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MEETING SECTIONS:

Part 1 (Video ID: njoz3d1jKaU):
- 00:00:32: Meeting Commences: Introductions, Curtain Issues, Attendance Check
- 00:07:01: Official Call to Order, Introductions, Stormwater Discussion
- 00:08:24: Motion to Reorder Agenda: New Business First
- 00:08:56: New Business: Stormwater Regulations and Committee History
- 00:28:35: Board Discussion: Separate Stormwater Committee Decision
- 00:41:38: Motion to Separate Stormwater, Permit Discussion Continues
- 00:42:32: Instructions Regarding Existing Stormwater Permit Process
- 00:42:49: Thank You to Stormwater Representatives, Move to Reports
- 00:43:21: Health Agent Report: Activities and Training Upcoming
- 00:44:10: New Office Manager Discussion, Board Recommendation Vote
- 00:46:01: Town Nurse Report, Farmers Market Success
- 00:47:05: Office Manager Report: Permits and Veterans Affairs
- 00:50:09: Farmers Market Permit Approvals and Old Business Discussion
- 00:51:25: Old Business: Bag Bid Update Tabled for Next Meeting
- 00:52:15: Farmers Market Success, Agenda Items Complete, Adjournment


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Hey, Tammy. Can you see me? >> Yeah, I got you. >> Okay. >> I wasn't able to print that um what you sent this morning because I'm out. So, Tom Ferry said he was going to jump on.

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>> Oh, perfect. Okay, awesome. Yeah, I just wrote everything out on a notepad. >> What a temperature difference, huh? From yesterday. >> I know. >> Like 64 and I think it was 94 yesterday.

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>> Such a drop. I know. Am I blurry or should I? >> No, you're okay. >> See, >> I have an overhead light on that I could turn off if I need to. >> No, you clear enough. >> Okay.

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It's chilly in here. Is it? >> Yeah. brought a coat. >> We're in the basement, so it's cold down here. >> Oh, I'm sure. >> Uh Rebecca can't make it. She sent in a

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>> I saw that. And then also >> I didn't get to read it, but at least we have it. >> Hey, Tom. >> Hello. Good afternoon.

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>> Good afternoon. >> Thank you for sending the guy over to put up the curtain. >> Is he done? >> Yeah, he's going to get something for the door. Is his feet up on the desk back there? And >> no, he already left. He wanted to get uh

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something else for the door cuz the curtain only covered the window. >> Yeah, the door moves. Yeah, I think we're going to tape something on it. It's either a display or just brown paper. >> Yeah, I said just get it like foggy. They have um

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like window spray you can put on Nancy was a maybe. I don't know who else you're expecting. >> Uh, we're waiting for Vinnie and Chris. I just let Nancy in, but I don't see her. I heard the bell, but I don't see

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I think it's just Nancy. >> Hi Nancy. >> I think she has herself muted. >> I'm gonna send Benny and >> Hi. Good afternoon. Just sent Vinnie a text and I'm going to

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reach out to Chris. He say he's jumping on now. Once we get one of them, we can start >> and maybe we can move things around so people have to wait for us to do all the other small things.

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>> Make a motion to >> Yeah, it's just >> out of order. >> It's It's a little more difficult when people are on Zoom for us to go through all this. It's one thing when you're in person, but I think it's a little more

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um difficult when it's on Zoom. Chris said he's logging on as well. So, we should have them in a minute. >> Tom, how you guys doing with the bulky? Been very light this year. >> Uh, well, you say that. Did you compare it to last year?

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Yeah, there's probably a hundred less items. >> Perfect. >> A total. >> That's a good thing. >> I think the education component of what we're trying to do is start to work. So, >> yeah,

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>> ideally they shouldn't really need to use it at all. They plan >> before they purchase something, they need to plan how they're getting rid of it. We can if we can emphasize that, everyone will be doing better.

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>> Yeah. Hey, Chris. Hey, Benny. Hey, guys. >> Hi, everybody. >> I I didn't forget about the meeting. I forgot about the time, though. Thought it was three. Sorry. >> Oh, that's all right. All right. We'll get started if everyone's okay with that. I'd like to call this meeting to order. Today is uh May 21st. It's 2

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o'clock. It's uh special hearing of the board of health. So, if we can start with pledge of allegiance and we'll go right into intros. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One

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nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> All right. If somebody wants to start off the intros for the board. Uh, >> I'm Christopher Isabore. I am one of the

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board members. Ah, sorry. Go ahead, Vinnie. >> Sorry. >> Go ahead. >> I'm Tammy Melo. I'm the chairperson. All right. So, since we have Nancy and

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Tom, I thought maybe we could switch things around on the on our calendar um just to make it easier so they don't have to sit here and listen to um some of the minor stuff that we'll be going over like reports. So, if I can get a motion just to move things around. I

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thought we'd start with new business uh stormwater regulations um from the committee and then we can um move things back if that's okay with everyone. >> I'd make a motion. >> Yeah, I'd make that motion to move uh to

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item 6A, new business on storm water regulations. And >> can I get a second? >> I second a motion. Okay. vote. >> I motion passes. All right, let's start with new business storm water regulation

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uh committee. Thank you to Tom and thank you to Nancy for being here and I'm sorry I had to be by Zoom today. U we just got a little mixed up. Um but at least we were all able to get together on Zoom. So if you want to if somebody wants to

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jump on and just let us uh know a little bit about what we're working on. >> Okay. I forwarded the um report the draft changes in bylaw and stormwater

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regulations that have been prepared by Jere Schwarz. I'm just going to back up a little bit. Um when ARPA funding became available during COVID, uh Stormwater applied for a grant

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to update the storm water bylaw and regulations. We got the grant. It's 35, excuse me, $45,000. So, in addition to the update, which is the the material that I emailed to you,

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um there was also testing and inspections done by Weston and Samson. So, we thought we had until the end of the calendar year to wrap up this review. However, the county commissioners

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advised the towns that uh any money not expended by September the 1st is to be sent back. So, we've got money left in the account for the work that uh Jesice has been doing. So, that's why again I

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asked various boards u all the town boards to take a look at what revisions she proposed and to get back with any feedback. Um so what we need to know is I think first I think we have to look at the

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structure the connection between the stormwater committee and the board of health. The storm water committee was created in 2018 at the request of the board of health. Originally selectman and board

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of health were the same three people. The town voted to have a separate appointed board of health. Well, what came before the board of health? Obviously, I was a selectman had been

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board of health. that created a new board of health. But some of the things we were dealing with that concerned storm water were a lot of angry residents who after storm water bylaw and regs were accepted initially I think it was 2007 and they were amended in

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either 2008 or n the planning board and zoning board and conservation commission had certain uh let's say duties they were supposed to perform relative to storm water. There were not inspections. There were not by site visits. As a result, in

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2018, the board of health was being contacted by residents all upset with I got water in my basement. There's water running onto my property. The drainage is this and this is on and on. So, the board of health asked that the

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storm water committee be established and appointed uh a seven member board who would serve and that everything related to storm water would be handled by the storm water committee because the board

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of health when it was on when the board of health was actually the board of select and board of health the stormwater responsibilities fell to me. I'm the one who wrote the bylaw and the guidelines.

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So when they were split, it was decided that because of the request, there would be a subcommittee of the board of health set up called the storm water committee. And since that time, um storm water committee has handled everything

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relative to storm water, whatever the project was. And at that time they made the health agent also the stormwater agent. Um so he had spent most of his time being the health agent but the balance of the

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time was storm water and also the um the person in the office that managed the board of health office also provided uh assistance to the dorm water committee in the form of attending the meeting

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excuse me and taking the minutes. So as we know she left and shortly thereafter the stormwater agent left. Um the stormwater agent was not replaced. So

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>> we still had to do inspections and site visits and deal with everything storm water. So what happened in the meantime was the selectman called a meeting of department heads and committees and boards. The

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people who in town uh employment or connection to the town require engineering services. Obviously Tom Ferry is one of those people. Um, so we all met and there was an RFP sent out by

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Mike Mullen to get engineering services. So we got a number of responses. We got it down to six. The group of people that were involved with this uh went through and said, "Get it down to three." So we got it down to

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three potential engineering firms who would be interviewed. And um of the three it was a unanimous decision to hire Weston and Samson. So whatever engineering services are required by anybody

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uh have to go through uh the carrier is like the contact person for Weston and Samson. uh if there is a request to use a certain engineering firm other than Weston and Samson uh that's not an automatic thing that

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has to be decided based on uh what it the request is concerning and whether or not Weston and Samson can provide it. We did have one engineering firm that had an ongoing project. So they were allowed to finish it. But since that point in

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time, Weston and Samson has been the uh engineer selected by the town. So when we got this grant to review and revise the storm water bylaw and regs, we contacted Weston and Samson and

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Jerice Schwartz is the person who was assigned the task and uh has been the company has been paid through the grant. She is also the person that uh set up the testing and inspections and things

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like that that they did uh last spring. um for the outflows, looked at the mapping for the um system in the in the north end of town. Uh and that's where we are. So she has been working on this and that's what this

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multi-page I think it's like 33 pages, 34 pages. That's what this is. So, what we need to know because of this September 1st deadline and we don't want to lose the money and we've got to complete the work is if the board of

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health wants to review those and make recommendations or review them and say they look okay to us or say it's time for the storm water committee to be separated from the board of health which is the position that I hold separated

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from the board of set it up as an standalone committee under the control or appointment by the board of selectment which is exactly what the conservation commission is and the difference between what conservation does and what storm water

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does is conservation is responsible for enforcing the clean the um wetlands protection act. Storm water is responsible for enforcing the clean water act. So that covers everything from uh rainwater to uh septic waste, uh

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sewer water, if you will, clean water, construction, everything you can think of. So that's what we need to know. Um everything worked while we had a storm water agent and everything. He he coordinated everything. He handled

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inspections. Um he worked with conservation and it all worked. We don't have a storm water agent. Uh he was a PE, although he was not hired as the town's, if you will, PE uh and was not paid as a PE,

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but um while he was here, he kept everything flowing smoothly between uh the board of health, the storm water committee, we all worked with conservation, uh planning when necessary, so forth and so on. So because he wasn't replaced, we

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do not have, if you will, emergency inspection services available. So, if there is a uh we had a um I'll call it a storm water malfunction at a large solar farm and it was during a very heavy rain

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and it caused the burm around the solar farm to burst in a place and flow over silted runoff the whole mess uh across the road down the street into a a stream. Uh so we had a major pollution

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problem and uh Western and Samson did send somebody out but normally they don't do any work without a written proposal that's funded by the company who's going to we're going to be looking at a solar farm or a developer. So

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this is where we are. Um the storm water work um I can't tell you it's ever going to diminish. I think if anything, it's going to continue to grow. We don't have any soul farms on the horizon right now

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that I'm aware of. We have some housing developments out there uh that will require oversight by storm water. Um, but in looking at when we had a stormwater agent, the only direct work

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that involved the board of health was a member of the elected board of health was on the storm water committee and your the board would decide who that was going to be. the board of health actually issues takes the application for a storm water

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permit and actually issues the permit and uh so Elizabeth takes the application and the payment and fills out the uh storm water permit which we recently revised when we had the three homes on

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Horton Street requiring uh storm water permits and then your board looks at it and so far approves the permits and this thing just continues. Um the uh board of

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health has not gotten involved with uh problems we've had with solar farms. Um we've had we had one of them first week they they started work we uh we storm water and conservation with our storm water agent did a site visit and shut

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them down immediately. stop work immediately because although everything had been agreed to, the crew they brought in to clear the land to build the solar farm had not been trained in what all the

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flags meant, the wetlands protection, the flags, the no touch zones, the 50-foot delineation, vernal pools, and they started clearing land and immediately violated all of those things. So that's why they got shut

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down. Um so action that the board of excuse me action that the storm water committee has had to take uh for enforcement the board of health itself has not had to be involved in that. So and then the other thing that

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that uh the board of health has had to get involved in is when developers ask for waiverss. There's a regulation that goes back to before I was a selectman that says all drainage has to go underground. That was something the board of

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selectmen instituted as a board of health because they didn't want standing water because of mosquitoes and and the diseases that they bring. Well, when we wrote the stormwater regs in 2007, I believe it was um the board of

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selectment had changed and we told them based on the work that the engineers from Western and Samson had provided us with and also the dealing directly with the EPA. You don't want water, storm water or

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anything disposed of underground because we have to we have to check it and if it looks like it's polluted, we have to test it. And if you put everything in the ground, there is no way for us to determine what are they putting into the ground. Uh is it even clean? So anyhow,

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that's why periodically it will come before the board of health to grant a waiver of that particular rule. And that's one of the things that I talked to the planning board about. And that's a proposal that the town will have once

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we get this storm water rules and regs to a point where we can have a public hearing on the bylaw because that has to be voted on at town meeting and a public meeting to go over the

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regs. the regs do not need voter approval and and periodically can be changed and you don't need a town meeting to do it. So, in looking at the the I'll call it the limited exposure that the board of

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health now has involvement with the storm water committee, it makes sense to me that it's time to separate and determine exactly what well, as I said, there's going to be a proposal to change that

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section of the bylaw about having to go underground. we can put that in the in the new proposal from the town level. The uh um the work that has to be done for that is can be done locally. We're

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not going to be ready. Obviously, we had hoped to go to town meeting in June. That isn't going to happen. um with a September date to spend the money, we can might be able to have something ready for approval at town meeting in

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the fall, but I'm not even sure of that. But the main thing is um we just have to know what the feeling is of the board of health. Uh if we're going to continue have to have the stormwater committee as a subcommittee

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of the board of health then we definitely need board of health input on those proposed changes that she has put together. So that was the reason why we asked to have you know discuss this with you and the reason why I sent it out.

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>> Okay great Tom did you want to add anything to that? Not at this time. >> Okay. >> The reporting and whatnot. Nancy and I Nancy does the actual annual reporting. I do the leg work for the tunnings and whatnot. Elizabeth also helps with that

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also currently. >> Okay. >> The report Tom's talking about is the MS4. >> Okay. >> And we have to file this annually uh with the EPA. Stormwater Committee does not report to mass DP in

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Massachusetts and New Hampshire. The Environmental Protection Agency has primacy and uh we have a very good relationship with the EPA. They were very very

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uh cooperative after they fined the town in 2006. Dton and Rehobath both got fined $3,000 each because they did not have a storm water bylaw regs uh testing program. And the

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reports that were being submitted by the engineering firm that the town had hired just kept saying, "We have no time, no staff, and no money to do all this stuff." Well, you can only do that a few times before the EPA is going to

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nail you. So both D and Rehobath got uh fined and when I got elected to the board in 2007, the fine had been issued in 2006. So that's why I got involved with trying to come up with something to prevent us from being fined again

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because the fines they just keep doubling one on top the other. And uh so anyhow um whatever we do the bylaw the regs and all of that uh they'll once approved at

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town meeting they would be submitted to EPA again so they know that uh we have updated our rules and regs and we are current as far as we know. Um so uh there is a section of the current

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bylaw regs that we adopted the mass DP regs well mass D not update the regs so we technically the town of Dyton is in violation along with 50% of the

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communities in the state who all relied on the state D mass D regulations because D hasn't updated them. So, because we um are in violation, I contacted the EPA

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and said, "We have an engineer working on revising all of this, which will take care of the sections of our regulations where we are not in compliance. So in effect uh we bought some time and knock

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on wood have not been fined because the EPA knows that we are working on this and we are going to be in compliance and um we're doing it through an OPA grant. So that's some of the background of what what we deal with as a storm water

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committee. >> Okay, great. Well, Nancy, thank you so much for all you do and for all this information. Um, I'm going to open it up to um to Vinnie and Chris to ask any questions and uh see which direction we're going

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in here. It's a lot of information. Um, so what what do you think Vinnie and Chris? >> Uh, well I I think NY's points are are well taken. Um, and when you think about it is what she said is true. was like,

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"How much do we really have to do with storm water?" >> Right. >> Right. So, to me, you know, my my first take on it is uh break them off as their own as

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their own board. Um and let them do their thing. You know, we don't you know, we don't know all of those regulations like like Nancy and u Tom do. um you know we can read them we can review them but I don't think we can

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really make a comment on those things you know is that right as far as a state level is concerned is it wrong uh without doing research so why not just leave it to uh the people who like Nancy and and and Tom they're the experts

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>> let let them have their own board let them do their own thing and report to the selecting >> absolutely uh Chris do you have anything to add. >> Yeah, I'll just say Nancy very um impressive way of sharing all the historical data.

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You clearly have will good knowledge about storm water. Um I I second everything that Vinnie said. I think it's reasonable um to have them as a separate entity. Um just speaking on behalf of myself, I don't have a lot of

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knowledge of it. Um, yes. I I think I'm on page 15 of the paper you sent was 34 pages long. Um, and you did a great job even analyzing all of it. Um, I think it's reasonable to have folks who do this on a regular basis

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>> handle it as opposed to, you know, yes, maybe it's reasonable for us to review it or not, but I think I agree with everything Vinnie said. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. I would just second to what what um Chris said, Nancy. Great uh

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presentation, great overall view. Um I don't see any reason for us to uh to to step in and oversee the the storm water committee. >> Absolutely. We don't want to hold them back. Now, Nancy, my question for you is

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by you separating, is that going to cause any delay or is that going to cause any problems for you for the September 1st deadline? Um, >> anything that we do to make it an easier transition? I mean, we're here for whatever you need.

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>> Okay. As far as being getting everything done under the OPA grant, um, and I talked to planning because I said to them, you guys got to look at this and tell me what you think.

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We can't we storm water can't put this all together have a public hearing on one the bylaw and have a hearing on regs and have any board in town get up and say no wait a minute we don't agree with

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this and certainly I don't want to go to town meeting to propose approval of the amended bylaw and have a board of committee get up and say we don't agree with any of this because number one it's a big problem for all the work that's done. But number two,

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as I said, we bought time with the EPA. The person who used to be, I'll call him our local contact, went from permitting, he was the he was the main permit writer for the EPA.

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And uh that Boston office actually covers all of New England and New York. and Tom and I actually met the woman who was the the in charge of that whole storm water program and she has been very very helpful.

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>> That person who was our permit writer and our kind of local contact got promoted to the enforcement division and that's the division that sends out the letters fining people. So, uh when he said to

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me, "Oh, you're no, you're in violation. you're one of the 50% who relied on mass D and they never updated and you are on the hook because you relied on them. So that's when I said to him, we have a

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grant. We're going to have the revisions made. We're going to come into PL compliance. It's going to take time, but uh please consider the fact that Dyon is actively working to resolve this and we have

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hired a professional engineering firm to do this work. This isn't just something that we're trying to patch together here in town. Um these are professional people. uh very wellrespected Weston and Samson as an engineering firm has a very

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good working relationship to this town because when I was on the board of health, the engineering firm who kept submitting those storm water reports that ended up with the town getting fined was also responsible for testing the landfill in

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North Don. And um when I looked at the contract, it went every year it went up by $2,000. It was in the ballpark of going to $33,000. >> Wow. >> And when I looked at it, read the fine

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print, there was a clause that said basically and if our uh employees make an error on the testing data, we're not responsible. And I said to the other selector, there's no way I would sign this contract. Nobody read it. You don't

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sign a contract with professionals that says if we screw up, we're not responsible. No, no. So, as a result of that, >> um, we informed them, you're not doing our testing anymore, more at the landfill. And I got in touch with Weston and

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Samson and said to them, hey, we got a major problem. We haven't done our fall testing. We need somebody to do the testing. I have written to the mass D and said, um, we don't have that engineering firm.

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We're actively seeking an engineering firm. We haven't done our fall testing, but our results have been very good so far, and we're not stalling. So, don't you find us because we haven't done that. So, um, Western and Samson provided all

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sorts of engineering assistance when I was writing the Stormwar and rigs. So, I went back to them. We didn't pay for that, by the way. between Western stamps and the EPA. I got all the engineering and advice and

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go to this site information for nothing. >> Wow. >> Only because I served on a mass municipal committee for like 18 years with the vice president from Weston and Samson. So I went to him and said, "We got a problem.

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Our landfill has not been tested. We're I says, "No way we're going to use that same firm again." Um, our data has been good, which means there was no proof, no evidence of leaks beyond the the outside ring of wells. So, he just gave me a card says, "Call

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this guy." So, I called this guy at Western and Samson and said to them, "I need a proposal for storm water, excuse me, for testing our landfill and I need it ASAP." So, anyhow, they looked into it. They were uh they battled with the former

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engineering firm who did not want to release the test results that belonged to us as a town, but they got them. They quoted a price of uh $10,000 to do the testing. Now, remember the pro proposal that was before the board, a selectman

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that I refused was going to be $33,000. So, anyhow, Western and Samson said, "Uh, yeah, your results are good. We can we can do this. we'll get in touch with D and we'll do it for 10,000. Okay. So the selectman said do it. Selectment

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board of health. So we didn't get fined by D. The data got submitted. Everything was good and they actually got us on a reduced testing schedule because when you're outside wells test clean. You

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don't have to test as often. It's only if you find contaminants that you have to really watch and do testing. So we said to them, give us a proposal for the next entire year of testing.

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And they did. And their total for one whole year of testing came in at just over $17,000. Again, opposed to a quote of 33,000 with somebody who had been doing work for the town for several years. So anyhow,

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um Weston and Samson has had an excellent relationship with this town um even before um we hired them if you will as the town engineers. Um Tommy, is Western and

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Samson still doing the testing? >> Do you know? >> No, they are not. uh that's been procured by different town administrators and separated with the annual uh transfer station inspection also. Right now, Green Seal has them.

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>> Okay. I know we've gone back and forth um with um that whole thing, but uh so getting back to number one, I'm very happy that it's it's you have expressed unanimous opinions that Yeah, it's time

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to separate. >> Yeah. make one of you make a motion. So we >> Yeah. Before you do that, um yes, as Elizabeth says, you're going to have to make a motion to uh notify the board of selectmen that uh in the

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best interests of the town and the board of health, you feel that the stormwater committee should be uh removed as a subcommittee of the board of health and set up as an independent committee under the jurisdiction of the board of

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selectmen. And because the original request came from the board of health in writing, you after you do what you have to do votewise, then you should send them written notification. And with uh the

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new fiscal year starting very shortly, uh it would be an ideal time to, if you will, make this change. Um for the time being, it's not going to affect anything you do. We have a separate budget not connected to you because there's no

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combination storm water agent, health agent or anything like that. For the time being, we will continue to ask uh Elizabeth to handle the applications and the actual storm water permits until we get this bylaw thing all straightened

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out. And um Oh, just Elizabeth, did Mr. Rodri come to see you yesterday about a stormwater permit for heart's memory? >> No. >> Okay. Well, he was at the storm water meeting yesterday and we told him he needs a storm water permit and he said

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he asked a few questions. Said, "Okay." And I said, "Okay, so you need to go down and see Elizabeth and ask for an application for storm water permit and just tell her the fee is $250 for that's what we said it was." So, she'd know uh what the fee is uh for that. So, he's

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probably going to show up sometime. But anyhow, uh I think because we we have really not had any close we were working relationship since we don't have a storm water agent. Um it's going to relieve

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your board of something that you're not really involved in. When we do those bylaws and put that all together, um, as I already told you, the requirement for the above ground underground

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disposal of water, that's going to get changed and you won't have to wave that because we'll have it in the bylaw. When the bylaw gets accepted, that'll just go away. And as far as the permitting goes, once we get this all uh approved,

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permitting can go to the storm water committee and that can be handled there. So there can be a clean break made. Um but the main thing is right now we're faced with that deadline and what your uh in your agreement with what we've

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talked about is the perfect way to go. >> Perfect. Okay. Can I get a motion? to make the separation. >> I' I'd make a motion to um separate the storm water committee from the board of health and submit that request in

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writing to the board of selectment. >> I second. >> Okay. Can I get a vote? >> I motion passes. Nancy, you're all set. Thank you so very much. And please let us know if there's anything else that we can do. Um just ask there. So, um, in

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the meantime, uh, any storm water permits and other than the one for, uh, pot's memory on the that Tony Rodri is building and anyone who needs a storm water permit, we will instruct them to uh, see

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Elizabeth, fill out the application, pay the fee, and that'll still go through you. You'll have for your you to vote to approve these things. Um, but I don't see a lot of those coming along right now. I only know of this one. So, >> do that much.

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>> Thank you to uh Nancy and Tom. >> Nancy and Tom. >> And like I said, the door is always open. If you need anything, just come see us. >> Okay. When when we get down to um a document that we can take to a town meeting, obviously, it'll be

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disseminated to everybody and um so you'll see that anyhow. Okay. Sounds great. >> Sounds good. Thank you so much. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. >> Okay. Yeah. Byebye. >> All right. So, for the rest of the board, we're going to move back to um

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the beginning. We're going to head over to the reports and we'll start with the report from the health agent. >> Liz, a quick >> That's what I'm trying to do. How do I >> We haven't had um it hasn't been too busy. So, I mean,

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there's a few perk tests that were done. Um, I don't have my Essie, so Jerry took care of those. Uh, we do have a couple installations going, so we I've been doing open holes and stuff like that. Um, looking forward to office manager

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coming over because I have um a housing course coming up that I'd like to jump in on. So >> thankfully there'll be some relief and I can start moving forward with training.

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>> Okay. Um actually I forgot in new business we I jumped over something. So this would probably be a good time um to talk about the office manager uh interview that we had last week. Um so we did come up with a selection. Um, the

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people who sat on the board were Karen, Ralph, myself, and Liz. Um, and we chose Ashley, as you know, from the uh from the Facebook uh post. Um, so we just need to send a letter over to uh the

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board of selectmen as a recommendation. So, if we can get that done, that would be great. Um, so I believe do we have to vote on that? Um, yeah, usually you make a motion on it.

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>> Yeah. So, can I get a quick motion from someone just to um make the recommendation of hiring Ashley as our office manager? >> Um, I make a motion to hire Ashley um as the office manager

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uh to the board of select men. She actually is our recommendations uh from the board of health. Sorry, I think I screwed that up. My apologies. >> I know what you meant. I I I second whatever whatever he said I second. >> Okay. Can I

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>> I >> I >> Okay, motion passes. We now have Ashley. So, yes, Liz, we're going to be up to full compliment. So, I think things are Oh my god, things are looking great. Things are looking awesome. Um we have a

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full staff. >> Um we actually have a full board. things and moving ahead and it's only gonna get better from here and like how much better can it get? It's already great. >> Yes. No, I definitely am looking for the relief. >> Yes.

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>> I can focus on one thing and >> absolutely because I know you've been overworked and underpaid. So, the town nurse could not be here today, so she did write something up uh in an email. Uh Liz and I did get to work with her uh on Sunday at the

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farmers market. And that's another thing I'm so super excited about, but I won't mention anything yet until we get to that point. But she was wonderful to work with. >> U I I could not believe the amount of people that came to her for um to have

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blood pressure checks and the amount of young people, even young people were coming over to her. And I was >> amazing. >> Me, I only thought it was older people that wanted their blood pressure checked, but it was it was young people. It was all

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So many people came to our table um to get that done. So it was it was really cool to see. >> Amazing. >> Yeah, I'm glad people took advantage of that because normally they would just avoid us, but people were interested in it. So it was good for us to have a table at the farmers market. So

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>> I thought it was great. Um so Liz, do you want to uh say anything as office manager as you're kind of moving away from >> um we've had a lot of permits coming in. So, you know, with the farmers market permits and um we had one perk

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application come in. I had two well permits come in. Um so, there's there's a lot of permits coming in. So, it's going to be nice to get Ashley here and um >> working on these. I know she's going to be um spread between the building

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department and the health department. So, I'm sure at first it's going to be a little, >> you know, overwhelming for her. So, I think, you know, baby steps. I'll help her as much as I can. >> I don't want her to be, you know,

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>> just overworked and, you know, frazzled. >> So, I think, you know, I can help her >> along the way. And then as she's she's awesome. She picks up on stuff really fast. I show how to do something once and that was it. Um, never had to repeat

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myself. uh she's really quick, gets stuff done. So, I I don't see I think she's going to be able to handle it, but it will be a lot of work for um the two departments. Hopefully, they get the veterans agent um office manager

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separated from her because three departments is just way too much. Um >> I can't see one person doing it. >> I think once she gets rolling, things are going to get much easier. So maybe a little >> well the I wouldn't want the veterans to you know

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>> be um it's going to hurt them if there's not you know a specific person dedicated to that department. They're going to feel it. You know we have veterans coming in and >> if they have someone to talk to

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>> it's you know better than not having well nobody's here we'll get back to you. You know what I mean? So, I think the veterans should separate themselves. Um, that's in the works. >> See what happens with that. Um, you know, once we get there,

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>> different we get to it. Yeah. You know, I don't want to I don't want to get nervous about something that we don't have to be nervous. >> We'll deal with that once we get to it. Um, we did have some permanent proposals. I apologize. I do not have

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um the permit applicants names because I'm not home. So I don't help me out with that, Liz. Maybe >> Yeah, I didn't put them on the agenda. Um like you can tell we have a meeting on Thursday instead of Tuesday. I had so

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much going on with the >> Yeah, which is okay. Totally okay. >> With the farmers market, I completely forgot about it. So let me open up my file of permits. can tell you exactly who came through. >> Um I don't remember if I have a plan on my truck.

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>> Sorry, Jerry just walked in. >> Oh, that's okay. All right. So, we have >> Waggleby, Off the Hook, Creation, Under the Sun, >> Art of the Gem, >> Song Bird, Floral Design, Books and

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Grew, Creations by Cassidy, >> Mobile Food Truck. We got PJ's Fine Foods. >> You're welcome. Um, I believe Kona Ice was already done at a different time. Those are the ones that came in.

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>> Okay. >> If I can get a motion to approve those permits. >> Make a motion to approve the permits uh mentioned the name of all the entities mentioned by Liz. >> Sounds great. And a second. Second.

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>> Awesome. And a vote. >> I Motion passes. All permits approved. Okay. So, going back to old business um bag bids. It sounds like this is probably going to still need some uh need some work because I don't think

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>> I emailed them again today. Um I'm not getting any response from the two vendors. So, I reached out to Mansfield Paper Supply and then one other one and I I'm going to reach out to the the lady

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from D, see if she has any more um vendors I can reach out to. >> Perfect. All right. So, why don't we table that for our next meeting? >> If I can get a motion to table. >> We'll definitely have to do it in June because I think they want to start that bag price increase for the next fiscal

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year. So, I'll I'll get on it. >> Do a special meeting. We'll do a special meeting just to get >> um >> work >> if I can get that. Sorry, Chris. >> No worries. I make a motion. I'm trying to get better at this by doing it more often. How's that? >> Great.

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>> I make a motion to table the PAT bag bids until the next meeting. >> I second. >> Awesome. And vote I >> I. Motion passes. That's tabled. Uh farmers market update. Um, the only word

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to describe Sunday would be amazing. >> It was just such a great event. Um, >> turn out was good. >> It was just I mean, we probably had Well, we definitely had over 100 people.

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>> Yeah, true. >> Great. >> The amount of people and the positivity and the great remarks that we got from folks and even all the vendors. I was going to say the vendors, it was >> vendor at the end of the day to see how

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they did and they all did phenomenal. >> Good. That's all that's amazing. >> Just a great event. So June is going to be even bigger and I believe Liz, correct me if I'm wrong, we had like 14 vendors for the first time. >> Yep. And I got a few more applications that came in. So we'll have

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>> Yeah. So we're going to have even more um more vendors for our next uh farmers market. So >> amazing. >> Well attended. It was amazing and it's only going to get bigger and better. >> Yep. >> Great. >> Yeah. Super exciting. Um, all right.

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Moving on. Items not reasonably anticipated. I don't have anything. I don't know if anybody else does. >> Nope. >> I don't. Nope. >> It doesn't look like uh Oh, I skipped animal control. It doesn't look like Stacy's here. Uh, but moving back down to public input. It doesn't look like we

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have anybody else on the Zoom call for public input. Our next meeting is going to be June the 16th. The only thing, Liz, I didn't see on here. Are we voting on uh minutes? >> No, I didn't do any. >> Okay, that's okay. >> All right. So, I think that's I think

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that's it. Um, >> does anybody have anything else? >> No. All right. So, next big uh thing is I need a motion for adjournment. >> I make a motion to adjurnn the meeting.

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I have a second. >> Awesome. And a vote. I >> motion passes. That's our meeting. It was a big one today. Um >> that was a big one. A lot >> and I again appreciate uh all the work

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that Nancy does. Uh Tom, uh that was a whole lot of information and it was >> it only Yeah, it only makes sense to >> Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we don't want to hold anybody back. um right and I think being their own entity is is the

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perfect idea, perfect solution. >> Um so, uh moving forward and we'll just give them whatever support they need until that that happens. So, all right guys, well, thank you so much everyone and I hope you all have a good day. >> Thank you. Bye.

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>> Bye.