WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=ncYuW92zlGg NOTE MEETING SECTIONS: Part 1 (Video ID: ncYuW92zlGg): - 00:00:05: Redistricting Discussion and Transfer Station Updates - 00:02:29: Transfer Station Attendant and Resident Waste Disposal - 00:04:06: Compost Surplus, Free Compost, Yard Waste Details - 00:05:48: Compost Accumulation, Loom Material, Container Pricing Discussion - 00:07:38: Shipping Container Prices, Features and Versatility Options - 00:09:09: Container Configurations and Concerns About Bad Weather - 00:10:38: Awning, Lighting, Bathroom Concerns and ADA Compliance - 00:11:50: Making the Decision and Further Clarifying Delivery Charges - 00:13:17: Roof Complexities, Product Features and Vendor Selection - 00:14:57: Product Similarities, Vendor Selection, Warranty Discussion - 00:16:22: Ventilation, Motion to Select Vendor, Trash Bag Price - 00:17:26: Trash Bag Price Increase, State Contract, State Contractors - 00:18:46: State Contracts, Cost of Bags, Volume Concerns - 00:20:07: Switching Over To Tags, Cost Concerns and Issues - 00:21:44: Stickers, Waste Amounts and Bag Density Discussion - 00:23:05: Counterfeit Concerns and Thoughts on Bag Rolls - 00:24:35: Price of Bags, State Contracts List and State Contractors - 00:25:48: Bag Price Increase, Negative Revenue and General Fund - 00:27:26: Trash Pickup, New Board of Health and Compost Bins - 00:28:22: Compost Bin Vendor, Ordering and Minimum Quantities - 00:30:00: Ordering Bins for Municipalities and Volume Discount - 00:31:22: Rain Barrels, Compost Bins and Local Shipping - 00:32:31: Compost Bin Pricing, Other Sizes, Discount Concerns - 00:33:38: Countertop Scrap Buckets and Best Options Available - 00:34:59: Countertop Food Scrap Buckets Prices Per Case - 00:36:12: Suggested Orders, Money Available and Compost - 00:37:21: Library Gardening Club and Marketing Opportunities - 00:38:28: Trailer Space, Compost Bins and Buckets Space - 00:39:40: Zip Tie Bags, Door Repairs and Local Storage Options - 00:40:45: Office Space, Fall River and Freetown Sales - 00:42:14: Strawberry Festival and Promotion of Sales - 00:43:40: Composting Program, Public Percentage, Order Numbers - 00:45:21: Board of Health Briefed, Trash Collection and State Rules - 00:46:44: Waste Reduction Committee Authority to Spend Money - 00:48:04: Drop Off Bins, Twopoint Credit and Waste Reduction - 00:49:28: Best Practices, Authorization and Buckets Quantity - 00:50:39: Bins and Buckets, Pricing Tiers and Recommendations - 00:51:47: Recommendation Discussion, Logistics, Table Space - 00:53:26: Saturday Meeting, Storm Water, Motion to Close Part: 1 1 00:00:05.920 --> 00:00:24.720 redistricting positions. She must know how to stay in that district. >> I think they still do. >> Why are they doing that? No idea. Because they can downsize. In other words, expanding the district. 2 00:00:24.720 --> 00:00:50.320 >> No, I didn't think they downsizing. They just restructured. Jerry Remember Bonnie Frank Bonnie Franks yesterday was about half an inch wide running through. Okay, I'll call the meeting in order. We 3 00:00:50.320 --> 00:01:09.760 know Mr. Ne's on his way. We'll be here momentarily. Myself is here. Perry and Elizabeth taking notes as reports transfer station things are still 4 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:26.400 smooth as tenant still gets challenged once in a while but it's doing a great job educating them and for the most part they're not repeat offenders. >> Uh question uh and I know this is coming out of the blowout. How are we doing? 5 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:41.759 You know, you recall we we went through uh went over the data, etc., and then set some new pricing, etc. stickers. How are we doing with that in terms of covering those costs or or you know, are we in the ballpark? >> Yes, we we're in because I I know we 6 00:01:41.759 --> 00:01:59.119 went into this, we said, well, we we feel comfortable doing this, but we recognize we said to the public, this is still a work in progress. So, how how great we we're we're doing fine. Uh the only family known I don't know is a few less grace and claws and I don't know 7 00:01:59.119 --> 00:02:13.599 there's no way of grabbing that now. The time has to go by before you grab it and then who knows how long the price is going to >> it is it is now and I can't give you a definitive answer on that now. >> Well, it's the only unknown. 8 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:29.520 >> Okay. But in in terms of what we what we did taking fuel out, did we are we close to hitting the bullseye, you know, covering those costs? Great. That's good. You know, that's that's great. >> We do have one unique present. We have 9 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:46.879 it from time to time. Um, nothing to do with expenses on the time. Uh, our attendant noticed a young person coming in more frequently than other land owners. So, question is it 10 00:02:46.879 --> 00:03:02.480 commercial? you know, he's he is that kid, turns out the kid is doing work on the side and coming to dispose of the yard raceways for free. So other residents that see him come in frequently knows he's doing it and they brought that to the attendant's 11 00:03:02.480 --> 00:03:17.280 attention and they confronted that person. They were a little upset. It's not labeled a business on a truck and whatnot, but he's just getting started. I gave uh it got to the point where dad 12 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:33.120 called me. I gave them some three other other options they can do on their own and you know it's okay to see the kid once in a while but not frequently and they like those options. That's where we are with that. But it's not the first time we've had that. People test 13 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:51.360 that. So everything else, you know, I mean just uh deal with it as it pops up. >> So what's the joy? You can take it to >> residents only. >> Res. >> No commercial. No commercial waste any mulch. What do you do with it? 14 00:03:51.360 --> 00:04:06.799 >> Oh, we we make compost out of it. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yes. >> But we don't want to take it at the commercial level because when we have it, we own it. >> Uh we have >> No, no, I'm just kidding. >> We have quite a surplus of it right now. It's not leaving faster than making it. 15 00:04:06.799 --> 00:04:23.120 >> So compost like that. So up on we had we had so much on hand we had to move it a few years back. We have probably 300 yards up on Maple Street just stop by and it's it's free to people taking now at the current 16 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:38.000 transfer station. >> What is considered yard is like branches and stuff. >> No that that particular stuff is clippings and leaves. Yes. Cleanups. Yeah. >> Yeah. We don't screen it yet. Um, we should get a screener once in a while 17 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:55.400 and screen everything. Yeah. >> Now you now your stuff is more attractive and definitely take it. >> Do you take the big bags? >> No. >> You just have to empty the >> All bags have to be emptied. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Sometimes they sneak in. 18 00:04:55.600 --> 00:05:17.199 >> I know. Right. >> Can we sell or >> I believe we can sell it though by the bucket. >> Well, you can do the auction. I like the 19 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:32.080 revoling fun idea too. >> Auction it off. >> Yes. Usually it's a pile. Keep it on a pile and you're responsible to move it. >> Okay. >> It's like grinding. >> Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't think about like they need thinking like a a 20 00:05:32.080 --> 00:05:48.160 commercial person like mulch or whatever. Yeah. Compost. No, I only asked the question because you said you had like 300 yards of store. I mean if we reach a point where you don't you would see you see it accumulating 21 00:05:48.160 --> 00:06:03.440 far more quickly than it's going out. You know that might be something to explore later on. I was mixing it with road sweepings and stuff making loom type material. They will grow stuff, you know, the yards and stuff, but we don't want people putting the gardens because 22 00:06:03.440 --> 00:06:56.160 the road weakens, you know, the stuff on Maple Street. The newer stuff is pure. It's not it's not contaminated at the transfer station or potentially. Should I go see if she's coming? >> Greetings from the president. ask us at breakfast the other morning. I 23 00:06:56.160 --> 00:07:19.440 got around the stern and look at some of somebody that I better be here. >> Who could it be? >> Doesn't tell you what. >> So, we did start the meeting. I gave her a quick report on the transfer station. We're about ready to start talking about 24 00:07:19.440 --> 00:07:38.080 the swap shed, but uh Elizabeth went to see if Missy is going to zoom in or not. She wanted to be part of this. So, we'll just give her a minute for that. So, if you got any questions, I can answer them at this time. >> No, I'll pick I'll pick it up along the 25 00:07:38.080 --> 00:08:02.000 way. >> Okay. What I do have, I didn't print out copies for everyone. Um, I got two prices here for shipping containers. They're both off of combines already, so 26 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:18.400 it's already been procured, but I do have a third vendor, but they never really gave us a solid price to purchase. They wanted us to lease because that's where they made the money. for free to look. 27 00:08:18.400 --> 00:08:35.360 We do have the money on hand. We So again, we have the $6,000 grant go towards it, plus we have $18,000 um from similar grants that we can apply to this to make the purchase. And the container I'm considering, this 28 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:50.880 is what the side doors look like. And when it's open, it's just one big open. Or we can go with the four doors in the side and put the shelving units in between the doors ways. So you make several compartments. 29 00:08:50.880 --> 00:09:09.519 You you might have more versatility that way. It's actually cheaper amount of quotes to go over. >> We still have $5,000 towards that. >> 6,000 >> six. >> Yep. So sterling you have just I like the 30 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:25.839 idea with this container showing this way someone could look in you don't have to have people wandering around the price the showing run >> yeah and deliver parallel to this have to go in around and like this 31 00:09:25.839 --> 00:09:48.000 configuration a little bit better has zero delivery charge >> yeah saw And the other one is 2200 and change. They both come out three and a quarter difference. One's out of New Jersey, one's in metaphor. >> Which one was it? The like the 32 00:09:48.000 --> 00:10:06.640 >> uh it's uh sterling. Um >> do you not have microphones anymore? >> Yeah, right there. Well, we don't have a door unless like door 33 00:10:06.640 --> 00:10:22.720 pass door. No, you can go in the end. >> What are we going to do with bad weather? >> You can you you get the end door. >> What's bad weather? >> Rain snow. >> Rainy snow. You can open up like that. 34 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:38.480 >> All this is going to be exposed. >> You could because the roof is right over it. There'll still still be a roof. Three sides also doors don't close. No, they can close. Yeah. He's asking, "Ah, you're going to be open when you get back." 35 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:55.440 >> Can you put a little awning on it? I mean, >> you could. There's no lighting in these either. Got to consider lighting, too. >> Is there a bathroom? >> There is a bathroom. We're required by 36 00:10:55.440 --> 00:11:11.600 law to have a bathroom on the facility. >> Oh, I think it's something >> I No, because we're open to the public. >> Yep. Uh, is it 88? I don't know. I might want to check out that. It's probably You might have a problem with the door. 37 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:29.279 The door knob. >> It's on the port. >> No. >> Oh, it's part of the equipment garage. >> Okay. It's been there for years. So, the ADA might have a problem with the type of door. Now, they can bring that up. I 38 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:50.800 think that's the only challenge they would have. >> Yeah. >> So, they both even if you went with So, this one here is 6,400 for the four sets of doors on the side, but it's still got the 2,200 and change delivery. 39 00:11:50.800 --> 00:12:14.959 So, it comes out to 18,750. So, they're about the same. And I uh I had concerns that we're making a decision without the board of health. Elizabeth already ran by the board of health last week on our intentions. They have no problem dipping 40 00:12:14.959 --> 00:12:31.040 into the other money we already have in our bank on the other grants. I'm board with that. Well, I would, you know, based upon all that we've done, all research, I would take make a motion defer 41 00:12:31.040 --> 00:12:47.120 your so it comes down to difference of 325. They're both from combines. >> So, I don't think you can go wrong here. One's in Massachusetts, one's in New Jersey. Obviously, New Jersey cost charging us 42 00:12:47.120 --> 00:13:17.680 $2,200 for delivery. Are you considering the roof that they're talking about on this one? Sometimes have a roof made so you can have an outdoor shop area. No. No. Both are 10 grand. 43 00:13:17.680 --> 00:13:50.079 >> Yes. Yot do you want to complex too? >> They could be. Why not? Yeah, >> they are. They both are. So they must the sterling one must have worked it charge any price they charge 44 00:13:50.079 --> 00:14:07.440 zero but they must work it out sterling from uh this man local I mean I technically almost it has the same features 45 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:35.800 right They both offer this $4 option. Just the one from New Jersey 6,400. But then he had >> he had that 86 versus,000. 46 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:57.120 >> I mean, you know, guess you present it to Right. >> I understand. Yeah. They're both the same. Right. Okay. I don't think color is a huge problem 47 00:14:57.120 --> 00:15:14.040 either way on both of them. You know, we're going to have something bright. It's probably going to be the sand castle red brown idea similar similar to that. Right. 48 00:15:14.959 --> 00:15:33.040 Do we need to vote on an actual vendor? We probably should my only if we're talking about 200 my office. Okay. And certainly >> go for the lowest bit, but I would also default to 49 00:15:33.040 --> 00:15:50.079 Massachusetts cover. That's great. >> I would like to see it go that way, but I want the best product also. So, >> and both the same product, a little over $300 cheaper out of New Jersey. 50 00:15:50.079 --> 00:16:05.680 There's an issue. Are there any warranties with this thing at all in warranties or guarantees? If you have an issue, again, I'd rather have somebody local. I mean, I would defer to whatever you want to do. I'd rather have thing come out of >> No, I don't know. There's no warranty, 51 00:16:05.680 --> 00:16:22.880 but they're both supposed to be new or one trip. >> What is one trip? >> They were used once across the ocean. >> Okay. >> Just used once. >> Y ventilation. >> They all have four corner small ventilations. We'll probably add live 52 00:16:22.880 --> 00:16:41.600 ones like we do with that trash bag in town. >> Yeah. Getting hot in the summer. >> Yeah. Let's take I'll make that motion to move to 53 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:59.560 Mr. Perry to select the most responsive and responsible bidder for the swap check. Second >> without without any money limit on the motion >> not to exceed $9,000. 54 00:17:00.079 --> 00:17:26.720 >> Secondly, any further discussion in favor? and close. >> All right. >> Put the burden on me now. >> Yeah. >> Uh, next would be the trash bag, right? 55 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:42.640 >> Going to sleep. >> The board did not want to make the motion because they weren't um satisfied with not getting enough bids. So, I have to put the request out there to get trash bags for the >> the trash bag price increase. That's what's next, right? 56 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:57.039 >> Yeah, I believe so. I got to wait for my computer to wake up. >> Yeah. But what what what bids? >> All I got was waste zero. >> Yeah, but that's not the trash. >> Are you talking about >> making the bags or selling the bags? 57 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:14.320 >> No, trash bag price increase. >> I took I took it as what would you want to increase the sale of the bags. That's where I >> Yeah, we we had you motion to increase it. It went to the >> Yeah. >> health department. 58 00:18:14.320 --> 00:18:30.720 >> So they want to know they want so that I'm a little confused. So So as I understand so we want they want to just this is this is if you raise it to $30 on the current trash bag price. This is 59 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:46.880 what it is. just a little in the whole 40 grand. But um but so they want to factor in the new the new bad cost in it >> before they make a final recommend. 60 00:18:46.880 --> 00:19:04.240 >> Okay. Yeah. And I only got one company to respond. So >> yeah. >> Can I >> um So one of the things that um trash bags are on state contracts. So, you should be able to get pricing directly from state contract for that. Um, WZero, 61 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:19.919 Mansfield, Paper, and then there's one other company that sells bags. Um, but that is off of the state contract. So, the pricing for that should be, you know, uniform across the state. Just throwing that out there. You don't necessarily have to go out to bid for 62 00:19:19.919 --> 00:19:34.880 it. >> Good afternoon. >> Good afternoon. And then and then the other thing is is definitely you want to include >> the new costs um within your bags and that's something that we try to encourage our towns to do you know 63 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:51.600 ideally be yearly because the price of your bags go up every year but um you know every couple of years to really look at the pricing of your bags and any of your costs and make sure that gets um part of your the bag price that you sell sell to the residents. What is what is 64 00:19:51.600 --> 00:20:07.360 the current contractual price right now through the state? >> I honestly don't know. I sorry I don't it depends on the volume and all that kind of stuff, but um I can send you that. I'll do that right now with the um what the current pricing is for that. 65 00:20:07.360 --> 00:20:23.440 >> So the board also was curious about switching over to tags or something other than bags. I told them we already went down that route. Yeah, >> the last board and they they they're still curious to see 66 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:39.840 it. Okay. What are their issues? >> The cost the same thing as across the state is the the tags are um there's so many problems with the tags and mainly what it is is that residents can like be 67 00:20:39.840 --> 00:20:54.960 tricky with it. They don't stick to the bags as thor you know your regular bag as thoroughly. Oh, my back my tag ripped. Oops. You know, and then they have two bags, you know, stickers. Um, the other thing is people can take the stickers off. Um, you have to get 68 00:20:54.960 --> 00:21:10.320 waterproofing stickers, waterproof stickers to stay on there well enough. Um, we looked at the pricing the last time before to get anything waterproof in a sticker. Um, you really have to, um, pay a lot more money for it. They 69 00:21:10.320 --> 00:21:26.640 are very expensive. So, it's not the last time we looked it wasn't saving any money. I think of anything was slightly lower or um especially by the time you know the residents still have to buy their own bags and then they would have to you know buy the extra sticker on top of it. 70 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:44.400 >> They things if they don't have a clear bag they can also get inventive and hide things in there too. Yes. So, so Mrs. They use I mean does it by using stickers does it uh does it reduce the 71 00:21:44.400 --> 00:22:00.480 amount of waste a person throws away or or it increases the amount of waste. >> It increases it increases you could use a 40 gallon bag put a sticker on. >> Exactly. Exactly. And you know the thing is you know all Texas Amazon Uline you 72 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:15.280 start thinking about the whole range of bags sizes you know it could be a supposed to be a 35gallon bag well theirs is 39 you know like something like that and so it really it gets harder for you know even um you know 73 00:22:15.280 --> 00:22:31.280 your your hauler um the borches to to determine. The other thing is someone has a really really strong thick bag. It might be 35 gallons, but dang, you can squash a lot in there because it's able to, you know, expand more because it's a higher density of plastic where the 74 00:22:31.280 --> 00:22:49.440 flimsier bags. So, it it's it's it becomes a slippery slope and most towns have moved away from it. Um, you know, some people that have done it for a million years are fighting to keep it, but the reality is what we've seen across the state is that it it actually 75 00:22:49.440 --> 00:23:05.039 doesn't increase your trash significantly, but it could be enough in a small town like like Dyon that it that it is there. And then, I hate to say it, all it takes is, you know, a few residents to know how to game the system and thanks to social media before we know it, everybody knows how to do it. 76 00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:20.960 And you just want to, you know, make it easier. >> Yeah. When I looked into it, there was a lot of issues counterfeit. People would make their own yeah and that was the other thing is you know any more technologies you know with our 77 00:23:20.960 --> 00:23:38.080 computers are so easy to do or you do it at work. Um the other thing is is I think we had talked about over the past was in Dyton you sell your your um bags in rolls of 10. Most towns sell them in in rows of five 78 00:23:38.080 --> 00:23:54.960 because it is a big hit, you know, on on a household budget, you know, having to buy 10 bags. Yes. Yes. It's great. You don't have to run out as much. But it is it does, you know, it's a perception, you know, that you're, you know, oh my gosh, my trash is this much, you know, whereas if you have to buy them every, 79 00:23:54.960 --> 00:24:18.480 you know, twice as much, it's not as bad. So, just some thoughts on that. I don't know if we've bringing that up again, but >> Well, yeah, we got another one. We're going to raise the bags to $10 a bag or whatever. >> Yeah. >> Oh, I will come to the next meeting with 80 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:35.520 um whatever they decide to do. >> I'm interested to see that once we get the price on the state contract, then you could answer that question. You know, what's the differential? You know, if you go up x number of cents 81 00:24:35.520 --> 00:24:56.880 cost, what's it going to cost uh for us to cure them? >> 42933. >> Yeah. Yeah. Missy, can you send me the list of the state contractors? >> I'm sorry. The what? 82 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:18.159 >> Send me the list of the state contracts. >> Yep. Yep. Do you want it right now? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Those are I can get the new price. >> So, we did talk about both purchasing the bags and charging. Yeah. I mean, I 83 00:25:18.159 --> 00:25:33.840 don't see how you intended about purchase though. >> The Yeah, the bag price increase. That's what I thought it was. >> Okay. But, I mean, I think we have to have full figures. If you're going to run out, well, how much uh money can we defer from uh 84 00:25:33.840 --> 00:25:48.320 appropriate funds? I we need to know how much it cost and then how much we feel like we could charge and then that's going to show us, you know, how much is going to come out of appropriate or >> Well, yeah, but I think at this at this 85 00:25:48.320 --> 00:26:06.640 point, um we can only jot so much down. So it's over. So it factors in. So somehow now based on the numbers that Liz gave me, we're down 40,000 40,000. 86 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:22.400 Maybe with bags with the new bag price uh bag production price it may be more, it might be less, but we're kind of we're right in that negative range. But well, I mean there's only so much you can go through here, right? So, but I mean are we going in the right direction 87 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:38.320 is is the question, you know, is is are we >> I would say yes because at the current bag price 280 a bag let's say these where those are constant numbers at 280 a bag we're down $67,000 88 00:26:38.320 --> 00:26:55.520 in the negative at $3 a bag down $39,000. So we're down less. Well, yeah. But here again, I mean, we're the difference between here and here >> uh is money that is not coming out of appropriated funds, 89 00:26:55.520 --> 00:27:11.279 >> right? >> Okay. So, I mean that you know any anything that you allow to go in that direction, >> right? >> Right. So, we have like like third grade going into into the general fund. So, we don't have to 90 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:26.559 >> we're not um subsidizing Yeah. the trash. We ought but not by as much. >> Well, yeah. And I think, you know, that's the key. That's where we started way back when was let's try to, you know, reduce that figure as much as possible and and we're headed in that 91 00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:47.919 direction. So, that's good. >> And this is just pick up. That's all that is. >> Yeah. Well, >> that's that's right. >> Okay. Trash truck. Yeah, we did we did quite a bit of work 92 00:27:47.919 --> 00:28:07.240 on the stickers and some past. >> We have a fairly new order of health like they have intuitively move forward correctly though. That's good. >> Okay, moving right along. Compost bins 93 00:28:07.840 --> 00:28:22.320 is that >> missing. >> Yes. So, I'm sorry. I'm trying to look up. So unfortunately the vendors for the plastic bags are not with the compost bin and the trash can vendor. So I need to dig it out. I remember now it's 94 00:28:22.320 --> 00:28:38.480 vaguely like a paragraph in the instructions. So it's I got to find the right comb is not easy >> and they keep and they and they keep revamping it every now and then. So I'm like uh I will send it to you. But I do vaguely do remember is that it does not 95 00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:54.159 actually have the pricing in there. you would have to call them. So, it's not something we could decide right now. >> Um, it's just like call these three vendors, but I will find that for you. >> Um, so the compost bins. So, um, you guys are actually doing a great job 96 00:28:54.159 --> 00:29:11.039 selling the compost bins. Um, Fall River did not send the invoice for their, um, their the bins that they gave you. So, what I thought would be easier and also get you guys in the habit of being um you know being able to do this moving forward in the future is ordering your 97 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:28.720 own bins. And so, I thought what you would do you would do an order ideally it's you want to keep enough on hand for a couple of years. You don't want to have to keep running out and buying them all the time. Um and then also buy some extra to give back to Fall River. So, I 98 00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:43.919 think it was uh I keep forgetting to check. Um it was 11 12 bins, but anyway, so give them enough to give back. Um what I've discovered is that you have to have a minimum order of 25 bins. And if 99 00:29:43.919 --> 00:30:00.880 you get a minimum order of 25 bins, then you don't have to pay shipping, which is basically um not not a bad deal. Um, but what I have proposed to um to Liz and to Ralph is that because Dyon's small and then I've got a number of smaller 100 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:18.480 communities near you who are also small and that they might have harder a hard time making these minimum quantities that if Liz, you know, this particular round would take the task of ordering uh bins for the other municipalities 101 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:34.720 and then she would build them for them and then we'd be ble to get a larger volume discount um where because the more you order the price will go down and then also um getting any free shipping that you would want. So the thing with ordering the bins everyone 102 00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:51.440 first thinks about the space involved. The the one of the reasons why I like the compost bin that you're using now is because it rolls up into like kind of like a big yoga mat basically. The other ones are a hard plastic shell that I can 103 00:30:51.440 --> 00:31:07.120 only be described as a Darth Vader head element and they're they're really they're huge. They're probably five, six feet around and they're probably four or five feet tall and you have to stack them. They're very they take a lot of space. So, you know, I want people to be 104 00:31:07.120 --> 00:31:22.880 able to, you know, put them in a health department closet or, you know, tuck in a little corner in the DPW, not having, you know, Tommy to carve out a huge space in his yard for these bins. So, that's why I go with those models. There are other ones out there. So, um, that's 105 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:38.720 just kind of how it is. And I found out because the two companies for, uh, I'm sorry, the rain, you don't want rain barrels, right? No rain barrels. Okay. No rain barrels. Okay. that that that's another New England company. So the other advantage is that the compost bins are actually 106 00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:53.279 made in New Bedford. So it's a local company and shipping is really fast and state contract. It says it takes like 45 days, but I've been heard from everybody that you're going to get them for, you know, like in a week pretty much. So that's kind of the thing. So the pricing 107 00:31:53.279 --> 00:32:15.679 I just pulled that up, which is does not include plastic bags on it. Uh let me look at that. Sorry. Okay. So, and this doesn't have to do this. This was just something I've been trying to 108 00:32:15.679 --> 00:32:31.600 do to help all the other smaller towns out to get good pricing on this. Um, and then, um, you know, it could be rotated. Other towns could do this as well. Uh, so let's see. So, the compost bins, 109 00:32:31.600 --> 00:32:47.840 we are looking at the new age composter, and they do come in other sizes, but the cost for one is $75 plus shipping. But if you order 20 uh 110 00:32:47.840 --> 00:33:04.399 over actually over if you order over 20, uh the shipping is free. And at that point, if you order from 2100 21 to 100, they're $70. And it's also the 111 00:33:04.399 --> 00:33:22.000 same price if you go up to 250. But basically, to get any discount or anything, you really need to order at least 21 bins. The other thing we looked at in the past for the scrap buckets for the countertop 112 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:38.559 and the one I mean you can use any one you want. Um, of course this one is actually surprisingly the cheapest one and I think it's actually the best one. It's a company called Sure Close. That's what it's called and it runs 113 00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:54.559 $8.95 per per countertop bucket. However, if you order, you know, 50 to 100, it drops down to $7.95. And if you order over 200, it drops down to 6.95. And I'm 114 00:33:54.559 --> 00:34:11.760 actually encouraging everyone to order, maybe not totally double, but at least, you know, one and a half order extra countertop scrap buckets than you do the com uh backyard compost bins because somebody might want two. you know, 115 00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:26.480 should you wash one or you have, you know, a lot of stuff you want to collect. The other thing is when I was meeting with a lot of your residents, they um they have already their own backyard compost bins or they have chickens and so they like the buckets 116 00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:42.320 because those buckets are great to feed their chickens in because it's got a nice twisty handle, you know, it's got special holes so the bugs can't get in or out. So that was the other reason why especially in in Dyon and my farming communities, you definitely want to have more of those buckets which are pretty 117 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:59.599 cheap and easy to store as well. So that's just it for for um buckets and and bins. >> What was the price of the buckets again? >> The buckets uh those are the things again that that go onto the um 118 00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:17.440 countertop. Everyone gets confused. They think they can actually compost in those little guys. So, the things that go onto the countertop for your food scraps. Uh, let me see here again. >> Yeah, >> it starts at 119 00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:31.920 um >> we have 50 at 795, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. 795 785. >> Sorry, wrong went there. Uh, so the first 25. Oh, so the other thing 120 00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:48.640 is they come 25 per case. So it's the first one is $8.95 for 25. If you order 50 to 100, it drops down a dollar to 7.95. And if you order 200, it drops down to 121 00:35:48.640 --> 00:36:12.000 $6.95. Do >> we have anywhere to put up? >> Not much more than buying 30 and 50. >> And so, um, I had kind of made up some suggested orders. If you do want to do my suggestion and work with the other 122 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:28.720 towns to get the larger quantities to, you know, to save it, it might make more work for you. I don't know, but I'm just kind of suggesting it. They're looking to purchase from us. >> So if we buy them, 123 00:36:28.720 --> 00:36:48.320 >> we buy them 30 and 50. We should have the money to do that. After the shed, we should still have the money. You're looking at the buckets and compound and the compost. >> Uh she just said the compost 124 00:36:48.320 --> 00:37:05.040 the buckets. But I will double check. >> How many did they want? Do you remember? >> There wasn't many. I think 20 if I remember correctly. >> How much buckets we sold this year? 125 00:37:05.040 --> 00:37:21.200 Yeah. Just a guess. >> Five. >> Five. >> So, the other thing is what you can do is like promote it a little bit more as well. Um, in the spring and the fall. Um, and now that you have your new library, like working with them to 126 00:37:21.200 --> 00:37:41.119 possibly get a, you know, gardening club member or I can come down and talk about composting, um, you know, put it on social media, that kind of thing. Or even like any of your A-frames that you have out there, um, to promote them as well. And the other thing is I like to um 127 00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:56.320 actually for the schools that if they have um you know an ice cream social or something like that, you can offer them a free bin for them to raffle off. And then while you're doing that, you also would have a lot of recycling and 128 00:37:56.320 --> 00:38:28.880 composting information, you know, when they display it kind of thing. So you're almost, you know, helping to educate people as well and giving them information that if they don't win it, how they can buy one. bags. >> No, not if you're buying an order like 129 00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:59.280 that. What's in this trailer back here? >> That's a flat. Um, yeah, there may be room at the transfer station in front of Big Auto. I'm thinking 30 bends in 50 buckets. That 130 00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:22.800 comes out to stretches over 4,000. >> So are the always rolled up or they can you lay them flat? >> Should be laid flat. >> Lay them flat. >> It would you might lose parts depending who's picking them up. 131 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:40.400 >> Yeah, you and you can order extra parts. So it might not be a bad idea to order, you know. those bin and the lid, right? >> Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. But there's a little plastic bag of the >> zip tie things. Yeah. 132 00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:56.240 >> That's right. >> Yeah. >> About that. So, right at the transfer station, right next to metal container, >> the door needs to be fixed. >> Fix the door. We could probably put him in there. It's not useful for me for 133 00:39:56.240 --> 00:40:12.560 anything else. I was thinking about selling. >> So that's one of the things I don't most most municipalities don't really have the space for 50, but you know if you had 10 on hand or you know 20 or whatever um that would be good to last you a couple of years 134 00:40:12.560 --> 00:40:28.720 >> and it might fit you ended up container that's coming too. >> So do we we owe Fall River 11? No, it wasn't even thought it was >> 10 or 12 maybe. I >> it was 12. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. 135 00:40:28.720 --> 00:40:45.599 >> Yeah. And then 12 scrap buckets as well. >> In terms of space, where are those 12 that we got for fall? We sell some or so we're storing some. >> She she has some and I have some dude downstairs. 136 00:40:45.599 --> 00:41:05.520 >> Okay. >> So, she's going to office space. I don't know. >> No, I'm just trying to think out, you know, the logistics of this thing because if we owe some >> if we owe uh Fall River 12, >> okay, then that 18 to store another 137 00:41:05.520 --> 00:41:21.440 small seven or so is 25 >> plus the ones that Freetown want to buy. So that >> Yeah. So I mean that takes more out of that lessons to storage space. >> We had a surface of interest. Couple went out. It might happen again. We haven't really promoted it much either. So, 138 00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:37.040 >> Right. Right. I mean, for that's what I mean. For you guys not really promoting it all that much, you really did a pretty decent job of selling. So, a runup to the Strawberry Festival, if we actually promote it more between now and then, then when residents see it, they 139 00:41:37.040 --> 00:41:56.720 won't be shocked. They're like, "Oh, hey, I could buy one here." Or, you know, >> do a monthly farmers market, too. So, >> Oh, yeah. Are you um can you collect the reason I ask is like we've got the cow chip and strawberry festival. I 140 00:41:56.720 --> 00:42:14.560 >> mean I'll be out there the cow chip and I'm not to collect money. So if we could have three or four out there people might want to buy it. >> Oh and for the the record I'm sticking with Dyton. I'm not going to be moved to a different district. So >> I've been I've been given a choice. So 141 00:42:14.560 --> 00:42:30.000 I'm like I'm going to stay down here. So, okay. I I don't want to have to drive to Arlington and Waltham and inside all that traffic and mess. I like my little rural communities. But anyway, so um so you know, it is something that I could probably pop down 142 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:47.200 and do as well or even, you know, you know, get a scout, you know, somebody from the scouts or something like that to do that as well for one of their badges, you know. >> Okay. because there's something we you know we're gonna we're going to need more on hand if we have an influx. 143 00:42:47.200 --> 00:43:04.000 >> Well, no, I just order to do before. >> Yeah, we can do that. I mean, I we had one set up last night before the wind blew everything away. Um but I I'll be out there. Um >> well, the the other thing is set up. >> Why wait? Because we have the money that goes that can be used for this. Why why 144 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:19.680 wait? >> Well, I'm not suggesting we wait. What I'm suggesting is in terms of marketing, you know, we could have we set up one last year. We could have a couple out there which I'll set up. I'll put it together and a couple more to on display and how they're rolled up, etc. And um 145 00:43:19.680 --> 00:43:37.440 then we can say, "Hey, let's see Elizabeth Monday morning or give her a call or whatever." And we don't have to, again, I'm not bonded to collect money. That's why I asked the question, but I we can send people over there and say, you know, should be happy to take your money. 146 00:43:40.079 --> 00:44:00.160 say you I'm a good listener today. >> Yeah. The tough part is like once you go home I'm not gonna I got to go on Monday. >> Yeah. You want to sell it right then and now. >> Well again we >> Yeah, I know. >> I have somebody that I mean happy to collect it but I I'm not going to do 147 00:44:00.160 --> 00:44:16.720 >> No, I What day are you going to the couch? Friday. >> Uh Saturday. >> Saturday. Yeah, >> I'll go tag along for a little bit. >> Why don't we um what percentage of the population I would guess is going to participate in this program? 148 00:44:16.720 --> 00:44:32.160 >> I think we'd be lucky with one right now, right? >> Say this again, please. >> The question was, what percentage do we think the public is going to take advantage of this composting? >> Uh it depends on every community. Um there were a lot of people that were 149 00:44:32.160 --> 00:44:48.160 interested in it. Um, so it does have to be promoted and um I would probably say maybe 10%. I mean I've got communities who are like you're not selling 20 every year. I'll tell you that right now. You'll probably sell five a year, 150 00:44:48.160 --> 00:45:03.760 >> maybe a little bit more. And like I said, if you do, you know, offer them for raffle prizes or whatever like that, you know, so five to 10 a year with your population. >> If we're sharing them, we're going to sell 20. But um I I I I'm thinking an 151 00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:21.440 order of 30 bins and 50 buckets is a good number. >> Oh yeah, it's it's it's actually that it should last you, you know, at least three years. Yeah. >> You're going to be giving, you know, them back to um Fall River. So yeah, so it's definitely going to last you two or 152 00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:38.400 three years. >> Yeah. Well, here again, I think we need to not only talk about the compost, but you recall when we we briefed the board of select, board of health, um we said, okay, for instance, uh if every if half 153 00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:54.640 the households in town just threw the potato peels, the cucumber peels away 4 ounces a day, how much that would save us in terms of trash collection, etc., you know? So, I mean, we we need to flesh that out again. So, the other thing that we're not 154 00:45:54.640 --> 00:46:11.520 talking about, it's kind of the elephant in the room is right now Massachusetts is considering um increasing the bans on food waste in the trash because still it's about 20% of our trash load and 155 00:46:11.520 --> 00:46:27.599 we're looking very carefully at our capacity. So right now there's discussion that in 2027 28 that's not it's not defined yet but those are the kind of the goals that they're talking about of having removing the limits on 156 00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:44.079 commercial waste so that every business will have to be um diverting their food waste to a composter and schools all schools will have to be doing it as well. And one of the things that is kind of coming down the road and they're 157 00:46:44.079 --> 00:47:00.160 still playing around third getting their head around that is in 2030 something there that it would be require it would be banned from all municipal trash meaning that you would have to offer something to your residents. And again, 158 00:47:00.160 --> 00:47:15.680 you know, kind of playing around with this and what the model that we're kind of landing on that we like is having residents have a access to a drop off site. And on the Cape, they're doing it with their schools. Here in Shrewsbury, 159 00:47:15.680 --> 00:47:30.960 where I live, we have a drop off at our town hall police complex kind of thing. And a lot of towns have it at their drop off center. Todd, I can see him moving his head right there. Now, I can tell you it is not the horror show you think 160 00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:47.839 it is. It really is not bad. I can take you on tours to see what the drop off is. >> Taking food out of the trash. >> It's going It's a real thing and then you'll get into the audit that you and I already talked about. >> Yeah. >> Make sure it happens. 161 00:47:47.839 --> 00:48:04.800 >> Yeah. So, >> so I guess the only other question I have to the community. >> So, what one of the other reasons why I'm I'm mentioning this now is because we have a component part of our grant for transfer stations who do have like yours who has a drop off and they sell 162 00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:21.680 the bin. They actually get a twopoint um credit or for on their RDP grant. It's not huge, but you know, it's something that does add up. >> Yes, I have a question. um this this uh planned 163 00:48:21.680 --> 00:48:38.640 uh food waste reduction program. Is there anything in hard copy uh that you know any proposals or anything that you could >> I can I can send I can send the web the they're right now they're calling them working groups or studies on this and 164 00:48:38.640 --> 00:48:55.280 it's part of the bigger waste reduction plan called the 20 2030 master plan which is huge and written down. So they kind of update them. I can send you a slide presentation by um one of the one of the division chiefs what they've done for it and what they've looked at um 165 00:48:55.280 --> 00:49:12.240 with that slide. >> Yeah. >> But like I said, right now I'm just kind of talking to everyone, especially if you already have a drop off center to kind of dip your toes in it with a drop off site. And I can do tours um of of 166 00:49:12.240 --> 00:49:28.800 ones that are doing this successfully. Um at my meeting in person, there are a few who were not going to do this at all. I'm like, seriously, talk to this other one who just started it last year and after about 15 minutes, they're like, "Oh, that's not so bad. That's not what we thought." So, you know, talking to those other people about best 167 00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:44.240 practices and maintaining it. And the other thing is you guys have right in your backyard the potential best option for something like this um is you know with um yeah 168 00:49:44.240 --> 00:50:01.920 anyway with the Aggie school uh with with possibly anorobic digesttors and things like that. So I'll set >> who makes a purchase the board of health but the waste reduction committee has authority to spend money. 169 00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:22.880 >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I think we have recommended the health. I think right >> and they have control over >> the ultimate with us right now. 170 00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:39.920 >> So we need authorization purchase in the same way we're going to buy that. >> So how should a motion sound? We don't I don't think we need 50 buckets. May maybe uh 40. 171 00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:55.119 >> Well, if I got we got to give 12 back to Far River and 20 to Freetown, then there goes your >> There goes your pricing too for the dollar. >> No, was if we're the ones buying it, you're not going to lose the pricing. You're still going to gain. Oh, I well, 172 00:50:55.119 --> 00:51:11.920 but I thought the buckets for 50 to 100 were 795 as opposed to up to 0 to 40. 1 to 49 was 8.95, right? >> Yeah. I wouldn't go more than 30 and 50 at this time. 173 00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:32.640 >> Okay. >> Yeah. So is are we making recommendation to board of health or >> I think recommen 30 bins and 50 buckets. >> 30 bins and 50 buckets. >> Second motion made in second. Any 174 00:51:32.640 --> 00:51:47.520 further discussion? All in favor? >> I oppose. >> Making a recommendation the board of health. I don't vote. >> Yeah. 175 00:51:47.520 --> 00:52:10.400 Okay. Before we wrap up here, talk about the logistics of >> Okay. Okay. I mean, like last year you set up a table. I brought my own canopy with me and if we could get um either I 176 00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:26.640 can pick it up or whatever just have a bin out there so I can put the last year and then maybe one just rolled up to show see what it looks like. >> I know storm water is cable. Does water health need have a cable? >> No, I need one. 177 00:52:26.640 --> 00:52:42.640 >> I think we set up right next to storm water as a matter of fact. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Bought a health need one. >> Yes. So, we want to share with one with border health, >> I think. So, >> how much how much table space is the board of health? >> Not much. Okay, we can share. 178 00:52:42.640 --> 00:52:56.079 >> Yeah. >> All right, I'll do that right now. Okay. We got quite a few nonprofits. Quite a few already. >> From that shopping station, we're already past the bleaches going the other way on both sides. >> We just set up We had it out in front 179 00:52:56.079 --> 00:53:26.720 last year and a and a countertop couple of countertops, too. I am using it. >> Okay. See anything else for the meeting? What time does it start on start on Saturday? One. Okay. 180 00:53:26.720 --> 00:53:42.000 >> Saturday. >> It's actually Yeah, it's actually early. >> Yeah. >> So, it's that week. It's it's earlier. Um I don't think it's 11 though. I don't think it's as early as 11 though because that's the late test. I want to go way past 10 at night. 181 00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:59.200 >> Oh yeah. >> Okay. >> I just if we can get out there get set up. >> Yeah. 1:00. >> It's definitely by lunch time. >> Okay. I'll entertain a motion to resolve 182 00:53:59.200 --> 00:54:15.440 close whatever you want to say. >> Ajourn motion to adjurnn. >> Second any further discussion on favor. Any opposed? Okay, we're done. >> Okay. So I will send you information on the 183 00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:32.880 bag pricing from state contract and these slides from uh John Fischer about the organics um >> process going going forward. Thank you for the >> Thank you. >> Think about this.