Everybody stop. >> What? >> It's recording already. >> Oh, look at that. What? >> Hi. Hello, people. >> Everybody shot. Oh, everybody. Oh, everybody shot. Great. Let's put that Titans. How are you doing?
1 + 1 is yes I I text I said can you leave the key with either Shara or Leanne not knowing >> I should I should have just said you but she was like it depended what on who >> I'm not saying anything Yeah, that's
fine. >> I thought she left before even giving it to anybody. I was like over there. I just want to make chocolate for the record. >> You ready? >> Yeah. >> All right. I'm going to call the meeting
to order. >> What time is it? >> 6:01. >> 601. Let's stand for the pledge of disoriented like Ice to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it
stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Okay, this is the night historical commission meeting at um lower level at um town
hall and Zoom and um this agenda is subject to revisions and additions prior to the meeting. The listing of matters are those reasonably anticipated by the chair which may be discussed at the meeting. Not all items listed may in fact be discussed and other items not
listed may also be brought up for discussion to the extent permitted by law. Uh secretar's report. This is from January 13, 2026. Um >> um is there any amendments, changes?
>> I didn't see anything. I'll entertain a motion to accept the minutes as submitted. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Okay. Any discussion? No. All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. Remembrances.
>> Okay. >> I had jotted down a couple of uh people who had passed. I don't know whether everybody knows them or not. First one was Charles Melo. Passed away on January 15th of this year. 91 years old. He
lived at Center Street and was involved in the Hixon Tree Company that was on the corner of Center N138. >> And he was also a member of the Conservation Commission Dayton. >> That's right. >> Yeah. >> The other one um not so much
involved in town, but his mother is very active in town is a Jeffrey Andrews. He was only 56 years old. He lived on William Street in Dyton or North Dyon. His mother is Donna Andrews and she's very involved with the library book group >> and son.
>> Yes, he had been sick for a while. Oh, that's >> Yes. And then you me Pat mentioned to me that Ron Smith recently passed away was mentioned at selectman's meeting. He had been a member of our historical commission.
>> Yeah. >> And I wasn't aware of that. >> And I do believe he was also instrumental in getting the cable studio here >> in town cuz it used to be over like in Berkeley. So he was active in different committees um in town.
>> Oh wow. >> Yeah. So and he did serve on our historical commission for a while. He was very interested in history. >> So >> So that's all right. >> Okay. and Irene is going to take those over. So, she will take that over.
>> So, then what I'll do is I'll start sending you >> like a a report right be about a week before. Is that okay? Is that plenty of time? Yeah. >> Okay. So, about a week before in case you don't see anybody >> because sometimes we don't know because
they've been processed through a different town or whatever. But >> I'll still get something. >> Yeah. Yeah. I guess the general clerks do get >> Yeah. Well, we Yeah. information, >> right? >> Yeah. So, I can get them whenever the hospital they pass away at gives them to
you, right? >> Right. >> It's when I it's when I received >> thing like someone could have died a week ago, but >> I wouldn't know yet. >> But how how long does it get them? Does it take >> it could take um anywhere from a few days to like a few months depending if
it's pending depending on where it's done like where it you know where they processed it and stuff. So >> cuz if they process it through say Taton I don't even see it until maybe we look upuaries or something like that like
it's tough. Yeah. >> It's so weird because with all the vital records now that we need to have and we did it from the our new with our new Yeah, with our new system. Just because they lived in town doesn't mean like automatically we get it anymore. >> It's where they died in town.
>> Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. The town they died. So >> So if it's like Rhode Island, like I probably won't get it at all. Um unless we know about it. >> It's like in my like my was born in Rhode Island cuz I was born in Rhode Island Hospital. I've never spent a minute living in there, but I it
will say I was born in Rhode Island. It wasn't kind of thing. So, it's one of those things where Yeah. >> Okay. >> All right. Um, moving on. Unfinished business and update. So, Zach, anything on preserving memories? >> Yes. Um, I Well, yes, I know. I haven't
heard yet from Ron. Um, John, which is odd considering I >> Yeah. When I first started reaching out with him, we did play like email tag back and forth and um I know he's busy, but I this has been the longest I heard back
with him within a week, few days. >> Um it's just been the longest I've gone without hearing from him. So I don't know if the lost in the shuffle in his end. I So >> who was this? >> Uh Jungagat, sorry. I'm sorry. Um because he we knew that he was going to be a series
of events, sorry, series of episodes because he could not cover everything in in one. So he wanted to do like a the people of West Titan then like the places in Weston then the events in Weston kind of thing. And um
we knew that we wanted to do a part two with him eventually, but we didn't want the part two to be the second episode we came out with. >> We wanted something needed to like break it up kind of thing. So once I knew that just was done, I was ready to do that. And I um >> and he was interested in it. I don't I
doubt he's no longer interested in it, but um so I'm just going to have to reach out to him again and see if he's still interested. >> Um Joe Pico. >> Mhm. uh who was on the zoning committee for >> a long time. >> Ever. >> Yeah. >> Um he's very interested in doing it.
>> Oh, good. >> That's exciting. >> Yeah. I Yeah. Yeah. I mean I cuz he I don't know if he was like born and raised in Don kind of thing, but with how long he was on zoning for >> he would have seen a lot of things
happen in town. You know what I And I it will be interesting to have an interview with someone concern uh involving the history of town but from a >> different perspective. >> Well, not political but a civic perspective. You know what I mean? >> Is he also the inspector for like um
>> building septic systems? >> Oh yes. Yes. I know who you're talking about. >> Um >> so she's definitely interested in doing it. um haven't heard back from Christine Lynch yet and
oh Ken Bucho who it based on the house that he lives in he knows he's not born and raised a long time history name but he knows so much about the history of his house it belongs to Ezra Styles and everything so >> styles lived there so I thought >> h I said I was think like I guess who
said it has to be an oral history about their time in Don it could be about something that they know it kind of brought me back to the uh Cameron who was going to possibly do the one about Mal Hope. He was a young kid. >> Got nothing to do with his experiences. It has to do with some someone sharing an oral history about diet.
>> Oral history. >> It's preserving memories which makes it sound like it's like your memories, but >> but it's not it's not necessarily the focus of it. >> So, he was really interested in doing it. And I because I know that Dave is able to film things other places, I
thought, let's do it at your house. Mhm. >> So, um, and I but I just follow up with him. I just brought that up to him when we saw the Rachel River event. So, I got to follow up with him to find a good time and date to do that. But, um, >> that's good. >> That's good. Yeah, cuz he knows a lot about styles cuz that was all part of
the farm. He often teases he wants his farmland back >> like where my house is. >> Right. Right. Right. Right. Exactly. Exactly. >> That property went all over into that. >> Oh, god. Yeah. Yeah. Very much. I didn't realize it was that much. >> Um,
>> all right. So, we got some things in. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, for sure. Um, >> I did put my number on the card for Dorothy Perry. >> Oh. >> Um, and I gave I put down my number and
said, "Well, so I wish I put more than what I put in the card because Pat Olsen had suggested just mention that. Hey, you know, give me your number. You know, put down your number and just mention that very interested in talking to you about your history in Don, which I
thought was, oh, yeah, that's a good bit. In my head, I was like, I wish I sold it a bit more. I mentioned being a part of the commission, but I wish I like >> explain. I was going to put it in a note paper separately and put that in the card and then sign the card separately,
but like just put it right in the card. And now I'm like I wish I t you wrote a little more of a note to explain it. So like for all I don't know why I want to talk to this person. I don't know if she has called me. I haven't gotten a number from a Dyton a call from a Dyton number.
>> Oh I don't get any from Dyon but just because >> any 69 numbers I get is like here which is never really cuz Carrie have you know my cell phone but um >> now wish Don would she be 823? She could be
>> possibly. But I mean, I also never haven't gotten any voicemails from anybody. I don't know either. Okay. >> Well, from from like they're all spam calls. I haven't gotten a voicemail. So, like if she tried to contact me, like I don't I'm not aware that she has yet.
>> It might um to contact her nephew. His name is Bruce. >> Okay. Bruce, you don't have to do you want to give any more information right now on while we record? >> I'd have to I'd have to look at I'll look at it. I'm not sure. Okay. Maybe even just looking. Is it is it is the
last name Perry? >> I'm not sure. >> Okay. Okay. I can even do a Facebook thing. Like I that's how I contacted Joe. >> Yeah. >> Cuz like I asked my dad if he had Jos's uh email. He's like, "Ah, I don't know what Joe's email would be." So I asked my dad for his phone number. He didn't have it on at the moment. I was like, "I
just I know Joe's on Facebook. Let me just try." And I'm not friends with him. So like I can't see all of his posts, but I saw that he had posted something like a day ago. I'm like, "Oh, so he actively goes on Facebook. I'll just try messaging him." He messaged me back like 5 minutes later saying yes, super interested. Like, you know, I was like,
"Okay, who I didn't think that Joe was going to get back to me on Facebook Messenger, but he did." So, >> that's awesome. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Good. Well, that comes along. That's coming along nicely. >> Definitely. Oh, one thing when I was watching it in the credits, can you ask
Dave to put, you know, he put um the guest and then he put your name and his name after your name? Can you just put Dyon Historical Commission? >> Good idea. You know, >> yeah, >> I am going to be honest. I haven't watched them. >> Oh,
>> I don't I won't be I won't go to enjoy it. I can't I cannot hear myself. >> I I >> I can't do it. I can't I I will It will literally give me anxiety point. And I'm not going to watch it. >> Listen to your voice. >> Like like listen to the sound of your own voice. Like >> cuz you don't sound the same. >> I hate it. Hate it. Hate it. Hate it. Hate it.
>> I'm the same way. I'm the same way. >> It's the point. I love it. >> I' I've done it for like if I'm like back when I did theater, if I'm like rehearsing a monologue for a show, I want to hear how it sounds like I or like something like singing like I I I'm fine with that. But hearing myself
conversationally, I detest it to the point that like it would I'd rather watch it with subtitles. Seriously, I you know what I mean? So like I haven't I haven't seen a second of it. >> So I watched the the one with John was really good. That's the one I watched and I and then I was like, "Oh, the
credits are coming." And I I don't know. And I was like, "Oh, but it would be nice to see cuz it's like it's like our zo after your name to Historical Commission." I do from what I I turn my mute off my thing. I don't want to go on
vac. I did notice I don't didn't care for not care for how it was titled. I don't know if I it was on how it was titled. >> Um Jeez,
>> maybe it was on Facebook. I saw it. Um, >> you're really good at it. You'd be able to find it, right? >> What? >> You be able to find any one of those. >> All right. >> But it was a little um like it like it
was just like like in Noral History or something. It was like well it wasn't it's not the same title of the series that we're going with. >> Yeah. So, it was one of those things I was like, "Oh, I" >> Because you want it to be consistent thank Yeah. Yeah. Um consistency with it
no matter what format. >> And again, it's absolutely nothing against, you know, the uh Dave or anything. It's more just like, "Oh, I probably should have been more clear like this is what we're we're calling it." >> You mentioned those two things that the titles. >> Yeah. If Mafia, you're able to find it
faster than I am. That's all right. >> So just you know those two things because I went through it and I was like you know here we are preserving you know history. There's no mention of the historical commission that we are the >> the ones that put this together. Yeah
>> that it's our our program. >> Oh okay. Okay. So it's act so it's preserving memories of dy in oral history. Oh, >> which is like I think we've just been calling it preserving memories of Don. >> Yeah. >> So it's almost like if we're going to
call it that then like what are we calling it kind of thing. I mean >> I think we should keep it at that preserving memories of Dyon and just >> so so yeah. So I guess if you can edit it and then going forward just don't have the inhor I don't want to be too clunky. Do you know you know what I mean
>> because that is very clunky at the end. Okay. Or or or if you want to do preserving memories of Dyon colon and oral history or something like that. >> Just preserving memories of Don. Yeah, >> I've heard >> put Don historical commission at the end.
>> I know when we first first first started doing it like we would say preserving Ditton's memories is how we talk about it and then we say preserving memories of Dian's like okay which which one are we going to go with? So I think that preserving memories of Dyan is perfect. Okay. Okay.
>> All right. Maybe you should interview Pat Olsen. >> You could. Pat knows a lot. I I think more than I can even like >> her son. >> Yeah, if they maybe together. >> Yeah, that' be great.
>> She really does. Yeah. Yeah. R knows a lot, too. >> Yeah. You think she would? Who wouldn't hurt to ask? She's met her son like I like what is her son in town? Is he active? >> He was a he was um head of the water
department for a long time or something. >> You can tell about the sewers or something. >> Oh, okay. Like I've heard the name now that I'm Greg. >> Yeah. >> Oh, I know. Greg.
Oh, >> yeah. Oh. Hey, I didn't even know how you put two and two together to be honest. >> Okay, shower. >> I follow. >> All right. Um, historical markers. >> Yeah. What about it?
>> So, >> I'm set up from now on. You ever ask me question? Yeah. What about it? >> So, I wanted to say thank you for sending me the specs. By the way, I cannot find like the the specs for the wood. the historical markers.
>> So I made I made something similar but unfortunately like I can't get the >> This is what you can buy. >> You This is what you can buy. No. So I did this. I'm I'm unhappy. >> You're unhappy?
>> Well, because this is it's over just an inch. >> So I You mean Sorry. What's over just an inch? >> Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I think I'm going to take this off. I'm going to repaint because I'm OCD. And I'm going to go over just because I want
to make one for myself. >> And are you the border too close? >> I I I was going to say, did you want to intentionally write on the line like that? >> No. I like unfortunately it's very hard to because of the ends. It's very hard to actually >> I mean the I like the color though and
the and like the color of the font looks very much like what we're going. >> Where did you get the Where did you get the font? I I have it on my cricket. >> You can just like put Yeah, >> but this is like premium by like this is premium just like this. This is premium. But this you can't even like if I start
taking this off, it's going to start taking paint off. >> Oh, the funny thing is I just took my finger over this and I was like, "Oh, I'm already pulling it up." I feel like I did not feel on that one. >> No, because this is actually very >> almost like permanent. >> That is sturdy. >> Yeah. And all and all you have to do for
this kind of is that um once I fix this um all you have to do is just spray it and this will never ever >> correct. So it won't be nope like this. >> It's not going to be raised like this >> without being super >> because you can feel that it's much and
if I started to like take off and I don't mind taking off one piece because I have to repaint it anyways. But it's like >> Oh yeah, I can tell you're >> literally like >> wow. Yeah, even that much chipping it was I thought for sure >> it's not chipping. >> No, >> you can it's harder. And that's that's
without it being um >> that's actually without it being uh weatherized or anything. The the font's not the exact same. >> It's not. I get it's very close. Really >> very hard to figure out because what happens is um when you go on to like
your Cricut Design Space thing, you have to kind of match up the closest thing you can get. But unless I know what font that is, >> you can um >> Oh, well, I did not know you could do that. Whatever you're doing, you >> No, there's a there's a website that you
can exact mention. No, I wish it was. >> You can't get this. You can't get this dimension like just to buy it. >> Is this the one that Papa Chica made? >> No, that's the one from the second place that we used that we didn't like. >> Oh, okay.
>> The one in Rain and then Paul used it as a um model for >> I'll tell you it's close, >> right? The color >> even the size >> I mean that I bought from um that was basically from Yeah, that's pretty
close. >> How many other sizes? >> I bought that from um Michaels. The the wood I had to order the um actual uh vinyl because it's I'm specific on >> Close enough and I literally took that
and I kind of did this. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, serious. That's what you're supposed to do, >> right? So, that that's as close as I can match, but that unfortunately I couldn't get a regular piece of oval wood >> without the lip.
>> So, this is an amazing site. It's >> unless I'm better. >> I'm just saying this is this is DIY. Okay. >> That's >> okay. So, you're missing the two dots in the store. >> Yes, I know. >> There is a site that you can upload a
picture. Unfortunately, my two dots when I uh >> and it tells you what font it is >> based on your dog eat them. >> No, I didn't do this enough. >> So, I lost my >> So, yeah. >> Closest to what we >> So, so I'm going to definitely take this
off, re repaint, and then push over. >> Are you going to >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, that Yeah. So, it's it's sealed. Cuz like that's the problem with this. it's not sealed and we can feel where it start coming up very
quickly. >> Um the other thing is when we were at the budget meeting >> um >> Kevin was sitting there Kevin Smith >> Yeah. >> and he said get him get the plaque to
him and he will bring it to be >> yeah to see if >> Oh my god think about that >> if to work with him. So Shara was talking, she, you know, was saying maybe the wood going with wood rather than P PVC is the way to go. Um
because I don't see them having that like, you know what I mean? That kind of >> Yeah. >> composite where this like a a wood as long as you really treat it, you know, really weatherize it, it'll >> last a long time. >> Yeah.
>> Now, Old Colony had the composite material. That's amazing that they did, >> but they didn't have >> this word letters. >> Right. So, I'm going to get >> uh get this to Kevin.
Um tell them that we we would even consider wood. >> Yeah. >> You know. >> Yeah. >> But they definitely have to use a little bit better of a >> Why wouldn't they see? >> I don't know why. So when we went there,
they had >> shop. They should have everything. >> Okay. Yeah. I didn't know. >> Yeah. >> But yeah, see like that that I can lift up easily. >> So um so we have another, you know, a couple of avenues. Uh when I did talk
with um um Ralph and Serena for our the meeting with their budget, um the markers came up cuz we always put in for at least one, you know, thing in um one marker in our budget for the town for the historic
town buildings. And they're like, "Huh?" You know, and he that's when he brought up peach signs again. >> And um they're like, "Oh, what about wood?" And I was like, I know other commissions that are cutting out their own wood and then they might take it to a, you know, a shop and they'll do it.
Um, it's a lot of back work, but um, they might be willing to work with us and see what else we can figure out, too. >> I mean, that I mean, that looks nice, too. Like, if they have that kind of material, right? >> Yeah. Kevin stepped, you know, was sitting there and he said, you know, just get it to me and we'll see what we
can do >> um, >> with BP. I don't have the best service on here, so it took me a long time. But by the time that maybe you go tonight, I can like show you on the website like what fonts it detects. >> Okay. >> So, um just try to get as close as we can.
>> Hey. Um that's cool. All right. >> Yeah. So, we're make baby steps, I guess we call it. >> Yeah. >> Backwards. I will say of all the when when I first started on the on the commission,
>> the products that we're talked about being talked about, this is the only one that's solo in the middle. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> At least like gotten going or started new things and >> yeah, we were making progress on it and then >> Yeah. >> And then Yeah, we just >> call Yeah.
>> Yeah. fell off that ra radar. So anyway, very good. So I'll contact Kevin and we'll go from there. Yeah. And if they don't have the vinyl, I can even let like let you guys know what vinyl I use because it really is good.
>> I can tell I've had a I did call Peach >> and I spoke with a woman. She said equipment is currently down. >> Okay. >> They don't know, you know, when it's going to be fixed. So, >> okay. >> That's limbo right there. So, we don't really want to wait too long.
>> Right. Right. No. Right. Okay. So, um, Irene, anything on >> Oh, yes. I've been working on this. I ended up going on Facebook to look at the brick church to see if there was a minister's name there or anything else.
I did find an email address. So, this afternoon I did that and I had written to Reverend Owens because I guess that's who the gentleman was that's been there as the minister. >> And I put, "My name is Irene Ellie. I am a member of the Dayton Historical Commission. I have been trying to
contact you regarding the brick church and any plans to celebrate the 250th celebration for 2026. I have been asked by the commission if the church community will be celebrating any special events for this year, especially with the history of the church with the towns of Wellington and
Dyon. I said, "If you could contact me via my home phone number or my email address, I would appreciate it." as I've tried to contact the church through the phone and have not heard back. Not even
oh a couple minutes later I get a response >> not thinking that my brickchurch@gmail.com is going to work >> because why would all the things that you would think would reverse right? >> So anyway he goes hello Miss Irene this
is Reverend I guess that's how he goes by. I am no longer at the brick church. >> I have retired and I'm living in Florida now. I am sorry. I have not heard much from the church since then. The church manager that was there with me has also
since left. It appears that their phone and website are no longer active either. So, I don't know where to go from there. I'm sorry. >> Oh, interesting. Okay. >> And there's weird. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You lost all contact with the church.
Well, he's retired. Yeah, he has no need to he lost contact. He has no need to contact. >> When did he retire? >> Um, >> I don't know when. >> Didn't say when he retired. >> Um, >> it would just like pop up in person
church, >> but they, you know, my brickurch@gmail.com. This is what >> you would think, why would he even have access to it if he has since retired? Like, like, why would that? >> I don't know. >> Because he probably made the Gmail. Yeah, >> could have been. >> But but why would he not the church?
>> But why would he even go back and monitor it? You know what I mean? Like he's not >> Well, unless it popped up, you know, today cuz I just I went through Facebook. I you know, the phone number that's there that I've called several times and got no answer. Um there's
another w.mmybrick.org. I didn't try that. I figured, well, I'll try the >> Is the church even open the day of service? >> I think so. I think. Oh, >> and I don't actually join the service. >> I can I I'll reach out to MNA. She might
know someone who attends. >> I bet you will. >> Yeah, I'll do that. >> Well, at least I got some kind of a thing that I can bring back to this meeting >> and I I was like shocked that, you know, that he's no longer affiliated, but they've got him still listed on there.
>> Right. So clearly whoever if it's if I mean it's been >> you'll never figure it out. I think >> they clearly they haven't updated it either on their end. So it's kind of like >> it's basically finding somebody like you said that actually >> Yeah. Yeah. I that's
>> who owns the building. So they still do. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And it's one of It's not the oldest church. The Dy Community Church is the oldest one. >> Yeah. But because >> one of the oldest it's the the
congregation itself >> is the building the building the building is not the oldest but the congregation cuz it was the that was the first congregational church was >> so it goes the first meeting house on Elm Street you know the one way then it
goes the meeting house on Buckplane. >> Yeah. And then that same congregation then builds the brick church and part of the people go to the second congregational church which was the um which is now the community church. >> Oh, right, right, right, right.
>> Oh, so their congregation is split then. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Cuz there was a an issue with where the placement of it was on Buck Plain because the people that were in the lower four corners here wanted it closer cuz that was like the people coming from
Pleasant Street. It was the people coming from across the river, you know, from Berkeley and stuff, you know, it they wanted it closer. >> Yeah. That kind of led over one with the fact that the wells and the split, right? >> Oh, no. No, it wasn't that. No, it wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't that house. It was >> It was >> later on.
>> Yeah. Split was in the 18. Right. 1814. Yeah. >> So, anyway, at least I got >> Facebook. At least we have an answer. You know, like >> Yeah. >> A reason as to why >> the last Facebook >> Facebook post July 2024. 24. >> It's a link to a YouTube video.
>> Oh, so they don't have anyone that's monitoring. >> Maybe the congregation now is just so small they don't have they don't have a need to update on Facebook anymore. They probably don't care about >> That's what I was thinking. Maybe they have gotten so small >> cuz Ma did mention to me that like a lot
of those are just like >> it's not as popular not there anymore. the interest is not or that >> well it's true of like many church many >> right oh yeah she may not specifically >> but I was
>> at least I got something going and I was surprised to get an answer back and >> that quickly that quickly too >> so I we'll just follow through see what we can do with it you know contact there and um >> just pop up one >> do we want to mention the thing that
we're possibly talking about doing Wellington >> um can Maybe I should give a sermon. >> Huh? >> I should give a sermon to that church. >> Oh, there you go. >> All right. So, we'll see what we can do there. Um
the plaque for Katherine Yell for the town flag. So, I emailed you the samples, >> the two um >> two different ones. There's two different ones. One is the walnut. Um the one the one with the design in it,
>> the um grooves. >> The grooves. That is walnut. That one is 9 by 12 and a 6x9 plaque would go on it. That one is $92. >> Where is it?
>> The one without the grooves is imitation cherry. It's 8 by 10. A 7 by9 plaque would go on it. And that is $39. >> Wow. >> I was looking at the plaque that's
there. That looks darker. It doesn't look like cherry. >> You're right. Yeah. >> So, I think the walnut one would be a better >> and the price of it is so significant. >> Um I like the walnut one. I like the
design on it. Yeah. Um, I also sent you, you know, the layout and everything. Um, so took a couple of edits with him, but we finally got it.
>> Yeah. No, it's nice. My computer just didn't fill the right way. >> So, you're not looking. Uh, just a question for you is um I know you're going to think about putting on on that plaque, but if you Yep. But if you can you um flip one page. Sorry. That's not
going to have the designs on the corners, right? Cuz that'll look very >> I'll ask him that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Cuz that's going to be too much >> too many and bring up and bring up the price, >> I would imagine. >> No, no, no. Oh, really? >> No.
>> This is already engraved here. What she's talking about is you don't want that. Yeah. That would be almost a little bit strange >> because all the engraving is included. >> Oh, I see. Oh, okay. >> So, that would be, you know, like on the
gold piece of it and it would be um I don't know. Good question, though. >> Mhm. Because it would make more sense if that was on the plane because it has a design, but if you're I would take the design out. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> All right. So, I'll ask how about the
scrolling around here. Yeah, because you wouldn't want to put the scrolling on the >> with that being there. Yeah. >> It would make it too much, >> right? >> It's kind of like when you're making a cocktail and it's like you use like a lemon lime soda and then do like a lemon
lime liquor. It's like well no like you have the flavor of that. You need to combine it both flavors. Never mind. I guess if you >> was funny, one thing I didn't think of today was we didn't talk about shipping with him. Um
he was in like at the Fall River Westport line, but he doesn't have a shop there anymore. So I, you know, we picked up the things from him before. So he's still in the area. I mean, if we can meet RA and go pick it up somewhere rather than pay shipping, I mean, that's
not a problem. Yeah. you know. So, um, all right. Do we want to have a motion to approve the purchase of the plaque? And which one do we want? >> I mean, is it worth the extra $60 when we have
such a very limited budget? I I know >> we have to use it. One, we have to use the budget. >> We have two. >> Yeah. But, >> and two, I mean, it's it's one time. It's not like it's oh yeah, >> you know, it's a one time and and I
think >> How much do you have left in our budget right now? >> 500. >> Oh jeez. Okay, never mind. We have way more than what I thought. Never mind. >> Yeah, but I'm thinking that it's only a one time purchase. I look nice >> aesthetically and what was there was already on the wall. And I think this
one the closest. >> It's closer rather than the cherry. I think the walnut is the closer one >> than the cherry one. >> Mhm. That's how I was looking at it. >> I completely agree. Now, I don't know why when I saw the email, I thought
I think when I was looked at fast, I thought one was like 192 and like it was like versus 39. I was like, really going to pay >> that much? But but then now I know we have that one in the budget. Like, oh god, yeah, go on for sure. I >> I I think it's, you know, it she
deserves it. I agree. Mhm. Um she did a lot you know she so >> but like Sher is saying maybe you might want to just take this. >> Yeah I will converse with him. We want the words you know and the >> and the Yep.
>> And then we will >> because this will encapsulate it. So >> Right. Right. >> Which may which may be his intent. I don't know. Good point though. Um all right. So, a motion to approve the
purchase of the engraved plaque honoring Katherine Yell, the creator of the town flag for $92. >> So moved. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any further discussion? Seeing none, all in favor? I.
>> Okay. So once we receive the plaque, we'll set up a a meeting at a board selectman's um meeting um to present it and we'll include Cat's um family. >> Yeah, >> her sister Moderate is still around. I
think I whoever else moderate knows I Oh, and Joanne is around too, so we will include and I think her son. >> Great. Yeah, that would be nice. >> Yeah. So all righty time capsule. So I
did talk to the this was a long time ago but I did talk to the trustees after our January meeting about them having the time capsule in the library and they agreed that it it certainly belonged there. We talked about where to put it
um and all of that. Um they suggested that it be locked because they said if in 50 years or when they open it, you know, if they have to break the lock, they can break the lock, you know, but they did agree that the library is a
good place to be the the caretaker of it. >> So, um >> Oh, now here's a question. keeper and caretaker. Does that mean we sign over literally and figuratively?
Like it's no longer our project because they're like or is it or is it like still like when we go to open it, is it a library people that open it or is it open? >> Should be a joint. >> Yeah, I think >> and and I'm not trying to be picky but like not by like you know whether the
commission still exists or tears. >> That's a good point too. Um, >> and if the library does, I'm not I'm making a joke, but like I mean, who knows? >> I think with it, we put a a statement letter then saying that >> I would like to just because I don't
like the idea of like we're doing all the work and it's like, oh, it's like it's like their thing now. If if that's what we want to do and sign over to them, then we can vote to do that. I just don't know like, you know, how it's I wouldn't want to say like them to think, well, it's ours. We said we're the ones holding on to it. It's like >> I think it should be both. I think
>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, I don't care which one is it. just we make make it clear whichever one we want it to be. >> Yeah. Cuz I think 50 years from now that's kind of cool, you know. >> Oh, I think I'm going to be here. >> If you are, then they came out with
something amazing. >> I mean, they came out with some really good stuff. 126 years old. >> That's what I'm saying. >> I'm right behind you. Yeah, we're all going to >> I certainly won't be my 100.
>> I'm not I'm not making them to 93. I'm not making 93. That's not happening. >> I might. Yeah. Yeah. >> Longevity there. >> Yes. >> We'll do cryogenics. >> And then they'll be using you for preserving memories of
>> Oh, I hate Twitter right now. Shar, I have things to say. I think I think we should I think we should have a copy of this video and a time capsule >> so they understand. >> Yeah. Look at how the title will be the
official language, >> right? And there's always that problem is going to be they won't have the technology to play it. >> What's the cloud? What are you iconic cloud? What are you talking about? In 50 years, is that still going to be? >> I still I can still access like old
websites from like 25 30 years ago >> through way back when. >> Really? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Wow. >> As long as as long as that website is like not every website, but like as long as the website has been >> Okay.
>> Yeah. Anyway, um but with the time capsule then now that we have a place to put in all that, are we going to re like reinventory what's in it and see if we're happy with what's in it and then make another call? >> As we're we know RAPA has some of this stuff and I thought we were going to do
things through 2026. >> I think it would be cool to wait to also memorialize the unit this year too. >> Yeah. And put that in. And um I mean we could if cuz we could put it there, put what we have in it and then add keep adding to it.
>> So that's what I was going to say too like >> so do we put it under lock and seal quote unquote with the library once everything is in it or is it going to be something that we going to put there and then we have access to go back to it when we want to for the rest of the year. >> I think we should wait.
>> We want to wait. >> Yeah. because it seems a little bit, you know, if we >> wait till the almost the year or so we're set. Maybe July 4th. >> We'll wait till 20 to the end of 2020. >> Yeah. Wait calendar year because we might have some. >> So, I'm thinking if it's there and then
all of a sudden we're just adding random. >> It's going to be, oh, I'm going to go buy go buy drop this off. I'm buy drop this off and like Yeah. Plus, I think too, like let's say we have it >> if we put one of the coins in >> and then you've got Frank coin too. >> I don't know. She hasn't asked her about
that. She >> think there's any more of those around. >> Well, we have a there's a picture of it. I you there's a book that's called Don Through Time. There's one that's called Rahoba Through Time. And there's a actually I took I took a picture of it's in the library, but I took a picture of the picture cuz I never even saw it
before. I just knew it was the thing. Um, >> I have a Dyon Francis coin. You've never seen one? I'll bring one. >> No, I saw a picture of it. >> Have any at the society. What is it? Not for sale. >> Oh, >> yeah. I have I have for sale like half. Yeah, >> I think I've got >> It's right here. This is a picture of
the picture. >> I have one. Yeah. >> Picture mark. It's a picture from the book of it. >> Yeah. >> Who was it that posed for it? It's not her obviously, right? >> Um, it was um Mrs. um May Cumber. Um cuz the um Allison May
Cumber designed it and he he lived in Dyton. He lived on Center Street and he used his wife as a model. >> Is there a reverse tied to it? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I don't even think that the part of the book >> I'll bring it. I'll bring >> I have one up in the um in the vault. >> This is what I love about history like
people writing it. The person of this book wrote it depicts an image of Francis Titan >> and it doesn't. It's not Francis Titan. >> Well, because there is no image. No, but like but like the fact that like if you didn't know, you might read that and go, "Oh, that's her." >> Yeah. >> But like, you know, >> but it says it depicts
>> something. Yeah. But I mean I guess I mean kind of like the way we're like keeping the memory of the flag like it might be cool to say who it was. >> Not in this book per se, but like I don't know. >> I don't know if we we talked Well, the time capsule was really we started in 2023
because that was the commission's 50th. >> Mhm. So we have those things to put in. So it's more like the 50th celebration things rather than just history of Dyon, >> right? That's true. Cuz then we're ready to stop, >> right? >> Are you going to put one of those coins
in there? We can buy one for >> it. And if we do the rest of the year, >> I think that would be a great idea. >> Should the commission buy it? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I think we'll put pictures of the reenactment and from the fall, >> right? like this, you know, I think we
should like December 31st should like legit be the day we seal it off. Not May if we have a ceremony after it, but like I think that should be the last day of stuff. >> Yeah. Okay. >> You can have a thing. Yeah. >> Unless we're waiting on like unless we have a late an event late in the year that we want to include in it that we wait.
>> The latest event would be the um unveiling of the Revolutionary War um memorial. >> What's that going to be? >> The Veterans Day in November. >> So, >> yeah. Yeah. >> Um,
so thinking about buying the coin. Do we want to take the vote now or do we want to wait until the next meeting or >> why why do you want to wait? >> We can take the vote now. I mean the reason so like unless people
don't want to >> decide that now but I don't see why we need to wait right. >> Okay. Okay. So um I need a motion to purchase a um gosh talk about draw 250th anniversary of America coin. Talk
about drawing a blank. It happens. Um, and they for $25. >> So moved. >> Is second. >> Any further any further discussion? >> No. >> No. All right. >> What kind of time capsule are we going
to order? What's about the coin? >> This is the coin right now. >> Got to make a minute. >> We'll do this and then we'll talk about that. >> Okay. Um, so the motion is to purchase a a 250th anniversary of America coin for
$25. There's >> representing the town of Dayton. >> representing the town of Titan. And is there any further discussion? All in favor? All in favor? >> I opposed. It passes. All right. So we will do
that. Yeah, I think that's a cool ad. >> And you don't want to wait too long. You might >> lose out on them. >> Yep. >> Maybe we can put the copy of the walking book tour brochure in there. >> Yep. >> That that's I know it's a that those events aren't per but
>> no events that that took place during the year, the time capsule kind of thing. >> All right. Now, wrap a a container. Well, I I was looking at um Amazon. >> Yeah. >> And I see a lot of these like um
stainless steel like like in the shape of a cylinder or something and you can just lock it stuff as much as you want and then but they they come in different sizes. So, I don't know. We have to decide how big um container do we want.
>> Yeah. I looked at them briefly and I I kind of like the ones that look more like a a treasure chest. This is This is what they had in Somerset. >> Yeah. >> So, this is Somerset. >> Somerset. Yeah. There's >> And >> this is This is amazing. Amazing.
>> Anybody see? >> Yeah. >> I mean, no. So, this is clearly >> an old a repurposed structure, >> but everything there is behind glass >> like like a plexiglass.
Like you can see you can kind of see the reflection in it. Yeah. >> So, you can see like you can see some stuff, but there's some stuff sealed in envelopes. The names I think are just like it might say like Beos Bank. It would say like the Historical Commission. It would say like a family who whoever put things in there and the
stuff on the bottom down there. >> It is very cool. I like it. The only thing that I can say about that is it's not a >> surprise when you want to open something from history. There's no mystery.
>> That I I agree. But do we want to do some kind of version of that ver and like with like we have the old the post canon like is this is this going to be displayed in the library? >> No. I I I would prefer to see such a box because just a container that's locked
and has the things in it. So and it holds the idea of a time capsule >> because a time capsule is the items are in there. You don't look at them for 50 years you open it. that. So >> that's that's the >> Miss Somerset Library actually has
in their reference room has a time capsule that then they're tall. They're probably like this made out of wood. >> Library or the Somerset Historical Society. >> The library. >> The picture I have was from historical society. >> Yeah. And that >> I haven't seen that one.
>> Um they just have a lid that lifts up. you know, but no one really looks inside of it, you know, that it's in a reference room and it's, you know, um, climate controlled and all that. So, but I would rather see something and we're
really talking about something smaller. I would think, you know, I'm maybe like >> I mean that depends on what items we get for it though >> by this. Well, we have to kind of control that a little bit. >> Um, >> right. So that it fits on a shelf at the
library and a space at the library, you know, cuz >> And it will be locked. >> And it will be locked. >> You know, >> so it'll go in the It'll go in like the the reading room with the other historic >> reading room. Yeah. >> Has to be indestructible. Insured. >> Well, no. Well, not insure, but
fireproof. I mean, well, I mean, what? >> But what? >> No, no, but I mean, sure, but fire. I mean, do we There must be some classy looking fireproof safes. Not like, you know, like not one that you have if you find a hotel room that you lock your
things in, but like we do want it to be like since we're not burying it, like obviously the whole point of burying is like it won't let you put the flood plane bearing is that nothing's going to happen in that thing. God forbid something happened to the library and it goes up in flames or or
some god forbid but like do you know what what like we wouldn't want now it's gone because something happened that wasn't our like you know how what do we want you know I mean what do we how well do like why why should we not
just put in our vaults like well someone putting it like that's a controlled safe vault >> cuz there's no room in the vault there's no room in the end >> well we'll get in but I I mean like for something that big. I mean >> there's no money to expand. >> Okay. But I'm thinking 50 years from
now. Okay. If it's in a vault like here, it's almost like >> I I just meant for the for safety purposes. Not so much. I'm not saying it should be here. I'm just saying like, you know, >> because we have, you know, so much of the historical like stuff like I just
would hate to have like some I don't know. I think I think It's easier. It's easier to It's Oh, no. It's It's easier to get lost in the shuffle in there. >> Yes. >> But is there I think that then we should then I think we should do a more due dilig
They would be >> Did they have some that looked historic or did they all look >> They all look the same. >> All the same. Stainless steel cylindrical cylinder. >> Let's do some research. >> Yeah. Like maybe we can all >> the box.
>> Yeah, me too. Yeah. >> Like really hard metal stainless steel. >> But it almost looks like a box. >> That looks like a box. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And we can carve our initials and stuff. >> We should.
>> Well, we should definitely put a picture of us and >> I think so. Yes, absolutely. >> Picture of us like every like I know like like the newspapers have done pictures of like them burying it. Not saying we call the newspapers, but we
should do put in a picture like the last thing that that should go in there should be a picture of us locking it up. You know what I mean? Like that should be the last thing that goes in there. >> Okay. >> Unless you unless you want the Totten Gazette to come and >> All right. So
>> Ron O'Connor could take a picture. >> Yes, Ron could. Yes. >> Yeah. >> Or Chief's wife could take a picture. >> Yeah. >> But I got to be in the picture. >> So we have So Rafa, will you take some
more look? And >> so you find some links, just send them to us and we can kind of review it before we get here. >> Yeah. >> I just found one now. It's like I mean this thing is $400 but and it's at Home Depot but it's a fire and waterproof
safe. >> I don't like that. >> No, I know. But but no, but I'm saying like things like that do exist. You know what I mean? Like we can find something that looks nice that also >> it's a like a lock. It's like a safe. >> And where would they put it in the library?
>> It's going to be like in the library and it has to be able to fit on a shelf. >> Yeah. >> On a shelf. Okay. So maybe I can measure. >> Yeah. Yeah, I have to go to the library on Thursday. >> Maybe these are like buried like like
bricks and stuff like >> and of course someone someone eventually would move it cuz no, you know, and then it would end up in a closet. But >> yeah, >> but it'll be Yes. Do not remove do not touch >> or even you put, you know, a little
plaque on it that says time capsule. >> Yeah. to be opened in the >> opened in you know >> okay to be continued I guess >> I thought we were close rather >> well we are on board
>> we finally decided what I mean can we now can we now officially put out another call for items now that we know we're going to >> wait till we have a container >> yeah Okay. So, as I said, our budget, we have $56,956
um for this year's budget. So, we have some expenditures from tonight that'll go against that FY27 budget planning. I met with Ralph
and Serena regarding our um FY27 budget of $625 explaining that the increase because we went up 25. Um I told him I said you know our conference is the conference that we go
to is in June. I said last year we ended up no one ended up going. I told this to the finance committee too was because it was in sturbage and no one wants to drive back and forth. I says, "But we will look to see for this year." Um, and I also explained in the travel because
the travel was only like $72. Said that was figured on I think it was figured on going to Fort Deans I did or Worcester. I can't remember which. >> Fort De was one I was going to go to, but you and I went >> and um
that that was based on car pooling too, you know. So they understood that. Um so you know they they listened nicely and I also mentioned to the um to the meeting with both the finance committee
and the board of selectmen. I said you know one of our jobs one of our functions is to always be doing surveys and documenting you our historical properties and stuff. And I said um there's nothing in our budget. It has
never really been anything in our budget to do that. and that would be, you know, around $3,000 if we were going to do a few properties every year. And um like looked at me and said, "No, it's not not going to happen this year or whatever obviously."
>> And then you're like, "I 20 years." And I like, "Yeah, she said, >> you know." So I think they >> I felt um they understood us, you know. So I also explained that our budget is not a monthly budget that it's more
projectoriented. >> Yes. >> So you you can't look and say here we are you know already almost through the fiscal year and you haven't spent it. It's project based so it's kind of continuing. >> I think after mine they were going to
agree on anything. Uh the good thing is that we seem to have we our our has not had a problem getting CPC money when we wanted it. >> Oh >> no. >> Because as of right now that's that's been paying for like our our but but but
how long is that until that well runs dry? >> Right. Right. >> Or or it's not dry. We just and or we just don't get approved for things. >> Right. >> And then then we're really well because then it's like well we have no budget. our other source of income, our other source of funds was either not approved or they lost their budget. Now it's like
now what? >> Right. >> I said to I said to Pat one time and I want to sound was going to sound at that point we're a glorified historical society. >> Yeah. >> If we can't do anything if if all we're doing is talking about fun projects or we're doing fun projects. It's like yes the preserving memories is a way of doing it. Yes. Like walking tours are
our way of doing it, but >> we're not making money off it to help with expenditures. Like the walking tour, we ended up getting a grant to get them >> right. And I I guess what I mean is like there's things like that, but like if
that's that's a way of us sharing history, but it's not a way of us preserve I mean well I guess preserving memories, but it's not a way of literally preserving history. So it's like if we're if we can't do that then why what are we? >> I think it's um the next couple of years
are going to be very difficult. >> Oh yeah yeah. >> Yes. Well >> we'll try our best >> if that if that override is >> Yeah. >> So next is our national register application for the Mount Hope Finishing
Company. >> So I definitely have thoughts on it. >> You do? >> Okay. >> Um well, one thing that I mentioned to you the other day was in
um Stacy's email to she said, "I was very generous on the boundaries." Does that help us? Are they too generous? Is crossing over into Taton going to hurt us or help us? >> All right. So, the the reason it crossed
over to Taton is because the request came from the Mass Historical Commission as they were looking at this is to search out the other properties that um were a part of Mount Hope and some of those right over the line were. >> Right. So when she says she's generous,
now this is not finished yet because the Mass Historical Commission will look at it and they may say those boundaries you need to include more or you need to tighten them up. >> Okay. >> Cuz they're they have to do their review too.
>> Can I make a comment on that? >> Yeah. Um, I really don't love how it's like a parcel here, then it's like I I hate that like like there's a strip here. >> What do you want?
>> Like I'm sorry. um 5253 the site plan only because the macros form doesn't show the new boundaries quite like that one little lot there is not
included that little chunk there is not to me it just looks >> chunky >> yes and >> so >> and I just I don't know like I I get I get it doesn't have to contiguous. I get that.
But when I've been looking at like the um area sorry for for districts, it talks about how uh a district deres its importance from being a unified entity even though it is often composed of a wide variety of
resources. The identity of a district district results from the interrelation of its resources which can convey a visual sense of the overall historic environment or be an arrangement of historical. And then it talks about how it's okay if it can it can comprise of
both features that lack individual distinction and individually distinctive features that sort of a focal point. And it talks about how like it's okay if it like I didn't love how like on the like Autumn Street and Winter Street the original one
submission didn't include anything there and I was like Mount Hole laid out those streets but >> those houses >> but only one's there but like isn't it okay to include the whole part of it even though it's like or do we really
have to pick like scatter what partial Is it >> your question is the reasoning on page 52 and 53 seeing these chunks >> right like I get that yes well sorry the you know let's just say the house is 41
school street well that was built in 2000 why would you want to include that but it's also like it the guidelines say you can include things like that it because it shows the development over time the majority of the parcels do
contribute you. I could I would get if most of them didn't, but >> I see. Yeah, right. It's that just that weird thing like, okay, that's included, but those two little things right there aren't included. >> I don't know. I don't know if if that's
going to help us get approved, then heck yeah, let's do it. But it's also like, are they going to say, "I don't know, guys. You're really like, you know, like I I I don't I don't know. I don't >> I'm curious. That's what I'm when I say like with the boundaries too generous.
>> So you're looking for an like an an explanation of >> No, not an explanation. I I did the research. I know why they weren't included, but like is it it doesn't look clean so so to speak. And I know that's not the point. Do you
know does anyone kind of know what I mean? >> Yeah. Yeah. Like >> so because just say you're looking at um these properties here on I guess that's summer street.
>> Here's >> why would why would >> Right. So >> So there's two properties on Summer Street that aren't ones are not included. Um, I got to put my
>> like over here on page 11. They include >> my stepson's house is saying that they do not appear to have been repeated in North Don, but they're not listed on here. >> So, like look here. So, this is how it was on the map form. See how like the
boundary includes Warner Boulevard and solder a but only that one house. Look at it here. the the boundary does not include the street but includes one lot on the street. So before it included the street
>> even though not all the parcels were involved. >> Wait a minute. Wait a minute. That's on macaris, right? >> Correct. >> So the this is not the this is not the new one. That's the original one. >> That's showing the boundaries of the form.
That's the Okay. So that's the boundaries on the original form that we did the form B, right? to form a >> Yep. >> some of those. So, you are running into the same problem at some of them like up here, >> you know, kind of like goes
>> Yeah. there. >> So, I feel like now it's even more disjointed like you have like before it's like okay, you didn't include autumn and winter. >> All right. So, we'll we'll ask for an explanation of why it's why it looks so disjointed.
>> Yeah. compared to the other one. Now, she said, "Well, I've done more research and found out like it should never have been like that in the first place." Okay, I get it. >> Okay. So, the question is, why does it look more disjointed than >> right and more like >> form form a
>> more right? Um, also, >> okay, >> I know that Mount Hope Farm is a big one cuz like that, but like the mas form on Mount Hope Farm does not mention anything about it being Mount Hope Farm. It's called like the divine no that's
taunt side >> divine. >> So, I feel like if we're included like you always hear about Mount Hope Farm and Helen Lane mentions it in her book. It's you know it's a talk about thing but like I've always wondered where it was. I didn't know now until I saw this. >> Because you're too young.
>> Oh boy. >> Exist or is it because you're too old? >> Um, so I was like, "Oh, great. That's where it was." So then I went on to the form for that. It doesn't even mention it being Mount Hole Farm. So, I'm not
saying it's incorrect, but I was like it will that parcel then have more research done >> because I noticed that Michael's house is not listed in here, but she does make a reference to it over on page 11. >> All right. So, there was a reference to the farm that I read. I thought was kind
of cuz I thought there was the name of but it's here and then here. >> So, the question about The farm is
>> it's a Tata property, but so it's for Pat if you just wanted for your record, it's um T A559. It's called Divines Deans. >> Yep. Divine >> Dairy Farm.
>> Yeah. on whatever base map uses it calls it Mount Hope Farm like in like italics like to say it was that the macros form for the taunt makes zero mention of it ever being mount farm. >> It was though. >> Oh no I Oh yeah. So it's kind of one of those things where like
>> that needs to be updated thing because like >> the macros form >> for that which would be a taunt one. Tons macros forum leaves >> like I I believe when I was like >> so what happens with these forms and this is what um they're
not a complete finished history of the place. They are a snapshot of the history. So there is you can add to the forms. You can always send and add more information in >> even even once this is done. People
don't tend to do that because it's just really a snapshot. So if I have a continuation of something, you can send that to the Mass Historical Commission and then they determine if it's appropriate after >> the fact >> after the fact. Okay? >> Because those
um surveys are just a quick not a quick but like a snapshot of it. and lots of times on it um no matter which ones you're reading it'll say more research is needed. >> So if you do the research and then you
put it like oh I need to submit it. So I don't as far as I can see on some of the forms you don't see a lot of people adding you do see changes when there's like when we updated the survey you see the changes in the the two forms you
know like the forms that were done in the 70s >> were fairly basic and now they're a little bit more complete. Mhm. Um my other question was so I know we had a relatively incomplete
and actually a great example of it went for Dyon village >> right >> and it it does say and this is gone 1991 and it says we do not have enough information on this area resources to determine whether it's potentially eligible talks about site that is needed
blah blah blah so I think of village I think of that whole area so we forms on School Street and Lincoln A. I was so shocked to figure out how much of Lincoln A is now included in the Mount Hope thing and in my head I was like
Lincoln A is like you like it's because a lot of the parcels were like Mount Hope finishing houses >> but I was like but half of the house were like Lincoln family houses and like that's a whole separate history. So yeah. So what happened with those is
when Milicanin is leaving those properties. No, it was before that. >> Way before way before that >> because he actually buys them to provide housing because he gives them to Dyon Realy realy company to sell them. So you
see a lot of those properties that are being sold by Dyon Realy. So then I was then I was then wondering do we include that and then call the whole thing like North Don Village instead of Mount Holt finishing company. >> Yes.
Like I mean because when you look at >> No, I would I would disagree because the historical context that you're going for the National Register nomination is based on the Mount Hope. Okay. >> And the history of their >> paternal philanthropy what you know um and how
they developed their >> if you call it just the North Village village you lose. >> Okay. Well okay that's good. Well, that's good to know. Then I that's why I had the question historical part of why Milican started all of that because I think didn't even they say he was one of
the first ones in the United States to have like like a whole complex of like a subdivision that was somewhere I had read that was something that was considered the first >> yeah subdivision
>> I have a question did >> did North Don exist before Mount Hope or Yes. Way before >> and and there were other factories on that site. >> Mount Hope was not mounting was named
after like the Mount Mill that was there 100 years ago. Well, not the same building, but like >> Yeah. >> Um Okay. Um, another thing too, are we able to I noticed that you know how she included the different forms that we found?
>> Um, there's a third one that she did not include. I don't know if it's if it's if it's not a big deal or not, but it's um so we she included this one right here. She included that one. It's actually not far. It's
right here. Uh 56 and 57. She included this one, but then there's this one that was not included. I don't know if it's relevant, if it even matters, but there's a third there. There is a third one that's not
there. If it's not worth bringing up, I just know that that was worth. >> Where is it? >> Oh, boy. Um, it's it's a serial number 15725, index number 14518.
It's going to have the same index number as this one, but the serial number is different. >> And that's it on there. Is that a different view? >> Yeah, because it almost looks like it is. >> There are streets on it that are different. So, if you were to turn it
So, I'm going to or I'm going to turn it the way it's published. So, like now this is how it's oriented. Like here's Spring Street, Mount Hope Street, Bedford Street, 3M River. That's the form that she included. This is the one that she did
not include. Is almost the top half of it cuz here's summer. Here's the rest of spring. Here's the here's so like it's almost like this. See? Okay. So number 70. So see see
where Bedford Street is here on this plan. >> Yeah. >> And then you have number >> it's almost the same >> but then but it's it's the it's not ver because look at Spring Street here. Mount Hope Street. Bedford Street. This
one shows way more of Bedford Street. It's almost the next half of it. >> All right. Yeah. >> So, it's it's a it's a it's a >> All right. So, why it wasn't included? >> Yeah. And then the next thing is in the vault,
I found these, which are blueprints. Now, granted, it's it's not it's it's the the town's plans for accepting the roads, which give us not circuit not circuit dates. It gives us the actual date.
like and so in the 1919 it talks about Autumn Street. Um it even shows Warner Boulevard being put in and which is later on but um I don't know if those would be and I only found those are not online. I found them when I was looking through like oh my god these are like
>> I don't know if they're relevant. They might not be relevant. I don't know but I if it's anything that she would want to include that would help it. We should find a way. >> So we found blue you found blueprints. Yeah, they're literal blueprints, but they're more um they're town documents
if anything. >> So, she wouldn't have had access to that, >> right? So, I don't know if this if she's looking at this it's not going to be relevant at all, then that's fine. >> So, the blueprints of the street layout, >> but if you look, it even talks about So, this date is
59. You can see here a quote unquote state highway, not Spring Street. So, this is Warner Boulevard coming through. which I don't know if that's relevant, but that's again stuff that >> All right.
>> So, I don't know if I don't know if she if she would want that at all, but that's not digital at all. That's But I took a decent picture. You can send her more pictures of them, too. >> Okay. Um, and then my last question was, does
Steven's Island that has no Mount Hope ties, right? I know like there's a it has connections to the Walker Furnace Lincoln Company bought some of it. I don't think Stephen like it's it's not included. I said no. Should it be? >> No, I think it's at the border of it.
Don't you? >> I I thought so. I just wanted to verify that with you. As you thought, too. >> Like a block of cement surrounded by water. island. >> I also think that as of right now, this plan does not include
a chunk of school street. And I think it should, not the property, but like if you look here, all that right there, >> I know those are not >> not the properties, but the road itself. Milicanin played a huge role in laying
out that street because he was part of a a commission that extended the street to like he not only did he lay out streets for the finishing company to put workers houses on, he that he's why or played a
role in that. I feel like that should be included because that's very significant. That road didn't that road didn't connect until the >> So when you're looking up here, School Street, this existed these a lot of these properties here are a lot older.
These here, the ones that aren't in black. So these are pre Milikin that he never took over. >> So the So that road connected before he came in? >> Yeah, it did. High street. That was high street.
>> If anything, it was more here and here. Prospect Street isn't that old of a street because well, Swany Drive comes off of that, but Prospect it was more up in here where the his housing was because
Chase Street crosses and goes over to where Milton live. >> So, this is 1895. Oh, yeah. We wouldn't have to wait that out, I guess. >> Yeah. It's pre-mount holes. Pool Street.
It's Prospect Street. That's not on this here. >> I think he laid out Prosp P prospect street, didn't he? I think he did. >> I don't know if he did or not. But again, the houses that would be there weren't part of the worker houses. But I
guess that's my thing that does it is it is the history of the land and the roads worth talking about too even though the parcels were not like is it just strictly I like when I think of of a district or an area I'm not thinking
about just the houses and the structures that's in I'm also thinking of the entire makeup of it. Mhm. >> If he if part if he contributed to the development of that area, the district, so to speak, I think that's relevant even if the properties on it aren't
relevant. >> I don't know. I guess I if >> I think if you start thinking like that then you're going to that's where you get into like it's all of North Don >> you know the focus the focus I for the
district is really like the plant >> the houses okay >> and the houses the work >> I got you okay >> um it's more it's more focused more detail >> specifically on okay >> because I mean if you did that with districts even with, you know, um, say
our warf stick district. You could do that on either side of the district, >> right? >> You know, because they have history and they were developed, but they're not part of that district. >> Right. That's true. Yeah.
>> Right. Right. That's a good point. Yeah. I think that way than that that definitely makes sense. >> Okay. >> Yeah, definitely. >> All right. So your questions are one why does it look more disjointed >> about um
>> and if there are reasons for it like that like maybe it should never have been as contiguous than >> then >> then sure absolutely that's what it should be >> the divine dairy farm and the mount hope dairy farm >> yeah I guess >> an update or because there's also
referenced in here by another name >> the I can even pull um where are we? So there actually two there two divine parcels. One is like a divine dairy divine dairy farm. There's the barn.
>> Mhm. >> And then the actual dairy farm, which is not an area. It's literally just the building. It's not even like if you look here, it's not even this whole thing. It's legit just one structure. Um but
>> but that's considered South Walker Street. >> Yeah. So she's calling it the Horton House, the M Hope Farm. >> And then but Taton's farm is you know how we how we were talking about >> talking about some of um the ones we looked at for like the play and how it's very very minimal. >> Yeah.
>> Whoever come and and you said that was before that these forms were in place. So there was no that's what reminds me the taunt form. This T form reminds me of that because if it's very it's like two pages long if that
>> Oh, it Oh, I Yeah, >> it's like >> Okay. >> Um Yeah. Yeah. Right here. So, it's it's Okay. It's it um so it shows it talks about being the dairy farm
divine fairy karm complex um and then it has jorton question mark obviously but like divine fair uh divine farm complex jorton like that's it's that's all that is
very basic which is not default then but like we should probably have it that done a bit more if that considering Mount Hope Farm was so significant to it. >> Yeah. >> Right. Or no. >> Well, yeah. So now it's kind of like that's on Taton's property, >> right? I don't know. How how did that
work? If that's the case, then maybe we shouldn't be including anything from Totten then. >> Well, no. Yeah, but the farm actually contributed to the village. So then I feel like we definitely But how does that that that's why one of my question was the boundaries thing and how does crossing over into Taton is that a >> with the crossing over into Taton came
out because that was the request from the Mass Historical Commission from Ben >> to look at other properties even beyond the town boundaries that could possibly have been >> part of it. So this property I mean they could look at this and reject that as a piece of it. Who knows?
>> You know because they haven't finished their review either, >> right? So, um, okay. So, the thing about the blueprints, >> the ones we have in the vault. Yep. >> The one about the vault. Okay. >> So, yeah.
>> And then the other blue the other >> textile museum textile museum thing. >> Yeah. >> Which I have. I if Stacey needs I can email it to her or email it to you to email it to her. >> I think I have that. >> Okay. >> Okay. Does anybody have anything else?
I thought it was incorrect. >> And for the record, I definitely don't want to sound like I'm against it or I thought it was poor. I just had I had more questions than I did before because it looks so different than what I was like, oh I'm like, wow, it's includ It's including Lincoln Street now. Like, oh
my god. So that's just why. But um but other than I love how it now includes a lot of the Mstead plans. >> Yeah, >> the other one the other one mentioned it but didn't but didn't include them. I love that they're included now. >> I was amazed that they include, you know, that they even did anything in
this area because you figure the Mstead brothers were >> Central Park. >> They were in Boston, right? And it's cool seeing like how the hotel that was almost there and like I love seeing all like the like what could have been kind of thing. I thought that was really cool.
>> There were like two or three houses that used to be in front of the mill, >> right? >> Where where were they moved? >> One was moved to Autumn Street. One is one of the little ones on Autumn Street. She does mention that here. Um
and for speech there's because on page six, section 7, page six, she's talking about housing. So um you had 13 small houses located along Mount Hope Street that Milicanin had
demolished or moved elsewhere in North Don. Two of them remain. 867 Autumn Street and 105 Forest Street >> Forest >> Forest Mill
not there. Okay. >> Yeah, he rearranged the area to look the way he wanted it to look. >> Yeah. Well, I mean I I mean I'm not going to say that if I was there back then it would have been for it would have been on his side. But hey, he's the one paying for it. He's going to be bringing a lot of money to this town. Go
for it, dude. >> I mean, to some extent, you don't have to look at it that way. like >> he actually moved quite a few houses >> because on section 7, page 14, there's 1 2 3 4 five six seven houses that
were moved. >> Mhm. >> That's a lot of >> Yeah. Okay. So, the husband didn't have any say or any power? >> No, he owned the property. He owned the property. I mean whether they whether you agree with it or not he owned them. I mean whether it ethical or not is a
different question. >> Well that's like even with the fire station. He owned that fire station >> and there was a big stink that one time South Dyon had a big fire and he refused to allow that fire department in North End to come down and help them.
There was always that >> really >> to some extent I get it. It's like okay so if I send my trucks down and they get damaged who's paying for that? Like you you almost have to consider that like I I can see why he would have been like >> but also it's like you're not but you're
dying fire not mount hopefire you know I mean in that case in that case establish your own mount fire company >> was it that was mount hope >> right right >> you know >> that's why when my husband changed the sign yeah
>> it was always north Don fire station my husband says no it's not Don fire It's our north branch apartment station two is what he had and this wasn't station one >> and he got flat for that. >> Um I know you said
>> can you reach out to Stacy and see if she wants any information regarding the names of the streets. I know you said that she might not care but um like she mentions like how they were like some the streets names were. I've done a quite a bit of street genealogy.
If she just doesn't want it that's fine. I just if she feels like it would be a nice touch or >> I just had this thought part of our contract does include a meeting with her. Do we want to invite her to a meeting? >> Yes, >> sure. We we did a long time ago and that was I think now would be even a great
time because we have I think >> now would it be by Zoom or in person? >> She could come by Zoom or in person. >> If it's in person, we pay her for the gas mileage, right? >> I don't um before look at our contract. >> That's why we did Zoom before I think. Was that right? >> We'll look at the We'll look at the contract. Um, so April, our April
meeting, >> that would be really cool. Yeah. >> And I want to check the status if she's heard from MHC. >> What is that? What date is our April meeting? >> The 14th. >> 14th. Okay. >> Um, >> if we don't pay if she's not
if we don't charge her by hour to talk to us. >> I think it's we have a meeting that's included in the contract. I just have to >> for Mount Hope specifically. >> Yep. >> Okay. Okay. So, I can't ask any questions about about like like for on like the broad coat stuff. That'd be a different
>> Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. That's fine. I suggest, you know, >> I mean, you could email her and ask her those questions. We could email and find out. >> I I don't have any specifically. It's more just like if something were to come up. >> Right. Right. So, all right. Um,
one of the things that we have to do is coordinate with Ben Haley at the Mass Historical Commission to have a public meeting. We did have one a long time. >> Oh my god. Yeah. >> Um, 2024 was it or 20?
>> Um, I think when you >> I was on I was on >> Ben Haley from the He wasn't there. >> Oh, no. >> No. We had a meeting >> with him. >> No. Oh, >> with the the residents and just to get a feel
>> just to say, >> are we going to get any flack from this? You know, are you in favor? You know, before we had, you know, to spend the money on it. >> So, now we have to have a meeting where he'll come down and and he'll talk to residents, but we also would need to do
it because some of the properties have changed in this listing, >> okay? you know, or you know, if he's going to exclude some of those properties, do we want to wait till those are excluded? So, >> nothing.
>> Um, so we have to do that. Um, get that information for April. I >> do. We pay for him to come down. >> I don't No, >> I wouldn't think so. as part of their requirement.
>> So given all of that, do we want to wait on making a motion to approve this nomination? >> I mean, I have no problem. I guess so. I guess so. >> You mean meet with Stacy first before we
accept this? Yeah, I would. >> Yeah. only because like I'm not against it the way it is now. Unless you want to a little bit more detail why >> if if not well I mean the details yeah like like if if Pat was like no this was the final copy I'm just see what your
thoughts were I'd be fine to go yeah >> on it but knowing that like the disjointness and this you know kind of >> I'll email >> if that's going to help or hurt us I wouldn't want to talk about it >> and you know say we had some questions and some of these questions may be easier for her to answer in person
rather than through email >> um I'll also check in on her about the process. If we need to for time sakes, we can call a special meeting just for Mount Hope to, you know, for us to discuss Mount Hope. >> I think that might be a good idea only
cuz like I was like looking at on the agenda like oh boy, like someone has a lot to talk about still like I I think we should probably call a separate one. >> Yeah. So um All right. And it's separate. Um, if we do it during school vacation, I'll be
around. Um, well, I guess No, there's never a time. I I'm only not good on the fourth Tuesday cuz I have zoning >> other and then the Monday is when we have um rehearsal, but I could do it after rehearsal.
>> Yeah, >> other than that, >> okay, >> I'm fine. >> We'll see what we can do. All right. Um, I want to skip over the historical survey stuff and I know that includes your broadcast. >> That's more than that's more than time.
>> Do you want me just to give this out at least? >> Yeah, I think look at it because it's already 7:30 and >> I was thinking the same exact thing. Like I could we could spend another hour talking about this. So like So yeah, totally. I can put this on to the next um agenda because I also
>> besides I also want to start a list of the properties that we would consider a survey on because we had talked about different areas >> to take a look at. I've already found more resources. Like I didn't know like
there's a you know how there's like um just like historical landscape like the lower Ton River would have been considered that one. There's one that's more geared towards rural historic landscape and I found that after I did all this and I was like oh that might
apply here that was farmland. >> Yeah. It's called um >> oh >> uh guidelines for evaluating documenting rural historical lands and a lot of it has to talk we talked about old farmland
with stone and walls and a lot of that has to do with broad cove >> send the link for that. >> Okay look at it. >> Yeah. Um, so like because of that like that already would change some of the stuff not change but I'm more to the broad. So like that's totally fine. >> And I I also want to you know start like
an ongoing list of the properties that we need to survey because every day another house turns 100. >> Oh yeah. I know. It's funny. I was thinking that too like that's part of the stuff I include. I was like I'm doing all these houses for the late 1800s. I'm like how about 1920? >> That's over 100 years old now. Like
>> it's like >> right milk houses. about that. >> Yeah. >> So, what's list of other properties just in general? >> Um, we had at our last meeting made assignments for it because I was doing
like Walker Wheeler area >> that was going to work on cross 44 like uh Chestnut Street and all of that. Um, >> I know I was doing Broad Cove. >> We were doing Broad Cove. Irene, were you gonna look at Oh, you were doing
like Wellington Street. >> What? >> I think Yeah. Oh, let me look at the minute. >> I say I got kind of shot changed there in February. >> Yeah. Well, February we >> Well, yeah.
>> So, me, too. I was like, "Is that you, me?" I keep doing the same thing. >> Oh, yes. Irene will investigate the Wellington area. Rafa will research houses built in the 30s and 40s.
>> I saw some >> not much though. >> Okay. So, um >> even structures like bridges. What? >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, high school. I'm pursuing anything like that.
>> Okay. So, Zach was Okay. Broad Cove and Don Rock Park which you were working on. >> Yeah. Because that's included. That would be included in Yeah. So, yeah, that's already been done. Not done, but that's already been >> Okay. >> So, we'll just add those.
All right. So, that'll go on um next month's agenda. Real quick, America's 250th anniversary. Rachel River was a huge success. >> So, so good. >> Um, we're the committee is still working
on the details for the reenactment in September. As we know, the coins are on uh for sale. Zach's doing a play with some middle school kids. It's coming along fabulously about the May 20th, 1776 meeting. And the kids are awesome.
>> They're good. >> How many kids have you got involved? >> There's 10. Wow. >> So, we wanted not wanted the the script as written from 1976 was 20. My plan or our plan was to just take that script and do it with middle-aged kids. Middle
sorry, middle school age kids. We got 10. So, I was like, we either are cannot do this or I got to spend time really really tailoring the script. So, we really have been working the script to the point that I am now glad we have the
10 kids. But, it's been so much fun. I mean, >> I don't want to say the script is unrecognizable, but but in a way it kind of is. Like we kept like the content, but like we added a lot to it. Like >> we like I don't want to spoil it too much, but like we use one of the characters as a narrator who like talks
to the audience and we're going to show slides like this is what the house looks like now kind of thing because the way it's written is dry. It takes the meeting minutes and just like I want to get fun for the kids too and and the audience it's working >> having fun with it because some when the
parents have stayed some and I they they're laughing at the lines that we put that we added. They're like, "Oh, I didn't know that." So, okay. If this small group of is already looking like we're doing something right, you know what I mean? So, >> when are you planning on this? >> May 16th. >> May 16th, >> we're probably going to have a
>> we'll have a flyer. >> Huh? Oh, I think >> so. Um, I met with, like I said, I met with the library trustees. We talked about the time capsule. They approved putting our walking brochures,
um, you know, in the library for people to take. Mhm. >> Um I asked about the commission members touring the Carnegie building, but right now it's full of some of the surplus items that they use for moving. So there's limited space for movement in there.
>> Um because that surplus stuff we're waiting for it to be sold, I guess. Um so we'll keep working on that. Historical sharing. I don't think I don't have anything for tonight. Okay. >> Um annual report. I sent you the annual
report um >> the draft of it. >> I have a couple just minor things. >> Okay. >> Um in October 2025 uh the commission hosted its first walking tour of Ditton Dyon's national register districts.
>> Yeah. >> Shouldn't it be historic districts? >> Okay. And the warves district, isn't it? Is it called D? I think I think if you want to be specific, I think is called Dyon Warf. Dyon Warf district. I don't know if you care. >> I'm gonna check that. I'll check that on
the form. >> Okay. I'm fairly certain, but then um the oral history program quote unquote preserving memories. Do you want to call of Dyon? >> And if you care, I think we can put that in italics fontwise. Okay.
>> Cuz it's our it's our title of it. >> Y >> So I think we can I think it could be capitalized and then and well I mean yeah and then put on top. >> That's it though. >> That's it. >> I did like the attendance was small in
the walking tours. Yeah. >> Nice. I know. I know. >> I enjoy >> it might spark interest when people say Yep. Yep. Um, >> we're already getting into the time of year we could have another one. I can't believe I was saying that, but like that
felt so long ago. Not but talk about having another one, but like that long. >> It felt so long ago, but now it's like >> up with that April agenda. >> And then I I first like, oh, we forgot a bunch of stuff, but I was like, wait, no, this is for 2025, so we can't
include anything that we've been talking about so far. So, unfortunately, Sher received the resignation of Pat Olsen from the historical commission. Um, Pat did let me know. I um thanked her for her years of services. So, I would like
to entertain a motion to accept Patricia Olsen's resignation with thanks for her years of services and service and contributions to the historical commission. >> So, motion. >> Is there a second? >> Second. All in favor.
>> Um, >> how many years did she have on the commission? >> Thought she said like 15. >> She's 16. >> Wow. Really? >> Yeah, she was a long time. She >> 15 years. Was she on before you, Pat? >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, she was on a good number of years before me.
>> 15. >> And her wealth of knowledge. It was been on at four. Not to change the topic, but I'm just curious like how like I >> probably three. >> Oh, so you weren't that far after me then? Really? >> No. Okay.
>> Irene was appointed in 2022. >> Oh, going into my fourth year. >> Yep. >> I think I'm up this year, right? >> Yeah. Zachary, Sher, Shara, and myself are up >> this year. >> Oh, we doing the same calendar year?
>> Yeah. Yep. So, okay. So, now we have two positions opened on the commission because we can have seven. So, we had an inquiry from a non-resident about the o the open
position. I reached out to the mass historical commission if non-residents can serve on the commission. I got no response. Shara checked on this for us, too. There's nothing in the bylaws, but I found my committee handbook. Oh, okay.
>> And >> um I mean did you ever get board and committee handbook? >> I didn't. So it might be somewhere in my >> I think I think I think Ralph did say that we're going to be working on an updated one too soon. But anyway,
>> under on page five under committee appointment. >> Yep. >> It says the goal of the appointing authorities is to appoint qualified and interested Dyon residents. So >> it does say Diane. Yeah. >> Yeah. So um a non-resident cannot be
part of >> our committee. Um and I knew this existed. We just couldn't I knew this was a I look at all the time for stuff. I can't believe it. >> It was there. >> I really skipped over it because I knew I look focus on this handbook more for
zoning stuff and I know for you have you can't have a non-resident for Don zoning board. It never even occurred to me that you know even our own rules and regulations for the historical commission do not address that. So perhaps that's something we should update. We may want to look at that.
>> It's one of those things where like I was like you know if he has like a lot this last thing we did allow non-residents if he had like oh I like I like that because this reason this reason this reason I have family there I grew up there. Or if he's just like, "Oh no, I want to join Seox too and I'll be
like, okay then." Like, but >> I'm gonna reach out to him anyway. I'll let him know. He has a lot of skills that maybe he would like to volunteer to help out on >> a lesson kind of thing or like a >> just to help out. Yeah.
>> Um so I will reach out to him. I was so um >> I'd looked at uh I wanted to talk to him the other day, but um one of the fathers, no one thought the father of one of the students in the play, girls in the play, um Sean Urban, he's a firefighter in town, which I didn't know
until I started talking, but he's got a like really likes the history. Like he was seemed more interested of in the history than his art did, but like that kind of like he like he said, "Oh, I'm kind of more excited about the reenactment kind of thing." and he knows a lot about his he's one of the the
Lincoln ad houses and um he's like he's like he like loves loves loves history like suit like a nice personal guy like I think it would be cool to reach out to him >> right >> um >> yeah we're kind of waiting to see him >> so >> I know like right now before we had one
chair open one position because he did not we didn't fail Dave's but now that we have two we might want to consider >> so in order to function And we need four people for a quorum. Right. >> So, we know that.
>> Um, our next meeting date is April 14th. >> Oh, has it it's been posted yet by the selectman that we're seeking members? >> I asked Leanne to put that on there. >> Yeah. >> So,
okay. I think that's it for tonight. Last sector. do. Uh >> I will entertain a motion to adjourn. >> So moved. Is >> there a second? >> Second. >> All in favor?
>> I h that's me. I did that. That's your first. >> No, no, no. It's it's mine and I >> I made a copy for all this. >> Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. He's trying to give away his Yes, I did make a copy