can you email me the link such as [Music] how we do this use the ropes and i look at the screen thank you hello hi there how are you good we haven't started yet so just hang tight
for just a minute or so i will hang tight as long as necessary i'm here so there he says it on [Music] let him have an think we can get started hey vinnie hi
all right i just wanted to wait till you got here so we can call the meeting to or uh to order okay all right i'd like to call the meeting to order it's april 15th it's um exactly 4:02 p.m this is also a remote participation zoom meeting
it's a public meeting being recorded for cable broadcasts and internet posting on youtube all right we're going to say the pledge of allegiance pledge algiance to the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god
indivisible liberty justice for all i'm tammy melo and i am the acting chairman of the board in the absence of barbara kavia vinnie i am uh vinnie hert uh board member um dyon board of
health all right could you hear me we can hear you okay thank you all right reports announcements um we're going to right now skip the health agent because he's currently in a
meeting so we're going to go to b the office manager and hopefully by that point we can go back um and matt will be uh ready for a report so liz so i was uh hoping to get a update from stacy on the rabies vaccine how successful it was
this year i know we opened it up to other towns but she's on vacation so i didn't want to disturb her um i wanted to remind residents bulky item week is coming up may 12th through the 16th i get tickets here at the board of health
office um and the town trash bag vendor balances i put an updated amount in our spreadsheet and it's quite large so um with your blessing i'd like to start calling
vendors to tell them what their unpaid balances are and try to recoup some of this money this looks like a pretty substantial list typically vendors will get a box and pay for it the next time
they the next order so if it's taking them longer to sell it obviously it's going to take longer for us to get the payment and with this last um rush of bag sales that we did i feel like people aren't buying as many bags right now because they stocked up okay
so it might be a reason why they're not we're not getting as many orders from vendors um but there's still some invoices that are going back to january so it's getting pretty
aged okay mhm especially hanniffords yeah what was do we remember hurts it's it's a vicious cycle we they get bottled up and then we go after them for weeks on end they catch up and then it happens
again and they stop paying we go after them so it's it's a recurring event so i'll start opening up some tickets because there's really nobody we can call it in hannah's it's not the fun
store around here i think that's probably get on that yeah liz you you said hanniffords is the worst offender right pretty much still from what i can see from the uh spreadsheet um yeah we have the town county here too so i'm assuming
she's going to want this money before the fiscal year end so that's only going to give me 8 to 10 weeks to try to get this money in the question sure are those i see that um the agreements one of the things are
those people signed they're not within agree so is it an agreement like something new you guys are putting on things there is an old agreement update update for version so does the old agreement that they that those vendors had signed have payment contingencies
no okay but the new one does so that's yeah the vinnie looked at it since our last meeting so it's on the agenda so if everything looks good i think the selectment have to look at it because i don't think the board of
health is the authority to um yes have to go to it has to select menu for them to approve so that was it for um office manager
okay so sorry go ahead vinnie no i was going to say one other thing that what i mean what is our recourse to go after hanniffords for these back amounts that they owe us i mean we're going back to like 2022 uh june of
2024 do do we we get our attorney on them um you know the town attorney what can we do to recoup that money um we would have something we should maybe run by ralph well what does the
old policy say the old agreement i don't think it had a deadline of when they had to i can get it to yeah so we'd have to look at what that old agreement is because that would be what we're restricted by yeah yeah something's falling through
the cracks here we we should probably investigate this a little bit further i mean that's a quite a bit of money um but but they're up to date like right now so this is not making any sense um look i don't know maybe we table this
and we'll look into this further definitely especially considering that there's a 2022 that's still open here and how something is out so and i know that you told us the last time that they said they sent it there's got to be
prior to my coming on the board of health there wasn't um invoice numbers allocated to any of these invoices so the previous office manager would just take the check and put it
towards the oldest balance and in the corporate world it doesn't work that way it's checks and balances that check was supposed to go to this invoice and that check was supposed this invoice so it was very cumbersome to go back and try
to figure out which ones were mis misp like misplaced on the payment um so we were going back and forth i got most of them squared away but that's the one that we're stuck on that i haven't got a response from them there's an open ticket is what i have to
do within the portal at hanniffords um so they're still reviewing my open ticket but they they're pretty they're pretty backed up some of these are more recent like there's one that is going out friday so that one really
technically is in a balance yet but everything before that is um i think it was a 30-day grace period on the new contracts had to be paid within 30
days but yeah the new one i'm looking at it right now item four says uh consigning may not request a new order if payment is pending that is exceeding um 30 days we might want to put i don't know if you had that in
there liz where we say you you know you have 30 days to pay this invoice upon receipt something like that i would i would add that in there yeah you can just um make the edits in
like red and then i'll change it yeah i'll do that yeah the problem with the hanniffords is that's where 90% of our residents get their bags [Music] and it would really it would really
inconvenience residents if we stopped selling them there agreed so we're just going to have to get to the bottom of all this it might create a little bit of work but yeah it's going to have to be done yeah i mean it that that would be it is like
we go back we pull the invoices there's got to be somebody at hand we say "hey this is two years past due." yeah we have to call rep and she's she she's pretty like she responds pretty quickly but um it's
the whole process they go through and then me reallocating those funds to whatever they were supposed to be allocated to and then finding out where the check that that one now went you know what i mean so um but for the most part we got them caught up they're just slacking on
sending payments i'm getting one a month if i'm lucky which before i was getting one a week so that's a little bit issue yeah definitely an issue all right so why don't we
um table this we'll make that correction and um you can open those tickets i'll reach out to the vendors i'll get updates on you know payments and then the vendor
agreement will table until vinnie gets back to us on any changes in wording okay okay can i get a motion to um to table the the new contract or the new agreement
motion to table uh a new contract agreement for trash bags okay i step down and i second that motion can i get a vote i i motion passes right moving on to the town nurse
status we haven't had any recent activity on any applicant so i didn't know if the board wanted to um it cost money last time we did it but we put it on um the massachusetts
website uh i think it's mma mhm okay mma i want to say it was $75 to post so it only went up for 30 days and it came down i don't know if you want to repost it the regional nurse i mean she's available
but she's not weekly she's probably how are we doing how are we doing with the current uh with the current situation with the nurse the one that's on call the regional one
she's here like every other week but she's got her hands full and it's still a job that's in the making so you know she's trying to get a schedule of what day she's in what town and um i know they are doing an event come next
may come in may at the lincoln village so she's going to be there for that um but it's not like if we had our own nurse i don't know tammy what what do you think should we repost i'd say repost but i'm a little hesitant
on spending any money um i know it's only $75 but because we're we really need to be really diligent about what we spend i just don't want to spend it $75 for a 30-day uh post job i i just think that that
might be a little too much i can have um leanne maybe share on facebook i was just going to ask maybe we can put that on facebook share that way and maybe there's some other i don't know if there's other facebook pages
um out there you know for nursing local nursing or maybe even talking to some of the the colleges in the area if they have you know new student nurses that might be um an
option like uh ccri in in um rhode island they may have some recent graduates or they may have some type of mailing system or you know email system where they post you know new jobs for someone all right yeah i'm just
giving that a thought um like i said i'm just i'm very hesitant to spend any money that's really not necessary okay right now we'll go with that okay um so can i get a motion um
to maybe post that uh position on facebook talk to some local colleges with nursing programs and such i i make a motion to post nursing position on facebook and look at uh local colleges as such
okay i step down i second that motion and can i get a vote i i motion passes all right so we're at 2651 pleasant street update um unfortunately matt's not here so we're going to have
to put that one on hold for just a few minutes until matt can join us oh i see matt matt's online i believe hey matt i don't have any real update i've stopped by that area twice and i've had no orders or anything detected so um
but now it's getting warmer that may change so keep up on it but i don't have anything new i guess at this point okay yeah i i can say that i i did look into it
um it's just like matt said uh you know i looked at at some of the information on the state uh uh website and um there's really nothing that we can do
uh at this point uh you know the only thing that i could think of matt would be if we could just try and i should talk with um with tammy about this as well is is to just try to convince them
to try that drain just try it i mean if it smells for the neighbors it certainly smells for them so i don't know why there would be a hesitancy to uh you know or or a flatout no not to
even just try that and see if that alleviates some of the some of the issue um you know that that to me that just doesn't make any sense but but you're right matt i mean i didn't see anything where we could enforce anything like you said you tell them they need to fix this
or do that and they do it they're not breaking any laws they're not breaking any um any rules you know with there's nothing that we can a enforce because there's nothing to enforce that's the way i see it i said i you know i i can
enforce nuisance as far as orders and like that are concerned but you know two times i've been by there i don't have any orders so um but again that can change with the weather uh you know usually once things get warmer um you know if it's odors directly related to the ducks then you
know they'll likely be present and you know we can go from there but as of right now it's it's what it is i think we you know maybe when um maybe we could next time that if you go over there maybe we can just talk to them directly and just ask
them you know kindly can can you try the drain the town's going to pay for it it's not going to cost you anything it's only going to be for the best and then we can move on sure all right we may have to go back and see what those costs were to make sure the town is still
willing to pay for it yeah there is we're still going to have to do a little homework on that one um as far as like you said this was i don't know what year that was this was offered to them in how long ago 2018 so that might be it it's
that off that that offer is probably off the table we'd have to go back to the town tom ferry was the one that offered it so when he gets back from vacation i will ask him but i think yeah we have to see what the cost
associated with it at this point is yeah that that sounds like a good plan to go forward and uh maybe before our next meeting um stacy matt and myself talked about the three of us going out to that address
um in order to talk to the homeowners too and i mean now that may is here it's it's getting a little warmer so maybe things will change um you know when we go there um our next
meeting is may the 20th so um before the next meeting we'll get out there and see what the situation is at that point okay i i go with you t oh that's right you're going to be back so sure yeah
i'll be back i'll be back in a couple weeks okay perfect um do you want to say anything now all right so why don't we table that uh pleasant street 2651 pleasant street and uh we'll make arrangements to go out
with animal control and with matt and go from there and then in the meantime we can also um look at if there was you know what cost it was in 2018 don't think that you know it's going to be something that
we're going to be able to offer right now but at least we can investigate that a little bit further uh and see where that takes us so can i get a motion to table 2651 pleasant street and make a motion to table 26 51
pleasant street okay step down and second that motion can i get a vote i i motion passes okay barn permit refunds so this was a request from the
accountants because apparently when barn permits were um removed from a requirement it should have been brought before the selectman any changes to the fee structure in a negative
impact needs to be approved by the selectman so i started doing some research and it goes back to i believe [Music] 20 22 is when the discussion started um
so the selectment are meeting april 23rd uh someone from the board and animal control should be there to answer any questions the selectman may have i spoke to stacy she said she's available
so either you or tammy um i'll get you the information you need of what motions were made and why they were made before that meeting so you know what transpired okay i just need one of you to be at the meeting okay
all right so um we'll have to table this one for now until after april 23rd so can i get a motion to table the bond permits motion to table bond permits i step down i second that motion can i get
a vote i i motion passes all right so new business um should we go back to reports uh yeah all right we're going to uh before we go to new business we're going to step back to uh reports and um i'm
going to let matt give a health agent report before we roll into the new topics uh i don't have too much to report i think some of the things that i will
would report on will be discussed under the some of the other issues later on in the agenda um but uh have some installs going on uh not been too crazy with perks lately so
um it's been a little on the slower side but that's about it okay thanks matt all right so we'll start with um 32 i'm sorry 1325 rebecca road septic repair
concern of 1335 rebecca road i believe barbara is it barbara is on with mine hi barbara can you hear us oh i think her
yes i can hear you can you hear me we can hear you if you want to um speak about your concern okay um my concern isn't about what you just referenced my concern is regarding um so initially borgess i live across
the street from borgess auto parts at 2199 lewis street and they were looking barbara we're in the wrong order we for rebecca rude so i apologize that's okay can i may i just say that i
am only able to be online till 4:45 i have patients coming in after that so if we could thank you thank you i appreciate that okay so um time is up all right why don't we just uh skip to b if that's okay yeah
just make a motion to uh m um m sorry vinnie can i get a motion to um take it out of order yes let's uh motion to take uh the agenda out of order i step down and second that motion can i get a vote
i i motion passes sorry barbara we had to do things so which one is she what's on board we have to go to new business lewis street so we're on louis street solar okay barbara we're ready for you i'm so sorry no that's okay thank you
for accommodating me um so the my initial concerns came with um the request by borgous autos to put in a solar farm above a garage unit and the concerns um for me were about leeching
and toxic waste because we do have a rather high cancer incident rate in my neighborhood so i live at 2199 lewis street which is right across from borgeous autos my husband was recently diagnosed with very very early stage
cancer and he's doing well thank god but both my neighbors to my immediate left and to my immediate right so the neighbors to my left not the current owners of the property but the previous owner of of the property
uh he had one of his wives was diagnosed with i'm not sure if it was cervical or or ovarian cancer so again because of hipper i don't know the exact type of cancer i know it was a female type cancer and she died from that cancer he
then got remarried and his second wife was also subsequently diagnosed with the same type or female cancer whether it be ovarian or cervical cancer the woman to
the right of me was diagnosed with cervical cancer um she survived that cancer but her husband was also diagnosed with cancer and he is deceased um and they not the owner current owner
of that property but the previous owner she now has relocated to i think new hampshire or maine um so i mean within roughly 300 foot frontage if you will if that's the you know marker that i can
use like i have 150 foot feet of frontage and so do both of those neighbors so within roughly 450 ft of each other we've had five instances of cancer two uh with death resulting and
so you know i'm not opposed to clean energy i'm not opposed to anything that's going to benefit the community but i think we have to really be looking into what the impact is both on us as the citizens of the town and the you
know the environment and so i went to the meeting to bring up my concerns about leeching and and toxicity levels and this came out of it and and i was advised to bring it to your attention i don't know what you can do i know that
we all on lewis street we have town water we don't have wells um but i also know that the town water um reserve is located i'd say within 450 ft of my the
back end of my property um on cedar street so um i mean that's the concern i know we've had incident rates of cancer in previous years because of ici and so i just want to make sure that
we are as a community um aware of uh you know potential risk so i'm bringing it to your attention and i'm putting it in your capable hands to decide what you think may be warranted and to follow up with
what you think may be warranted please thank you thank you bob um if the boy can just chime in um generally when you have ground contamination and cancer rates it's a result of
um individual wells that are contaminated um since you already have town water there really isn't much on the board of health side that we can do you know normally it would be a enforced you know there would be a very lengthy process through mass d and the epa to confirm that there's
contamination where it comes from and then those houses if there's town water available would be tied into town water um as far as the town water you know backup source there the town doesn't have authority over that due to the
capacity of it be through the state you know the state issues those permits for that particular water site um and the water department does have to do significant testing on a regular basis um and that is public record for what's
in that water as far as contaminant levels um so on on those terms that's that's the input i can give um as far as you know for future projects in a solar farm or what they're looking to do there
i you know i don't have input on that but for for groundwater contamination that's i would you know direct that to mass d to evaluate since it is a public water source that you have a concern about
yeah and the other part the other part of this too uh barbara is that to my knowledge that uh solar farm has been rescended yes i am aware that they have rescended the solar farm um but i was advised to come and speak with you people today
just to bring it to your attention uh what my concerns are i mean they are they are pretty significant concerns if you think about in the the you know high rate among very close proximity um so i'm doing that i if i
have to follow up with mass d i can certainly do that um i do get the water um testing results like as a citizen i'll be honest and say i'm not thrilled about them um i have gone out and
purchased a um you know a a charcoal type system to help remove some of those contaminants that are uh you know that we are aware of in the water supply and i do continue to kind
of monitor them um but like i said i was asked to come here and express the concern and i am aware that of the solar um you know properties you know um not going through and um you know that kind of makes me
sad because you know i want to have clean energy and more affordable energy as most of us do but i think we all need to be um making sure that it's not at the expense of us and our environment going forward so i appreciate your time
um and listening to the concern um at least at the very least it'll be recorded if there's ever another issue that comes forward and um i don't really know how to go about um maybe forwarding
the letter to the mass d uh if you think that might be appropriate i can certainly do that but um i don't know all the ins and outs of it myself i don't know if tammy does but um you know the your letter is on record with us like you said you are recorded here at
this meeting um if you wanted to raise your concerns to to the mass d um i certainly i don't see why you know if you wanted to do that you know go i would say go go right ahead i mean again
you know that right now it's not going forward so um you know i don't know what what the mass d uh would do with that but um again matt is more the expert in in this arena uh than we are and i think
he he laid it out uh pretty well but i mean it's been noted letter has been noted um and then from from there if you wanted to go further uh with it i i think that's up to you okay the only the la the last thing i will say is that you know i've um have i used to run i don't
run as much anymore because of an injury but you know i have a couple of businesses right around me and um i know that when i run at times past lynn's propane um they whatever they're washing the trucks with i can guarantee you is
some kind of chemical because i can smell it and it almost chokes you out when you're running so i mean there are some concerns that i you know like i said i don't run as much anymore but uh those are concerning to me mhm
okay well i thank you all for your time hope you have a nice week and uh thank you barbara thank you barbara before you go can i ask you one quick question i just want to make sure i have everything straight uh you said a couple of times that you were asked to come here to um
bring forward the complaint mhm is was that by us or was that by a group or uh actually like uh so my some of my neighbors have asked me to come uh forward because i when we got the notification about uh borges i'm the one
that's most affected so i kind of knocked on doors and said you know like you know is anybody else concerned so my neighbors have asked that i represent them um and that's what i'm doing we appreciate that and we
appreciate you bringing that to our uh knowledge and if you have any questions matt do you have any suggestions of how she navigates i forwarded i had received this information from another department and i'd forward it
to response so mr department office you're in a you're in a bad signal sorry it sounds matt's signal isn't so strong yeah so the only thing i would ask is that you know if he i can
hear him say he's forwarded it somewhere with no response if someone could just email me um since it's a bad connection or touch base with me at some point on where it got emailed to and if there's any suggested uh email to mass mass d um
i didn't get a response another department forwarded it and i'm not sure what department okay okay if if you do get it was in relation private it was in so sorry another bad connection what
we'll do is um if you contact liz in the office y uh we'll try to get that information for you so it's it's much smoother for you to get the information again i apologize unfortunately sometimes technology is great sometimes
it's not agreed we'll try to get that information for you just so it's it's easier for you because i know sometimes it can be difficult you know to navigate uh and try to find the right you know department or area in order to send that so we'll try to get that for you uh and
liz would be your primary contact in the office okay more than happy to do that for you thank you very much have a nice afternoon we appreciate you coming forward with the information thank you you're very welcome have a great day
okay vinnie you still there still here okay so i just need a motion to go back to uh 1325 rebecca road the subject concern okay motion to go back to the uh agenda
item a new business 1325 rebecca road i step down and second that motion can i get a vote i i motion passes okay review discuss act 1325 rebecca road septic repair concern of 1335 rebecca
road uh matt you still with us i think we lost him i am no he's still online oh better service in just a minute i just have to move him in the field i'm sorry okay i know matt do you have good
signal oh he's on mute how is it now good sounds good sounds good all right do we have anyone from 1325 rebecca road matt you back you're back out of signal
so i don't i don't think anybody's here so you can just table it or you can just i think we should just table it uh vinnie i'm gonna see uh i think we should probably table the rebecca road okay uh we don't have anyone here
representing the 1325 or if um 1335 and it sounds like matt is uh not doing so well with his connection uh so i just don't want to waste too much time so if i can get a
motion to table that and we can yes motion to table um item a under new business 1325 rebecca road okay i step down i second that motion can i get a vote i i motion passes
all right is this better yeah don't move you got to stand right there um so i i'll just say i don't understand why 13 to25 rebecca road is even an issue um it's a septic repair that has
no variances to property lines i did not do the perk for it um jerry bernard had done the perk the there are the the site is tough um there was no room in the front to be able to fit the field and they put the
field in the back i believe there was a neighbor that had concern um that they were not going to be able to do a septic upgrade on their property is what i was told with this one going in which makes absolutely no sense there's no crossing um there's no easements
needed for this septic repair it's completely on the lot that it services there's no issues with setbacks to property lines and as far as um grading's concerned the final grade
over the field will be about off the top of my head like two and a half or three feet higher than the grade now but there's plenty of room to grade it out properly as to not cause issues to neighboring property so i don't understand what the problem is um
conservation has made an issue of this and does not want to approve it i guess is what i understand so i just i i'm lost and confused um not only on this but other projects um i i i just i just
don't understand what the problem is i guess but i have no problem with it um generally i don't stamp plans approved until they're all set with conservation just in case you know things have to be changed or moved um but i did anyway um
because that's what they had requested and here we are with it still being a problem so um i had written a notice regarding all of this and here we are kicking it back yet again um to the board of health and i guess they want us to appear at their meeting which i will
be away on vacation for on thursday but um i just i'm just confused i guess um as to what's transpiring with other departments so matt i spoke to janet yesterday the owner of 1335 rebecca road
and she said her concern is all of the um the waiverss they're asking for on the last page it's really blurry but um there's a few bullets of
to allow the septic tank to be 70 ft from the bbw i think it says yeah they're all those are all wetlands requirements um i mean there there is there is no other alternative it's the maximum
feasible compliance for repair if it was new construction it probably wouldn't be allowed because you can't get not probably it would not be allowed but it's a repair so there's really no there there is no alternative um what is proposed is the best that can be done
on the site for a septic repair um so i you know there's i can't even begin to count how many other repairs require variances you know when the houses were built rules were different
um and unfortunately you know now it's a matter of you have a house you have to do a repair the septic has failed um and if the septic repair is not allowed then the house is deemed uninhabitable and
you you can't do that when you have a septic that's been drafted designed and proposed that's within maximum feasible compliance for that lot that will function just fine and cause no issues um you know to to the wetlands or the
neighboring property so i i just i'm i'm at a loss how long has this how long has this been uh tied up too long all right let's um let's get this moved forward
um let's coordinate with um conservation and get this done and approved and through as quickly as possible i have tried my best and have gotten nothing but confrontation in return so i i don't and it seems like
it's it's this is a regular occurrence okay they have a meeting thursday but unfortunately they don't have zoom yeah and i'm i'm on vacation so i'm and i'm not going i i will say i have never in 18 years had to go to a conservation
meeting especially over a repair um you know the engineer they do what they do with the board of health and the engineer goes to conservation and that's how it works i don't understand why the board of health is being
um badgered to an extreme by another department over things that have nothing to do with us you know question this this is why they why are
they holding it up how did how do they have this and why are they holding it up i thought we we rectified that situation any repairs i thought so too but um you know here we are an engineer this this isn't my plan this isn't my project um
i'm not the engineer for it i'm a board of health agent i reviewed it for board of health purposes and it is the best solution for the the law given the constraints um i have made that loud and clear and that's where our involvement ends if
conservation wants to work with the engineer and they can figure out a different solution be my guest and you know if they want to re do a revision and resubmit it that's fine um but that's between conservation and the engineer um not the board of health
i'm not the engineer for the project believe me if i was i'd be getting paid a whole lot more um so why conservation is trying to make me be the engineer and explain things that while i can it is
not appropriate um for me to be explaining an engineer's project to them um you know these the questions that have been asked of me are questions that the engineer should be asked during
their hearing for this um you know i and especially for me i were i wasn't the one that did the perks or anything else i just reviewed the plan as it was proposed to me um you know i've since talked to the agent who had done the perks and you know we had a discussion
about it that particular site and where they did the perks and where they proposed proposed the system is the only place it can go um so you know i i'm just at a loss yeah um i think you know we need to i don't
know what you know again from what matt's saying like on our end like what we can do except to u contact conservation tell them it was with the utmost urgency moving forward now that we have those um those protocols that are in place um you know this shouldn't
happen uh any longer um and then if we don't get an answer back uh from conservation uh in say they how couldn't take more than a day or two then you know i i don't know if we kick it up to to the selectman or or what but
this has got to be rectified and taken care of it's not fair to the family um and and from everything that matt said matt's not involved it's the engineer so that's my proposal the they do need conservation approval you know that has to go to a hearing i believe that they
had started that process they did open a hearing for it because they are working within the 100 foot um wetland buffer so that is under conservation's purview um but again you know this is a repair you have a failed septic system
that absolutely has the potential to cause detrimental harm to the environment and welfare of neighboring properties if left in failure um you know and here's a solution to rectify that and it's being
delayed and i don't understand why um so you know they're not looking to do it within the 50ft buffer it's within you know 100 ft that's under their their purview um you know i think if if it continues and it's denied um you know the applicant and the engineer can take
it to mass dp and try to get a superseding order but again that has nothing to do with us that's that's up to them and their their choice but um you know i think that we have more than done our part and i have more than done my part to explain and
approve i have about nothing left regarding the matter well let's um i mean if tammy if tammy agrees is that you know let let's just there's nothing to say that we can't go a little bit above and beyond and um try
to expedite this um and get this done um for um you know for the u for the homeowner um that would be my suggestion tammy i don't know what your feelings are i agree with you i agree with you 100% um i don't want these people to be
held up anymore uh time is definitely money um it's not fair uh they have every right to repair the system without this being you know a process that's taking forever i agree so if we could draft
something and send it to them um and then try to get a response within the next what's reasonable three days liz two days till the end of the week i'd say yeah because it's if it's still on their agenda then they'll probably have
some feedback from them thursday okay so if we we send that out maybe tomorrow if we could if it's possible or you know thursday latest and u them and that where they'll have it for their meeting on thursday
i'll um run it by the board first make sure again you know we're back to risking lawsuits right so um let's try to i mean again i let's just go the extra mile um and um see if
we can get this done and over with okay so how would we do that if we've already tabled it if we we're gonna send a letter we have to go back i thought you only tabled it because matt wasn't yeah but do we have
to no problem okay all right so vinnie can i get a motion to uh submit that notification that letter yes motion to submit um letter to encourage the conservation committee to settle 1325
rebecca road as soon as possible okay i stepped down can i second that motion can i get a vote i i motion passes okay um we're at c review discuss act 1770 oak grove program
request so we have a resident who inquired about the betterment program it's a loan program that they borrow the funds from the town they pay it back through their taxes i got with
the town uh accountant the ta and the collective treasurer and the funds are available for them to borrow so the board needs to well we're still making sure that they are i haven't been able to go through all of the years of the
betterment okay so at one point we had money in this account to let people borrow to fix their septics so we'll wait to hear back from serena to see if we have the money in the account um and then the process should go the board of health they come to the board of health
they there's an application the board approves it and then it goes through to the town um collective treasurer which would be paul reynolds um they process the loan stuff but we
don't have anything that i could find okay so in the packet i put lakeville's process so we could tailor something like that to diton
um if you guys think that that's a good good document to use and yeah we we should review it liz and then um you know um revise it to our needs okay we still have some time cuz serena says
she's still looking for the full balance on the account okay um do we have a deadline to use that money serena okay so i mean the only rush is the homeowner i know he's got he said he had
i want to say there's six people living in this house and they're having to pump out their system twice a month okay okay it's it's completely gone so that's a rush
yeah we should definitely expedite that then has the homeowner received any estimates for repair no and he's got to do a title five i told him he needs to get a that alone is going to take him a little time
so i i would think that we have enough time between now and our next meeting to come up with an application i don't want to tell him to do the title five and get an estimate if we don't have the money to let him borrow but we have to know how much he needs to borrow right yeah to know if i have money all right so
i'll tell him he has to go through it okay all right so i'll call him tomorrow let him know okay so um i think what we should do is obviously table this and let's come up with an application we'll review what
lakeville has and uh we'll come up up with our own um application form and uh serena can verify funds the homeowner can do their part and uh at our next meeting we can put everything together
and see where we're at so vinnie can i get a motion for that yep motion to table item c um 1770 oak grove program request until we can get a um uh a letter and um
application uh to the homeowner okay i step down i second that motion could i please get a a vote i i motion passes okay next we have the food and safety inspections and i don't think cliff is here cliff are you here
i don't see him no we might have to table that i i briefly talked to him i don't know if you wanted me to relay or do you want to just wait to hear from him um i mean if you have something that he did some inspections and he has some
concerns um so he wanted to know what the board of health process is for um businesses that don't pass inspections and i don't know so that
would be what matt does okay so we need matt to probably come up with guidance on you know if they fail their inspections what what what's next okay so i maybe i think this we should
table and uh and have is matt still on matt you still here i don't think he is all right why don't we table here oh sorry matt you were so quiet um so i don't know if you heard what we were talking about cliff's not here so he had
some concerns about some of the uh inspections um i don't know if you heard what liz had mentioned uh he needs some guidance so maybe you can come up with some um some things for for
cliff when you get back and yeah as long as i just know what the issues were um did he submit the inspection reports yes you do you want to just i don't it doesn't have to be tonight when you get a chance just scan them and email them to me and i'll take a look and i can go
from there okay all right so thanks matt so we can revisit that our next meeting and see um where we're at with that so i say
um let's table it and uh get an update from matt uh vinnie if you want to suggest a motion yep i'd make a motion to table item d under new business i step down and second that motion can i
get a vote i i motion passes all right moving on to e curbside recycling increase are these the final contractual numbers there's no contract signed okay so i don't know if you want to announce it
that's why well i mean it's in the packet so it's already out there that's where i got it from oh yeah but i mean if it's not fully signed contract it's not a fully signed
contract this is just discussions that were had between gorgeous and the town um administrator it looks like it's about a $40,000 increase yeah i think we should wait we don't know yeah table until our next meeting
um until everything's finalized so there's really no signed contract as of yet um yeah i i see that um to see anything without knowing for sure so yeah you want to make a motion to table that until our next meeting yeah uh
motion to table item e curbside recycling increase under new business okay i step down i second that motion can i get a vote i i motion passes moving on the adu bylaw matt
sorry i missed that oh that's okay the adu bylaw oh yes um so i sent the memo over to you liz um and i know you forward it to carrie um so mass dp a month and a half ago
finally had some discussion at one of the seminars i was at and said that we would get final guidance within a couple weeks um what they had discussed at that conference uh is nothing about what they actually
ended up putting out um they had originally made thought they would be making consideration for um the adus as far as maybe different sizing requirements um things like that
but what was basically sent out was um the gist of it is adus have to file um file uh comply with all new construction standards um so basically
if the adu will create an increase in flow to the existing septic system um that system needs to be compliant under the current title 5 which is since 1995 um if there's an increase in flow in the
system was put in prior to 95 the entire system needs to be replaced um if there is no increase in flow a title five inspection will have to be done uh to show that is that the system
is passing and a two compartment tank will be required um if the adu is to be detached and have its own septic system that new system has to comply with all new construction standards
um and any uh wellhead you know zone 2 protection district um still is in full effect so uh for loading nitrogen loading capacities uh it's four bedrooms
per acre is about what it comes out to um more than that there is a provision for alternative secondary treatment to get five bedrooms per acre but that i would deal with that on a case- by case
basis um so it's not ideal for anyone looking to put an adu in place but it makes it easier for us because it just it's new construction standards there's no um there's no variances there's no leeway this is what
it is um that's it and that's that so um i did put that memo together and uh sent that off to planning uh to add to
their i guess uh their bylaw for the adus okay just so the board knows planning is having an open uh hearing on may 7th um
so if you have any changes or anything you want to do to matt's recommendation it needs to be submitted before then okay matt's recommendation was in the packet okay yeah it went through that yep
basically i i just took that so the d's guidance was five pages and it's in their uh lingo if you will that can be very difficult for a lot of people to understand and follow um so basically i
took their five pages and condensed it down to one with language that actually makes sense to everybody hopefully okay i don't have anything to add vinnie any anything to add before no
i mean i go with with what matt said i did briefly look at the packet but you know i go with with what matt would would would say okay all right so um we need a motion on that
i will say you know had the d allowed other conditions um you know the the board could have gone stricter um but basically the d master dp is setting forth as strict as
can be um for them so there's no reason to to deviate from from what's already been issued by the state okay vinnie can i get a motion so motion to accept
uh item f adu bylaw i step down i second that motion can i get a vote i i motion passes moving on to g conservation practice application so since lisa's not here we will uh
table this and see if she wants to come to our next meeting um so can i get a a motion to table uh g conservation per test application yeah i um make a motion to table item g uh new brick
um test conservation committee i step down second that motion can i get a vote i i motion passes moving on to seven items not reasonably anticipated within 48 hours i don't have anything
vinnie nothing madam chair may i speak for a moment sure um there is an item that probably was not known to you within the past 48 hours but um for your public health collaborative all of the
cities and towns now that are participating all of the attorneys have approved the intermunicipal agreement uh and all of the funding to your collaborative is being withheld until the ima is signed by all of the
towns the state's not giving any of the money uh until well they've given they've given partial payment but the last payment is being withheld until all sign all towns sign your next meeting is may 20th uh
yes may 20th right and then i believe that on that form i believe it's your your select board chair uh i don't think it's your town manager i think it's your select board chair would need to correct so we need to get if there's some way um
for you to approve the signing of that since it's been approved by your attorney i don't know whether matt has a copy of it i think he does have a copy of of the final draft that that that's been approved by all council but we need
to we need to get that done so that your group can get funding and we you know we've been working very very closely with your town council and uh all of the others and it's been it's been a real ping-pong ball and you guys are there's
51 groups 51 shared services groups and you are among the last two or three at this point that haven't signed yet just so you know yeah mike just to give you a little bit of uh history we signed that and sent it over and then it was kicked
back by another town's legal so we were asked to resign it and that just came back to us last week right so i sent it over to the selectman and she sent it to our legal he's fine with it so tammy signed it today oh good yeah i'll get it
over to the select tomorrow morning that's great news fabulous okay thank you you're welcome thank you thank you mike and while i have your attention there were two other items i just wanted to point out if you're trying to get a public health nurse um mha
uh the mass health officers association on their website has job postings and i checked while you were talking they do post uh public health nurse positions on theirs for free i think it's for free so you might want to you might want to follow up with them and if you want to
forward it to me we're we're in the process now of updating we we've completely rebuilt our website and it's gone it's gone live in the last week and i think to the best of my knowledge i think that our job posting section is live and i can make sure that it gets
posted if you want to forward it to me oh that's wonderful thank you thank you okay and the other the other one that i picked out during your meeting was the 2651 pleasant street just remind you and i'm sure that matt i think matt actually
mentioned this but if it comes to a nuisance thing um that that's purely within your jurisdiction and if you need help with a cease and desist order or anything like that i draft those for all the boards whenever you need it so we're here for you if you need that thank you that' be great i i could tell you mike
because i i did look and i i didn't see anything uh that we could do um but if there is something that we can do um we i would i would say yeah we should pursue that again i i'm of a mind is
like you know don't the the neighbors are complaining if you saw the one woman that was here that left after we discussed that she was the one that brought the complaint to our attention um and again you know matt had
said you know he tells them to do this or do that enforces whatever they do it right away and um but the woman is complaining you know they have too many they had too i don't know too many ducks or something tammy right it was
something along that line there's nothing we can do about that you know we can't say "hey two ducks." okay you know but um you know if to me it's like take the path of least resistance you know like i said tammy you know and i we had kind of
discussed to say maybe if we go there we try to reason with them and say "hey we're going to pay for the drain let us put it in the drain your own property is going to smell." um and your neighbors might be happy let's try that i mean i think i would like to try that before we
go down the path of okay now we have to file a nuisance and you know get everybody all angry at each other you know that that that's what i think if tammy agrees i'd like to try that method first but um that is a good option to have if we need it yeah i only if you
need it it sounds to me like you're doing it completely the right way and everybody would prefer not to get into the the battles so we're here if you need us for that we appreciate that okay thank you mike all right have a great day i'm out of here
thank you bye bye thank you mike all right any uh public input anybody online for public input no just me all right so approve meeting minutes 31825 could i get a motion i would like
to approve meeting minutes for march 18th 2025 all right i step down and second that motion can i get a vote i i motion passes all right looks like our next scheduled meeting is may 20th 2025
at 4 pm and most importantly can i get a motion for adjournment motion to adjurnn i step down second that motion can i get a vote i i motion passes have an awesome rest of the day
thank you very much i'll see you guys in a see you guys in a couple weeks you betcha we'll be here bye safe travels all right thank you bye bye man