Mr. Chair. Okay. This is the regular monthly meeting of the Day and Conservation Commission for Thursday, September 18 in the old town hall. This meeting is uh is being
broadcast via video and YouTube and it's on the internet www.ditton-mass.gov. Would everyone stand please for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it
stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Uh today we have uh uh three members present in physically and one on the uh
internet that that he will be here and voting as well. Um we know of one absentee. Okay. I have the chairman's address. This commission has been in existence for over 60 years. Uh in the beginning
of the uh those 60 years at least I didn't start that that long ago but um uh laws were not all that stringent. We saw the rivers flowing red and green and
as you know all that has stopped. laws have evolved federal, state, and now we have our local bylaws and we have become the enforcement of those laws. Um,
we consist of five non-stiped commissioners and our agent. Uh, we also have uh at any time uh one or two associate members. Uh we try to certainly try to do our job
diligently to protect the wetlands to preserve clean water and to uh do what is best for applicants and maybe those that uh uh don't apply but uh uh
eventually are forced to comply. Okay. So our job is protection and enforcement. Um recently there's been a certain amount of criticism. Uh an anonymous
person has done some posting and has made some very vile comments especially towards our agent who is most qualified and who works very very hard to do a good job and inform uh the five of us
who are the commissioners. Um, these accusations are false. They aren't worth toilet paper and the names that are on this
uh document, many of them are not town members. Um, some may even be false names and others are violators themselves. I'd like to see someone uh try to have a
policeman fired because they got a speeding ticket. If if enforcement is needed, unfortunately, we have to go after and try to get the land repaired regardless of criticism that is bestowed
upon us. uh uh we are here to help people help people to protect the wetlands to protect the people downstream from those wetlands or down gradient and in some cases to protect themselves.
We make a lot of suggestions. No one wants to come into Dayton with a brand new house that it's built in wetlands. Our job is to protect these people even though they don't know it. So, uh, uh, regardless of any criticism
that may be made, we will continue to do our job. Thank you. [Applause] And thank you. Okay. On on the agenda,
we have a notice of intent from Cal Rebello of Bell Farm Estates, Zero Milk Street. It's a 26 lot subdivision with associated roadway and infrastructure. I was asked to remind you that there are
unpaid taxes. So, at this point, we can't offer a permit of any kind right now. Just so you remember. >> Yeah, I'm aware. I >> called a couple weeks ago. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right.
All set? >> Yes. >> All right. Thank you. For the record, uh Chris Vandenberg with Civil and Environmental Consultants. Um you know, we've been before you uh before the commission a few times before. Um we just sent uh Lisa this afternoon um our responses are to our the second
peerreview comments by any means. That is not trying to request an approval by any means. It's more just want to point that out. Um it's it's it's really trying to get the understanding of um one of the comments that they provided. Trying to get an understanding of we can address we uh we understand all the
comments they have. We have no issue with them except one um and just trying to get a clarification on that either from Lisa, the commission or Weston and Samson themselves. Um and that is comment number 15 regarding the uh detailed wildlife habitat evaluation
regarding whether that's required or not. um based on our understanding of it. Um this is just from the West and Samson uh comment letter themselves. I know there's been correspondence between um Megan uh Megan Karns um our as Venice
environmental ed um Ed as a Venice who was out there through the whole ANROD process. So essentially uh you know we believe that it is not you know in the we don't know who physically made the the statement of whether it's required. We believe it's Megan since she's the wetland scientist at um Western Samson.
um but trying to get the understanding of like is it required is it not um our understanding of it is not required based on the understanding of um u the regulation and I guess that's really what we're trying to clarification on here so uh the the comment was that a
detailed wildlife habitat evaluation was required because we are working within the 100 foot vernal pool buffer however we are not um so that was kind of you know this kind of just shows the overall you know scope of that work This would kind of give you the um this be that was
approved back I believe in 2023 I believe. Um so maybe it's kind of a question for you Lisa of the Vernal pool area and how it's defined and uh that comment. I know we just sent this over like this afternoon so that was >> I haven't I Yeah.
>> Yeah. I know it was kind of a last minute thing. So that's trying to figure out um >> you know the understanding of it. you know, we don't believe it's falls within the the category of um a detailed wildlife habitat evaluation. So, that's trying to like get the clarification on quite frankly.
>> Well, we always like to see as much uh uh information as we can on the habitat, you know, uh uh you're going to be continued anyway with the information that you just got. I would like to see the uh full habitat review and have it
in Well, I guess our next meeting is October >> 16th. >> 16th. Okay. And uh >> I'd just like to offer that I I concur with your comments. I've personally observed box turtles in the vicinity of the project on multiple occasions over
the course of a couple of seasons and um I I concur with your comments, Mr. Chairman. >> Okay. Thank you. All right. You know, so Jim, >> you know, where we're going to be. >> Don't forget Megan is here to to present. >> Yes. I I I'm not forgetting her. uh you
know but uh yes I will let Megan speak but you know uh u we're we're going to be continuing it do uh that a final uh report on that on on the full full analysis and
>> you know we're going to do it right. >> Yep. >> Megan >> would you like me to go present or >> this specific issue? Whatever. Whatever. >> Whatever you want. >> To go to the podium, please. >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Um I also have a question before she does. >> Yep. >> The um I know the planning board has asked for a letter from >> Somerset. So yeah, so obviously even like we did everything soup to nuts. You know, I know you guys are still waiting on that and we're still waiting on it, too. So like, >> so what it is is a letter from Somerset
Water Department asking that this they don't, you know, whether they believe this project's going to affect the public drinking water. >> Yep. >> Yeah. You know, I think you're going to be good there, but it it's again, it's uh for our protection, your protection. >> Yep.
>> I mean, and this is important. I think your protection as well. >> Yeah. I guess you know, it's looking at like required versus not required. What checkbox does it do it? and like um Megan Karns, right? >> Oh, yeah. I had no idea you were here. Never met you before. That's why I had no idea. Okay. So, um >> yeah, I mean, if you could speak on to
it, like you know, this is kind of outside my wheelhouse. Um trying to check the box like, hey, no, we don't check these boxes and I guess, you know, having you here at present is fantastic. So, I just Yeah, I'll turn it over to you if you have any other questions, comments. I don't, you know, we um as the project team don't believe it's
necessary. We don't think we check that box, but like it's not up to me to say yay or nay on that. So you know if you could you can chime in or anyone else. >> Okay. Yes. >> Thank you. >> Yes please. >> Any larger project
uh Smith and Wesson do a peer review for us. >> Weston and Samson. >> Weston Samson. Well gee Smith and Wesson. Uh >> well you can see where my head is. um West and Samson
do the peer review and Megan from there. Go ahead. >> Thanks, Megan. Karns from Weston and Samson. I'm just going to run through it sounded like you guys submitted some responses to comments today. I haven't seen those. So, I'm just going to sort of generalize some of them to talk about the vernal pool one if that's
>> the only thing that we came in discuss. >> Okay. Awesome. So, just to reorient everyone, this is the site which is also shown on this uh plan set and I'll skip through that. Um, so there were a couple of comments
related to wetland replication that I'll I'll pass through right now. It's great. Um, and a few of my comments uh were also related to sort of just quantifying the impacts, making sure the right resource areas were being uh quantified and that
information was provided. If there are additional wetland resource areas to provide, how they're complying with the performance standards for those resource areas. Um uh so I'll skip through some of these because a lot of them are related to just uh clarifying what those resource
area impacts are. Uh one of the the comments I did have was just that the um the 25 foot undisturbed vegetative buffer zone is not um that's not being met. Um, so that's something just to discuss with
the commission. Um, because that is technically in their bylaw and it uh the project does not comply with it. >> Can you just see the numbers when you go down the list? The number which comment >> Oh, which comment it is? Yeah, sure. >> Thank you. >> Sorry about that. That was comment
number 12. >> Okay. Uh comment number 14 um is uh just totaling the impact numbers within local buffer zones as well providing that amount. Um and then I
know there's a lot of uh tree clearing or vegetation clearing proposed. So just sort of understanding what the quantities are for that and then if maybe enhancement plantings or replacement plantings uh should go in just to sort of offset that vegetation
clearing. Comment number 15 is I think the one uh that I want to discuss a little bit that's about the wildlife habitat evaluation. Um so in in the wetlands protection act it's
100 feet um within a vernal pool local bylaw extends an additional 100 ft from that 100 ft. So you can sort of picture it as 200 f feet from the mean high water line as being vernal pool habitat. Does that make sense?
>> No, I understand what you're saying. The reason why we don't we didn't feel we need it because we we're not interpretating the code that way. It says from the edge of the recorded wetland line like the amrad is the recorded ver line. So it's 100 ft from
from that and we're like 125 ft >> and and we're talking specifically for the appendix B >> like how does the appendix B say stretch out into the next 100 ft like
it's it's because we're within so if we go to the next 100 feet that means we're like 200 feet like >> correct and that is protected under the Dyon wetland bylaw >> the wetland the the I think that's the gr the wetland by
doesn't define that. >> So there's the wetlands protection act and then the town of Dyon has their own wetland bylaw which can um extend stricter regulations on certain wetlands. So they do protect vernal
pools an extra 100 ft. Um it is this is specific to the wetlands protection act. However, it's up to the commission if they would like to see additional information for it. >> Yeah. Which >> and >> the reason why those are protected the way they are, I just wanted to point out
it's not just for wildlife. It's for water quality. Cuz if you you know know about hydrarology that's the surf that's hydra that's the surface of the it fluctuates with groundwater. >> Yeah. Well, again, it's hard for me to
speak for Azena and stuff like that. he's the one that truly, you know, he's like some of the comments that she made, some of the comments that you're referring to have all been uh addressed even, you know, within the 25 ft. That's for the the crossing and stuff. So, obviously, we need to disturb that to
get across a little bit. Uh so, like everything's answered except for this one situation. And in the in the report that we have has uh a more detailed explanation on why he feels that the appendix B shouldn't be in play. And again, based on his clarification again,
uh we just wanted kind of like a black and white response kind of like I know we tried getting that prior to this meeting which um what we weren't able to. >> Yeah. And I'll just I'll point out right here on the form that you guys did submit it. It lists including habitat
within 100 ft of a vernal pool. So um >> within the recorded the the edge of the vernal pool. >> Yeah. So right here. Yeah. >> Yeah. So I think it was it was it's becomes down to this is wiring to me but
certified or doc certified or documented in my opinion is the blue area >> you know we are considering this the but the document is this is just the blue blue hatched area and that's where it becomes yellow
>> forcing someone. >> Yeah. Ultimately, it's up to the commission if they would like to see more information. >> But the I think that's what like the beginning either the gray area or mis some one of us misinterpreted because
the documented vernal pool area is clearly shown on the endrad you know that's prior to all that construction design. So that's the edges that we're working with. So the design is is going off of the edge of veroo how it's described in the bylaw. You know what I
mean? But again, I think I think I think in his response um is a little bit more clear than what I think we're trying to piece together, him and I. Okay. >> So, I think, you know, reviewing his response, it's just, >> you know, again, we're going off of
numbers and bylaws versus, you know, >> Yeah. Again, I I think in appendix B, it also maybe helped the commission understand what the wildlife habitat impacts are and um if after the project there will be plenty of habitat for
wildlife still on site or if there are certain things that will be impacted. That just sort of sorted out through that process. >> I mean, the other thing noted too, like I'm not trying to like if we were clearly within it, we'd be all for it and it would be done already. You know, I'm not trying to come up with an excuse
for not doing it. Again, we're just going off of what we feel the bylaws and what the exact governance are. The other thing too is just you know I said this to to my engineer like we are developing this over a very highly disturbed area gravel pit. So
it's it's not like we're you know we're cutting through an ancient forest where you know that habitat is going to be extremely disturbed but you know this is it is a pretty highly you know disarrange disturbed piece of land.
Um but I guess we'll you know >> answer I think read reading you know all the comments that here are pretty much already u handled we feel and I think she'll be agree with all that, you know, but it's just >> anything anything outstanding, you can
clean it up and maybe we can wrap it all up next month. >> Yeah. >> At least at least I I see it that way. Uh we'll see how how it uh evolves, but hopefully that'll happen. >> Okay. Well, >> all right. >> Well, then the whole goal is to wrap it
up next month, but without having a clear definitive direction on, you know, that question number 15, we're not able to kind of >> Well, Mr. Digits just gave you his I I don't know if the commission you want to vote from the commission, but Megan has more items too.
>> I do have a few that I can run through before we make that decision first. >> Um so we just went over those. Uh, comment number 16, uh, similar to a few of my other comments, just clarifying the impacts to resource areas and if any
other additional, um, state or federal permitting might be required. Um, but that'll be sorted out when the impact numbers are clarified a little bit. >> Megan, can I elaborate on that? >> This a nifties will be required for this >> if there's disturbance over one acre.
Yes. >> Yeah. Have you guys started any of the nippies permitting? >> No. Usually that's done closer to when construction is about to to take place. I think it's required to submit 14 days before construction, but don't quote me on that. >> Yeah. It's not based on approval, based
on work. >> Yeah. >> But you also would have to look at habitat analysis through federal resources too when you apply for that. So just keep that in mind. So that would be uh it it might all come back to you
if you don't do this habitat analysis. Now you know >> the the habitat if the habitat is uh done promptly. Uh uh what is what is the the review process on that? Is that a review from
you that kind of review as well? >> It's federal. >> There's an online portal you go through through the NIP's permitting like this. Yeah. Look at that. Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> And one other question. I know the other board's member did make a comment on his evaluation of seeing box turtles and things there, you know, like like we we've been trying to do this project for like four years already. We've been out there multiple times. My engineer's been
out there multiple times and you know, we haven't documented box throws on site or anything. So it, you know, like I I know um I it's tough to listen to that when
we're out there, you know, extensively to to do the right thing. Do the right thing. >> If you do the full report, that's going to clarify whatever needs to be done. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. So,
Megan, are you set or not? You got more to do. >> I still have a couple more. Sorry. >> Uh Comment number 20 also relates to just clarifying some of those impacts. Um and then um comment number 21, it was a little
unclear if ILSF has been calculated. So just I would provide just a general description on if it's ILSF or not just so we can uh check that box as well. Um, again, these new comments are just to clarify those wetland impact areas because it was just a little uh little
unclear from the new information. And then regarding storm water, um the concom may wish to um have the applicant provide a signature um for the elicit discharge statement uh just to include or as a condition in the order of
conditions. Um and then just the the one remaining comment was addressed um last period. So there are no real remaining storm water management comments and that's all I got. >> Okay. Okay. So, uh we're going to be
continued till uh October was it you'd say 16th, Lisa? >> 16th. Yeah. >> Quick question, Chris. Did you provide the illicit discharge statement yet? >> Um yeah, that was in the storm water report. Was that a comment?
>> That was a comment. either provide it or they could condition it either. >> Okay. I think we provide that's usually a standard thing in our storm reports. >> So you obviously have not seen each. >> No. Okay. >> I just forwarded it to her. What's I came this afternoon? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Be here.
>> Okay. Um Yeah. I guess trying to figure out, you know, like cool, we do the wetland uh the habitat evaluation, but like does that draw everything out for months and months and months at a time? Like that's kind of a big >> uh How long does it take? It's just a safe visit. >> You know, we're trying to go back and
forth like, hey, doing it, not doing it. Um, you know, Ed said he could do it. It's more the fact of, yeah, doing it. Uh, but, you know, someone has to review it. That's going to take three or four more months. Like, that's where the >> Well, of course, Weston and Sam, we're going to have Weston and Samson review that. >> I've never done one, so I don't know what it kind of entails or like what
kind of sub substance it has, but that's, you know, the big key factor here. um whether it's require you know being required versus what you know like you want and like that's that's the gray area so >> they can you address that to them uh whether it's now or in written form uh
tomorrow or something. >> Yeah, you you have the comments now I think leis just forwarded to me. So I mean like hey we as a project team feel we don't have to everyone else saying we do. So I mean obviously we have to come up with a solution clearly. Um, so it's more the fact of like yes, if we have to
do it, you know, what kind of like timeline time frame does that look like? Hey, we can provide you something, but like I'm sure it's not here it is and just check the box and now approve us kind of deal. I'm sure it's may not be that. >> It's it's not Do I need to go up to the mic? >> Yeah.
Sorry. Sorry. >> Nope. No, it's totally fine. Um, so the wildlife, the appendix B is similar to the appendex A. It's just a few more pages. is I think maybe like 8 to 10 pages. It's just a form. It's got a lot of check boxes. It's just going through all the different wildlife habitat that
is in the state of Massachusetts. So, there's like eagle nesting habitat, things like that which probably aren't you're not going to check. Um, so it's just doing your due diligence saying this is here, this isn't here. Our project's not going to negatively impact, it's not going to cut off
habitat for wildlife to move through the site, that kind of thing. Um, typically you do a site visit to sort of go look for they'll ask for like rocks and logs and trees and things like that, but um, from a review standpoint, it's a pretty
quick review. I'm just looking at it similar to your letter. It's not like a drawn out four month review process. >> Like I said, all your comments you went over today, they have been addressed today. So we'll deal with the attendance and we'll get
>> Okay, sounds good. Okay. So, we'll continue it till the October 16th and uh uh hopefully then we'll be all set. Are you all you all set? >> Uh what about Paul? Did he have any more?
>> Paul, he's not answering. >> Okay, he's all he's all set. >> Okay, >> awesome. Thank you. >> Good. >> Okay. Uh move continue. >> So moved. >> Is there a second?
>> Second. All in favor? >> I >> I. And uh um Paul >> Paul just said I just heard him. >> Paul was in the affirmative. Okay. Next on the agenda is a notice of intent uh from the Dyton Boat Works LLC and that's
formerly Shaw's Boatyard at 86 Main Street um for the proposed construction of a boat storage building and a per pertinent structures within 100 ft of the bordering vegetated wetland and 200
feet of the Tatan River. Okay. And we have a review from Weston and Samson. Um, yeah. Let me just make sure they didn't request a continuance because I thought they were going to show up. Um,
[Applause] one second. It's slow. Oh, there was a continuous request. So, there can't be any discussion. >> Okay. Yes. All right. I Is there a motion to continue this till October 16th?
>> So moved. >> So second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> And let it be known that Paul said I. >> It's 10:16. >> 106, right, Lisa? >> 1016. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. Uh, next is a notice of intent from John Paul Rossi of Zenica Incorporated at the Elm Street Muddy Cove Pond uh for lowering the water level of Muddy Cove Pond. The work falls within inland wetland resources
including bordering vegetated wetlands, land under water bodies, waterways, and bordering land subject to flooding. Uh, at this point there is no uh file number. Is there someone here to
represent them? Lisa, >> have you had >> uh No, there's no one here. >> Uh, they're not coming or >> um >> they did they did they request a continuence? >> This
might requested a continuence. >> They did. >> Yes. >> Okay. How many people came to hear that? Okay. Uh the request is there by them to continue the hearing to um
uh October 16th. >> They have they h we can't have any discussion. >> We can't have a discussion without them here. >> They they had to continue because they didn't turn in the application to D and we caught that. >> It's not about the if by chance.
They it goes away completely. Why lay in the butts it? >> No, we can't talk. >> We can't discuss it. Sorry. >> We'll get We will open it up to you. You know, uh you know, I said my opening remarks that we're, you know, uh uh and that's part of the fairness. We can't
discuss the issue unless they're here uh to defend themselves or uh you know, right or wrong. Uh that's that's the way it is. So, October 16th and uh it was a nice evening out.
[Laughter] >> Uh a motion to continue. >> You can always check in with me to make sure they don't continue again. >> All in favor? >> Thank you. >> Okay. uh a notice uh of intent application from Tyler Gu at 553 Center Street to uh
demo existing trailer home and construct a new 4 bay garage with associated parking file number uh 17-527 and Okay. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It's Evan Watson representing the applicant. Um
we're just waiting for uh the funding of the um fund for Western Samson review. Uh the applicant did ask me to uh ask the board if they could uh maybe ask Samson to review their proposal. Um we
thought the price was a little bit high. uh given the nature of and the size of the project um the drainage calculations that uh required for the um for some of the um standards in the storm water act
because we're within a uh coastal flooding zone. So um >> Megan, excuse me, Megan, could you hold up for a minute? >> Okay. Uh >> she said runaway before they ask >> part of your company. So I just uh he's
looking for a maybe a review of a price structure. Um if if you are involved in that uh uh or whatever uh you can address it with him uh in uh tomorrow or in the future because right now no
funding has been done for the peer review. >> I would recommend reaching out to Jim Rean. >> Yeah, we will. >> Okay. >> I I'll I'll reach out to Jim Reen. He's on vacation this week, but I can reach out to him on Monday. >> Okay. >> I just want
>> I just wanted to also note that I know you're going to be filing with the planning board and from it's my understanding that they will also be >> contacting Weston and Samson for a review. >> Okay. Very good. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> All right. Uh so I did bring a
continuence form. So I'd asked to be continued. Uh what's the date on that? The October 16th. >> October 16th. >> Okay. Um, so you you don't have anything else to say on this matter then? >> Okay. Is there a motion to continue? >> So moved.
>> Second. >> All in favor? >> I thank you. >> Well, we're not we're not settling anything tonight. Everything's continued. Okay. Uh, notice of intent application
from Daniel Johnson, uh, 2548 Horton Street for the construction of a bond. A portion of the work is within the 100 foot buffer zone um, and the bordering vegetated wetland and 100 foot buffer zone to a vernal pool. Uh, no
file number as of yet. >> Yeah, he has one. >> Oh, one just came in. Okay. It came in. It came in before. >> Okay. So, that must be uh 531 or 529. >> 528. >> 52.
>> 528. I wonder who will get 29. >> That's a good number. Good age. >> Okay. Okay. >> Okay. There it is up there.
Okay. So this is that go to right here must go to here. Okay. >> All right. So this is it right here. >> Mhm.
>> Okay. Okay. You ready? >> I believe that's what it is. >> Yeah. >> No pool. >> Now that uh no drill from the vernal
pool. So that's that's 150 ft from the high water. Correct. >> Correct. >> 200 ft. Right. >> So too much if you don't for me anymore. >> Go ahead. He hasn't presented yet, so you want him to present first?
>> Sure. Okay. Now, I get my beering on it and and know well where it is. >> Okay. I'm Greg Drake from Outback Engineering representing Daniel Johnson. He's proposing to um to add a 40x40 barn
to his property at 2548 Horton Street. Um the barn is proposed currently where is a gravel driveway and that is within as you're seeing and within the buffers of both a wetland and a vernal pool that's
on the property to the north. Um the uh well you should know the green highlights are the wetland the buffers to the wetland and then the blue is the um 100 foot extension from the um vernal pool and then the 2550 and 100 from
there. >> Yeah. So, >> um, so none of the work is encroaching into the 25 ft. No touches for either wetland resource. And we're also outside the, um, 50ft no build zone as well. Um,
Lisa came out to the site and reviewed the project and reviewed the wetland line. And this drawing here, she requested some changes on that. And the changes is we added a uh landscape infiltration basin to handle all the water from the roof of the garage. Um we
changed the erosion control to silt sock and then adjusted it so it everything is outside the 25 ft. No touch for both. Um added conservation signs along there and um also added an existing generator and propane tank that were put in when the house was originally built which was in
2020. At that time we no one or the applicant wasn't aware that where there were wetlands on that on that property. That's why that we didn't know. That's why that's right on that edge of the 25 foot. So I can open up any questions you may have.
>> Okay. So the land is uh you said it's uh existing gravel where the where the bond's going to go. >> Yep. So there okay so there's no tree removal no nothing there >> n >> okay you agree
>> um so the only question I have is the the rain garden um who's specked out so that whoever is building it knows how to build it >> okay
>> yeah we'll do that >> all right >> well where that's located is that the lower spot everything's fading to that spot Yeah. Yeah. >> Perfect. >> Daniel, do you like it or >> Yeah, I think it'll spots.
A lot of lot of blueberry bushes are wild around there already. So, probably blend right in. >> Yeah, I think so, too. >> I like came up with >> good. And it's not going to be deep. It's going to be shallow. >> Y.
So, we talked about, you know, because it's a big site, is there any place he could move this garage because then he wouldn't have to file at all with conservation? But, >> well, he's already filed and and he's not going to he's not moving anything. He's not he's not cutting trees. He's
not doing anything. Um, >> so this is >> the only thing that he needs on his property now is some uh some American chestnut trees >> next spring. >> The bees will bite that, too. I don't have any questions anymore.
>> Um Paul, do you have any questions? >> Okay. >> Do you have any questions? >> Good. >> Um I'm good. >> Okay. So, we'll provide um once they make the decision, we have 21 days as
you know. So, hopefully I'll get it done next week, but we'll issue the conditions, but you just have to let me know if you want to pick them up or would you rather mail them? >> Um, you can pick them up. My wife's still >> Okay. >> Okay, sounds good. >> Okay. Is there a motion Oh, is there any
questions from the audience? Okay. Is there a motion to uh accept the project and issue an order of conditions? >> So move. >> Okay, then >> second. >> Seconded. All in favor? >> I >> I
>> and Okay. And we got four eyes and I'm serious on the chestnut trees. Uh I'll be >> because you got enough land out there. >> Okay. >> I'm sorry. >> The beaches are Yeah.
Is that >> that's over there? >> Yeah. Um, no, I'll have I should have I've been watching the trees and uh um got the birds with the nuts uh maturing
now. So, next May or June. >> Okay. In a good way. Next one. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Just double checking. Did anyone sign in?
>> No. >> Okay. Next on the agenda is a notice of intent from Joanne Benton Court, 1763 Wellington Street for an addition to an existing garage. A portion of the work including 100 foot buffer zone. Final
number uh SE175 >> came back. >> Thank you. >> That's the second time she's done that to me. I think it was my final number. >> Sorry about that. Hey, at least that wasn't me. >> That's right. >> Good math.
>> Okay. Um some [Music] >> Can you bring that closer for them? >> Yeah, we got one right there. >> Dave and I are fine. But uh
not able to see. >> Thank you so much. So it's on the south side of Okay. Am I reading that right? You're only in the buffer zone by 5T or so. >> That's about right. Yep.
>> Okay. Um, and how much area you going to be using beyond uh the building? >> Uh, not much. So, I I can just present the plan real quick. So, uh, Evan Watson, W engineering, representing the
applicant. Um, so the site is about 5 and a half acres. Um, we have the mountains delineated on both sides. The Cole River is actually on both sides and, uh, we have a 200 riverfront on either side. Um, and I highlighted on
this plan in green, the BBW associated with that river. And the 100 foot bucker zone is this yellow line. There's an existing house behind uh excuse me, an existing garage associated with the house. Behind it is a small little garden and then a gravel
um area where there's some vehicles parked and some activity there. So, the proposal is to add this 32x 32 garage which will accommodate some of the vehicles that are on the existing gravel area. And then we're proposing to put
straw walls at the edge of the gravel area. >> Okay. So again, uh like the last project, uh you're not uh cutting trees. You're not uh >> No, we're removing her garden. I think she might be relocating it a little bit uh further away, but yeah, the
blueberries. Yeah. >> And she did uh tell me uh just now that uh to give her a call when the uh chestnut trees go on sale. I'll tell you I'll tell you though. Uh this year uh about 250 trees went out to
people in the community. Rehobith Berkeley Secon Gun Club. Um they're scattered. Uh again, uh the if you look out here, one tree looks sick, but I got two very very healthy looking ones with
lots of nuts growing on them. And um I will be announcing it probably in in April or May uh because they'll be planted sometime in late February and uh they go into the greenhouse. So they the
nuts are refrigerated for a winter chill >> and then then they're planted in the spring. >> I be love and bees. So that would >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So the only question I had at this point like you still have your That's great.
>> I know there's a soil stock pile that I put in these sun. >> He said he had to move it. >> He He could keep it there if he put, you know, some erosion controls, but it sounds like he wants to kind of use that area to bring the dirt in and out. So,
>> wherever he's going to do it, if if he could locate it outside the buffer zone, that's great. He said he could. So, that's great. Um, and then the other thing was just to double check as a reminder to check with planning board regarding building it because I know
that they they have to do site plan reviews too. >> We haven't done it through this. >> But I don't have any other concerns. >> I don't know. >> No, I I just looking at it I
>> do we have a motion to accept the issue and order conditions? I'll I'll make a motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. >> Mr. Chairman, if I could ask I have one other item after all the hearings just it was the extension of the order of
conditions for uh Hunters Hill. If it be okay to take that out of order. >> Um we have a motion to accept. Now this is a um Okay, this is on Let me I'm looking at it here.
>> Um it's on the next page here. is the second item down >> on the second page. >> Okay. Okay. On long build. Okay. Um is there a motion to accept that item out of order to um for the three-year
extension? >> So move. >> Is there a second? >> Oh, you Okay, I'll second it. Okay, Paul, we need a a a vote from you as well. All in favor? >> I >> I Okay, Paul votes in the affirmative.
Okay. Um >> I just got to find it. >> It's here. >> Yes. So, um I have a copy of it. >> I got it. Okay. >> So, um I think it's three years ago
coming up in November. Uh the board issued an order of conditions for the Hunter Hill project and uh November 17th that will be coming up on the three years. >> Uh technically the um permanent extension uh component of the housing
acts kind of automatically extends it for another two years, but we would just like to have uh an official extension from the board that we can record and uh so there'll be no questions. >> Okay. I don't see any problem with that. Uh uh >> no problem.
>> I want to make a motion to issue an extension. >> Move. >> Okay. Uh uh Paul, you going to Is you second it? >> Okay. He seconded. Okay. All in favor? >> I
>> I Okay. Thank you very much. >> All right. I'm going to have to call Paul's signature on Monday and I'll reach out to you next time. >> All right. Thank you very much. [Music] Oh, yes.
>> Have a good night. >> Thank you. That's all set. >> All right. >> Call signature on Monday. >> Great. >> Okay. Um, next on the agenda is a request for determination of applicability
from Antonio Duza at 680 Somerset Avenue. Um, a portion of the work is within the 100 foot buffer zone to wetland resources. Yes, my name is Antonio Duza. I'm
presenting u my uh one of my friends. He's trying to build a garage. His name is um Lynet Sylvia from 680 some. >> Okay. Wait. Okay. 680. Uh oh, I see. Okay. >> Country Hill
>> between Country Hill and was it Jennifer Way? Is that right? Is that I got the correct Jennifer ways. between. Yes. >> Okay. All right. >> And we're like 87 feet from the area. >> Yeah.
>> The wetlands are off site. Yeah. >> Offsite. Okay. All right. Uh No, I I I know. I go by that every almost every day. It's not that I look in there, but I know where you are. Uh is that next to the dog groomer? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Okay.
>> It is a dog. >> No. Isn't the dog groomer though? >> No. No. >> Nick just next door. >> Right. >> Okay. All right. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And um uh did you have a a plan on that at all?
>> Yes, I do. >> Okay. >> Want me to show it to you? >> Yes, please. Okay. All right. Um, we have um these are all the same. Yeah. >> Okay.
>> Okay. Specific questions are is it going to require any grading? >> No grading. >> No grading. Okay. >> Nothing. >> There's no Why there's no >> No. No. Well, I go I I'm very familiar.
I just couldn't place the number with the actual house. >> Yeah. >> So, how big is the garage? >> 24 by 26. >> 24 by 26. >> Okay. So, it's going to be right here. And I would just remind you to proceed
with caution and I would make sure you have your other permits from planning zoning if needed. >> Okay. Okay. >> And building of course. >> Okay. Are they going to need any plackets or anything like that?
>> That's off their property. >> Okay. Outside. Okay. All right. >> All right. >> 68. >> Yeah. Okay. You know, I I I'm looking there. I can I can see it on the map. [Music]
>> Yes. >> Okay. >> Um you have any questions? >> Not yet. Okay. >> So, we talked about erosion controls and he's willing to add erosion controls.
So, once those are in, contact me and I do have paperwork I'm going to have to give you for this if they approve it. Even if they if they don't approve it, I got to give you paperwork. >> Okay. >> I don't have any questions. >> Okay. Is uh there a motion any questions
in the audience? Is there a motion for a negative determination? >> A negative three. >> A negative three. Okay. Negative3. Okay. Motion is remaining and seconded. All in favor? I.
Yeah, Paul said uh he's not coming out as loud as he was before. >> Oh, much better. Much better. You're all set. >> I think so. >> Thank you so much, guys. Take care.
>> Okay. Okay, next on the agenda is a request for determination of applicability from Donna Dominoski of 647 Rebecca Road for a septic system
replacement and abandoned. Um, >> now is this to abandon the the old one? >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Okay. Bob Barabby, Prolled
Engineering, representing the owner, Donna Dumlowski. It's an existing four bedroomedroom dwelling. The system went through a title 5 inspection and failed. So, a new system is being completely replaced. So, we're going to start with
the septic tank into a pump chamber and then to the leeching field. the tank and the the light the uh property there's no wetlands on the property but off the property >> is is a wetland area so that was flagged
by a botnist I believe it was Chris Capone was hired by them he's put five flags in off their property and from that I'm showing on my plan the 25 ft no touch zone from the buffer line and then
the 100 ft buffer zone The tank will be where we're proposing to put it. And I brought it out past the patio. That's where the existing plumbing is. The tank will be 45 ft from
the wetland line. And the pump chamber, which I'm going to keep 5 ft off the tank, will be 35 ft off the wetland line. Both of those components are watertight and the piping will be grouted around
the pipes. Those will contain any liquids. From there, I'm going to run a force mane along the back of the property around the pool that's on the property and then out to a leeching field. The leeching field will be more than 100 ft away from the wetland line.
We're also in a flood zone. Not the 100redyear flood zone, but the tank and the pump chamber are within the 500year flood zone. So, a flood is expected there once every 500 years. The leeching
field where that's being placed is outside of the flood zone. So, like I said, this is an existing four bedroomedroom. We're not increasing the flow. It's considered a repair, but it's going to be a brand new system. Other than that, I think that would be
it. The field that's in there now will be abandoned. That system that's there now is already completely within 100 ft of the wetland. So, we're moving it outside of the 100 foot floods wetland,
>> right? Because the system is in the backyard, >> correct? Yeah, the system's in the backyard. We thought about putting it back there, but when we noticed the wet land line, we decided to do the per test in the front yard, so we put the system away.
>> Seems good to me. >> Yeah. The only question I had was there's no compensation needed for a septic system, right? >> No. And in this case, we're not going to be changing the elevations of the ground. So we're not filling in that
even in that 500y year flood zone. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And I just suggested posts and placards or maybe placards along the fence >> if there's an existing fence along the entire back of the property. >> Okay. So uh you would just write that with a negative determination.
>> Sure. >> That would be and and uh >> Yep. >> Does that work? >> Yeah, that'd be fine. Okay. Okay. Any uh comments up here? >> No. >> Is it online?
>> Is this a This is not an increase in size. >> No. Does it exist for a bedroom? >> What' you say, Paul? >> Okay. >> I said not for me, Mr. Chairman. >> All right. Yeah. >> Either of you guys have a a question.
>> No, I think he's good to go. >> Okay. Anyone from the audience have a question? Okay. Is there a motion for a negative determination? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Is there a second? Okay. All in favor? >> I
>> I Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. I'll be in touch with you guys with this. Thank you, Bob. >> Thank you. Okay. Uh Since the next item has already been completed, let us go down to uh uh
discuss review and discuss and act upon a request for a one-year extension for an article conditions from uh David Berdos for work at 2396 Pleasant Street,
a DP file number uh 17459. No one is here for this presentation. >> I I assume that you have visited the site and >> yes everything is uh um
is going as planned but they just need more time >> more time for the the dock. >> Okay. >> So they're working with the waterways division. >> Okay. to change the proposed dock that we approved. >> Okay. All right.
>> Um I suggest we grant the extension. >> Okay. Um anybody have a comment on just go ahead and uh is there a motion to ask your extension?
>> Okay. Paul made the motion. Is there a second? >> Second. All in favor? >> I >> I >> Okay, passed. >> Okay. No, we have Okay. I assume that. All right. I maybe I shouldn't assume,
but um Okay. Certificate of compliance we have coming up. >> Yeah. >> Holly 1325 Rebecca Road. >> Um >> correct. >> Okay. And that and that that you've been to the site and have viewed everything?
>> Yeah, that was accepted. Um replace Okay. >> And it involved removing several trees. Um the owner um wished to replace those trees and enhance 25 ft. So he did so.
Um it is in great shape. Dave and I have been there a few times. And it >> Okay. Uh, is there a motion to issue a certificate of compliance for file number uh 17-518?
>> So moved. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I Okay. Um, >> okay. Let's uh deal with various enforcements. Um, We take the pisel
here. >> Sure, we can do that. [Music] >> Anybody want to fly? >> Uh, see, Logan, correct? Okay. Um, I don't know where you are on the Prospect Street. >> Yeah, we're way at the bottom.
>> Way down. Okay. Um, let's Okay. Is there a motion to just take them at any order because uh most of these people aren't going to be here anyway? >> So move. >> And Okay. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay. All in favor? >> I
>> I Okay. If there's if there's someone else here that has to deal with one of these, we'll take you next. Okay. >> Yeah. We were we were there and we saw some um >> Oh, yeah.
Okay. Uh, going through the wetlands is a no no. >> Oh. Oh, yeah. I know. I I talked to Lisa about that. So, >> um, >> that's no longer going on with my kids. >> Okay. You know, it's um Okay. Um,
it would be good if you did some maybe planting of blueberry bushes where it where it was torn up or absolutely >> something some or some kind of uh seed which Lisa can can you know uh help you with
>> um but um you also have the stone wall. Yes. >> I mean it >> I'm Was that on the map or was >> it location? >> No, it wasn't even on there at all. So, um after the house was done, um you
know, I went to the building department. I wanted to put the retainer wall, talked to Jim. Jim said, "As long as you're in this certain height, certain thing, good to go." So, I went and did it and then um obviously I should have followed up with some more stuff on it, I guess. >> Okay. Uh, if you were to
give us something in writing requesting some kind of a waiver to your order of conditions. >> Yep. >> Uh, you know, and showing us where it is. >> I did I did drop off some um
>> Okay. All right. Okay. >> I did get that all done. The only thing we're missing is the uh roof run off. Yeah, >> that was the roof run off for the drains. She had asked that on there. That wasn't on there. Um >> Yeah, because you don't Yeah, you don't
want that to uh uh wash away uh uh any soils uh uh >> in the wetland above well above your >> um wall and or into the wetlands. Yes. >> Y >> you know both both one is harmful to
your property, the other one's harmful to the wetlands. >> Exactly. Exactly. So because we f they file D concurrently with us. >> Yeah. >> There's a D policy about allowing amendments. >> Okay. >> Because
so basically policy 85-4 I can give you a copy requires because it's more closer to the wild. Yep. >> The wall. >> Yeah. >> And I understand and I'm sure they get it. The wall is needed. We just it would
have been presented to us. >> Yeah, I agree. Trust me, I wish, like I said, I went to Jim and I asked him about it and he said, "You're good." I would have definitely brought it to you guys' attention. I wasn't trying to hide it. We want to >> finish it off and and uh you know uh if
something comes along along, you know, in the future, you're going to be protected. The wetlands will be protected and and all of that. >> Agreed. And mainly because it it is a structure in the 100 foot box and have 50 foot
bill. >> Yes. >> We have to require we notify the to do that again. >> There's no way around that. I I just I'm going be completely honest. I am out of money, guys. I've spent >> you know I just I'm really out of money.
>> The concern I would have allowing it and it's up to you guys but it's a structuring 50 foot. Now we have >> It's not a structure. >> It is not a structure piece. >> That's where you're wrong. >> Oh, I'm not wrong, Greg.
>> You asked us to put Rick wrap. I put Rick wrap and you tell him you said I wouldn't have done that. >> Okay. Both were there. >> Okay. Hold on. Hold up. Hold up. >> We do need the Rick wrap and we do need the wall. So, we typically don't allow walls in the 50 foot belt. >> Okay.
So we have that issue the bylaw >> if if if um >> so the bylaw requires like we were talking we've been talking about on other projects if you if you put a structure and you have to prove that you
don't have an alternative location for it >> but that would be on that form right that all the No but I'm saying that that request request that he would make with us uh would would be requesting a a waiver.
>> A waiver is a waiver from you. >> You can write it out. You have the ads built already. >> Yes. >> You can notify your butters. >> Okay. >> That's all we need you to do. >> Okay. Just notify them. >> Okay.
>> And then come to the public hearing. >> So I can work with you on it. >> You also have to send a copy of revised plan to D. Okay. >> According to this, I can give you a >> Yeah, I'm getting that in your car, so I know what it means. >> Okay. Um, yeah. Yeah. Because I I see
that that that wall is um really quite necessary for your house. >> Yeah. >> And u you know, other than that, other than that, you'd have a walk out basement. >> I mean, but that's no I mean, I got a walk out and it's perfect. The way my land is set up. >> Yeah.
>> I mean, it's it's absolutely perfect. >> But Jim, he'd be walking out into the wetlands. Yeah, >> it is tight back there. >> No, it goes right up right out to my guard. Um, you know, and and it's it,
you know, it can be it all depends upon uh how you want to do it, but but you've already got that in place and um so that will be the limit of your yard right there. >> Yes. >> It was a tight site to begin with. There were a lot of constraints.
>> Now, what do you have about five acres? 10 acres. 10 acres. >> 10 >> 10, you know, and and yet you're and yet you're fighting for space in there to put the house. >> Yeah. >> Um so you're going to have a lot of uh unused property.
>> You ain't kidding. >> So with that, we we work with people for abatements. Did you already try to do that? >> No. >> Okay. Because we can present this plan and we can write a letter stating how many acres you can have out back.
Calculate the acreage of wetland and you can get an abatement from taxes. >> Yeah, cuz my taxes are 14,000 a year right now. >> I'm sure. >> Yeah. Over $1,000 a month at paying taxes. So >> that's as I said, you weren't here in
the beginning. I said we're here to help people as well. >> Okay. >> Just remind me to write that letter. I'm write a note. There's obviously a lot going on. Yeah, I'm sure I'll have questions on this later because I'm not 100% sure
what to do. So, I'll be calling you about everyone. >> That's what >> So, yeah. So, if you could just like put it in a paragraph format of why you need the labor to our local. >> Okay.
and tell us what you you know that you added the rip, you added the wall and that you will restore the area >> right on it. >> Yeah. And then if there's any mitigation, what did you say? Some trees.
>> I got blueberries. >> I got a ton of blueberries at Reed's farm. I can take those >> and then you can pick them later, too. >> That's what I'm saying. quick. >> Yeah, but that land is too wet for chestnuts. >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Um, am I good to keep going with like loom and hydro seed and like keep moving forward on this? >> I want you to do that. >> Okay, perfect. That's my main concern. I got >> you stabilized. >> Yes. >> Yep. >> Okay. Uh, we all we're all set with that. Yes. >> Y.
>> Okay. >> Thank you for coming in. >> At least I'll be calling you this week. I'm sure I'll ask some questions. >> Okay. Thanks. >> Thank you. >> As I hop off, I just wanted to let you know that one of our colleagues in the planning board did inform me that the
planning and zoning board are working on a flowchart to kind of delineate the duties between uh zoning, planning, and conservation to make it a little easier for applicants to navigate. >> Okay. And if that's something that we could discuss at our next meeting, I
think that that would be helpful. And I just wanted to throw it out there and just just put it on there because one of our colleagues in the planning board just did mention that they've been working hard on that. >> Okay. And it is looking really nice so far. >> Lisa is showing it to us now.
>> So I just wanted to put that out there before the call. >> Okay. No, very good. Thank you, Paul. Thank you for for being in attendance. Uh it was imperative that you were there for for one uh in particular because we wouldn't have had a quarrel.
>> Yes, absolutely. Thank Thank you all. I appreciate it and look forward to seeing you in person next month. >> Thank you both. >> Well, we'll see you before then. >> Bye now. >> Bye. >> Thanks, P. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Um
no need. No, you just came to enjoy the uh uh >> that's it. Nothing to do tonight, so I listen. >> Okay. >> Uh which one? >> The last one. >> It's right here.
>> Uh Brook Street Solar. >> We don't have anyone here to represent that, but I did have a conversation with the engineer today. So, um Brook Street Solar. So, as you may followed a large area of
um disturbance on the south end of the site that required it was beyond the limit of work beyond the permitted area. >> I know there was a problem I and I don't think they're producing electricity yet. >> No, they're not.
>> Wow, that's a long time. >> They want to be. So, they presented this plan of restoration if anybody wants to see it. I'll pass it around or whatever. Just wanted to kind of get them to look at it first. >> Okay. >> And so, >> so here's all the solar panels that are
already in place. >> And they got all these uh all these panels are just doing nothing. >> So, yeah. >> That's got nothing to do with the town. That's National Grid. We're free and clear. That's National Grid. Okay. Conditions they have to
they have to respond to because those panels have sat there idle for so long. National grid has some changes and requirements. So, but >> okay, >> it sounds good. >> Yeah, I just want to kind of So, what they what they're proposing is an area
that's they're going to replant with 25 mountain walls, 25 northern high bush blueberry, and 10 red maple. Um, we're going to install erosion controls at the lower lower area and I talked to Nick
about adding and placards maybe around the whole site. I don't know because that was something we never had him do before. And then I also spoke to him about what about the other dead vegetation that was, as you know, required by the planning board, not us.
So, their goal is to get this running as soon as possible. And they said they will be planting all the So this is the trees and stuff that >> okay this is this is the this is ours and then this is planning. >> Are they going to miss the planning
season or they going to do this right now? >> Actually right now is now the right time now through >> they're just looking for our approval. I told them I'm good with the species. I'm good with the quantity. I just would like to see both someards and some seed
mix in there. And they said they'll do whatever we want. So we should take advantage of that >> feel ground plate from anything else that they've got to come back hire somebody to take care of it. Okay. We had so much
problems with this that was added as a condition. Let me put it that way. >> Wow. Okay. >> So >> all right. So that that's that's quite positive. Okay. Sure. Um, no, we're just going to go through the
list then. Uh, Lisa, I'm going to leave it up to you which ones you want to deal with here and and we'll just skip over all the others since since I already requested that people here, you know, we can go in any order for the enforcement.
>> Oh, okay. Yes. So, you guys agree with that plan? you don't have any comments, concerns, you want to see it happen, I can reach out to Nick about that. Um the first item, um we are skipping over because we're dealing with that.
Otherwise, um did get an update today. You guys should check your emails about that. >> Um second item, 247D, Pleasant Street. I believe we should be hearing from them soon about um
>> they were very receptive in that in their rehab. >> They are going to plan is that don't have to go through plan >> to replace those. Okay. >> Thank you. >> See you later. >> Have a good night.
>> Nice night out. So, we should be hearing from 2470 uh Pleasant soon about starting work. Um, same thing with the previous one, 2371 County. And then, um, 710 Center Street.
Um, there's no update. He was supposed to send photos, as you guys remember. I haven't gotten any photos yet. Um, he doesn't really email. >> 880 Hot Street. Um, we have received an email.
>> I should pull that up and read it for the record >> that just that just came in. >> Well, >> no, last week. Did you see it >> early early in the week? And we sent a letter or email saying that um, you
know, they said they had health issues with the person doing the work. >> Hold on a second. Um, they said they would have it done by uh, November. We gave a date in no in November, right? I I just used XX when I
sent it back to you, Lisa. >> Yeah. >> What date? What date was that? November what? >> 30th. But let me read the the the document, the email. But we said we would consider finding if it wasn't
started and they said that they had someone but >> well let me read it >> and uh Okay, you going to read it? >> Yep. It's a email received from Darlene Whitmore on September 14th to whom it may concern. Shift work and distractions
of life have delayed our ability to correct the project for our property in Diton. Starting with the engineer, there was a long wait to have him stake out the area to work. Come to find out he had fallen and broken his bones. This delayed him coming to the site to stake out the corrected area and sadly we are
also informed of a death that he had occurred in his family. After he came to the site, we went and purchased the material needed to correct the new fencing area. This is the cow situation. Then life took another swing at us. Two
men at work went out on paid time off. Disability work has a 12-hour rotating shift. And this has caused excessive amount of overtime being taken and covered that had to be covered due to state licensing regulations at the power plant. Just bad timing and
some crazy amount of extra work hours have added up to total exhaustion and the individuals that have been out of work are supposed to be back on September 22nd. At this time, we hope to get the project going. We are asking to extend the time given until the end of
November to be sure that this issue no longer is held over our heads. Again, we have purchased the material for the project but just have not had the manh hours or the ability to start sincerely dialing Whitmore and that's um and sincere. >> They gave a date of November. >> Yes.
>> And and I capped it at November 30th. >> So at so if nothing is done the job isn't completed. I mean, I'm just going to put some posts in, fence it off, and bring the animals up and then clean the other row. I mean, I have no idea how
long that that would take, but um I capped it off. They said November, so now it's November 30th and then we take action called the board will decide. >> Talking about what did uh
>> the email was sent to us. I remember reading the email. Did Did they say that they were going to start work by the 30th? Is that what I just They said that they would have it done in November >> in this email. >> In this email, they said
the individuals that have been out of work are supposed to be back to shifts come September 22nd. At this time, we hope to get to the project. We asking you to extend the time given until the end of November. >> So, okay. So we did extend it November
30th. >> My go beyond that because again I mean uh everyone's having uh >> when's our next meeting in November? >> October 16th. We responded on September
15th. Thank you for your information. I'll present this letter to the commission and they'll likely expect the completion of the restoration by November 30th. Thank you and have a great day. So, you know, the area of the cows, the cows have to be moved, the
area has to be seated, and then we're good. Well, the fence needs to >> Well, it it would be nice if they could get it done ahead of time because right now, uh, throwing any seed now, it's it's just going to explode in growth. This is the greatest time right now to
do any seeding. Best time, right? You know, now through midocctober. Um, you know, they're looking for November. We're we're accommodating them. Correct. >> Okay, that's >> that's okay. Um let's continue on. Uh
we'll get through this shortly. >> 1070 Smith, we have an update. Um the engineer was notified about um the earth disturbance activity and they are complying with their determination that
we issued by having um Zenith go out and stake out the erosion controls that was going to be done either this week or next week and they will contact me for an inspection if anybody wants to go with me.
Um, >> been out there nine times. >> 10:30 Oaks. 10:30 Oak Street. We're still waiting for posts and placards. I'm positive this will be coming to us for certificate of compliance soon. It looks good at the site is stabilized.
The septic systems in. We're just waiting for the posts and the placards and their request for COC. 260 Country Hill Drive. I think I reported at the last meeting that they wanted to uh for us to provide a list of native
plants >> to be restored and the understory. So I gave him a list of those and um some baceous aquatic vegetation that would do well in the pond.
Oh, I'm sorry. I did this backwards. 662 Somerset A was the one that I just updated you on. 260 Country Hill. They notified us that they had the conservation seed mix for that slope. >> Yeah. >> Dave, why didn't you correct me? >> I was going to, but you you got to you
got to it before I could correct you. >> Um, so 260 has the seed. They asked if they they said there's some Virginia creeper coming in which will stabilize it and they want to plant the seed. I said, "Go for it. It's the best time to
do it." So, that one's going to be off the list soon, soon as we see that established and stabilized. 2365 Elm Street. We've got a response with some photos, but I don't know if I was not able to open the
photos. Dave, were you able to open those photos? >> No. >> Okay. >> It was Google rights to those files. You need a password and username. >> Okay. Yeah. the um the property owner replied all to the email and the cable
was on it and I also checked with Mr. Ferry and he was not able to open the photos. Um so we will see for next month 2625 Lewis Street. Um the I asked the gentleman to to let send us updated
photos of the site, the disturbed area being stabilized and the dumpster being removed out of the 100 foot buffer zone because that is a wetlands protection act um requirement. >> Okay. You just you just triggered a
thought in my head. >> Yeah. >> On um near the boatyard, have those poles been moved? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. That's it. Okay, let's continue on. >> Okay. Um, they're next. Zero crops.
>> Oh, that's it. Okay. >> The polls were removed. However, I wanted to remind you guys that we asked them to seed. So, we haven't I I did reach out to the lawyer. I know we read it because I had the red receipt on. I have not heard if
they did any wetland seed mix and I haven't been back there to see if it >> Okay. Well, as soon as that happens, you will uh release them on the enforcement, >> right? So, can I just have a vote to release it now? And did you ratify it at
the last meeting? Did you guys >> We gave you We gave you permission to release it when those polls were removed. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Removed. I took pictures of it. >> I'm sorry. I took pictures of it. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So actually they they can um
>> get their release already. >> What about the seed? No seed for stabilization. >> You can still ask them to do it, but I I don't but we did not put that as part of the agreement. We just said removal of polls. >> Yeah, I don't remember the >> I don't remember the seed. Well,
>> but I'm sure they they'd be amendable to some seed there. >> Uh you know, give them that and just just ask them for a seed mix. Okay. Uh, native seed mix, wetland seed mix,
and then we'll lift the enforcement or Okay. Um, >> you're going to contact. >> Yep. Next week, town hall's closed on Friday. 1861 Somerset AB. I reached out to the individual.
He had not um contacted us for the paperwork. Um, this is the one where they added the driveway and it's um a contractor yard kind of area down there. 1861. >> Is that just north of Main Street or
south of Main Street? >> North. >> It's right behind 1712. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Oh, yes. Okay. Yes. >> So, it's in the flood zone. >> That's right. I forget that Avenue V is left. Okay. >> That's in the flood zone.
>> Okay. Um, I asked him to calculate how approximately how far from the wetland. He did have the wetland flagged a few years ago. That's why Dave and I were a little surprised to see that he was working in there. >> Um, I said file an after the fact RDA
because driveway is about 55 ft um off the wetland. There's no permanent structures, but there is a temporary storage structure. >> Okay. So, um, he said he's going to pick up the
paperwork and I left it at the town clerk's office for him. Okay, >> moving right along to other business. >> Jim, you can take over. >> Paul, didn't Paul write that up? >> I don't think so. He's extremely busy
with school and work and the kids, but >> Okay. All right. Well, I'll have to see him then because I thought he having the um information about warrant articles for him to write that up and put it on the warrant.
>> Yeah. When are those all do? Didn't Did we say it, Nancy? Do you know >> what >> the warrant articles? >> I know it's open right now. I don't know the ending date. Okay. >> We might have to have a special meeting.
>> Okay. Well, we we already know we we already voted to have a revolving count or to submit it on the warrant. >> Yeah. So, we just need the language. >> We just need the article uh the proposal
written up to go on the warrant. >> Right. We need the language. >> Okay. meeting minutes. Did anyone other than me have a chance to look at them? >> Want to look at what >> the meeting minutes?
>> I have not looked at them. No, sorry. >> I think Jim, you might have been the only one that I sent them to because they were in draft format. >> Oh, yes. Okay. >> Did you have a chance then? May 15th. >> I think they were they were they were good from what I what I recall.
>> Okay. Well, um I think there were just some grammatical errors, but format I mean content was fine. So, >> okay. Uh all the bills have been paid uh since the last meeting.
>> I have stack here. Do you want them? >> Paul's Paul's been signing them. Yeah. >> Okay, that's fine. >> Y >> that's fine. Um Paul did submit on the ser um he submitted red line um on the red line version he submitted some
comments. I know we discussed it and had the presentation from SER at the last meeting but we really should um I've been I've been swamped so we really should spend a little time on that.
They're looking for input. I think they're having a meeting coming up in October with the selectman who >> uh sir >> subdivision conservation subdivision. >> Yeah, October 6th. >> Okay. Yep. So maybe we should attend that.
>> Okay. >> So we can have a little bit more >> learn a little bit more about it. >> It's Monday. >> Do you know it's a Monday? >> Mhm. >> And do you know the time? As long as we got Monday 6, we can uh focus on later.
>> Let me see if it's in here. >> I think it is six o'clock, but I'm not sure. >> I mean, these people put themselves at night. Well, actually, the sle working has to come at night. >> Do you know who the email came from,
Dave? Um, I think it was a ton of date actually. >> Okay, >> Dave, do you do you know does Cable know when that meeting is? >> No. >> Okay. Well, let's just uh we got time.
Today's only the 18th, so we've got two weeks before that happens. We can we can find out. >> Only two weeks. That seems a little crazy. Till October, huh? >> Is it on the website? >> Yeah, let me look.
Okay. Can we uh >> go on to the application? >> Hold on one second. Well, anyways, we'll watch the we'll check the website for that meeting time >> and um I'll check my emails too when we're done with the meeting.
correspondence. Uh what you were showing us that Paul talked about this is the application for per test and all that. >> No, >> no, this is something different. Okay. >> This is different. What Paul was talking about was town of Dyon planning board
zoning conccom um application flowchart. So they updated it recently. But shouldn't the board the board of health has to be there too though because u for the perk test? >> So this is town engineer concom planning zoning. If I had a copier I'd give you
guys a copy but um >> can I just take a picture of it? >> Yeah. Perfect. >> Yeah. I'll let you pass it down to me afterwards. >> I haven't seen it. >> It's not out yet. >> Turn the phone on.
>> Take a picture first. Wait for my phone to come back. >> Remember we had >> I won't be here. >> That's October 6th, right? I'm sorry. This is October 6th, right? >> Yes. >> I I won't be here. Going for those stem shots. Stem cell
shots. >> You going to be the Caribbean? >> No, I'm going for the stem cell shots. >> Stem cell shots. Did I tell you about that? Yeah, I'm going for stem cell shots in my knee and my shoulder. >> All right. >> All right.
um correspondence. Otherwise, we have application for perk location tests and preliminary signoffs with the board of health. So, we are still um we are
getting some but not all. >> Yeah. >> So, we're still trying to make a little bit of progress >> but we're getting there. >> We'll see. Yeah. >> Okay. All right. communicating at least. So that's great. >> Okay. >> Um and I think Nancy had something for public input.
>> Yeah. >> Sure can. Nancy, >> you got 30 seconds. I might make it to bowling. >> Um, >> I wasn't here for the damn presentation or it got >> there was no damn presentation. It was
>> um I'm going to put together a damn report. >> Okay. >> Historical stuff. >> Oh, wait a minute. You're doing this under public input, not under because because the they asked for a continuence. >> Yeah, we can't discuss it. >> We we >> Oh, I'm not going to discuss it. I'm just going to publicly state. I'm going
to prepare a damn report that's going to start with the history and all the research that I know about that and I'm going to share it. >> Hey guys, listen to this here please. >> Okay, it will start with when that place was built and bring it right up to the most current dealings
uh I'll say the board of selectmen uh Bill Fett, Tom and I have had with Astroenica. I'll stop there. Okay. >> Okay. There's a lot of stuff people don't know about and decisions are being we're going to do this and I'm thinking you're clueless. All right.
>> But I'll take care of it. It'll be comprehensive. Yeah. >> It'll be out in the public and uh number one, it's going to be factual. It's going to be truthful, >> not opinion, facts. >> Okay. >> All right. Um you're talking about a flowchart
just Yeah. I haven't seen that. Um if there was a meeting when it was given out, I wasn't here. Um, as a matter of fact, I have been excluded from all of the meetings in here. We used to have department head meetings and the town administrator determined uh or decided
that there was no need for me to be there because I'm not a department head. But that's part of the exclusion of everything storm water when it comes to administration because we're on our own. All I want to do is I did have
conversations with the uh with Jeff Cavalo and the planning board about revisions that needed to be uh included. When you have a flowchart and you have an agency that is involved with inspection, site visits and in indirectly permitting, you got to have
them in there and storm water performs all those functions. So, uh I'm hoping I can get a copy of that. I'll get it from the the planning board office. Um, so I I just wanted you to know it's not that we storm water has not provided input.
It's just that I have heard nothing and Tommy has not said anything to me. So um we'll just continue to do what we're obligated to do under the bylaws. I will mention um Weston and Samson uh has just
issued a draft report that relates to the storm water program bylaws, regulations, so forth and so on. Uh it arrived at like 11:00 the other night. I have not distributed it yet, but that will be shared publicly because we've got to discuss whatever they're going to
recommend. Okay. And as a followup to the lady that was at your meeting um that talked about bylaw amendments and changes to your own bylaws and she mentioned that stormwater had not submitted anything. Storm water didn't submit anything to Serpent simply
because we hired Weston and Samson to go over that. So it would be unprofessional to tell Serpent, okay, here's the bylar as it exists. Go ahead and change it. That's what Western Samson is doing. So, we'll share that with everybody once
again when we get the information. >> Okay. >> Okay. I I'm going to go back to one thing that that you alluded to um whether it was right now or on the phone with me a few days ago. >> Okay. >> Uh you said that Weston and Samson
did a report on Muddy Pond, Muddy Co Pond. Did that involve the dam structure as well? >> No, the the work they did was strictly testing for contaminants and every that
whole area and the three lots that we have already accepted, they all came back clean. >> Okay. No, I I'm No, I didn't know. So that when they do appear before us um and I just wanted to know >> um where we can go with that. And you
told me that an offer was m or a conditional acceptance was made. Do you have anything on that >> conditional acceptance >> by the town? >> No. November of 2020, I drafted we there
was an executive session, so obviously I can't go into it in detail, but as the result of that meeting, um, my two colleagues, and it was Brett and I believe Jack at the time, authorized me to draft a memo to the gentleman we were dealing with with all that property up
there um, at Astroenica, which basically said, "This is what the town is suggesting we do. Let's come together. >> All right. Could you All right. Let's just stop there because since we really kind of discussed what's that if you
could if you have any of those reports if you could forward them to me and Lisa. >> Okay. All the testing reports would be in town hall because Mallerie Arinstein was the administrator and all the testing reports and the discussions that
took place would be in that file. >> Okay. >> But again, I can tell you everything came back clean. um the >> Okay. Yeah. But okay. So, but that doesn't have anything to do with with their request and and I'm trying to be
cautious since they're not here, right? >> And I don't want to bring >> and so am I. But I will tell you this, the MMA newsletter came out just recently and I always scan it to see what the articles are and depending on
what it's about, I send it out to various town officials. You know, if it's about transportation, it goes to Tom as usual. There is an article in there right now that has announced that the governor has uh and the legislature has approved $1
million for dam repairs and replacement. Everyone's talking across the board about taking dams down. No, the rest of the story is there is grant money available to do engineering studies to determine if a structure should be
repaired or taken down and determine the purpose. State money will pay for that. What state money will not pay for is whatever you're going to do to it. They're not going to actually pay for whatever the plan is. But the we were
trying to get working with Serpent Bill Npalitano. I think you all know him, knew him when he worked there. We were working to get grant money to do an engineering study and the money had run out. Well, all I can say is based on the latest MMA newsletter, $11 million and
they even list the communities that have already benefited from it. So, uh, I forwarded that to Peter Karen and said, "We need to look into this." >> Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you, Nancy. >> Okay. Is there >> Okay, Nancy.
>> A motion. Motion to adjurnn. I make a motion to adjourn. >> Second. >> All in favor? Hi. You sent me all