one two three how about Peter maybe Ralph how should we get He might be held up and I don't know if he was expected to be here well we were just talking welcome back
to November you know the weatherwise someone trying to um before we going formally um we're just talking when when we first got started it seemed as though we sort of
scan the horizon and said you know this this is where the target rich environment is right here and we did some things with the transfer station with bags and everything i think we've got another we're at a place now where a lot more ideas on the table maybe
instead of trying to shotgun do everything at once maybe we need to focus on another two or three ideas and just move forward sort of do things incrementally because I think yeah some of them are time sensitive well no you know that's what I'm time sensitive and
that's Missy's good at that out okay that will help with what you're just saying because those could be grouped together good afternoon hello hello we got Zoom going already so just waiting for
I don't know four here out of how many peter's missing and Barbara's missing i would say we're going to call them out there you know I spoke with her weeks ago and
I call back okay color waste reduction committee Florida pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for
all afternoon Missy i'm fine you need a members introduction do you know who I am sometimes depends on what I know who I am okay and first on old
business took off um discuss the swap sh who would like to uh dive into that one swap sh coming
today right there i'm right here can't make it no no i couldn't make it in person today thank you um so the grants have opened up which
means the grant for the shed is something that you can apply for and I think we spoke at the last meeting that is your plan to apply for that shed for the $6,000 to cover that and then any
additional expenses um you would be able to use your RDP funding that you already have um earned in the test is that correct correct so this
this print out we have from you you see what I'm holding up yep so the highlighted ones we're not going after it's the ones that are not highlighted correct the swap shed and the universal waste uh yes you're going after the swap shed
you can only go after one even better that's we want to be more focused on our efforts right now yep so whoever will be filling out the grant this year uh make sure that gets
submitted the earlier the better right by June I believe uh it will be due June 2nd right at 11:59 p.m try not to wait that long because I like to kind of look them
over and that way I can make sure there's no mistakes and we can catch them but when you do it at like 11 o'clock that night it's a little hard so and that's that's just for the sake we can work out the details after the main
thing is go after the the grant correct exactly exactly does that help discussion today oh yeah absolutely yep so the grant So the grant um like you said the deadline is June 2nd it goes through a review process and
then usually um late fall the the uh grant awards are uh released so at that point then you know whether you've gotten the grant and uh then the funds will be released once all the paperwork is signed ralph has
some stuff he has to sign and then once that's signed they release the money for it so it'll probably be you know around Christmas time and all that's kind of taken care of right so yeah so it's doesn't happen
overnight exactly right but it gives you time to kind of plan things and where you want to put it and you know what you know regulations you want to have around it the biggest ones really seem to be you know what you want to take and what you don't want to take and the other
thing is it's when I'm talking to the other uh towns who are in the same situation you are it's easier to add something in than take it away so one of the items that's very popular is not
taking any electronic items right now in the beginning because you want to kind of be able to figure out how your volunteers are working um and that kind of thing with not having to test and try out electronic
items each time so you you know you want to make it as simple as possible right now once everything gets goes smooth and stuff you can then add the um electronics in once you know that you've got you know a good ground um ground
support with your volunteers that they can actually test things out and you know that kind of thing you can also get a better handle on your spacing um within the facility and that kind of stuff so it's always easy to start small
and add in more talking about the hook the details of both the inside okay that makes sense to me i think she's just talking about general categories um I have a question right um regard I'm
sorry go ahead want to make sure Mr perry has a question for you just speak up if you cannot hear them okay can you hear me yeah regarding the electronics um brought a question to mind and you said when electronics come in you know
can they be tested etc would they be tested and then put on the shelf who accepts the liability for something like that electronics in particular anything that uses electricity let me try that so at just like anything at the uh
recycling center the town accepts the liability I mean you're accepting you know people coming in there they could fall in a hole and break their ankle you know they're tossing in their bulky waste items they can fall over the edge so it is the in it is on the town so
this is a town service that you're providing um and that would be part of it once the Thank you once the town accepts it the liability passes i I'm going to clarify that for myself thank you yeah yeah so there is an organization and Tom can tell me if you
participate in this or not but it's called I think it's called Maya M I A and it's a municipal something insurance association and they provide uh some grants and some information and and insurance for municipalities and they
cover a lot of uh transfer station recycling centers so I don't know if Dyton uses them or not uh we do not okay is there any other questions on the shed all right who's Who's going to be the person pursuing the grant
i know who isn't you're not okay mr ney you're not no no so it's one of the two that are not here right i'd say so or myself right there you go i'll take a crack at
it right that's what I do all right so everyone knows myself or Ralph will uh will be uh making sure this is pushed forward we got roughly 30 days isn't she going to be a resource when you were doing it yes she's a resource
yes okay yeah well she wants to see it before we actually submit it too okay yep okay miss Missy it looks like uh Ralph or myself will be making sure this is going through excellent
good and I I I can't guarantee you're going to get the grant but it's something that I have not heard of anyone ever being turned turned down for it so um it's pretty much a done deal I think missy how do you want us to get it
to you before we officially submit it so what you actually do is when you go into retract um you can still you can save it and just let me know that it's in there and then I can actually go in and look at it i can't edit it or do anything to it but
I can review it okay thank you because as you'll see that some of the questions will ask you know where it's going to go you know if does it have town approval um will you have like a pad you know set down for it or you know ask
those types of questions on it all right if there's nothing else we'll move on to uh who who wanted the recycle compost bins on agenda was it me me it was you on that that was me oh
yeah we've got a good point we've got a review discuss act so do we have to make a motion on that for what move to pursue the swap shed grant we did second well we moved to move forward with it last meeting oh you did okay so this is just continuation of Okay but but did you
have the people to do it at the last meeting yeah I think you made the motion we had the names of the people who Everybody was here we're going to Okay testing me no I'm not you did make the motion i'm testing anybody make the
motion i'm testing myself okay all right let's talk about compost bins okay so Tom did you thought you put it on there so do you want to talk about your thoughts about compost bins first
uh right right now we currently take compost at the transfer station uh our department mixes it routinely like this weather right now being moist we it's a good time to mix it uh the temperature was up throughout this winter which I was surprised i think it's been almost
60 days since the last time I turned it last year's stuff is already black it's coming out nice oh good oh good excellent so let me let me clarify what I what I mean by compost it mean I don't necessarily mean just yard waste and uh
leaf leaf and you know brush and all that stuff so I actually mean the food scraps and that kind of thing as well so um my my my my topic of compost is different than your topic so So what do
you do with all your compost when it's done in good now it's free for the residents with a transferation sticker and I use it in projects in the town sometimes but a lot of times it ends up in people's gardens oh good excellent um
and so do you have anything left over or is it Yes we have I have quite a bit of Yes can increase the volume please thank you sorry sorry that's the other reason I'm not there my My voice is not the greatest right now sorry yeah at the transfer
station I got a little over 100 yards available at another location I have about 300 yards not being used however that 300 yards I used to mix the street sweepings with to make it more on the loom side and um after we found out a lot of this was ended up in people's
gardens uh we didn't want them to do that because we didn't have it tested they could be the antifreeze or the mercury and all that stuff so we'll still use that stuff first in the town projects where it's safe and um the stuff that's at the transfer stations is
the clean stuff oh good oh good okay so what I mean by compost is um for residents who and this is this is a way to kind of help you save a little bit of money and a little bit of you know
tonnage so having backyard compost bins for your residents which allows them to mix their own yard waste directly in there and also their food scraps so they would be composting and to be honest
it's a much richer and even better um compost mix than what you have is because you have that really uh interesting balance of like eggshells and fruit peels and that kind of thing as well so this actually will kind of
help reduce your tonnage for your trash because approximately anywhere from 20 to 30% of municipal household trash consists of food and so we're trying to remove that
and basically you're paying for this so when you pay your you know your bill with Borges um you're paying by the tonnage as well as you know the pickup fees so anything you can do to reduce your bag weight at
the curb is beneficial to you and your residents and um again if you don't have to deal with you know the yard and leaf waste um at the transfer station then again you know it can stay a little bit more
local in your resident's yards than you having to deal with it again it just makes it easier um so we we encourage residents to um and municipalities to have backyard
composting options for the residents we do you can use your RDP funds to purchase bins for the residents and the other reason I'm I'm kind of promoting this right now is that on the RDP grant
that I talked about last time is that you can actually get a point um and that equals money for providing these to your residents these bins um you can pay you can give the bins
away for free but I would not they're about $65 you can subsidize like maybe half the cost of the bins to your residents or if you want to do um you know have them pay the full amount you can do that as well you can do anything i would encourage you if you do do it that you
would subsidize it to kind of encourage your residents to start doing these programs um some towns I really wouldn't suggest this very much but in Dyton when I go down there I see everyone has pretty sizable yards and so you know this is not going to be like you know
the main focal point of your yard kind of thing it can kind of be tucked away in the back so I would encourage you to do something like this and then have education programs as well so that Dyon residents can kind of help themselves and help you at the same time so that's kind of what I'm throwing out there by
compost question what is the um volume of this typical uh bin that you're talking about so they come in different sizes the one I'm actually going to propose I think it's 65 gallons it's pretty big um and
they do come in different sizes um it is available on um the state contract what I'm doing for right now if you want to go ahead and order them from the state contract you know go ahead and do that um in the meantime if you want to like just try out a little a few I could
probably get um Fall River who ordered way too many the last time uh to to sell them to you at you know whatever cost they got uh a few years ago which was a lot cheaper than they're selling them now and then I could bring them up to you um with that if you wanted to try
out something smaller um rather than ordering a larger quantity off of state contract well I mean is there like small medium large sizing if you will yeah so you can do that um almost no municipality does that for the simple
reason it just makes more work for you more organization more like keeping track of how many sold and stuff so usually they just go with the biggest one um and then this this bin is um they're two
different companies but the one bin you can actually I think make it a little bit smaller um it's like a plastic sheeting kind of thing like really rigid plastic and you kind of um put it together with little little pins and I think you can make it smaller
but um No I was just trying to get a feel for for you know what what we're dealing with that's all and if it's like what's the optimum size you're finding out yeah yeah so that is so that is the optimum size yeah you don't want to make it too small yeah exactly and it's and
it and it's based on you know science like Tom was talking about that the compost piles heating up that it needs to be a certain size and so that is that is optimized for that okay thank you last last week in the volumes and papers
that I read I came across an article on backyard composting i'll get it into your office tomorrow uh Missy I have a a question so yep are you suggesting the backyard compost is
everything or is it the backyard compost yard waste and then food waste goes to the town compost pile nope nope so so right now your your town pile does not take food waste it only takes yard waste
but the perfect mix of a really good compost pile in the backyard is having some of those yard waste scraps and having your food as well yeah so it's a combination yeah where can we find a U if you could like
forward us like a for education purposes what what exactly is food waste i mean you toss some chicken bones in there and stuff so you know Yep that's the other that's the other part of this is that there needs to be an education component um and I
provide tons of information um Tom already gets it every year he probably is tired of seeing it every year um of putting that out there i can also come down and do like live demos and you know talk about it and all this stuff and then also Tom's um assistant um Heather
I think is she's a super composting queen already and so she and I were talking all about composting so you have like in-house a really good expert already so um you can do little social media things but yeah we would go over
exactly what it is and and how to do it and meat meat is not something or meat bones is not something we would recommend in there we kind of want to cut down on the vermin factor um and that does seem to be attracting more animals these things are litted um but
again you do want to kind of make it easier on that so yeah we can go through all of that i can pop in at this the senior center we can do a show we can do whatever but so I got two questions yep uh first for the reporting side do we
got to prove numbers prove that it's working um what do you mean that it's working how do we prove we took the x amount of pounds out of the waist oh so no no the only way it gets prove that you're doing
this to mass D for you know the points or whatever is we ask you how many you sold that year okay they must have a formula to figure that out and then the second question was the RDP grant so what's the nuts and
bolts timelines how do we what should we be shooting for so if you wanted to start this program um it would need to be up and running by June 30th because it runs on a calendar year so that's what I was saying is if you want to make
this easier and faster I'll be down in Fall River I think next week um if you do want that I can arrange it with them and I can pick them up for you and bring them up um if not then in the meantime you would need to go through the state contract and I can send that to you if you don't have it and then you would
have to order the bins directly from those companies one of the companies actually is local i think it's out of New Bedford anyway so it's not like a a really long thing but there is some time lay we can have the money that we've been banking use pay for this exactly
exactly exactly and you need to decide though i think they're running about $65 each now but you need to decide how much a resident's going to pay and I really would encourage the town to subsidize it
to be honest um you want to get people to start trying this so $30 seems to be kind of like a sweet spot that a lot of towns are subsidizing it at way April now so that's why I'm kind of throwing out
the the Fall River thing so if you want we could literally start running with um you know getting the education out there getting a flyer telling residents it's available they can pre-order them and then I can just get them from Fall River for you as
needed but I I think my car could hold probably four to eight is it Is there an incentive program to get people to do this uh not I mean not really i mean well yes though the fact is that the town is
covering half of the cost of it that would be the incentive program but um basically you know it's just telling your residents that you know this stuff is not going into your pay as you throw bags so that means you can put other
stuff in there it also means that the animal that's the incentive yeah that's the incentive that the education component we're taking x amount of percentage out of I I understand yeah that that would be the incentive because the overall cost
that's costing the town Yeah is the tonnage yeah yeah and and another really important thing is that when you're removing the food scraps from your curbside pay as you throw bags you're cutting down on those animal scavengers that are that are ripping the bags and
stuff as well so I think that's a huge incentive right so to here and now today how do we move forward do we want to actually come up with a number or we want to work on this till the next meeting a number how many
you want to get if we're going to move forward with the backyard recycling compost no if it's so Missy to get credit for it we have to have it in place by the end of June correct correct correct yeah so we have
to we should act on it exactly exactly next year's though couldn't we we could i'm sorry say that again i said we That's to get it in this year's but we could get it in next year's too right yep so you could you
would still get points for it every year the thing is I want to try and get you as many points as possible this year well every year I want to do that but um right now like I said if you wanted to just say you know I could pick up four bit you know I don't know five bins from
Fall River for you you that that would allow you to go ahead create a flyer um you know come up with a price and then take pre-orders from your residents and so we could see how many people you know want them and then we can move ahead
from there and like I said if you need to get more from Fall River I'm sure they'd love to have you help them clear out their storage area for the way too many that they ordered so what's the backup plan if they don't
that if if the proposal doesn't fly with the people well if we only Yeah if we only ordered four so we're down four barrels so it's 12240 200 we're out 250 bucks yep and
what I would suggest I'm not talking I'm talking about people resisting not wanting to do it well if they don't want to Yeah if they don't want to do it then they don't and this is to take more waste out of
the stream right so this is a not not everyone's required to do it yeah we're not requiring people to do it if people are resistant to it then they don't do it you haven't spent much so it's not much of a loss if you've only bought four bins exactly but
thinking from that point of view I'm just thinking you know how popular is the program now it's been around for years how many people have composted in their backyard ind right now i've tried it before and the animals scavenge it if I had a bin to put it in I'd probably do
it i tried but I was feeding more of the animals than It just to my way of thinking it just doesn't seem to be a popular program for for people to do it on their own well how about Yes I think if if you're
going to first of all let's let's not think about the 30th of June just for just a minute okay and that that timeline number one uh it's a program that's been around forever and I think
we need to I I I think after a good education program I mean spend the money to put a flyer out there and we can put a flyer together but the focus of the flyer being hey if you compost A you're taking state average 20 to 30% of the
weight out of your bag b you can put more stuff in your bag so you're using less bags you're going to end up with a nice compost that you can use in your garden uh or for your rose bushes or whatever and it reduces the overall
weight that we pay Borg just to take away therefore reducing the overall cost of the program and to to me that's the first thing and in addition to that four bins that you could say to people you take a photograph of the bins or say hey
come on and take a look at these things and what do you think and then go out and say "Okay after the education piece how many of you want to give this a go?" Because we're willing to pay just to throw out
your number 30 bucks and it cost you 35 or vice versa but I I just I I don't want to try to squash it all into and it may fit into the time we have between now and the 30th of June but I just don't want you know to say we can gain a couple of points i'd rather have the
program be successful that that's my I think if we if it I mean we would have to act like now we can't wait for the next meeting for June if we're squeezing in June 30th and it might be well to be honest this is the time of the year this is right at the
sweet spot where towns are kind of rolling out their programs for the year even though they've done this over the years so this is the time to do it because everyone's kind of cleaning up their yards already so they've got you know extra leaves and things like that so people are thinking about gardening and all this stuff now so yeah it needs
to be kind of almost done immediately i have we have master EP we have all these resources all over i could you know by tomorrow I could flood your email with um you know 10 10 different things everything from cute little videos to
flyers i have new flyers i have old school flyers that are really excellent um and it just you know it can make it really um pretty much as fast and Elizabeth I know I've seen some of the work she's done and she she does some great work with the flyers and stuff
like that so it's just pretty much a matter of you know me providing some basic information and um you know all that kind of stuff and look let me ask you this if if she were to send a lot of this information to you would you be
willing to accept it because if you are fly I'll sit down with you and we can draft up a flyer i can definitely make a flyer all right the a picture of the bin and what if we did a poll like Facebook is the place where everybody goes right to complain to find stuff what if we did
a poll on the Facebook page saying would you be interested and see where it goes you recommend that before after the education piece what do you think i would probably want to educate them first and then give them the the poll
and say would you want to take part no exactly i I think I think then you're going to gauge right away after education you know and and offer people up the advantages of saying "Yeah you know instead of
throwing it in here and having bore just drive off with it you're going to have to take it from here and maybe put it in a little bin and then take it out and back and throw it in your compost." But that's the downside the upside is all those things we just addressed you know
for them personally and for the overall you know budget of the town so what if you do a poll and you don't get the results you're looking for are we going to go forward with it yeah we we don't do it but you still gain still gain education component
though every time you do something like that okay yeah i mean if people say you know but if we don't do that program then that garbage that was supposed to go in and the compost to go in the backyard is now going to go back into this it's going there now we're trying to take it out of the
system that's what I'm saying so it's just going to stay in there it's going to be status quo no change people are going to just throw the potato peels in a gorgeous bag as opposed to not throwing it in there and throwing it in their composting thing guess I didn't
make my point clear no no didn't so Missy you can bring us a barrel from Far River or do we have it um I'll go get it because I have I'm going to be working with them on a technical assistance i'll be down there a lot so and I kind of drive right by you guys to
get back home so I'll be in the neighborhood so yeah I think it's next week I will be with them next um so I'll get the But I can give you I can give you a photo of what they look like already and then you can have They don't have to bring them no no you just send me a photo photograph yeah
yeah okay well some sometimes people like to have it like an actual model in the town hall or whatever so people can see it but it's pretty easy yeah it would be nice photograph yeah that plus photograph plus a barrel so what does
this look there it is okay are we done with that for now there's nothing else act on i would I I would um move that we um develop an education flyer on um this
uh potential um um composting uh of food waste that's not on it okay any further discussion hearing none all in favor i
oppose and I would volunteer to assist sounds good make sure you got that and Elizabeth I can also help so I don't too much that first i hear you last item in old business the
curbside bulky uh week reminder May 12th through 16th um Elizabeth asked me this morning about the message board yeah we'll put them on message board but there's seems to be a lot of demand for the message boards right now is that the only time
during the year they're going to pick up stuff you we do it once a year i'll have repost it on social media and do it quite well i've only sold six tags so they'll all
come back for Will that be on the sign well what be on the sign the dates that the town does only once a year no we've historically done it once a year but on the sign will it be on the sign there's not room i could put annual
okay yeah that would make you Yeah that would have called yeah I know how to spell that so we're good there you don't i do oh good that would be a good idea okay all right new
business items received at transfer station rugs the rug scenario i didn't move forward with it because after the meeting I realized the rug that Bob's going to get rid of and the rug that Mr neil is going to get rid of are two
different sizes so what are you buying when you charge for $50 so that's why it's not on a new priceless lip yet is there any other way that we could resolve this or just don't take
rugs some other towns take them usually they weighing them because it's going somewhere else where it's got a scale we don't have a scale it's not going to be worth investing in a scale for that pepro they they charge by the cubic yard
they could have a scale not a weight scale but a number scale 3x5 rung so much 12 by 10 so much how do you know how you going to know as the attendant what size it is well you can measure one of the
dimensions if they roll it up you can measure one dimension yeah so prepro they go by the rolls and they charge by the cubic yard well let me ask you where would once it's accepted by the town where does it
go from there how is it disposed of from the transfer station it either go to any or go to Newfanford depending on Mr borg just's he keeps track of the market for right now they they're encouraged to cut it up in the town
bag so if it's a very large rug they're probably hiring someone anyways is this something that uh the price goes down if it's by weight does the price go down as you have more weight or is it just linear you know in other words if
if you send 500 pounds of rugs it's one price per pound versus 1,500 pounds of rugs does does the price diminish as you know the weight increases or No it's just go by the tonnage okay and the rug is one of them items that when it's wet
it's heavy oh yeah so it stays out the weather there someone can bring it in dry and it stays there until it's time to pick up and it's soaking wet so we're going to pay for the rain too i don't know i think rugs are a necessary weight that we
shouldn't take one and it but if we do take it I would like to see him in not $50 per rug but a price per four foot roll because that's usually how I know how towns do they cut them up in four
foot rolls do we do $10 go ahead miss yeah so they're they're you usually done with that roll thing because it's easier for the drivers yeah and for them to handle the big thing with any rugs is that as Tom
mentioned is the weight so if you go strictly by size some rugs are heavy i mean just you know buying them when they're not wet or dirty or anything they're going to be lighter depending on what they're made from so the weight and then the other thing is dirt when
they're dirty they also pick up weight so you know it's it's one of those you go by size it's not really truly capturing the data of like how much you're going to pay by the weight that make sense what if what if you made them
cut it to a certain size well that's I said in 4 foot rolls most places do it in regardless whether it's like a nylon rug or wool rug or but but and you do it in in 4 foot right so you do it in four foot rolls so but so my thought doesn't love just
cut it up and put in the back that's where I was in the beginning but if you have six rooms that you're dealing you're probably hiring someone and they can take care yeah and they can cut it are area rugs that rugs and the backing
and the Exactly and the thing is I don't think it's a problem to keep it off the list it's not on the list right now yeah and putting it at the curb is is like I said you're capturing the bag sales which you've kind of figured out the
weight in there already you know it's and again it's not something you have to deal with at the transfer station where it's going to pick up more dirt and water possibly from being out in the open which was is going to end up costing you more so the bag idea cutting
it into that 4ft rolls will fit in the bags well whatever size they want that makes it fit in the bag yeah exactly exactly yeah yeah and then put it out curbside they're probably not going to leave it out in the weather long anyways so that would protect us from paying the
overage well how many rugs have we had come in in the past six months just I haven't seen them it's not in the list so she's going to get phone calls now because it's bulky item pickup and she
goes by this list so we need we need we need to help Elizabeth last year not just us we need to help her out too well what did we do last year for the rock i remember selling some i'll have to look i want to
say it was $20 there was some last year yeah and then how she can't see it over the phone so we're not going to know until we get there um it's not an easy thing at all oh well
why don't what is just a flat fee out there i I don't Well last meeting last meeting we voted $50 but after the meeting I realized what is that $50 buying you yes $50 makes sense because that'll
cover wet rugs dirty rugs rugs too big that'll cover it basically if two guys three guys can carry it it's probably $50 anyways so could you have a sake of argument let's say you got a 10 by 12 room okay large carpet like that a large
rug 50 bucks for that if you got a you know a roll up like a throw rug or something 20 bucks and when they come in for the the sticker they have to say she has to say "What are you throwing away?" This is what I'm throwing away it's a $20 sticker what are you throwing away full room that's 50 bucks i mean I I'm
not 40 so the area rugs are going in the town bags already they're not going to the transfer station because they can fit in there right right or or they cut it up once you know one cut aren't we talking about the the the one day uh rug in general rug in general right someone that wants to bring it there they think
that's where it's supposed to go i don't think that's where it's supposed to go well what have people done in the past i mean have they thrown rugs out there before July 1st last year it was part of construction debris it would come in and
truckloads but we needed to stop that because it was just there was no way to quantify the weights that were coming in and that would be one of the things we needed to capture no but I mean the for this I thought we were focusing on this this bulky waste day in terms of people
putting things there there's multiple layers to the request yes uh the here and now is Elizabeth and also she again she bases her decisions on this list so does our attendant
so where are we with the rug i say we don't take it encourage them to cut it up and put in a bag that's where I am okay boy if you're gonna you're going to change multiple rooms in a house you're hiring someone have to go and buy a new pair of
scissors to cut up the rug well the guy that's installing them takes them away well well I was that was a question I was going to ask you when when you buy a rug don't you don't you make deal with a with a seller to take it back i I I normally do it and that would be an
education component also people need to know that you're right it would be an education component yes so you're talking more like area rugs people that's I'm tired of my area rug or my dog did a number on it it's
time to get rid of it you know I would say no to rugs missy do you see a problem us having rugs as an unaccepted item uh near annual bulky waste thing and the transfer station um no I mean it's it's
you can do whatever you want and again residents can cut it up and put it into the pay bag so it's not like they don't have any options so no I mean I don't see no problem because like I said I live in Shrewsbury we do not have a
recycling center at all so that is what our residents do is we put them in you know our payt bags or like everyone has been saying the uh the vendor who you know is putting in your new carpet takes the old stuff away you know again like
getting residents to start thinking about that because there's a cost involved so since we voted last meeting that charge $50 do we need a vote to retract that and then another vote not to put it as an unaccepted item is that the route we got to do two motions
well yeah but we need to have some discussion on each motion we've been we can have more because we need a motion made in second then he's Well first of all let's do we want your thoughts keep rugs are you saying
keep rugs on on the list no I'm I'm not after listening to the discussion here i would say no you can put them in the town bags you're just not going to take it oh yeah yeah yeah i get it i take the transfer station or the curbside the bulky item pickup
standard answer would be cut it up and put it in a bag or have the dealer take the rug away something going through your head i can tell thinking how to cut it up because I use that box cutter i've cut rugs on before i haven't used a big scissor i'm
like that's a good utility knife the utility knife yeah that does it you know and like you say it's usually it's usually area rugs cuz you're right the wallto- walls usually if you order a new one they the installer takes it yeah and they
take because that's everything that's the rug that's the backing that's the whole Exactly so and it's the it's a lot sir I'd like to entertain a motion to have the rugs as an unaccepted item on a
transfer station list and also for the annual annual board item pickup is that first i I'd like to move you said you were entertaining yes so I thought you So you sec He made a motion
did you second it correct okay any dis any further discussion on that so if somebody calls your your department and asks what to do with the rugs you are prepared to answer the question for her with this information today yes okay
and so so Elizabeth also okay if you think about it alone it would be cheaper for them to cut it up and put it in a bag 50 bucks yep so you'll cut up a rug yes or plenty of rugs
it's a Believe me it's a pain i totally agree with you yeah yeah any more discussion all in favor i any oppose i'd like to entertain a motion to retract last month's vote for the
charging rug for $50 can I vote because I I didn't vote on that last time see here's the thing so the person if you were there and you voted in the positive for it that person needs to make the
motion to retract a motion so Mr neely were you there last at last meeting i was at the last meeting yeah cuz I was not i left early does he get tip of your tongue who did it you better no well it's not the person who did it
has to make it it's just if you voted in the affirmative for it on if you are on the winning side karen made the motion and Dave made the second so we can't do anything because Peter's not here no no no any if you No if you
voted anyone who voted on the winning side this Robert's rules of procedures i don't mean if we're following that really doesn't matter but technically if you voted um on the winning side you can vote to resend or resend that motion so
because you voted on the winning side I didn't i did not bob didn't which means Mr ney you can retract the motion they can't because they weren't here yeah yeah i don't think Peter was here at the last meeting either yeah he was on
TV he zoomed in want to make the motion what do you want me to say make a motion to retract the charges that we voted on last meeting the $50 charge make a motion to retract what the
$50 charge for rugs okay transfer station i'll make a motion that we that we retract a motion we made for $50 for disposal of rugs at the last meeting yes second second
okay can I vote we can vote any further discussion hearing none all in favor i any oppose moving right along should have made a motion to vote again you have two i know you would
all right so we got two more items in new business that's probably like a missy thing b is grant opportunities and C is technical assistant grants okay so when long time ago when uh Michael the
previous town manager had approached me for my grant time with you it was for a very specific grant um for contracting and for pricing for your pay as you throw bags so that issue has been
taken care of correct i'm pay you said you said a couple things there okay so which one is taken care of okay so pay as you throw bags um and your whole contract your contract
with Borges that has been renewed or everything process of renewal okay and then and then you had we were working for quite a long time about pay as you throw cost of the bags also looking at
fees you know have we resolved that issue yeah I believe so well I'm going to say this meaning removing are you suggesting or I'm
saying the select men are entertaining the idea of taking the um uh paying for the garbage outside outside of the uh the budget and making
it a a true user fee is that what you So we're going to examine that possibility what is that okay so you're still you're still examining that part okay cool then still Yep give me one second miss So we write
the residents pay for their trash through through their taxes that cost the town north of $800,000 so the select men and we're in the hole about $800,000 because of uh because of the um our obligations to pay
the capital improvements at uh at Bristol Aggie and Bristol Plymouth so the once again the selectmen are thinking of taking that out of the budget and making it a user fee sort of
collecting from the town if you want to use trash we'll charge you you know 50 bucks a quarter or and and what does that you know how does that work so so we would collect almost $800,000 in user fees to
pay for trash collection that's it in a in a in a rough in a rough nutshell so and those who don't want to participate they don't then we pay less because we have less participants so that makes sense yeah so it's a like
a strict user fee all right so that that fits under the technical assistance that's why she brought it up correct yeah yeah so I can still So my my technical assistance uh program with you is still valid so it's still moving
ahead okay yeah my bosses I can't have too many because it gets a little crazy for me so they just want to know what is still ongoing and what has been resolved and what needs to be closed out but from what you're telling me no you still need my assistance and I would highly
encourage when the select board has this discussion and Ralph when you also have it that I kind of be involved um sometimes and you're not the only one it's it's it's a delicate balance the thing is you don't want a lot of your
residents to stop using your trash program because your contract with Borges is kind of based on it as well so it's it's a very delicate balance and the cost so one town is like I think it's Hopkinson they're the residents
pretty much pay the whole entire you know cost it's like $647 um you know which is really huge um but because you have pay as you throw there's like you know a little sweet spot and then the idea that you need to
have with the select board and bring this up is that the pay t bag costs need to be reviewed ideally annually but that's not going to fly but at least by annually or something because to have that price
stay the same when literally every year your program costs go up is just absolutely crazy so you know getting them to understand that that also needs to change you know every couple years okay
we all good right now I just have a question this fee that the select consider is that an annual fee quarterly fee annually or um I'm going to say what we had looked at in the past a quarterly fee to go out with your taxes
so that's $200 a year that was the number that was kind of floated around last time yeah what was that based on where how did they arrive at that figure um I don't know i didn't look at it that
hard but that was the number I saw so I'm sure it was based on you know what what the costs what the costs were and yeah well I I just I don't know if this is the appropriate format but I'll discuss it anyway
back to Elizabeth's point what if people don't buy in okay they can go private yep okay fine which then raises the baseline cost for everybody else if if a if a third of the residents in town elect to go on their own that $50 fee
now has to be increased up to $75 to cover that 800k amount i mean is is are they looking at those balance if we don't have that much weight well I I understand that but right now we do have the weight and we're looking at ways to reduce the weight but that's where we
are today and we haven't moved forward to you know with any programs we're discussing them to reduce the weight one thing we did positively was the bags pay as you throw which were less appropriated funds pay as you throw but
I mean we're still paying out of appropriated funds for the recycling so I mean we're just there's a lot of moving parts in this oh I don't disagree with you so if if we take that the total amount and spread it over the tax base what are we talking about i
think that was the number uh when I was looking at some of the old notes so the selectman had just brought it up uh we're going to look at it if that's what they agreed to do we're going to look at it pretty hard going into June July to
give to present options you know um um what they want to do so at that time I'll have a better idea of what you know what what the number is the kind of number that we saw that I saw that that Mike was presenting was about that $50 a quarter they also charge a hauler fee so
people who want to go privatize companies that are coming into town would have to be permitted so and then also I mean uh you know some of the things they were also they were looking at because you know it's $50 and then there's a senior discount so there's a
lot and and there are a lot of moving parts to it so yeah because you can't charge everybody the same because he lives alone and I live with five people you should pay for me and him well so so to be honest what what a lot
of logic a lot of the communities use is that the payt bags would cover the disposal fee of your contract the um annual fee would cover the recycling
and the um contract thing so that would that would eliminate the unfairness of you know a single household or somebody with five because it doesn't matter you know whatever you still have that contract with borges at the end of the day it's this disposal part that really
goes up and down and that's where the pay bags come in um the other thing I would highly recommend um you to do with this discussion is to call local other local haulers private haulers to see
what they charge because um I've heard anywhere from six to excuse me $5 to $700 um for a resident to do that on their own so it is expensive so you know in case residents automatically say "Well
all fine i'll just go do my own it is a significant expense um and that's again where it's it's a it's an art and also a numbers balance of what that annual fee will be you know what what will help the
budget and then also what your residents will um entertain and the 200 you know that really kind of is a very standard um amount with with other communities
your recycling fee though for recycling oh it's it's in appropriated funds comes out of appropriated funds because remember that discussion we had some time ago about $100 it was a proposal for $100 we just said no that's because that's that's
uneven you know pay as you throw pay as you recycle and then so what was the other thing for me oh I just wanted to The other thing was grant opportunities yep so um all the things that I talked about last week um you know working with
whoever is kind of you know doing the programming like there are little changes this year that need to kind of um happen for you to get get the same amount of points that you had last year little kind of minor tweaks so who should I be working with to make sure
that those get changed or updated a lot of them are little things like things need to go on the website um you know like we need to make sure that you know there's nowhere on the town information that pizza boxes cannot be recycled you know little things like that um so I
just need related I'll take it okay thank you Elizabeth so I'll uh well I think if you don't mind like if you be the point person and then you tell either Tom or me or or or
Leanne or can you put it on the town website yeah yeah there is well we're speaking of the website i did Google it to get price lists and it took a few tries because the outdated ones are still there easy accessible really i think Leanne has a way of getting them
removed if if you can look at that yourself or ask someone sitting next to you to look up the price and see what they come up with i bet you they're going to come up with an outdated one please is that on your page or the health department's page health
all right I'll see if I can get it to wipe it out yep yeah it's one of those those weird analytics things where I don't I don't know how to do it but it people are pretty good at it making sure it I think you can actually put um
parameters on when you want that information to be deleted on there but it might be a really high high skill level i don't know yeah um so yeah so a lot of it'll be a lot of website stuff yeah the newest one on the top it says effective date yep
i don't know if we want to just at first I didn't want to have a year on it like 2025 but so at a glance when someone's just going online they need to see I agree i mean they know what's the latest uh version we're going to have a new date in the top here anyways
Elizabeth because we're going to add unaccepted items be rugs rugs and so we can change the edit it on the bottom and they have a new date in the top effective date okay and then um yeah so just just point out that the grant now is officially open
and um that there is you know the deadline and to go through all that stuff and then also Tom there are some other larger grants so I don't know if you wanted to look at them they're called waste reduction grants so they're kind of bigger picture kind of things so
let's say if we wanted to put um a reusable dishwear in the schools or you know bigger bigger picture kind of grants as well we can look into that as well but they do require a lot more planning and um I don't know if you
really quite have time right now to go ahead with that but you might want to look look at that for next year okay and then one last thing I want to mention is um is household hazardous waste how do
residents in Dyton get rid of their household hazardous waste i get that question three times a month so what I usually ask right away and it usually solves the problem is what is it that you have for hazardous waste what is it okay paint okay it's usually
latex paint it's it's the education is not out there yet yard fertilizers and weed killers and I suggested calling a landscaper and see if they'll take it use them up is the right thing to do yep so so using them up is the right thing to do um although
I do know that with your contract with CAMASS and probably Borges has a contract as well that there kind of has to be a plan uh for that kind of thing so you might want to check with him but what I'm also throwing out there is I'm in the process
of creating a regional and reciprocal household hazardous waste program there would be some financial um buy in from the town um depending on what we go with it would probably be $2 to
$3,000 but your residents could possibly use an event at another town they could come to yours you could share with um you know an abuing town to have their program um but I just wanted to throw
out this idea that I'm really working on multiple avenues for this because it is really important the other thing is the state is kind of in the process of having working groups of creating other things like household hazardous products
um and so that kind of is more like the stuff you kind of have under your kitchen sink kind of thing but yeah using them up is the definite the definite thing but in my case you know when my father-in-law died in you know over the spring and I had to clean out their house you know what do I do with
it i mean I had boxes and boxes of stuff um so there are people you know moving in and out that are are do have these situations so it is kind of good to have it so I'm just throwing that out there once I have more information um I'll let you know about that but it's it's just a
kind of a good way uh to share the cost with other municipalities and give your residents more options right so yeah I'm I'm aware of those things so it's been a few years since we had one ourselves i I do question though if we went strong
with the education component so you're not having hazardous waste to begin with would that cover your concerns with the with like CAMS and a hauler i don't know again because you guys were one of the original signers from CAMASS i don't know so everyone has a different
contract with Seamass so you would probably want to chat with Borgous about that um or even look at your old contract or um how however you do it but um yeah I never even knew there was a component to it until I started seeing more recent contracts and went "Oh
okay." So um you know it's there we had like three or four of them since I've been living in town and I always thought they were very successful to be a lot of people there but you're not new in town no we're not so we only
had here too long we really haven't had that many right yeah they are expensive um but the thing is by working with you know your budding towns you could all share an event and share the cost and yet give everyone you know the option you know
for for having getting rid of the waste and stuff so um it's just something I'm throwing out there where' you have the transfer station or at the school or transfer station okay yeah so figure out that can be that can be a topic for another day but I just
wanted to throw that out there right now but that was good information that um it was a requirement it may be a requirement in that contract that that was something I was not aware of yeah yeah and like I said until a few months
ago I didn't realize it was in anyone's contract either until I started actually seeing those newer contracts with the um waste facilities okay any other items that was
overlooked next meetings May 5th 3:00 work a different time okay may May 5th work public input where is it has there ever been any public at any
of these meetings so we got minutes that need to be approved for March 3rd if you want do we want to table them you guys right there's a motion to table them moves the table of minutes of March 3rd
any further discussion i oppose i made a motion you made a motion i second okay just waiting for a motion motion to second
any further discussion all in favor any oppose nice seeing you again Missy i thank you take care i'll send you stuff bye thank you
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