How you doing? I see you got reinforcements today, huh? Got reinforcements. Yes. There's wisdom in numbers. There you go. Okay. I want to open the Dyke Conservation
Commission public meeting Thursday uh May 15, 2025. This meeting is video and audio recorder for cable broadcast and internet hosting and YouTube. Would
everyone rise please? I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to theublic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. First on the agenda is a welcome to our
new associate member, Robert Burmer, who was sworn in this uh this week. Um on a chairman's note uh I had asked uh people who are interested in the American chestnut trees
u to let us know and uh those of you that have informed the commission of your desire for them you will be called sometime within the next week. The trees are ready for distribution. Many of them
are about a foot high. Okay. On the agenda, uh, we have to review, discuss, act. It's a continued hearing. It's a notice of intent application from Carl Fello of
Bel Farms Estates LLC at Milk Zero Milk Street and Zero Council Way, Map 17, lots 109, 135, and 208 for the construction of a 26 lot subdivision with associated uh roadway and
infrastructure. file number SE17-520 and Weston and Samson provided a peer review. Um uh yes, so we do have a peer review, but um Belfarm Estates has requested a continuance to our next meeting June
26th if anybody's here for that one. Okay. So, they're asking for a continuence because they want to go over the peer review documentation, correct? Is there a motion to uh continue this
hearing to uh June 26? You said yes. Okay. So, moved. Second. All in favor? I Uh, next on the agenda is to review, discuss, act to continued hearings. It's a notice of intent application from
Frank Luongo to construct a driveway to access a single residential home along with a point source discharge from a storm water basin at Zero Horton Street. Map 10, lot 28. A portion of the work falls in the jurisdiction of the
wetland. Uh, file number SE 17521. Okay. I haven't seen you in some time. I have not been in front of this board in a minute. No. Uh, attorney Robert Frederick's. I'm here for the Langos. Uh, basically, just so you understand the history of the project, I
represented the Langos when they went through the zoning board. Uh, we got all of our approvals there. At this point in time, this is the forme a lot that pre-existed. It had the wetlands in the front portion of the property. Um, I apologize. I wasn't here at the last
hearing. Um, but the long story short is my understanding is that you were looking for comment from other departments. I have a letter from the fire department and I believe I was I was CCed on the emails and it spoke to both the board of health and the uh highway department. My understanding is
from all of the reviews of all the departments, no one has any comment. Um I would note that the the way that the driveways were done in this case was done in consultation with the abutters at the zoning board. In other words, they wanted to really preserve the
nature and character integrity of the the uh neighborhood. So we we tried to do the best we could in trying to to do this and put the houses where we did. you know, our initial concern is, you know, it's a long driveway and the fire department uh uh does need that uh
access and turn around and that's really what we were waiting on. I I have a letter here. I don't know if it was previously submitted. I just wanted to read it to the commission received it on the 5th. I believe I forwarded it to you as well, but um so have these drawings
been changed to include this change? Okay. So basically um from Chief Mai um good afternoon in my review of the driver provided by the agent. I am requesting that the turnaround be moved. The turnaround needs to stop 40 ft away
from the garage and the 40 ft in depth. This is to provide a turn for our largest piece of apparatus ladder one. I have spoken with Niles to relay this request and Naz copy. I have no other issues or concerns. So the driveway is drawn on proided. Should you have any
questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. So between that and the highways, we're all set. Unless anybody else has Yeah. You guys have any questions? You came here to show us the
design or uh Yeah, I was here just in case you needed to. Okay. Yeah, they revised the plan. Okay. Did you want to take a look at it? I'm looking at it from here and and I and I can see that uh where it had been moved
and the turn around. So this uh this was this is the 40 ft that uh the chief had mentioned and then this is 40 ft in depth and 20 foot wide. So that's what he was uh what is the width of the dry
16 ft. That's right. Okay. And then then the burm on either not the well the drop off on either side. Yeah. is a swale. There's a swale control, right? I I recalled that from our last meeting. So, the shoulder of either side of the
driveway is like what? Gravel on either side or grass. Okay, even better. Anyone have any questions? Okay, I will entertain a mo a motion to issue an honor of conditions, an
acceptance and an honor of conditions for this project. So moved. Second. Any discussion then? Oh yeah. Yeah. Any any further discussion from the public? All in favor?
Niles, can I get a copy of that final one, please? A paper copy. Yeah, you definitely have. I have one. All right. It's in the in the pile. No, then I don't need one if I already have one. Thank you. Uh, next is a review discuss act review. A notice of
attachation from TNA Trust [Music] Almeia Ranch residential subdivision to construct roadway infiltration basins associated
grading and utilities at zero William Street map 21 lot 20. The portion of the work falls within the 100 foot buffer zone include the boarding vegetated wetland file number uh SE17
522 and Weston and Samson has been engaged for peer review. Is there anyone here to address uh Lisa, is there uh is there any notice from them on uh that you have for us? Uh
Elme Ridge subdivision. Um they provided the funds and we received a continuance today. So they provided the funds for the peer review consultant. Okay. So Weston and Samson will be doing the peer review and so
this will need a continuence until uh June 26. Okay. Is there a motion? Motion to continue till June 26, 2025. Second.
Second. Okay. Um all in favor I Okay. Next is review, discuss, act on a new hearing, a notice of intent application from the Gibbs properties to raise existing condemned house, home and
structures, remove existing payment, build a new two family dwelling with new uh title five septic system, utilities and site grading within 200 feet of the Tata River and within land subject to coastal
flooding. Um we do do not have a file number as of yet for this property. [Music] I'm going to have Yeah, I have um Jack, you want to I
got I have I have my copies here. Okay. All right. Oh, we do have a file number. Okay. How we doing, Mark? Um, I have to recuse myself, too. Okay. For the public's
information, the file number is SE17525. Good evening. Everyone see the map. We all have our maps here. Good evening. Mark Mariano with Oakill Engineering 368 FU Avenue in Hobith Mass. Tonight I'm representing Gibbs
Properties for a notice of intent to um construct a two family home on 2120 Water Street. Uh the current property is a condemned dwelling. Um as Lisa uh had
not or as you had noted um the property does have some riparian zone that touches the property and it's also uh land subject to flooding. It's in a coastal flood zone. Um what we're proposing to do is to raise the existing dwelling, remove existing buminous
pavement found on the property um and actually any other pavement that's found on the property and to remove the existing structures found on the property. um the associated work that will fall within the 200 foot riparian zone. So the the riparian zone that
we're talking about is the Taton River. Um flood elevation here is 12 or 14 in. Um so the the the building does uh
need to be built in accordance to flood standards. The um utilities that will be happening closest to the riparian zone will be um new water connections and a disconnection of the existing water service. Uh all the work is not there is
no work that's found within the 100 foot riparian zone. Everything's within the 100 to 200 foot zone. Um the in the in the rear of the property uh way in the back there's a ball field.
Is that uh the wetland there? Uh where are you? Uh so we're we're over 100 ft from from that wet land that's associated behind that that property on that ball field. So it goes our property ball fields
the outfield of the ball field and then wet and then you'll see the the delineated line of wetlands. No, I've been there so I I'm just asking you. Yeah. No, we we we didn't we don't have any BVW that would be uh falling within this site or BVW buffer zone that would
be falling into this site. Um so starting from from the roadway, the site utilities as we discussed uh the whole site will be protected with erosion controls. Uh we did show two entry points that will have track pads uh to
reduce any muds that would come into the roadway. Um the the site as we had said is um we we're minimizing all grades around the site. Uh the only areas that are raised is associated with the title 5
system. Groundwater found in this particular site is 24 in from from grade. So we do have to bring the site up specifically for the title 5 system. But this is also replacing a cesspool that's found on the current site. Now, is this a a regular uh septic tank and
leech field? It's not one of those uh Suzuki systems. No. Yeah, it's a conventional system. It's a conventional system and um it's a uh it's a two compartment septic tank. Um Okay. And it's a stone and pipe
leeing field. So, it's a pretty standard system. Okay. Um, and the elevation, what's the elevation of the dwelling? So, the the the floor elevation for the slab, it's going to be
a slab on grade structure. So, the slab is found at uh 7.5. Um, now you have to raise the structure, correct? Then the wood structure, yes, has to go up. So, there's going to be um wood framing that would extend it to the first floor deck
that would put you out of the flood zone. So, so you you have to be how high above the uh the dwelling portion has to be how high above the uh cement uh foundation. So, um flood you can see.
So, what the way we have this house set up is that you would have knee walls that would circulate around the perimeter of the property. perimeter of the dwelling. Once you reach the back wall, that's actually where you would have a full height wall. So that wall is acting as a retaining for the septic and
would also that's where you would put your sill and start building your frame up from there. So that's elevation 15. So essentially looking at it from the front, it's almost like a walkout basement uh when you're looking at it from the street. And in the back you would have uh a full height wall.
So, it's a it's when you think about it, it's a walk out house that's done in reverse. You're walking out the front rather than the back. What you're saying, it's And how how much is the elevation? 15. Top of the top of the foundation. Yeah.
Is is uh elevation 15. Um the slab is at 7.5. existing grade in the street is um six. Flood elevation is 14. So the garage is essentially would be a
wash through. Exactly. Yes. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Yep. So you're basically going to allow the garage and the first floor to flood and then all utilities and everything would be on the second floor. Okay. That's seems to be rather standard now
in flood zones. Yeah. So, let me get this straight. If it's a seven foot or 7.5 foot grade from the road, that's elevation. So, so NAVD8 driveway is going to be on an angle. It
Yeah, you're probably going to be um from the road to the house is about a foot differential. Okay. So, the road is roughly 6 ft elevation. Yeah, they're at six six to six and a half depending upon where you're at on the road.
So you're going to be almost at road level just six inches higher about a foot higher. Yeah. Is that doesn't it flood over there though? That's the slam. Yeah. So we're trying to minimize any sort of flood that would happen happen or additional material that would need to come in to for that because if
if it floods over there and you disturb all that won't that wash away? No. No. Oh, so we're in a in a um in a in a velocity zone. We're in a still water zone. So it it's the evidence of water coming up, but you don't have
velocity that would create the scour. No, it's No, it's open for water to go in and out. So, are you set with your presentation? Yep, we'll open it up.
Um, do we have a motion? And I would for a motion to accept the project issue conditions. I'll make that motion. Is there a second? I'll second it. Okay.
We're looking for input uh from any of the audience. I think then let us vote then. All in favor? just presentation. Okay. All right. We have we have we have
Okay, you're all set to go. Thank you. Bill, I think I stole your seat. I was I was right here. Oh, okay. I'll let you outside. I'm sorry. Lisa, I think I'll let her wait a minute and
um as the audience has seen uh two uh our agent and one member reclus himself from uh this to prevent any conflict of interest. on this last item. Okay. Uh next on the
agenda is to review discuss act. It's a a new hearing. It's a notice of tent application uh from 0 Elm Street LLC at 2231 Elm Street, map 20, lot
84-4 to construct a storage building with associated drainage, parking lot, grading, and landscape. A portion of the work falls within the buffer zone to a BVW file number SE17523. Weston and Samson has been
engaged for peer review and at this time I will excuse myself. Um Paul, would you uh take over? Oh, sure. [Applause] 0. All right. All right. So, this is a
notice of intent application from 0 Elm Street LLC at 2231 Elm Street, map 20, lot 84-4 to construct a storage building with associated drainage, parking lot, trading, and landscaping. A portion of the work falls within the buffer zone to
a BBW. Mass DP file number SE017-0523. Wesson and Samson has been engaged for peer review. Good evening. Uh for the record, my name is Nile Zera from Zenith Consulting Engineers. Um so what you see before you
this is a property located at 2231 uh in Dyon 21 31 Elm Street in Don. It's map 20 lot 84-4. Um it's the property is approximately 27.8 acres in size and it lies within the industrial district
zoning district within uh the town of Dyon. Um this property is not located and within any flood zones. It's not located within any natural heritage endangered species areas. It is not located within an area of critical environmental concern. It's not located
within an outstanding resource water or RW. It's not with located within any zone 2s or zone A's um to a water resource protection district. So there's really there's no um other than the wetland on site, there's no um overlays
that we have to be concerned with. the wetland line that you see before you. This is the edition. Just so everyone can see, this is Elm Street here. You got Marian AB here and Esther Brook. I apologize if I
spelled that. I pronounced that wrong. And then you got Hillrest Drive here. Um and this this is our property here. So this whole line, this is all the wetland lines. All attached area is the wetland line. that line um was issued in ORAD, an order of resource area delineation by
the by your commission um under D file number 17-473. Um and this line is valid without extension um up to January 5th of next year, 2026. So the line that you see on this plan is
valid. Um the topography, the existing topography on the site ranges from elevation 130 down to 30. So there's about a 100 foot elevation change on on the property from one side to the other. Uh so this proposal flip to the next sheet it has.
So, this proposal is for the construction of a 7200 square f foot um storage building. The building is uh the dimensions of the building are 60 uh by 120. Um the building is going to be on a slab. Um and it has four parking spaces which
we've depicted in the rear of the uh building there. Um it has 30 foot access uh pavement around the entire building which is required for you know just be for the for the people to get around for the for the owners to get around and for it also
provides for adequate uh fire access as well. Um the helps if I could read my writing. Um this this proposal it from what you're seeing here is almost an exact replica
of the a building that we permitted um a year or so ago in front of the commission in front of the planner board. It's the exact same size building exact exact same same layout. It's constructed um it's onsite. It was done on it's a byight use um in because as as
I said stated this is in the industrial zone. Um so this is a byight use in that in that district. This property as I said it's about 20 almost 28 acres in size. So the significant amount of area on the property but if anyone has driven by the site and has seen the storage
building that's there now um that my client constructed this will be almost exactly the same thing that you see there. um just basically upgradient upgradient of it. Um there is a storm water basin uh located on the downgradient side here
which is being which was designed to handle the 100red-year storm event um and capture all the storm water all the uh pavement from the roof um and pavement um to be able to manage that storm water and you know discharge it in a manner that won't flood out um you
know any of the downgrading areas. erosion control plan has been provided. I won't bore you with all the details of it unless you want me to, but um essentially this plan has been provided
um um with with multiple different things to try to minimize impact during construction as well as post construction because that's our goal. During construction, you want to ensure that there's not going to be any impacts and post construction. You want to make sure it's stabilized properly and that
it's going to function the way it's designed. We have uh for during construction uh we have a um construction entrance pad which is located at the entrance of the access drive into the site. Um we've provided a
detail uh for that up in here and essentially what it is it's just rip wrap um the width of the access way and it goes out 50 ft and it's basically just to knock the dirt off the tires and the for the construction vehicles going in and out. Um, we provided silt sock
silt, excuse me, silt sacks in the catch basins. Um, that's during construction to while it's not stabilized, you want to ensure that there's not we're trying to minimize any silt that's going to be getting out and going into the storm water basin. Um, so those silt sacks are put in that catch basin to capture that
area and it's cleaned out as necessary um until the site's fully stabilized. um silt sock for erosion control measures has been provided um along the down gradient sides of the limited work. Um that's a that's the same exact thing
that we used on the site just south of this you know just downg gradient of it. The majority of the work that you see on this property is outside the 100 foot buffer. Almost the entire building um the only work that's really located within the buffer zone.
Um back to the sheets. a little bit more of a blow up. The 100 foot buffer is here. So you can see basically it's a very small section of the building portions of the pavement, the parking area and really almost none of
the storm water basin and just some grading. Uh no work is proposed within the 25 ft no touch. Um the building is located about 75 ft from the wetland. Um so we tried to minimize the impact as much as possible in this area. There was
because the there is this one section of the wet one that does come up um you know on the site that's why it's a little bit closer but again we were still able to maintain that 25 foot no touch um and try to minimize that impact. Um, I know that the commission in the past has like the uh the excuse
me the conservation signs uh placed which we can were obviously amendable to that whatever the commission would like if you if you see fit. Um, we do understand that this has to go this is still going to go in front of the planning board for review. Um, and this
still has to be reviewed by your consultant Weston Samson. So tonight was really more just about a discuss it with the board, get you get you familiar, you know, familiar with the project, open it up to the public and discuss any concerns that may be and um try to
address those concerns and come back to you when we have a review letter that we can address and come back to you with a plan that everyone is um in agreement with. So I'd be happy to answer any questions that you have. Um to get it started, could I ask when you do come back, would it be possible to us some
maps that we could look at up here. It's It's kind of difficult to see. Oh, of course. Yeah, absolutely. I thought you had uh Yeah, we probably have them, but they're probably in a box in the office. Okay. Okay, understood. No worries. And there'll be updated plans. I'm sure there's going to be some revisions that
need to be made. Um so we'll we'll obviously get those to you anyway. Uh for sure. Yeah, of course. To the commission for any questions. the back left corner. You're closest to the wetlands right there. Correct. Yes.
The uh which way is the ground going? Which way is the water going to be flowing from the building? Uh so the build well so actually so the building itself so this all this area here is going to be getting captured in touch basins and then into this for bay and then into the storm water basin here and
then it's going to we have overflow um that goes out to the wetland here. for anything over a 100 year storm event. Um but all that area is being captured but it would be relatively clean by the time it got out there and this is to answer your question. So what's happening is um the the grade
from the sightes we did have to build it up because of the slopes. You build it up. It slopes down towards the wetland but then it runs um perpendicular to the to the slope here. So, it's going to actually keep coming down and it's going to get captured into this swale um
that's on the back side of the existing building that's there. Swale all the way down. That's Well, it's it's essentially going to act like a swale. Is that exactly from one end of the building to the other? That's correct. Yes, sir. So one question that I do have is at the um selective meeting last night um there
was a representative from I believe the geocche discussing the dam because this is this is nearbrook on elm headed towards the dam and the reservoir. Correct. Yes. So one of the the questions that I had is that some of Gioex's work with the dam is that it
appears that um this is water infiltration underneath the dam. And so one of my questions or concerns I guess early is that clearing a site that large and changing the grade and installing black things like that changing the way
that that water is running. I'm wondering if there might be any implications there and if maybe that's something that Samson might want to consider. Um just wondering putting this home water is going to divert of course. Yeah. No, and that's a good question and yeah, I would
hope that you know I would understand that Western Sam that's one of the the big things that they have to look at is the storm water controls and make sure that it's in compliance with D storm water management. Um, our biggest concern as well as the design engineer is to ensure that it's it's it's working properly and designed properly um
because we have to ensure that there's no impacts to any downstream you know downstream areas um and that we won't cause any you know flooding. So the the idea is is that you have to take the existing conditions and compare it to the post condition. You cannot have an increase offsite. So that's what we
believe we've modeled and done. Um, again, that's why you hire Weston and Samson, just like you said. And, um, you know, whatever if they have, you know, concerns or things for us to address, we'll do that. And hopefully at the next meeting, we'll come back to you with a set of plans that, um, we'll address
their concerns. and as well as if there's any concerns by any butters and or the planning board because again we do have to go in front of the plan but I don't know exact the exact date of that meeting but I know it's going to be before uh the next hearing that uh the commission has. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Any
other questions or comments from the commission? I'll open it up to the audience. Is everybody attending tonight? Why such a large area the same size on the street? I'm sorry. You've cleared you cleared a
tremendous area there, right? Are you saying right now already? Yeah. There's going to be more that's going to be cleared. There's going to be more that's going to be cleared. Yes. You cleared the whole forest that was there. um building you say this this building is going to be the same size as the one
installed. That is correct. Which is probably not even a quarter of the area that's been cleared. Are you talking about the real upside? Yeah. No, that that's not part of this project. That's not part of this site right now. That's not it's going to
border Elm Street and Es. So here's I can't barely see that. No, no. Yeah, understood. So just so you can see this is I get an idea of where this is moving. Understood. So this is Marian out here. Okay. That's Marian. So we're we're down slope of Marian. Okay. So
yeah, this is this what happens is this pinches in this wetland. So this is the wetland line that comes in pinches in here. Um and the site. So this building is actually So you're going to be basically Oh yeah. toward the new development. That's what I'm trying just trying to
get a visual. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. So yeah. It's all in South T. So it is what it is. You know, I can show you. Let me see if I have a sheet that. Yeah. So, so Esther Brook is pretty much in line with Hillrest, right? Yeah. So,
our site here, this proposal is here. Okay. In relation, this whole area has been cleared. This area here is was Yeah. A lot of that was already cleared and then they did clear a little bit more. Just want to get a visual to where this is going to lie. That's a good question. impact is going to be on the neighborhood. Yes. Because there's a lot
of houses built there now that weren't there 20 years ago. You know, it's going to impact those property values. And I'm just trying to get a visual here of it. So, you're basically going to be down the hill for that. That's correct. All right. Yeah. And essentially, I I think I stated this at the LA at the meeting
for the first building. Mr. Eman, uh, Don Eman from Eman Plumbing, he's the owner of the property. Essentially, what he does is he uses these buildings for he's a large I didn't know if he would answer. I just want to know what's going to be stored. So, what he does, he's a large plumbing supply company and what
he does is he has these bays and he creates per job. He creates areas for his jobs. This nightmare of tractor trailers coming up and down the road at all hours of day and night. No, no, no. This site's not even he doesn't use tractor trailers. It's not he uses
because it's contract road truck traffic, all that. He uses the you know those smaller box trucks. Um that's what he uses for his, you know, for his work. Like I said, understand it's all from industrial industrial. It is what it is. Excuse me. Um that's a that's not a conservation matter. So if you want to
planning boards, I would suggest go to a process. No, but I suggest to get some information. You should go to the planning board meeting and address them with that concern. Yes. Yeah. So if so everyone can see as well.
So, it kind of almost like I said, it's pretty much exactly as a replica. So, this is the proposal here, which is kind of center of the property. Um, and again, this does slope way down. The the building that they just constructed is here. So, it's going to be up by
Hillrest. That That's correct. Yeah. Hill Marian is here. Hillrest is way down here. Well, I shouldn't say way down here. It's actually I bought the whole propert. Yeah, Hillrest is way further away. There's still a significant amount of area from there. I still don't
understand why they didn't put it all. Sorry. Can you say your name and address for the record for the woman taking the minutes? Matthew, 260. Thank you. Yes, sir. Can you say your name and address?
22 32 street right there. So this is my property right there. So it's really adjustment to whatever will be done here. So uh this is the white land and my question to because they said this I will go to the town planning after
discuss this. I try to in touch with a zero but no one never got back to me and so on. So I would really want like to know exactly what they are doing there because I would like to find out what are the implication to the neighbors that I am because I'm a
neighbor right here. So I would like to learn and understand better what is doing knowing that this is the wet land how can be the implication to someone like me who that this is the property can there be any concern downstream you
know for someone like me who is right here and I'm the closest neighbor because I'm 22 32 you guys are 2231 so uh and I am on County Street and you guys are on M but you guys can see that my property is very very close to
this and I really want to know what is going on here, what is going on. [Music] Yeah. Again, so so if your property is here, sir, um this is you you probably that the work is probably close
to 1,200 ft almost a quarter of a mile away from the back of your property. And everything as far as uh the water flow, everything starts up that low crest drive which this is the high point and slopes this hill significantly. So
nothing's being discharged to your property at all. There's a significant buffer in between all the building. So this building that we're proposing if you look it's on here on the plane. This is just a blow up of it. So this wetland
right here that you see is here which is significantly far away from where you are. Not to take your time because on my property here. It looks like there's a drainage that is going up like this that uh came from here and from here that
goes like this and they were supposed to I think the city have all that in that drainage goes somewhere around here even with the national grid drainage also goes through here what is it downream
and so so what I really want to know is to know much about what you guys are doing really contact me also because I to contact ZLM to get more information to learn because personally I want to learn I know how things are going and then before I can give thank you sir. So
so what I can say uh to you to everybody tonight is that at our future meeting uh we try to just discuss again it will have gone through peer review for west and Samson. So we will have some comments from them which um their team will have the opportunity to address and
um so we have some known unknowns of course you know clearing a site that's on a steep grade um you know there are there are questions that and Samson will have that um that this gentleman will have the opportunity to answer and provide more information on. That being
said, does anybody have any more specific questions uh pertaining to wetlands or storm water or conservation issues tonight? Thank you. Anything else from the commission? I have a question. Do you mind if I go from his property down into
there to see how everything flows? Oh, do you want to site? We can request a site visit. I'd like to start around his area to see what he's talking about with the drainage going down because I know what he's talking about because the backyards all of a sudden become flooded
when there's too much water piling up in one area. There's a fair bit of wetlands, but yeah, it's a big site. Bob, are you referring to this gentleman's? Yes. So, would you be willing to leave your contact information? I have your email. Yeah, you Yeah. Oh,
perfect. Thank you. Well, I did respond. Yeah, because I'd like to walk on the side of your property and see how the water's going, see if it's almost level, see if it's what kind of grade that is going down, and then see where it's
going from there. So, I I get you concerned. You don't want the backyard to be flooded out because now more space is being taken up where water normally would be. Thank you so much. Are you look for continuence tonight? I I would I would be. Yes, sir. Can we set
up a site visit with you or should we just Can you just let them know that we're going to do a site visit? You don't have to be there. Yeah. No, I mean, you're not going to be reviewing anything as far. There's not going to be anything unless you requested something to be staked up. I think it's pretty easily to easy to tell where everything is out there right now. Um, you know,
we're not reviewing any wet line or anything like that. So, yeah, I I would say just um you have permission to go on the site um you know, during the process. So, so we'll set up a site visit at the end or do you want to set it up now? We can set it up at the end of the meeting and
then just agree to I wouldn't mind taking a walk. Okay. And just seeing what's over there. Sounds good. Thank you. And um so as we discuss the continuence, I do realize now I apologize if this was discussed when I wasn't here yet. I am realizing that the third Thursday of next month is the
Junth federal holiday. Oh no, we're the 26th. 26th. Oh, we're doing the 26th. Okay. All right. Perfect. You had already changed. That's right. Okay. Perfect. That's right. That's right. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. Uh so now if there's no further questions or comments, I would like to entertain a motion to continue this
meeting to the meeting on June 26th. So moved. I'll seconded. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? I I Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you, Niles. Oh yeah. Next in the agenda is to review, discuss, act on a new hearing. It's a notice of intent from Kevin and Alexandre Messier at 921 William Street,
map 8, lot 18-2 to con to construct an approximate 22x32 studio complete with utilities, sidewalk, and landscaping. A portion of the work falls within the buffer zone to the bordering vegetated wetland. Mass D
file number 17-524. Uh Jim, they requested a continuance. Um I'm not sure if you saw the email, but they're looking to add a deck. They want to kind of instead of wait and file another for the deck in the pool. Y they want to put it all on one. Add it all
in. Well, that's that's the best. When I was out there and she was talking about a pool and she said, "What about this?" I said, "Why don't you just add it to this?" Okay, that's the best way to do it. Get it all done at once rather than two different filings. Right. Okay. I'm
looking for a motion to continue. All in favor? Um, we have a request from Mr. Zagar to take 1070 Smith Street out of order under enforcement. Um, we could do that now or after the certificate of
compliance or if you guys are amendable. Uh, would you say Smith Street, 1070 Smith? Yeah. Okay. Well, let's do the certificate of compliance and then we'll uh go to that one. Okay. Um, okay. Lisa, you have the uh you've been
to 833. Uh, yes, I have. Uh, that's William Street. They're requesting a certificate of compliance for work done file number 17-514 and everything is in order. Yeah. So they had um they did they have the
built for the septic system. They put the posts and placards in. We're waiting for the grass the lawn to establish to make sure Well, that's not going to take long in this weather. Yeah. And then um we're also waiting for now the area the 6,000 square feet or so of disturbance
from the parks to be restored. So I suggested he file for partial he still with the partial and then he's going to come request for next month to get the final once the grass is okay. Uh is there a motion to give a partial
certificate of compliance? So move second. Any discussion? All in favor? I um Mr. Chairman, if you're a member, I'd like to propose a motion to take 1070 Smith Street under enforcement out of
order. Uh okay. So, uh is there a second to that? Second. All in favor? Sorry. Okay, we're on to uh 10. Okay. Um
Okay. Uh 1070 Smith Street. It's a wetland violation with a follow-up letter uh sent out on 1230 Zenith Consulting. uh uh contacted Lisa that they're working on a filing coming to us soon. Agent observed earthwork on the
property at 57. Agent emailed owner consultant on 57 uh to stop work. [Music] Um what has been done is enforcement audit has been has been issued and uh
what is necessary by the commission is to ratify the enforcement order by the commission as a whole. Is there a motion to ratify the
Enforcement order. So move second. All in favor? Okay. Uh what I will do is I will send this around to be signed as well. Okay, we're going to go back to our our normal um County Street. No, Niles is
here to present for them. Oh, okay. It's okay. No, it's okay. Um on 10 107. Yes, sir. Okay. Yes, sir. Uh for the record again, Niles from Zenith Consulting Engineers. Um, and then also I just wanted to give the commission an update
and kind of talk about I do have um the owner here um uh of the property as well in case there's any questions that she needs to address. Um but essentially we've been working on so we had Steven uh go out there and flag the wetland.
We've done a survey um of the property and we were ready to start working on a filing and then Lisa brought up a concern about vernal pools on the property. Um there's nothing mapped. There's nothing even but she did have
concerns about it and Steve is going out there next week to go take a look at it. Um he hasn't had a chance to get out there yet. So the reason why we haven't filed anything is because obviously that has a major impact on the property and what they can be done and what can't be
done. Um so we have to really demonstrate or you know figure out and determine what's on site first um for the resource areas so that way we can come before you with a you know remediation and or proposed plan. So that's that's the reason for um you know
why we're at where we're at. Um, but it was my understanding that uh the client my client uh had some uh loom delivered on the property in the front yard. Um to plant new grass and um so that's that
was the reasoning for the work. Um you know I'm not sure the concern whether where the commission is with that if it's something that they should just remove the material. Um I know that they wanted to just stabilize the area and move forward with it. I think they were under the impression that they could move forward and it was obviously
brought to their attention that they couldn't um because of the outstanding issues on site. Um the outstanding issues were more towards the back of the site. Uh there was tree clearing done um which again we've we've got located on the plan. However, um you know, I I
don't know they understood the um the impacts of bringing the material on site to do the work that they were doing um because it was an existing, you know, existing area, landscaped area. Um so, I guess for me to be able to better consult with my client and understand
the concerns, I I'd like to just I wanted to be upfront about where we're at with things. And obviously we're willing to work with you um and do what we have to do to get this in compliance, but that was the reason for the work. Um and I'd be happy to discuss, you know, with any questions that you have or
concerns or suggestions, whatever it may be. Um I have a question. Um, so the part of the original plan when we discussed it on on site was that you guys were going to be doing some
landscaping in the front yard and redo the driveway and everything like that which is all in the buffer zone to the wetland whether there's a vernal pool or not. So I just wanted to make sure that you understood that if you're redesigning right now our biggest
concern my my house. Every day it rains, there's water going in the basement. So, you're just prolonging this project. So, last night it rained. We can't dig because that's also we want to propose that we can't dig around our house because it's in the buffer zone. So, last night you had an inch of water in
the basement cuz now we're doing this one pool and again it's in that buffer zone. So, we cannot even touch our house. Well, it's not that you can't touch a house. In fact, you can this stuff. This wasn't an issue when you were there the first time. You
claimed about the trees that were dead. Okay, so let's back up. When I went there the first time, I know Dave was with me, we looked at the tree clearing, which is all in the vernal buffer zone, and we looked at the potential vernal pools. I do know Steve when he flagged
it, he said that he was wondering if they were voy to see if they would dry up or not. Yeah, he I think what he stated was and I did talk to him about it. He didn't think that it would because there was a pipe um in it that was draining. Um so
he didn't know if it would be, but he couldn't say for sure. It's on you guys to tell us that it isn't. I have um I know I have an associate member that lives in the area that says that that whole area is hopping with frogs. So I you know whether it is my granddaughter
and I have not seen a frog there. I go there every day. my 16month old granddaughter. That's why we put seed because she can't play in the backyard cuz it's a danger and there's also like a dead tree in your bucket zone that either is going to fall on the house.
Get it in as soon as but I can't because we're on this pool now. We're trying 100 ft of his yard which we want to like make it look nice that we didn't touch in 15 years and we've done any landscaping. I put a lot of money into that house and
the house looks hideous because of the yard because I'm waiting for this farm pool. We are still trying. So, we're trying to get Steve on board to to make that determination. As you know, that is obviously, you know, I mean, I know the commission there is was existing landscape there. So, I know there's some
work that can be done um and we can work within that, but we still need to determine what because as I I uh spoke to my client about is the you know, there is the 100 foot buffer, but if it's a vernal pool, it's really a significant impact to the site. Um so,
you know, I made them aware of that and told them we're still trying to analyze that and make that determination. So, that's I think the frustration. Um she didn't realize that this was a concern at the beginning. Um and now it is. Um, and and again, I get it and it is it's part of your bylaw, so it's something we
have to contend with and deal with. Um, so we're just still working through that and um, you know, hopefully we can come to a conclusion and some sort of an agreement. Okay, Niles, you uh are well aware of our bylaws and and what we
stand for and how we try to help people out as well. Yes, sir. I mean, if you come up with, you know, do your observation, uh, protect that, uh, rental pool as much as you can and give them a decent
yard with within the limits of of what can be done with with the considering the wetlands and the vernal pool because vernal pools are are rather sacred with the commission. Yep. Understood. and um you know for their wildlife and you know
and I think that uh uh we could be uh uh happy but you got to come up with something and and then we could maybe if you get it to Lisa we can all view it ahead of time and maybe get it approved on the 26th. Yeah, understood. It's the
26th of June by the way. I saw your to know that we plan on putting a lot of vegetation back in to the property. There's like a lot of dead Whoever had the house 15 years ago really didn't do any work. So, we want to put some trees
up so it creates some like privacy and brings back, you know, back into the environment. Um, he's here's the man to help you out. Yes. Thank you. And and you know, and he he knows us as far as how we want to help people as well while
protecting the environment. Oh, absolutely. I mean I mean we're not out here to to uh be gang busters with with um but there is a pipe that drains. Okay. Um right across where this pool that she's speaking about. If you go on the other side of the street there's a a
pipe that is literally about this high above the ground and my son's property is down here. So it drains down. Excuse me. That all that water comes from the Gant River. That whole other side where Loops is and all that, all that water
has come through here forever. And that whole front all the way down that road, that whole front is all water. Has been forever. And I I've been there for 16 years. Right now, if you go to the front of my son's driveway, there's no water
there. Well, there is. Right where he put the gravel, he just dropped a load of gravel two two weeks ago right into the wetlands. Um, there's an 18-wheeler load of gravel he just put there right on the side of the brand new garage that he has. It's a brand new garage. Garage
has been there for 20 something years. Not that. Yes, it is. Yes. I did not construct a garage. I went back in the aerials and there's been there's been three structures there from the beginning. So, I know that there's not a new garage, but there is
new siding on a garage. That's fine. Yeah, that was fine. So basically what what we need Niles to do is work with them to figure out obviously they had a law a lawn a small lawn and you want to
expand it. So wherever you want to have a landscaped area you have to you have to show us on a plan and file a notice of intent and wherever you want to have a paved area or or um patio.
We know this. We just need to discuss this pool because I 100 ft 125 ft out of a property that I bought. That's a lot of land to loss because we want to put grass out there. He says that if it comes 125 ft, I can't even plant
grass. So, I don't want to look at a forest. What's bringing the cases that was probably put the house on the market? But that that rental food was there. But that was never in any maps that I picked up on conservation. I went to pick up maps that wasn't on there. I
picked up building steps because nothing ever showed that that side was wetlands or one pools or nothing. I don't have the map from the day I bought the property. All this is leading to the house on the market. Yes. Then you have
a Yeah. Well, this is what it's bringing to and you have a stream on the other side. I called the highway department to come and fix the Jersey barrier and that's still not fixed. So you have a stream on the other side that comes up from the lots up top and those I know that that's the map that I have which is
dry. There's not we don't go by that mapping. That mapping is not accurate. Niles will tell you that stream empties out all the lots up on top where the power lines are and everything and it comes all the way down through um where Steve Adams lives. You know
that 22 acres lands. It goes all the way down through there into the the cabin. Yeah. It goes into the culvic. Yeah. Sreans river. It goes right into the Sarraansit River. So whatever happens there like the back hose and stuff that are up on the hill any oil
that comes out of there or whatever is going into that stream is going down to the river. Make the decision with the run pool see if I can get the house decent and just I think what we'd like to do what I'd like to do if possible Mr. Chair is um you know even if so if say we accept
it being a vernal pool that that may not affect what they want to do. They may still be within their limits to do what they want to do. is if we could meet with the agent, myself and my client, meet with the agent and go over a solution. I was trying to make sure that the resource areas were shown properly
on the plan. That's my job, right? As as you know, and I want to present an accurate, you know, plan to you and that's what I'm supposed to do because it's especially where, you know, you have such a, you know, uh, you know, you have your bylaw is so much more stringent than what the wetlands
wetlands act is, which is understood. So the idea was I wanted to make sure we knew it was a vernal pool and not a vernal pool so I could better direct them as to where to go but maybe we can say all right well here's my plan. I actually sat down with Lisa I don't know was probably a couple months ago month and a month or so ago and we were going
to start discussing it and this is when the vernal pool issue came up and that's why I've been waiting to do an analysis on it uh with the wetland scientist. So that's what's been kind of holding it up. Maybe what we can do is sit down go over exactly what we want to do. maybe that whether it's a vernal pool or not. Even if we just say, "Yep, it's a vernal
pool. We'll protect it, right? And we can stay within the limits, then none of that matters and they everyone is happy, everyone gets what they want." Um, that's probably I think probably the best way to go to try to speed this along for everyone. Yeah. Um, I I like
the game plan that you'reing a lot and I think that once we do we're able to have that conversation, you're able to sit with Lisa. Um, I think that that will give us what we need to know in order to find out the way to protect the resources that were statutoily required to while also trying to maximize the use
and enjoyment of your property. Yeah. Okay. Can excuse me. Can we put at least a where they dump they just dumped a load of gravel right erosion control. Can we at least put a waddle or something around that load? Yeah. So, where the dirt was dropped? Yeah. It's a
dirt, not gravel. Is it lom? Was it gravel? It's all rocky. It's actually rocky, but most of it is lom. But what they're what So, what they're asking get that. I can get it done tomorrow. Yeah. What what they're asking for is like a silk sock. You can just
lay it out. Yeah. We could just lay it out and uh put it around it just to protect. They're just what they are concerned with especially with all the rain um coming. They just want to make sure that it's protected, you know. That's fine. I can get tomorrow. Yeah. So, we'll I'll I'll discuss that.
A positive direction to get this thing solved. And so, we'll be see you'll be talking to Lisa and uh uh somebody else here about you'll be going through Lisa and uh we'll see you next month. Yes, sir. Absolutely. Thank you for working with us and have a great night. Okay.
Very good. Thank you. Okay. Uh we're going to go back to the agenda at uh we got uh 2371 County Street May 26. It's June 26. Just signing out.
All right. Have a good night. Thank you for your help. Okay. County Street. Hello. How are you? You didn't bring us iced coffee. I feel like we've, you know, we should have breakfast and tea or something.
No tea, no nothing. Not even a bourbon. So, uh, County Street latest update is, uh, we're waiting for some rain. Well, we were supposed to start this past week, but the rain's just been
non-stop. Um, you know, I have a machine that's waiting to go there, but he doesn't want to slide down into the uh the gully. Okay. Well, thank you for the update. So, there's your update. We we know we're in the process of getting it corrected.
Yeah. I That's the positive part. We got a the plan has been approved and it's going to get done. Yeah. We're just waiting for some uh weather to break. That's all. Okay. All right. Um while Okay. While we're there, how about we do
Can we not skip over? Before we skip over, are you going to notify us when you have the erosion controls up so we can go inspect them? Great. Yep. I'll let you know whether or not to bring boots. All right. Thank you. Okay. Um, while
you're still up here, shall we, uh, skip to 880 Hot Street? Motion to take 880 Hot Street out of order. Second. All in favor? I. Okay. 880 Hot Street. Yeah.
Okay. I know. I I've I've seen this on online. Um that's going to be eliminated and the cows will be over here and Okay. You had a couple questions from us. Um tracks
about the There's no new tree cutting in the new area, the new cow zone, right? That is correct. It's going up to the edge of the flags that are out there right now. Okay. And Lisa sent you something on some kind of markers and
how it was to bend and Yeah. Uh I noticed it was a pretty fat crayon though. Um so um you're looking to do some plackets coming around uh near the old uh BVW
closer to the 25 foot from there running down along the front and up and through where the uh uh cow pen is. Uh correct? Correct. Okay. So, um, we we don't have an issue with doing that at the 25 ft in
those areas. Um, and then the BVW flag is basically going to be the, uh, the backside of the corral for the the cowpin. So, uh, to me, putting, uh, anything there, the the cows may chomp
on or whatever, and I really don't want to do that, if you know what I mean. You mean no in that area? Yeah. At inside the cowpen. Yeah. Oh, no. No. Yeah. Out with the on the outside of the cow pen towards the front. That's what we had
agreed to anyway at the site. Now, the old cow pen that's going to get removed. Now, I don't know. Was there stuff dropped in there that needs to be cleaned or not? Well, when that gets removed, you know, we'll we'll probably
rake it out or whatnot and then uh it'll go from there. And then should see it in fast. Uh yeah. And then once the 25 foot is posted around there, he'll know what he has left in that area. Okay. So now,
okay, just just nothing really to deal with conservation as such, but I know you have electric fence on the old pan. I assume you're going to have that one here, too. Yeah. Yeah. We'll move it over to the new one for their own
protection. that that be uh tubed however it's to be done rather than Yeah. No, we actually on the plan we have a conduit that runs out to it. No, I I'm just looking at for their own personal protection from that because having a a cord where a cow can step on
it and break it. Uh we're going to up the voltage so powerful. Okay. I'm just I'm just you know I mean sometimes you know we're looking we're looked at as adversaries but the only code that ran out there was to water
heater when the winter time. Okay. All right. Okay. You know and and yet in most cases was outside the fence. No way for the cause of All right. Well, I'm just uh uh in in a way looking out for your own protection too.
Okay. I see everything looks pretty good. John, could you clarify um the tree line that's on here? Yeah. So, that tree line is the actual tree line that's out there. All right. Yeah. And then do you need to cut any trees to
add the He said no. No. He said no. Okay. The post and the Where are you going to stop? So, we're going to come around from the cow pen and we're going to come down the uh right side of the and loop up and around. Um, and then you're going to
teach the cows to read so they see the signs. Now you sound like Tom Ferry. You're going to you're going to stop here. You going to continue on? No, I don't want placids on here because what's going to happen is the cows are going to get Exactly. So, they're going to go from
here and it's going to go this way. Touch the fence. Really? That's good to know. Are you all set with this plan? No, I'm not fully I'm not totally. So the one of the issues that is out there as well is his uh uh the leech
field for the septic. So when we outside though Yeah. Well, when we go out there to mark everything out, we just that line may move somewhat out there. Okay. But that's that's basically one of the
uh issues at hand. Do we know what a secondary leech field is proposed? Uh well it's an older system and we don't exactly know where well this this so I mean but there are you know as with
any septic system um if we move it closer to the house we may have to do a wall on on one side and uh get relief problem as of yet. No, as of yet, but you know. Yeah. No, I I and I follow there's always future
concerns with that as we all know. Okay. Well, the house is not moving in they go to Yeah. So, okay. Is uh the Are we all set here with
Is there a motion to accept the plan? So, I'll second. You have any questions? Yes. Anyone in the audience have questions? This is okay. Uh all in favor of
accepting this plan. I I Okay. Thank you, John. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. What is your timetable on this roughly? Shouldn't be shouldn't be all that long.
No, we're going to get a little bit more rain. Not as much as we did yesterday, though. Almost an inch. Almost an inch. Okay. Uh 2470 Pleasant Street.
Uh 2470 Pleasant Street. Uh Lisa, you Oh, yeah. So, we did receive an email. Okay. Uh for Mr. Vot, he said he's working with Outback Engineering and I forwarded it to you guys. Um so we're making progress. Uh
they're coming up with a mitigation plan for the fill that was put in there. Okay. Uh 710 Center Street, uh violation, uh cutting and clearing on conservation restricted land. Yeah. you know, um, we
haven't heard anything. Hey, it looked like he planted some trees out back out back. I thought I saw that, too. You know, my neck's been bothering me, so I try not to look too much. Right by like he's got
um, you know what I mean? Wire around them and they look like I wish you'd just call me back and tell me, but I'll stop by and say hi. Yeah, you should. You know, you're probably friends with them anyways. Well, I mean
enough that as long as I've got a placket and it says I'm from the conservation committee, I don't have a problem. Yeah, we need to get you a badge. Didn't I give you one? You gave me one of those things to put the button on the dash. Yeah.
Okay. All right. Um piece of paper, right? 10:30 Oak Street, map 6, lot 27. Abel has a report on that one. Yeah, 10 10:30 Oak. I went by there today and uh they've done a pretty nice job of
cleaning up and uh the the contractor was working on the septic at the time and uh he he had a rock in the middle there that he had to remove. So I I think they did a pretty good job. Socks are all in place. The
slab in the back has been removed. Okay. Cleaned up nicely. Yeah. even even some of the stuff down the side uh down the right side. And uh he had placed a lot of the the rocks that he dug up along that edge, which I
thought was pretty nice. Made the place look neat. I mean, an amazing job on on the landscape itself, you know, all there was a lot of little stuff. They got a little Yeah. Oh, most of it. Anyhow.
Okay. Uh 2134 Horton Street. Um so I think uh Bob's gonna recuse himself for this one. Uh no discussion from Bob because he's working on that one. But um I think that's that's going
to be forthcoming any time now. Yeah. Uh I saw him uh a week or so ago and he says he's been so busy he hasn't requested a certificate of compliance yet. Um are um
this is the goats, right? No. Oh. Oh, wrong wrong one. Okay. Um right. So, this one is uh the the mulch pile. Uh that's going to be removed very shortly is what I'm told. So, Steven's going to keep me in the
loop um as far as the restoration plan that he submitted. So, okay. One that you guys of wood chips. You guys approved that last meeting. Okay. 260 Country Hill Drive
start. Okay. Well, okay. There really wasn't too much that you really had to do. You don't Okay. You have a plan. Okay. Thank you. Yep. Yeah, we just just want to make sure
we're on the same page from the meeting. That's all. So, yeah, I can go through it if you guys would like. Um, well, you know, when Lisa and I were there, we uh uh Dave hadn't a huge huge amount, but
Go ahead. I'll let you speak. No, sorry. I just um yes, we had the site visit on uh 55 a couple Mondays ago. Um as we talked about, right, where you get that tree line. So everything north of that, we'll remove what was put there. Um once it all that material is removed, we'll
seat it. You're going to just send us what the Oh, yeah. the the mixes. Uhhuh. Um and then our eventual plan is to put Green Giants on the east side of the property. And then where so in the back there they'll eventually be a fence from like the
corner the back corner of the back right corner of our house towards the property towards our neighbors on our east. Green giants along the east side of the property line. And then where that you know tree line is, we plan put some green giants there. Lisa mentioned maybe a dog wood or two to kind of whatever.
Yeah. Give it some color. The native Yeah. You know, that's all we But yeah, I think that would be nice, right? So, that's that's the plan. Okay. Yeah. I um you know what we discussed and everything, you got it here and we're
good to go. Okay. You're good to go. Okay. All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you. I can send you that email right now, actually. Uh 6 62 Somerset Avenue. I don't believe he's here. He's not
here. Um I did speak with him on the phone, Ricky, yesterday. Um told him that, you know, there was there was also concerns about the work he was doing on his property and it was about two feet that
that went in, right? We're talking about uh 260 and county and uh or country hill, I should say. And that's the back property, isn't it? To to Country Hill. Yeah. Oh, yeah. All
right. I know. I know what you're talking about. It was only about an intrusion of maybe two feet. No, I'm talking about the unders story that he had cut. Oh, okay. Now you're dealing with him directly. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Two. Yeah. Not 260. It's um
662 Somerset Avenue. Well, 260 was Country Hill and Somerset Avenue is 662, right? Okay. So, uh he did ask me if I could recommend some aquatic plants for the pond and I said I could work with
him on it. He said he could plant some trees and I said mainly, you know, you you you took away the understory. So, it sounds like he's willing to work with us on it. I thought maybe he'd come tonight, but um Okay. He has been calling me back, which is great. Okay.
Well, if you give him some, uh, you know, yeah, plants to do and and certainly for that area where it's wet, high bush blueberries is always one of them. Yeah. Sweet pepper bush would probably take off out there. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. That'd be the end of story for the wildlife. Okay. 2365 Elm Street. Thank you very much. Hi, good afternoon. So, um I think last time you met with my husband, obviously you know
Alita, but I came. I'm the boss of the house. I just had a I I I just had a hyerectomy, so I couldn't come last time, but I'm here today. Um, so I know that, um, we live at 2365 Elm Street. Um, we purchased the home 3
years ago. It's a new build. It was built back in 2016. Uh, it's right on side of the water tanks way up in that hill. Um, and my husband, um, which I have right here, um, I think was about a
year after, so 2022 we bought the house. We had um a tree fall in our liner $13,000 later. Had to replace the liner. Um couple months into buying the home. After that, my husband in the fall time
started to push back trees and remove them because they were hanging over my property. Um well, it is my property, but they were hanging over the fence that we have there. So, um then hanging over the pool. They were hanging over the pool and they were just hang,000.
Yeah, it cost $13,000. So after that, he tried to remove some with our little John Deere backho, but that was not going to work. So we hired um Recetti Construction. They came down and um which was in 2023, September 14th, 2023.
And right here I have here, Recetti Construction was hired by Augustine Almeida of 2365 Elm Street, Mass for removal of trees on his property. resetti construction excavated and removed approximately 16 trees, most of which were hanging over the back fence in the backyard onto the grass area of
the property. A lot of these trees had no blooms and were rotten. One tree was broke currently broken and fell into Mr. Almeida's yard next to a swing set located to the left of the backyard. Looking looking out the front of the how do you put it? looking at the front of the house's view towards the water tank.
Another tree was broken and half of the tree was laying on top of the shed located to the right of the backyard. Three trees were to the left of the property were hanging and leading onto trees that were still standing. These trees were removed and were stacked at the owner's request to be used as firewood. The total amount of the
service was $3,600 that was paid to Reetti Construction LLC by Augustino Almea and I can Okay. Okay, Lisa, you uh cited a a violation. Well, I did not write anything up. Um
so, basically, uh Mr. Amida was um applied for a is it a barn or pull barn? It's a 10x10 pool barn. We applied for it to put our animals on. Um and I know you had came out and you seen some visitation to the left towards where the
water tank was. And um I know you had I wasn't there. Um you had conversation with my husband and he explained we're down the way our property sits we're at the highest peak of Dyon. So we're like this so water flows down our property and the way that property is it goes down to the right. So she requested that
we get the soil tested um to identify wetlands which we did um and they came back. It is not wetlands. It is due to the trapped water and ledge um that surrounds our property. property is swung with lead that is
trapped water sitting there surges up and it disappears. Yeah. So by like summertime it disappears. I mean you can even see where my my property is like at the highest elevation of Dyon. So prior to um I actually spoke to the original
engineer um of the property and he um also gave me the site plans that he originally had and he said, "Oh yeah, I remember that build. It was Mike. Uh he was a four river cop. He says, um, I just told he was there's no wet las yet. I told him to put some swaddles in
though on the side of the property so he doesn't get his property flooded when the water runs down. So, um, long story short, he provided me with that. There is swaddles there. Not swaddles, uh, swelles on the side of the property. But
can you tell me where they took the holes? The what? Where they put the right next to where you asked them to where you seen vegetation. That was the only area there was visitation and I believe Dave there was out there with you. I can show you a video as well that
we have in the phone. So, um I'm sorry. What am I looking at a video of the of the property and of where you're looking at? I pulled up your soils where I thought they were. That's why I'm wondering where they pulled up. Yeah. But did you test them soils? You never did test them
soil. Did you test them? He tested them to have them. Are you going to question whether I Man, we paid to have it tested. It's there. Okay. But here's the problem. I did know exactly what it was. Um I'm going to show you exactly because
that that was I think there was that is the entire property. Everything was tested. The tested the entire You can look at it. It says right there. This is the first time I've seen the entire back area was evaluated. It is trapped water.
It's trapped water. But what what describes the skunk cabbage in the American? He says it right there. He describes it as because there's trapped water. I'm glad you guys did this, but I was just wondering where they pulled the samples from because I where you guys
want to build it. The soils look like this, but below it to the north, the soils are gray. I have photographs. No, there is I That is the entire Nope. The entire thing was Let's get Is there a problem
where they want to put their shed? No, the problem is that they cleared a wetland and Clear the buffer zone. No, we didn't clear a wetland or the buffer zone. There is no wet land. It's identified. It's there's no wet land, sir. There's impossible like it's
impossible for there to be wet land. Why is it impossible? Because of where you're saying there's wet land. The water is draining down here. I am at the highest peak of Dy. There's water tanks right there. If that's the case, they couldn't put the water tank there because now the water tanks Yes. by the
tower like near Hillrest Drive and up just past Ebola. Yeah. Elm Street. Yep. It's a new It's a new bill house. 2016. The water tower is like so many feet. One and I can show you. Yeah. So, are you next to it? You know how many houses? I I know the water tower very
well. There's two water. Is there a bas? Okay. Yeah. So, do And then also I brought this because I knew there was a complaint about that. I can't the the soil that was in our driveway and you said it was going to
the only thing I questioned was what was he doing in the front yard because you have a driveway like this and I just asked you what he was doing and he said he was planting seed along the driveway which is great and we planted trees stabilization is great so as far as it's
a 10 by 10 area it literally is 10 by 10 it's not a big barn I paid taxes for all that land it was never It's drained. It's subtract water. Literally in the summer time, it's bone dry. And it even even the environmental
clean. They looked at it. These are the same things. There's no way that it trap water. You can see if you turn a hose on, you'll watch the water just flow into that area because the way that the the property slopes is like this and it goes like this.
So, there is a basin there that's full of like different wetland emer from I can I can I actually have a video of it I'll show it to close it's it's well regardless it's north of your fence I
don't but I'm going to show it just so they can see what I'm talking about because it's it's become qu close the bond that you want to go to. So the bond the 15 the reason is is because they clear 30,000 square ft of woodland on their
property including partially a wetland. Wow. Yeah. There's more to the story. No, but that's what you have. All right. So you got your bond. You're all set with that. No, I don't have a bond. She stopped the permit. She's stopping it. I can't go build it. We can't go build it.
My It was for my son's birthday present. She can maybe shut it down. I put it on hold because I found the It's for kids. This is for kids. But it's more than It's more than the I don't know where they tested the soils. Oh my god. Call that ma'am. I I told you that you came
to my house. I said if you have if you think this is if you think this is wetlands, I said to you, you go, you're a scientist. Test it. I said to you, I said test the soil. What did you say? You stopped. Stop. That gentleman was there. You stopped all pissed off. You didn't test the soil. You didn't take with you.
Mrs. [Music] Washington take it down a notch. Calm it down a little bit. I was maybe right. Can I speak so that our woman that's doing the minutes has something tight?
That's the coffee right there. So when we were walking down to the car, we were ready to be down to the side on that. It's a It can go anywhere. It's a 10 by 10. She's talking about a 15 or 15 byt. It can go anywhere. I just need to get
my hand out. I'll put up a little 10 by 10. I'm not building a building. I'm not putting a foundation in. Okay. I don't think it's I don't think it's a building that she's concerned about. I just think it's a little section that you cleared pretty much anywhere
under the reason I got upset. Jim, I want to be able to listen to the reason I saw it. Okay, let's check. Did you see it over here? No, I did. So basically what happened was he wanted
me to prove to him that there was a wetland and I told him that even if I got my auger and showed me wasn't what he was looking at but I went over and I dug a plug and it was completely gray which is a layer. Do you have a
picture of it that you can provide to me because I do I can I can do that. I showed it to your husband was also American. I don't know why he would say it wouldn't be a because it has to be
50%. It has to be dominant. But you cleared all the vegetation. That's But no, no, no. You You just said you've seen it. You seen the vegetation. You said, now you're saying it got cleared. You said you seen it. Mr. Chair, may I make a Sure. Go ahead. Thank you. So, it
it seems to me like we've got two separate things that are not necessarily connected together, right? So we've got the the 10 x 10 that you want to put up. Um and that's what she's stopped. So based on what we're looking at. So the
two separate things. We've got the 10 x 10 and then we've got the presence of some hybrid soils and some obligate species. Right? So if they notice those there's some I'm not saying that that you've got some expensive wetland. I haven't been there. It's not fair for me to say. But if we examine the soils and
their hybrid soils and there are wetland species, there's at least that. So you have that. However, that to me does not preclude you have being able to put up a polar. It looks like you've got the space. So I think that maybe we could
look at these things peace meal. Look at them as I I agree with what you're saying. I was going to say the same thing. You got things to plant something. I'm all about Listen, I'm not I'm not your enemy. I'm all about Okay,
he calls me crazy cuz I have plants everywhere in my house. I love plants. I'll put that as a whole. I'll hold plants. I don't care. Not that my hands going to eat where it's going to be poisonous to them. But I have no problem with that. What got me so upset here today was the fact that I couldn't put that. My mouth was so dry. I could not
put that full bottle for my son who was like looking forward to that for his birthday and I had to shut that down. I was a surprise gift and it was like heartbreaking and that's what was like you have to understand what we're seeing. So we're seeing a permit being applied for and then when you go out to
the site to look at the area it's all gone. Yeah. Because we don't look at wetlands and we don't protect them. They're all going to just go. So Lisa is not trying to she believe me she's not your enemy. But if there's a little tiny piece there she has to look into it
further. We don't recognize. We're not saying you did anything under a bylaw. Yeah. We just need to look at most towns don't have that, but we do. And I understand that and I and I respect that and I we say my mouth was so Oh, thank you.
Lisa, is it is it is it is it possible just to be recorded, please? Let's reveate that area, Lisa. Lisa, so why don't we just do that? Let me say go ahead with the shed. If you were to go there with with one of
us, I'll go and then say, "Okay, do do you have a definitive location where the shed has to be or can it be put in the gym?" Anywhere. I just can't I so every time I got to meet somebody, I got to come back. I'm lost. twice
already for this like this is crazy. I will put it anywhere and it will not be next to whatever soil she's stating is there. Okay, it will be anywhere and I had told him that. I said there was no reason why we couldn't figure out where it goes. But the problem is we already have to deal with I didn't know if the
wetland went extended. Did it go to the north but there some trees still? I don't know what. Okay. All right. By cutting by cutting all the trees, uh, you did yourself a disservice because it's harder to to read. Um, okay. So,
let's Lisa will go out there with others and and say, "Okay, it's okay to put your shed anywhere in this area here, but we have to maybe protect a certain area." What are you referring to? So, when you
walk into my Go to the area to the left. So you see the vegetation the lower area to the north near your fence near that basin. Yes, you're talking about that area right here. And I know exactly what you're talking about. That's where those pictures is over here.
Watch out for your hand. Now you're getting a gift. Thank you, dear. It's coming all the way up to the right corner of the Oh, see so much better. Listen, I'm not yelling. I Wait a
minute. We're here to to protect the wetlands and to permit you to have your shed in an area that will keep the wetlands protected. Going to be I promise you that is going to be like it's going the other side. You guys are
unbelievable. that area. Just just condition appropriate sighting. Yeah. Okay. Um we'll be coming by and I who the we are Lisa will be one of them. Why don't we
come? Are you around Tuesday? Can we come by? You I mean we can't keep postpulling this boy. I I got to build this thing. You can't keep post My kids are like freaking out. I mean how much? It's been um over a month. pretty soon. I mean, this is I can't I know, but I can't take
any. You don't have to. Okay. I mean, you know what the spot that you talked about, right? All right. 150 ft away, I can put it in the top corner. I'll put in the top corner. You know exactly where. So, I think I you know, he knows where you you were there. But if it's if
it's anywhere half on the side to the to the south, to the right. That's it. Done. That's where I'll put it. Done. That's where I'll put it. Done. It's like for me to keep leaving work. I mean, done. But this back and forth thing going, gentlemen. I'm putting four
posts in the ground 2 ft deep. This is what we're talking about. Four post in the ground 2 ft deep. Now, I do construction for a living. I dig every day. I see soils. I'm I'm surrounded in ledge. Uh rolling on this. Now, we have to talk about the tree and
the um So, what are we going to do? Let's let's let's get them building with their with their barn or shed whatever it is first and when uh is it okay for us to access
if you want if you want me to plant over there where the vegetation is where the the swing set is. So we we maintain like a 25 foot strip. Yeah. I'm not saying you have to completely tree it but it was treed before but the reason why that
came out and it's right there that That that big hole right there where you seen it fell over. That tree was rotting and it fell over it. And if you have children, you don't want them to know. The trees were mostly dead in that lot. All right. All right. We're going to work with you and for
you. So, can you come to the next meeting in June 26 so we can figure out a plan for the trees? June 20. I can't promise. I'm going to I will try. I mean, I have three kids. I have to do my schedule like but I will promise. But I'm telling you right now, if you're talking about that area, I
will Okay, let let's let's approve the building uh their give approval for the construction of the I just get an email from you that shows me where you want to put the shed and then I will sign off on an email that says that you're going to
do the right. I'll send you the email right now over here. I just can't wait. She's a lot easier than me. I'm telling you. I say I'm not playing no trees. I won't play no trees. I'm telling you. I won't play no trees. I won't play no trees. You
want to play trees? You playing trees. You playing trees. You do what you're told. Come. I'm not playing trees. I'm not playing trees. Not playing trees. No, that looks like tell him. I'm going to send you an email right now. It's
going to the right of my property. All in the right corner of my property. It's going to be way now. If you were here for the very beginning of the meeting, if you're here at the very beginning, we'll give them to you. Okay. I'm not
playing. We'll give you chestnut trees. Ledge. Okay. Trees on ledge. All right. That's why the trees are all dead cuz it's on ledge. Let's go. You mean my mouth? Let's go. All right. In the meantime, we'll reach out to you. We'll get a time to go over there. We'll get
you the birthday present and Okay. So, we're good to start building then. Yes. Okay. Yeah. My kids will be very happy and my ghost as well because I don't know if you follow the page, they were out on the loose because I couldn't put smile. Okay. Smile. Smile. I've been
doing this my whole life. You should have sent your last time. Okay, we're moving on. 26. Thank god you brought them. 2625 Louis Street. Have a good night. All my stuff
and take your glass of water. Turn it in. Turn it into a glass of wine when you get home. Oh, that's Have a good night. I promise he's not watching it on channel. Okay, let's get uh let's get back to some sense of
order. 2625 Lewis Street. Okay. How you doing, sir? Sorry. Part of conservation. Uh Lisa, what's um uh so we I got tagged on a building permit and uh went out
there and luckily um Al had the site flagged um but he they were cleaning up. It was a mess. The property was a mess and they got within 25 30 feet. So I asked they have a huge fill pile now
they're going to have to get rid of and kind of restore. But he agreed to like put up placards and erosion controls. There's no problem with you doing that. Right. The bottle's already up. I tried to send an email. Came back to me with the pictures. You tried to send me an email. It came back. Okay. All right.
Wonder if it's the blue man. Blue man. Yeah. You ask me to send an email with pictures. I did. Okay. You come here for the entertainment? No. No. Stay here and come back. Wait, let's let's deal with this here.
And uh Oh, no. It's El L Calonia. Lisa, that's okay. Thank you. Glad it's not screwed up. Thank you so much. I share the picture. You can see the pictures here. Just see. So, just what you said. I follow that the bottom of
the hill. Okay. And then so just in the email, just let us know that you're going to work with us and I'll sign off on that building permit. Okay. I wasn't going to do anything wrong. All right. I This It seems like you're ready to take care of it if you haven't already done so. Thank you very much.
Okay. Um have a good night. Um before we go on to other business, how you doing, sir? Um I I don't see where you would fit under the agenda unless you have under other
other. Okay. Uh review. Take it out of order. Okay. Proposed warrant article for the revolving fund. Paul, you're going to take care of that. You know how to write that up, right? Yeah, I'll write that. We'll have to propose it for the special though because they closed the warrant for the annual. So, we'll have to propose it at the special. Okay. But, but that'll give us enough time to
go through the municipal law unit review to be live. Usually, this takes 90 days from the day of vote before it can go live anyway. So, even if it was voted, okay, gone live until next year anyway. So, I support Okay, very good. Thank you. Um, review
act on the meeting minutes for November 1st, uh, 24 and, uh, March 20th, 25 and April 17th of 25. Is there a motion? Uh, no, we don't have those minutes yet. So, the only minutes we have are the November
ones. Okay. I got them on Monday and I started reviewing them, but I haven't finished. Um, she's a little behind because she's had some medical things going on. Okay. Well, let's do the 21st. Uh, have those approved. Motion to approve meeting minutes of November
21st. Second. They're not ready. You're not ready. Did you read them all? I did not read them through. I I I read I only read one page. I read them through. Well, f first before we even make a motion. It says November 21st, 2024.
Right. It is 24. Yeah. Okay. We're behind. Okay. So, there were maybe a couple of spelling errors or something that just need to be changed. Yeah, I I didn't see any problem. Okay. All right. Okay. So, motion has been made and
seconded. All in favor? It was a second. Seconded. All in favor? Okay. So, the 24th 21st is passed. Okay. Bills payable. We're all set with that being paid. Um
I think I had one stack of bills we paid. Where is it? I like that one stack. Yeah, not very much. Um, end of this year, we of course need to stay on top of that. Hopefully Paul
can help me stay on top of that. We We've not spent very much money. No, tell you the truth. We've not spent very much. Okay. I just put some work because I knew we needed the year mostly just professional
technical David Gay. Oh, wait. Okay. So, so Paul, is this your signature, Paul? Yes. Those have all been paid already. Oh, okay. All right. We're all set. Thank you. Okay. Would you like to take public input out
of order can uh motion to take public input out of order? Second. All in favor? I guess you're on. That's it. Well, Lisa suggest go up there. It doesn't matter.
It's easier for our minute taker. So, I called Lisa the other day. Um, we own property on 670 Main Street. Next door is 700 Main Street. Steve Elderin. A few years ago, Lisa went and looked at the site. He was filling in some wetland areas. So, he's still doing that. So
that's the reason that Lisa suggested I come here to make it to bring it to your attention. Okay. He's filling in the stream, filling in the wetlands. It's all skunk cabbage. I walked over the other day and talked to him about it. I didn't get very far with him. So, u he's also encroaching on private property,
but that's going to be a civil matter coming up. So, but it's basically he's filling a wetland. Just for the record, I'm a former abuter. So, I no longer am. So I do not have to excuse myself because my financial interest in the property no longer existed as of tonight. So yeah. Oh
good. So that's basically it. Somebody could take a look at it. I'm going to have to set up a site visit Lisa, right? Uh yeah, definitely. That's my rad up again. Um so to access through Was it Young Steve? Young Steve. Yeah. He's the
one that says he owns a house now. Yeah. Whatever. I'm not saying anything. I am not either, but I try to talk to him civily and he's just he keeps on pushing pushing pushing pushing into the wetlands. I mean, it's it's constant. He's past the tree line
now. There were two trees and and he's way over on my property, but we're going to be taking care of that. So, yeah, I can pull up for the next meeting. I pull up the map and we could see the difference. I brought that too. Something you're
writing. You wanted something in writing. It's just it just basic states what I just did. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think we should call everyone and set up a visit. Okay. will address the issue. Great. Thank you. You need What do I give this
to Lisa or who do I give this to? Please. Thank you. And it'll be on the agenda for next month the 26. Thank you for coming. So Oh, well no worries. Mine's not. Trust me, I can't read my
writing. And the person is Steve. Steve. Okay. Um Okay. Review discuss act correspondence concerning uh Lewis
Street. What's that all about, Lisa? He was just here. Oh, that was the one that was just Okay. um memo the from the board of health and meeting at five for 5:205. Uh yeah, so that meeting time has
changed to 100 p.m. I did find out from Mr. Vitaco today. Um I can attend that then. I'm starting to work that I can zoom in from my office. Excellent. I'm going to attend. Is this 5:20? Yeah. Tuesday.
this Tuesday at 1 p.m. Um, yeah, I just I think we just need to communicate that the communication needs to be better and um you had some written something. There it
is. Um, basically that you know the jurisdiction of the conservation commission is to validate the wetland lines. We just want to make sure that another department doesn't try to understands that we are the ones that
actually do that part. Okay. Yeah, we had talked about that that that um it's not the health agent that determines the wetland line. It is Lisa. Yeah. I I think it's also a warrant stating that this is not a
um a struggle of which department has authority over what thing because truth be told this is to protect residents because the perk review can prevent a resident spending thousands of dollars parking a site that we based on a preliminary look could have told them
that they want to explore alternate sight because they're going to run into a lot of problems. So this just this isn't about which department, you know, has dominion over what aspect of of permitting. It's it's what can we do to make the permit process more straightforward for residents and
measure twice and cut once for people. Yeah. The soon as soon as someone knows. Yeah. That's our mission. Exactly. That's our mission to to protect people to protect the environment. So it's Tuesday. Okay.
Um, anyone else have anything else to say here? I will accept a motion for ajournment. Second. All in favor? I at 7:53.
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