right way. 1850 Maple uh was our test site. What made this a good candidate? Other >> I'm sorry, Ralph. I got a text. Someone's trying to get on Zoom and they're I guess they need to be led in. >> Okay.
>> My My apologies. I just you know I'll go back. >> That's okay. That's okay. Yeah. X roll 10. Perfect. >> Yeah. So, a couple of things about the
site that made it a good candidate, you know, to try to capture the value. Anyway, uh it's it's an undeveloped site. It has no utilities. Actually has a uh wetlands, but what's what's the word? >> Potential perennial stream.
>> Perennial stream. You can see the red line coming down around here and that is a wetland buffer line. So, we were very sensitive to that. Um so, yeah. Anyways, the interesting that those were some of the pieces that the site offers from
early high level analytical perspective and as a placeholder, if you will. Um, and what we're really interested in u with a site like this as well is the road frontage. And we're going to zoom into the the site and show you how that
lays out because this really is all about access and response. Okay. So, with that, I'm going to hand it over to Ethan and he will walk us through. You got it. >> Thank you, Mark.
>> So, as Mark was just showing before, the test that we used, April 1850, um, is roughly a 15 acre site that the town owns right now. What we're seeing here is roughly only two to three acres needed to create this new facility.
um and working with the the chief and his staff, we kind of wanted to develop the most optimized new uh 247 response space we could uh in this scenario. And so you can see here on the left hand side, we sort of separated the apparatus space where all the trucks would be
housed in these double deep drive-thru bays, which is sort of trend we're seeing right now in in public safety world um for, you know, faster response times and shorter um resetting of of operations. And on the right hand side, see the employee parking area and
parking which is just in front of the main entrance. There's also a separate um employee entrance directly off the employee parking lot. And uh one thing to note as well, and we'll talk about that in a second, is the opportunity for growth. Should you know town need an
extra bay there is space to the left of this of this concept to that additional bay without you know major impact to the existing >> is this proposed lot is this a an existing um is this an area that is a
potential spot for this or is this just I know you use the term test area is it like hypothetical or is it potential >> so it's you know if we looked at those four scenarios it's not in The ideal >> optimal location in the town for response time
>> fairly close. >> So sounds like somebody needs to mute. >> I think I think someone just >> um >> Yeah, it is a Yeah, we use it as a test site. I think there's further investigation that should be done, you know, within town and, you know, we can
certainly assist with that time comes, but yeah, I think we want to be ideally you want to be over by that eastern edge for the best for the most optimal, >> right? >> But this is currently open at time. So
we just went ahead with this to show potential scenario should you want to go this >> and I will add if I may Ethan that you know a lot of what Ethan is walking through right now in terms of the some some of the design thinking is easily transferable and that's why you know I
mentioned the the road frontage is really one of the more important things as well as the site de >> is there an actual address for this 1850 >> 1850 So yeah, just to reiterate, uh this is a
roughly two to three acre site which would be needed to develop this which could be anywhere but this is the current building you're looking at with this uh current location. Um and so this is a you know a rough rendering of what this station could look like. Um it's not final. This is just quick study we
did. There's some other iterations you can see in the full study report in the appendex. Um but overall what we're looking at is trying to develop a building that sort of um respected the architecture and the you know typical colonial salt shed houses you see in the
in the neighborhood not feel so imposing. So we sort of hid the second story of this building and a dormer design for the sleeping quarters in the gabled roof. So that way sort of minimize the the height of the building um what it actually is.
So looking here is just sort of the overall layout of both floors. Here again on the left hand side is the first floor is the apparatus sports spaces. In the center is the lobby and public zones and training area. And on the right hand side is the office spaces. On the second
floor are the personal quarters um which have two deep breast stairs that can access the apparatus space from both both sides. So looking a little closer at the first floor uh this design um one of the
components that Mark mentioned too is is you know in the apparatus design we want to separate the hot zones and the cold zones. Hot zones being areas for decontamination after response um to remove any um materials off the equipment. And so we allowed for that to
be on the furthest edge of the building. So that way in the future should you want to add additional bay that would also allow you know the units to add their put their equipment in there for decontamination. And then on the right hand side of the apparatus bay is all the cold storage spaces and EMS support
rooms um with the medical center directly off the lobby space. In the center is the training room area um roughly um you know 1500 square feet which can be used for training and also for public meeting space um and would be used as
the town's emergency operations center in case of emergency. And then again on the right hand side are just the offices and chief chief spaces for for admin use. If you go back for a second, I just want
to point out that there is two separate entrances for public from the front and staff from the side. So, someone's coming in the front door. There's doors to the left and right that are all secured so they can't get into the apparatus bay or into the offices.
There's some security in there as well that four bathrooms necessary. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. four bathrooms necessary. >> So, we're showing uh two that would be used for the public. One on is in the
office space which is again John was just pointing out is a you know vaccade space for the admin space that public is not allowed into and then there's a fourth one that is used in the airport space. So, um you're not spreading
contamination between the spaces. Again this is a feasibility study. So this is not final design but this is just you know showing >> sort of you know optimized design for benefit for this the chief and his team as well as the public.
On the second floor is the personal space for the sleeping quarters. Uh in this design we have six rooms and one office room um which could be used as double rooms um double box and um to allow for future growth. And again
they're aligned along the southern edge of this building so that way there's easy access to both stairs for quick response times. And on the north end side there are the day room, kitchen spaces and the exercise room. Um, we also showed an opportunity to add an outdoor space that connects all those
communal areas. Um, and also in this design with the large gabled roof of we're able to, you know, hide the height of that building, we're also able to use it as a penthouse shield to hide any mechanical equipment on the second floor. So, you can see in
this rendering, um, mechanical space would be over here on the where the emblem is on the right hand side of the building. So this is just a quick snapshot looking at uh few towns in Massachusetts that are of similar size that have recently
built um fire departments. Um and you can see um we had a cost estimate done total cost was about 27 million which right in the between sort of the towns you see here
and again I think one thing to note the top one dates back from 2021 obviously as we're all aware prices have really escalated since then and with that I will mark one more detail.
>> Great. Thanks, Ethan. Yeah, I think the the other slide also kind of just uh it's a good check too in terms of where we ended with square footages and relationship to communities kind of similar to yours have been looking at
are doing. So, yeah, Ethan just kind of shared the where this project came in as a total project. If we back up, it's a little over 20 million for the direct construction cost and then soft cost which which include design fees. So
taking it from you know this high level study through a design process ops uh all of those things of items that would be captured in the middle number as well. Um those all get
that gets layered together and we're looking at about 27 today. Uh the good news is, you know, we're not looking to we're here to present the project, make everybody understand it, how it uh how
it came to be in terms of what Chief and his team are are working with today, and uh yeah, give a a realistic kind of perspective of what what an appropriate station like this would be.
So yeah, next steps more more investigation on that optimized kind of town owned site whether whether you already own it um or there's an acquisition of some sort or whatnot. In parallel to that is the
funding question that's probably going to come through a few different pathways. We we do have a consultant that we work with and specializes in that as well. And then of course design, right? It's
going to go through a actual design process that that will make it buildable essentially and a a bidable package and and construction. So this isn't a project that's going to happen next year or a year after that, right? This is
it's going to take a little time to to you know to get to to where we need to be but it's a good place to start is to understand you know kind of the task ahead or the need I should say. Yeah. So that's really it.
Happy to take any questions we have. >> Sure. How did you determine the 75 life year years of the life expectancy of this material selections that we're we're looking at, you know, the envelope, the systems,
etc. So, we like to look, you know, there's a range, right, depending. So, but that's really where we want to be is we don't want you so it's not a in insignificant amount of money. So yeah,
and I know it's too early, but the funding sources are uh sometimes tied in with how long a building is supposed to be built out for >> exactly and is that part of your study uh as far as that 75 years or is it just
too early for that? Oh, it's so we haven't dug into ourselves the different funding mechanisms and I think that's a you know becomes a bit of a deeper conversation probably the folks that >> left >> um but yeah we do do life cycle cost
analysis and right that's really what it comes down to >> you know you have the immediate upfront construction cost but then the operational costs right and that is something that we do consider even at this high level from a systems approach. This was like
if you read through the report, it is set up to be an all electric facility. >> Yep. >> So >> I saw the solar panels. >> Yep. And you can offset some of that load, right? Through that we can >> it will be explored more. >> Sure. >> I'll say that. Right. Depending upon
>> the ultimate end all site. So yeah, all of those things are considered to your point. And >> you know what the square footage cost was for the uh before the soft cost? >> Yeah, it's about it's 850, right? Which
is >> is the temperature of the market. >> Yeah. >> But you know what we're seeing is um >> you know the exterior climate I guess or societal climate with lots of shifting fundings here and there, taking away of
fundings in different areas has actually made the public safety market more competitive. >> Yeah. >> Certainly on the construction end. And that's what we're seeing out there today. >> Sure. >> Which is a a positive, right? In this case,
>> uh again, thank you for waiting. I know, like I said, it was tedious out here. >> Oh, definitely. >> But unfortunately, we had to do what we had to do. Um >> but uh great presentation. Thank you. I don't have anything else at this time.
>> No, I I I think it certainly for me at least it it gives me some good awareness of where we stand right now with the facilities and and the somewhat urgent need I guess. >> Yeah. Right. And I think you guys mentioned it earlier. Prices are not
going down. >> Um so those are buildings. You mentioned that there is someone on your team that looks at uh funding sources and Yes. is does that include looking at grants and and things of that nature. We here in the town we don't
have a full-time grant writer. Uh a town administrator looks at grants. There's other you know I'm sure the our fire department is looking at grants but that's something that I would be very interested in to absolutely see how that works. Um, you know, because,
>> you know, Ralph and I just had a conversation today on uh, you know, meeting with our legislators and having them come around town again and showing them our fire station and other parts of town and continuing their buy in, but having someone such as yourself and your
team that um, share some expertise that we might not have would be huge. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> So, um, do you guys do proposals for that? Is is that how that works? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um
>> if I if I may, one of the last meetings we had, we brought that up and um Mark, there's some um we met with the library team. They brought someone who they work with who has who deals with uh federal grants for rural fire uh fire
department. So, it's kind of funny. I had seen these grants pop up like two two days earlier and and they have someone associated with it. So, so you know as we move through the process uh
that's um that's someone they could have absolutely with. >> So as we move through what is the next step of the process would would it be that >> well the the next step of the process is like what right what is the what is the
will of the selectman in the community to um to move this to move this project forward. I think uh they they laid out the steps if this is something that we want to do. Uh you know it's it's good we need to identify the site
is this program we like do we move forward with it? Um do we do we look for a site? We have limited sites or uh that the town owns. Uh then we have to make the decision is do we want to use a town owned site or do we want to uh uh
purchase a site? Once we right once we um figure that part out then we go on to the funding site. Okay. >> For the most part funding will be uh you know we'll look at grant opportunities but probably be a mix of grant opportunities and a dead exclusion and
then design construction. >> Thank you. So, if I could just add like um when we went through the process, the EOC was added in there uh intentionally because there is grant opportunities for buildings that incorporate an EOC into
the structure. That's why the um training space, public meeting space was was also dubbed as a EOC area. So, that way that kind of a grant opportunity could be looked at if it's if it's available at that time. Um, the other thing I'd like to say just in the site
selection, you know, you you gentlemen are very familiar with the town obviously and the geographics of it. Um, our current fire stations, as you're aware, are on the eastern border of this town. Um, so when we have to service the west end of town, um, and our ambulance
is only service out of the southeast corner. When we're going to the northwest corner of Dyon up to Chestnut Street, North Street, Mand Lane, it's a considerable response time for an ambulance to get there. somebody who's having a heart attack, fell down their stairs, whatever it might be. So, we we
we really need to have our ambulance in a in a better geographic center uh location in the town to to better service our community. >> Okay. >> From William Street, how far down is 1850
>> on Maple Street? You know, >> it's it's about halfway down Maple Street. >> Halfway down >> approximately, right? Yes. Halfway between Williams and overro. >> Okay. >> Is that the property that we currently have some highway department storage? >> It's probably this location.
>> That's the one with the shade. >> That's the highway has some. >> Yeah. So, the only pieces that we we explored in the study were town owned apartments. >> Um, and there's very few. Uh, there's one that we looked at on Center Street.
Obviously, there's uh the old Briggs, which isn't a big enough lot. We looked at here at Town Hall. Um we looked at 1850. There's a couple of town own parcels on Tmont Street, but again, we're we're shifting to one end of the town again that so that we were kind of
lopsided again. And that's why um we ended up just going with the 1850 Maple Street site just as the worst case scenario in the um exploration of the the civil or side of things to say that
this has uh wetlands. It has all the bad the worst stuff that we could possibly come across if we if we chose a site. in your experience, um, I guess I'm not sure the best person to ask is, do you have to pick a site before you start looking at grant funding and
opportunities? Because I feel like if you know the funding available, that might influence the site and how much you might pay to acquire a site or keep a site that might not be optimal, but you know, depending on the funds available, we might, you know, use the
1850 maple versus if we had lots of grant funds available, we might acquire a site. Is that uh something that we can kind of look at? >> It can depends on the grant. Right. >> Um right. So there are
for and this is not for uh for fire service but let's say mass works has certain grants for for land acquisition. So we would have to look is are there land acquisition grants available for uh for fire service or for public safety?
There are grants again as I said in rural community uh um fire fire building there are there are grants for that. So so we I I haven't took we haven't taken a a deep enough look at it. We just sort
of went through this process first. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Any any other discussion? >> No. No. Thank you. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Thank you guys. So, um, just to wrap up this discussion, I think it would be nice if we could get
on a future agenda to have that discussion on funding and, um, and properties. >> Okay. Next we have on the agenda public input. Is there anyone here for public input?
>> I have something fun. You know that's tedious. >> So I'm the chairperson as you know the 250th anniversary committee. So this weekend we are having a play from the Dyke history players. They are middle
school kids. Um, Titan 1776, a vote for independence. And, uh, Zach Karen is the script writer, adapter, producer, director. And so, it's a retelling of the May 20th,
1776 meeting when Don voted for independence. Um, we have two shows, but the 2:00 show is already sold out. Free tickets and it's sold out. So, we do still have some openings at the six o'clock show. So, I
came to invite you to join us. It'll be fun. It's a lot of fun. Also, coming up, we have a couple of things coming up. Um, we'll be at the couch festival. We'll have a table there. We'll have a table at the strawberry festival. In June, the
library is hosting programs. June 9th, they have greetings from Breed Hill. And then June of July they have all Yankees all hands Yankee Whailing the US Navy and the Treasury Department.
Um June 13th is the Strawberry Festival from the historical society and also the historical society is um having a historic house and garden tour on June 27th and tickets are $25 for that and that goes to the society
of course. Um on August 18th, we're having the reading of the Declaration of Independence at the Community Church with the cemetery walk highlighting 10 to 12 of the Revolutionary War soldiers that are buried there. Last
year we did 13 soldiers that are buried there. I think there's about 36 in that cemetery. Um, and then of course in September, September 26th and 27th is our great big reenactment
and encampment at Woods Farm right here on 138. Um, we'll also be at the Lions Arts Festival and we'll be at the dedication of our Revolutionary War Veterans
Memorial podium. So, those are fun things that you can look forward to. Um, so I just wanted to invite you especially to the play. >> Can you give me the details on that again? You said >> the play six o'clock here >> on Saturday. >> Yep. On Saturday, you can uh register
through Eventbrite. Um, that's how we've been counting seats. Always invite half kids involved. It actually touches a whole group of people that might not reach out, you know, or come to something, you know, parents and kids. So, um, yeah, should
be fun. It is fun. The kids are awesome. Awesome. Cool. >> So, look for something fun to do besides money. >> Thank you for you and your committee's hard work honoring our 250. >> Oh, thank you. Thank you. It's been fun. Our meetings are much more fun. You
could come to our meetings if you wanted. >> Sounds great. Very nice. Any other public input, Mr. Ferry? I don't know if I'm as fun. >> It's that time of year. As you know, one of our biggest events for the D Lions is
is coming up really quick. Um, our Lions Club has been very involved in our own community. Always has been. We branched out a little bit over the winter. We're exploring uh a feasibility study for this whole complex starting off with the bleaches. uh over the winter also we
joined with this whole district for mental illness for the youth in that hospital down in Plymouth that's where Dublin has a capacity there that's very important because that's everyone has someone in their hand struggles with
that I'm sure anyways historically I don't know if you've been coached but usually right after the election we seek the newly elected sleptman to help judge on the coucher festival if you're available. >> You don't have to answer today, >> but if you can get back to me, I don't
have your contact. >> Judging what exactly? >> What What is What is the uh >> kind of like he did already tonight? You got to >> Thank you. >> So, it's the the cow tip actually
>> cow tip >> couch ship cow ship cow ship. Okay. >> Okay. Uh that that actually happens Saturday afternoon. >> Okay. >> Yeah. But it's a three-day festival and that's one of our largest fundraisers for the year. >> Okay. >> We are doing an arts festival here later
this year. Um that one's getting a lot of momentum too, but right now the cow tip is the largest event. Um the stage is quite full already too. And we got the school of rock band Friday night. Um your times
there at 2 o'clock. The goat ropers. Not sure what that is. >> Country. >> Country. >> Country band. Great band. >> I hope so. And um we also have the chicken barbecue later
Saturday afternoon. Tickets. You need tickets for the chicken barbecue this Saturday. The tickets I have them. They're also on sale to the general public at the under the sun. So that's that's what I have to share tonight. So do >> you have any extras of those this is that a flyer? >> Yes.
Oh, festival time was going to be here. >> Yeah. >> And um I know we took a break last year for reasons, but um all the way from the parking lot down is what you were thinking again. >> Uh we'll be utilizing the whole complex.
>> Yeah. Oh, across the street as well or across the street, but >> Yes. um when we needed to take a break, we're flirting around with 100 vendors, >> right? >> That we didn't have room at the current previous location. >> Yep. >> So, obviously we have room here. Um we
are going to start here like you're saying, work away that way. We'll probably move the band this way. That's not all set in stage stone yet because we got to assess electric availability and stuff like that. >> Okay. >> And it may be uh staging food trucks also to help draw the crowd also. >> Yeah.
Um the podium when is that coming in for uh the veterans. I know it's kind of your subject right now, but >> it's in I incarcerated it at the Harry Garage. >> Okay. >> It's in a safe location where it's not going to get bumped.
>> Um after Memorial Day sometime during as we'll mount the foundation. >> Yep. >> So that way there um when we get closer to Veterans Day for the unveiling, we can just set the volume on the foundation. >> Okay, good. And uh how much were the tickets for the barbecue? >> Uh they're 18.
>> 18. >> You need somebody to judge that as well? I'd be happy to uh test the menu. >> If there's any other questions, if not, no, I'm all set. >> Thank you for your hard work and and for uh for doing this year after year. Makes unique for sure. You know, puts us on
the map. >> Thanks, guys. Good night. >> Any anyone on Zoom for public input? All righty. Uh, selectman's report. Any any reports? >> Um, I would simply say that I did uh
tender my resignation to the open space committee, but I did express my interest to them for for being a liaison and they would certainly accept that. Appreciate it. >> Okay. Awesome. So hopefully we get that
on a future agenda. Yes. >> Great. Um, all right. I don't have one. It's time administrators report. >> The um the only thing is on June 3rd, Wednesday, June 3rd, we're going to have the joint meeting with the Berkeley
selectment to discuss the I uh the intermunicipal agreements for the animal control officer and for the health agency. So, I just want to make you guys aware of that. 6 6 PM I'll be sending you obviously updates uh uh 6 PM and
we're going to have it on neutral ground. We're going to have it at Bristol. So >> cool. That's it. That's all I have for now. >> Thank you. Uh so next we have review discuss approve and sign the annual town
meeting warrants. Any um any motions to that effect? >> I'll make that motion. >> All right, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> All right, we'll second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I >> I motion carries. Uh we have a facilities request for the board of
health farmers market. Ralph, any um >> any update on that? >> They they have a paper in place. They have a I think I spoke with Liz. They have about right now 12 vendors for the first one. Mhm. >> So, it will be on a Sunday
um a Sunday late late morning probably. >> I noticed Liz has her information as contact. Is she running it? >> Uh the health department is Yeah. Initial point. >> Yes. >> Is there a date for them?
>> Yeah, there were dates 5:17 on 2 p.m. Oh, >> okay. looking at the door. >> Uh I make a motion to reprove approve the request for the uh farmers market. >> All right, we have a motion. Is there a
second? >> Absolutely. Yes, sir. >> All right, motion and second. Any discussion? All in favor? >> I >> I motion carries the ratification of the clerical contract. We will table to a future meeting. If uh there's any
motions to do so, >> I'll make motion approved. >> All right, we have a motion. Is there a second? >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I >> I. Motion carries. And approval of the warrants. >> Okay, we have three uh dates to approve
warrants paid by April 30th, 2026. 44 A-26 for $126,68051. 44 Z-26 $106,5449 44 C-26 $4562.77 Warrants paid by May 7th 2026 44 A-26
$130,3351 44 45B-26 $718,699.70 and 45 C-26 667,152.74. And last but not least, uh wants from May 14th 46 A-26 $144,738.85
46B-26 $139,7812 and 46 C-263,350,477.50. Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? I will second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? I >> I. Motion carries. Next, we have some
correspondence. One from Paul Reynolds. He is um presiding from the conservation commission. I'm not going to read it, but I will say thank you to Paul for his
hard work and conservation commission. So, we actually have a resation from Laura Armstrong for the elderly and disabled tax fund. >> She's resigning from >> Yes.
Thank you to war for your hard work on that committee. It's been too many resignations lately. >> It has. Our town officials are certainly spread thin with all the different boards and committees that they're on. Um, is there
any other public input tonight? And is there any motions to adjurnn? >> Make that motion. >> All right. Is there a second? >> I have a second. >> All in favor? I. Good night.