Press it on. See that far away? This waste reduction committee. Did I spell everything right? I think so. Can't see that far with my glasses. All right. So, no Missy yet, but she said she would be on. Okay.
So, so it's just Missy and Mr. Ney. That's it. Hey, I think if I go for product placement, I can get some extra free stuff from Duncan. Yeah, there you go. Oh, I I see in the agenda you only have
September 1st. No, I mean um the June 2nd to approve. Oh, that's right. Because we postponed the May 5th. The May 5th that was tabled last meeting, right? We only table it because you
didn't complete it, right? I believe so. Yeah. And have it time, but it's not on the agenda. throwback. Yeah. Shouldn't really live in a wild side.
Kind of need it for the first discussion, but Oh yeah. And the second take things out of order. Yeah. Why not? Well, I I think we can have If you're
talking about the composting bins, I I think we could probably discuss that internally. We just um need funding. We I don't think we need her right now. I think we can. All right. Let's address that. Meet the order.
The flag algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Believe we can pass the introductions.
No. So, if everyone's fine with it, we'll take the agenda out of order. Go right to the compost bins. Yep. Okay. So, I asked Elizabeth to do a little
research. I left a note for you to try, but you've been busy today. Yeah. So, we should have money on hand to buy compost bins. The act of buying them and then the money's coming in. Does that does the accountant need to have an account set up for the coming and going of that
money? The accountant should already have account set up for the money coming in. Missy said it all goes into one fund and then we use it from that one fund, but we're not getting separate accounts for
the mattress container and the swap shed and the bins. It's all one lump sum. She said currently we have about 18,000 in there and then after this year it'll add another six. Um we're using some of the funds on the refillable water stations.
So I spoke to Karen today and she said she believes that uh invoice would be about 4 to 5,000. So we still got another 13,000 right now, right, to play with. Yeah, they were in they've been in for a few weeks. They're just sitting on the pallet, right? So what we need
you should have an invoice for that. Yeah. What we need is an account set up for money coming in for the compost bins when I get a check from a resident who purchased one. So, yeah, I'm not sure if we need a separate one because we're not selling
them what they're worth 100%. We're selling them for a fraction of the cost. Yeah. Where does that money go? I think we have to set up a separate account because other than that it goes in I mean well I guess it depends what
do we want to do with the money right so if it do we want to create a revolving fund where the money the purchases we take in the money and we use it to purchase more compost bins because other
than that will just go into the general fund. I like the idea of a revolving account better too. So if we're doing a revolving account, we have to set that up at a supp um at a uh town meeting.
Oh, town meeting just for this one item for revolving. But I mean we could do it in November. Okay. We could just take we could sell we could sell we could sell now and then um we could set up uh future sales for a revolving
fund. Um, when we get through addressing the funds, I have another point I'd like to make on this whenever and I don't want to stop the funds discussion. The fund funds
funds fund in in reference to the bins. Did you have more on the bins? Well, sorry. No, she didn't say she said right now we have six, I believe. Six bins. Six bins. Well, we had six from for I
believe you actually sold one of them. I did and I have one downstairs, right? I I don't think we should buy a big order like forever, but I think we should just come up with a number and buy some more off of them because it's you're going to get a splash and then you're not going to sell any. We got to figure out storage where we going to put them
and most of these pounds are sitting on them. So, I know you can buy them without buying bulk. Yep. something, right? Unless we're interested in buying bulk with another town and split the order. Um, especially if you get another point
for doing that, that would be good. Ask a kind of a question, I guess. Um, we're talking about buying bins, etc. We we need to get some momentum behind
the program uh to to make people aware of the fact that they can help reduce they the general public can help reduce their costs
by removing those things which they could compost and put in composting bins which we're offering. So how much momentum out there is there for this program? I asked Leanne um or Karen, sorry, what I could do to set up a Facebook page for the board of
health solid waste so I can because Facebook seems to be where everybody is. Um so I believe it's going to be on the selection's next agenda for the board of health to have a Facebook page so we can start. Well, I I like the town's website. I
towns Facebook also because you already have an audience. Yeah. Because if you create a new one, you're not going to have the same size audience. Yeah. So, how many are on the list from the different events we had on order? Four. Yeah. Four in order.
Not a lot of momentum behind you. Well, no, but here again, I know the event that I was at, horrible day, rain, wind, pestilence, all that. Um, we're going to set up a page. Okay.
What are we going to say on that page? Number one. And number two, when we get down to the language, would it be possible for the selectman to approach the other boards uh elected boards and during their meeting to say,
"Oh, by the way, let's say for the sake of argument, the planning board say just make an announcement. Oh, by the way, we'd like to make an announcement for the board of health that this is available." and a quick little snippet just as as much information and exposure
out there as possible because again I I view this as a very very significant way to save Oh absolutely you know um but I watermelon out the other day and that bag was heavy. I know. No, but I mean if we if we get
the language like this is the issue, uh this is what you can do, this is how you can do it and this is what it would mean on the page and then get it addressed uh again at each recorded meeting. I I
think that would add some real momentum and I think um I don't think there's much else we can do other than individual mailings. Watch the meetings though. I'm sorry. Well, here again, if if maybe 10 people watch the meetings, you know, it's it's 10 people that are now exposed
to this information, you know, I mean, well, if we do them, what you're suggesting is a marketing campaign, correct? So if we do it right and enough people will watch the selectman's meeting. So we make it on the
announcement in other announcements and then Peter has selectman's corner which gets more views than I would than I imagined. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, and it's not like we're going to be sitting on a thousand
uh uh um compost bins back there. You know, how how long does it take to get them? I think Well, they were on hand in order, right? Yeah. So, we can just full order to answer your question. I don't know how long the full order comes in. Okay. Yeah. Uh I mean, I hate to see stuff tied up
in inventory. We have the 250th anniversary committee and they're talking about buying these coins and they wanted to buy 250 which like I said to me was crazy because we have these anniversary coins from before that we're still sitting on at town hall and my
opinion was go a lower number 7550 run out. Yeah. Worth more when you Right. Um, so as far as these bins go, I mean, if we if we place an order or even split it with a town, another town, it still sounds like an awful lot of bins
that we can go pick up at any time from for River, I would assume, right? Or any any city that Yeah. Well, can I getting back to the marketing campaign or the marketing campaign? Uh,
Elizabeth, would you be willing to sit down with me and you and I could draft something up, you know, regard what would which could be uh used for this marketing campaign and then maybe next meeting. Absolutely. We could look at the, you know, everybody could look at the language
and then figure out how we're going to put it out there. But could we would you be Yeah, I'll go on your schedule. Yeah. you know, and I mean, it shouldn't take us that long, too. But we could you got to think where you see a lot of traffic. So, if you know, Strawberry Vine might be a good place to put it,
right? Yeah. I mean, there's plenty of places to put it. We put it in a a mailer that we send out, but add it to something. I'd rather be in the position of Excuse me. I'd rather put Tom in the position of saying, "Do you know, we've
run out, but as opposed to sitting there with inventory, right? That That's fine. I'd like to also her not to have an order. She got four bins waiting to go out. We have the bins. Let's get them out. They've been waiting a while. These people were excited
to get going on it. I would say, "Let's get them." And then once their neighbors see it and then their neighbors see it, you know, word of mouth sometimes is the best. Now, how much on the I forget? uh 65 and the resident only pays 30
which is cheaper than what you get from Amazon and it's huge. It's really big. It is the most difficult thing to do is put it together but once you put one together every time somebody comes in to buy bags I tell them about it. Y I'm telling them
Oh, you're telling them about it. This seems to be the ideal location to let people know. Yeah. Now ask the stores if they can put up a flyer at the door. Can we do that? Shells and gas. Doesn't hurt.
Yeah. To them. I mean, you can't force them to put it. How How do you sell? You only can do check only where you are. Check. Okay. You can't do a card. No, but we approved at the last meeting to be able to sell them. Uh Paul Reynolds is going to open up an account
for me and then I'll do the same thing you do at the transfer station which I got to get with you to see how you do it because it's going to be the same setup. Yeah, it through the same bank. Uh it's just a card reader. What's card reader? 11 bucks or something? Not a tablet.
Yeah, but you can use it on your main computer because you're right there. All right. It's just a card reader that goes in a USB. Uh uh you might have to get an adaptive USB 2 on yours. I don't know if you have a USB on yours. Yeah, I'll come see how you have it set up.
But it that's a very minimal account. I I don't we the use of checks haven't gone down transfer station. We I'm surprised really. Um but holy cow because because we don't offer it all over the place. If you offer plastic one
over time, it's going to get much better. Yeah. I also have to take into consideration there's a fee for using the card, right? Mhm. You know what that is? Not for us. Oh, you don't have one? No. No. It goes on the customer. Yeah. Yeah. Well, how much?
It's probably why these using checks, right? I use checks. Do you know how much the fee is? It's dependent on your card. Percent. Yes. It's a percentage. It's usually around three bucks or as high as eight
bucks. Wow. Depending on your card. That's your convenience fee. Yes. Mhm. Yeah. That always cracks me up. That must be American Express. Well, anyway, I will um you know, the other thing I will, it's okay with you, Elizabeth. Um this week or next week,
I'll mail you email you some thoughts and we can Yeah. work back and Would that be all right with you? Yeah, it's got to be something like just short and sweet because no one wants to sit there and read three paragraphs of Yeah, very short and sweet. We need to have something that just grabs them at the first
Yeah. Well, something like what is it? Why is it the weight? How would you go about it? I tell you the watermelon story is the best. You know, it is actually the So, it's your idea. We still We still have, right? Yeah. Yeah. We were talking about last week. Yeah.
We still have the Towns of Somerset six compost bins that we picked up for them when we picked up our six. They're still at the garage. They've sent an email. Oh, we forgot we'll be over there or whatever. Still there. I would I would sell them on them. Sure. Absolutely. All right.
Go. Oops. Yeah. Normally I take my like food if I'm not going to eat it and give it to the neighbor because she has a farm. But this watermelon had mold on it. So I was like, I'm throwing it away. But man, it double the weight in my bag. Just that one. The mold's fine. Especially chickens.
They love that. Yeah. They like mold. Yeah. They like the mold, but they're after the green. It's like innocent. Mold ain't going to hurt them. It is. So, we'll get together and I'll email, you know, some thoughts and we can just go back and forth that way.
You guys want me to go downstairs and call Missy? I don't know. I don't I wouldn't She's pretty good. So, maybe she's forgotten. She has a Zoom link. Um, doesn't change, right?
Do you have her phone number? Oh, I was just going to look, but I see that the police department tried to call me and I missed that. She might not. You see all back? Yep.
She might end up staying on the phone if she's driving. Good afternoon. How are you? Hello. I I I can hear you. Okay. You're on speaker phone at our meeting. Uh are you going to zoom in or
do you want to stay on the phone? Uh Tom. Yes. Okay. Okay. Oh, good. I can hear you. You can hear me. Yes. So, what's up? So, we're in a solid waste reduction meeting that is down at Dayton.
Okay. I thought it was a four. Nope. No. We start at three. I thought it was a four. I'm sorry. Shoot. Okay. Are are you able to zoom in or you want to stay on the phone? What would you like to do? I can whatever is easier for you guys. Um I mean being on the
phone's fine. Fine with me. Yeah, I had a um Okay. All right. We we just uh while we're waiting for you, we were discussing the compost bins. We're going to continue.
Uh we're going to we have an order only have four back order. We're going to sell what we have and start. Okay. And we're gonna Bob and Elizabeth is going to work on a campaign advertisement campaign. We'll get going on that and try to get momentum.
It feels like we want to just stay with buying them from surrounding towns, you know, small orders rather than doing a larger order. Okay. Okay. Um Yeah. So, let me let me see who has what. um like a fall river was worked out that could be the easiest. Since
they haven't built you yet for it, they might be the most logical, right? Um so, um they could build do it all at one time. Um and help them get their inventory. They way over order. Yeah. So, that that that makes that makes sense that we just buy some from
them. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So, four that's actually pretty good. Okay. for a town your a town your size and um not doing a lot of promotion and stuff. So So I that gives me a good feeling that we'll have more better
results when you do more of a campaign um like have you know actually one put together um like in you know um somewhere where there's space to do that. I don't know if in the health department there is in the little lobby there. Um but you know
getting getting an actual model out doing something with the library. Yeah. Now that Yay. Now the library is all built. Yeah. I think Elizabeth probably has enough room to to keep like three or four there and we'll just maintain that inventory for you know we we'll store them somewhere else.
Yeah. Um and then definitely like we could see if we could um get a presentation with the library and I could go ahead and do that. and we could record that or whatever as well. Okay. Um that that'll be good for the library
and for for the sales of them as well. And to be honest, the absolute best time for composting is in the fall. Nobody thinks of this. They always think of gardening in the spring, but the reality is the number one component you
need for composting are brown fall leaves. And the best time to get those are in the fall. So, um I'm trying to get everyone to start, you know, pushing pushing them then. So, it's a perfect time. So, how many more did you want
from um Fall River? Well, we still got we still got six from Somerset they never picked up and they they know we have them because they reached out. Some never picked them up. Shoot. Okay. Yeah. I'm think Yeah. If they're not going to pick them up, we'll keep them and just get 12
more. Okay. Okay. So, um Okay. So, I'll get them from Somerset. And we still got the buckets that we were not supposed to get. That's got to go back to four of them. Yeah. Or maybe they it might be easier just to keep them and sell those. Um
I'll talk about them about So, so currently you have all 12 bins. No, we Yes. Yes, we have all 12 bins. Compost bins. And then you have how many of the uh small countertop food scrap buckets?
Yes, it was 12 also. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, yeah, you keep those and then um I'll work out something for um summer stuff. Okay. Okay. Cool. And so for now, that's actually really good. Okay. Um and then
um you know if we run out and or Fall River doesn't want to sell anymore whatever we can um get more from other communities or we could look to having a couple of communities work together and get one big order together. Right. That that'll be that'll be a nice
problem to solve. Right. Say that again. That would be a nice problem to solve in the future. Yes, it would be. Um, but like I said, the fact that you've done four with really no work or effort, um, I'm I'm pretty confident you guys are going to do a good job. And everyone has people have big yards on there, so it's not,
you know, really too much of an issue. So, it's been great. Good job. Okay. Um, and was there anything else about composting that we wanted to talk about? No, I think um I think the point person would be Elizabeth.
Okay. We possibly will have met the transfer station attendant, you know, while that's open. Okay. So, he would be selling them as well. Possibly. Uh we we just got to fine-tune the the accounting stuff. Does usually
when uh the monies come in, do people do a revolving fund or it just goes back to their general and Oh, okay. Okay. What what what what usually happens with the eggs since we're s we're only selling for a portion. Yeah. Yeah. And then also what might be
happening with the whole enterprise fund and all that stuff too might be changing a lot. Yeah. So what what usually happens with that? Um what do you mean? So so it would depend. So what some towns would do is
so the funding for the bucket or excuse me the composters and the buckets would come out of that special uh DP fund for that. Um and then you can
um put the funding for the money if the money that you're getting back for the bins. I've been residents paying about half of it that could go back into your enterprise fund for
Okay. So, uh Missy, there's and here's the confusion. So there there are right sir there are three avenues right as it stands now sales from the uh compost bin will go into the general fund. Oh sorry how you want okay well no that's the I mean that's just
how it is. Uh okay we could we have an opportunity to create a revolving fund which where the funds we take in will be dedicated to buying more compost bins. Okay. And then the third option is if we
is if we do um have an enterprise fund. But I think Tom's question was in your experience out of those three what do towns usually what have you seen most towns doing? To be honest it's all over the place and
not one is more utilized more than the other. Okay. It's just whatever kind of what your town traditionally how they would handle things like that. Okay. Um so it you know again if it depends on whether a town has they sell curbside
trash bins or recycling bins and all that. So it really depends on what is easiest and best for you. Okay. Um, so I mean I think I think to be honest probably like going back into the enterprise fund would be best because
the program um is you know the funding the additional funding for this is coming from the master um grant. So you know it's kind of staying within that environment of you know helping
with your trash reduction and the costs contained for that. Right. Yeah. Okay. And then the other question I wanted to talk about, I mentioned this I think a couple years ago is the possibility of
reaching out to Norfolk Aggie. I'm sorry, not a county, sorry, wrong county, Bristol Aggie. um see if if they would be open to having actual food co food scrap uh composting
within their um their school grounds. And um because they are probably most likely composting the cow manure and all that stuff anyway and looking to see if they were, you know, interested or um open to doing something some type of
arrangement like that. um for a couple reasons that would allow your residents you could either have a picked up at the curb and then they could go to you know the school or residents could drop it off the school whatever. Um but then again that's removing a very significant
portion of your trash from being disposed and that would be financially a really good benefit for the town. The other thing is is that the school can also um incorporate this type of thing into their um school curriculum because they do have an environmental science
class. Um so the thing is they could actually create a business out of this compost and sell it um that they're having, you know, cow manure mixing with it as well. So it's they're going to have some pretty decent um compost there. So it is something that they
could really look to. I mean, it's not something that's going to happen this year, but you know, having that dialogue with them because you guys are in a very very unique and special situation being right next to them. Yeah. Yeah. We'll have to explore that.
Yeah. Um I I know there the manure is in a slurry system. So the actual micro you know the breakdown with the microbes is probably not happening conventionally what you're familiar with. So they
they're just using a slurry system. So when you're saying a slurry system is that like an anorobic digtor? No, it's just it just stays as a slurry. It does never get Okay. Yeah. Got it. Got it. Okay. Okay. Um and and that's how that's how they
spread it too. We could be talking about later down the road because there is um large substantial grant funding for this because we have a dire need for these types of facilities or options um
down where we are down here. Um, and it would be a huge bin for you guys just to get rid of basically 20 20 20 to 25% of your trash, right? Okay. Big plan.
Yep. Anything else? Yes. Okay. So, back at the top of the agenda was the the first discussion we were supposed to have is with the swap shed operation details. Yeah. Yep.
So, um who's at the meeting currently? Peter, Elizabeth, Bob, Mr. Vacaco, and myself. Okay. Um so what would have to happen is we would have to create a basic uh rules
of what we want to have in the in the um the the swap shed. I can send you some uh information. My colleague finally sent me excuse me um a list of um what she has. Um so I have a bunch of different samples. Um, a couple of other
nearby towns have also added them. So, I can look to see what they have um for, you know, what what they're not accepting, that kind of thing. Um, but pretty straightforward. So, we can just look at the samples of what we what they want what they're taking um and look at
look at it from that point of view. So, I'll get I'm making little notes here. So, here we are in August. Here we are in August now. We we'll find out if we get approved for the shed in December. Correct.
By the very Excuse me. By the very latest. Yes. So we probably within three months we would want to have this in place. Correct. Oh yeah. Well, the thing is you've got to so not necessarily because by the time you get awarded the grant and then
Don has to fill out the paperwork for it like signing to approve it and all this stuff and then by the time the state like sends the money to Dyon, you're most likely looking into January and then then you're going to want to, you know, buy a shed. Um, and that might not
be a bad time. Hopefully, ideally it'd be great if it would be a little bit earlier. That way you could get uh sheds that are um on clearance because they're trying to clear them out for the winter. Um but yeah, so okay, I don't know when you'd want to start it and all that stuff, but you would need
to have, you know, I would highly recommend a a pad for it or some type of, you know, um stone structure underneath it or whatever, pebbles or whatever you call it. Okay. So, that needs to remain in the minutes. Yeah.
Location. It might be various locations like you alluded to and then um go from there. Okay. So, I'm putting on rules to be able to get those actually before the next meeting. Okay. I'll just pop those out.
Does that put you way out or is that that's easy? That's probably easier for you to do than anyone else, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Uh, next on the agenda was grant opportunities. And I think that's
written like that because of that email I talked to you about. Um, that person from Western Mass was trying to find out why our website doesn't say things about the swap shed opportunities or walk items. I think that's what that was alluding to. Is that correct, Elizabeth?
Is that why it says grant up to it? Yeah. Yeah. So, where are we with that? Are we like in trouble or we got to change websites right now? No. So, I need to go back. So, what what exactly was your um email again? Let me check it out.
So, you're not in trouble. So, what it is is every year they go through and they review the grants. They just make sure like what you're saying um in the grant application is um available for them to see the documentation. and hap
you're not in trouble because a lot of times over the summer, especially with the new calendar year, a lot of towns almost kind of like clean up their website and get rid of stuff. So things that used to be there disappear. Um or you have IT people who don't think
it's important and they get rid of it. So that's very common. So what they're doing is they're kind of giving you a heads up saying this isn't there. Can you get it up there? So, one of the things, not everyone knows the conversation me and Missy had. So, one of the things they need to see in a
website is if we're referring stuff like the Lions Club or the Boy Scouts for Yacht Sale stuff, um, can we utilize the town website to refer them to those places? I don't see why not.
Um, almost like because we do it because they they make the announcement at the selectman's meeting. Yeah. And also the the Facebook the buy nothing site for Don also it's a Facebook thing. So you got them three entities. You're not picking just one favorite.
You can throw it out there. They can do what they want and it gets it out of the waist stream. Sure. So is there any legalities? If you could let if you let anyone do it, you don't have any it shouldn't be any issue. Right. Yeah. So we're not we're not just
targeting lines, but Right. Are you not performing a public service by doing that? Yes, that's what the general public that's what is looking for, right? We don't have the shed yet, but we we already are referring large items to get them out of the way screen. We just need to do they need to see it in the website.
Okay. No. And that that would check it off. I can't I can't even imagine that would be an issue. Well, I I don't know. I don't know. Well, what if what if like uh No, never mind. But, you know, I mean, if it if it has to be on the website,
fine. But, I mean, my goodness, this is Well, we're not we're not targeting one entity out there. Sure. No problem. Okay. So, we can do that behind the scenes. Myself and Elizabeth or Leanne will get that done. So, so the thing is like one of the things that we had talked about um a few
times is like improving the outreach and education. And one of the things that's I think really helpful for residents is like having like a little tab or a little section that says um other ways that you can uh other ways in the community that you can get rid of stuff you know that you can you know recycle
or re re you know donate or whatever. And then you know um kind of looking at what's available in the community. So one of the places um Staples like Staples will take a lot of electronics for free so the town doesn't have to
deal with it. So pointing residents to like you know local Goodwills or you know charity shops and then definitely mention the events that the Lions Club have or the Boy Scouts or you know events that you know and encourage residents that you know if they're going to um you know if they have events or
whatever that they let you know like if the school's going to have I don't know a collection for whatever that they you know let the town know and the town can help them post it um you know to get word out to residents. and stuff like that. Okay.
And sometimes don't allow that. They don't allow any outside, you know, mention of anybody else, right? Yeah. We'll make sure that's taken care of. Okay. Okay. So, yeah, that'll have to be
done by Let's see what the date. Okay. Um, yeah, that lady, I forget who what her name was. Yeah, it got quiet. She emailed me two weeks in a row and then now it's quiet. So, I don't know if I'm on a bad list. She's on vacation.
Yes. So, here it is. Here it is. Okay. In the reuse section, you claim points in the following category. Municipality hosts or coordinates and promotes a communitywide yard sale or bulky item collection day where unusable and/or
leftover items are collected and the municipality or an organization contacted by the municipality directs items to donation reuse and recycling organization. So, the town works with
the Lion's Club um to make sure those things do not go in the trash. you work with that the thrift store guy and cotton and you know whatever other and then the other thing is it's not mentioned on your website anywhere but Tom told me this is that you know the
Lions Club also saves some of this stuff so that when uh you know those in your community have a need for it then you save it and give it to them as well. So that's not mentioned on the website. So, you know, having something like that on there, you know, like what the Lions
Club, you know, does or, you know, if it goes to the Council on Aging or if it goes to the health department, like how how people would, you know, contact the town for, you know, these items. Yeah, it's easy enough. Like, and like you pointed out, we have to have an actual contact there. That's
what when we whenever D is doing that audit, they want to see an actual contact name and number, right? Okay. So that would need to be done date, but um I would say by the end of August.
Yes, that that's easy enough. Yep. Okay. Okay. Um I'm looking through the agenda. The only thing that's left is bag pricing that I see on the agenda and review and reviewing accepted minutes. So bag pricing, trash bag pricing is
next in the agenda. That was something I had brought up um and asked to be put on the agenda. I think we're too low on the DAGs. I think we can go up. Uh Missy was telling us at the selection last
selection meeting some of the other towns and their prices and considering we have no other way of that we're going to if we're going to continue to provide provide this service, we've got to recoup the cost somehow.
And I think bags um my thought was raising it to $30 for the large which would put it at $3 a bag. I think still think that that's doable. If I if I may, I I I had this um Peter
and I were talking about it uh last week and um one of the things um we're going to do just to make life to have some consistency, especially for uh the residents of the town of Dayton, every October, I would
like to do a um sort of what we call a fee hearing. So, you know, we could raise fees uh or review fees and if necessary raise them incrementally every every year. Uh when I talked to Peter, you know, we kind of had the same idea.
$3 a bag for the large bag, dollar$1 dollar$ dollar50 for the small bags. And by doing that, I know it's it won't be a big amount. Uh but it will the town based on the numbers that Liz you had provided last year to me um we're
looking at probably uh coming in at you know about another 26 27,000 just to put that in perspective um I was able to do some forecasting for our total for our total uh sanit total
sanitation for well fiscal year 26 which we know the total is going to be about 900 44,000. Uh but you know, the good thing we have the contracts with Borges and with uh with CES. Um fiscal year 27 we're
looking at almost uh $997,000 and fiscal year 28 over a million a million41,000. So um we have to do something and if we do in I mean you know one of the things
if we don't if we don't do an enterprise fund or or even if we do an enterprise fund we should bags um as Missy as you did have your very good presentation um it's we we we can't rely on bad costs
but they are there to augment other costs. So, um I think it's it's reasonable. I think um going up from 280 a bag to $3 a bag, it's reasonable. Raises a little bit of money and I I don't think people will there'll be a
big rush on the bags like we had because we had a big jump, right? A big jump last year. Oh, yeah. Yeah. and we don't have to change bags and you know that puts us that increase you proposing that puts us where you had us on a the
last time you put all the numbers together I think we were hovering around $30 a bag I mean for a bundle of lodge right no well when I was what what I did for the enterprise fund is that one no I was talking about Bob's report
oh Bob's oh yeah what Bob did last year yes it was right around $30 a large bundle. It was. Yeah. And that's where you're going to put us, right? But that that was that was math that got you there and we brought it back because of the sticker shop.
Well, that was a large jump. That it was it was now you talking 20 cents. Well, how much revenue would that estimated revenue? 27 28,000 more by by going up to That's right. You said Yeah. No, no, that's fine. This is just the overall This isn't the big numbers.
These are just the overall numbers. But I like the idea of that uh fee uh making people aware every October that these are the fees and where the stickers go up for the transfer station.
It's it's not broken up throughout the year. It's these are the fees. This is what things are going to go up because of these XYZ reasons. I think it's I just in general people will know you know our our permit fees
going up for building zoning and so it just becomes you know in October I like I like October except for it's just a question because I'm new here. Um does have the power to set the rates
right? Not it doesn't need to go to a a special or an annual rate. No. Um, so you guys have control of that, right? The only thing is, and I had talked to Ralph about this, does it have to go the the bag prices have to go to the board of health and then they recommend it to the board of selectman
or can the selectman initiate it on their own? It should go through the board of health because it should go. Yeah, because But does it have to? Uh, right now the board of health is in disarray, right? Well, they're incomplete. Let's say they're incomplete. Okay. A common way
of putting it. Yeah, they're coming. Yeah. Yeah. Um, no. I I think the the selectman since they have the authority to set the fees, they could unilaterally increase any, right? Any fees that's under that's under their purview.
Okay. Right. So, usually usually, right, it's the department that u that oversees that fee should should make the recommendation. I um this this year because the timing of it
and maybe always do it all the respective boards and committees can be at that meeting where it's being set, right? And they can post a meeting ahead of time and do a separate just like you do with the finance committee, right? You have more than one agenda at the same time. Yeah. But it it could be as simple as they
could send in a letter. Yeah. and say, "What we going to talk about?" Well, I think um you know, I'm I'm trying to look at this thing holistically and from a taxpayers perspective.
If you're going to do this, uh normally the special town meeting in the fall is October time frame, right? I think it would in general make the process a little bit simpler if
um and and I agree with the the proposal here, you know, so we need to increase the fees, but have a presentation connected with the the the special town meeting. Maybe only 50 people show up as
per usual, but point being, it's on record that we're going to go. This is the fee for what? I'm sorry. It's all right. [Music] Okay. Took care of that. You want to take it? No.
Um, this is the fee. This is what it costs last year. This is what we charged last year. It increased to this. Therefore, we need to increase because, you know, I I default back to the thing I always say. If you show people the data, you know, they can say, well, a
selectment just arbitrarily. No, right? This is what we need to do in general with fees. And I like the idea of a annual fee review, right? But I think it should, if we could put it all in the same place at the same
time to the general public and link it to perhaps the special town meeting, right? Yeah. But that infers that I would say I think that's a great idea. Um totally. Um and then because residents know and they also get used to
the idea that prices go up. It's not like a matter of tightening your belts because you've already got this contract and there's not an option for that. The I think it's the town of Wayland. I mean, granted, not a a good comparison, but they actually have monthly on their
website what their trash bill is like exactly. So residents know how much it is, how much the hauling is, how much they're paying for recycling and all this stuff. And then at the end of the year, they compile it all into, you know, one big document. But residents have access to that like on a continual
basis. So um you know having whether you do it monthly or annual it really educates your residents about the programming and then they can they themselves can kind of see like oh maybe I we should compost you know maybe we you know what we can do. Um there are
things that we as a household can do to keep these costs down for me and for the town as well. The other thing is I want to I want to caution particularly with the um bag prices. So what's kind of what happens is because it's it's very
common that in most municipalities the um the select board does not need any votes or anything like that um beyond their own to set the fee price. So politically they find it much easier just to kind of always increase the be
the feed price but they never look at the bag price and one community um I believe it's Medford Med excuse me Medway um they have a very high fee cost and they have a very low bag cost and
they also have very high tonnage because they haven't reflected the bag costs uh to residents where they go oh it's nothing like I don't I'm not paying a lot. So, make sure that you always have it in balance that you're always looking at the fee in the bag cost going up as
well. So, you know, looking at a tandem type type idea um because the bags are designed to help keep the trash low um beyond, you know, if you don't go up to a really high rate, right? Um, so the other thing that I'm going to um
suggest and with the whole enterprise fund and the fee thing to look into um what we call private hauler regulations and what might happen again I did this in the presentation with the select board is you might have a handful of residents who go oh this is a pain in
the eyeballs I don't want to deal with this and they'll say oh I'm going to call a hauler yes it might cost them more but they you know, the whole it's easier or whatever. Um, but you want to be able to track uh the residents who
are doing that. And then also, you want to ensure that they are having access to recycling so that they're not, you know, putting it in their neighbors recycling um with that kind of thing. So, um you want to make sure that we have these in
place. They're very easy to do. um boards of health can pass them. Um or if you want to go to a town meeting, that's that's another option as well. But the health department can pass those and again it just it just kind of lets you know
trash and stuff are out on your streets as well. Yeah, Elizabeth said the board of health is already been discussing that. We've done that before in the past. It's a good and all that stuff. It's it's a good thing to do, you know, to get these dumpsters on cement pads and off town property, stuff like that, that permit
process. And also they they get the haulers to give us the tonnage of their trash and the recycling. Correct. Exactly. Exactly. And the only way to do that is with a permit process out of it. Again, making sure they have access to the recycling through their
hauler. So, like I said, they're not, you know, putting the cost of their recycling back onto the town and the town isn't getting any um, you know, financial money back on it. So, again, making sure that happens. The Does the private hauler refer to the
people who have those bins as well? Yes. So, private haulers would be anyone who um contacts a resident who contacts a um um hauler on their phone and they have a contract with them or a verbal
agreement, whatever they have. Can it can also we can also do that with the commercial businesses as well so that they get that so nobody's bringing home their recycling from work or whatever. Sure. Oh, yeah. I have samples and templates
for templates for uh if the health department wants to use those. But um that's one of those things that we're looking at. Yeah, if you can send them to me, Missy, that would be great. Okay. Okay, great. Your idea of every every October you can call it fetober or something.
Um but you know, that's good and getting your residents understand it. Yeah, you education process for that because then people are going to be when are taxes due uh December, right? Well, we could most people say just start January
get the IRS credit for that fiscal year calendar year or just cancel town taxes. Okay. Um, does anyone at the table have anything to ask Missy? Because other than that, we can let it go. We can just approve our minutes and stuff like that
after. Okay. I wanted to ask Missy was we talked about before what people do with hazardous waste into something that we can maybe partner. Oh, yes. So, I get a lot of calls things um with hazardous waste. Um,
thank you for reminding us on my to-do list for this week. Um what I am trying to create down down in this part of my district is um what is called a um reciprocal event and up in the northern
part um like do and Walpole and Hollist and all them there's about eight of them and they all work together they sign anou and what it is is that their residents can attend a household hazardous waste event in another town
and um then the other town their residents can attend it in your town. You don't have I believe does not offer hazardous waste if it is something that you wanted to do and work possibly with
other towns and split the cost. Let's say you know you got two other towns that wanted to split the $10,000 cost roughly what it would be. Um, you could all do that and then you would you could also still be part of this bigger group,
you know, of like 20 other towns. Um, and your residents could go to theirs and their residents would go to yours. There's no, don't worry, you don't pay for like, you know, three million pe people from Taton coming to use it for free. There would be uh some tracking going on and like, you know, let's say
Taton for example, though, um, they would pay Dyon for their residents to use their facility. Um, and then the other thing is, um, the possibility of working with, you know, Taton to see if you could work up something with them
where your residents could attend their events as well. So, um, it's something that I'm kind of working on where we all work together. But being that Don doesn't have one, you know, the the cheapest would be to, you know, work with maybe, you know, um, you know,
other towns to see if you could split the cost or, you know, help pay for your residents attending there. What cost does it fall on the biggest the biggest cost is like the um the site fee. So they, you know,
just to show up it costs like, I don't know, $5,000, you know, and everything above that is, you know, what the cost of the actual items are, right? So by, you know, going with somebody else, it really brings the economy or scale down to where it's not bad. This really should this really should be
part of the education component with the other things we want to get out there because if they buy things correctly, they're not going to have hazardous waste. You always buy what you need only. You don't buy an extra gallon of paint. And and a lot of people, I don't
know if Elizabeth is feeling them, but most of the calls I get is about latex paint and that should go dry out and throw in the trash, right? Yeah. Um so that latex paint and there is a a company that does collect it, but again, you could also have um part of your uh
swap shed. you could have, you know, a little section for paint, you know, good used paint that has not been frozen and is not more than, I think it's like eight years old. Um, that that could, you know, get a lot of fertilizers, cleaners, I get, uh, oil paints, pesticides. I get a
lot of those. Yeah, that can be used up. They just got to find someone to use them. That's what I tell them. It's very unlikely it's oil paint, though, because very few people buy an oil paint. Well, I think it stains. Oh, yeah. You still use it up. Stains. You
use it up. Put on a shed floor. So, I And unfortunately, I hate to say it, a lot of times is when um people move or uh pass away, you know, someone else is all of a sudden going, "Oh my gosh, the whole shed is full of this stuff." So, um but yeah, trying to use it up. And
then also depending on the chemicals and stuff, you know, if it's, you know, Drano, um, you know, like the whole, you know, buy nothing groups, you know, somebody else might want a container of Drano, um, whatever. Correct. Yeah. If you, if you put this, uh, these
materials that you just mentioned in the swap shed, uh, would you need to have a special storage permit for that? So, so not for paint, but I I for other household chemicals. Yeah, you would have to do that. But what I'm saying is
like the buy nothing group. So on Facebook, someone go on, they're like, "Oh, my mother-in-law came over and you know, you know, their sink was clogged. She bought drain. Oh, I don't use this stuff. You know what? Can I you know, can anyone use this?" You know, and then someone say, "Oh, yeah, sure. I'll use
it. I don't have a problem with it." and then they'll go over to their house, pick it up on their porch or whatever and take it away. But within the swatch set itself, like if you just did latex paint, that would be, you know, you literally could even get um a little
rubber made kind of separate uh container kind of thing, you know, if you wanted to do that or a special section within the shed for do that as well. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Good. And then so before you do all your meetings and I
go, when is the next meeting and the time? For some reason, I thought it was four o'clock. It can't be September 1st. That's meeting. Oh, is right. Yeah. Oh, we're discussing it now. Okay.
Maybe the 8th. We can't we can't we can't entertain the we can't entertain the ETH. Yeah. would if it's you want on a Monday because I said September 1st is Labor Day. So, let me ask you again if it's available
and then I'll send out an email. Sure. All right. Uh how about the time? 3:00 work. 3 o'clock for me. Okay. So, we're we're going to target September 8th, 3:00.
3 o'clock. Okay. It's in my calendar now. Pending the town calendar. If it's something if there's a problem, we will get back to you. Okay. Okay. Sounds good. Um, sounds good. And I do apologize for the confusion in my calendar. I was like getting all ready to go there. Um, and
yeah, so anything if you need me, let me know. And what I will do is I will send the rules about the swatches to you. And um, also send the private hauler regulation templates and information.
And if you need me to be at a health department meeting, let me know. I can also do that. And I think we're about pretty good. Um, so is there anything you want me to do regarding the bag prices and and anything like that or is
that something you want to handle? Oh, so one of the thoughts you might want to do is once when you run out of the packages of 10, you might want to look into talking with way zero about having packages of five. Um, you know, that's
kind of to be honest, that is the most common package of bags that are sold or packages of five because a 10 can get a little pricey once you start, you know, going up. We just received an order, but yeah, we'll we're all taking notes on that. Yeah.
And and the other thing on your to-do list was to communicate with Forever. Yes. Okay, that's right. For River, thank you. Okay. Yeah. So, so yeah, you can you can definitely you
can definitely keep all the bins and I'll just get them the billing set up and see if they want to sell more as it as the time comes around, right? Um and then Liz um let's work on um the education campaign and let me know
like if we can reach out to the library and um do a presentation. Also, the Council on Aging um especially if they have a Oh, they do have a little garden back there. might be back there one night. Um, you know, if we they want me to do anything there as well um on
composting. Yep. All right. I'll get with the library. Okay. Okay. Sounds good. Thank you. Good night, guys. Hang on a second. Hang on a second. Okay. We had one member came in a little late. You got a question for Missy before we
let her go? No, I just want to make a We're not going to close the meeting. We're just going to get her off. I want to make a note about that thing I told you about the Rhode Island brochure on composting. Okay. They put it out. I'll get it I'll get it to Liz.
Okay. And you Okay. You guys can follow up on it because I really think there should be something. Yeah. Going out letting people know. Yeah. Especially what they're saying and how they're doing it. Yes. Yeah. Okay. All right. Missy, you take you take care.
Thank you. Bye. Bye. Right. This was on composting and stuff. Yeah, it's a brochure on composting. Oh, yeah. Because we we had talked earlier uh I was going to get with it a back and forth email on um composting, you know, like a what, why,
where just sort of a PR campaign, but if you could send I'll get it in. Yeah. And we could use that as a basis for what we want to do. Would that be okay with you, L? I just thought somebody could send for a copy or something like that. See what it's all about.
Do you have an email address or anything for them or probably I don't know. Yeah, I think there is one on the ad. Yeah. Okay. Which town again? It's state of Rhode Island. State of Rhode Island. Okay. Okay. Yeah. They're so small they can do it as a state.
Yeah. Situ take so much room in the middle and they can't do much because of the reservoir. There's really not much left in the state when you think about it. I mean, take golf courses for example. There's none in that middle because of the reservoir.
Like really easy a pill to swallow to just start charging for recycling instead of increasing bag fees. Like you can tell people you've never had to pay for recycling before. Unfortunately, you have to stop paying for it. Why don't we make income in the recycling?
that would increase the tonnage and trash. We don't have enough um our hall doesn't bring in enough recycling. So, one of the things we're going to look at is uh talking has missy maybe we could team up with some other towns and sort of
make money off recycling that way so we have enough aggregate weight so that so uh so we could all share in that recycling. I think the problem Peter mentioned before was our recycling is just not clean. It's not our recycling is clean. Yeah,
it's one of the cleanest. We've never done the cleanest. We would never done an audit, which we should. You get points for that, too. But just people knowing that you might do an audit in any part of the town. It gets very clean. Yeah. But Peter Borges is on that like
white on rice. He makes sure that's clean. It has to be clean because the load can get rejected and we be paying a different fee. Yeah. Yeah. I thought we were responsible for cleaning it. PETA cleans it. No, no, the people clean, but for the for the most part, he says that goes in,
it's pretty clean. The residents of D put in put in pretty clean recycling. That's that's what he told me. Yeah. So, I heard a lot of it wasn't recyclable because it was dirty. Let let me just go through the agenda real quick so Mr. Ne can hear where we
are on the things. So on old business, we discussed the swap shed operation details. Missy's going to be getting a few samples from other towns. We got plenty of time because if we we'll probably get the shed awarded in the grant and that's not
until se December. We probably wouldn't purchase it until January. So we got plenty of time. And this is kind of tied in with the B on old business discuss grant opportunities. Um DP checked our website and it's not
clear on because we did talk about before we never who checked the website DP. Okay. Because I want to make sure we're advertising certain things correctly and like Lions Club taking items or Boy Scout taking items and uh buy nothing
Facebook page. We just need to add that to our website in the town side with their contact information and that that's part of the grants that we we already received. So they we need to that's tied in with the that's actually tied in with the swap shed because you want to reduce waste. Those are items
that can be reused and not going to waist stream. And then uh we discussed the compost bins. Missy's going to go back to the town of For River. We'll get a small order. We do have a back order now.
Elizabeth is going to call them and get rid of the inventory we have now and sell the compost bins and we'll get a small order from forever rather than buy a big order and have an inventory that would probably won't sell the whole thing. If it takes off and we get a big demand that's a good problem. We can
solve that when it comes but right now we don't have the big demand. You don't have any expectations for this? Um, our town is unique because people have backyards. So, there is an interest out there. There is interest out there. And as far
as getting food waste out of the whole waist stream, we're going to that's tied in further down. Uh, one of us is going to have a dialogue with the Aggie school and possibly do a compost there with the waist stream if it gets that big.
But um because I think I think you think it should be more mandatory and not you don't think there's an appetite for bins, right? The compost bins in the yards. Yeah. I'll be surprised if you get over 50%. Right. Well, 50% is a very big number.
That is big. Yeah. She was happy that we had four in back order. I think you're going to be surprised if I get over 50. 50 total. Yeah. Yeah. notes with that one is uh the three options Ralph said to do with the income
was either revolving fund um general fund general funds revolving fund or the last one stabilization enterprise fund enterprise stabilization we also discussed bags pricing
um Mr. Karen and Mr. the taco planning. How is this coming to fruition or is this still planning? Just the start of the conversation. Just the start of the conversation. Not just the bag pricing, but all our fees for the town, all the different fees
every year, maybe like October that review the prices every year. So, you get these smaller increments rather than these big jumps. So, that sounds like it might happen, especially with these two get together. If they're on the same page, there's I don't think anyone can
stop that momentum. That's a pretty good thing. Yeah, I think it'll happen. That's going to happen. I think the board of health has them pretty cheap. I got a comment. Right. B the tricky thing, Mr. Neely, is usually the board of health makes a recommendation and they're still getting
new. They're all new members. So, worst case scenario, they'll just have to go to the meeting as a board and give their two cents if they don't get their act together by October. Okay. Yeah. I think that just come from I don't think this board actually has to give a recommendation. We did. Right.
We did a lot of leg work because the board of health wasn't there to do it. Yeah. Before it was the solid waste recommended to the board of health and the vot. Right. Right. Seems a lot a lot of steps. Yeah. It was you're waiting months between meetings. M.
So if you don't have any questions or whatnot, we can entertain except in the minutes from September 1st and we'll hold off. Yeah, June 2nd's probably better and we'll we'll hold off on May May 5th
because May 5th was not on the agenda to accept. So we can entertain the approval of minutes of June 2nd. Mr. Perry added reduced kitchen waste to the agenda. Did you want to touch up on anything with that?
I'm sorry. No, I just the the um the red we talked about was like an education campaign for um towns people how we could go about doing that. Uh and Elizabeth and I were going to work on that just to try to you know
bottom line is educate people to how it could be done. But the more important aspect is taking this and not only making uh something for yourself but taking it out of the kitchen waste out of the waist stream which is we've been
hearing the number 25% of the waste weight that we have to pay for take it out compost it you can use it and we don't have the town doesn't have to pay for it to go in the waist stream but that was as I said it's going to be a PR campaign that we're going to draft
together Yeah. And uh I I don't know if we have the power, but I I strongly recommend hazardous waste stuff. Just even if it's just about latex paint. Yeah. You know, hit one of the biggest things. That is one of the biggest things.
Use up. Give it away. Someone use it up. That's the best way to handle hazardous waste. You shouldn't be going somewhere else for disposal. If it's fertilizer, that's real easy. Use it. Call landscape. Give it to your neighbor. Yes. But I do have some residents that give it to the highway department. I can use it. I use it.
You know, some of it was Roundup, some of it was fertilizer. Yeah. Uh control, you know. I just used it up. Yeah. I have a link on my website. So if anybody asks you, the board of health web page has Right. A move out, Peter might correct me if I'm wrong. A move out is not the
problem of all the residents of town to absorb the right the burden of it. Right. Especially Especially if they died and the family's coming in just to flip the property. Why is that a problem? Yeah, good point. Good point.
Yeah, take it with you. What was your expression? You can't take it with you. Yeah, I was going to say the family. No, I know. I know. But yes, you're right. So, you want a motion to approve the minutes? Yes, please. Motion made second. Any further
discussion for June 2nd? All in favor? I. Any oppose? Okay. Is there anything else that needs to be discussed? No. I like the idea of um going right to the selectman instead of these
different meetings that we miss because um it's just got to come from you anyway. You know what I mean? The bottom line is that's true. Well, that that is the case, but we're always saying when's the next time the board of health meets and it's going to be on their agenda. It's going to be posted. Uh it just seems to me like Ralph and I
had talked about it just seems to be a waste. Uh the other thing, can we go back to the swap for a second? Uh again, Ralph and I had this. No, no, we're spending a lot of energy on it and a lot of time. Is it worth it?
the the expense, the fact that we're going to have volunteers or try to get volunteers to work this thing. Is there enough of a need for it that we should do it? You know, I I Excuse me. Go ahead.
Someone in agreement with you because there are issues that are come going to come about with this thing and we haven't talked about them. That's my two cents with Yeah. What what what kind of issues? So we can Well, my biggest thing is who's going to
run this? Well, that's one. I mean, we're talking about the Lions Club, which has their hands full. They were mentioned, but So, how right now the way I see I make up would be the actual building or shed would be at
the transfer station, right? Available when the transfer station's open. Yep. Missy says that's not enough, but it doesn't have to be there all the time. You could have a table at the library. You could have a table at the Seaway. And who's those staffs can just kind of
oversee it? Yeah. And then if stuff needs to move from there, go to the shed. I guess that's another thing the highway has to do. Uh well, that's uh what I'm saying. Is it worth what we're going to get out of it? Is that much Is it that many tons
are going to stay out of the Right. So, the nice thing about the grant, like she said, you can go for it. Get the shed or shipping container. If it doesn't work, you can keep the shipping container. That's what I was going to say. Cancel it. Okay.
We knew that going into the grant. All right. So, I I think the shipping to container is probably the way we're going to go. You get a free shed. Yeah. I think that's it because if we're setting up tables and, you know, then you have to have the library. It's it I
I think Peter and I had this discussion just becomes more of a burden than than a help and and it's and on your department and every department that's going to be associated with that with that table. I think if we get it right we have the shed post the rules up you know
all these all these grants is just just a carrot. It's all it is to get to do what they want their way. You don't have to do it. Okay. And they're they're changing they're getting smart. They're starting to change their criteria and they they're starting to become um
um competitors. Yeah. Well, if it works, I think that's great. Yeah. I I just it's on the agenda every time we we meet and we spent 10 minutes on it today, right? And and I I'm just thinking in the end,
you know, when I was with Marriott, we stream streamlined everything and we weren't going to waste our time at a meeting, which exactly far and few between over somewhere like that. I can see it. Yes. So, just those three things posted on the website, Lions Club, Boy Scouts,
because they do yacht sale and buy nothing their Facebook page, right? That should do it. Okay. Because I I think that's going to do it. Sure. If we're gonna spend our time on something, it's getting food waste out of the trash stream. That's 25%,
right? Out of our out of our t out of our tonnage. So I'm I'm saying No, no, no. Go ahead. So if if you had the shipping container there and people brought it there for the Boy Scouts or for the Lions, it's the those
entities responsibility except for I can see his wheels turning over there. who's going to dictate who gets what, right? Well, one of the things that was first mentioned, and I think it was Barbara Catabia when she was on the board of health talked about whatever was on the table that night would get
tossed into the dumpster. Um, and and it just seemed like, yeah, this isn't going to be worth it. So, that's not going to happen. So, this stuff's going to stay in a shipping container overnight until the next time the transfer station is open. I If it actually happened, I foresee it.
goes in the shed. Uh if those ent three entities, right, you do it quarterly, then you call up those bigger corporations that she talked about like St. Vincent, Savers, and what not, they clean it out. They take it regardless whether it's good or not. So, there's a way of always cleaning out
and not going in the dumpster, right? Long as that's there, I'm still okay with moving forward with it. Okay. Long as nothing is going in that I guess I I was just misunderstood then what what what the details will be. It would probably fall on me to manage it, oversee it. Yeah. Yes.
Okay. If you want to do it, you don't have a choice. We get a shipping container out of it. Okay. Do we have to have it? No. We can survive without it. I mean, right now, your surplus stuff needs to go somewhere, right? But even that with with good
leadership, you know, when people get a bunch of printers or whatnot, that doesn't mean they're going to go in storage somewhere. They go printers until we have an auction or they're going to be disposed of as an electronic. They're not going to go in surplus. I don't know why everything automatically has to go in
surplus storage. Yeah. I mean, it's if it's got to end of life, then it's got to end of life or you keep using it. Sure. Um, as excuse me, go ahead. Well, from my own perspective, I I I'm agreeing with everybody here, not to
make everybody happy, but I I agree with your position that how is this going to happen and how is it going to be managed? How is it going to run on continuous basis? I also agree with Tom about um saying, you know, if something sits there for so long, then you call up
these major organizations. I guess my overall feeling about the swap shed is this. If you don't try it, you fail. If you try it, it'll either pass or it'll fail. Okay. So, why not give it a try, right? You know, as I said, if you just don't
take the opportunity, you'll never know. Yeah. Okay. Uh you you keep referring to you have any idea exactly how much we're going to keep up? Has Missy said anything to you about the volume we're going to keep out of the system
from the swaps yet or from Yeah. So if you just use the lines for example that's probably six ton one year just for that event. So with good education and people trying to satisfy the boy
scout needs or to buy nothing it should be more than six ton a year. Most the heaviest stuff is yacht sale stuff like plates, bowls, you know, it's good, useful stuff, but they got new
stuff and they don't want that. So, when are we going to get around to talking about the rules of operation now? Well, Missy's going to give us other towns rules they already have. Okay, that's one of her homeworks. So that's why I tried to say that we have quite a
bit of time, but we're still moving forward. So she's the next meeting she was supposed to have that and we can digest from there. That that should be a help. Um we probably have the the lowest
number of hours open from other towns. That might be one of the dilemmas we're going to have. Okay. You know, two hours on Friday. That's not That's not a whole seven on Saturday. Yeah. Yeah. Could you reconfigure the fence up there
and leave it open all the time? She's mentioned that. Or take it a leave a table. I'd probably not do that. I I don't think that's a good idea. I think you have to have some monical control over this thing. Put the shipping container in the park
here and you kind of oversee that. Sure. I can do that. That's four days a week. Oh, well see away back here beside that shipping container. We'll see. I mean, well, when they take the library away, we'll put it there. Yeah.
I mean, the lion the lion's biggest thing is the the medical equipment. I I don't know how to put a weight on that because it doesn't go to the waist stream and when it's done or dilapidated, it gets recycled because a lot of the stuff is aluminum or steel.
So, it doesn't go into waste. It's that's that's a tough number for me to answer. You know that the tonnage. Do you want me to touch base with CLA and the library to see if they'll even
want to partake in having a table of stuff outside of their brand new library? I I I think I I think we should bring this this the swap shed to ground in terms of where it's going to go, how
often it's going to be open, and more importantly, how it's going to be operated and by who. I I I think before we expand out, I think every other place on the planet, I think branching out is a good idea for
it to grow, not to throw at it. I I think so once when it's in place, we can grow with it. I No, I agree. I I think if if if it in fact is going to succeed, it will succeed by word of mouth. Okay. And people go say, "Hey, look what I found here, found there, and then
perhaps grow it out to well, you have other opportunities if you go here, if you go there." But I I I think success has to be in the basic shed itself. That's where the successes be or the failures, right? either one.
We haven't even talked about things like aging the inventory, which is critical. Well, if if we clean it out quarterly, there's no inventory. If we can clean it out more often, could be
once a month. I don't know. We'll have to study the traffic flow and see who's coming, who isn't coming. You know, my my point is you have somebody that comes up there on a regular basis. If the if he comes up four months after his first visit, his inventory is the same. You think he's
going to come back for a while? Probably not. Have a swap share. That's not Oh, no. No. Either that that kind of inventory. No, because he wouldn't No, because it would be cleaned out. Yeah. So, you're you're talking about leaving
what'sever in the in the swap shed a specific period of time and then getting rid of it. I think that was Yeah. Yeah. We could have with savers and places like that, right? Either quarterly or something like that. They clean it out and then our entities know they have to move what
they want before that time. Whatever's left is going to go. Okay. Memorial Day leading up to Memorial Day is the big time of year. They get some yard sales during the summer, but then when you get closer to Labor Day, that's your next biggest time,
you know, for the larger items. like another question. Suppose something shows up in the swapshed that somebody in town can identify very valuable. How do we handle it? Tom retires with it.
We'd have to figure that out. We I don't know if we're going to get a contact out of Boy Scouts. It might be just Lions. First come, first serve. Oh, what? First come, first serve. No, he brings up a good point because you can't if it's more than one entity, you can't favor one either. You got to keep it fair somehow.
I would probably Well, it's suggest giving it back to the person who dropped it off. Well, I I think Well, that leaves a lot of How do you know it's valuable? You know, they're things that I have no idea they're
valuable, but you see it at antique road show all the time. I bought this for five bucks. It's $100,000. Probably the biggest thing is the antique furniture, the chest of chest of drawers or whatever. It's you never know what comes in the area. There's always somebody out there that knows. Maybe they're into trains or some other
thing specializ in it that they can identify something that has value. Well, if that person goes to the swap they take it out. I mean, that's I I think we'll be getting into more effort than than we want. You know, I think if it's in there, we have to treat
it. I'm like debating with you. No, no, no. I know. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying it's an issue. Yeah. Yeah. Well, how about we look at Missy's um rules rules from other towns before we can just go around the drain here, you know, but
maybe we use that as a starting point for the next discussion. Yeah. The rules are already established someplace else. Just um tap into them. Yeah. Okay. So there's nothing else. You can make a motion to adjurnn.
That'd be helpful. Okay, I'll make a motion to adjourn. Second. All in favor? I oppose. Thank you. Thanks, Tom. I'm late because I had to hire a contractor.
Did you dug everything out right back in there?