board of stuckman have that authority. >> Yeah, there were two questions there. This board or myself can make a recommendation. Uh Ralph is or the town administrator starting something new at fees every year assessment either keep them the same or adjust them. We're going to do that every October
>> for the landfill >> for everything. >> What's that? >> Everything in town fees. Anything to do with >> all the associated fees in town. We ask everybody to review and review it on an annual basis and if they're good we stay if we have to change it just so we don't
look at them every 5 years and if we have to change them they go up super high you know so >> sounds like the prices at the grocery store >> uh are we going to discuss this today this uh current >> uh no I'm just going to use it as a report because I'm going to have to let
them consider that this Wednesday >> could I make a recommendation on this. >> Out of order. >> Okay. All right. >> I didn't even know what it mean yet. You want to make a recommendation? >> No. No. Where you've got it down here. It says prices are subject to change
without notice. I'd suggest you add in there price increases reflect something like price increases reflect an increase in uh disposal cost to the town. Okay? That way people say it's subject to change
and essentially let them know that we as a town have to pay more. Therefore >> that's exactly what that's there for. So the the language that you just said can be that that we can change language without slement any time. >> Yeah.
>> Because it's not a there's no dollar value to it. >> Yeah. No, I understand that. But I mean it just it tells people look we didn't arbitrarily say you know you know let's throw because it reflects what the cost whoever the disposal person is or agency
is this price increase to you the client is a function of our disposal agency. >> Try to keep it as short as possible. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> What do you say prices are subject to change without notice? Because uh >> no >> well the I think the only message you
have I'm sorry not the go the only message you have to put out is is to protect yourself so if the prices change is notice posted that's all you have to do >> I don't even know why you have that line in it to be quite honest
>> because that's a good question we don't have control of the market if it did change like pre-on disposal or where the I know you did a contract back by the time if they did >> if all of a sudden everything had to go to Ohio that the price for disposal is
going to jump in the middle of the fiscal. >> So we may have to adjust the fee accordingly. >> How about prices uh reflect uh disposal cost? I just so people don't >> you know if you tell them oh this price
went up three bucks ah that you know they're doing this they're trying to make money. I guess I guess my question has that statement always been on this? >> No, >> I put that there >> months ago. >> Oh, 18 months ago. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> I'm not I I I think it's a good um it's
a good statement and you know just people okay they can change but just you know why is it going to change? But you know >> Yeah. But it kind of makes it sound like Tom can change at any time on his own you know. >> Yeah. That's why if you put prices subject to change without notice due to
you know >> market it's market value but it still has to go through a selectman. >> Oh wait I understand. >> So there is a notice the selectman at the selectman meeting is the notice. >> Yeah that's technically yes but that's
>> I know I'm not getting into the weeds. I'm sorry. Yeah. >> But anyway, just for your for your start, please. >> Meet the order. >> Pledge the flag. [Music]
Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Uh members present. We all know who's
here. Um I'm not sure about Mr. Karen and Missy. I don't I don't know. >> Didn't I see a notice somewhere? He was traveling ahead of me. >> That was a previous meeting. That was an older email. >> Oh, okay. >> I just double checked that because I was a little nervous about the time of that email because it referred to 4:30, but
that was the previous meeting. So, everyone knows who everyone is. Uh Going down to reports. I have nothing new on transfer station reports. Things are going okay. New guys working out. Good. If there's no other reports from anyone,
we'll jump right to old business. Swap shed. Someone have something to say about a swap shed. >> No, nothing new. >> I brought those my issues up. Uh >> did you talk about the meeting we had? Is that
>> Yes. Yeah. And I mentioned the point and I said I wasn't um going to you know speak for you because you I knew nothing about inventory management etc. So I wasn't about to touch that. >> Still nothing to say. Did you have something? >> Well I don't know you know what issues
you want to put the there's a whole wide thing of issues you're going to have up there with you want to start. So, we don't know if we have the grant until maybe December. So, we got a little bit of time. So, this is the time that we want to put things into place so it's somewhat
shovel more shovel ready. So, even when the grant comes in December, if we get it, we still got to order the shed. So, you're looking at January, February to get it. >> Well, somewhere that's right in the heart of the winter. I don't see us opening the doors to it until uh the
flowers come out. There's this bullet in here. A lot of them that came out. Um, you're going to have problems because you're dealing with the public. I don't know how extensive you want to get into planning for that. You know, we
talked Rob and I talked about inventory management is not an issue and stuff like that, but there when you deal with the public today, as you well know, >> uh, it's a whole different ballgame. when I was out there. I don't know whether you want to get in involved in
planning for stuff like that or wing it. When when it happens, you deal with it. That'll be up to you and your secretary. >> Probably I would say probably a little of both. The loc has a location possibly changed or we're staying at the transfer station.
>> We had talked about it makes sense to leave it right at the transfer station. And at the end of the day, no matter how many months are in it, nothing's going in our rolloffs, right? If it doesn't move in a swap shed, we'll find someone else to take it, right?
After so much time. >> We didn't talk about that. We didn't talk about that. We just >> I think we talked about that at meeting here at the table. >> That That's important to me >> because if we're taking something for nothing, it can't go in a dumpster for
nothing. What are you talking about? >> If it doesn't move something in and it doesn't move, I'm going to put it in a dumpster. I'm going to pay for it. >> No, it doesn't go in a dumpster. It's just got to have another end life. So they there are other entities out there
as you know the Lions or the Boy Scouts or Savers or the bigger umbrella supposedly will take anything off our hands. But that should be part of the mission or goal of setting this up is nothing goes in our rolloffs from that shed.
I mean, if you drop a vase or something, that's a little different. You know, you break it there. That's I would think that doesn't really count. >> Well, I don't know how far out you want to go with this. I was, you know, I went way out with this to the extent like suppose
I bring something in to the shed, it sits there and I don't realize it's expensive. So then I go back, I want it because somebody told me it was expensive, but it's gone. What then? >> That's fine. It didn't go in a dumpster.
That's the goal. >> That's all. >> Do not go in a dumpster. >> Well, but here's my point when I when I started talking about this. You're dealing with the public today. It's totally different than what I was. >> It could be a $50,000 item. I get it. But that's not our problem. So if I
bring something to the landfill, then somebody tells me you shouldn't have done that. I should So I go back and it's gone. No, I'm going to be mad as hell and you're going to hear about it. How you going to deal with it? >> I I don't know why you're going to be mad because you you already met your obligation not to get it in the dump.
>> You're missing the point. It's a very valid point. But that person out there isn't going to feel that way. >> Well, you mean they want it back? >> You're going to have to deal with that. >> Well, I mean, I think when you bring it in, if I bring in that $50,000 item, >> you surrender your rights to it. >> Exactly. I've just transferred
ownership. >> But I get I get your point. Are you sure? What? Are you sure? >> I would I wouldn't be so sure about that in today's economy. >> Yeah. >> Things you see on television, stuff like the wall.
>> When do we own it? soon as >> I'm not sure you ever do own it. That's one that's that's what has to be decided here. >> When do they when do they not own it? >> Who's they >> whoever dropped it off? >> Well, that's the same that's the same
things you just said. We're talking it's it's still the same issue no matter how you word it. >> I think that scenario is very you know the the scenario that's going to happen a lot is people dump stuff off and we have nowhere to put it. >> Yeah, >> that's going to be our problem. That's gonna be one of them happen once in a
lifetime. >> That's gonna be one of them. That's for sure. >> I think I Let me ask you this. On Friday afternoon or Friday morning or or Saturday, I drive in with a load. The load gets
checked. The attendant says, "Put it in. Put the metal over here and put it in dumpster number two." When I offload my truck, from my perspective, I've just surrendered my ownership of that and I've given it to
the town to do something with. To me, I think once you offload your vehicle and and you put it in the metal pile or you put it in the pile of branches or you put it in the dumpster or you put it in the shed, the game's over for you. >> Well, you you gave up ownership of it.
See, that's the point of contention that that I'm trying to put on the table here. It's easy to say what you just said. It's a whole different ballgame if a lawyer calls you and and and and challenges that thought process. So, that's why we're having this discuss as
far as I'm concerned why we're having this discussion now because those things are going to happen. >> Yeah. >> You're going to have to deal with them. Be and my feeling is be prepared for something like that rather than let it hit you between the eyes. So good, good, clear, short policies would help.
>> That's what I'm saying. If if if we have a notice up there and it posted says once you leave it, it becomes a property of the town or something like that. >> Well, could you let me ask you I agree. It has to be a policy statement. >> Sure. >> Short and sweet. But what about in
addition to that, what about a sign right on the side of the facility that says uh something like uh material in here is owned by the town or is the pro now the property of town of Dayton or uh ownership of certain part something that
just >> I'm going to say >> no and I don't because I think you surrender your rights when you put it in but it's a swap shed so you I could go and you know put my unbeknownst to me my
grandfather's Rolex there walk out didn't really care about it the town doesn't know that because you could walk in and then you oo this is a Rolex I'm walking out with it >> so the sign should say anything in here is free for all
>> it's you can't say that you can't you can't deny somebody there has to be ownership there somebody has to own that either the town or the person or something like that. That's the point I'm trying to make. That has to be clear. >> You're saying the town is not responsible for any items that were
>> unintentionally or did >> Well, I can tell you >> um Well, obviously I I need to lean on you guys a little bit for a policy, but did you guys discuss how do you have access to this stuff? Do you have to have a transportation sticker or is
everyone going to have access? No, I mean that one we didn't touch. >> I don't recall touching that one. >> I think >> I would think anyone should be >> Missy's going to want everyone. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, it depend that depends on where we located. If it's right inside
the gate there, then that's you from me. I think the obvious the answer is obvious. You shouldn't have to have a a landfill sticker to to jump some jump something off in a in a swap shed. I mean, if I can go back to when we
started all this thing, the famous statement you made about trying to keep that little item out of the the refuge chain. Um, I rest my case on that. If you start throwing conditions and stuff like that, people are not going to
come. M >> well let me ask what happens when um and it's just sort of a generic scenario. What happens if I put that same Rolex watch,
>> okay, that I don't know what value is, uh, out in my uh on the street front of my house along with a couple of chairs and a table and the science is free and somebody drives by Rolex, you know, and takes it.
They own it. I don't anymore because I gave it away. The only thing we're acting as an agent to drop things off and for other people to come and pick it up. But I I think at some point in time I I I think if you this is almost like
me giving the rolex to I just gave up my own. You're welcome. But I I give up at at some point in time you you give up ownership of the item. >> So um I just want to I just want to touch on how you get in the gate a little bit.
>> Okay. I'm not always right. >> How you getting what? >> How to get in the gate to get stuff. >> So, I'm not always right and we don't have this all figured out and we might have to change stuff as it gets started. Right now, my thinking on running the transfer station when you buy that
sticker, that money is funding the person's salary to run the place, >> right? In theory, it's not an enterprise fund. So, it technically doesn't, but I I want the revenues to come in for the sticker to cover that, >> right?
>> Um, are we going to have an influx of people coming through the gate to utilize the shed? Probably. It's just part of his job description if he's going to kind of oversee, even if it's with volunteers. I I don't foresee a huge issue, but
that's that's for you guys to kind of struggle with a little bit to see if that's going to work before it happens. What are you talking about? >> Placement of where the shed is running it. Um, owning it. Yeah. >> I thought we talked about inside the inside the gate.
>> Yep. >> So, the question is, do you need a sticker? >> Do Do you need a sticker? I need you guys to kind of look at that again. I know want no sticker because she wants everyone to have access to get stuff out of the refuge. >> You can't do go with it. You get a How much is a sticker going to cost you?
>> 30 bucks. Why am I Why am I going to pay $30 to the town to drop something off? I'll throw it in the trash >> or to go pick up something that someone doesn't want. I >> I'll throw it in the trash. >> Would it cause any confusion with your guy if people were driving in there without stickers?
>> It if they go to use the transfer station. Yes. It's got to be We got to figure a way to delineiate it so they're not going past a certain point. >> People sneak and stuff, >> but yet they got to go to the shed. They like to Oh, I'm just going to the swap shed. And >> they have to go to the shed, though,
because he needs to be at the shed. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Can the swap shed be outside the fence? >> Oh, Missy would love that. >> Oh, well, if we did that, it would have to be someplace else and it would have to be manned. >> It would. Yeah.
>> Oh, yeah. 100%. >> It' be a big dumping ground. Just drop stuff there all night long. Not if we close the shed. >> How about if we put another gate in that fence >> like where the cars are parked and and
locate the thing right behind that and fence it in. >> Can we do that? >> You could, but what's that going to do? >> Deal with the issue you're talking about. >> No, cuz the person wouldn't make it to the attendant. You still need the person go to the
attendant, right? >> Why? to determine where the items are going to go. Is that person at disposal or is that person just dropping off? >> Well, I I I see it. I see his point. If you >> There's a value to it, but >> yeah,
>> our attendant can't monitor that. >> Okay. But Oh, yeah. I Yeah, I get that, too. I mean, you could drop off. John, I can see what you're saying. you're going to have to go to instead of to try to avoid adding some someone to the payroll, you have to have everyone go to
the attendant whether they're dropping off or use using the transfer station. >> Well, they maybe don't Yeah, you might have a mixed load. And by the way, this is for swappers. >> Yeah, that's tricky. Well, we had that meeting last week with Missy Hollingback and a lot of some of the towns are saying they're seeing a lot of their
residents trying to sneak stuff in and hide in bins and putting stuff where they shouldn't be. >> Oh my goodness. >> So, here we are, November. We'll have another meeting before we
hear the grant the grant results. you have um two um large containers that that sort of direct everybody in. Um, is there something you can do with with
traffic flow like once they um with with some sort of significant barricade, not a rope and saw horses, but significant barricade where people would roll up to the attendant regardless of what they've got in their
vehicle. They roll up to the attendant and the attendant, okay, what are you here for? I want to throw all this stuff. All right, metal over there. or this is for the swap shed. Okay. And what else? This is for to be thrown away. They do the paperwork. >> Mhm.
>> The attendant can watch that individual drive up a little bit and put it in the swap shed past his shack or if it's all going in and then drive around to the dumpsters or Yeah, this is all going into the dumpsters. A
break where let's say it's right across from the door of the the attendant shed. Okay. Yeah. Take a left and go to number two, then go that way, you know. Is that possible? >> Yes. Most likely it's going to be right alongside the mattress container
because he can clearly see who's supposed to be going to our rolloff and then who's going to the swap. >> Mattress container is on the side where the shed is. I thought we were going to put it. >> No, it's >> No, you drive by on the way in though. >> Yeah. >> We We use it, like you said, we use it
for a barricade to funnel them in. Oh, okay. >> And we have an end there because that's where the truck would have to take a high left to back up to get the metal. >> The shed right there at the gate. >> Yes, it would. It would be near the gate, but you would have to go to the
tenant press and then he could draft them and monitor it. >> I know. On a busy Saturday, you think he's going to have time to watch somebody driving off with the next car rolling up and they'll load and >> not only that, but traffic congestion, too. >> Line out their gate waiting. Yes.
>> Yeah. I think >> Yes. >> I think about I mean if you've got a if I'm the attendant, this is my shed behind me. Somebody rolls in says, "Okay, what have you got?" "Well, I've got everything for the swap shed." "Okay, drive over there or or drive
around to here and whatever. Show me what you've got." And then you drive out. I've got a load for nothing for the swap shed, just a load for whatever. Drive over to number two and drive over that way. I've got a mix load. Boom. Boom. Boom.
>> Can I just roll it back a second? >> I think we never answered the question or I may have missed it. >> Do they need a a sticker to get in? So, that's number one. >> Yeah. Okay. So, so I and I think once
once we answer that, then >> no, they don't need a sticker. You get somebody my age that has something they want to put in a swap shed and they're going to buy a sticker. >> They're not >> and then get an illegal charge charge their plate afterwards.
>> I could see you going postal. Yeah. >> Anybody my age would do it. >> Yep. >> But then what happens when you get somebody I'm just using a swap shed, but they have junk and it needs to go in the trash. >> So >> I need to stick it to throw it away. Obviously, we're going to table it today
again till next meeting. Uh I think you guys need some clearer direction for homework. So the pol a simple policy I think loca I think we get the location nailed down. It's going to I it makes sense to be alongside the the mattress
container. Could almost use it to help delineate traffic some more, but we got to be able to swing the rolloff truck to pick up a container. So, it's it's got to be alongside the mattress. >> Okay. Then, how about this committee making up a list of things you want us to talk about.
>> I'll check with Missy again to see if she sent me something because that's what she was going to do. She was going to send me what other towns did. >> So, I'll reach out to >> because I think it seems like they have two things right now. One sticker, no sticker. And I know you're in the no sticker camp and I don't
>> No, not it's not necessarily being in that camp, but >> that defeats the purpose of this. >> No, I agree. I I agree. And then two, waiver, let's call it waiver language. If you drop something off, it's the only it's kind of like starting to head
towards that policy of like you drop it off, I this goes into the swap shed, it's no longer yours. or like you >> you can do you can address that like by like having a sign there once you leave it it becomes the property of the the town that I >> right
>> well those I mean those two things to >> I don't know how our town because every town's a little different what Elizabeth was saying other towns problems here for us to avoid is they come with other items to get rid of >> so it we somehow we got to educate our
people if they're coming to for the swap shed it should be that item I would think. >> What planet are you living on? >> You know, you're going to educate You have to educate our people. >> How else you going? Because if you don't
do that, now I'm back to a sticker. >> No, I I No. >> If they're coming with other items to get rid of that are not going to go in a swap shed, they're going to need a sticker. >> No, you're mixing. No, the other towns already have that problem is what I'm trying to tell you. >> Okay.
>> So, the only way to resolve that is they come with that item only. >> They got to be educated. >> Yeah. They put it on the side. >> Make a suggestion here. Actually, >> I heard Missy you Missy had some stories
of success and failure. Could you ask her for half a dozen if she's got them of each one >> and then >> send them to me and we can we can look at what's success and what's failure and then >> we got a list didn't we? I can't find mine but it was handed out from from some of from the other towns. I went
looking for it but I can't >> that was policies I think that they had what could or couldn't go in and there was only like three of them I think >> that's might be all you get. Um, that might be all you get. Three of them. >> But I mean, if if if other towns have
had problems, then what are the problems? >> It's the other items coming in >> and they they and they feel entitled to get rid of those other items besides the swap shed. >> Well, how about a publicity program when
we go into this? Everybody in town gets a notice. I think word of mouth will spread fast once people start saying I got this at the swap shred. >> Well, we get we get the websites. I know not the whole generation, the whole population uses it, but we got the
website. We can tweak a little bit and we we got the other disclaimer. You can there's a Facebook page, you know, the buy nothing site to offer it on the boy scouts or the Lions. So, you don't have to go to the transfer station. It's just the transfer station would be one of your options,
>> right, >> to keep stuff out of out of the cycle or the system. The stream, I'm sorry. Stream is the word I was looking for. >> Out of the stream, disposal streams. >> If you you're talking about somebody wants to bring something to the swap
shed. >> Mhm. >> But they don't want to go there. >> They have options. They're not They don't have to bring it there. >> Oh, you mean for the disposal of it? >> Yes. They have other options. >> Yeah. >> But not with the town,
>> right? They can choose not. We can steer them to other things beside the town. >> That's a good idea. >> That's I I call that a hybrid. >> I didn't realize SA SA took all this stuff from >> supposedly eventually. They may not. >> Well, I don't know.
>> I don't know how they do it either. >> And then you got to figure out who's going to get it all to save us. Are you guys going to >> No, they they supposed to come. they come. >> That's that's important for to get by these guys. They they got to come here to pick it up.
>> But whoever's going to clean house, I know it's not going to be Salvation Army because they already they they increased their standards. So don't even bother with Salvation Army. >> No, I sorry. Not to him, not you.
>> I I I know a couple of churches that have auctions and stuff like that. it. >> Correct. >> They have to take the stuff to save us in Providence. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> That's so will take anything. They'll take anything the church brings. But >> I'm not sure our town administrator is
going to let us do that. >> I don't know. He will. >> He might. I don't think so, though. >> No. >> Well, that's a point that should clear up then. Make sure make sure that uh save us will come and get it. >> So, who who's that on? That the committee? >> No, it's on this whole committee. Oh,
the whole committee >> calling the town administrator. >> I'll look into it. >> I'm highlighting all. >> All right, I think we beat that one. We got some work to do and we don't have to figure it out next month. We should know about the grant what not, but I think we're moving in a good direction because
it looks like we could do something. It's not a definite no. And that's that's where we need to be. We need to know. >> Are you taking a list of what he's looking for? >> Kind of. >> Kind of. >> Just see Liz. He'll Yeah. Liz is going
to help you anyways. All right. Are we okay with that for now? We can move on. >> Sure. >> Just make a motion to table it because I have an act in there. >> Um, so moved. >> Second.
>> Any further discussion? All in favor? >> I. Any oppose? >> Very good. >> Why are you watching the clock? >> So you don't get nervous. Compost bins. It's in the agenda. It's just in the agenda. So, you got anything else on a
couple spins there? >> I'm not selling as many as I'd like. So, maybe thisman can make an announcement there. >> It's expected to plateau and stop. And you might be already there. >> Uh sold >> eight. >> Okay.
>> No. Have I sold eight? >> Not even. >> No, not even. >> I I think we were having a discussion prior to the formal meeting opening. Um uh we have a cover sheet waiting for Missy to get give us an abbreviated
version of how to compost along with keep it simple >> and uh when we get those things from Missy uh Elizabeth and I can work together put a packet together and then I like I said I will >> that's all it takes is something
different I will deliver it around town to the town public buildings and also to any of the friends of Dy you know, like Alice's place like that, we could put up, people can pick it up. If they're interested in the cover sheet, they can flip it over. I'm interested in
composting. Oh, here's how you do it. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Instead of having to make a call to her, say, "Hey, what have you got?" You know, to help me out all at once. >> Every time somebody comes in bags, I ask a compost bin. So, last I knew Missy was
going to check with for River too for us to buy direct. We We never did get that all finalized. We haven't paid for the ones we have either. >> No. >> And that guy from For that just didn't get to him the last meeting we were at. >> Oh, he was there?
>> Yeah. Mr. Kennedy. So, that's still in limbo. If you talk to Missy, that's still going to get cleared up. >> All right. Taking a note. Okay, next one was >> Before you move on, I don't know about you. I'm just speaking for myself here.
You want us to meet again? What are you charging us with? >> Well, I think we're going to look at the sticker issue, the ownership of items issue, and then I'm I'm looking at like maybe suggestion of traffic flow, but
these are the two big ones right now. Sticker and then ownership of the >> Right. Those are the two I had identified. >> Sticker and >> ownership and ownership. >> Okay. >> So that that there's two locations that
will work. That's one of them. And don't and if you're thinking about it outside the meeting, don't forget about snow plowing because it matters where snow ends up. And and oh that's the other thing. Um, the other towns they were mentioning,
they're not 12 months a year. That helps. >> The swap jet isn't 12 months a year. >> No, it's not 12 months a year. >> You'd have to heat it. >> Definitely. >> Well, yeah. Weather's an issue, but it's dead anyway. So, they found just close definitely the January, February, March
people start to emerge. >> Right. Right. >> April, >> come out of hibernation. >> Right. >> We just talking the Cape Towns. >> Yeah. Okay. >> What do you think about having an auction to disposal of stuff in the
shed? >> I think you got entities to have them take it for you for auctions. Nonprofits like your boy. >> Who gets the money? >> It'll be the Boy Scouts or the baseball league or the Lions >> as you know how the Lions that's right
up their alley. They take it from the shed and it's not in the screen >> and they keep the money. >> Correct. >> So if we had an auction, we keep the money. >> You could. >> It's an idea. >> But how do you auction off something
that's not town property? >> It is town property. We just established that once I don't know. It's in limbo. >> Well, I'm going to say let's assume it is. >> All right. But uh then the select men have to declare it surplus. Well, let me
let's there's all all these technicalities, but my question to you is how do we auction off something that nobody's been wanting to pick up for like two months already? Maybe because if we put an auction on it makes it more attractive. >> I was just going to say auction is a magic word. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. That but that's a valid point. If you can get it for free, why would you come and pay for it? >> Yeah, >> that's a valid point. Yeah. >> No, there's a a little bit of magic in that word auction. >> Oh, true.
[Music] >> Do we have to I'm sorry. I know I'm jumping ahead because the compost bin, but do you want us It's review discuss that. Do we have to table it if we're done? >> I got a note to uh reach out to Missy to
see if we can purchase inventory through them. And then >> do we know how they how their program in Fall River is doing? The composting program. >> Missy said it's still about that's why they have so much >> basically stopped. >> Yes. >> Basically stopped.
>> That's why they're willing to just hand us some. >> They want to get rid of them. >> I think it might maybe you can answer this question. Maybe they'd be more successful in a residential community than it would be in a big city. >> Yeah, >> I think so. Yeah, >> it should be more popular
>> put the bin, >> you know, >> and and to use the >> the compost product itself, >> you have the whole uh right to farm community. So, a lot more people tend to do it here than
>> So, I'm going to get a a flyer with Missy and then I'm going to find out if willing to give us some inventory and I'm going to look into the invoice that they never sent us. And when when she sends you the information, contact me.
Work on that. Okay, moving on to transfer station fees. Uh, it's in the agenda. Just to let you know what I'm up to. I was hoping to do it together as a committee to make a recommendation for the town administrator and the SLman to act on,
but I needed to move this right along. uh the last two meetings if we didn't was not successful. Um so the fees increase are real. That's what I know and that's what all you guys are going to be acting on anyways. So I figured I'd give you up to date if I can. Is
that okay? >> How how do what what do you mean when you say the fees are real? >> My recommendations are real. Like Freon to get rid of it, the price has gone up. a mattress, the the pickup fee seems to
be more often than the milk runs. Those kind of things, those are real costs, so I want to capture them on the increase to cover the cost. >> Gotcha. >> Um, in the new proposed fees, I don't see
VCR. I don't see >> Well, I'm going to get to that. At first, I asked a question. Is it okay that I explain what I'm doing? >> Oh, sure. >> Okay. So along with the letter that I'm I the memo I prepared for the town administrator uh we we requested a fee
increase to the transfer station. The decision was made due to the rising cost, regulatory changes and pickup fees increases. The proposed increase fees will be as follows. And so I gave you the old sheet and in the proposed new sheet uh the three
items the new fee should be 35. previous was 30. Uh we're consolidating. So you when you look at the list, it's going to look a little different. So back to the freon, we're going to consolidate all the freon items to be 35. Not don't just spell out
refrigerator, freezer, and um air conditioner and a water bubble bubbler. All Freon items will be 35. Same thing with the mattresses. Instead of spelling them out differently, box spring mattresses, the new fee is 50. previous
fee was 40. Uh the mattress because of the size the crib is going to be 25. The previous was 20. Those are those only two isolated as far as consolidating mattresses. We had to separate those or keep them separate. The item other items
will be $2 per item minus the metals. We get paid to get rid of the metals right now. So there's no need to touch the metals. uh computer items, DVDs, VCR players, uh they being consolidated to all electronics. Uh the love seat, recliner,
microwave, ottoma, uh rigid plastic, sectional couch, TVs, toilets, sinks, and water heaters. I mean, I see this toilets and sinks. That should Yeah, that that should have been a $2 increment. >> It is. Yep. So, all the other items
reflect that. So again, minus the the metal and then the tires we didn't touch at all. We we're capturing that right now. We're still making about $4 a tire coming in, but yet the truck tire is dead even. The tractor tire is very
rare. Uh we'll probably not be picking up tires this fiscal year anyways. Um I think there's still a bill pending, but there's not going to be another pickup. So that I don't see a need to touch the tires. So that all those all those prices are
real. There's a reason you know in the market to increase them. Um the electronics they their disposal is by weight and that that debt fluxes a little bit. So point Mr. Fataco's point to review these
every year is to capture the small increments rather than all of a sudden you got to do a big increase. to touch them a little bit. So, it makes sense to go across the board and those non-ite items like that for the $2 and that's what I'm proposing and that's
the slutman are going to there'll be another time for the slutman to ask questions or public this coming. You're acting this Wednesday or making a recommendation? >> No, acting >> actually because we're having a public hearing. Okay. Yeah. >> Well, it's my hope that they'll act on it. So the the list at a glance the list
should look a little different because we consolidated some items and I I appreciate your comments about the pro price is subject to change. We we'll add that but that has nothing to do with this lemon acting. >> Yeah, understand. Yeah, the sticker price can say 30 because I
think it actually comes out to like 29 and change with the the average of how many people stickers are sold a year. So the 30 covers that cost. And again, it's not an actual enterprise. I'm just trying to get it very close.
>> Can you do me a favor? >> Yes. >> Um, when you go to landfill, use your charge plate. The last time I did it, the town charged me for the use of my charge plate. I've already talked to somebody about
because I think there's three states in the country, South Carolina, Massachusetts, and one other state where that's illegal. You can't do that. >> No, you can't. It's illegal. >> Yeah. >> What's the charge card? >> Huh? >> I'm asking
>> the fee for the charge card. >> Oh, >> the last time I used my charge card up there. Uh, >> so you you're saying it's illegal because you're purchasing a >> No, >> I mean >> I'm saying
if you go to the landfill >> Yeah. >> use your charge card. >> Mhm. >> Okay. They're going to charge you whatever the fee is for what you you're dumping off and then they're going to charge you for using your plate. >> Okay. >> Now, when I checked in, what I was told
by his secretary, that's part of the deal >> with the with the charge company. >> Yes. handles it. Okay. >> It's called a three st There's three states, South Carolina, Massachusetts, and one other that I'm aware of where it's illegal. I spoke to Mrs. Rich about
it, but she never got back to me. Let's find out. Do you know Do you know why it's illegal in the other states? >> Why it's >> why it's illegal? The search charge is it is it because >> I I read this in an article. >> Okay. All right. Uh um um it referenced
the the the three states where it's illegal. >> Okay. >> So yeah, I I I I know R because especially because he wrote it down. He's going to check on that. But I do know it's illegal on the gift cards to charge you that.
>> I asked Mrs. Rich, who's the the new state senator's rep one one >> to look into it, but she never got back to me. We'll talk to her next Tuesday next Wednesday. >> I know when I looked into getting a card reader for downstairs, it was $12 a
month just to have the machine people to swipe and then there was a service fee for every time somebody swipes. >> Yeah, that's that's from from the information I have that's illegal in Massachusetts. >> That'd be nice because uh the amount of checks haven't gone down. There's a lot
of people still using checks because of that because they know they have to pay a fee. >> Yep. Okay. So, we'll set the fees. I don't think we have to vote, but um if you guys want to make a recommendation,
I think Ralph would really like that. >> I'd recommend we move forward with these fees. Move forward to the selectments review with these fees. Are you going to take this chart to the >> one? Then why don't we vote on it?
Wouldn't that have a little more an impact on the select one? The fact that this committee voted on it. >> I just make a recommendation. >> I just made a motion. >> Just need a second. >> Is a motion made? I just need a second. >> I'll second it. >> Any further discussion?
All in favor? I >> Any oppose? Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Any new business? Well, yeah. What do you want Bob and I to do? >> Oh, yeah. I think we uh uh stick a fee
required uh ownership of items dropped off and then uh >> Oh, see transportation of goods, traffic flow. >> Yeah. >> And down auction. What do you want to do about an auction? >> That
right. >> Um put it on hold. We'll put a pin in it. >> Let's find out if Savers is coming to pick up >> transportation of goods. Yeah, that's on that who's transport who's bringing them where.
>> Thing that concerns me that we we don't seem to be addressing is we're going to be dealing with the public and that's a whole different ball game. You never know what they're going to come up with. So, be ready >> cuz you're going to have to deal with it.
>> We We kind of always are. >> I think when we get out, do you say bring it on when you get out of bed in the morning? Bring it on. >> I do. >> Bring it on. >> Time that old expression, you can fool some
of the people sometime. just take the word fool out, but you can make some of the people happy all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but never make everybody happy all the time. So, it's just, you know, >> yeah, that's >> you have to have somebody that's >> at the I don't know about the individual
working up the right personality to just and a document to go back and say have well I didn't know about that. Yeah, let me give you a copy. >> Yep. So some guidance would be great, but it also today's point has to be
publicized very very well, you know. >> Well, not that it's going to have much of an impression on the public, but it covers your Oh, yeah. >> It's a CYA situation. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Any public input? >> No.
>> Next meeting? >> We got December 1st at three. December 1st. >> You will not be here, Tom. >> Oh, what time? 3 o'clock. >> Uh, I may not be able to make it. >> December 8th.
>> I am going to the Patriots Giants game. It's Monday night for Wow. >> We have season tickets. >> It'll be a good day for the Patriots for a lot. Giants. >> What happened to Missy today?
>> I do not know. >> I wonder if she got confused because I thought there was a switcheroo in the time to 4:30. >> But so do you guys want to entertain skipping December waiting for the results for the grant and then go right
for January? >> I mean if if we could meet Okay. when we go to we take the train out of Mansfield and that train will probably leave at 6:30. Okay. So, I mean, if we can have a >> train
>> Yeah. like now for the 1:00 game, they leave at 10:45 out of Mansfield. Then they have to splice in between the two Boston trains and so you're there 90 minutes early. Okay. But you can spend more money. I mean that train would
probably leave if the meeting we could have our meeting but I'd have to leave >> my point my where I was going with it's it seems to be I know we need more discussion with the swap shed but that seems to be the heaviest thing in the agenda and also whether receive we
receive the grant or not is kind of important. >> Oh yeah. >> So I have no problem skipping December. Get the results hopefully by December. >> Shoot for January. skip the busyiness of December unless you guys want to meet
because I other than that you guys are main reason to get together. >> We can figure out how to solve all the world's problems, can't we? >> Sure. >> Absolutely. Just figure out when we want to meet. >> Yeah. I don't want to wait till January.
I'd rather meet, you know. >> No, no, no, no. You and I can meet separately. Yeah. >> Right. Call call me uh Mr. to tackle with any questions on guidance on that. >> Okay. >> Could you talk to the town administrator about having a dinner when we get
through with this project? >> That's that's a given. >> Yeah. Okay. >> We'll see if what people drop off at the swap shed. >> Jump off some stone top. >> So, when do we want to have our next >> So, it'll be January 6. Uh January 5th.
>> 5th. Okay. >> Well, just so you know, not that to hold up. I will not be here. Don't worry about me. >> Oh, you'll probably zoom in. >> No. >> 3 3 p.m. >> Are you going away for New Year's?
>> We're going on a cruise. >> Very nice. Are we Are we meeting 3 p.m. >> 3 p.m.? >> Uh out of Florida? Yeah. >> To West Bahamas and then back. >> Nice. >> Yeah.
You guys want to do anything with the October 6 minutes? >> Was there any Bob Neilies on there? >> No. >> Oh, you going to add him? You think? >> I didn't. >> No. Remember the last time I wrote Bob Me?
>> Oh, Bob Mey. >> You said there was no Bob Neilies in there. >> You know, when that master got that charge, you don't have to get back to me the next meeting. You let me know. >> Okay. like to make an announcement. But before we close, it's not has nothing to do with
>> um our business. >> I'll make a motion to accept the minutes of October 6th. >> I would second. >> Any further discussion? All in favor? >> I opposed. So before we adjourn, >> yeah, I' I'd like to make an
announcement. Um, Dyton has been recognized uh by a national organization as a Purple Heart community and we will formally uh accept everything involved with that on the 12th of November at 6
PM in the uh middle school. So, if you're interested in attending, please attend. Thank you. What you having there? >> Breakfast this week. What? >> This week? Saturday. >> This coming Saturday. >> Yeah.
>> 13 tables I got to bring up. Sounds like a lot. >> Well, this whole last >> Yeah. 13 tables. A lot of tables though. Last year was three quarters full. You want to get together? I should admit this publicly, but I'm not as busy as you are, so at your
convenience. >> I need a motion to adjurnn. >> Oh, motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Any oppose? >> Very good. >> Did we get something done? Sort of.