WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=8SnkveU6Y_s NOTE MEETING SECTIONS: Part 1 (Video ID: 8SnkveU6Y_s): - 00:00:16: Meeting Commences: Pledge, Agenda, Rossi Continuance Approved - 00:01:28: Groots Garage: Demolition, Construction, Peer Review Discussion - 00:05:55: Weston and Samson Review: Site Overview, Buffer Zones - 00:08:43: Questions and Answers: Landscapers, Septic System Details - 00:13:19: Underground Systems, Dumpster Location, Recusal Discussion - 00:15:05: Landscaping Conditions, Tree Replacement, Vote To Approve - 00:18:51: Hunter Hill Clubhouse Drive Project Discussion Begins - 00:20:22: Single Family Home Construction Within Wetland Jurisdiction - 00:24:13: Mitigation Plan Discussion, Vernal Pool Consideration - 00:28:05: Delineation Review for Victor Dilva at Courtland Road - 00:33:30: Discussion of Peer Review and Wetland Delineation - 00:36:41: Public Input on Courtland Road Delineation, Covenants - 00:41:16: Motion to Hire Nova Environmental, Escrow Account - 00:41:49: William Street Abbreviated Area Resource Delineation Review - 00:45:56: Public Comment on the Williams Street Property Line - 00:50:38: Feny, Zero Main Street RDA Application Withdrawn - 00:52:57: Partial Certificate of Compliance Request, Hot Street - 00:57:17: Disagreement, Frustration Over Unapproved Restoration Plans - 01:04:00: Contractor Missteps, Discussion of Grading, Erosion Issues - 01:10:47: Enforcement Actions, Maple Swamp Road Update - 01:13:06: How Street Regrading, Erosion Controls, Wetland Scientist - 01:13:54: Meeting Minutes Approval, Bills Payable, Release Funds - 01:16:24: Potential Bylaw Amendment Discussion, Fees Discussion - 01:21:26: Buffington, Wetland Restoration Compliance, Public Input - 01:22:32: Executive Session, Collective Bargaining, Litigation Strategy Part: 1 1 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:30.800 conservation commission meeting to audit. Uh this meeting is video and audio recorded for cable broadcast and internet posting on www.dyon uh-mash.gov Gov and YouTube. Would everyone stand 2 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:48.040 please for the pledge of allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Our 3 00:00:52.160 --> 00:01:07.760 first item on the agenda is an a notice of intent application uh by John Paul Rossi of Zenica. Uh that uh uh is they have requested a continuence to our May 4 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:28.560 21st uh meeting. Is there a motion to continue? Motion to continue. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> I >> Okay. Next, we have a notice of intent 5 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:44.640 application from Tyler Groots, 553 Center Street, uh to demo existing trailer home, construct a new 4 bay garage with associated parking utilities and septic system. Uh Weston and Samson 6 00:01:44.640 --> 00:02:39.959 peer review receive and response from Wengineering received. Okay. Small copies of the plan if anybody wants. >> Okay. Thank you. I have a lounge sign in please. 7 00:02:46.319 --> 00:03:03.840 >> Thank Mr. Shannon Evan Watson from W Engineering representing the applicant. Uh we were here a few months ago. Uh we presented the project the 4 bay garage that's in the 200 foot riverfront area 8 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:21.440 and the board going to send it out to third party review at Wesson and Samson. Uh since we last met, we uh met with the planning board who went over the site plan review and special permit which they've approved. And we've also had a review from Western 9 00:03:21.440 --> 00:03:38.480 Samson for all the storm water and for all the components of the nose and pent filing. Uh we responded to all the storm water issues with the planning board and we have a clean letter from them. And then we have um the final well what I would hope to be the final review from 10 00:03:38.480 --> 00:03:53.440 them on the notice of intent information. I responded to them and was be able to address all of their concerns. They just had a couple uh minor typos on the forms and asked to add some erosion control to the plan 11 00:03:53.440 --> 00:04:18.400 which I have done. Um, so I'd be happy to hear anything that maybe Wes Samson has to say, anything comments from the agent and answer any questions that the board may have. >> Um, we also have a presentation from 12 00:04:18.400 --> 00:04:34.960 Megan at some point. >> Yes. Okay. I'm just going through. Okay. Uh Megan, why don't you uh give us your review of the project? >> Sure. I'll uh run through it very quickly. You all can hear me correct? 13 00:04:34.960 --> 00:04:51.160 >> Yes. >> Can you hear her? Okay. >> Yes. >> Um it won't let me share my screen. Um I don't know if you could could see any help sharing. I'm happy to just run through the comments. 14 00:05:29.440 --> 00:05:55.199 Oops. >> Yeah. What does it say? calls. >> Yeah, I can do that and it'll allow her to >> That looks like it works. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> All right. So, theoretically, you are 15 00:05:55.199 --> 00:06:15.280 seeing a presentation right now. >> All right. I will jump into it. So, just briefly, we reviewed the initial materials provided by the applicant. I know they recently submitted some revised materials, taking 16 00:06:15.280 --> 00:06:32.479 a quick look at them. I haven't had a chance to dig into them, but um I'll I'll touch on that briefly, but just to reorient this site 553, there is a cranial stream on the western side of the site as a BW. 17 00:06:32.479 --> 00:06:47.680 These are just some photos from the site visit to give you all a general idea of what it looks like. On the left hand side is the existing driveway and on the right side is the existing pennial stream and some bordering vegetated 18 00:06:47.680 --> 00:07:02.319 wetlands. And then here are some representative photos of the border wetlands out on site. I did conduct a site visit and all the wetlands I agreed with their placement of um 19 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:19.520 so just as uh the applicant just stated there were a few administrative items uh to update some WPA form updates. It does look like those have all been updated. Um similarly the wetland delineation report tape the data provided. are 20 00:07:19.520 --> 00:07:38.240 providing all that information and there are some updates as well on the look like those have been added and sees added as well areas for the conservation commission. Um there was 21 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:54.560 one question I just had. It didn't look like the local wetland um buffer zones have been added to the plan. I don't know if that's something the commission might want to request. I do understand there's no work proposed in it. However, typically 22 00:07:54.560 --> 00:08:12.000 like on no work. So I would defer to the commission on that. Um and then in the narrative the applicant address performance standards in area provided additional clarification 23 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:27.039 for the work that can't be located outside of it. Um and it does share the responses to C comments um took place and then as the applicant also suggested the storm water review has been 24 00:08:27.039 --> 00:08:43.440 completed. Um the commission may wish to have the discharge statement and apologize it might have been part of the new materials you provided but if not the commission may wish to add that as a condition in the order of conditions. 25 00:08:43.440 --> 00:09:01.120 So I will open up to questions from the commission or agent. >> So did you address any D comments? She said >> the comment was to uh they asked the commission to confirm that the lot existed before 1997 26 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:18.240 and in the materials I submitted was the plan that created the lot which was in the 70s. So, and then the other thing the uh elicit discharge statement I provided a signed copy >> to the planning what is that >> to planning board and I believe it was 27 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:33.760 in the materials that I dropped off. >> It wasn't attached but >> I think it was a separate uh piece of paper in the fold. >> Oh, okay. >> Is this uh structure going to be for the repairing of their vehicles? >> No. So, it's basically a contract as 28 00:09:33.760 --> 00:09:50.240 condominiums. So the idea would be a plumber could rent out one of these bays. He would show up in the morning, grab his materials, hop in his plumbing van, and go out to service his customers. Uh electrician, HVAC guy, 29 00:09:50.240 --> 00:10:16.480 that that type of uh but no repair of any automotive. >> Okay. So they won't be changing oil or doing stuff like Okay. No. We talked about this briefly, but um any chance you would even 30 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:33.440 consider um end up ending up renting to like a landscaper or any one like that? >> Well, there's no >> we don't have anybody in line. Anybody in line, right? >> There's nobody in line. But part of it is part of the 31 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:49.120 um zoning is that there's no uh storage of stock and materials outside. >> Yeah. Nothing on site or any of that worry. Absolutely not. >> So, I would expect that if a landscaper asked to rent a bay, he would not want 32 00:10:49.120 --> 00:11:06.800 to because he can't stock any material, >> keep equipment, not all that type of stuff outside. >> Not necessarily. No, I don't want any of that. I don't want people. >> This is the I live on the back. So, >> okay. So, there's no septic system on site or 33 00:11:06.800 --> 00:11:23.040 >> there will be a septic system. Yes. >> So, there'll be a septic system. >> Okay. All right. All right. >> Now, is it each unit that's going to have a septic uh restaurant? >> No. >> We're not sure yet. We do a common area or we do one. We haven't decided that 34 00:11:23.040 --> 00:11:41.839 yet. >> Yeah, the septic's designed to accommodate the whole building. >> So they they could conceivably each have their own restroom. >> So how do you how do you judge something like that uh versus a threebedroom house 35 00:11:41.839 --> 00:11:59.760 or four bedroom house? >> Uh title five has uh lists of design flow for each type of use. So in there, that's what we use to size. >> Any uh need for any dewatering at the site? 36 00:11:59.760 --> 00:12:16.480 >> I don't believe so. Um water table was fairly low. We have on-site storm water that is obviously above it infiltration. So it's above the water table and then the building will be slab on grade. So no deep foundations or anything of that 37 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:32.800 nature. So I don't expect to be deep watering needed. Okay. >> So, did I see it correctly that you're you're going to be putting in two infiltration systems? There's snow water on one on each end. >> That's right. >> Okay. 38 00:12:32.800 --> 00:12:48.000 >> And the roof is tied into that and that picks up the water from the one on each side. >> Everything's going into those systems. >> And so, how do those get maintained as >> there's an operation and maintenance plan that we submitted with the storm 39 00:12:48.000 --> 00:13:04.160 water report. So it would be on the owner of the property to do that. So there was um some inspection reports and cleanouts shown and then the catch basins themselves can be opened up and pumped out, you know, scooped out just like a road catch basin. 40 00:13:04.160 --> 00:13:19.519 >> Was the planning board requiring like updates on the operation and maintenance of it or >> is that something they usually >> I don't think that was in there though. >> No, just so you're aware they have to maintain it. Got to keep up with 41 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:37.680 everything now. >> Okay. >> Underground. >> Okay. Looking at this for the most part there outside of the 200 foot uh and uh you know including the septic 42 00:13:37.680 --> 00:13:58.160 is that going to be all that packing is that going to be all paved or is that going to be crushed gravel? Uh >> it's proposed to be paved. So, um, one current concern I have is, um, there's a, I think a relatively new, 43 00:13:58.160 --> 00:14:15.839 um, dumpster over there. >> Not relatively new. It's been there for 10 years. >> And it's not on that property. >> And that's off property. It's not different. >> Got it. >> So, that's not relevant to this conversation. >> Okay. Just double check. 44 00:14:15.839 --> 00:14:32.480 I didn't hear respon so that's why >> I no Tyler and I were talking about it. >> You have any any more questions? >> I really should have rescued myself, Jim. >> Oh, okay. >> Because because my mother was a Staples 45 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:50.639 and they were related to Brad. So, >> okay. Well, we we get >> Okay. >> Who aren't you related to? Now, Staples goes way back. My grandfather was >> Yeah. >> cousin to 46 00:14:50.639 --> 00:15:05.839 >> Once you get the third cousin, they're not related anymore. >> No, but related to Brad. >> Okay. Um, any questions over here? >> No. 47 00:15:05.839 --> 00:15:24.720 >> Okay. Um, Lisa, do you have anything else before we uh decide Well, I I think it can be conditioned. I mean, approved with conditions. Yes. So, >> well, there there's always conditions. 48 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:43.199 Uh um and uh >> so you got to remove uh so as far as the landscaping goes. Um so, did you want to specify? It looks like you specified the seed mix of the 49 00:15:43.199 --> 00:16:00.079 lawn but um existing lawn to be remained disturbed areas to receive loan and seed. Um are there any areas that we could 50 00:16:00.079 --> 00:16:18.480 replace uh trees? How many trees? One tree. There was one tree that was uh central here that had to be removed and then there's a row of abroad that are along the driveway. He's going to pick those up and relocate them on the other side 51 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:34.079 of the driveway and along the back. >> Okay. >> Okay. Now, what do you you have two or three uh uh s uh septic systems? I I can see definitely two. It looks like there's a third one there. 52 00:16:34.079 --> 00:16:52.639 >> That's right. So, two of them are to handle the storm water runoff. It's infiltration. >> Okay. >> And then the third is the on-site septic system here. >> Okay. Oh, I got you. Okay. All right. Okay. >> Any uh questions? Anyone? 53 00:16:52.639 --> 00:17:10.319 >> Four has the landscaping. Um so, we're basically going to maintain some of the vegetation. >> I just want to make sure that that actually does happen. And then the seed mix that Megan was talking about, 54 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:29.919 did you want to specify that? >> Um, it did specify here. It says lawn seed mix of Kentucky blue grass, perennial grass, creeping red fescue, and annual rivals, which is pretty much the bag if you think of that. >> Native. 55 00:17:29.919 --> 00:17:45.120 >> Yes. >> Okay. Megan, do you have anything else? >> Replace that tree with another tree. Do you guys mind explaining a tree to replace a tree to take down? >> No, we had actually anticipated probably more than just one tree. We like trees. >> Okay, great. 56 00:17:45.120 --> 00:18:00.240 >> Good. >> Just we just asked that they be native. >> That's fine. >> We have to look at it. So, >> stay away from the invasive grasses. A lot of times the landscapers like to use that very 57 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:15.280 >> we're the landscapers and we have to keep up with it and I don't want to deal with it. So don't worry it'll be nice Lisa. >> Okay Lisa Megan do you have anything else you want to say or are you finished? >> The only the only outstanding thing would be just to add the local buffer 58 00:18:15.280 --> 00:18:33.840 zones to the plans but that could also be something to condition to submit. >> Anyone in the audience have questions? Okay. Uh, I'll look for a motion. >> Motion to approve living conditions. 59 00:18:33.840 --> 00:18:51.440 >> Is there a second? >> Okay. All in favor? >> We have 21 days to issue those. I don't think I'll take the whole 21. There is a 10day appeal period from the date they're issued. >> Very good. Thank you. 60 00:18:51.440 --> 00:19:07.520 >> Okay. >> Close the hearing, I guess. Oh, and I have another item on the agenda. It's last. I don't know if it makes sense just to take it right now. >> Which which one? Give me a >> The Hunter Hill. 61 00:19:07.520 --> 00:19:22.720 >> Hunter Hill. Oh, the Clubhouse. >> Clubhouse Drive. >> Okay. >> All right. Um, let's take that out of order then. Uh, if someone would make a motion to take Clubhouse Drive out of order. >> Motion to take Clubhouse Drive out of 62 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:47.200 order. Second. >> Okay. All in favor? >> Okay. Lisa, we we just voted to take clubhouse drive out of our long bill. >> Thank you. >> I think my other I think that folder is in my car. 63 00:19:47.200 --> 00:20:03.600 >> Okay. Do you have your file number yet? >> You have copies of plants for them? >> I don't have copies for them. I can go get mine. >> We didn't receive a file number, but we would like to hear input from what the board has to say. >> Let me go get my plans from the power. >> Okay. Well, he can uh 64 00:20:03.600 --> 00:20:20.760 >> do you want to see? >> Uh yeah, let's Okay, let's wait a moment and we'll uh You don't have a file number? >> We don't have a file number yet. So, I'm not expecting to close the hearing, but I would like to hear any input if there's any changes while we're waiting. 65 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:37.679 Okay, for the audience, this is um Longuilt Homes, uh Hunter Hill. Uh this is construction of a single family house with associated clearing and grading. Uh file number not yet issued and this is 66 00:20:37.679 --> 00:20:53.600 in that I'm going to call it the senior um 55 development. Okay. and uh a portion of the work falls within the uh wetland jurisdiction. Thank you, Jack. 67 00:20:53.600 --> 00:21:08.400 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It's Evan Watson again, Wen Engineering, representing the applicant. Um this is a filing construct a single family home on lot 127. Now, most of the other lots that we've been in here were uh new lots 68 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:24.559 that were part of um the redesign. When law build came in, we modified the form C subdivision and they're building all new homes on new lots. When they purchased the property, this lot was 69 00:21:24.559 --> 00:21:40.640 cleared and uh ready for development, but the previous owner had yet to build a house on it. So, um to the left is an existing house on lot 146. >> Actually, it's his is quite visible to us. Jack, you want to see 70 00:21:40.640 --> 00:22:00.080 >> you want to see this here? >> I can pretty much. >> Okay. All right. Yeah, I can see very well from here. >> Yeah, guys, you want to between two existing houses? This is slightly different than the standard house they use so that it fits well on 71 00:22:00.080 --> 00:22:16.400 this lot and it matches uh the houses on either side of it. Um this behind here, this is a a wetland that was more or less created by some happen stance uh in the back here. Just 72 00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:32.080 doesn't really uh you know they they built certain things to a certain point and then they kind of gave up. You know, >> we're talking about the previous owner. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> They they >> they Yes. Um, and part of that there's an there's a a 73 00:22:32.080 --> 00:22:48.880 woods road that they use through here to access the area in the back instead of going around the roadway. So, right now there's a an existing wood road. There's like a pile over here and there's not really a lot of top soil. It's just um 74 00:22:48.880 --> 00:23:04.559 some weeds growing in there through the the dirt of whatever could could make it. Um, so on here I show that we have our 100 foot buffer zone, our 50 foot no build zone, and then this while we were 75 00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:22.799 permitting things was classified as a vertical. >> Okay. Where's the house going to be? Right here. >> Okay. All right. >> So, it's out, excuse me, outside the 50 foot, but it's within the 200 foot uh vernal pool area. So again, this lot is 76 00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:41.280 currently a lawn and there's houses on either side of it. So my contention is that this area that would normally be good for protection of the vernal pool is not currently functioning um or anything useful for any um animals here. 77 00:23:41.280 --> 00:23:58.240 Just to the back side of this is where we created our wetland mitigation area uh for the clubhouse. And so we created a new vernal pool there and we created um some other wetlands. Uh Lisa and I walked out there 78 00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:13.039 the other day. We actually saw the egg masses and everything else. So it's it's working out really really well. press without >> you said >> 200 feet from the vernal pool. Now our 79 00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:31.760 bylaw says vernal pool is is 100 ft from the high water mark. So that's 200 feet from that point. >> We're 100t from that point. So we're within that. Um now your bylaw does allow to um some concessions. So, what 80 00:24:31.760 --> 00:24:48.880 we were looking to do is since this area in here isn't very useful to any habitat, but this existing roadway would be, uh, we would want to come in here and kind of scrape out the useless uh, 81 00:24:48.880 --> 00:25:05.360 soil. >> So, you want to go within the 25 foot no touch >> to do some wetland mitigation. Yes. So on this road here, we would replace it with some top soil and then seed it with um a wood road seed mix, which would 82 00:25:05.360 --> 00:25:21.440 grow some grasses in there and then allow the other wetland vegetation that's around it to fill in and create a better habitat and it would be more connected to the vernal pool that we created to the north. And then on this side we have the 83 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:37.600 25 foot um no touch zone and it's has been mowed routinely. So we would hold that 25 ft no touch zone and we would plant some additional plantings in here. I specified some red ozio dogwood there. 84 00:25:37.600 --> 00:25:54.080 you uh you have submitted um dialogue with your uh plans or >> um it was just nothing too too fancy just uh something >> all right well this gives us a heads up 85 00:25:54.080 --> 00:26:10.320 so that we can uh uh view it and when we go on site we'll know what you're dealing with more effectively and uh uh and you know you do expect it it has to be continued because of a lack of a file number. >> That's right. So, >> okay. 86 00:26:10.320 --> 00:26:27.039 >> But we do need something written, you know, if you want to work in that zone, like, you know, we need some sort of your mitigation plan kind of written out in a narrative. >> If you could um I I actually like you didn't Well, 87 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:44.440 you'll see it. Well, we can go to the right. >> Yeah. >> Well, we got time. We got a month to get down there and uh and see everything and uh we'll be there. not to interrupt. You were saying, Lisa, I didn't want to interrupt her when she was saying how much she likes the project. So, 88 00:26:46.960 --> 00:27:02.000 >> he's gone. >> What you're going to have to do is put it in a bowling alley. >> Pretty much. >> Well, this cat, >> this is essentially a bowling alley right now. >> We want to remove the bowling alley and replace it with something that's a 89 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:17.760 little more habitat friendly. So, >> okay. All right. Does anyone have any questions now or we'll just wait for a further uh uh you know further filing along the way and uh any dialogue that we get with it. So we'll be down there. 90 00:27:17.760 --> 00:27:33.279 >> Yeah, if you want me to uh come along certainly let me know or um Brendan from >> Lisa and we'll let you know on that. >> I have a question. Brendan's no longer there, right? Because I did try to reach him. Is there someone else that's >> Oh, I forgot. I forgot. 91 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:48.720 >> All right. Call Brendan anytime. He'll help you. >> Okay. Uh, are you all set? >> Yes, I am. So, I'd ask the board to continue and schedule. >> Uh, okay. You're requesting continue. Well, we have to. Is there a motion to 92 00:27:48.720 --> 00:28:05.200 continue? >> So, moved. >> Second. >> Seconded by Jack. All in favor? >> I uh 20 >> 21. >> Thank you, Evan. Okay. 93 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:21.760 >> Uh we're going back to the uh direction of the agenda says review discuss a new hearing abbreviated notice of resource area delineation by Victor Dilva for property at 2689 94 00:28:21.760 --> 00:28:40.600 uh Cton Road map 21. The request is to be reviewed and approved the wetland resource areas as delineated. The applicant was sent the application was sent out for two proposals. Um, 95 00:28:42.320 --> 00:29:27.480 >> how you doing, sir? >> Good. You legendary. >> Leave these on Lisa's desk. >> Okay. Get back to Lisa. She'll uh Yeah, I I should be here. >> You got a code on. 96 00:29:39.520 --> 00:30:24.480 Lisa, we all set up. >> Can you sure you did? Hopefully a bird doesn't fly in. >> Yeah, thank you. >> This property was the remaining piece of property when we did the subdivision for C road years ago. This is the house of 97 00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:42.960 all the holding the farmland out there 2689 C. What we did is we had a botist go out to the site Chris Capone. He flag the wetland line which I'm showing on the plan in green and the riverfront line. 98 00:30:42.960 --> 00:31:05.480 Okay, we do not have a map here of this. Okay, have copies. >> Uh do you have a couple there or is this Do we have to submit? >> Yeah, we do. Sorry. >> Want to wrap this one up. 99 00:31:12.159 --> 00:32:09.679 >> Okay. Are >> you on Portland first? >> Yes. >> Okay. Hey, let's slide. Okay, slide. We got here. We're also >> Oh, that's the other that's >> okay. 100 00:32:09.679 --> 00:32:26.880 >> Okay. Williams. Old Williams. >> Yep. >> Courtland. >> No, this is Courtland. Down Street's a little dead end street. This is where Rita found to live. The house has been sold. So what we did is Chris Capone flagged the wetland line which is goes from A1 101 00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:41.679 to A25 going across the back of the property. The property is very large. You see it's 678,000 square ft of land. >> 68,000. That's an acre and a half. It's about four 102 00:32:41.679 --> 00:32:58.880 >> about 20 about maybe 30 acres of >> No, it's not 60 >> 67. >> Oh, 600. It's >> a big >> but a lot of it's wet. >> We're only going to concentrate on the 103 00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:15.760 upland portion where the house is. >> Yeah. >> So, we had the flag line put in here from flag 81 to flag 25. Beyond that is a perennial stream. So we flagged it from RF1A to RF14A. 104 00:33:15.760 --> 00:33:30.799 >> Okay. >> And that what we need to do is get the line approved by the commission to make sure that it was properly delineated. >> Okay. All right. >> So that's where we stay. >> And then and then later we'll come Well, you may build a house completely out of 105 00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:48.000 it, which we will. That's right. >> Which means if you're completely out of it, you don't have to come back. Correct. Yes. >> We do have a butters here. >> Okay. >> Lisa, um was this the one that we talked about? 106 00:33:48.000 --> 00:34:08.480 Um uh another uh monitor on the wetland for delineation. >> Here it >> Oh, yeah. Here it is right here. Okay. Okay. Just so the people here for this understand what's going on is um we 107 00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:24.480 requested peer review. So we want help looking at that wetland for this property. Feel free to come look at the plan if you want to show us. But um so we need a consultant to come 108 00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:40.399 out on our behalf that the applicant pays for to look at that and make sure it's accurate. So that's the stage we're at at this point. So we have a couple of proposals and we're just talking about it. 109 00:34:40.399 --> 00:34:57.599 >> I'd like to bring up the uh what I pointed out. Uh there are five holding areas in that in that subdivision. Okay. Before you do that though, we just have to finish here. >> Discuss it here. I will call for uh uh 110 00:34:57.599 --> 00:35:16.480 input from the audience. >> Step up to the podium then. >> You're welcome. You're welcome. I for sure this >> we we won't leave you out. >> Uh okay. All right. Um so Lisa, we've sent out to uh to get what more than one 111 00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:32.400 uh um >> Yep. West Samson's came out to be 6,470 I believe or I might be off maybe >> 600 we got the idea six >> and we have another one here that which 112 00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:48.800 you saw. Which one would you uh like? >> I don't I don't think he fixed it. >> No, no, I'm just being funny. I'm being funny. >> Okay. >> Because I I know which one. >> You're being really funny tonight. laugh or you cry. 113 00:35:48.800 --> 00:36:07.240 >> Okay. Well, we do have a second uh uh bidding uh from uh uh Nova Environmental Consulting uh at 2650. >> So, you want to go with six other go with the lower one. 114 00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:25.200 >> I'm sure you I think you have probably worked with her. >> She is excellent. >> Okay. All right. So, that that'll be uh uh might to go into 53G >> and uh um we'll give her the go ahead to 115 00:36:25.200 --> 00:36:41.200 come in. >> Okay. >> Okay. Um >> do you guys have any questions? >> Okay. Questions? Um are you are you set? >> I'm also >> Okay. Any questions from the audience on this property on Courtland Road? Sir, 116 00:36:41.200 --> 00:37:03.119 come up to the podium. Please state your name. Yeah. Give us your social security and your bank number. >> Okay, Bob. Okay. I live at 2667 Courtland Road. >> Yes. >> And uh there are covenants uh for the 117 00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:20.400 properties that were Butters. >> Yeah. >> Uh I've had a look at this where directly it does not affect me. Um the land on the furthest south in the properties 118 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:37.760 of the drainage system there was I saw a road that was put in because twice a year uh we have to get that mitigated the the any overgrowth or anything uh can't be o 119 00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:52.960 all overgrown so we have to maintain that that's the only one in the 85 has no direct access to the street. They made a they made a street. So, okay. So, 120 00:37:52.960 --> 00:38:09.119 what is the uh what is that? Uh >> the wrong. >> No, this is Oh, >> where is this? Where >> he moved around? >> Oh, he moved it. >> Oh, that's why the other one had another um 121 00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:24.480 >> Yeah, it's right there. >> Oh, he moved. Okay. Can I have that map back, sir? Um Um because you said that there's a a a pathway. Oh, here it is right here. Existing cop 122 00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:42.560 path. So, what is the purpose of this cart path? >> What he's talking about is this. This is the access right here to the >> That's what I'm talking about. And this one has no frontage. Well, it's got 50 ft of front here to get to the potential 123 00:38:42.560 --> 00:38:57.839 basin. >> Okay. But we Okay, we are dealing with with this lot here which does not infringe upon that that uh >> actually we're dealing with delineation only. We're not 124 00:38:57.839 --> 00:39:14.079 >> Yeah, that's all we're dealing with. >> We're dealing with Okay, >> that's the only thing we're dealing with is >> so plant, soil, and water. That's it. this green line and what what um okay what's going to have to happen is Mr. 125 00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:32.480 Baraby's uh client will put money into a fund. We are going to have another botonist come in and say these flags are right or they should be moved one way or the other because there's 126 00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:50.720 some inaccuracies. Most of the time, uh they're either accurate or very close to accurate. And that's all we're doing. We're not we're not we're this is not up for building a house. This is not up it's only to say is this line accurate. 127 00:39:50.720 --> 00:40:06.160 So if you were to go out there you'll see flags in the field. >> Correct. >> That's all that's all this person is going to do. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Y um will that be discussed at any point or that's >> well if they're going to build a Okay. 128 00:40:06.160 --> 00:40:22.560 >> So they come in with front front uh trucks the That's >> this is this is their right away here. >> So this is this is the property line. This is >> nothing to do with here. Nothing. And if they put a house over here and they're 129 00:40:22.560 --> 00:40:40.079 going to be um this is the stream 200 ft away from here. We won't see him again. he will just get his building permits and go ahead and uh if he were to try to put it here then he would have to come to get approval and we would want 130 00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:58.240 protection of the buffer zone. >> But I I would assume with all this property he's going to put the house somewhere over here and he's never going to see us again. >> Okay. >> He doesn't like us. >> Okay. 131 00:40:58.240 --> 00:41:16.720 All right. Um Okay. Is there any uh questions from the audience? Okay. Um a motion to have uh no um Nova Environmental Consulting uh do the 132 00:41:16.720 --> 00:41:34.680 job for wetland delineation uh and to have the uh money put in an escrow account. 2650. >> So moved. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Okay. 133 00:41:49.440 --> 00:42:11.280 Okay. >> Okay. Uh, next on the agenda, uh, is to, uh, is a request for determination of applicability by Greg Feny for property at Zero Main Street in Dayton. Uh, work includes a 134 00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:26.400 proposed perimeter fence to be installed around agricultural property. Lisa, you have news for us? >> Yeah. Um, actually, it's right up here. I think he actually skipped. He actually skipped took that out. A lot of them 135 00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:45.839 >> get William Street. We got William Street. >> Oh, >> okay. Sorry about that. >> Okay. All right. Okay. Um, >> abbreviated notice of area resource delineation by from Joseph W III at Zero 136 00:42:45.839 --> 00:43:02.359 William Street. The request is to be reviewed and approved of the wetland resource area delineation. Um the application was sent out for peer review proposals. >> You get that Joe. 137 00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:24.960 >> Okay. >> Representing Joe Ma who's in the audience. >> Okay. Similar to the last job, this is the other side of the of the property. This is actually the property that we just looked at the far end of it, the far north. 138 00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:41.200 >> This is his access is from William Street and we installed with the same botist Chris Capone installed the flag line from B1 to B28. So, it goes beyond this property 139 00:43:41.200 --> 00:44:01.680 and that's what we're asking for is that that line be looked at and to be determined if it was accurately delineated. >> Uh, okay. All right. Um, Lisa, do you have a a second? Uh, 140 00:44:01.680 --> 00:44:21.440 um, >> yeah. >> Yeah. Yes. A second review proposal. >> Yeah. >> Um Bob, on the last one, um I I I gave you one number. I don't know 141 00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:42.520 if you want the Nova to come and make a presentation on your behalf on whatever is happening. >> Only only if the board wants it. I mean, most of the time the consultant responds. unless the board 142 00:44:44.960 --> 00:45:01.520 >> I think as long as she can review it and let us know if it's right or not. Sometimes they recommend moving flags, deleting flags and connecting flags. So if she us something in response that would be fine. Again, we have uh two uh 143 00:45:01.520 --> 00:45:16.880 uh prices uh for from different uh hosts. Uh Lisa, what was West? >> It was the same as the other one was 60. Do you remember the number? >> 67 and change it. >> 6740 144 00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:36.960 >> and Nova Environmental is 1950. Uh we are happy to have uh Nova Environmental And again, if you want her to come, uh, but we wouldn't require it. Uh, we have 145 00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:56.880 done, uh, for for 20 years with Noah. We have so >> Yeah. And, um, very accurate and um, okay. Anyone in the audience have any questions about Okay. So, 146 00:45:56.880 --> 00:46:18.480 >> can you state your name and address for the record? If you want to go up this in the minutes can hear it. >> Yeah. Hi, Alan Carvalo from 2669 Courtley Road out of uh Curiosity. I know you guys mentioned for the previous 147 00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:35.040 item that there's no project yet, but uh on this one for the Williams Street property, is there any project any revision of what's the development on the area yet? >> No, this is just a this is just to 148 00:46:35.040 --> 00:46:52.240 determine the wetland line. >> That's all. There's nothing >> about what he's going to do with it or what's going to happen. So, as I told Bob, uh the agent will just check this is the lot. I'm going to 149 00:46:52.240 --> 00:47:09.359 walk look at every one of these flags and say, "Are the flags in the accurate location?" Uh if they are good, if they if she said, "Well, we're going to move it five feet this way or this way." Uh you know, that that'll be done. And then 150 00:47:09.359 --> 00:47:26.880 if if a house is built over here, uh 100 ft away, 200 ft from here, they don't have to come by to see us. >> And the the radiation happens only one side of the street or >> um >> Yeah. I mean, they're only working from here. 151 00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:45.280 >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, just over here. Anyways, there's the buffer zone from the center line of the stream. >> Yeah. Well, I say >> because uh it's too close to do 152 00:47:45.280 --> 00:48:02.000 anything, you know, in here. So, you only got >> Okay. 30 some ft. So, >> so I mean it's uh for us this is a very cut and dry uh uh are the flags accurate and then if you work within a certain 153 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:16.720 distance you have to come back. If you don't uh you don't have to. >> Okay. Appreciate. >> All right. Uh anyone else? >> Thank you. >> Is there a motion for uh starting up a 154 00:48:16.720 --> 00:48:33.040 53G account with uh uh Nova Environmental? >> So move. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> I >> Okay. So Nova Nova will probably come on one day. Do both of them. She won't 155 00:48:33.040 --> 00:48:52.160 until it's it needs to be funded. >> So once it's funded and I receive a W9, then the process starts it's local government. So you know you turn in a check and it could be a week or so before >> it gets deposited 156 00:48:52.160 --> 00:49:26.480 uh yeah or upstairs to the treasurer's department if I'm not there. Police officer. >> Okay. Okay. Uh so you're you're all set with um what has to be done, right, Bob? 157 00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:56.000 >> Okay. Oh, yeah. You need to actually leave the um >> I will forward on Tuesday. I can forward you the proposals. We're not open again until Tuesday. And 158 00:49:56.000 --> 00:50:14.079 there's going on with the email. >> But yeah, you just make the time the check payable to the town of D and I'll need a W9 at the same time. >> W9. >> Yeah, you go online. The federal W9 159 00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:38.960 with your taxayer ID, I believe. All right, let let us uh move on. Uh now we will go to um an RDA re re request application from Greg Feny Zero Main Street. A portion of 160 00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:57.720 the work is in the regulated wetlands and you have a notice uh on that correct Lisa. >> Yeah, it's right in front here. >> Okay. Oh, thank you. Thank you for having to do that. 161 00:51:19.040 --> 00:51:35.760 Okay. Uh, on behalf of the Feny brothers who own the property, I Group Incorporated is writing to update you on the status of the current request for determination of applicability. After careful consideration, the owner 162 00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:52.640 would like to withdraw the application which is dated uh 4726. This package includes plans for the installation of a firm fence to support agricultural activities. The owner believes it would be more efficient and beneficial to all town departments to 163 00:51:52.640 --> 00:52:06.400 develop a master plan for the property rather than proceed on a on a peacemail basis. >> Okay. So, um this is withdrawn. The application is withdrawn. I think we 164 00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:23.359 have uh no uh um further discussion on this item. >> Um no, not at the moment. I just um want to confirm next week that they have stopped even though we signed off on the building permit that they have stopped 165 00:52:23.359 --> 00:52:39.599 putting the fence up. >> Okay. Though they started >> cuz they >> Okay. >> We got to go back out there. Okay. >> I mean, you know. 166 00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:57.359 >> Okay. Next is uh on the agenda is a request for a certificate of compliance at 418 Hot Street. Um looking for a partial certificate of compliance. 167 00:52:57.359 --> 00:53:13.680 Um okay. Uh, okay. Junior, would you state your full name please for the audience? >> Junior De Lima. >> Okay. Uh, and you are requesting a partial 168 00:53:13.680 --> 00:53:29.440 certificate of compliance. Now, we have been out to your property. Um we have talked to you about the material that was installed, the flow into the 169 00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:47.599 uh wetlands that has to be changed. >> Yep. >> The the grading of the of the material and maybe the material itself, >> you know. Um, I've been up there again since since that last time and that 170 00:53:47.599 --> 00:54:12.160 material is I'm going to say pawnmuck uh a lot of clay which I which I said to you right in the very very beginning. Um, pawn pond washer this the engineers have some kind of a name for it. Uh but 171 00:54:12.160 --> 00:54:30.160 we said that if you had a plan that is solid, >> we would be listening to it tonight and maybe issuing you a a partial certificate. 172 00:54:30.160 --> 00:54:48.880 Uh as of now, we have not received any >> we received one item. I'm sorry. >> We did receive an electronic copy >> of >> of a drive uh >> the driveway >> the driveway send you guys a paperwork 173 00:54:48.880 --> 00:55:06.640 too the contract everything he required. >> So the wet so the wetland scientist sent him paperwork. >> Um >> wait who who is this wetland scientist? >> This wetland scientist is Steven. >> Okay. >> Sent him a contract. I don't know if you've engaged him with your lawyer. 174 00:55:06.640 --> 00:55:24.000 >> Yeah my lawyer will take care of that. Okay. So, does he have a plan in place to restore >> the problems? But we don't have the plan. We have to approve the plan. >> You never sent anything to you guys. 175 00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:40.079 >> He sent us the contract, but it wasn't approved by you. >> It got approved. >> What we're looking for is an um we sent everything to your lawyer and told her what? >> Yep. >> We haven't heard back. Uh, 176 00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:56.839 >> I'm going to call. >> Okay. >> Okay. You can call her and what you can do is you can we can continue this if you want until we can talk. >> How many more times is it going to take for >> until it's dead right? 177 00:55:57.520 --> 00:56:13.119 you know, I I mean, you know, we're really trying to work with you and getting this done because I'm sure that you don't want to sell a house and then 178 00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:28.559 things go so badly wrong with the grounds with whatever you get a bad rep and the person buying it doesn't want to go through unnecessary problems. Um what we need is 179 00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:46.240 a plan to solve the problem. One is that grade is so steep that no matter what happens every time it rains it's going to wash right out into the wetlands in the back of of your property as you face the house the back right hand side 180 00:56:46.240 --> 00:57:01.599 you actually got small sink holes developing. Uh, is it because material underneath is is rotty or the material underneath was of 181 00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:18.000 wrong quality? We don't know. >> There's no wrong quality. That's right. Buy the best quality I can. >> We We don't know. We We >> open reopen this and stop it again. >> But that has to be that has to be addressed. And 182 00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:34.240 >> Steve, you say you already talked to you guys. Steve talk to us. But what we were looking for like >> I approve I already give the check for the >> I told >> like he said you guys want to hold this stuff. >> I told require for you guys a partial payment. >> I told I told the attorney Mrs. Sanders 183 00:57:34.240 --> 00:57:50.960 today uh not today when I spoke with her on Monday or Tuesday we spoke >> exactly and it was all in the email what we needed. So you needed an asker route. You basically need to set up 184 00:57:50.960 --> 00:58:05.920 assurance that when you sell, >> right? When is the next >> unless you don't want to sell it yet. >> I mean, >> you know how much money invests us? You guys kill me. You >> You're talking about almost a million dollars out there. 185 00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:21.839 You hold me another project. 14 launch. >> The project has >> I'm going to figure I'm going to my time. >> May 21st. >> May 21st. But >> May 21st. The chairman and I already spoke about this. >> Okay, listen. My lawyer handling this stuff to you. 186 00:58:21.839 --> 00:58:36.240 >> Just listen for a moment, >> Junior. We spoke about this. We We were hoping we could add a meeting for you. We're willing to add a meeting for you. >> We're going out of our way. See these right here? 187 00:58:36.240 --> 00:58:52.640 We don't get paid for anything. >> And you've been 18 how many times? >> A lot. and and we're willing to have an extra meeting >> to give you additional time. >> You guys go for have another meeting and pay you guys for the time and I have no 188 00:58:52.640 --> 00:59:08.000 problem for that. >> Okay. You need a plan that we can accept >> and you need to kill me cuz you're supposed to see the plans because I talked to him yesterday. He tried to call you but he say you off yesterday and it's supposed 189 00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:23.520 to plans cuz I tried call you yesterday but everybody said you off. I was only in in the morning. >> Um, so >> if you know that this stuff's going to happen, I want to be come over here cuz I got surprise. >> Well, everything was outlined. I can 190 00:59:23.520 --> 00:59:38.240 read the email I sent to your lawyer. >> I know the lawyer talk to Steve. Steve, I give it a check. >> But it wasn't just Steve. It was the site work that needs to happen to stabilize the areas above the wetland because right now that site the way it 191 00:59:38.240 --> 00:59:57.520 is graded and it's not stabilized and we've got sink holes. >> You guys see this before? You know this last night? >> Hey, does his attorney have a list? So that list, they can just go right down 192 00:59:57.520 --> 01:00:13.599 that list and then we can have a meeting if they get if they just go down the list, right? >> Yeah. >> Um we were hoping that we could sign off on the driveway, but um >> the driveway don't solve anything. I ask you for guys for partial payment. >> Yeah. 193 01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:32.240 >> The bank going to hold $100,000 hold. What am I going to do? >> You guys going to kill me. The house of most whatever decision you guys decision >> the property has a order of condition. >> If you guys you have a house over there before 194 01:00:32.240 --> 01:00:49.839 you have a house over there have the old s over there. >> You see that they they've got a set of rules that they hold our feet to the fire on. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> And we're supposed to >> So if you if you can help with this just >> No, definitely do. But you know How long 195 01:00:49.839 --> 01:01:04.160 they deal this stuff right now? Everything's all set before. Now the last minute. >> It wasn't all set. >> Please. >> I wish. >> Please. That's fine. You do this for everybody in this town. >> It it wasn't. >> I'm the I'm not the only one. >> You're not the only You're not getting 196 01:01:04.160 --> 01:01:21.520 picked on. You had You had conditions. You had things to follow. If it didn't work out, it's not us. >> I don't see you. >> It's not your wife. We'll go over, we'll check it off, and 197 01:01:21.520 --> 01:01:38.319 we'll approve you. >> This is the letter from SFG. And then this is the order. And the order was issued to you when you got your permit, which was back in June of 198 01:01:38.319 --> 01:01:55.839 24. We had four five growing seasons since then where we could have taken care of the wetland related issues but now we have a problem with the slope. Um we are okay with the location of the 199 01:01:55.839 --> 01:02:10.480 driveway. You do not need to move the driveway driveways right here. We did look at the driveway. Tom Ferry and I take the guys do the driveway. You say you okay for the driveway. But anyway, my situation 200 01:02:10.480 --> 01:02:29.359 all can do for a guy partial payment >> for these people moving the house. >> You mean partial certificate of partial? >> That's the need. You guys need to hold some money. I give the check for you guys. >> The lawyer didn't seem to think the partial was going to get you. He's going 201 01:02:29.359 --> 01:02:44.559 to get >> it will the partial will get you the sale. >> Yes. >> Okay. I think we >> we need to talk I think we need to talk to our lawyer a little bit to figure out what our game plan is with it and then 202 01:02:44.559 --> 01:03:00.079 we'll have them communicate. Does that work? >> We don't want to get it let it go too far because then we'll be out of the growing season. The growing season ends June 15th. We want to get this done. 203 01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:15.280 It would have been good if it was done in the fall, >> you know. I I mean, and that material that is there. >> I I don't I don't know what you really call it. It's an awful lot of clay and 204 01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:36.480 uh and I call it pawnmuk. Um I don't know if what's going to grow, if anything, in that. I mean, the other day I was even afraid to walk on it, thinking that there was so much clay that I was gonna slip and break my leg. >> I mean, and then the slope is so is so 205 01:03:36.480 --> 01:04:00.160 steep. Um, you know, you went rogue, you built what you wanted to build and you deviated from the uh the uh the wetland directions, the order of conditions. uh you know I don't know if u if I 206 01:04:00.160 --> 01:04:17.720 should ask you guys if you want to give a a partial certificate of compliance. >> There's a few there's a few things on here that should be prepared to I know I know um 207 01:04:41.200 --> 01:04:58.559 You know, I I mean, uh, we h we have to see what the contractor is going to do. We just can't say, "Hey, go do it." because then he's going to be doing what he wants to do rather than what is going to be in the best interest 208 01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:15.119 of the environment. Now, I know you didn't have much time to get somebody, but uh that's what we had talked about. And like I say, uh uh if we have to meet uh in a couple weeks, that gives you a little more time. And 209 01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:36.799 hey, I'm sorry if uh if someone who wants to buy the house is hindered by it. I I feel bad for them. I really do. Okay. Um let me just uh ask Oh, did you have anything to say? >> All right. >> No. Okay. 210 01:05:36.799 --> 01:05:56.400 Uh, is there is there a motion to issue a partial certificate of compliance or a full certificate of compliance? No motion is made. We will continue your request 211 01:05:56.400 --> 01:06:12.000 and get us the information and we'll work on it. Now, that's going to mean a plan that we can say is going to work. >> That's the one that's >> and and and I don't know if if that 212 01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:28.319 happens if you have to have money into an account, which would probably be in the hands of the lawyer, you know? I mean, if you just say, "Hey, I got the money." Uh, it's not going to cut it. It's going to have to be in someone's hands to deal with this. But 213 01:06:28.319 --> 01:06:45.200 someone someone also has to do the site work. So like Stephen does the plan and the seed I think but he doesn't do >> the work >> right before >> I got a couple companies that can do this. Okay. You told me that >> because right now because if the money 214 01:06:45.200 --> 01:07:00.720 goes if you have a plan and the money goes into the account and we give you the certificate partial that's the partial certificate of compliance you you the house is sold but then those other people are going to have to have the work done but they will take the 215 01:07:00.720 --> 01:07:17.039 money from that account. >> That's what you have to do. The lawyer going to hold >> that's what we're saying. >> That's what he told you. >> That's why I was surprised your lawyer didn't call again. lawyers is already tried calling you pick up the phone. >> No. Well, she didn't leave a message. She didn't >> I call you so many times. 216 01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:33.599 >> She didn't email me back either. >> I'm only part time. I only >> going to hold that market. That's the way you do business. No, take the money go away. That's going to hold the money. You take the bank 217 01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:50.319 you're going to prove. If you don't have the money, you're going to hold the money. Why did they get a partial? >> I I saw that you tried to call me today, but I wanted to talk directly to your lawyer. >> If you guys going to move to May, you're 218 01:07:50.319 --> 01:08:04.960 going to lose the I'm going to lose the bite. >> There's no need for you to do that. Get get your lawyer to talk to >> me and Matt, >> the a lawyer, and and just put the thing together and we'll we'll get the thing 219 01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:22.279 on the the show on the road for you. Did the lawyer try to do? And the lawyer said, "Yeah, absolutely." >> She's she's on time. So, >> I was in the email. >> She emailed me back. Thank you. She received all the information, but then I didn't hear from her again. 220 01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:40.159 >> All right. I'm going to talk to people. >> Okay. A plan and then it's going to have to and a plan which is acceptable because that that grading is going to be cut. Uh I'm sure that a lot of top soil is going to have to I call top something 221 01:08:40.159 --> 01:08:56.880 or other uh that you have there's got to be removed with real low >> swale in the front yard there. It's all silted in >> and those and those sink holes in the back. I I'd like to know what what's what's causing that. >> But we need to get the site stabilized. 222 01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:13.679 That's the biggest issue. That's what we talked about. >> Okay. because that's just going to run over and if that stuff slips and ends up in Hot Street, uh uh people aren't going to be happy campers out there. 223 01:09:13.679 --> 01:09:38.560 Okay. All right. >> Monday's a holiday. >> I'm here with this stuff. I don't want to get all this stuff. position one order 620 25 and another 224 01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:57.120 one 11425 and I would say complaining >> I I don't want to get into >> I know I know >> I don't either but this isn't our fault >> no it's not and I told him that >> it's definitely not my fault for 225 01:09:57.120 --> 01:10:22.400 everything. I realize that >> I can't answer every single call. And he did try to call me yesterday and today, but what am I going to say to him? The same thing I've said over and over again. I can't keep repeating myself. >> Okay. Okay. 226 01:10:22.400 --> 01:10:47.760 >> That that that was very timely. Yeah. >> Okay, let's let's go on. Let's see if we can get uh done with this rather quickly. >> Oh, we have a young gentleman here. Maybe he wants to become part of the commission. >> Needs another job. 227 01:10:47.760 --> 01:11:04.000 >> Um, okay. Enforcement Lewis Street. Lisa, let's go quickly with this so that we can uh get to our >> session. There is no update on that. >> Okay. >> Hot street. We just dealt with um 228 01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:21.360 Main Street. >> We have a restoration plan and they withdrew their application to design a master plan. So that one's on hold. >> Oh, that's right. Okay. So that's Beanie. >> Okay. Well, we have so many zeros. Uh 229 01:11:21.360 --> 01:11:37.600 zero Main Street, zero William Street. Okay. >> You don't know all the map and lots by now. >> Okay. Uh next is uh Maple Swamp Road. >> Uh so I received a request to um basically table this until the next 230 01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:55.920 meeting. >> Okay. Um Horton Zero Horton Street. Now I'm losing track. Which one is this one? >> 10 53. >> Yeah. 231 01:11:55.920 --> 01:12:15.360 >> So So they're uh they have gone built their this the this is the three houses, right? >> Okay. You knew that. Um they've built their basins and their swailes and their check 232 01:12:15.360 --> 01:12:31.840 dams. Um the sites growing in, but there's still some sediment that's escaped into the wetland. Right now, the storm water committee has made them aware and um well, I made them aware and the storm water committee has made them 233 01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:49.040 aware that they're supposed to be monitoring that. Hopefully, it doesn't get any worse and they can maintain their erosion controls. Um I think they probably need to add finish their piping to the lower basin, but um we're going 234 01:12:49.040 --> 01:13:06.480 to keep monitoring that one. >> Okay. Um >> got a new one. >> How street? >> Yeah, that one's a new one. Um they had done some, you know, this is Mr. D. Roza. >> Da. >> Yeah. Um he had done some regrading 235 01:13:06.480 --> 01:13:22.000 along the front and I asked him what he was doing if he could please install some erosion controls. He said he would install them. He was you know it took like a couple weeks. He finally got them in. Um he has hired a wetland scientist and I 236 01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:37.760 guess he's coming up with some plan of some sort. We have yet to see a plan. But >> but we do do we know what he's doing there? >> No. >> No. Is he getting rid of all the wood that's there? >> He did get rid of the wood. Um, a lot of 237 01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:54.080 loose material on top. So, it was a little I was a little concerned with any >> I think his business address is Berkeley. >> Berkeley. >> Yeah, >> he did end up installing the erosion controls. >> Okay. >> He wants me to do a site a site walk to go over his potential plans, but I told 238 01:13:54.080 --> 01:14:09.360 him they don't do that until an application comes in. So, >> okay. Uh other business the meeting minutes. Um >> yeah, >> let's uh go through and and I'll request for approval. 239 01:14:09.360 --> 01:14:25.600 >> Yeah. So what we have is uh Jim and I Jim and I reviewed them. I mocked them up. I have them in my inbox, but there's been a little email issue >> and as modified. Yeah. >> Okay. Um, is there a motion to accept 240 01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:41.120 January 2026 as amended? >> So move. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> The same for March of 2026. >> So moved. >> Second. >> All in favor? 241 01:14:41.120 --> 01:14:59.760 >> Okay. Uh, we're all set with bills payable. >> Uh, yeah, they're right here. I don't know if I've gotten to any bills this month. I know I'm a little behind and I apologize. I am a little behind on 242 01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:16.800 bills. I know I have some of yours. So, I I didn't pay any bills last month. >> Secretary, >> huh? How about the secretary? >> She didn't either. She definitely didn't. >> She or he 243 01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:34.000 >> Okay, so we're all set with that. Um, review, discuss, act, release funds. Did Did we send that letter to the select group to vote to release funds? >> No, that's not what that that release funds is supposed that was supposed to 244 01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:51.040 include for the 53G account. That's clo that's basically uh Mr. Eman. >> Yeah. >> So, you have to recuse yourself from this. I requested the dollar amount from the treasurer and the accounting department, but I haven't gotten the 245 01:15:51.040 --> 01:16:07.440 dollar amount. Basically, they're looking for that money back that they didn't spend that we didn't spend on Weston and Samson. Um, so if you guys would just vote, Jim can reduce himself. Just vote to refund refund the surplus. 246 01:16:07.440 --> 01:16:24.800 >> Yeah. Whatever that dollar amount is. >> I'll make a motion to refund the surplus. I'll >> second. All in favor? >> I >> Thanks. >> I didn't vote. >> Okay. Um potential bylaw amendment. Uh 247 01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:41.520 okay. We uh we today's a we have a reading of it today and then with and that's what our second meeting in two weeks would be to um to uh put that for a second reading. 248 01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:57.360 >> Right. Um, okay. This is already before the the selectment. Um, at our March 19th, 2026 uh conservation meeting, uh, it was voted to revise the uh, conservation 249 01:16:57.360 --> 01:17:12.560 commission bylaws. The wording for the proposed change is as follows. Shall the town vote to amend the town of Dayton conservation bylaw section 16 uh fees to include 250 01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:30.880 um uh directly beneath the section heading the following sentence. Fees paid under the section shall be credited to the town of Dyon conservation fund. So, um, we have a section and right now 251 01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:50.719 the the the town is getting the fees and we want to get the fees under our bylaw so that we can have access to pay. Um, okay. Um, then it says we would like the board of 252 01:17:50.719 --> 01:18:06.320 select. Okay. So now we're going to call this a reading to to change. This is one of our readings. >> Yes. But we have to do a legal notice. So I have to put it in a paper and we have to have um 253 01:18:06.320 --> 01:18:21.840 so we have to have a meeting prior to our next meeting. >> Okay. >> It has to be actually by the end of this month because if we wait until our next meeting that'll be too late. >> So okay. So, if we have a meeting in two weeks and and that's going to be the 254 01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:37.840 only thing on the agenda except except for I won't be around that day. >> Um >> I I can meet the week before. I can meet the last week of April. >> Well, we can do that. >> It doesn't have to be in the evening. 255 01:18:37.840 --> 01:18:54.400 Well, whatever you >> can be during the day. It can be anytime. >> I don't know. We only need three people. >> Um one, two. Can you make it during the day? You may be. >> Yeah. Depends on what day it is. >> Yeah. Well, actually, Lisa, we could 256 01:18:54.400 --> 01:19:10.080 actually grab Paul. >> We could grab Paul if you if you can make it fine. If not, we'll grab >> that last >> or what we'll do is we'll call we'll call you up. >> Sure. >> I'll call you up and you can vote via 257 01:19:10.080 --> 01:19:25.760 electronic. >> Okay. All right. So, we just need to set a date for that. >> Yeah. The only the only uh problem with that is if we get a plan uh from the Lima, >> someone can just 258 01:19:25.760 --> 01:19:42.480 >> then we'll have to add him to that. >> Just email it to me. >> I can print it. I can, you know. >> Yeah. And then >> you are like rather than a So, we're not looking for a plan like see if we develop the plan later. Basically, we're 259 01:19:42.480 --> 01:20:00.080 looking for money >> escro to pay Steve to implement this mitigation plan. >> Yeah. >> But we don't know how much money is going to be needed. >> Right. Well, we know how much Steve was asked. Steve was asking for 4500, I 260 01:20:00.080 --> 01:20:14.719 believe. >> What does the contractor want? >> There you go. >> Well, that we don't know until the plan is devised. and they have to send the plan up to a contractor to hire him, >> right? >> I think 261 01:20:14.719 --> 01:20:33.199 >> so. We would need we would need a plan and we would need money in uh the hands of his legal counsel. >> I think so. But we can talk. >> I think that's that can be in a letter going out maybe next year to his letter 262 01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:49.760 to his uh lawyer >> that that this is what is needed a uh a plan a contractor's um commitment >> commitment and sufficient money in the 263 01:20:49.760 --> 01:21:05.199 account to pay for it. >> Right. >> How's that sound, Matthew? >> Sounds good. >> Good. Okay. All right. Um, any other correspondents? >> Um, yes. 264 01:21:05.199 --> 01:21:26.800 Couple of things, this and this. >> I'm sign that. >> Perfect. Energy and environmental affairs. >> And then this Okay. 265 01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:44.800 >> Oh, this was the zero before I won this one. >> I'm sorry. Oh, okay. >> You were wrong. >> Um, Buffington. Okay. We have a request. >> We have a request from John Buffington 266 01:21:44.800 --> 01:22:01.840 uh for a significant compliance for his uh work on Horton Street. >> Wetland restoration. Yeah, his the his wetland restoration that the property that he got. Uh I'm sure everyone has seen that. I've been by there. We're all you're all set with it. I'm all set. 267 01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:16.719 >> Looks awesome, actually. >> Okay. >> It looks faster than normal. >> It looks Let's make a motion. Then >> Jack, are you familiar with it? >> Is there a motion? >> Hold on. Did Jack see it? >> Yeah. I've been by it a couple times. He did a nice job. Great. 268 01:22:16.719 --> 01:22:32.080 >> Yeah, he did. Okay. Motion has been made. >> Second. >> Good. All in favor. Okay. He gets his certificate of compliance. >> Well, it's not an official certificate. >> That's okay. >> But we can send him an email. >> Yep. >> Okay. 269 01:22:32.080 --> 01:22:47.199 >> Such a nice guy, too. >> Yep. Um public input. >> Bob, you're going to become a member, right? >> Uh yes. >> Okay. Bob, we're going to go into executive session now. So, you are 270 01:22:47.199 --> 01:23:01.760 excused. and our uh videographer will be shutting down uh as we go into uh executive session. uh under Massachusetts general law section 30 uh 271 01:23:01.760 --> 01:23:18.719 or chapter 30A section 21 A13 to discuss strategy and respect to collective bargaining or litigation if any if an open meeting law may have a detrimental effect on the bargaining or 272 01:23:18.719 --> 01:23:32.679 litigating position of the public body and the chair so declares u and I declare Okay. Uh, you're shut down.