e e e this is the dayon conservation meeting going to call it to Auto to uh call it to order it is being video and audio recorded for cable broadcast and Internet Posting on
www.don uh ma.gov and YouTube would everyone stand please for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation God indivisible with liy and
justice for all okay uh uh currently in attendance is myself Jack Crawford and David Phillips who is um on video and
audio um we expect two more members to be coming in uh um one is on his way for uh through traffic and another is is at a meeting but as of right now we still
have Quorum with the uh audio and video hello no worries okay glad to see you okay Abel we have Dave on uh phone okay and
Dave is here okay David um okay uh we're going to re our first item on the agenda is to review discuss a new hearing request for determination of applicability which is called an RDA application from Donna
maso to construct a new deck porch and carport at 2532 Pleasant Street a portion of the work Falls within the 200 foot reparan Zone and the flood plane of the Titan River the green I'll take them in thank
you appreciate right good evening uh my name is Tom Morris with zenth Zenith Consulting Engineers um so the resource area um is
a um the tunon river The 200t reparan Zone comes through the middle the house here um they had started building a deck and porch uh within this buffer zone un knowing that they had to come in front
of you um they got a stop work order and now we're here they were coming for this filing anyway they wanted to propose a carport off the side of the driveway here um
very little ground disturbance will occur here there's one tree that needs to go um that's basically it but we are and we're also in a flood zone the entire lot okay um the resource area is on the other side of the street so I think
there's little impact that could possibly happen um are there any catch basins along the street not right in front of us no yeah good yeah okay and you have uh proposed
uh siltation barriers were necessary on um we haven't put any on this plan um we certainly could put them in as a condition if you want those we just thought with the street as a buffer and the little ground disturbance that's
going to happen it wasn't the post uh the ground disturbance right the post for the deck and yeah and they're already in the ground they're already in yeah and your whole front yard is not sorry I'm just G to address hi uh your
whole front front yard's still grasped right correct yeah um so they're going to put the posts and the placards across the street um you do have to buy the the placards or a dollar a piece from us that's what
we paid for them but okay well that that would come with the um your notification well this is an RDA so yeah still they still have to put it in the determination a determination okay all
right um so what we are looking for then is a negative determination okay uh either of you guys wish to make a motion for a negative determination I make a motion for uh negative determination for uh 2532
Pleasant Street is there a second all in favor I okay pass okay thank you all right so I have 21 days to issue that to you but I'll probably have it for you next week if you just want to check with me on like
Wednesday okay you're welcome thank you next on the agenda is a notice of vent by Tim cussins of parallel product solar energy for construction at
2200 Lewis Street um of two solar canopies and associate ated utilities a portion of the work falls falls within the jurisdictional Wetland resource area uh peer riew proposal received from Weston and
Samson uh Lisa put it down that that Dave also voted in favor of that um motion on on that motion thank you okay okay I
from acial right just put it there we can we can we'll share it right here we'll div it up okay right here okay hello members of the commission uh my name is Scott daget uh
senior project manager for Farland Corp uh I'm here representing Tim cussen of parallel product solar energy um what our client proposes to do uh at 2200 Lewis Street which is assessor map 14 Lot
41 uh it currently houses bges for an auto which is an auto salvage yard uh the uh the lot is about 8 and2 Acres uh it has a 6,400 square foot building which uses uh it's used as a multi
office and A Auto part service center uh it has a parking uh I believe it's a pave parking lot up front uh the property also contains an extensive number of salvaged automobiles uh as you can see uh in the area limit that I've
provided uh the property is abutted by forests to the South West and northwesterly corner of the lot uh residences Street both north and south and across the street um the property is occupied by some Wetlands which are located along
the northwest corner the Westerly property line and along the southernly property line so the applicant is seeking permission to construct two solar canopies Associated utilities uh and uh it's to be located
at the area of the salvaged automobile area and behind the existing building [Applause] Lisa you have talked to to sorry okay so an an example of what these
canopies could look like um this particular can be a site located in the Bedford at goet Auto Salvage could you just go up a little bit further with that and and turn it okay very good so it's located in the Bedford it say go
Auto Salvage um and you can see that with the height of the canopies the way that they're situated you can still do your daily activities underneath it so it would not hamper the auto salvage are from doing their dayto day activities
um as auto salvage yards go uh this particular auto salvage yard is very neat and orderly and very well organized um but typically most Auto salad yards are very some of them very disorganized so what this would enable
is that as they move their inventory around when they get ready to construct these they would put their inventory back and it would be in a neater fashion so it would be a little bit a bit of a sight Improvement um the way that they would organize all their
vehicles it would it would be less unsightly if it was one of those types of auto salvage yards which this one is not um and then pretty much a little bit closer view of solar
canopy itself so the way it's the way that it's constructed is you have these concrete piles uh that are bored into the ground uh they're poured with concrete with reinforced concrete then you have these steel ey beams which would connect to
the uh concrete piles uh you would have uh steel structures that are holding them in place and then you would have a series of solar can solar panels which would be attached uh to the structural members and it would just you know just like the way it sounds it's a solar
canopy it's above the ground it's not a ground-mounted solar unit um and um that is pretty much what our client is proposing to do okay now Lisa you have talked to them about Weston and Samson and well I did
mention that we needed to get commercial project um so we always subm it out to get reviewed um West and Samson did provide a peer review proposal but um I
think well I was just curious what are you going to use a driven pile you going to use a f coil or uh I do not know at this particular time whether they're going to use helical or whether it's just going to be CED in place and then
poured Place tube uh much bigger than a sonat tube we're talking uh I believe these are about 3 feet in diameter so they're they're rather large conrete bases see the wind load is m
okay so we uh have to have Weston and Samson do their peer review yeah and uh we will continue this right so what they're going to the scope of work for Weston and Samson um to review would be they'll
review the notice of intent and the stone Water Management report um application review review of wetland flagging um preparation of the amend and attendance at one meeting
um so the schedule they'll begin within 3 weeks of written notice to proceed and soon as the commission votes next week we'll send this over on Monday um the fee is
$1,942 for that and um that's in accordance with the peer review contract they have with the town dated October 12th 2020 23 okay so we have to set up the 53g account uh for that sum of money they
will come in review it and then we I and then we will uh uh act upon it uh After we receive their evaluation sounds good to me okay um is there a motion to set up a 53g account
um for $1,942 uh for this project yeah I make a motion uh we set up the account for uh 2200 Lis street0 second second okay all in
favor and David said I as well okay um is there a motion to you we're all set I was just going to continue the hearing unless you have you know no I just going to continue the hearing yeah okay motion to continue the
hearing make a motion we continue to March 20th uh March 20th we have a question in the audience yeah yeah we have a couple of a Butters here are we allowed to ask questions yes yeah it's going to be continued so we this will be going on for a little bit but feel free
okay I have a couple take the Podi please yeah you have to state your name for the minutes okay sorry for not asking hi my name is Barbara Fontaine I live at 2199 Lewis Street and I'm probably the most impacted because I'm right across
the street from this proposed project and so when I got the ab's notification I did download the information and I have re you know come up with a couple of questions that are of concern for me uh in particular one of the biggest concerns would be leeching and the
wetlands so there's water that's about a quarter of a mile less than a quarter of a mile bges the here my house is right across the street and it's less than a quarter of a mile behind me okay and it's the Somerset water supply I think that's their drinking water yes okay and
then there's water up the opposite side um so one of the questions I have for conservation is what is the impact with leeching of toxic um chemicals of any kind this is why we have a peer review okay um Professional Engineers and a
secondary Wetland scientist who will be going out on site to examine this and to give us a report since uh I I don't know ha if you're an engineer but uh I certainly am not and uh jack is not uh
but this is why we have this 53g account set up to get their professional opinions on all of this so will the abuts I'm sorry I didn't mean to cut you off will all of the abuts be given a copy of that peer review prior to the next meeting so that we can have time to
also we view it um and if we have it before the next meeting what you can do is you can send me an email my emails right on this pamphlet okay I'll take one with you and then when we have it we will provide it to you it might be only one of two they might have to go out and
come this might not be closed at the next meeting it might be ongoing concerns or things that the engineers need to work out but because it is a commercial site in bought it it requires storm water management
which that's why they submitted these reports to be reviewed yeah okay and my only other concern I and and it doesn't speak directly to this is that you know right now currently we have a high cancer incident rate on a street oh um
yes if you I didn't know yeah so that is of concern for me I've had uh two neighbors to my left hus uh actually was two females with cancer and to my right husband and wife one deceased from cancer both on the left have been
deceased um not the current resident but previous and my husband had a recent um issue with cancer so this is uh thank you um it's a real concern for the neighborhood um and I like Borges and I
want to support them but I want to make sure that our community is safe in what we're doing okay what we can do is we is is inform Western Samson of this and they will look into any uh leachings that go into the soil and that can be
part of their report thank you I appreciate that okay so when that goes in Lisa yeah this will all be part of the minutes so that's why I'm not writing anything down because we do have a woman that takes the minutes for us and and then the only other thing of
concern is like um I know that when these solar panels are disposed of they are toxic that is confirmed with research and so if there's a any kind of an accident that were to occur at BO WEA like they run it
you know if car falls off the I don't know what you call the machine they move them around on or it hits the pilings and the panel is cracked what would be the impact for toxicity on those types of things too okay okay thank thank you for your time I appreciate it you're welcome is
there anyone else okay uh is there a motion to uh continue uh to March 20th make a motion we continue U uh 20 2200 lure Street till March 20th 2025 I'll second all in
favor I I and and Dave says okay thank you thank you okay uh next on the agenda we have a notice of intent application from David Butler 833 William Street for our septic system repair a portion of the work
Falls within the jurisdictional Wetland of the resource area um Lisa we don't have a uh file number for this yet um actually we do yeah because I gave you an updated agenda 0514
okay I actually have the plant here no I I got it here I'm I'm working from the one you I got the other day so you guys might recall this one we had a previous an before us until recently on and thenc
W around off of the and and to provide a different do you want this no this is um the Sol right okay thank you okay Paul good evening I apologize for being late I was in another committee meeting that
went a little uh well we have Dave on the uh watching us and responding to hearing here oh excellent how doing Mr very well sir okay open up yeah we can open up there
sure okay why don't you that that's the old one that that's the solar panel right okay um Lisa this is the site where where the sepc was moved from one side to the
other side um it was moved so why don't my name is Richard GRE uh I'm chief engineer at Prime and I'm the one who stamp the plans okay um basically it's an existing four-bedroom home that's been there for decades and the septic
system failed and we want to fix it so it's kind of a Nob brainer to don't want the W the Sue to go into the wetlands so you you put one that's upgraded um and we originally had the field uh a little bit over and Lisa
looked at and said you know there's a potential veral pool yeah we want you to move it away from that so we so we did and she thought there should be AIT bigger scale so we showed a big scale okay
dig but the only other things and if you would be amenable to just changes I don't know why we would not need to continue this we obviously want the system to be replac but I just thought
it would be a good idea because there's so many Wet Ones around if you just show the access through the controls oh okay yeah that's that's a day-to-day thing where
where we we want it to be a complete barrier uh when they come in with the machine that obviously move the barrier bring the machine in uh then they they're digging the hole Yeah so I mean if if you're going to leave the around
the whole thing that comes all the way up to the existing dwelling I would just say just show an area of what you want the truck to pull in and out of so they're not running over it because then they compromise and not even but you don't
want to leave a gap in the sil control right no just show access just show access okay yeah that's fine what was we name the 100 buffer to theal potential veral pool as potential veral pool
because the 100 ft off is part of the veral pool and then the exterior is a buffer okay so our jurisdiction goes out 200 from the high water of the pool yeah so we want to add another hundred to that
okay I just wanted that I know it's not going to affect this project but it could affect projects in the in the future yeah I understand okay yeah I mean if they got a failed system we want it to uh them to get it done and and to have it done properly right
and the only other item I had was C and D I would just label them as iws all the isolated ones just name label them as iws like you have the lab so lab what isolated vegetated Wetland
isolated vegetated wet I VW yeah but that was all I have I don't know okay so we we can proceed then and get them um uh approval to get their system fixed I just want to ask a couple
questions probably point this they're going to export the existing material that's in the system yeah yeah we're going to bring in septic sand yeah that'll be exported off the site right so they're going to export the material that's in there okay I
didn't know if they were going to use it to you know redistri the the yard is nicely manicured now so it would make more of a mess to spread the soil down I just wanted to make sure they W
going to file someplace else on it's I think question yeah we go by and we see yeah so there's no reg just grading having to do with the sep but it's not
going to go that's right so Lisa would you be recommending a motion to approve subject to modification of the plan to label the ivw and the access point yeah and um just the labels on
y okay to we can do a call Monday or you can yeah I'll what I'm going to do is modify the plan then email it you to to look at and say yes or gez no no because we're close tomorrow yeah okay yep I'll
I'll do that no problem any other questions or comments anyone from the audience okay is there a motion to accept the notice of and issue an order of conditions uh motion to accept the notice of intent and issue the order of
conditions subject to the labeling of the ivw PVP and access point on the plan all in favor I and Dave says I thank you very much you thank you
sorry for the long process this yeah take care oh I'll be issuing it though do you want me to mail it to prime or do you want me to um mail it to you cuz it's got to get recorded okay or do you want to pick it
up it's probably best for us to pick it up or whoever's going to do the contract okay so it'll be ready within 3 weeks normally I have it ready much sooner than that but I have it up to three weeks okay so I'll contact you I I can text you when it's ready all right thank
you and this is something different than the um the permit that we had already been issued the different than the health per yeah so what we'll do is we'll provide them with a copy of our permit okay but the engineer did review
your system already it hasn't changed for him right so this shouldn't be a problem okay all right okay thank you all right thank you okay next on the agenda is a notice of intent application from Angela Lawrence at
418 Old Somerset Avenue to raise an existing dwelling within the 100 foot buffer zone and construct a new single family home and Associated access and utilities a portion of the work Falls within the jurisdictional Wetland
resource area hello just give me a minute here me that was a catch the ification receipts I get them all back except for the ones from the towns uh thank you Mr chairman it's Evan Watson W engineering representing the
applicant okay so what we're proposing to do here is actually on Old sunet Avenue house new house and existing field that's been used as a
farm and Riverside Avenue at the bottom of the plan is a private Drive um that we're not going to be accessing because that's a private road so um on here we've delineated the riverfront the
BDW um we show natural heritage line we have FMA um 100 100 flood elevator 13 and we were able to design this project so that everything is outside of all those regulated areas completely the
only work that would is required with in a regulated area is the demolition of this existing structure and it's about 97 ft away from the Wetland so just in it just failed
um then when we were um going for our building permits it was discovered that across the street is actually a potential Vernal pool um and this heavy blue line here is the 100 foot uh PV
PVP and then this Dash yellow line is 100t from that um and also on the plan I I drew a profile so if you draw a line straight across here turn it sideways that way that's what we're seeing so here is
where the Vernal pool is um way down at the bottom we come up there's a BM then we have Riverside half and then here is our proposed project and the reason why I drew this profile is to demonstrate how there's a high point on the plan is
basically right here so everything uh the south of this line flows towards the vermal pool everything to the north of that line flows to the River um and so we don't need any to
clear any uh vegetation to do this project we don't require any grading that would catch anything towards that Vernal pool area for the project um and that's why you see all our erosion controls are on this side because nothing flows that
way so again just uh kind of summarize everything is outside of State regulated areas it's just the local 100 foot uh PVP detection Zone that we'll be in um I don't think we've received a
file number yet um and Lisa um hadn't gotten a chance to get out there before the ground uh turned into a frozen slush puppy so we'll probably have to continue I was just asking Lisa if um it was okay
to um allow the um release of the building permanent uh for this portion that's outside of all the the buffer zones and we can wait on the um demolition permit for the existing
house now you called that uh I want to call the dirt road yep Riverside Drive is that a public way it is not okay and and your driveway will
be oh the house will be accessed directly from old Somerset avue not that not that private drive or whatever it is that's correct you're going have a separate driveway yep so I I know I'm going to be asked questions because um I'm not that close to it but people in
my neighborhood walk that area and I know I'm going to be asked questions yep I'm sure that's part of the reason why we just kept everything separate off of Riverside Avenue so that we wouldn't have to um okay you know bother anybody's rights out front I believe is
public way out by the cemetery and all yeah I believe it becomes private somewhere around the halfway way down back it's private I did I I researched the deeds and the plans extensively trying to figure out like
what the actual status of that is it was too unclear to me to say oh yeah you have 100% rights in this you can access let's get rid of that so uh so just to avoid any confusion we'll just have our own driveway well you can see and that's why
all these people that do walking in that area are quite confused as to gee do they can they even walk their IL legally through there and I know I've done it myself and I didn't right and that's the thing with private ways too sometimes is
even though it's not a public way do who has the right to pass and repass over the way and things like that so yeah okay I used to live on Old Somerset Once Upon a Time so down there um can I ask question you certainly may
I have a question about the pool water M so the pool water um sometimes we just want to see that you would you know probably put a condition that you just don't dump the pool water through the fields you know
um so sometimes we'll probably definitely put a conditioners that you would get get it po yeah so just so if they want to empty it so the
pool is this green line is the 200t river front right and this yellow line is the 100t buffer zone and then what's the AC EC the AC EC is I didn't even really realize that D had an AC EC until
you just told me yeah it's for the 3 Mile River and we're also outside of that too so it's an area of critical environment concern so part of your lot is considered an AC EC right and the only thing with the AC EC is you have to check off that you are
in an AC in the the form and the Three Mile River has a a tmdl uh certain Provisions can't be exceeded and I think in um the three mile River it's pathogens you know there's too many
septic systems and things along there so even if we were within the AC we wouldn't be introducing any new pathogens because this is actually on Municipal sewer so you have sewer though right right we're on sewer yes so you're going to be putting in a lengthy
pipeline there yes um is there any thought on the green houses are you going to keep using them we haven't even gotten in them yet the basement are still full all the brids from the we suppos to really our
plan is to assess them and if the if the um foundations are worthy of a greenhouse yeah possibly turn back into a greenhouse if not then probably just trees to give privacy for the pool yeah in the
street okay um well so because of the snow and ice they haven't been able to walk that line until you file an application with us I don't walk them so I'm hoping that the snow's gone in a couple weeks but
our next meeting is March 20th I don't know if anyone's here for this item are there any of Butters here any anyone else in the audience wish to ask questions okay so we're going to continue this till next month after you
get your file number and then we'll and Lisa checks out the line yep okay is there a motion to continue so MO March 20th March 20th okay seconded by Abel uh
all in favor okay and Dave gives approval okay got the next next three on here so I'll just stay up okay thank you yep well you'll see me
sooner I mean I I'll let you know before I go out yeah sounds yeah I'll let you know though so so you guys know I'm walking around there you're welcome take care it's sted out too the limit of the the foundation is Li the be poles in
yellow I appreciate you doing that okay um the next hearing oh you're here for uh long built yes okay next is a notice of intent application by long built homes to construct a single family
home at zero Clubhouse Drive with utilities and Associated access okay yeah it's we we have two of them so I don't know which one this one is but let's assume it's the lot 31 this is lot 61 lot 61 okay lot
61 so here we are again at um Huntress Hill Drive uh they've been moving right along we quite a few houses up that didn't require any permits so that's why I haven't seen me few uh months here but now as we around the corner we're getting a little closer yep Able's going
to recuse himself recuse myself for the next two items okay no no problem um thank you you you got to come down sorry and so this is um I didn't dring My overall plan but if you go in there
this is where the road makes a hook around to the left so okay um and this is actually on the North side uh and everything slopes off to the Wetland that then flows up to the north um so here I've indicated where the 100t
buffer zone is and the 50t no building Zone and the majority of the work is outside of the 50 Foot maybe we just go into it a little bit just to square off the yard but once we get to the back I was able to hold the 50 buffer um this
still is under the order of conditions for the entire project so this was designed to comply with that with the roof infiltrators Etc um we'll have Municipal Water uh the private sewer system um with the the treatment
plant and I show a Rosen control at the edge of work so that's it any questions this treatment plant that you have um it has to be for a uh constructed for a certain
number of uh houses uh yes and so I haven't seen the or it's been some time since I've seen it the the SE uh plant yeah so that well it was outside of any buffer zone or anything else that like that which is good um and I think it was
designed for like 23,000 gallons per day something like that so it was big enough to accommodate all the proposed homes in and the community center um and it's actually it's a groundwater discharge permit so it's a state level permit and it has like a you know a full-time
operator that shows up routinely and maintains it and operates it and everything else so so it's it's truly like a a completely private sewer company essentially that you okay
um oh yeah go ahead leak this is Lee the uh Le has to be with long buil homes um good to see you tonight um the uh we are scheduling what's called a clean water test um for the first week of March uh
for the sewer treatment facility um so it's it's essentially completed uh and what we what we're required to do is to first run it with clean water to make certain that all the pumps and all the motors and everything is circulating properly and all working in in in proper
order and then once we get the uh clean once we get the okay from D that that they're satisfied with the clean water test it'll be uh it'll become operational so we're we're actually and we we can't get any more cosos uh for any of the houses until it is fully operational that that shared SE septic
system had a maximum number of 34 homes so we had 33 in the development plus the model home and that was the 34 so we're capped out off the shared septic system anyway so that has to be abandoned uh when this uh becomes operational and this is planned this is intended to
become operational first week in April we're our first house is closing first new home is stated to close in the first week and so all those other homes will then be attached everything will be all be turn there's there's a valve uh up in the area near the um sewer treatment
facility and when that valve is turned everybody goes into that and this and the shared septic system is is no longer used and will be uh properly abandoned okay thank you sure so we still don't have the file number for the no file number I know
that's yes so I don't know how you would typically handle something with no file number um you know I obviously we can't issue the order but I don't know if there's nothing more for us to offer there nothing more unless you have any questions or comments
but no I I don't have any questions or comments on the property but I don't think we can close it without a file number no we no you need the file number uh to to to close it and uh yeah and issue the order of conditions
um but just checking to see if I had to come back if next time so if uh you know we can I can talk next week yeah when in the audience have questions okay let's go to the second lot uh AR um let's close out
that vote to continue okay is there a motion to continue um um lot r61 of long buil uh motion to continue until the March meeting second all in favor
I okay David said okay uh okay R32 what R32 very good uh once again Evan with W engineering representing the applicant and this is lot R32 um then we have this
is more of like a isolated Wetland area over here the road goes by it and there's some covers under the road so that we don't cause any flooding there it goes across um so on this side we do have a buffer zone we were able to keep again
the majority of the work we might go into the 50 Foot by about four or five ft we have our uh erosion control at the liit of work uh proposed house roof uh
infiltrators and the same water and sewer system um tiin for utilities okay you have any questions now will we be um will we are in a position where we have the file number and we're ready to uh issue an order yeah
would it be appropriate for us to want to see um placards just because they are so close to the 50 Foot we've been doing Lisa will put that in the audence and and we've already talked about it because we were at the uh in the office was it last week on the plan oh they are
okay perfect they're on the plan and I think they bought about 50 of them right I think he owes me 50 bucks oh does he no you can't you can't buy any money um I don't know did you get the I don't think you gave the 50 yet but we'll put it on your tab I'll thank you I'm clever
on I left my I left my bird watching field scope at home yeah yeah yep and we actually use um the fiberglass carsonite posts they're brown and uh they last a lot longer versus a wood post that would rot and things it's the same thing that like the DCR uses as Trail markers
through there okay all right Lisa that I think that's a good idea that we do that with with all the people uh uh PVC posting well I think people should be able to choose cuz it's the land so some people would rather see
wood I will say that the they're a little bit difficult to get just one piece because they have to be ordered so whereas we were ordering you know full box of them we you know it ends up being okay but if you order one it ends up being like $80 for like one piece you
know so um okay yeah yeah there that like springy kind of texture okay so certainly we expect to close it out for uh the March okay uh it should I mean it should be coming in anytime now and uh and I I think uh Lisa
can probably even get a head start on on doing the order condition even the yard is outside the 50 on this one correct everything except for maybe three or four feet right here right right along the property
great okay but it's at grade you know any of the fill is is up this way so you know we don't have to really grade there okay any uh questions from the audience okay do I have a motion to
continue the hearing until uh the 20th of March so move Jack all in favor I and Dave says I Dave did you say I I heard him I heard I'm double checking here well the first
time he's very soft uh then I hear a dog in the background too the next one I think is uh the cooc for Phil reny yeah they couldn't make it yeah so I told him that I was going to be here if he has any questions so yeah
so um I did take some photos you need to open it's not a public meeting right it's a public meeting I'm sorry I'm interrupting I'm getting ahead of yourself boy we might be out of here by 8 o00
um yes so the next one is uh certificate of compliance request from Philip runy for a new single family house at 2147 Horton Street it was issued we issued on maynd
2022 EP file number 017 d456 um we got the recording information site infection on January 27th with the owners so I'm recommending a complete
certification we did receive the as plans from W engineering there's just two ongoing um conditions and those are um which I already did speak with the owners but just to remind them they
the herde um ongoing conditions are no herbicide or pesticide shall be used on this site within 25 ft of the Wetland resources and fertilizers utilized for landscaping and one the buffone should be slow
released low nitrogen types and shall not be used within 25 ft of theour are we did talk about it when I was out there but um now once they vote on it do they want to pick it up should I give it to you
you can pick it up okay you guys have any questions you want to see photos no I'm all set with you're satisfied on this one here the house was built as far away from the Wetland as yeah the this is the asilt plan the house and the
septic system is completely outside the buffer zone the only thing we needed was this portion of the driveway to access but we were able to pull everything outside so you know here's the 50 Foot there was zero work in the 50 Foot Zone at all so um and I wrote a certification
what was designed exactly matches what was constructed okay is there a motion to issue a certificate of compliance for 2147 Horton Street so move all in favor all Dave yeah
he you guys want to sign it tonight I'll have it that's fine it's not the budget Lisa I wouldn't think it would be perfect I'll let him know he'll be happy great all right thanks thank you
Evan I'll go this way okay uh next on the agenda is enforcement from 2371 County Street proposed mitigation plan by North Country group uh revised 8624
um I asked them to not come tonight because we have a site visit okay and that site visit is scheduled for 36 uh 25 yeah we're also still waiting for the final plan AEL and I sat down
with Mr juser and we went over some things on W okay all right uh on 122 25 okay
um 2470 uh Pleasant Street previous filling made to Wetland property I sent a follow-up email to the owners on January 22nd I have not heard back okay able uh 710 Center Street
how you doing yeah have you made any progress with natural heritage okay your name please uh sorry Matthew bombar Matthew Bomar want to spell it Bonar
yeah I have it for the record okay um well I tried contacting them a couple times and Haven got back but I don't know why okay I mean that was a while ago yeah so do you want to just should we
just sit down and figure out what your plan is for that area and I because I'm assuming you want to deal with it in the spring yeah it's yeah okay so um but it's it's you're going to You'll
deal with Lisa then about uh restoration of where you infringed upon Wetland of buff hisone he might already have an idea do you know what you want to plant for trees there
uh I mean a mbel will probably be fine there's already Maple there and yeah there's like a black wilus tree and then yeah so if you want we can do a site visit when the snow clears and then
we just that's probably yeah and then we should contact natural heritage or it do you have an email yeah I don't ever use it though
but what's with you people on CER street with no email because we're all set you want to get a hold of us chase us down um well if you wanted to write down your email there's a signin sheet over on that chair over there you can write
down your email and anyone who hasn't signed in if you could please sign in um but if you could write down your email for me and then I can email you or at least write down your phone number so I can contact you
you don't have it no yeah that would be great then I can contact you and we can set up a site visit and um you know well we we're pleased that you came in to rectify situation and uh uh make it less
uh cumbersome for you as as possible yeah I mean I have it all staked out everything it's all great pretty accurate so okay okay so you can you can take care of that in writing to Lisa so that everyone in town doesn't get your
email address yeah I mean um okay yeah I actually have paper here if you wanted to just come write it down and um yeah let's try to get it taken care of before the next meeting so we can get it off the agenda um I think you can probably
plan to plant though at the end of March beginning of April yeah yeah well that's actually a good time because it's it's so cool that uh uh trees won't be stressed plans won't won't be stressed at all
yeah okay all right all right thank you for coming um 880 hot Street um we have a site visit thank you okay we have a site visit scheduled at for
3625 and uh again that was uh as above uh the agent was uh was told that he didn't need to come tonight okay uh 1070 Smith Street 12 days so okay having
trouble actually came lastek okay Lisa 1070 Smith Street um it's a followup letter sent out M they did email me back and actually in fact their engineer emailed me their engineer um
completed the survey work and um oh they did um Zenith Niles Zar from Zenith came in and met with me showed me um an existing conditions plan we talked a little bit about about
it um we need to wait until the spring for them to file because there's um at least one if not two potential veronal pools within the wetlands so we just want to make sure they're labeled right
and they're staying outside the 100 foot um because they are going to do a fair bit of landscaping in the backyard and the front yard okay so that's they're working with us thank you Matt have a good night okay
uh uh 10:30 Oak Street Wetland violation um yeah so I had sent the notice of violation but I had the address wrong um and so I resent it on the 10th via certified mail I have not
gotten the card back so okay um hopefully my fingers are crossed that they do um reply I'm going to actually um follow up with the building department and uh if I need to
I'll take a ride by there and um see if anyone's working just to have a conversation with them okay uh nine uh let's see wait a minute 2134 Horton Street
hi no I mean whoever you don't even have to go well you probably should go up for the microphone yeah how you doing tired yeah with the water department so doing the lead removal services and it's
not a good thing at this point this cold temperatures it's just as you can see it kills your hands and you're brutally getting getting beat oh yeah I can imagine I apologize where I look I just just got here right because of the Washington Bridge obviously you know
construction so here I am in regards to what happened with my new home I'm new to the town I wasn't aware of any factors of it where they never explained anything to us at the closing so all I needed was a shed to
put my work equipment in because I have it stored at my brother's place for now and that's when we saw the wood chips there we thought the wood chips looked nice so we added some more wood chips to it to level out my edge of my
driveway and that's what happened and then we applied for U the license to get the uh the shed cuz we we're not aware of it where we lived there was already a shed there we didn't know so when we called it in and then
they explained everything the conservation came out we we we not okay all right uh Lisa so uh where does it uh stand as far as uh a degree of violation um well I think you hired a
wetland scientist right did you my wife would know more than that than we try to go through like I guess whatever you told us to do that's what we're doing to comply yeah so see I took some photos you forer con yes sir I see in the
morning time yeah yeah that's do you okay so here's some photos so this is the highend this first photo that's the highend now uh wait uh this number is
this up near Buffington in that area it's across from this 1070 Smith Street so so right here yeah they basically chipped
chipped um trees I don't know when you were chipping the trees no that was already like that that was already like that because there's solar panels a tree fell on the house that was in 2000 20 add to make it like leveled with the edge of the driveway so I could put the
shed on the side of the driveway that's what I did but I wasn't aware of like of wetlands or up LS anything like that okay I'm not I wasn't familiar with the area yeah there was a claim made into the insurance from what the insurance made us aw when we bought the house it
was in 2022 for $226,000 I guess two or three trees fell down on matter of fact a few M fell they to repl couple near my house that's another concern with my insurance now and we're just trying we just bought the home we don't know yeah it's not that
you can't put a shed but it's just the area yeah if you wanted to put a shed and you want to put it you want to make sure it's not in a wetland or on a fill area um so you can put a shed within 100t of a
wetland obviously a house is within 100t of a wetland um but we want to try to locate it as far away from the W as possible and we also want to try to remove these wood chips without any so what could I put that shed cuz I like that's my that's my like my living see
I'm paying $500 a month in order for me to work and I keep my construction truck he sees it parked on the edge okay cuz your wife told me to on the building permit application for a motorcycle and a um right mower line mower well that's
there's a difference now that's what she's saying because we were going to take the stuff out of the garage but she didn't know what I was going to do because it's either off it was either going to put I don't think you can build a garage there but you'd have to correct your wetlands are correct correct that's why I got the shed I thought a shed
would be something portable and it's something that's you know it's not like it's going to be pre yeah thank you pre-built shed just to store the tools in so right now I got them in SE Con in my old location at distinctive that's where I keep it so I leave in the truck
in the morning I go over there pick up my trailer cuz it's like a long haul trailer so it's got a lot of tools in there and then I I haul it out so that's the reason why we did it it wasn't not like that like she said yeah the motorcycle but I have the garage for the motorcycle it was just a you know an
extra storage place at the edge of the driveway that's that's what we're looking to do not looking yeah you need to get us if you doing tell me a little bit more about the shed is there a um foundation and will you made out of many
trees I'm sorry ma'am you have no no it's a a small Tre uh 10 10 by 20 we with the I can show you what it looks like I got the uh do I do we have the I have it on my email I think we talked I just suggested that you've get the
weapons flaged figure out if there's going to be foundation for the shed no yeah no Foundation it's just like those it's like a FL go in the driveway on the at the edge of the driveway like I'm just my driver comes down so I can put my tools in so when I back my truck up
grab my stuff to go to work and I go to work okay stake that out but I think the the bigger concern is removing the wood chips so I did speak with Stephen um shimo okay um so he is working on it he said he'll get back to me once the
weather is a little bit better and he can come out and great test the area and probably contact Zenus and also do like a survey as well um if you need the survey you might not need it for what your husband wants if it doesn't
require ground disturbance but you do need a wetland s because you're going to restore that area yeah yeah okay so so you're sort of uh in line with what needs to be done and what you have you know what you have to do
then I I at this point I just want to know what I look I'm not here for that I just want to get it like straightened out okay but I I definitely need a shed like to to put my work equipment you know I want to make make this work if it was the wood chips would been safe not harming it once the the wetlands are
reestablished what it is then you can see where you can set okay so she'll set you straight As far as what you has to be removed and and you whoever you get will tell you as well whoever you you hire as your Wetland scientist and and then uh we'll
get the shed in uh out of that area I don't have an area though that's the thing that's what they're telling me I don't have an area so my insurance is concerned now because if the wetlands are going to stop coming into the house and start eroding to the house the house will sink so what what what happens in
the future if that's if that's the case yeah do we have to put hey barrels um because I know from what someone said was that the wetlands it starts it's it's growing to the expands to the house is that going to affect our house in the future we don't we don't
know if it's going to expand I mean you're not I don't think you're in a flood zone there but but you did buy a lot and what she showed me that the consultant um shared with her it's pretty close to Accurate about the
amount of uping you have is very limited um so anything you would want to do on that lot would subject to our jurisdiction well what what she talking about that's the scientist um that so what do they have they have
to get rid of uh wood chips and then they can put their shed in I think if they got rid of the wood chips in SE and then but is there room there for a there is room for a shed I I have to see it on the okay 200
square ft you said no less than it's 20 by 10 it's yeah it's it's small I don't know I 200 that's it's about 200 yeah it's about that yeah okay well when she goes out CH you'll take a look at it and if you want to put Stakes where it's
going to go 20 by 10 it it was right where those wood chips were at it was like at the edge of the driveway they can't go there it can't go there that's in a that's that was a cleared area so I mean just work Sten okay
all right it just sucks cuz we bought the house that way no it's sell it is it because I can't do nothing with it done I mean because that's reg graving a backyard that's within my estimate
stepen might St different and then I'll come look at it but my estimate is that the wetlands out like 10 feet away from that remember I stepped down we both kind of fell yeah yeah we fell into it yeah okay so they do have a wetland
scientist who's going to yes engage uh and tell them what to do okay all right so if you got okay so it see you're on the right path to to correction and to get whatever you
need okay very good then thank you thank you see you on March 20th but if you wanted to if you got any more information before March 20th that would be great good luck okay uh 966 Main
Street uh this is one that um oh yeah he did we finally connected this this evening um right before the meeting um he connected with Tom Perry he moved the dumpster you must be
familiar with this one 966 Main Street I know Dave's familiar with this one um I can that number that I gave to you that that might that did the trick um that was the yeah right but uh
she must have gotten contact and yeah so the dumpster was right there right the hill before you go up to the farm y no it's got use for work for water okay SCH okay right
there so the the dumpster was pretty much in the Wetland on the edge of the property line and the the dump truck I happen to drive by and see the dump truck tis and almost yeah in the wet and I guess it's
happened several times so the owner moved the dumpster out into the right way on the street it's there temporarily hope they get flashing lights on yeah and U but he is he says he's thinking he has some wood chips
there and I said what are you going to do with the wood chips he said oh I'll get rid of them if you want I said well they're in the Wetland right now but I was hoping you weren't going to try to fill that in you have to put that back because that's still not going to help you when it comes to the G um
so he's talking about maybe putting some gravel so I'm going to work with him and he's willing to come to the next meeting okayed you guys to be aware okay um other business uh review discuss okay before
we move on Tony is here and he wanted to talk to the commission I don't know if we can take other um um public input before sure can we take can we take it
out take public input out of order second all in favor I I I and what are you here for oh okay I'm sorry is that do under
correspondence right so it's not on the agenda but um Tony submitted a perk review application and um I asked Den if the flagging was up and they said no and then they came back and said we two
months later the flagging up so then I responded in an email who flagged it was it me because I did it in 19 for you or 20 20 I did it I flagged his site in 2020 um so
Tony responded I don't know I I'm totally go ahead you got to start from the beginning for don't well I applied for a permit to uh do a perk test and Lisa responded that I couldn't
do it until I had the Wetland flagging you know surveyed so I got a hold of zce uh Zenith and um they came out and they flaged it they did the original survey when she did it in
2020 they marked all the flags that she put down now where is this in the rear ofad 728 hot Street hot Street hot okay all right so that's near where you've on on the uphill side where you're where
you're now where you're at now okay I'm there I'm I'm so all this work has been done and she says that she can't check their work I can't check my work oh your work I need someone else I'm trying to
get an occupancy permit for 728 she's holding up my occupancy permit um I'm holding up your occupancy how they told me that you won't release it because the the flagging hasn't been verified I won't release the perk
that's not what I'm told I didn't put anything on hold for occupancy but the per bought a help you did I did yeah that's what you told me I have no idea mondy will strain it
out okay apparently um okay he's all set with whatever he has to do no he's not someone needs to review the perk location and as it is to the wetlands that I flagged in 2020 I can't review
that but when when the perk was done though that had to they haven't perked yet so now Lisa I'd ask this is um have you contacted the so you originally flagged it 19 or 20 Zenith ref flagged
it no Zenith surveyed where my Flags yeah so they relocated my flagging they relocated no they located your flags they just located the FL they located her Flags
they just located whatd or did they locate them you told me they located them in 20 and they just re and they just when you did it they came out within s days and and and they located jaw Flags right in
2020 all right they just when you requested before I did my perck test you wanted it the flags put back because the weather the wind takes them down so they came out they had all the data from her from coming out and mocking her flags
and they just put up new Flags okay all right they do it by GPS okay um is this something that uh let's say someone else needs to review you guys someone maybe able okay I I don't
know I'll go out there is the FL is it permissible for me to go out there there and say I need to recuse myself that's all I I'm asking you a question though can I go out there and say that the flags are 100 feet from the
wetlands and uh from based upon you have to take my um measure tool maybe I also I also have trying to say something I got surgery five one might be very happy to that I mean
obviously I don't think it's necessary for ton to spend any more money and hire another Wetland scientist however for the other lot that's what we asked him to do and you said something about because Stephen did that for the other lot you said Stephen's coming out again
when's he coming after the snow yeah probably okay if if I go out there I I've got a tape I get a 200 foot tap you don't need to use a tape though you can just use I have one but what would you what I'm suggesting you use the laser if Dave wasn't sick Dave could go with
you but now okay what uh is are things visible right now uh I'm around Monday and uh or even tomorrow Saturday uh I'm available Saturday you know well uh what we have to do is be 100t from
the wetlands right what's its flag once it's flagged so the engineer that comes out and does the perk test I believe checks it he checks where he's going to do his perk and he knows he has to be 100 feet
did he stake it pardon did he stake it cuz normally they just stake with it going to perk no because you limit it to where you're going to perk when you stake it you still can be within 100 feet or more why do you have to stay at 100 ft you can't be within the 100 feet
you can be outside it if you're recused Leisa I would advise you to not participate I'm not are all flags up still Yeah just they just got they just they new they got put in with the last month okay um so it should be easy for you to no I and like I say I
got the tape I'm not sure if it's in my car or if it's in my I use the laser yeah but you know okay tomorrow all I should do is shoot it it's in my trunk you can take it you're going to need tomorrow down the
cape I've got the I got a tape um I got a 300 tape if you need uh what I got a 300 has to be as 100 um okay as far as far as if it's flagged it's up to the engineer when when he submits his I I
understand okay I just want to know exactly where the slot is because you've got um I'm going to call it a garage I'm not even sure now and then there's a house after the garage this is in the rear rear of the garage oh in the rear
okay between the uh Woodland the wood line and the new house that was built there's two new houses that were built I built both houses no I I'm I'm familiar with that it's between the
garage and the new house it's between 728 and 7:34 can can I say something if you'd like I can print what Tony sent with the engineer sent Monday and give it to you and then you'll have everything to go do the site visit okay
that would be uh Monday then because I'm I'm uh out for a few days after that Tuesday Wednesday Thursday okay Monday it will be Monday you going have to get there by yourself because I'm not going to be there Monday I'm leaving
town okay and then I can call it in and okay Monday and then I can have have your laser okay we'll get it we'll get it squared away you're going to see two test pipes okay that's that's another lot the the lot we're trying to perk is
to the west of those two test pipes okay about 100 feet off those pipes is where we're going to put the test pits going to see two white pipes so this house is going to be behind that so they're going to fly in by drone right no got a got a driveway going to to
it okay is someone going to be there Monday no no okay I'll find it she's going to print it out and I'll know I'll where it is I I know where why can't she walk with you she knows where it is no that's good right but uh look for
those two white test pipes what I can do is print out the information I have and give it to him and let him use my laser what and Dave if Dave's available Dave could go with you yeah okay very good okay we'll take care of it Monday who's Dave Dave's on the call Dave here he is
right here this is what he one of the Commissioners has called in he's he's not uh 100 he's not 100% uh today so uh he's watch he's here say hi to Tony hi
Tony how you doing it's why they pay you the big bucks Dave okay all right I think we're set are set all right in the rear of 728 between 7 4 you're going to see two test pipes 100 ft from that test pipes to the
West it's not St do you have time to stake it yeah I'll St it I'll St it you see uh maybe three or four steaks I'll Stak if the ground is not Frozen that I can't drive a steak
well then put then what you do is just get a stone or something put it there spray paint Stone don't fall in the ice Tony you look brittle okay uh let's go back to uh wait we um no Maris Lane you said
yes okay we're on correspondence now you want to Mo to take correspondence that order um sure so moveed seconded Jack seconded all in favor I okay how you guys doing good are you
pretty good I'm Justin Pratt I'm the homeowner this is my contractor Tim infon um he'll be doing project um we got sign offs to I don't know if you remember this about a year ago I had flooding issues on Maris Lane the back
with the whole correct okay y he worked with Mass wildlife and did plans that finally got approved you had to do a couple revisions letter the plan a scope of work I got two copies so okay yeah I I've been there I don't know how many
times by there and I um so you know well here's some pictures of what it looked like I've been times the flooding pretty insane uh 8T deep of water I remember this well this
picture give you a little refresher I remember this um so we Stak the property we submitted a plan uh had to revise the plan according to the mass Heritage um because there's a lot of restrictions on that area uh due to various issues that have occurred in the past yeah so we
revised the plan to do a step down grade and build a dogghouse more or less eress um and all within our property line so no work will be touching conservation and we don't have any abing wetlands in that area it's all Pine Forest I believe
okay so so uh what did they call all this water they just called it it's just runoff from the the uh the storms that we had last year okay and so what are they suggesting that you do you do a step down increase the grade fill it and up until the line with
uh the conservation line they don't think it's groundwater at all no no it's all run off cuz the grade uh if you look at the original plan uh it was supposed to be 36 feet above on Topo and they didn't fill that area raas yeah this looks like a little bowl correct yeah so
all that water instead of hitting the sale to go out in the front just accumulates in the backyard because it just it's the de pression in the back there's a sale if you look at the you have a septic system too yeah and where is that in the front in the front yeah and okay how long does it take for that
water to to drain that took three months to drain so that's why we're trying to get rid of it uh was aard it 8 ft at Center yeah and um when you moved there was there a
depression there then the Depression was there but on the original Topo diagrams that were approved by the town that was supposed to be higher than the great was that so for some reason it wasn't filled they just left it and did a walk out so my proposal is to bring it up to
original plan so okay so then we don't really have to wear out of this now if they just go and do the filling Lisa so he's out the natural heritage area he's outside the conservation restriction area he's outside of any bu or regul so
do it it's just Woods that is on my property cuz Rick never rent all the way out to the line yeah so what we're going to do is fill and then receip with conservation mix I believe just to do that little buffer zone okay more or less and you know any trees that have to
be removed or anything like that is on my property anyway there's nothing being touched in conservation Okay so you don't have any more Pines that need to come out no it's all the Pines that we're removing are already cut I cut them last year we're just going to be moving in the equipment when we do the grade they're already laying down so
he's going to move them out they're on my property anyway they're not on conservation they were just previously cut we didn't touch them last time because we couldn't get the equipment in there but without causing a issue on the grade so now that we're redoing the grade we're just going to get them out while we're there okay so I'm glad it sounds like the finish line is in sight
thank God after have waterfront property but that's probably not what I know yeah you don't want light Lake over there okay so I guess you're all set to go then yeah we just needed you guys to sign off for permits right building the building Department's waiting for you
are sign off okay okay did everything uh I don't know if we have to vote on anything I just say that this is not a con I think you do this is not a conservation issue that they are free to fill yeah I just had put the permit on
hold so the building from it yeah okay so it came across your desk yeah okay you're all set then I'll deal with it on Monday no problem okay thank you Lisa okay very good it Monday afternoon it should be all okay still they email me
okay okay okay thank you you guys want to keep that stuff or you want me to take it oh more than welcome to have a souvenir yeah those pictures okay if I the first one and the pictures are on the bottom there
and the pictures are on the bottom Thank you Lisa thank you guys thank you have a great evening you okay we're going to go back to uh the uh we have the minutes for September 19 and
January uh 16 um we're going to vote to accept those minutes yep with with thanks to our new minute clerk Kendra i' would like to um are you ready for a motion yes IID like to propose a motion to accept the meeting minutes of September
and January second all in favor I and and David says I I was going to introduce you guys but you already mostly know I know you both know but Abel and
Jack thanks for coming AB board okay um bills payable do we what is that all taken care of yeah they've been being paid I actually didn't oh did I bring the folder okay um I didn't I didn't
actually Bring the actual folder bills today sorry I guess there's no public input everybody has left they've already inputed um okay um we are going to go into uh special
executive session now there was one other item on the agenda regarding the conservation agent's hours did you want to address that that's the highlighted one oh um which one oh that's right your ours okay all
right that's right okay um let's Okay um review discuss act where is the other set of minutes I wrote it in but but I uh okay do you have the February one to
sign what the minutes yeah we can reprint it from the email attachment Monday if we have to right yeah they were Sor okay all right um we have submitted a budget already
and certainly it appears as though uh everything that we put on our budget request is going to be accepted now since that time um and the workload that Lisa has had there's been second thoughts about
uh the budget and the thought is to add five extra hours per week for our agent so I want want to bring that up for discussion um and then to a vote on whether we make that
request to the uh SE selectman and finance committee um you know Lisa right now is is a 25h hour per week uh person
um I'm sure that she puts in more than that that she doesn't get paid for every week um I know today is is a late day for us so she starts later but I started getting the phone calls at uh in text about 8:00
this morning and this is and I know that you know the hours certainly exceed her 25 um I'd like you know your discussion on do we request an
extra five hours per week for her and doesn't mean we're going to get if we vote on it doesn't mean that they're going to approve it either can I share some thoughts Mr chairman go ahead thank you um so I'm strongly in favor of this um to be
honest I think that bringing Lisa up to 30 hours even that is unlikely to compensate her fully for all of her time worked but I think it will at least uh you know defay some of the extra time that I think despite our recommendations
that probably does anyway um that said I can tell you that I know that the town's fiscal position is at this present moment we're looking at a negative Levy capacity which basically means that our current next year's budget is still higher as it
currently is than our ability to raise taxes under prop two and a half however a lot of that is still in flux because we're waiting on some final budget figures from things like the school department and the health insurance pre premium increases and so we may very
well end up in a position where we're looking to add back the town may be able to add some things back to departmental budgets and so in anticipation of that potentially happening I would be strongly in favor of us issuing a letter to the board of
Selectmen asking them to please strongly consider adding five hours a week because the Conservation Commission is in every way a town Department that is as busy or busier than other comparable departments which
have either full-time staff full-time office managers and um it's fantastic that we now have some uh support with our meeting minutes but at the same time Lisa has barely enough time to do the work of a conservation agent while she's
simultaneously doing the work of a conservation agent and an office manager um so I would really like to uh I'd feel strongly if we could issue a letter to the Bo of Selectmen asking them to please if the if the levy capacity and the budget permits to please strongly
consider prioritizing bringing her up to 30 hours because right now I mean uh I feel like as far as running the department and providing service to the residents I feel like we have a Band-Aid on a broken arm right now as it is and
uh I would really like to see her made whole and see her brought up to 30 and um I think that that would be okay a big value all right I'm going to add something to that in a minute do you have any comments
second okay uh we have an account right now it's the filing fee account on which we have 30 some K and
um if they are unable to find the resources to add five hours in I would uh like to offer that account to go into her
salary to go into the extra five hours it's funding that we currently have it's not the roll back money uh that is pretty much depleted um but it's the filing fees uh and I'm not sure if we're going
to have um it's called the wetlands protection act funds yeah okay Wetland protection act funds um we are also uh depending uh based upon the reply that we get from the Attorney General's
office on our new bylaw um regulations uh we may have additional funds I don't know where those funds that are coming in because we're going to have an application fee um and and that I'm going to assume will go
into that well and protection fund fee which would add to that figure that I just mentioned uh so we could uh probably uh uh cover five hours a week for the next um three
years if if if it had to be that way I would rather see it come out of the uh uh the general funds uh and to go from there for the record Mr chairman I'm not playing video games so no no I you want
I'm not worried I I know I know what you so uh so what I just did is I just set an appointment for myself for next Wednesday because uh if you were amendable if the commissioner is amendable what I could do is the division of local Services runs an attorney of the day uh program to the
mass uh Municipal Financial law Bureau where between uh between it's either 8 12 or 10 and 2 I forget there's a 4 Hour window on Wednesday mornings where um local officials can go have a zoom call
with a DLS attorney who specializes in Municipal Financial law and um if the commission is amendable I would be happy to ask Kim one if it's permissible for us to use those Wetland fees to pay departmental Personnel expenses we are we already have the info but you can ask
again yeah but we already have it okay and then the other thing that I would ask is how we could structure a revolving fund based on the fee schedule that we previously uh I think that's going to be important the fees coming in with all fees because right now uh a a
sum of money every time Lisa checks a septic system funds come in for conservation but we don't get them right oh wait wait wait that back up we do oh we have been since April or was We were supposed to be oh we're supposed to
that's different yeah so back in November of 23 I asked Moren to follow up on the wetlands protection act fun and she sent an email
out do you want me to read it paraphrase it is okay she needs clarification of when conservation receives C filings um were we we were under the impression that the money was legal allowed to be used by the Conservation Commission and we recently
found that the money is going into the general fund do you have any insight this is an email she sent to um Mac the MAAC organization Max Association of conservation Commissioners and she got a response
from the director who said where she can find the tips on all this information and then um the ultimate
the end result was um that we should discuss it with the town treasur Town Administrator and possibly Town Council and share this information so it was shared I believe but let me just say um
in addition to discussing appropriate uses of wetland fees these documents also speak about setting up an account for separate filing fees Mike Fleming's tips article also ref to this topic I don't know whether D meeting ever
authorized a revolving fund account according to Charlie it was and so since this time I believe that's when it's been a separate line item I I don't know when the separate line it but there is a separate line item in there but it says
setting up the Wetland protection act fund these must be kept separate from any fees assessed persu to local Wetlands bylaw or ordinance fees protection act fees are typically held in the revolving fund under Mass General law
44 section 53e one2 but only if a revolving fund account has been authorized by town meeting city council or mayor vote should specify anticipated amount authorized to be spent and permissible
uses of the fund any unexpected balance of the funds remains in a revolving account at the end of the fiscal year can only be spent if it's authorized by town meeting as part of this reauthorization of the revolving fund for the next fiscal year otherwise
excess funds revert to Sur plusus Revenue if no revolving fund is voted the commission does not get to use the money the collective FEA deposit into the town's general fund persu to General law 44 section 53 so that's why it's
been getting closed out to the general fund because we haven't been reauthorizing the revolving fun continually every year the revolving funds town meeting has to approve them every year so it sounds like because that laps that balance closed out to the general we do have one with
33,000 so I don't really understand that because we certainly didn't go 33,000 in the past six months well that's what we but that's we got that account though we can author we can vote to authorize that if they
accept uh an additional 5 hours I have all this okay all right um all right right now it appears you know that we're all in agreement for at least to get five hours so a letter can go to
the selectman requesting that an additional at Lisa gets an additional five hours per week uh um from the general funds if it is possible
for uh uh funding to be made in this manner to withdraw that sum from the Wetland protection fund that the commission holds I would definitely be amendable to
that the only thing I'd like to do is would just be just get clarification from whether it's DLS attorney of the day or town councel I'd like I'd like to measure twice okay if it's otherwise permissible yeah absolutely okay can can you uh you going
to find this out on what Wednesday yes okay can we vote to okay first of all okay well I'll authorize you to do that we don't have to vote on that but but to um request an extra five hours per
week uh for Lisa if we vote on that and then how it's the the letter is worded will be up to us or me or whatever but you know how you know you know what my thoughts are on that yeah from the general funds or
from the Wetland protection act funds that the commission holds yeah um would you like a motion yes please uh I would like to propose a motion to issue a letter from the commission to the board of Selectmen requesting that they please give Lisa an extra five hours and make the budget available to do so through
the general fund and um I I'll make another Motion in just a minute regarding the other funds I'll just make that Standalone motion for now uh okay is there a second I second all in favor I I uh can I make another
motion Mr chairman yes you may I I would like to propose a motion uh contingent upon legal approval to utilize any other available trust agency or revolving funds in the event that Lisa is not able to procure five additional hours to the
general fund in order for the commission to authorize those funds to be dispersed to Grant her the additional five hours available Department funds you get all that call me on Monday extension 106 uh is there a second I second all in favor
I hi and Dave says I so it's all eyes all right my son's call got the eyes Okay um wow okay so there just be time to no we're going to we're going to go
into um a secret session now executive session I I think we have to do the disclaimer first to enter Executives and then just announce that we won't be re reentering open session okay um the
uh the chair wishes to go into executive session uh under chapter Mass General Law chapter 3A uh 218 and two to discuss pending uh litigation uh the there will
be no new business after this executive session the meeting will be uh uh called back to order and closed without any new Revelations thank you good night cable
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