All right. Um, good evening. This is the Dyon Historical Commission meeting. It is December 9th, 2025. And, um, I'm calling the meeting to order at >> 608. >> 608. Um,
this meeting is being recorded, will be shown later on's YouTube channel. The um listing of matters are those reasonably anticipated by the chair which may be discussed at the meeting. Not all items listed may in fact be discussed and other items not listed may
also be brought up for discussion to the extent permitted by law. Um Pat Gails chairperson >> Robert Johnson present. Pat >> Olson Sharcasta Irene Alli is that Karen. Okay. And we'll stand for the
pledge. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you.
So, Zach took the minutes for you while you were gone in November. Does anyone have any changes, additions, corrections? I don't say the only thing I didn't have was who >> Oh. Oh, yes. >> Motion to close and who seconded. >> Yeah, but that's nothing.
>> But other than that, I >> Okay. >> I thought the minutes were excellent. I thought they were concise, but I was surprised not to see the fact that we had the discussion about not putting it >> cuz were we don't know if we were rolling yet. >> I don't think that was during
>> that was I don't think that was during the actual meeting. >> Yeah, >> that's the reason why I didn't include it. Yeah, because do we need to put that in these minute these minutes? >> I would say probably. That's something we probably do want on record, I would imagine.
>> I don't know if we need to vote for it, but >> I don't know. Do I >> Yeah, I don't know. >> I mean, you you can talk about it. I don't think it needs to be like you said. I don't think it needs to be a vote. It's just
>> Oh, I need a vote. I have to >> It's a discussion. I mean, you can. It doesn't have to be recorded. >> So, we could put it on the agenda for the next one as a discussion item. >> Yeah. No vote. Just to review and discuss. >> Some kind of record of us doing it. Right now, there has been no record of
us doing it discussing it. >> Okay. >> So, tabled. >> Yep. >> Well, no. Approval of the minutes can still be discussed. >> Yeah. Okay. Um motion to approve the minutes as submitted.
>> So moved. >> Second. Any further discussion? No. Okay. Um all in favor? >> And that motion passes. Pat, any remembrances?
I did not see any and I apologize again if there were some that I missed and and I looked and I I didn't Do you know of anybody who passed away in the month of December? >> There was one but it hasn't been um finalized so I don't really want to >> Okay, understand. I I didn't any but
when you talk about remembrances if I can have 10 minutes um coming up with Rafa's party and how we all much enjoy going to Rafa's party. So, in preparation of that, I am making a game of only Dyon people. That's what the tiein for remembrances, just so you
don't think. I'm not going off on a tangent. I'm really not. That's a good idea. >> Just All right. >> Oh, the who's who game. >> Yeah, >> that's an awesome idea. >> Only people awesome idea. This is just an example. All right. So, just put your answer. Don't yell your answer out loud. Oh, you can. I don't care. So, I'm going
to give you four four people. These are dy all dying people >> currently living or past. >> Alive or dead? >> Okay. >> Alive or dead? Oh, okay. >> All right. As soon as you know, as soon as you know, yell your answer because when we do it that night, we're not going to do it this this. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Born in 1923. I am the current current recipient of the Dyon Boston Post game. >> Oh, Dorothy Perry. Dorothy. Yeah, I knew her. Yeah. >> Born in 1754, enlisted in Massachusetts Revolutionary Forces, discharged in 1780, reinlisted
in 1781. M uh Wed Mary Atwood, I expect you to get this. Come on. >> Oh. Oh, Adam. >> I expect you to get this more than anybody. >> Andrews. No, no, no. >> Mary Andrews.
>> Oh, Joe Winslow for the Winslow Museum. >> See, these are all things that if you don't know them now, you want to know them. Okay, next. Next one's easy. You'll all get this. Born in 1776, the fifth of 10 children, peaceable and
hard George Briggs. Let me finish. >> Working credited with building many stone walls that I know George Briggs. The next one's for Zach. >> Born in 1907, passed in 2002, a respected educator, starting as a
teacher and becoming a grade school principal for several years. wasn't two. >> Born in 1907, passed in 2002, a respected educator. I could have added >> Rose Borgous.
>> Thank you. But that's your girlfriend, Rose Borges, that you want to interview and she's been dead for 20ome years. >> Oh, come on. That was just for you. I did that. >> All right. I was thinking of my school. I was like, >> you should all get the next one. Passed at 95 years old in 2014. And don't jump
the gun. a founding member of the Dyon Historical Society and served as town historian for several decades. >> Varley, >> last one. Just practice. This is the last one. >> Dyon's school physician.
>> Oh, >> from 1933. Hold your horse. >> 33 >> until 1984. So that's 50 something. Okay. >> He lived on the corner of Maine and Somerset A. >> Dr. Souza. >> Charles M. Soua. So, those are the type of questions and I have so many more
names. Alive or dead, but they're Dyon, you know, they're they're people you should know. It's Dyon who's who. That's the name of the game. >> I love that game. I love >> and I hope to do it in addition to yours, you know. But you gave me the inspiration. I enjoy that part of your
party. >> Me too, Marco. Me too. It's my It's my favorite part. I could do it all night ideas. >> Give them all the credit. favorite part of the game. It's my favorite part of the night. >> I want I want to tell you how much I enjoy >> my favorite part of the game. The night too. >> That was that was >> How many How many names do you have?
>> Like 25 30. >> Okay. If I have I can probably think of some more. >> Okay. >> Very good. >> Yeah, that's an awesome idea. >> You'll have to copyright it. Make a game and >> Yeah. Don, guess who? But uh >> so that's why I mentioned it during the remembrance because >> Oh, nice.
>> I do I I do a similar game with like the like Disney characters at school, but like I'll think of a Disney character and you can only guess the character by answering asking yes or no questions like were they this were they just like yeah >> well see I thought of doing that just
like his game. So you would put one to your head that you can't see but are are all of you going to know these? No, you're not. >> You're too young. You're too young. >> And you know it depend like a couple >> I know but you should know some things from history,
>> right? all know way historical. I'm not going to know more like you know post >> I have to reread the entire >> 1930 1930 I'm not going to know I'm going to know more like pre 1900 because that's more that wasn't alive for any of it or
>> are you sure? >> Well, we weren't alive in 177. >> No, but just SO YOU KNOW >> THAT WAS ACTUALLY really funny. >> But you weren't alive in 1930. Oh we were >> like to like I'm thinking like like a
school nurse. I think of Rosemary Bordon. Like that's my but like school nurses from your generation. I wouldn't know that one. >> Good. I could add her name. >> You could aim that at you next time. >> Softball >> because there will be people that will know her as the school nurse. >> Yeah.
>> So very good. Okay. >> Our budget. Um we don't have any expenditures. Did we order our brochure holder Sharah? So, um, no, the brochure holders were not ordered. However, um, I can order
them this week. Um, I just have to talk to Serena how to get that taken out of because what happens is if I order it under my Amazon, it automatically gets built to town clerk's office. So, I have to talk to Serena how to >> Oh, yeah. Because usually um because
I've done it through Leanne. >> Okay. How did we do it? >> How did you get the flash drives? Did you buy them yourself? >> Lean at Leanne and then it comes to my attention. >> So then maybe I'll do it through Leanne's office and then that way it can >> either that or Serena. Yeah. Whatever
easiest. >> Okay. >> Okay. Because that's 23.45 unless Amazon's with the pay the price lately. >> So when we have that expenditure, we will have a balance of $57655
once we spend that. Perfect. >> All right, Zach, anything under preserving memories? >> Um, aside from the miscommunication between Jeff, but we're doing ours on Monday, >> the 15th. >> Yeah, with Jeff. >> Um,
>> and after that, I'm gonna wait till the new year probably to schedule anything. But, um, >> obviously probably Christine Lynch will probably be next. Okay. >> So, where's the interview going to be held >> at the cable >> cable? >> Did you speak to Dave
>> the Monday? Okay. >> I mean, for I I think they probably could be done anywhere. >> But that seemed to be a nice place. We That was the first time I had been really first time my husband had actually >> It's less intimidating than what it seems like if one does not want to be on
camera. You don't even see You don't even know their cameras, honestly. You can't even tell unless you were like, "No, like they're kind of it's very easy to ignore them in a in a great way." >> I just had a grand old conversation with Dave that other Monday >> and I'm like, I'm just sitting there, you know,
>> like, why are you so hesitant? You know, so much. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, speaking of that, I not jokingly suggested that Irene be on the same episode as her husband because because of her not just because she's her husband. I mean, you know, she his wife because of her history with the fire
department, but she does not want to. >> Well, I don't No, she doesn't want to. You >> She was separate. >> She didn't want to steal the thunder from her husband. >> No, I don't want to take away from him. >> Right. Rather see him. >> But the reason why I suggest is because if you feel like there's going to be things that he's not going to think of that you can
remind him of. >> I could do God's sake, you guys. >> I think it would be better if it's just >> Yeah. No, I know. But um >> I do. He didn't realize I was also on the >> I never knew. I never knew that until I worked under him. Yeah. >> Which was very unusual.
>> Yeah. >> You know, but um No, I'd rather >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Better >> because sometimes when you have a husband and wife talk, >> there's like a difference of opinion how you interpret. >> Even better. Even better.
>> Yeah. And then sometimes someone else will say, "Well, that's not the way it happened." >> Right. Right. That's true. Right. It's like an argu argument about the memory. >> Yeah, I agree. Yeah. >> But he did look at that book, that binder from the historical society. He
didn't realize how much of his time as chief was actually in there. I guess he looked at it the other day when I was not home. >> Did he find it helpful? Like did he was think I forgot about that or like oh that's a good >> I think he found it helpful because it
was like oh wow I did all of that, you know? So it kind of >> who knows, right? So that's kind of that's kind of why that's kind of why I brought over there especially when you were saying that you know he wouldn't know what to talk about or like >> yeah I think he doesn't really know what needs to come up in conversation and I
said just >> whoever he wants to come up in conversation there's no need to this >> but you know he's not one to want to say I've done this I've done this he's very >> so Zach you have questions prepared to along in that
>> yeah I mean honestly I mean >> I got a got I got a lot more that night even >> that >> I like for example when when John when I did John's I barely talked in in in a good way because he had all these outlined and notes I would interject a
couple comments or a clarification question here and there but for the most part it was him doing it and ideally it shouldn't be me doing most of the talking it should be obviously if someone doesn't want to come with their own things they want to talk about and they I don't want someone to show up that night with nothing like all right wait what do you want to do like
hopefully by Then we would have had a couple conversations as to roughly what you want to go >> where you had talked to him that week. I think he's kind of got a feel, oh, this is what they're looking for. This is what they would like. And I think, you know, a lot of people don't know
what is involved with the fire department. I think you would have been >> involved in it. >> And you know, he's been on for 33 years. The last eight years was fire chief. You know, it's he's got a wealth of
knowledge there and he doesn't realize it. >> But lots of times once you when it's you that's lived it, you don't realize it until somebody else points it out to you. >> Like him like him looking at the binder saying, "Oh yeah, I did that." That kind of thing. Yeah. >> Good. Because it's just part of your life.
>> Yeah. >> Right. Right. >> And you just went into work every day and you just figured it was part of your everyday job. >> Which it was. But that's why But that's Yeah. >> Okay. Keep moving. Very good. >> Yeah. >> All right. Historical markers, Rafa,
anything? >> Well, I sent an email to my crows November 12. No response. >> There's a proof right there. The email. >> Okay. >> Is it something that you can just go in now into into the school? >> I can just like pop in. Hi, Mike. I
mean, that's what you need to schedule, but if it's not responding. So, >> does his department have their own secretary? I don't know why >> the Jackie person matchame
>> I don't know my initial point of contact but she would like >> but you off to him but I think I don't know if they have their own >> is a school secretary not worth it but if he had I don't know if the department had their own secretary I I don't know I don't know >> they go through the >> the main one >> main office
>> so last month when you weren't here Rafa we have some sign makers that we're going to use for another project um well that we can talk about later. But I thought also to approach these people at the same time
for the historical markers. See, you know, there's like three companies that I found that do like plaques like that one over there. >> Okay. >> Um so maybe they'll do historical markers too. Might be worth the question
when we, you know, when I reach out to them. So we can try that. Okay. I know because we have two waiting. I have two houses that someone's
interested in. Three houses that people are interested in. And I keep holding them off because we don't have a vendor. All right. Irene Wellington Dayton Wellington anniversary. >> Okay. What actually do you want
me to ask him? I went on today, Googled the brick church. There was a phone number. >> Doesn't tell me who the minister or pastor or whoever is over there at the brick church is very smart.
>> We gave you the name of the pastor. >> Yeah, we even looked up online, didn't we? >> I saw a picture of him. >> You I think you have it on your phone. Owens, >> I think so. and it said Reverend Owen and you said what's his first name and I said he wants to be called Reverend. >> Okay. Well, anyway, I did call the phone
number today. >> Okay. >> Left a message and I have not gotten a call back yet. Now, what specifically do we want to know? Are they doing anything for the two? >> Yeah, they they were uh not for the 250th. It's for their anniversary.
>> The Wellington. >> The Wellington. They came back together in >> Yeah. 1826. >> Oh, okay. >> 14 years after they >> 14 years after they had separated, Wellington and Don had separated >> and they had a great big at that church
they had a great big um >> wedding party >> wedding of the two towns and it it was called the wedding of two towns and they um >> had a you know like a picnic there. >> Okay. >> No bride and groom, right?
>> No bride and groom. Um, >> and this is just a wedding cake. >> So, this would actually be 200 years then, >> right? >> Okay. >> Right. >> Okay. I don't know how big that church is. Well, just what I could see on Facebook,
>> it didn't look like there was a lot. >> I've never been there. >> A very large membership. >> Well, I would be surprised if a lot of our churches in Dayton had a large membership at this point. >> Yeah. um just that it was such a part of their
history, the brick, you know, and we'd be willing to work with them if they want to have some kind of celebration. >> Are there meeting minutes from that from the celebration wasn't a a meeting, I guess, per se, right? that was recorded.
But there must have been an official there must there must meaning this must exist somewhere of the >> there's actually state law where two towns were formed by state um statute and where the town so it came back together
>> include the reading of that or something like that. >> What year was that you think >> because did we talk last month about looking in a town book? Yeah. >> 1826 right? 1826 I think it was. Yeah, >> we looked at the town books for the uh
>> I don't know that I have 1826. >> No, there might not be because I don't I don't think they they were published the annual reports weren't published until >> late 1800s. >> I think so. >> I wonder if they would have anything in there.
>> They part of their >> the church records. They might >> history of Dyon. It would be mentioned in there and I think it's mentioned in um in Helen Lane. >> It's definitely mentioned I I think so it is definitely mentioned in Helen Lane books. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh it is.
>> Yeah. Um it's definitely mentioned in the bsentennial book. >> Yeah. >> Um >> yeah what kind of detail? Just the fact that it happened. >> I thought >> right not meeting minutes. >> The herd's history might actually tell you something. You know,
>> I'll bring my notebook that I worked on when I did the study of Wellington. >> Oh, okay. >> I'll bring that back to the next meeting. >> Let me see. >> Okay. So,
next is the plaque for Cath for Katherine and the town flag. So that plaque over there under that plag is 10 by eight. Um,
so we would want it to kind of match that one. I think imagine that my phone's on the kitchen counter. I was going to show you a picture. So on that, if you look at it, it has very
small writing on it. Um, but it basically says, you know, who donated the flag, where it was flown, um, during World War II, and, um, that it was, you know, who the donors are. So,
I kind of started playing with something for our plaque. You don't need this bottom one. Pat, while you're passing that out, Herd's book does mention Wellington. >> I'm sure it does. >> Okay. >> As does Helen L.
>> Yeah, I've got Helen Lane's book at home, so I'll go through that. >> Um, I have hers electronically. I can send you the pages. >> That's what I was going to say. Can you send those >> the PD? Yeah. >> Okay. >> I I can send you guys the whole Don section of it, but specifically if you want to see the
>> There's only one I can look on. >> So basically, you know, it would go underneath the flag >> and just said it's a Dontown flag. It was created by Katherine Gomes yell.
Um in 1994, Katherine Gomes yell created the Dyton town flag to be displayed for the in the hollow flags at the state house in Boston and town hall in Dayton. She recreated the town seal and
precisely painted applique fabric on on a blue field. And this is right from um the book from >> the 200 the 200 the tsentennial. >> Yeah, the tsentennial. >> This town seal was designed by a committee of HC Briggs, AE Briggs and
Dwight F. Lane and adopted by the town in 1912. And um we found that in the town report from 1912. >> Then I just put Katherine was born in Dyon was active in town affairs and she passed away in two um 2007. And then
just us historical commission 2026 that we're making the plaque. >> Just a point of clarification on my part. Did she create the flag specifically for the purpose to be displayed in like if it wasn't going to be displayed in the hall of flags? was going to be created or did she create it
specifically for that reason? >> It was according to the article in that bookish it was rec created for >> for that reason. So we hadn't have one prior. It was just >> it just must have been when the state hall was doing state hall state house was doing that right we might as well do one so we should do
Yeah. I'm sure several already towns already had flags by that point but some probably did not. >> Right. You want to look at the last two sentences and they both begin Katherine, you know, it doesn't look very professional that way. I >> Yeah, I want to say something like born
in Don, Katherine was very active in town affairs and passed in 2007. >> Yeah, that sounds actually >> was she a for was she a was she a lifelong resident? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Born in Dayton. Say that again, Pat.
>> Born in Don. Catherine was active in town affairs. >> Yeah. >> Well, you if you want to put and sadly passed in because wasn't she sick? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, you Oh, yeah. Throw in something like and sadly passed in 2007.
>> That's all one sentence. Yeah. >> Okay. Born in Dayton, Katherine was active in town affairs and sadly passed in 2007. Are there any details about what the flag was made of? I know that sounds really silly, but I remember researching
something about the town's flag one time and it went that whatever town it was went into great detail about like the fabric used and like way more than when it went over my head. Like I mean I just I I didn't know is there any >> not that I've come across.
>> That's a replica of the original flag, right? >> No, she made two flags. >> One's in the state house and one's here. One's in the state house and one is here. >> Yeah, right there. >> So, do we want to say um >> that might that might be the one you want to point out? >> So, that's really really it. >> Why not one of one of the two flags
made? >> So, it's exactly the same size dimensions. >> I want to touch it. >> Yeah. >> Yes, it is. I know. >> It says precisely painted and appliqueed. Yeah. I want to go see that there's applique on there and there's paint. That's all. >> It looks like the gold sticks out. It >> does. It's cool. Yeah,
>> that's that applique. Oh, the strawberry. >> It is really impressive. >> Yeah, it honestly it's Yeah. >> I didn't realize it was only two applicants are gone. The tents are gone. >> This is machine stitch right here. You
can do this on machine. Did I do this on >> this stitch? It's just zigzag stitch. Yeah, it's a >> that's what all this is. >> So, she probably did it herself. You think that? >> Definitely. But you can still paint. >> So, is it worth saying they're handmade? >> Like like Yes, she designed it, but she
also literally made it with her two hands. I'm not >> But she didn't design she designed it based on >> she recreated the town seal in it. >> So, that's where >> it's a recreation seal. Okay. >> Does she And again, I'm being nitpicky,
but did she pick the color? Like why why blue? Why do we know? Why? Why not white? >> Up until that point, the the seal was basically back black and white. >> No, no, no. I'm sorry. I meant the color of the flag. >> No, he's saying the color. >> Oh, I don't know. I have no idea.
>> The thought process into the picking of the black the blue flag or not. >> What is sad about this thing is everything is gone now. Don strawberry industry is gone. Oh, that's what you're saying. Well, >> the rock's not gone. The rock is gone.
>> Well, the rock is there. The clouds are there. Come on. >> Well, nature. Yeah, nature exist. >> The rock is very much there. That's crucial. >> Right. Right. >> The rock is still there. It's over in Berkeley because Bur that part of Berkeley stole it from We need to reclaim it.
>> That would be that's our next project. Reclaim the rock. >> Our town border. So, do we want to um I think maybe it being handstitched or handmade or >> I don't know yet. You know, are you
going to be paying by the number of Oh, good point. Are you put in this? >> Oh, never mind. Then I have to take it back. >> I think this is just simple enough because Yeah. Yeah. Good point. At that point then Yeah. >> Yeah. Because if you put too much, you may be paying for every little word that's on there.
>> Eliminate some of these words. >> I mean, do we have any how much is on average per letter? >> GBT, please simplify these. It would. It would. It would. It would. Yeah. >> Which is crazy, right? All right. We'll keep working on the the
wording because we don't have, you know, we can have it for January. This might also be enough to get some prices. >> Right. We might find out that we're fine. We show a word or we could say, "Holy moly, we got to cut down 10 words here." >> Yeah. >> Depends for for characters, whatever.
>> This sounds very simple anyway because at least gives you people coming in now would have no idea of who who you know where this flag came from at least this gives the person credit who re and that's the main >> and I would suggest that when it's done
oh well no I guess this article but I feel like I was working on a project once about town flags and the lack of information the state house has on some of their flags are like oh we don't sometimes like when we did a you know they would send if you go into if you go
into the great the hall There's a touchcreen monitor >> where you can like >> type in or search by alphabetically by town >> and it shows you where the flag is located but also has a still image of the like of a photo or CGI drawing of the flag and like no information about
the flag as to who made it. But sometimes I've asked and they've been like yeah we don't know. It's just like the town just sends us a picture and then it sends a flag and that was it. But then there's sometimes that have like a three-page article in the newspaper about it going on and on and on about detail and like what the flag used to be or why they picked this and like because some flags don't have the
seal at all. You wouldn't even know like >> So you're saying you'll go to Boston and check it out. >> I've seen Well, I mean >> does Dyon have a description? Do you remember? I mean, I've been there, but I don't I just >> I don't I don't think the monitors don't have the monitors don't have that any
information about the flags, but like go me going on and asking after the fact like, "Hey, do you have any information about XYZ's town flag?" Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. It's not displayed in anywhere, but does it matter does the state have it? >> Yeah. I don't know. >> I I don't know. >> I would think they would try to have
something. >> It depends on what what they were given. Also, I don't think I don't think they looked anything up. It was more like, "No, we we sent out a call out for flags. Taton sent us theirs and that was it." Or sometimes they're like, "No, they came here and the journal did a piece about it and the person who made
it was here when they when they did it and they give us all this information." It just depends on whatever >> offshoot of this. Can can you check with the state house somehow to be sure that our at least Kathy Yell's name is associated?
>> Right. That's more that's more what I was looking for, you know, like >> beyond us. >> Yeah. >> If they're if they say no, we don't care about it. We don't take any information, okay, fine. But if they would like it, I would think that we should want them to have it. >> Yeah, I can actually. >> Okay.
>> All right. I asked Jack Gdt. They gave me two to three sentence version and one sentence version. >> Okay. This is the This is the one sentence version. >> It's a flag. In >> 1994, Katherine Gomez created the Dyon
Town flag by recreating the town's 1912 seal for display at the Massachusetts State House and in town hall. >> I don't like create and recreate within the same sentence that close together. Yeah, it's just me. In 1994, Katherine Gomesiel created the
Dayton town flag for display at the Massachusetts State House and in town hall. She recreated the 1912 town seal on a blue blue background using detailed fabric work. Katherine was born in Dayton and active in the community. She
passed away in 2007. >> That's actually very simple. >> That's a two to three sentence, right? >> That's like Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I think what you have is good unless we need to cut it down based on the cost.
>> If you feel like we need to cut it down. >> Reach out to those and send them to me. >> Sure. >> So that we have some alternatives and then we'll go from there. Okay. Does anyone else have any more input on
on this? Sounds good. Okay. Um, time capsule. >> It's in my house. >> Oh, I know it's in your house. >> I've been adding uh >> Oh, god. The copies of the Strawberry
Vine newsletters. That's all I could think. >> What? Pictures of Miss Paraguay. >> That's Yeah, I know. >> What? Paraguay. >> Mrs. Miss Paraguay. Yes. >> What about her? >> Is there a picture in your time capsule? >> Oh, it's not your time capsule.
>> Cap. Strawberry vine newsletter. It's like, okay. Every time I get a a copy, put it in the time capsule basket. Okay. I mean, she just likes I What else can I put? What else can you put?
>> So, what did you talk about last time? >> Did you um put something about the new library opening? >> Oh, yeah. I still have the program of it. If you you don't have a copy of yours. >> No, I don't. >> How about the programs for you to talk? >> Oh, yeah. The brochures. >> We'll throw those in there.
>> This is supposed to be 2024, right? Stuff from 202. >> Oh, right. >> Oh, but we're closed up yet and it's closed. >> That's true. 50 years from now that I'm going to nitpick. >> This was from 2026.
>> We could just say 2026. >> Yeah. >> Why? Yeah. Why do we need to have it? You know, I mean, >> it has to be it has to be open like 50 years from now. >> How many items do we have for it? >> Like 20 now. >> When are they all >> from us? >> They're all paper documents mostly.
>> Yeah. >> I was thinking from >> No old versions of iPhone. town library that should be in there and then the leaflets that we had done for the walks that should be in there. >> At first I thought like a town report was like we have town reports in the
vault that's not going anywhere. It's more stuff that like will be like I even thought like >> you know would be good one of those address books >> the street lift thing >> yeah cuz those aren't publicized so that would be good >> exactly who lived in Don >> that would be a really good idea those
aren't those aren't like things that are available electronically or things that are available like in the vault it's like well we don't need that time cap so there's ways of getting it if you want to look at it >> well I was thinking like what about like images or pictures from the festivals >> well that something like that would be great or like even like even festival
around town. Go go go take pictures of all like the locations like I mean there's I'm sure people can can donate something like we need like visual images. >> Yeah. A lot of that have been submitted so far. >> How many how many different people have submitted things?
>> Like since I moved it to Don December 2016. Oh my god. Like nine years ago. I started going to Strawberry Festival when it was still under the sun and I took videos and photos. I post it on Facebook and everywhere. I I can reprint them and just put them in the time caps.
So, but too much work though. >> I think if you just have a photo or two from, you know, like each event and if you and if you can identify the people that are in it, >> that'd be great. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Great. >> We must have some of those.
>> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah, >> for sure. We are not putting the video in of the walk. Why vanity? >> How was it? >> All the more reason to put it in there.
Not because it's reality, right? >> Reality. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, so we still have to decide on how we're going to contain this time capsule. >> I I mean, I liked the idea of the
library. Do you think that's an option? And we're waiting until it was done. >> Is there still an option? Is there room for it? I don't know. I'm just looking at our We have an empty shelf right in that thing. If we put it in a >> and we begin to sort of like have sort
of a a rotating exhibit. >> Well, we're always going to do that. >> We have nothing to go. We have nothing else in there besides that. >> Just the Boston Post came black. >> Yeah, we've That's >> Now, what was the date of the time capsule supposed to be? Was it
>> 24? We started >> Oh, 2024. Supposed to be open in what? 2074. >> Yeah. So you make 76. >> We can change the year of it though. It's not >> side with the 1776.
>> Oh, that's an idea. >> Okay, let's do it then. >> Done. >> That's a good idea. Let's make it Let's extend it until >> 26 then time capsule >> coincide with the 27 to6 uh tricsentennial, right? >> America's 250
>> 27 to6 tsentennial. You'll be dead by then. We could post. >> We'll all be gone. >> I will be. >> There's no more vanity. We'll just be 83. If this is the last Zoom recording
and it's going to be said 50 years from now, we're actually talking about the future right now. Okay. >> I'll be 83 and I'm not making it that far. I'll tell you that right now. >> All right. So, I mean, we could you know
what? I don't know what. Talk to Mark at the library. I don't know where they'd have a space. >> Do they have anything similar to that in the library right now? Do they have any kind of display cases? I don't think so. >> No, it's mainly shelving. It's all shelving. >> And I don't think there's anything any space really in the historical room
where they have like >> No, because of all of the windows. >> Nothing in there. >> You don't think there'd be a space? Let me on the shelf. Sure. There would be in that historical room. We But when you you want the behind
like people would behind glass like what was I >> Let me talk to Mark. >> That's all. >> Yeah. >> And locked. >> Yeah. >> And I'll talk to Mark >> and get his input on it and see what he thinks. >> I'll see him tomorrow.
>> Okay. >> Because we we definitely have a a deficit. We don't want to bury it based on the cost of how much it cost and everything. Right. >> Yeah. Then you'd be like the other towns. Where did we bury it? And then when you open >> like Adel not sealed properly didn't know where
they buried this time capsule. Yeah. >> So okay >> that's funny. It's not funny. >> I'll I'll check with Mark. We'll go on. So next preservation um review the nomination of the Mount Hope
Finishing Company and um area. So, I heard from Stacy and she's tightened up the boundaries on the area for the National Register um application. Um she also has figured out the scope of
the Olmstead Brothers involvement and she plans to have a draft for us by the end of January to start reviewing. So, um that's good news >> over for February's meeting.
>> Yeah, probably. Yeah. And also in the contract if we have any, you know, we can also set up a Zoom meeting if we want to discuss that with her once we've re we've reviewed it. >> We can go from there. Um I was thinking
ahead a little bit. So um for January, we should probably talk about our next areas and or buildings for updates to continue our updating of the macros database.
I know you had some questions about Broad Cove. >> Yeah, I was thinking of the a broad cove area the other day and there's still a number of houses dating from the time back then. It's relatively preserved considering when Route 24, well, Route
138 was laid out 1924, it basically stopped any kind of development in the area from changing. There's one structure in the Dyon Park Resort area that on it on Washington Street where the Dyon
Park Resort was there a building there that recognizes the >> um that that that part of it and I believe the Broadco Village area was like everything south of Harsh Street and the number of properties still there. Some of those properties were completed
during the first we and we that's the thing that's that's what kind of part like we have a lot of forms already. I wonder if that would be potentially a potential area especially because with all the town preservation of Bron Cove it's not going to be changed. It's not like we're going to see houses popping up there.
>> So for you know if you're doing an area up Mount Hope well the next thing you know the mill buildings coming down and what's the point? No, what's the point? But like this risk of losing that already as opposed to Broad Cove >> aside from those aside from old houses coming down which I don't know if kind of they're in it might not change
really. So it's just there's a possibility for an area considering that our obviously we can't just pinpoint one area. There's houses that go along together co at least was one consistent area historically in the schoolhouse is even still standing. >> Where's your borders? If you're talking
138 is your westerly border. No, I'm sorry. It would be every Elm Street because Elm Street is a street because like it was >> so Broad Cove went over 138 to Elm Street >> because Yeah, because the >> So Elm Street, the river, >> right? >> What are you doing for North and South?
Where what do you >> Har Street and then Somerset line? >> No, >> I don't know. I'm asking you. >> I I mean I I I think like from what I've seen people describe Broadco Village was everything south of Heart Street. >> That would include your family's farm.
That's the thing. That's also thing too like cuz the cuz the Dyon rock dairy farm has its own form with multiple buildings on it but that could that would without a doubt be included in Broadco Village >> as a way of preserving that aside from being its own separate thing.
And even the fact that one thing to ask Stacy is that this the stone boundary marker is technically in Somerset. Can we include that in an area form in our town? the where it says Somerset and Dyon.
>> Yeah, on the Mackers website. What street? I mean, >> it's on Elm Street and North. It's the corner of Elm Street and >> North Street. >> The MAC area form for it has it in Somerset.
>> Well, isn't it on the border? That's there. >> I know. So, but >> because there's an S on one side and a D on the other side. >> Is that possible? So I mean it's like so you know I know I know it never really went any further but the the Berkeley Bridge district village district that was talked about
>> was Ding and Berkeley. >> So even though the technical name of this marker is SOM >> 914 >> with an address of Elm Street Somerset >> Pleasant Street. >> Could that boundary marker be included in a Dyton area for
>> Oh the boundary of Don the boundary? It could be. Yeah, >> because 138 wasn't there, >> right? Went the right was the main thing. But what about Pleasant Street? Was that like a cop path? >> So, no. >> In I think it was 1934.
>> Yeah, >> I think it was is when William Cobb, right? He put the bridge across Broad Cove. Broad Cove. >> Oh, >> Cobb. And who Cobb and what's his name? Muddy Cove.
>> No, the No, no, no, no. That was It was Andrew's um >> the Bar Crow cove bridge that that crosses >> at Briggs. Charles Briggs. >> I believe they when they built that bridge, they also extended Hart uh Pleasant Street down
from Hart Street because if you look at old maps, 18 is 1854 because the 1850 map does not show the road crossing down. >> Correct. But the bridge was put in in 1854 and the 1870.
>> But we we'll have to take a closer look at that because that's at the end of Heart Street on Pleasant Street. That's a town landing road >> where that house is. I do believe that was a landing. >> I could be wrong. >> This is a town landing road. >> That map right there. That map right
there does not show. I I took a picture of it a little close up, but that if you look on it, kind of hard to see, but Broad Cove is not >> doesn't have a >> So, if you look right here,
Heart Street will be here. There's no Pleasant Street down that whole strip. There's no bridge. So the village would have been here but then eventually
was continued over here when the road was came down when the bridge was built >> street is right here. >> What's that right there? >> So >> the river >> No, right there.
>> Heart. >> What does it say? >> That's heart street. >> Heart. And then comes to a town landing. That's right on the river. >> Yeah. Yep. And then Best Pleasant. >> Yeah. >> But Pleasant stopped there. >> Oh, all right. All right. >> Stopped there. >> And it wasn't until the bridge is put in that the road continued.
>> Oh, all right. Oh, okay. I was I was thinking the other way. I was thinking like Heart Street ended. >> Oh, wow. >> Okay. I see what you're saying. All right. So we take a a look at that and you know I think we should just
brainstorm different areas too because >> that rock >> I know there's more rock >> you know um there's a lot of houses that we haven't done so we can either do another like smaller
project or we can do a big project or >> what's a big project what do you consider a big project to be? Well, like when we did um first two surveys, you know, we did the um basically the South Don, the houses that were 100 years old plus. So that we had
houses on Center Street, we had houses on 138, you know, um along Pleasant Street, Main Street, we did Elm Street. So that was the first one and we got a grant
from the state for that and CPC funding. Um the second one we was North Don and the Mount Hope which we got CPC funding for. >> Then the G's Hill area is really only a couple houses. A lot of them are in like
a lot of the Horton like that's a lot of like new street in those standing houses. There's no the only town the only Horton street is the the Horton house. So Handing that we know for a fact was owned by Hortons is
the one that was owned by T0. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So >> yeah, >> aside from those few golf properties, I don't really know if that area >> there's other houses in there that we didn't do.
>> Oh, okay. because we only did nine >> and broad co you could think about could also include the the be's ledge that part two but the bees ledge is mentioned in the dyon rock far dairy farm form
>> and that's you rock dairy farm >> so I guess we can review if everyone would take a minute and review the dyon rock dairy farm and our forms on Elm Street. It's a higher number. Um >> I I even >> Rod Cove >> thinking that we were going to put it on
the agenda for tonight. I I already have them separate on a spreadsheet. I can email them out. >> Okay, do that. >> I don't have the I have >> Yeah, I have links to the documents, but like I in this tab right here, you can download all the properties on Excel. I basically copied and pasted the
ones that were >> Yeah. >> mostly mostly in that area. There might be more now with there's an another study done. >> Okay. If you just email it out to everyone so we can start taking a look. Anyone else have any thoughts or opinions or
regarding a big project? Now that the library is out of Main Street, out of Carnegie building, would there be a push to do something with that building? Because of course the town has other things to think about like which section of Main Street
they're going to shut off on me next. So I can't >> I can't help. I know >> it was closed in two areas. Now this is a funny story. Whoever's listening. It was closed off on one end. So I pull out of my driveway and I go down and the
cop goes, "No, go around." Okay. So I turn the car around. I'm not arguing with you. I got to get out of there. I turn the car around. I go up the hill and the cop says, "No, turn around." I shut the car off in the middle of the road. I walked up to the cop and I said,
"Look, I'll go either way. You tell me. Let me out one way. There are no other telling me no. I'M NOT BEING A JERK. There's no other ways for me to get out." And so he looks at me and swear to God, the man goes, "Where do you live?" I told him. He said, "Where are you
going?" >> I told him. >> "What time are you coming back?" Now I'm getting mad. >> No kidding. >> Does it matter? >> No kidding. >> Does it matter? >> No kidding. Where you going? leave my house that I pay taxes at and I'm going to come back at some point. He wanted to
know where I where I start from, where I'm going to, how long will you be. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> As my car is parked in the street because no one will let me get out of Main Street. This is the worst show you've ever seen. If you don't live on
Maine, you can't appreciate. >> What was the name of the officer? >> I know the police officers. I'm not that stupid. I'm not going to mention >> No, not now. Not not now. >> But they had they had a section that was blocked up. So one day I'm trying to get up Main
Street to go to Arujo's. Oh, it's blocked. You can't go. So I went down Milk Street all around Robin Hood's Vine to get to Arujo. So I'm wondering, they just worked on that up the street. Why did they get it blocked off again? >> What if there's an emergency vehicle
trying to pass through? >> It's not done. Oh. >> So anyway, anyway, your point was to about that. That's my point. >> Carnegie building. Yes. >> So, um, something, you know, should we look at a project?
>> What do you want to do about that? >> The last time we talked, >> want to do anything about that? >> We couldn't do anything about it until it ceased being used as its current use. What else? >> I understand there's still some things to do. So, yeah. When's that gonna close? You could ask Mark that >> and and Right. And like what's the next
step in confirming it's no longer being used as its use, right? >> Or former use. >> Approach or whatever and say whatever it is you want. >> There hasn't even been a form done on that building ever, has there? >> There hasn't even been a form on the library the public sidewalk
>> the building itself >> to the left hand side of your head. I would think because of the carne factor alone, >> but you have to and we did ask about that have to do the interior of the building. We never follow through. >> We said we never followed through on that.
>> Well, we also want to wait until everything was out of it too. >> Well, no, this library. >> Oh, okay. So, this before I was on board then. Okay. >> I kind of have some not about that. As long as it's still being used as a library, >> um, >> it's remains a town building.
>> Understand that. So, the conversation that I did talk with the town administrator and all options are on deck for it, including possibly selling it. Yeah. >> I said I would disagree with that totally and would advocate not to because it's a a jewel for the town of
Dyon. >> Turn it to a condo or something, >> you know. So, >> back fill all the land back there. It slopes right down. I don't know what you would do. back part of the the property >> ends shortly and it goes into the Zenica ICI property
>> and I would ask >> but um maybe we should write up a plan for a historic >> picture and send it that they consider selling it >> that that would even be an option. Yeah, I know he's the agent. >> I thought I would.
>> Wow. >> They can sell that. Um yeah, let's do that. Dump that next because the problem becomes like of the historic value the connections to the town when they're looking at
finances of the town and what what is >> which I understand but I mean >> you know >> what purpose is it serving the town and can we afford to do it? Not only I understand looking at it that way disagree because I think it's a jewel to the town
>> but also also what I would ask this >> the amount of money we get for that parcel >> I would do that >> would it be worth it >> how much money how much money do you think the town would really get for that parcel land >> I don't know I I don't know I'm not being sarcastic I don't know but would whatever dollar would it
>> but that couple hundred thousand >> but what it is is when you're looking at it as what is the function to the town I think Right. It's vacant. I put a price. You can't put a price tag on historical jewel when you >> No, no, no, not happen. >> I do think it would make a very
wonderful spot for the historical commission and other >> other offices to share and have a space, >> you know, >> open space open space playground. The town can get rid of that >> growing. No, it it would have to go through a
process. >> Okay. It has it would have to go to town meeting. It just can't be decided. And it would have to and I you know and then that's when we would have to stand up and voice our our position. Yeah. >> Yeah. On it. >> I'm sure a lot of people probably don't.
>> Oh yeah. >> So but then the question is all right. So let's say let's say it goes in our favor. All right. It is voted that we do not get rid of it. >> Now what the town people going to that I guarantee the town people who are like fine don't sell it. What do you do with it now? Spend money turning into something else. spend more money. I'm
just playing devil with aggregator. >> So, is this that CPC money that you're you're preserving something historical? CPC. So, is that I'm talking down the line. Yeah. Right. No, >> that's a good point. Oh, yeah. I mean, >> that's what it's for. I >> just The reason why is I know when So,
right now Swansea has vote Swansea is building a new junior high school building and as of right now two plans. One was to build off of the current historic junior high building or make a whole new one. They decided to go with
the whole new one. Everyone's asking, "What are you going to do now with that old one? Tear it down, put a house there. You going to turn it into a town hall building cuz they think they need nothing. They do need a new town hall building. Are you going to merge two elementary schools and put it there?" Everyone's asking, "Great. What's going
to happen to that building?" The first once they know that the new one's being built, what's happening to that old one? That's the second >> those are the same questions that they were asked about segreg remember six years ago >> but right but it's but way more of a topic when this is a usable building >> just will cost money to do make it
usable >> well to bring up the code >> every space should be usable every every building that belongs to the town is usable >> right >> and if the town is growing obviously we need more space you cannot just put everything all the activities in one
building you have to have other buildings as well other spaces And remember remember when um when Nancy Gulard was the uh was a board of selectman. >> Yeah. >> About the James Briggs house. One of her one of the reasons why she voted to have
that house demolished is just so it could be that space could be used as a future space for new buildings belonging to the town. >> So you're talking about that we already have a building right here that we could perfectly use for other town related activities and whatnot. You know what I mean?
>> So does making sense? So, why don't we um start to put together I don't know what what we want to call it like a a proposal of use or a position paper on the Carnegie building. So, you know,
think about it, bring your thoughts or you can email me your thoughts and we'll put it together in kind of like a I guess a position paper. Well, are we talking about >> about why >> it's a new use or putting it on the National Register of Historic Places? >> First of all,
>> it's important. >> Okay, so that first Okay. >> importance to Dayton. >> Okay. >> What? Worry about the details of what you want to do and maybe it's those details that'll be, you know, good that'll save it, >> you know, but worry about first
>> who would consider selling that. >> Okay. >> Or just letting it sit too. >> Yeah. And that's no good for anything. that building. It would be a matter of time what happens to that one too, >> you know. Um, and the position is that uh there are
committees that need a space to be called a home, you know, and we're one of them. Our file cabinet is in the stairway at town hall. That's our our office space, you know, >> um,
>> a meeting room for us rather than competing with everybody here. I would say that, you know, there's plenty of, you know, we have this and lower level. Yeah. >> And the funny thing is that when you I'm on the town assesses map right now. >> Looking at the size parcel of land,
>> what is it? A quarter of an acre. It's not a half, is it? >> No, it's not a half. >> 43. >> 43. Okay. >> Almost. >> Almost. >> What is that? >> Library. >> Yeah. >> Like what can you put there?
What can you put there? We're going to have to come a for zoning to put a house there. So, it's not we're not frontage. >> Not a house. >> All right. So, >> and there's no >> for January, >> you know, email me your thoughts and we'll kind of put it into some kind of a
position about the importance of the library to Don or the Carnegie building. >> Yeah. The right. Yeah. And I do know that, you know, there are still things in there that are belong to the library and they are going through
them. You know, it's a matter of finding a home. >> Question on that. >> Maybe we can pressure the >> do the friends like the grants >> as a tumbling. Could I go in there if I wanted to? Like could anyone go in there in the building right now if they wanted to or do they? >> So who who owns the access? So who who
reserves the access to the building? >> Library trustes. And then and they still do. Yeah. >> When will when will they cease having access? >> When they're done with >> moving everything out. >> Let's do a a uh like a not walking tour, but a uh
>> invite people the building and >> we can't invite. It's not our building. >> That's why I was asking that cuz I didn't know. >> We can't It's still under the >> It's under the gun of the trustees >> and the trustes. for the convince the
board of trustees if we could have a little tour for the public. >> Oh, you can not for the public. >> Oh, sure is. >> Not now. >> Okay. Well, just an idea because people are wondering like, okay, well, try to convince me to save. >> Well, I was thinking I was thinking >> I cannot help you save the library when
I as I was thinking more so for us. >> Well, that was one of the thoughts that the >> like can we >> historical commission we >> their home? >> I would say if for every kind of report we do, I wouldn't want to write anything without having >> without having the most updated without
having what what it's like in there right now. We can also request to meet with the board of trustees of the library. >> Okay. >> Tell them we want to go for a tour of the building. >> Yes. Nothing to do with the >> no library. Yes. That's all
>> because it it kind of reminded me of when the town was >> so we have a little bit more to go by. >> Right. When the town was going back and forth and the whole do we need a new police station thing until the public walked through it and they were like holy moly we need a new police station. >> All right. >> Until then that really got it going. So, I feel like I have no problem pitching
something, but like >> I I got to know I'm pitching and I haven't been in that building since I was probably eight years old. >> Okay. So, I will request that we meet with the library board of trustees. I don't know when their next meeting is >> and you know, we can talk to them.
>> Ask them if we can have a tour. >> Oh, is the meeting the tour? >> I I can ask if we'd like to meet with you at that location if we can. Oh, what? >> I'll talk with maybe even see if we can arrange a post a special meeting for it. >> Yeah,
>> sure. Yeah, >> it's still got electricity. >> Yeah, >> it has to have some sort of >> We can go any time, right? >> All right. So, I will do that. Anything else under preservation? >> No. Okay.
America's 250. Um, we'll be meeting with Bristol Aggie tenatively on December 16th to finalize the site for the reenactment. We're working on a memorial podium uh to recognize the Revolutionary War
veterans. We're finalizing the calendar of events for next year. And the next meeting is January 5th. And what did I do with this? Is the coin that's being sold for
$25. >> Heavy. >> Heavy. >> It's really old. >> Not. >> So, for the record, no, it's not. Sorry. >> Is it gold? >> Not. >> Is it gold? No. >> No. >> How?
>> Yeah. Yeah. That keeps it in her pocket. sales going >> um slowly right now because we just started advertising. They are on sale at >> I advertised it on four different Dyon okay >> Facebook pages. >> Okay. >> Do you know when the newsletter was going out to the schools with the drama?
>> No, I sent all that. The library has it. I sent it to Rafa today the play to put on the sites. It's true. I keep I keep forgetting we don't need the schools. So I went >> come to you 451. >> Aren't there responses already?
>> We have them. We have them all locked up. So nobody takes them. >> All right. So um CBC didn't have any November meeting didn't have any. And sharing is there any
I had a question. Flat rock I know the flat rock school house and all that stuff. Um was it ever a hill or was it just a literal rock? >> It's a rock. >> Is it still there? I don't know why I
read somewhere. I thought it was blasted a long time ago, but no, it's not. >> It's in the basement. The building The building didn't always face William Street, >> right? It was turned. Right. So, the So, the rock was in the basement of the schoolhouse. >> Yep. >> So, where is this on William Street?
>> Where it meets >> Travis? Rosie Travis. Don was her husband. Home. It's where it meets >> Albert's there now. >> Williams and uh Williams, you know the house that all overgrown, but they had one green candle in the window. Do you remember?
>> Yeah. No, I do. Yeah. >> Albert, >> it's still Albert. Alba's still there. It's >> right next to um the White House. Eyebrow house at the top of Camber's house. >> Oh, Camber's Oh, that's right next door.
>> Flat Rock is in next door to Camber's house. Oh. Oh. Oh, okay. Okay. >> How how big is the rock? >> Is it like >> I don't know >> like big as a table. Is it like a >> I would guess it would be the size of the table >> cuz Herd's Bristol County book mentions
that is also referred to as Davis Hill. Davis Hill is down the street from Williams where I live. I would go to the um if I were to go to that school society because Samuel was in the 1860s. >> That's like William Street that white
house. >> Okay. >> The hill near the society house. >> So then what's Reed's Hill? >> Huh? >> What's Reed's Hill? The bsentennial mentions a Reed's Hill. >> I don't know. >> Ain't much of a hill over farm. So
that's what I assumed it was at. But so on in that I looked on a map um the bsentennial mentions uh Dr. George Wear, the son of the son of the >> Oh, ask me about the wares. >> The son of the So the son of the town
doctor living on a farm known as Reeds Hill south, sorry, Reed's farm south of Reeds Hill. And if you look at an old map, there was an AW Reed that lived at the in the same area as
>> well. Yeah, >> that's where I grew up. So I'm I'm on that hill. If you're calling that Reed's Hill, we never called it Reed's Hill. Did you ever see anything called Skunks Hollow? >> No. >> Because that's Skunks Hollow. Evidently, a lot of skunks went by. Oh, really?
>> And there was a lot of skunk cabbage. You know, I was going to say skunk cabbage in there. 18. So 1858 is when is when >> there was a reed there >> an awed >> okay so >> which hill >> George Wear's house do you remember my talking about the poor farm for one year
the poor farm was in George Wear's house >> before they got the place on Smith Street they were on Main Street on the hill you know the hill >> you know where I used to live when I was a kid fine that's a hill never called it Reed's Hill didn't have I don't have any
recollection of a read. >> I know. That's why was it so >> impressed with your >> AW? >> I was so interested in that. Yeah. >> The mention of Reed's Hill does not say >> that's Main Street. That's Main Street because there's Pit Store.
>> Yeah. >> So that's the corner. So that's what he's a A Reed is right there. >> So Flat Rock would have been right there. >> Flat Rock. So this is Main Street. I'd have never heard that called Reed's Hill. That doesn't mean it wasn't. That's right. It doesn't. >> And now what about now? Where would this
Davis Hill be? >> Go down William Street. >> Right before the Historical Society. Yeah. You know the big hill >> that that that Davis. >> Yep. Sam Davis right there. So there's a hill here because the Winslow Davis house is named after Samuel Davis who
was select. >> Then Herds County is incorrect. >> Some of Herds County is incorrect. >> It does. And now I can. >> So there's Herds County and there's another one. >> There is another one I forgot who bloopers.
>> Um >> so this is what it says. It says um besides Richmond and Hunter Hill, there are two round crests of land in the western part of town known as Davis Hill and Goff Hill. The latter named for Elder Goff being near the Rahobit line
and the former running north from Pit's Corner known as Flat Rock. So like no fat rock and David said would not be the same thing. So that's that makes that that's incorrect. >> There are some things that in Herd's history aren't that aren't quite right
because the the story of Stout George Briggs is it in Herd's there's two versions of that of course one is in Herds and then there's and Herds I think is the one that has the different ship that he was on >> and another I can't think of the name of the other publication you're talking
about. >> Yeah. So, but there is also another history of Bristol County and I is it Emory? >> Yes. >> Um, >> nice thing >> that has So, when you compare the two of them, you can kind of get a sense because you got to remember whenever
history is written is written by 1883 >> by a person, you know, >> some things he puts footnotes on and most things he does not >> and then but it's also whatever the history is that they're writing that they think is the history of the time. It's funny you say that. So
the >> like how they're going to write history now. >> The >> um >> history it's it's the point of view of the writer. >> The map that was compiled for the 250th >> Oh, I know. Yeah. Yeah.
>> The one that has all the cemeteries listed on it. >> Yeah. >> So it mentions I even asked about it. She's like I've never heard of that. West of Beiel's Hill of Beiel's ledge called Mount Pleasant. I'm like, Ma,
when is there even a Mount Pleasant in Diane? I've never heard of one. She's like, I don't think there ever has been. >> You're talking south of Heart Street. >> Yep. So, south even of of Hunters Hill, something called Mount Pleasant. >> Was it a cemetery? >> No, cuz it's in the same It's in the
same font and writing as the area. So speaking of that, it says Le or Pit's Corner. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Did anyone ever refer to it as Lee's Corner? >> Yeah. >> Oh, really? >> Main and Williams. >> So So pre or post pits was it known by
that? >> But you have heard people >> guess pre >> I would think. >> I would guess. >> Yeah. But >> but if you want George Way cemetery, I have it. I have his headstone. That's mine. Mine. Did you take it from the cemetery?
>> Auction off. >> We built a new gate for the cemetery. We cared for the cemetery for years. >> Hey buddy, this is mine now. >> And I documented everything on every stone. And I took a piece of paper oriented myself how many stones are over and what each edstone just like Helen
>> because in the 40 years that I've been there you can't read things now as anywhere near as clear as you did 40 years ago when I showed up there and wrote everything. >> How many in there? How many heads are in there? How many stones? >> I've lived there 40 years. How many stones are in there? 12 13 14 something
like that. That's just a fast guess. >> How many of the wear last name? It's the wear church cemetery. That's the name of it. You ever see it in some of your things, it's wear >> churches in there and there were wares in there. >> Oh, okay.
>> Right. >> Very good. Now, did >> either person but that name live in that area? So, was it like George where lived in the house that was the courthouse? >> Oh, street. >> George. Okay.
>> On the south side of Main Street. I lived on the north side of Main Street. There was no house there. It was built by a family called Perry Suit. Joe Perry Suit. >> Yes. Perry Suits. So the Portuguese family and they hyphenated two last
names, Perry. So his name wasn't first name wasn't Perry, it was Joe, but Perry Suit was their last name. Last name >> and they sold that house in 1951 to my father and we've owned it ever since. >> Did George Wear become a town physician, too? like like his father. >> He was a doctor.
>> He was a physician. Was he the the town physician? He was >> Yes. Yes. >> Okay. Interesting. >> Yes. Very. >> Yeah. I love it. Um our next meeting is January 13th, 2026. >> Oh, you just said something and it's a
light bulb just went off. I'm sorry. William O. Lee. >> Oh. >> Lived there in Camber's house before Camber lived there. >> Oh. >> So you asked me if the corner was known as Lee. >> Yeah. >> That was William Oie's house. >> Yeah.
>> Now Pitts >> was the male station, the male store there. Okay. Yes, it was pre pits because Lee is William O who lived in the White House >> which is Camber's house which has either Trump in the window or Santa waving at
you. Gotcha. Next door to Flat Rock School. >> Gotcha. >> Okay. So, yes, it was definitely Lee Corner. >> It's funny how like like you know there's like the fish corner school and all these. I'm surprised it didn't become known as pits school considering
it was right on their land. So evidently the flat rock was more prominent than the people. What can I tell you? >> As a land I I would have been insulted. Excuse me. Like after the rock. Okay.
>> The fish school was named after a person who Right. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So >> but it must have been however when people settled in certain areas they were known as so and so's corner or this one's hill, >> right? Because because that would become a schoolhouse
>> because they didn't have >> quite some time after >> names cuz they were road names or anything at that point in time >> because William Street was called upper upper street. >> Yeah. >> When my mother moved to Dyon in 1951, her address was RFD which stands for
rural free delivery >> number one Don S. No Main Street. Main Street wasn't Main Street in 51. Come on people. Is it because it was Main Street was the one that's on that's currently Water Street? No, >> not Water Street. >> It was Main Street. >> Main Street was always Main Street where
they block your car both ways on highway. >> Main Street's always been Main Street, but her address when you sent her >> her mailing address. >> How weird is that? In 51. >> Yeah, >> because when I lived in Berkeley on South Main Street in Berkeley, ours was
RFD1 Berkeley, Mass. But you had a street name though, right? >> No. >> No, >> you didn't. So it wasn't even Wow. >> Your mailing address didn't have a street name on it. >> The street might have had a name, but was to RFD1. >> I see.
>> So where would you pick up your mail? >> It was off in a mailbox. >> Oh, okay. So there's no central like post office. >> Berkeley's never had a post office. They did get a zip code finally. >> They still have a post office. That's interesting. >> Really?
Everything goes out of taunt or she'll come to Diane. I've met her there. >> Sometimes post office were located in the in the local store like grocery store. >> Well, when they were petitioning whatever to get a zip code, it was going
to be at the Berkeley Common store >> and then all of a sudden it must have fallen through or whatever. So, they still kept the zip code, you know. But I can remember I always said RFD. >> That's so crazy that a post office in
the way they mail. Yeah. So, >> and you had a rural carrier that delivered your mail your name on the box and we had Mr. Riley who never was satisfied with the height of the mailboxes. >> Oh,
>> and he argued with my uncle. Now, my uncle cemented his in the house. >> See, that's not moving. And my uncle said, "It ain't moving." Well, he said, "It's not up to code." And my h my uncle had measured it because I remember the big fight he had with Mr. Riley. Remember Mr. Riley had glasses like this
and he >> got on his You want to interview that for your story for preserving memory. The mail station was across the street from Lee's house. He had a garage. They was a building there and that was a mail station.
>> Is that the building now that somebody's living in? >> Yes. >> Yes. And the dog the doggy daycare. >> A doodle daycare. Yes. Let's put two and two together, shall we? >> Interesting. She's >> I often wondered what she still live still lives there. The owner of the dog
dog house dog house dayare lives there. It is still It is still a house. >> It's a house. The doggy daycare. Only if you have a doodle. >> It's Yeah. Specifically for >> you German Shepherd. You can't bring your dog there. >> That's discrimination. That is
>> a lean dog. So anyway, >> our next meeting date is >> Sorry. >> January 5th. Yeah. Oh, what happened to the 5th? >> What? >> Oh, no. That's the next meeting is January 5th for the um 250th. >> Oh, okay. >> So, ours is the 13th at 6.
>> Gotcha. >> Here, I did send you all our meeting dates for 2026. Do you want me to put a reoccurring um meeting calendar on the site just to have it
reoccurring just the calendar itself and then we just add the agenda to it? >> I thought that's what we did already. We don't >> Yeah. Can you do that? >> Yeah. I feel like it's easier for >> I thought we I thought we have all one. >> Well, is that what Leanne adds the agenda to
when I give it to her? Give it to you? I would think so. Just for zoning. >> Oh, so you could just add it. >> So we can as long as I have the all of the meeting dates. >> Yeah, >> we can do reoccurring. >> Okay, let's do that. >> And then just the agenda gets added to
it. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> One of these cuz she's got >> Yeah, I got that. Okay. >> Yeah, I did. And then I spilled my water all over it so I don't bring it in. Go figure. >> As I was leaving, I was like,
>> Pat, have a response to form. >> Oh, good. Good. Um, correspondence. We didn't have any. >> So sad. >> So sad. Um, they wanted to talk. So anyway, >> was greeting.
>> Um, that's that. I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> Post. We are adjourned. So, >> hold on. Hold on. >> Who was it? >> I got to learn a little more history of
the town. Everybody know what's going on