WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=Ye6-C3us0bM NOTE MEETING SECTIONS: Part 1 (Video ID: Ye6-C3us0bM): - 00:00:05: Recycling Trade Show and Meeting Packet Discussion - 00:03:16: Transfer Station Report: Mattresses and Brush Volume - 00:04:28: Swap Shed Discussion: Wooden Shed vs. Metal Container - 00:07:18: Aesthetics of a Metal Container at Landfill - 00:09:12: Discussion: Moving Forward With Metal Container Swap - 00:11:24: Metal Container Swap Motion Passed - 00:13:12: New Business: Discussion on Trash Bag Price Increase - 00:15:42: Price Increase Considerations and October Bid Adjustments - 00:18:08: Discussion: Taxing Dumpsters and Regulation Review - 00:20:14: Recommendation on Price Increase, Vote to Start in October - 00:21:37: Member Introduction, Attendance and Communications - 00:23:03: Mass Recycling Conference and RDP Grant Information - 00:25:08: Money for the Shed, Auction and Procurement - 00:27:04: Public Input, Next Meeting Schedule, Karen's Attendance - 00:29:16: Approve February 3rd Minutes, Motion to Adjourn Part: 1 1 00:00:05.520 --> 00:00:57.239 Tomorrow, Mr. 11:30. >> 11:30. >> 7:30. >> Okay. >> I see you. >> Yeah. >> On purpose. What is it over here? recycle trade show. 2 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:14.560 >> It's a good place to be. I think you're going to the >> Yeah. >> Yeah. The alliance pay for it. >> Yeah. We're going to send her, too. There's going to be some good stuff there. You'll love be overwhelmed. >> Yeah. >> Are these packets? That's mine. >> Yeah. All of that is yours. 3 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:38.079 >> It's 45 page packet. >> Talk to lady. >> You want me to go print you one? >> No. I think you answered all my question. Anyways, you get those two emails in there from Missy. >> Yeah. >> Well, yeah. One Well, one's not from Missy. The other one's from D. 4 00:01:38.079 --> 00:02:09.840 >> Yeah. >> This computer's not turning on. Go. Can you get emails on that, Tom? So, I sent it an email. Can you see your emails? >> Yes. The meeting packet and minutes. Is that 5 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:43.360 what you want? The meeting packet is what you want. Yep. Hey, call me Na right and early 3:37 present myself Mr. PCO Mr. Nearly Aaron is Mr. Karen's still on the committee, right? He just 6 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:59.280 >> Yes. >> Is busy and Mr. Perry absent. >> I thought there was another man on the committee. I haven't seen him yet. >> I think Ralph or something. 7 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:16.640 >> That's That's your Ralph guy. There was uh Barbara, but she Nope. No, but we haven't filled her position yet. >> Haven't seen her in a while. >> She's not on it anymore. >> No, I think this is it. I'm going with that assumption. This is it. So, on the agenda, we got reports. I usually give a 8 00:03:16.640 --> 00:03:33.200 report in the transfer station. Uh mattresses haven't slowed down. Uh brush has been zero because of the snow pack. So, I expect to get inundated with brush this weekend. >> What What is What is zero? brush branches. 9 00:03:33.200 --> 00:03:50.640 >> Oh, >> because nobody can go pick up the yards, but we know there's a ton of them out there from the storms. >> We mulch them. >> What's that? >> We mulch them. >> Yes. That's why I'm articulating that. Yes, we'll be mulching that very soon. 10 00:03:50.640 --> 00:04:05.120 Yes. The board of health requires us to do it within 72 hours. We do our best and then uh and then the board of health has to report on that once a year on the cubic yardage on that. >> Correct. >> Yes. 11 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:28.639 >> Yes. >> Okay. All discuss all business swaps. So speaker and Mr. Harry briefly and uh we got to read the the new policy one more meeting in process of reading the policy what 12 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:44.000 not we're hearing some feedback on the swap shed and Bob thinks it's a good idea to instead of trying to get it open for April 1st let's shoot for May 1 at this time because one of the newer one of the newer things we need to work 13 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:59.280 on it was recommended that we look into an actual wooden shed versus a shipping container. We have enough funds to go towards a shipping container, but an actual shed, we're going to require more funds. So, we got to see if more funds are 14 00:04:59.280 --> 00:05:15.039 available. >> How much does a wood shed cost? >> If if you settle on the square footage, that'll dictate that. So, if you can envision a 40 foot container, >> Yeah. which is roughly around 6,000. We get a 15 00:05:15.039 --> 00:05:30.560 little bit we get a little bit more in the RDP funds that go towards that and >> so those like a 400 square ft right shipping container >> no it's 8540 16 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:50.880 >> is multiply for 8 besides this particular individual that's pushing for a different type of shed >> well he wants the committee to have a discussion a good discussion Oh, I thought we talked about that before. 17 00:05:50.880 --> 00:06:08.479 >> 320. I'm sorry. >> No, >> I'm doing something wrong. >> 8 by4. That's 320. >> Give me more than that. We can get a metal ship. The ship that state pays for. We can get a wood pay 18 00:06:08.479 --> 00:06:26.400 for. >> Metal's going to be hard to if you don't have climate control in there. It's going to get pretty stingy in the summer. >> No, you ventilate either. >> Shed would shed wood would asphalt shingles get pretty hot. 19 00:06:26.400 --> 00:06:42.560 >> It's hot, too. I fig can get really hot. >> Yeah, but you have to door open, right? That's the plan. >> Yeah, the door would be open for the human aspect, but also be ventilated. When >> that suggestion was made, what was the reaction of the other two select? They 20 00:06:42.560 --> 00:07:02.240 just listened. >> Was Steve there? >> Yes. >> His reaction was >> he didn't say anything. >> He did not >> and Nicole was not there. So it was only the two slept. >> So what's the consensus in the committee? 21 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:18.160 >> I have no opposition to metals yet. >> I mean it's in the transfer station. I mean >> we've been talking about metal from the get go. >> Yeah. right with the side doors, >> right? >> That's going to be using up all the funds out of the grant, but there's a 22 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:32.240 little bit more left that we have in the bank, the RDPs that we haven't used that can go towards a project like the sign. Do we have any structures that we can attach the structure to to 23 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:48.319 make the appearance >> or >> I think the argument is was that a metal container is ugly >> and it is >> it is what it is. I mean 24 00:07:48.319 --> 00:08:04.240 >> so metal containers in the land now that are ugly. Putting another ugly piece in there what's the big deal? I I I agree with you. So you're not gonna get an argument with me. I think it I think it's the it's 25 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:23.599 just the most practical thing. It's a transfer station. >> I mean there's a metal container, right? There's metal container. There's a there's a there's a whatever like um what's the animal thing? It's not a metal container, but it's a what is 26 00:08:23.599 --> 00:08:38.000 that? >> The animal control building. It's the old office buildings from the bridge bridge, >> which is one step above a milk container. >> To your point, >> you know, >> I think we should go and see how it works out. I mean, we can always make it 27 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:53.120 fancy later. >> Yeah, we put a facade on it if we want. Uh, to answer your question, not really. There is a dozer building there. Um, it used to have a link to off the west side, but that wouldn't work mechanically. 28 00:08:53.120 --> 00:09:12.720 >> So, the east side is where you have the book drop off and the where the clothes go. And we have a short roof there now with some supplies that's over those containers now. >> Gotcha. >> So, we can bring in the minutes. We had 29 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:29.200 discussion. We want to move forward with the metal container >> here. Why are we still having a discussion on I thought we talked about that a long time ago? >> Because one of the sleeppked us discuss it 30 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:45.519 >> so we can report that we did if we >> but he didn't want a metal container. Right. >> Correct. He want No, he wanted the committee to cons have a conversation. >> Yeah. to consider and do we know to consider and the practicality of it is 31 00:09:45.519 --> 00:10:02.040 we're moving forward with the metal container. >> Well, if there's a metal container we got some money from the state for it. If it's a wood table, we're spending is that coming on my taxes? >> No, the the state is giving us six grand regardless what we buyed, 32 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:16.560 >> right? the shed is >> I didn't hear her talking about what I heard talking >> and then and then both are going to need to be ADA compliant. But that's that just tells me how to do it. Like the metal one I can do that 33 00:10:16.560 --> 00:10:32.640 pretty easily. The wood one is going to be more higher. You'll have a higher uh challenge or a longer ramp to >> That's the theory. You know, if we put a wood one, it's more it's more beautiful. More people will come with stuff. Is that what it is? 34 00:10:32.640 --> 00:10:49.040 That sounds kind of stupid, isn't it? Huh? You know, you can't say anything. >> Thank you. >> He can. >> No, I wouldn't want to put it in. >> No, I think it I just think a medical 35 00:10:49.040 --> 00:11:05.839 thing is more practical at this at this stage. >> You can actually the one we're thinking of. You can actually position it to help screen the other ugly ones that are there. In other words, what you're saying is that if it's successful enough, we could add on to it. 36 00:11:05.839 --> 00:11:24.079 >> You could also, yes, it needs to go just past the shed straight forward. So, basically anything over there doesn't cost the town to get rid of. If anything, any vehicles or people are wandering from his per peripheral view 37 00:11:24.079 --> 00:11:44.240 towards the other containers, something's up. So, so if we don't have a volunteer helping him, he already knows something's up. So, he has good control that way. You made a motion. >> I move that we have a metal container. 38 00:11:44.240 --> 00:12:00.079 >> Continue moving forward with the metal container. >> I'll second favor. >> I oppose. Very good. If your question why we voted this way, what's your answer going to be? 39 00:12:00.079 --> 00:12:19.519 >> After a lengthy discussion, we decided the metal container is more copetic for the situation. Something like that. I can't use too big of a words. If I can't spell them, I shouldn't use those words. >> The metal container would be cheaper 40 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:38.480 than the wood. >> Yes, >> cheaper. proper easier to >> maintain and move >> maintain move and and comp >> cuz where it's going too I don't know if all of you know it's actually on there's 41 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:56.880 two landfills there underneath that asphalt is a burnt landfill so you can't dig for foundation either so the shipping contain makes more sense for that area. I shouldn't say you can't dig it. It's problematic to dig 42 00:12:56.880 --> 00:13:12.480 >> because over a certain size you need a foundation. >> Yes. >> Right. Over 200 square ft you need a foundation. I think >> that's a good point. >> Yeah. >> All right. Uh also in new business uh there's no other old business, correct? 43 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:29.040 New business I believe it was Bob brought up the price tag. I did. >> You did? >> I brought up the price bands. Um, and I guess well, let me discuss why. So, 44 00:13:29.040 --> 00:13:45.920 right now, uh, the bags are are $2.80 and $1.40 each bag. I'm proposing for the larger bags $3 and the small bag $150. A small a small a small increase. 45 00:13:45.920 --> 00:14:02.399 Um, as it stands now, what we're charging for the bags, we have a deficit of almost $68,000. Uh, you know, the the you pay as you go. The idea is the bags should at least come close to the covering the cost of 46 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:17.279 the curbside pickup and and the disposal cost with Cass. with the modest increase of 20 cents large pay, 10 cents small pay. Um we still have a deficit but uh 47 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:36.800 less uh uh 39,028. So I'm open for discussion. Again, the purpose of the bags pay as you grow is to is to do our best to cover disposal costs. um as it stands now we we are not 48 00:14:36.800 --> 00:14:53.680 so I don't want to see a big price hike just something again something modest then we should review this every year or every other year I guess the procedure is we vote on it then put it to the what are the small bags 49 00:14:53.680 --> 00:15:11.360 >> the small bank now are $140 a day and the large >> 280 and your proposal is >> $3 for the large and And I have it. And I have the stretchy gym. Um, and $1.50 for those. >> I think it's in your packet, right? 50 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:42.800 >> Looks like Looks like this. >> That's a spreadsheet right here. So that's how much we're short even going up to the 30 and 15. >> So a dumb easy question while he's trying to digest the draft there. >> Um 51 00:15:42.800 --> 00:15:59.279 I know we can adjust prices any time of year, but why wouldn't why would we not want to entertain this in your October bid adjustments? We could we could >> there's work to do before it happens anyway. So this would be the getting the ball rolling. 52 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:14.720 >> We could I mean it's it's like wasn't taken up part of you know we're going into the budget season. So, um I mean I would I would think we could take it up now or 53 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:31.279 at least we could have it for the uh you know it's the inclination of this board to to put this forward. We could bring it to the board of health and for so everything's all lined up we want to do in October or they want to do it soon. So 54 00:16:31.279 --> 00:16:46.720 >> right >> we actually kind of need to get things motioned now for October. Well, we're a little early. Little early. I mean, it'd be nice to Yeah. July, August for for October, you know. So, we're a little real early. 55 00:16:46.720 --> 00:17:02.480 >> So, >> and my other >> aspect I just I it just has a bad taste, >> but you don't with the debt to exclusion discussions that are out there. >> Usually, this is my thought. we have um 56 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:19.520 having the price uh the price discussion in October. So everything starts January 1. So So that's the idea of of having that review occur in October. So everybody 57 00:17:19.520 --> 00:17:35.200 makes their decision and and the start date is Janu January 1st. This is the new pricing. This needs our recommendation. Go to board of health then to the suckman. >> So that's already three or four months right there. 58 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:50.960 >> Well, yeah. I mean Yeah. >> So I I don't think it's too early. It's a little early. Not too early. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Well, we could I mean if if we do move forward with our recommendation to be brought up at the actual price there so everybody knows it's happening. 59 00:17:50.960 --> 00:18:08.720 The bags never covered the full price and the bags were supposed to cover the contract price of the hauling. >> Yeah. >> And then the difference in a tonnage the town would take up. >> Yeah. >> But there was too many years that people did not touch the trash bags and that's why it stayed a little too low. 60 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:25.440 You're playing the bit there. You wanted to say something. >> No, it had nothing to do with that. I was just thinking, um, do we tax people who have, um, dumpers? >> Dumpsters. >> Yeah. 61 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:42.160 >> No, >> you we don't we don't deduct their taxes, so they get taxed accordingly. >> So, yeah, they just don't pay the bags. They still get paid. Part of their tax is paid for the trash now. Yes. >> But they don't get a separate charge for 62 00:18:42.160 --> 00:19:03.200 the dumpster. Well, the dump dumpster's private, so they get they don't get anything from us as a >> credit of some sort. >> Either a credit or a bill because of the dumpster. >> We should be avoiding drug too. 63 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:18.400 That's I think the board of health process. >> Yeah, it was mentioned. We have a regulation this month, uh, February, that they read it the third time. So, I got to send it to the select to them to review it 64 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:34.320 >> to have a dumpster feed, but it won't be to the resident. It's going to be to the dumpster companies. >> What's on? >> Yes. >> Well, she needs the tonnage of our recordings. Technically, she needs the tonnage. What's going on 65 00:19:34.320 --> 00:19:55.679 downstairs? I'm probably that number that the trucks that come record >> exactly the company knows >> the weight they're picking up. >> Yes. >> They they either get it by cubic yard or by the weight. 66 00:19:55.679 --> 00:20:14.320 >> That's how they charge. >> Yep. There's a conversion for cubic yards. >> So you don't get a dumpster for a month or something like that. You pay by the weight. you pay by way or it could be of that dumpster. Okay, >> I would be happy to bring this up again 67 00:20:14.320 --> 00:20:29.600 when we have the full full board since we have some time. So, October. So, >> sorry, we can't vote on it now. >> We could we could vote because it's just a recommendation. It's got to go through water health. It's got to go through 68 00:20:29.600 --> 00:20:46.159 Sluckman >> and the Sluckman have to finally say, right? Mhm. >> Yeah. >> Washington effective in October small go from 140 to 150 and the large scope 69 00:20:46.159 --> 00:21:04.640 from 280 to $3 effective in October. >> Second. >> Motion made and second. Any discussion? So the only thing is he made to start in October October. So we could present 70 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:22.320 >> that's what I that's when we started a new >> policy I guess you call it to review all fees >> in October and then it takes effect January 1st. >> So what so if we vote on it today what's going >> Nothing really would change >> no 71 00:21:22.320 --> 00:21:37.520 >> it still would take it really would take effect till January 1. >> It would take effect the slight take effect. >> There you go. >> Yeah. >> So you're good. Good. Good motion. All in favor? >> I. >> Any oppose? 72 00:21:37.520 --> 00:21:53.679 Moving right along. >> Can I just ask this this number three on the member introduction? Is that something new? I don't remember. >> No, I did it. It's kind of like attendance. >> Yeah. >> Who's here? Who's not? 73 00:21:53.679 --> 00:22:10.960 >> Member introduction. Attendance. >> I said Mr. Ney. >> Mr. Baco. Mr. Neely present. Mr. Mr. Karen, Mr. Perry absent. You can take a note of that. You going to put something else? Attendance next time? Do 74 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:27.919 >> you want me to take it out? >> Did you do before? >> Yes. I talked about the brush and the mattresses. Okay. And we're done with old business. We're done with new business. Unless something 75 00:22:27.919 --> 00:22:44.400 else. Actually, there is. Um, well, that's part those other two things are the communications, right? >> Yes. >> All right. So, we're done with new business. >> Uh, we don't have to act on one of them, right? 76 00:22:44.400 --> 00:23:03.679 >> No. >> Who dreamed up number seven? >> Other items not reasonably anticipated. >> That's an open meeting law. Yeah, we have to have that in there. >> Just in case something pops up. Okay. Communications. Liz, you want to 77 00:23:03.679 --> 00:23:19.440 do that one? >> Uh, Heather and I will be attending the mass recycling conference and trade show. So, hopefully I >> Where is that? >> Uh, it's far. Is it Holy Oak? Where is it? Is it here? 78 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:40.320 >> Yeah, it's kind of >> Yeah, it's like out west. I don't know if it's Worester or >> It might be Worister. >> Yeah, it's out there. >> They're They're going to grab swag. >> So, hopefully we get some good swag, some good ideas, maybe some options for 79 00:23:40.320 --> 00:23:59.039 us to bring back to the committee, the board of health. >> Okay, chill. They'll have swap sheds you can look at, >> right? >> What? You will. >> There'll be some good ideas. Yes, I think that will be. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's okay. 80 00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:16.799 >> Um, and the RDP grant information, that's what Missy Holland sent. I believe I printed that out and put it in the packet as well. >> Um, so that's what we can spend the money on. >> Yeah, that's >> that's way 81 00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:36.080 more >> I'm going to be left in the office all by myself. >> Mhm. I know. So, this is the grant stuff. This is what we can spend our money on. How we can earn more points. 82 00:24:36.080 --> 00:24:52.799 Um, that's good. Actually, good reading material. We don't have to do it now. Uh, there's nothing on now. There's the only thing that was time pending was the scope of work. And I'm pretty certain I hadn't signed that. >> I signed Yeah, 83 00:24:52.799 --> 00:25:08.240 >> I signed it earlier. I believe. And then I I don't >> Yes. >> I thought we sent it already. >> Yes. I got three of us. I thought so. >> Yeah. So they they missed it somewhere. >> Y >> Well, as long as they didn't kick us out. >> No. >> You know, 84 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:26.640 >> and that might have been a sign from above if we lost the shed. >> Now, we have money in there from last year, so we could use that towards the shed as well. >> You to help subsidize it. Yes. they'll be paying for that sign and cuz uh depending 85 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:41.679 well I don't know how Mr. feels about this auction down here. Those same containers are down here. You just got to hire someone to move it and we don't know what that price is going to be. So, the procurement part plays a role. Can we buy it in an auction or we going to buy it outright? 86 00:25:41.679 --> 00:25:57.919 >> Um because over there we can buy before the auction. He he told me before there's anything there we want as a town, he can do a deal before the actual auction. >> Well, if it's under $10,000, you could do it. still not you know 87 00:25:57.919 --> 00:26:16.320 >> no but I mean I mean it's just um it's sort of general business practice when you just write a memo >> so under 10,000 we don't need examples I've done it before with the account we 88 00:26:16.320 --> 00:26:31.840 had the previous account wanted several auctions with similar items they got a little kind of fluent because auction how do you know way something's going to end in an auction, >> you know, >> right? >> So, so they they give me like a pre 89 00:26:31.840 --> 00:26:47.760 almost like the um the pre-auction price or the or the um or the strike price. This is what >> the market value what it's being for sale. >> If it's under 10, you don't need to do the three bids. >> No. 90 00:26:47.760 --> 00:27:04.240 >> No. But we he's a procurement officer. Even though we say no, we want to make sure he's >> Yeah, I'll double check before we do it. >> Yes. But I'm Yeah. >> And there's another layer to the onion. He's going to make sure things are in order before it goes out of his office. 91 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:29.760 >> And and then ease in that we bend in the containers. I'm sure he has access to them, too. >> All right. Um yeah and public input schedule next meeting >> that would be >> we need to vote on propos post 92 00:27:29.760 --> 00:27:46.640 postponing the swap shed from April 1st May 1st. We when we're ready we'll open it. We don't have to vote on that right. Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, the next meeting would be April 6. 93 00:27:46.640 --> 00:28:08.640 >> 3:00 working. Okay. >> I know. April 6. He still runs. >> Should we see what time is better for Mr. Karen so he can attend? Usually Peter's been saying after three o'clock 94 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:25.360 works. So just >> depends how his days go. He probably was planning a meeting. >> Yeah, >> it's just the last three or three meetings now. A little track record here. He was that excited about the idea. 95 00:28:25.360 --> 00:28:40.720 >> He was not. >> Well, he never said much. >> He seemed to be in tune with the committee when he started. I agree with >> Yeah. >> But I you know that I was here when he was here I 96 00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:56.720 >> I I like Peter but I didn't put much. >> And when he's not here without signing in or giving him a message and not saying anything that means he's very happy with what's going on. >> Okay. >> If he had something to say he would make sure a message got to us. 97 00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:16.399 >> So he's got a lot of confidence in you. >> Yeah. >> And we have a Zoom. So we just I mean >> April 6 it is 3:00 unless you hear otherwise >> you want to postpone proving a minute or you want to take a stab at it 98 00:29:16.399 --> 00:29:33.039 >> February 3rd >> do we have a >> Yep. >> Yes. >> What are we waiting for? >> A motion made to approve the minutes of February 3rd. That's what we're waiting for. >> I'll make that motion. Second was 99 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:53.760 >> made in second. Any further discussion? All in favor? >> I. >> Any oppose. >> Need another motion to adjourn. >> I'll make a motion to adjourn. Second. >> All in favor. >> More time. >> 404. 100 00:29:53.760 --> 00:30:16.679 >> 404. >> Where else did we get that problem? Uh, >> do that this week, huh? That's going to mess you guys up. >> It's funny. I I have to change the battery in the office because 101 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:31.919 one school they can spend money on. >> So, I changed the one in my office. >> There's one lower town. >> Did we get a second for a journ? Yes, I vote too.