WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=hzy1qR799q8 Part: 1 1 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:33.000 This meeting is open. This is a meeting that is being recorded video and audio for cable broadcast internet provider. Okay, will everyone stand please for the pledge of allegiance? 2 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:57.040 >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Our first item on the agenda is a notice of intent application from John Paul 3 00:00:57.040 --> 00:01:17.600 Rossi of Seneca. Anyone here to represent them? Lisa, did they ask for a continuance? >> No, but we can provide one on their behalf. >> Okay. Uh okay, we this is for muddy coal pond and the 4 00:01:17.600 --> 00:01:42.880 lowering of the water. Okay, is there a motion then to continue this site? >> So moved. >> Second. All in favor. >> Aye. >> Uh the continuance Lisa, July what? >> 16th. >> 16th? Okay, to July 16th. 5 00:01:42.880 --> 00:01:59.520 Next on the agenda is a notice of resource area delineation. It's an application from Victor [clears throat] De Silva for property at 2689 Courtland Road, uh map 21 lot 33. The 6 00:01:59.520 --> 00:02:19.480 The request is to review and approve the wetland resource area, file number 17-534. Anyone here representing them? Lisa, that had that went out for a peer review. >> Yes, 7 00:02:19.480 --> 00:02:37.080 Marty started the peer review and she had some concerns about the lines that she was working with the wetland scientist. And apparently they went out there yesterday and today. She's finalizing her report 8 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:55.959 and they did request to continue it. >> Okay, motion to continue this hearing to July 16th. >> So moved. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Aye. >> [snorts] >> Next on the agenda is 9 00:02:55.959 --> 00:03:12.640 another notice of resource area delineation from Victor De Silva property. I'm sorry, I I skipped a line. Abbreviation noted. Yeah, abbreviated notice of resource area delineation from 10 00:03:12.640 --> 00:03:32.120 Joseph Mota for property at 0 William Street, map 21 lot 34B. File number 17-535. Lisa, that is in the same category. The uh line has not been 11 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:49.080 delineated completely yet. So we need a continuance for that. Is there a motion? >> So [clears throat] moved. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Correction, it was delineated. It just needs to be confirmed by the wetland scientist. They're working together to figure out 12 00:03:49.080 --> 00:04:04.640 the actual edge. >> Okay, well there was I know there was problem that it was done in the winter and the snow and other elements hindered the correct delineation. >> Correct. 13 00:04:04.640 --> 00:04:21.560 >> Okay. Next on the agenda is a notice of intent application from Scott and Barbara Papa at 1503 Smith Street, map 11, lot 69 for an addition and new driveway on an existing 14 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:42.160 dwelling map MassDEP number 17-539. >> Hi. Do you have your Is it site here for your presentation or not yet? >> I do not. I [snorts] was under the understanding they were coming. 15 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:59.400 >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Been the same correspondence as we were, so Yeah. Okay. >> Do they come often because I know I was at the old the other building. >> Um if you have his number, what I'll do is I'll I'll delay 16 00:04:59.400 --> 00:05:15.240 the item. >> Do you have his number? I think it's on the application. So, let me dig it out for you. That would be great. >> Okay. Is there a motion to delay this item in the agenda to to sometime 17 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:32.240 later. >> [laughter] >> So moved and a moment. >> Okay. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> Aye. >> Okay. So, we'll we'll give him time to come in then and if he's over there >> that. >> Okay. 18 00:05:33.398 --> 00:05:53.440 >> [clears throat] >> Okay. Next on the agenda is it is certificate of compliance. We have none that have been requested as of right now. The following that is an enforcement order Uh for 18 Hatch Street. 19 00:05:53.440 --> 00:06:10.360 It was on our bylaw and it was issued 6 2024. A second enforcement order was 11 4 25 and um I know that the builder is here with with 20 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:26.480 Are you his agent or >> Yeah, Victor is my partner. >> Okay. Right now, we you came in, you spoke with Lisa and myself and you are in the process of getting a plan 21 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:44.520 to rehab the property. Uh besides that uh you're looking for Once that plan is developed and we approve it, you're looking for a partial certificate of compliance which 22 00:06:44.520 --> 00:07:01.480 will permit you to sell the house, but in the meantime, you will be funding an escrow account for the new owner so that they can continue the rehab work. >> Yes, that's correct. >> Okay, just that's all on public record now 23 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:17.520 and we're good to go with you then. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> All right, the job of from the other side like I spoke you guys the other day of I'm going to be able to work and the like to the other side. I don't want to touch anything here. Where the west side >> The west side is not in our 24 00:07:17.520 --> 00:07:33.000 jurisdiction. >> Okay. West of the house. Yeah. >> All right, cuz I'm going to >> You know, um just an item that I think I sent it to you. I know you get the back of the house, you get the leaching field and 25 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:50.720 probably as you do some work there in the future, you had it kind of funnel to the house. That's you're going to correct that so that >> correct that. That's the other day you showed me. Okay. I'm just looking out for the new homeowner's protection. 26 00:07:51.080 --> 00:08:07.480 You don't want that water running into the house. Okay, I guess we're all set there. >> Well, can we I'd like to know the status So, can you let us know where we have not heard only >> Okay, then one thing 27 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:23.480 >> from your >> I'm going to put it on the money right there for the other guys to do the work. That way you can put the money in hold right there for the other guys to do >> Well, Brad pretty much has to tell everybody what needs to be fixed. >> Well, that's something I'm going to get back 28 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:39.520 to him tomorrow and That's the point about those guys work. Brad needs to speak. >> Yeah. >> We'll do the work together. And then between my lawyers >> Great. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> I think what we're getting somewhere. >> Okay. Thank you. I'm full of drive. 29 00:08:39.520 --> 00:08:55.000 >> All right. >> Very good. >> God bless. >> Thank you very much. >> July 16th, but if we happen to meet sooner, maybe we could if we have everything from you, maybe we could schedule a short meeting. >> Lisa, I don't know if you want this. >> Okay. >> Thank you so much. >> Okay. >> You're welcome. 30 00:08:55.000 --> 00:09:11.440 >> Junior, hang on. This is from Brad. >> Oh, you got it? >> That's what he said needs to be done. >> Oh. Yeah, he already gave us this. >> Okay. >> Yeah, thank you. >> All right. >> That's what he submitted with the ask for. 31 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:27.280 >> Thank you. Thank you both. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Next is enforcement order zero Main Street. Issued 10 28 25. Restoration plan received. Can you give us an update, Lisa? 32 00:09:27.280 --> 00:09:43.200 >> We don't have an update. So, I was hoping they could have they would have responded in the email. Um So, I was looking to see did they do the planting yet, restoration work yet? I don't think they have. I think they will be doing it. >> Okay. >> I know 33 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:59.080 Dave lives near there and he's been seeing some activity. But >> Okay. Well, it's a tough time to do restoration work. We haven't had a good rain storm in 2 months. >> No, I know, but did they already do it in April, you know, I don't know if they did it in May or 34 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:22.320 >> unless they tapped into uh Dave's water line. >> [laughter] >> All right, so what I'm going to do is I'm going to email them and at least ask to get keep us updated and are we to expect it to be done in the fall? >> Okay, that sounds good. 35 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:39.280 Okay, uh 2673 Park Avenue, uh violation observed, uh Lisa? >> Um yeah, so I do have an update. I did receive an email and there was some maintenance that they needed to make, 36 00:10:39.280 --> 00:10:55.280 um which is totally acceptable. The only thing is I did remind the owner of that when they do make the make do the complete the maintenance before they complete it, they're supposed to keep us surprised and I did speak with the harbormaster and that is the way it's supposed to go. They're supposed to 37 00:10:55.280 --> 00:11:11.080 notify us. Um the maintenance was due to heavy freezing over the winter. So >> Well, by notifying us, what that does is it prevents this commission ness and you in 38 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:27.640 particular from getting unnecessary phone calls. Or being able to answer them on the spot. >> like Yeah, and we don't want to discourage people from calling. I mean, obviously if someone has a concern about something, they should call. >> But you would have the an answer right on the spot for them. 39 00:11:27.640 --> 00:11:43.240 Next is 826 William Street, Uh, new violation observed. >> Um, yeah. So, I did have a direction in order to follow up on this one. Um, 40 00:11:43.240 --> 00:12:00.440 so, a little background. The site adjacent, Mr. Pacheco was before us a few months ago. Do you remember we we permitted a single family house for them on a large large linear lot. 41 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:16.360 It has has like the segment against it where the creek crosses and they put a house at the front. Um, while doing inspections there, Dave and I have been witnessing [clears throat] uh, the new owners next door 42 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:32.760 kind of taking >> Yes, I've been there as well. >> So, when I introduced myself to the gentleman, he told me he was going to operate his contractor business out of there. So, I shared an office with the zoning department and asked if they had a special permit or 43 00:12:32.760 --> 00:12:49.440 anything, but they didn't. So, um, >> Well, that's also uh, next to a public service public water supply, which would be uh, >> Yeah. >> uh, rather difficult to to deal with. >> Well, and that's a very small area and 44 00:12:49.440 --> 00:13:05.600 they have a lot of machinery there right now. So, it's like a little concerning. Um, the interim building inspector called me over and we met Jim and I met with him uh, yesterday and him and I are going to take a ride over and introduce ourselves 45 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:20.360 and uh, I will would like to issue him this enforcement order cuz Dave and I had already met him once and told him the backyard is completely off limits. And >> It's 46 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:36.840 It's a high mound right now with all the >> and you know, exposed dirt and all of [clears throat] those controls. No permits to do anything. Machinery is there. >> No. >> where the the riverfront area comes up how close to the house? Do you have any idea? 47 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:53.640 >> Well, the flood zone comes up. Um no, I'd have to bring over a river hawk. >> Okay, now that's that's all right. I didn't know if you knew off hand. >> Basically, Mr. Chico's land with the wetlands goes right that he had flagged goes right behind this yard. 48 00:13:53.640 --> 00:14:09.720 >> so then there's a a lot of limitations as far as all that. >> Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously if they're trying to change something, they have to work with us on it. And I had already told >> Yeah, okay. >> I told him that. 49 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:26.840 >> Is that the place we went before they even started? >> Yeah. >> You and I? >> Indeed, yeah, through all that together. >> Yeah. >> Same ones, so We were there in March. So, I um I requested that here. So, that's an enforcement order. 50 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:43.200 >> Oh, okay. >> I mean, I find I think that verbal warning was enough. >> Okay, so uh we uh need to vote for an official uh enforcement order from the commission. Uh is there a motion 51 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:59.200 to to issue an enforcement order uh um to the residents of 6 826 William Street. >> So moved. >> I'll second that. All in favor? All right. 52 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:30.560 Okay, um let's see. Uh Lisa, there's a >> [clears throat] >> There's no um I have to see if she's here. Okay. There you are. >> I'm going to pass it off. Okay. 53 00:15:30.560 --> 00:16:00.120 Uh pass it over to Jack, please. >> [snorts] >> Any but not nobody yet? >> No. Can I ask a question? Does someone have to like present the case? You have the whole case in front of you. Like I guess I don't understand. >> No, I can do that. >> I can't do that. >> Okay, just just give us a minute here. 54 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:15.120 We're signing uh here. >> Truly appreciate it. If you tell me I can I'm a social worker, so this isn't going to help you, but I can talk to what's in front of me. >> What? >> We can't do it. They need to present it to the record. She has a representative 55 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:31.240 on the application. >> Well, we can still hear what she wants to say uh >> She's going to present her own plan, but he keeps you aware. >> All right. >> I've never seen that. >> Well, if she's paying for the plan, it's now her plan. 56 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:47.880 >> She has She has to present it as he wrote it up, like I'm going to read his word. Um not yet. >> I don't want to show myself, but >> Not yet. No, please. >> [laughter] >> So, I just want to get back to this one. This one um 57 00:16:47.880 --> 00:17:06.360 >> Oh, here here. This is that goes with that. >> This one I was thinking was outside the buffer zone, but it's not. So, Chico had it flagged. The buffer zone, just so you guys know, comes all [clears throat] the way up to the back of the hot brown. 58 00:17:06.360 --> 00:17:27.800 >> So, then then he's then he's going to >> It drops right off when you get to the edge of his lawn >> Right. >> into a flagged wetland. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I just wanted you guys to know. >> I know it. Okay. Okay. 59 00:17:27.800 --> 00:17:51.240 I'm opposed to to her telling us what they're going to do without reading the plan. Just tell us what they're going to do. We won't act on it. I don't think we Uh anybody else's opinion uh >> We don't have the time, so >> So, we can't get a building permit 60 00:17:51.240 --> 00:18:07.080 because of this, correct? Even though there's like an existing driveway in there. It won't build it. >> So, the existing driveway is being permitted through this. Cuz it was never previously permitted. Yeah. 61 00:18:07.080 --> 00:18:22.840 >> Is this replacement driveway going in the same spot? >> Exactly. >> Yes. >> Yes, yes, it is. >> And you're going to make it bigger? >> It's not going to be any bigger. No. No, it's not going to be any The driveway is actually going to be smaller. 62 00:18:22.840 --> 00:18:39.360 It's just going to come straight in now. That's the only >> No, it's an addition. >> But this is an addition though. Yes. 22 ft taking half the driveway up. >> The driveway that's there now, 20 22 ft of that present driveway will be gone. 63 00:18:39.360 --> 00:18:55.840 And the driveway >> So, before we start discussing it cuz we have a woman that takes the minutes, it's going to get very complicated for her unless you come up to the microphone. So, if you want to come up to the microphone >> Okay. And for the minute taker, we are now 64 00:18:55.840 --> 00:19:18.800 evaluating the [clears throat] uh notice of intent application from Scott and Barbara Papa. >> Let me get the >> Absolutely. >> I'll pass out the plan so the guys can see it. >> Cuz I'm one of those too. >> Um 65 00:19:18.800 --> 00:19:35.920 the plan needed some change a change so I pulled in sight. >> Okay. >> The post in the back yard. >> Okay. >> I I know I spoke with you about that but um They had already made a couple of changes before 66 00:19:35.920 --> 00:20:01.520 they made this [snorts] change because I had already reviewed it once. >> Okay. Jack, if you want to slide in here, Jack. Um okay, so here um the proposal Where is the Where Where's the street here? Here's the street here. 67 00:20:01.520 --> 00:20:16.560 Um Left and right Left and right are over here. Okay. Okay, so so this is the uh Oh, I see. Okay. Here's the um >> small >> So this new addition that's going on here. 68 00:20:16.560 --> 00:20:32.560 >> So there should be a garage right here. >> ft. >> So they're roughly >> [clears throat] >> And so existing drive Now, that's Can you copy from >> This is the existing one. >> Okay, so so 69 00:20:32.560 --> 00:20:49.120 This is the The dark line is the house? >> That's correct. >> And this is the new Where's the new addition >> going to be? >> This is the new addition. >> Oh, this is that is the new addition. Okay. >> And this is This is a driveway that already exists. They're trying to permit it. >> This is not a new So So the driveway 70 00:20:49.120 --> 00:21:03.720 goes all the way down to here now cuz here's a This is a garage. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So So this much This part is going to be new right right here. >> At least you said that was not new. >> Actually, no, there'll be no driveway there at all. That's what I'm >> No, but that's the house though. >> That's correct. That is the new house, 22 ft. >> new addition to the house. >> That's correct. 71 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:20.240 >> And so this is the 100-ft buffer. So if that's the 100-ft buffer, then they're still outside of the 50-ft. >> Yep. So, what >> And it's all staked out. >> So, 25-ft mark, 100-ft >> I requested that I requested that it all be staked 72 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:35.680 out. >> Yeah. >> Um it was all staked out. David and I went out and we checked the wetlands delineation. The wetlands delineation looks accurate. >> This has been a 2-month project that we've been >> You know, I'm I'm not opposed to going >> What What you have to understand is the 73 00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:50.760 building the builders applied for the building permit before this, and then I caught it. I called I called Insight cuz they did the plan, and I said, "Well, you when the buffer's on, we need a notice of intent." They 74 00:21:50.760 --> 00:22:07.600 knew they needed a notice of intent, but they didn't advise you as to that. I don't know why they didn't. >> Well, they didn't Well, I >> You're right. I don't I don't understand why they're not here. >> We're just trying to get a small addition done to a property that's 75 00:22:07.600 --> 00:22:24.320 already there. We're not No No way near Quite honestly, you've been out there Besides it's wet out there anymore. It's been wet there in 15 years. Quite honestly. We're going to whistle drive and it's all quite I I don't want to get into a whole state's law. If the state went in there and actually staked it and 76 00:22:24.320 --> 00:22:40.720 did this, half of that wouldn't even be wetlands anymore. But I don't I don't want to >> It was flagged by a wetlands scientist last year. And we don't need to go back and forth, but this is a flood zone here, too. >> Yeah. >> Um anyway, I don't have a problem with the project. >> You know, I I don't have a problem at 77 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:57.320 all with the project. >> I just want to make sure the posts and the flag gets go up. At this point >> would be in the order of conditions. >> Right. >> We'll do anything you say. We just want to start. >> You know, I just want to Okay. I I personally am not opposed to 78 00:22:57.320 --> 00:23:12.680 going ahead and approving this with conditions. I don't know how everyone else feels. It looks like everyone's in agreement. >> to lose >> Well, you know, you have to tell your builder to not be a bully, too, because he's been really bullying. He's been 79 00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:30.000 bullying me through my town administrator, and it's not right. I'm a woman, and I deserve respect. >> At this point, though, >> I know his I know his background. I know where he came from. I know how he feels, but we're not him, okay? 80 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:46.120 >> So, I've been nothing but cordial to you. >> I just want you to know that your process It was a process that everybody has to go through. It's nothing that you picked [clears throat] on me about, you know what I mean? We weren't picking on you. 81 00:23:47.080 --> 00:24:02.040 >> We don't feel like we're being picked on. We just want this to be done in a in a in a process. >> But I said in the in the past month, I got a call about >> We've had many, many problems. The building department, "Oh, you don't 82 00:24:02.040 --> 00:24:18.400 need this. You don't need that." The zoning board, all of them. And then when all the trouble ends up, and everybody's mad, they're all here. And this whole board has had enough. 83 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:36.040 Okay? Now, if the builders got a problem with her, that's too bad. You build houses. Wetlands are wetlands. Water is water. It runs downhill. It It gets caught in puddles. And like I say, we're just going through 84 00:24:36.040 --> 00:24:52.520 the process. >> You know, and >> And if the engineer >> If I could If I could on the same on the same >> If the engineer Excuse me. If the engineer knew that required a permit, it wasn't him to all try and go around it. No more going around it. 85 00:24:52.520 --> 00:25:09.200 >> I don't Again, I don't believe any of that was happening. And And And you're basing you're basing all this on past relationships where that that's not right. you. And we're not trying to we're just trying Barbara and I are coming in here >> I got an idea. Let's everyone quiet down 86 00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:25.320 for a moment. And do I do I hear a motion from someone on Wait, you you you can't make a motion. >> No, you have you can't forget the post in the packet so we do need an edit to the plan. 87 00:25:25.320 --> 00:25:42.280 >> We want I'm sorry. >> We need an edit to the plan. >> Well, that that is going to be part of it. You can give them a call and say that we can approve this with appropriate edit to the plan and the and the artist. 88 00:25:42.280 --> 00:25:58.280 And we can get doing it because um map wise that looks good. >> Right. >> Is it okay, let me just >> thing I just want to make clear is we do when we issue a permit we issue 89 00:25:58.280 --> 00:26:14.280 an order condition and it gets recorded to the deed. But so basically until that's done you're not supposed to start anything. I had I had talked with the building commissioner yesterday and I guessed >> How long is the process for that? 90 00:26:14.280 --> 00:26:30.360 >> I have 3 weeks to issue it but I told the building department yesterday >> that long. >> I told the building commissioner I told him can I finish? I told the building department yesterday I would get it out within a week. I'm one person part time for this volunteer commission. 91 00:26:30.360 --> 00:26:44.920 >> I don't appreciate the way you builders speak to people. >> again Barbara Barbara >> Talk to the commission. >> Again, her relationship with John should not be held against us. Number one, okay? We are just trying to commit. 92 00:26:44.920 --> 00:27:00.200 We're going on over 40 almost 60 days since we put this application. We've jumped through every single hoop. We put this Do I get Barbara, Barbara please. I get to Lisa we gave you the time to talk. I should also be afforded the time to give my side of the story, please. 93 00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:15.320 We've done everything asked. I mean I'm sure Lisa will attest to that at some point. All we're asking for is that we be afforded the same rights everybody else is regardless of who my builder is or any of that. We will do anything we ask, but if I don't get approval, I'm going 94 00:27:15.320 --> 00:27:31.560 to have zero building in a week. >> Okay. >> That's my problem. >> Firstly, well, I I know I know where where this is heading and if you will be silent for 30 seconds, is there a motion? >> So moved. >> A motion Wait a minute. Make the mo- 95 00:27:31.560 --> 00:27:46.280 make the motion >> I'll ma- I'll make the motion. >> conditions >> with the motion with conditions on 1503 Smith Street map 11 lot 69. >> with a revised >> Issue an order of conditions. 96 00:27:46.280 --> 00:28:04.000 >> to issue an order of conditions >> pending >> pending >> Yeah. >> All right, let's remake up the map. >> pending a revised plan in the proposal in the background >> Okay. Pen- Okay. Revised plan uh showing 97 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:20.040 >> Diana knew I I don't know if the message ever got over to him. >> I wasn't in that course. >> So, uh okay, is there a second? >> Second. >> I'll second it. >> We got We got three seconds. That's good. Uh all in favor. >> Aye. >> Okay. You are good to go. 98 00:28:20.040 --> 00:28:35.240 >> Thank you. >> Now, make sure that uh you're not going anywhere unless you get that revised plan in and whatever's on the order of conditions to be fulfilled. But you're you're But you're on your way. When you get the order of 99 00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:52.400 conditions, then you can bring it down to Court Street in Taunton. You can do it yourself uh posting on the uh on your deed and it'll take you in what, 15 minutes maybe. >> When you leave, then >> Okay. >> I just want to explain to you like how we communicate over the next week and 100 00:28:52.400 --> 00:29:06.440 you can whether you want to pick them up or may I'm assuming pick them up now rather >> Yes. >> So, I'll contact Barbara. They'll pick them up. What What we do now is I agree they're doing them right there because then 101 00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:23.640 there's no later oh, I had no idea this was in here. Um and then you we pour it like you said. And at once you have your erosion controls in, that's when I sign off on the building permit. That's the point where I sign off. >> Can you say that statement again, 102 00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:39.840 please? >> Once you have your erosion controls in according to the plan, that's when the building permit gets signed off on. I've already been in >> I don't even know what that is. >> Erosion controls just those uh wild those wild that you see on the highway and stuff they're just long tubes of hay 103 00:29:39.840 --> 00:29:56.440 >> It's any silt outside the line. >> Yep. >> Keep any dirt from going >> But that needs to go up too. >> All right. I You know, I after all this confusion at the beginning, I I hope that >> You have to >> we have a very satisfactory solution, resolution. Okay. 104 00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:10.680 >> Thank you very much. >> Okay. >> Good night. >> Good luck. >> Okay, yeah. Uh Okay. >> [clears throat] >> Yeah, but I mean I have Yes. I know. 105 00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:51.560 >> So, that's I mean I I just wanted to have you >> [laughter] >> Okay, I'm going to wait till Lisa returns. Uh Um That's it, right? She said Uh >> Well, we know we No, no, we got we got things coming. Reorganization and 106 00:30:54.920 --> 00:31:25.960 Well, no, that's that's going to be you, too. >> [clears throat] >> Okay. Okay. Mark Yeah. I mean, >> [clears throat] >> we're on tape now, so uh >> [laughter] >> Uh 107 00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:41.200 are you going to be interested in becoming a a member or you just still uh >> I can start down that road. >> You're going to go down that road. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh well, what you would do there is send a 108 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:56.560 a letter of request to to the to the commission seeking uh uh membership and then we would then uh accept it and forward it to the selectmen as well. And then and then appointment is done through the 109 00:31:56.560 --> 00:32:13.320 selectmen. >> Okay. >> But and almost every meeting is much longer than this. This is Right now, this is Last one was quick. This one here is is quick and as soon as Lisa comes back after 110 00:32:13.320 --> 00:32:28.200 discussing whatever out there. >> Actually, you can go on the town of Dayton website to the Conservation Committee and there's you can fill in an application right there send it to Karen in care of Karen Brady 111 00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:46.200 and then it'll get sifted to Board of Selectmen. >> Okay. >> You know, and what what would happen is we would act on at our next meeting, which is uh July 16th. And then um and then from there it goes to the 112 00:32:46.200 --> 00:33:05.280 selectmen after we make our request. >> I physically went to Calgary and said, "Listen, >> Okay. You know, it's uh >> Uh Bob, would you mind calling Lisa back? >> Yeah. Um you know, [clears throat] 113 00:33:05.280 --> 00:33:21.840 I mean, I kind of got the gist of what's what she's talking about, but it's taking up from the from the mayor. >> I actually only work for four hours. I work for Big Y Club. >> And through them? 114 00:33:23.668 --> 00:33:41.000 >> [snorts and clears throat] >> She knew me there. >> She knew me there. >> I've been up >> How long was that? >> Last week it snowed. >> 9:00 this >> I spotted the car. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> [clears throat] >> Okay. >> Are we already done with the meeting? 115 00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:58.960 >> Uh yes, you're holding us up now. If you want to go home, go bowling. >> No, I'm not going bowling. >> Uh okay. Bills payable, are we all set with that? >> Um Yeah. Okay. >> Uh next is 116 00:33:59.040 --> 00:34:15.720 Uh reorganization of members. And and we're doing this in in two separate parts. Uh one is for uh chairman. Now, I had notified the commission that uh uh after 5 years or so, I think that uh 117 00:34:15.720 --> 00:34:32.120 being chair uh is sufficient more than sufficient time to put in uh as that. And so, it's up to the membership then is to pick a new chair. So, uh I'm going to leave it up to you folks to um 118 00:34:32.120 --> 00:34:51.520 to pick a new chair, and then we would vote on it. >> [snorts] >> You need a nomination? >> Yes, you need need a nomination. >> I'll nominate Dave Phillips. >> Is there any other any other nominations? Okay, 119 00:34:51.520 --> 00:35:11.880 Dave Phillips and you are willing to accept the >> think he's been here long enough for that. >> Dave, you are you're willing to accept that? >> Uh what's the definition of willing? >> [laughter] >> Is there Is there a second to [laughter] that motion? 120 00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:27.200 >> I'll second it. >> Okay, all in favor? >> Aye. >> Congratulations Dave. And and as you as you know >> I'll try to do my best to fill your shoes. >> So so this will be This will become effective This will become effective I have a 121 00:35:27.200 --> 00:35:44.120 small problem. >> Good luck. >> Uh this will become effective on uh in July 1st after this meeting for our next one. >> Well, actually it's tomorrow but uh um >> Okay, next we have a vacancy on the commission. So we have to reorganize 122 00:35:44.120 --> 00:36:00.120 that. Uh the vacancy is is by the the leaving of of Paul who's been on the commission for I think 3 years. Um I think it's 3 years and he opted not to uh 123 00:36:00.120 --> 00:36:15.320 be appointed uh a second time. Uh so we have two um associate members here and we need uh to have one selected to fill in the 124 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:32.280 shoes of of Paul. Is there a motion to nominate uh a new full-time member? >> Motion to approve Mr. Lawrence as a full-time member on the 125 00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:46.720 Conservation Committee in Dighton, Massachusetts. >> I'll second. >> I'll there's there's a second. Okay, all in favor. >> Aye. >> Okay, Lisa, uh could you just notify on Monday we can notify the selectmen that 126 00:36:46.720 --> 00:37:05.440 Jason is now the uh full-time uh member to the commission. Okay. >> Yep, you got it. >> All right. So, that that'll fill our ranks and and and it will still keep us in very good order with uh uh 127 00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:21.960 uh one associate member still on the commission and another and an application that will be coming in uh from uh a new applicant and uh I think the commission will be at and will have uh 128 00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:38.880 great input from all these people uh through whether you are a contractor, whether you are wetlands, and I know Mark has has more frogs on his property. I think he sends them down to my house. >> [laughter] >> And uh 129 00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:53.560 you know, I I I think that we are going to be at in excellent condition. Um Okay, now we have uh signature authorization. Uh certainly uh Dave is going to we're going to have to motion 130 00:37:53.560 --> 00:38:11.960 that that he be the primary signatory for the commission. And if we want an alternate uh that can be done as well. Um what's this? >> Signature authorization. >> Okay, um 131 00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:29.160 >> I need to sign here, Lisa. >> Now, uh Okay, uh do we have a motion that that Paul be the primary, uh Dave, I'm sorry, uh uh uh uh uh Dave be the primary signatory for the commission. 132 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:46.640 Is there a motion? >> Yeah, I make a motion that Dave be the primary signatory. >> Second. >> I second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. Uh do you want an alternate? >> It would be good to have an alternate. >> I'm sorry? >> It would be good to have someone that 133 00:38:46.640 --> 00:39:02.880 can >> Uh yeah, Paul was our last alternate cuz he wasn't town at all. I was primary then and then he was the alternate. So so um if if one person is not available, the other one can sign. So um >> Want to give 134 00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:18.760 >> Yeah, I I there's no problem. I'll I'll I'll take it. >> be the alternate. >> Jim should be the alternate. >> Make a motion to have Jim as the alternate. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. >> All right. Alicia, what's my title? I'm just a commissioner right now, right? 135 00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:40.360 >> No, you're the chair. >> I don't Did they just vote you out as chair? >> Huh? Yes, but as of July 1st. >> Oh, yeah. >> No, I have tomorrow to just say >> No, actually tomorrow, but no one's >> You're right. >> We got a crown and a ceremony coming on 136 00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:59.200 along? >> [laughter] >> Okay. Uh Alicia, any uh correspondence? >> [laughter] >> Alicia, any correspondence? >> Um >> [applause] >> No, but we have we have public input here. 137 00:39:59.200 --> 00:40:15.720 >> Oh, that's coming. Public input is next. >> actually correspondence, I'm sorry. Lantern fly. I think you might have the invasive lantern fly in town right now, which [snorts] goes and attacks trees. We already have the emerald ash borer, but 138 00:40:15.720 --> 00:40:31.080 um so this >> No. >> It was spotted on William Street. They asked me if I knew and I said contact the state. >> What is it? Lantern fly? >> Lantern fly. >> [clears throat] >> If If anybody's interested, they can 139 00:40:31.080 --> 00:40:47.880 Google it. There's resources on mass.gov on how to um what to do if you think you have a lantern fly on your property. >> Okay. >> Um What else was there? The bill that the amendments didn't go through. 140 00:40:47.880 --> 00:41:02.200 >> Okay. Yeah, the uh somebody in the state was adding amendments to uh to do away or to greatly eliminate uh our pots of 141 00:41:02.200 --> 00:41:19.600 local bylaws, commission bylaws, and and it appears as though that amendment uh failed. I mean you know, these people in these in these uh cities uh they don't have what we have. They they don't realize that we want to preserve 142 00:41:19.600 --> 00:41:35.200 all the good things that towns want, whether it's Dighton, Berkeley, Rehoboth, or Attleboro, or any place, uh or it's just some big business that wants to get away with um >> all the home housing 143 00:41:35.200 --> 00:41:52.160 >> Yeah, following the rules and don't care about our wetlands and our wildlife. They care about the bottom line only. And uh that's why we're here to to protect what we have. Okay, uh public input. 144 00:41:52.160 --> 00:42:07.240 >> Yeah, so we uh we can vote on the meeting uh minutes of the meeting. >> Oh, wait. Where was that? I'm sorry. Thank you. >> Back page, first item. >> Okay, I I skipped one. Um we have uh minutes minutes um 145 00:42:07.240 --> 00:42:23.760 from um uh February 19th, uh 2026. Is there a motion to uh accept those minutes with some modification. >> So moved. >> Is there a second? >> Okay, all in favor? 146 00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:38.920 >> Aye. >> Okay, now we have the minutes of May 21st. Is there a motion to accept with some modification, whether it be spelling or or some, you know, minor adjustment? Is there a motion? 147 00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:54.040 >> I'll second. >> Okay, motion made by Dave, seconded by Bill. All in favor? >> Aye. >> Okay, public input. Who's first? >> I'm ready. 148 00:42:54.040 --> 00:43:11.000 >> No input? Okay, I guess we're ready for adjournment then. >> Motion to adjourn. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> Aye. >> I live on the street about mowing the lawn. Mowing the grass. 149 00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:28.320 >> I'm sorry. >> William Street, Steve Pacheco. I got Steve Pacheco. >> Can you go up to the podium, Steve? >> Uh Why didn't you speak in public input, sir? >> I It's my first meeting, so I don't know 150 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:42.960 what I mean, well, I thought we were talking about >> Well, congratulations, Dave, but let's start there. I hope >> I thank you. >> It's definitely not your first meeting, though. >> What's that? Well, I was quiet. I was sitting silent. And I'm I'm not doing the mic. I think you guys can hear me fine. Steve 151 00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:59.440 Pacheco, I purchased 802 William Street. It consists of 46 acres of land. Majority of the land is owned as wetlands. The issue I have is the grass is just getting out of control. It's just growing naturally, 152 00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:14.440 and we can't even take advantage walk back there. We have to infested with ticks. So, what I'm asking is I have a professional farmer that wants to mow that property back there. When I first purchased the property, it had already 153 00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:30.360 been mowed recently. So, from a just a management perspective, um, it had been mowed within the last year and a half, I would say. Um, but all I'm asking is >> [clears throat] >> just to mow that grass so we can take advantage of it and not be >> Okay, I I 154 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:46.320 I'm going to stop you there. 802 Williams, you said. >> Yeah. >> So, this is on the uh west side and uh >> Jim, this is the new house that we permitted. >> Okay. Oh, that's Okay, that's the one next door to the one that we were talking about earlier. All right. Okay. 155 00:44:46.320 --> 00:45:01.560 >> There's a new house that then it drops down into a very big swamp with a secondary access road that is grass. >> Okay. All right. No, no, I I I thought it might have been slightly different. Uh I knew it was in that vicinity. Okay, but I'm sorry. Go ahead. 156 00:45:01.560 --> 00:45:17.920 >> That That's it. Uh just asking to mow it and not destroy wetlands or not even be in close to the river, by the way. >> Well, you know, certainly you're not going to mow into the wetlands. >> Well, Jim, everything beyond his house is wetlands. >> Oh, okay. 157 00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:35.000 >> But it was a farm not too long ago. >> So, yeah. So, did you look into the regulations like I suggested? >> You sent me all 200 pages, yeah. I tried to get through it, but I didn't get through it. >> [laughter] >> I couldn't squeeze it in. I'm a I'm a slow reader, by the way. 158 00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:51.920 >> had a path. It's 3 ft or 4 ft, something like that, in the wetlands itself. That's exempt from the wetlands protection act. >> Do you like chickens? Chickens eat a lot of bugs. 159 00:45:51.920 --> 00:46:07.760 >> But this this all goes eventually. House breaks first and >> 5 years. >> Yeah. >> But if you lease it to a farmer, and could work with them to figure that out. >> Oh, so you can at least ask the guy next door to mow. >> Lisa >> [laughter] 160 00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:23.240 >> Lisa, have you been you've been to the property several times then? >> Yes, we have. >> Okay. Could you >> property. >> Could you define how far you know, go on site and just say this is how far you can mow? >> Yeah. No, 161 00:46:23.240 --> 00:46:40.400 you you you literally step off of his backyard where the erosion controls are. It drops down and it is wetlands the whole way. So, we've got to figure out if there's a way he can mow it. I I I don't know if you contacted Bob. Did you? 162 00:46:40.400 --> 00:47:00.160 >> No. >> Cuz >> I'm broke after Bob's services. >> [laughter] >> process cuz ultimately we purchased that land to basically bring it back to an operating farm. What is [clears throat] that What does that process look like? I know you sent 163 00:47:00.160 --> 00:47:16.880 me those documents. Again, I have I've read through all of them. >> The farm probably was where your house is and not in the wetlands. >> No, I believe there's a stone wall. There's a roadway through there and there's a huge field out back. 164 00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:33.360 >> Yeah, the Camby has used to farm that too. >> Yeah. >> Uh I know it's probably like one of the most the better farming properties. >> No question about it. >> But the problem is it's already overgrown to like shrubs and trees. 165 00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:49.040 >> Not in the farm area though. Because as I said, recently mowed when we first looked at that property. It's now it's just grass that's just growing. >> So, I would be willing to discuss with the commission possibly cutting it once or twice a year. 166 00:47:49.040 --> 00:48:05.120 >> Yeah. >> But I think like you have to work with someone like Bob to come up with some sort of a management plan for it. Does that make sense to you guys? Cuz if you go out there right now, there's monarchs, there's all sorts of like >> What if he turns it back into a farm? 167 00:48:05.120 --> 00:48:22.280 >> Well, that's different. That >> plows it and >> Because it's lost its farm characteristics already, then it becomes a new and it has to follow all the regulations. >> It's not in land and agricultural use right now. >> Oh, so he can go to farm commission and 168 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:36.920 try to get the state down >> Only he hasn't gone back yet. That's That's >> You should talk to the You should You should talk to the agricultural >> That's USDA. >> USDA. >> You know, and what I said, you know, if you get do get to cut it 169 00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:52.560 really chickens I think No, they eat everything. >> How many chickens for 45 acres of land over >> [laughter] >> Well, it's a lot of eggs. You know, we'll have free eggs in the front yard. >> [laughter] 170 00:48:52.560 --> 00:49:08.640 >> Actually, guinea hens are better. >> Okay. All right. Did you get anything that you needed out of this? >> So, can I mow or can I not? >> [laughter] >> You said >> Mow it twice a year. >> You can't You can't mow right now 171 00:49:08.640 --> 00:49:25.000 without some sort of a plan where you want to mow and what exactly >> Not even a pathway? >> A path Well, I think it's either 4 ft or 3 ft that they they Well, that's protection act. >> It's in that regulation. 172 00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:40.920 >> Yeah, the 200 pages, right? >> Yeah, you You can word search path >> Okay. >> And it's in there. >> It It is narrow path. >> Can you work with him to try to find that? >> Well, if it's in there, I can find it. >> It's in there. >> We have the eye. We can do a quick >> It's in there, but the other route would 173 00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:59.680 be to go to the USDA and register as the You're still in that land do some agriculture on there. Sell $1,000 worth a year. You're in agriculture. >> Okay. >> Well, then you'll be doing agriculture. >> Yeah. 174 00:49:59.680 --> 00:50:15.040 >> The light could probably help you with some of that. >> Okay. >> They have offices and agents over there for some of that. >> To assist. Okay. >> Yeah. >> You have to get information. Get in contact with them. >> Okay. I appreciate it. 175 00:50:15.040 --> 00:50:31.360 >> Your order specifies no insects, no pesticides, no fertilizers. >> Right. Right. >> On your property. So, like, whatever you would do out there would have to be organic. >> Okay. Yeah. That's You make more money with organic food, right? 176 00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:47.920 >> Yeah. >> All right. Okay. So, I'll read the 200 pages the >> Identify the path like >> Well, this land and agricultural use book that I gave you, right? That's 177 00:50:47.920 --> 00:51:04.240 actually really easy to read. Did I give it to you? >> Yeah, it wasn't bad. A lot A lot of it was nonsense that I went through, but uh >> I have a paper copy. If you want, I can print you a paper copy. >> No, if you send it to me, that's fine. No, that's fine. >> If I didn't send it, let me know, but 178 00:51:04.240 --> 00:51:21.320 it's It's called the farm manual. Do you remember me sending you that? >> I'm pretty sure I have that. So, I have Yeah. >> mass.gov, just look it up. >> So, it's So, it's all online. >> Yeah, it's all online. >> So, okay. So, to have a clear understanding depending on what the 200 179 00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:36.960 pages says with respect to a path, >> Yeah. >> I'll be able to do that. >> I don't have a problem with as long as we have some sort of a management plan from you >> Yeah. >> in writing, it's attached to kind of 180 00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:52.920 document what you're saying and then a cut because it can get out of hand really quickly. Some people before you know it will have a road out there. I I know I'm not saying you would, but and 181 00:51:52.920 --> 00:52:09.800 >> Motor homes, just bring them all in. >> [laughter] >> Now, do you do you burn firewood to heat your house? >> But for the pollinators, you know, like only cutting it twice a year is usually preferable. >> Okay. Okay. 182 00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:24.280 >> So, I think we can figure something out for you, but we need to know like a little more about where Where do you want the path? >> Yeah. >> You have streams that crisscross that are hydrologically connected. Do you know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> And if 183 00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:40.720 the driest season to do it would be like Stop. That time of year I mean August, September. >> Okay. >> So, if we can figure this out, if you could want to come back to the next meeting see if we got anywhere with figuring it >> Yeah, draw it out in like chicken 184 00:52:40.720 --> 00:52:58.440 scratch ability. So, USDA? Okay. Yeah. >> And you can pull up some aerials of your property, too. Bob might already have them, but um to kind of show you where those top paths were some old aerials. 185 00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:15.880 >> Okay. >> Are you just keeping those clean? >> Thank you, folks. Thank you, guys. >> Thank you. >> Okay, uh is Is there anyone else on public input before I call for a vote? Since we have a motion made and seconded, uh that's pending. 186 00:53:15.880 --> 00:54:00.240 Anyone else? Okay, let's uh vote on the motion to adjourn. >> So moved. Second the motion. >> Okay, all in favor? >> Aye. >> Mhm.