##VIDEO ID:hT_W_m52Tfk## okay um I'll call the meeting of the D historical commission to order it's January 145 and it is 607 6:07 p.m um the listings of matters are those reasonably anticipated by the chair which may be discussed at the meeting not all items listed May in fact be discussed and other items not listed may also be brought up for discussion to the extent permitted by law uh this meeting is being recorded and will be shown at a later time on the YouTube channel [Music] stand IED to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all person the secretary's report I just had one change the motion that for to accept um the minute for November 12 was made by Zachary not me okay so does anyone El have anything else all right um then I will entertain a motion to accept the minutes of December 10th 2024 as amended so there second second all in favor post okay it passes all right our budget so we didn't have any expenses through December so our budget is still the same as it was in November so it's $1,141 and13 and we still have the $80 encumbered um again there's no changes on the C gains of Schoolhouse gift account or the donation account so looking at the anticipated expenses um I estimate the historical markers just for our purposes so we know where we're heading towards the end of the year that the historical markers around $200 if we're talking about for Oldtown Hall and maybe the Smith Memorial all in library um there is a conference in June I'll talk about that later um I figure probably $250 for attendance and then um $150 for travel is that ums am um office supplies we we can use three more notebooks with the large tab device ERS partly for our um survey notebooks and also um I keep all of our agendas and minutes and stuff in a historical commission notebook so people that follow us will have I'm still working on the C the Technologies getting estimate for putting the 10 properties with the wbite survey on to the map that's a minimum of 200 I found the contract that we had through the town that contract it was for an hourly rate them expired June 3024 so I found the contract this week um I will reach out to them to see if can prop and then of course we have the of the West surveys that y60 we get all the way down to it probably bu those expenses so that's where our present day budget stands so now what about the we have a walk so depending on the price for that so we have $300 for that printing okay did you count that or is that kind of the 250 you got left over no I didn't count the the walking because the donations that's a separate account that's not in our our budget so got separate line item that um we can expend from but it doesn't to townend the that was a so hopefully that is enough to so our proposed budget all the% decrease minim but then I started know so we look at it from the zero based budget side you know building from zero and building up and trying to anticipate what kinds of expenses that we are going to have um for fy6 so I looked at the professional and Technical and um you know historically we always put in like seven people to go to historically there's been maybe two three of us interested so perhaps it is Les that we say you know only three people I'm going we've never all same um so and then I so then I looked at the I check the RO of St stay at 73 cents I me $73 and um okay that um so the professional te I did two budgets one that I built from zero base and then one that I built from when we B last year cut you so the communications for this one this is the one that I buil z b so in the professional and Technical it would be um $450 know other suppies this is where we taking our historical markers from you know when we bought for the firecracker Festival there is no firecracker Festival so we're not going to be buying anything like that um we don't have any present plans we do another survey up that um we don't have any plans for that um the only thing we do have that we committed to was the of the old grure which looks like it probably will be in fy6 and not um and that's office is there anything anybody planning for the 300 birthday that we would all pitch in for I know everybody's got their own little thing okay so is there any plan from that meeting that you go to that every Department gives in money we're not doing anything no okay no at this time not at this time um certainly build 250 happen I don't know you think it's going to happen well so far the plans for that are you know reenactment um the walking foris PA maybe some first you but's say somebody comes up with that ball or party idea you think all the little people would have to pitch in Fin and we did talk about having that idea because of the expense of it and you know and I knowx they just lost of all the to two ones I would [Music] say right what what are surrounding I mean I know it's a little off topic but what are surrounding town I'm not sure um so and then Trav I $150 um that it's 70 estimate iot but that gives us a total of $1,080 for our budget the biggest expenses that we had that we always put for was professional technical conferences and then other supplies survey and all survey forms um so those were our two big expense lines and when you take and we bought all those things um for the firecracker Festival we bought wristbands and crayons and um we bought those and then we bought t-shirts for the commission you know so and we haven't done that nor have we really talked about doing that we6 will we need to put money out for your um when you talk to people no I don't memories D Memories We need any technology will we need some or anything no I mean not that I'm I was was not anticipating that I mean especially if did we ever get an answer regarding the town's digital storage the quot unquote Cloud not really no we didn't okay because either way the only expense would be if we if there wasn't one existing and we' then had pay for war but I mean I said then that then another topic of well is it coming from is it Town property or is it pill's property who's paying for it is it a town email address associated with then it belongs to the town where's the funding coming from or it's coming from Pac hypothetically speaking coming from Paco's pocket so youan that's a whole whole different topic terms of like who's paying for or it equals Who belongs to so that being said kind it's kind of risky I would think putting into our budget because then it's a matter of commission own it or the town own so but we are we in town from from the town right so basically I guess also if there is a digital Cloud that exists somewhere which there must be because like I I said before when when the zoning board uploads our agendas to the the town website when planning board uploads those meeting packets are very to a lot of space those have to be stored digitally somewhere would Laura know that I well she may especially because the anything that the town films must be stored digitally somewhere that's my point right so I'm saying is we may not need to worry about building in a line item for that if a digital Town storage already exists somewhere now I think part of the reason why we're holding off on that discussion is because I think it was during the transition of time administrator yeah and now that we have a new one yeah yeah because we were talking I know Mike was talking and he was talking to our um Tech Guy and there were a lot of emails are going back and forth but we've never really heard back I mean we I feel we did our end up but I think you know you wanted me expl right exactly what we're looking for I think we did that and you passed that along and I remember seeing their responses back but there was there on back almost we'll get back to you or right we have not heard back yet given that we're going to probably be starting those within fy2 oh yeah oh yeah I would say perhaps for some safety we should invest in some thumb drives for you to use to and when they record it so that that can be transferred to a thumb drive just for the time I think that's a good idea because we can order those off of um Amazon because the town has an Amazon account correct okay so let me just if everyone's in agreement is the microphone pick like this oh I don't know [Laughter] [Laughter] what made you think of that well he's not taking any notes he's the secretary oh is that work I'm not taking my eye is okay so I'm just looking up the so a thumb drive the size roughly get team for like $2 your fingers that it work 56 gigabytes which is plenty yeah oh yeah a thumb drive for that on Amazon is $25 oh which is insane because I remember when a half that size came out and it was like 50 bucks yeah I know so stles and now would that be enough to be our one and only thing to last us for no it would not be enough space but but for for now until we get for the d sword that's plenty of space and that's the first one I pulled up $25 on Amazon okay so if if we're factoring that in the budget we would only need one of those and okay and the first that come up the amazon brand for 25 bucks is more than sufficient any hard copies of anything we talking a notebook are you talking anything that's nothing that I don't already have that I'm willing to use so no I don't I don't for I like if anything like you know a microphone that stuff would have been necessary if cable would hadn't had the studio so now we have that but like my own like nothing that I'm going to okay so if we get that size thumb drive that would last for quite a while $25 Amazon did you say what $25 yes and then I found one that's that's a two pack for 30 bucks a two pack at 256 each for 30 bucks Teo is 576 dud don't do $57 I thought you looking up Staples something reputable put that away yeah they all the same $576 look 4.7 rating it's probably this yeah R it anyone just throw throw rating on there it'll only be this big when it comes oh did you want a real it's going be a drive from a thumb actual thumb that's what you wanted you what you wanted sir the thumb drive the Little Wheel I have zero faith in I do I have I have zero faith no I wouldn't buy I love I just ordered two pairs of shoes love them hold them of paper I ordered something that came in and I'm a little afraid to even put it in my car yeah okay I'm G to order one for myself and prove you guys we don't need this like right away no no so we can wait and order that you know like next we just talk and throw some money in the budget for that that's right yeah no but I'm saying this can come out of this year's budget yeah right right right true um we can research it you we don't have to make a decision tonight just get the best price and also if the best quality it's qu quality and also you know is it a town vendor or you know how are we going to handle that oh they come in four different colors vend Wow Let's get with the program there this agenda please all right so that's my zero base kind of budget that I built and then I said well you know when we look at it um I also did one for like $1,150 saying that you know again in the professional and Technical up in it to 490 would be for three members and then you give $40 in casee there's a price change or if there was something you know that we had to use a consultant for and pay like not $40 is going to do a lot but just in case the mailings would be the same at 80 the other supplies would be up to um 430 you know for the printing of our um brochures and you know office supplies and then again the 150 for travel so that puts you up to $1,150 Shar what is the town reimburse for gas for mileage for travel 7 cents per mile per mile y so like from here to UMass mher like is 120 miles one way I got 107 going up 495 from my house 107 times 70 times to $149 180 is for one person round trip to yous Amherst at 107 miles right that's assuming I don't see being any I don't being any farther away than Amherst yeah so Amherst is in is this June right um so that would be the max if the other conference was at 150 you know out there then you would go there or you have three people that are going to conferences you know granted we were try and carpool say we you know two people are going and they can't car poool for whatever reason so you want to do try you do want to try and give them the benefit of that out even because like when we went up to um Fort devans it was like $45 yeah yeah so so I guess it's really you know you're looking at the figures and stuff if we what do we want to do um I'm the zero based budget you know building it that way is the way that they ask for it to be done so one of them was 1,080 and the other way was 1150 do I have that correct yeah is that factoring in the $35 cut no that's so the $35 cut our budget ends up I didn't don't know if I even brought that oh so if we do that our budget ends up at 1365 because it's 1400 minus the 35 the 2.5% and I started working on that that way and but then I'm like you know rest assured that's going to be the starting point and that more than likely budgets more budgets will be asked to be cut because some I'm not even thinking of any Nam but some departments might not P pull their weight right I think that it's going to have to be yeah oh yeah how about ask for 1100 which is right between the two that you gave me yeah the two that you said and then you know when you come to the end of the year if you if there's an emergency and you have to have more you know you can get it right so the whole negotiation they ask for a little more than what you think you exactly they'll think you wonderful because you're only asking for 1100 and up 13 and change can imagine their money Comm well we're a small Department with a small so that's a big that's a big deal yeah it is yeah so if we're saying 1100 yep um so we cut 50 we could cut 50 at that I I put no I think my figures are right here so if we say um professional and Technical would be 470 someone do the math with a calculator for me or paper and Pen Irene um 470 Communications would be 80 other supplies would be 400 and travel would be 150 1,100 even okay because I think that I will have to go in and rppa you can come too when we go talk to the Town Administrator about the budget and then present you know also go to the finance committee you know I mean we've made here a clear effort to I think so do the zero base and also to say we needed to make some changes we did Big Time yeah so all right so on this one so 470 you need to vote on that an official vote yeah we need an official vote I just this will be 400 and I also am going to need you to sign this and that would be 150 I should have done it in P but that's okay all right um I will entertain a motion for our FY 26 budget to be $1,100 to be um submitted to the Town Administrator Board of selectman and finance committee so moved is there a second second all in any other discussion which who said first she said first any other discussion okay all in favor I I oppos extensions that passes unan little unanimously and I just need everyone to sign this and the second I made the Z out was like I'm going to hear it in three two one on the dot was like oh God wait all right moving on um I'm finished business Zach preserving memories yep uh so I talked to Cameron's mother Y and um she said I guess so he started a new job yeah um aside from doing the homeschooling um she said so it's harder I I have the M some right here it's harder for them to do um too far in advance because his weeks vary from week to week so I know the cable said it's better for them to give them dates as opposed to like that that them saying every Thursday is free so I reached out to Cable anyway and said I do have one person who said it is better for them to know so I'm waiting to hear back from cable um and then uh I I'll will let Cam's Mother Caroline know um what dates were were good for them and then in terms of other names so these were names that have been Gathering during meetings I added Morin Dua today um the eagleson who are my neighbors Mna Richmond trip uh Jeff um Ernie Atwood Dorothy Parry are there any other names and then if you guys feel better giving their information to me off meeting time so it's not public G only no Gary he came to the presentation you gave do I have the Ed only I was like Gary He's not that old is that's his son and there were there was a couple husband and a wife that you introduced me to oh um CH Lynch who Chris Lynch oh okay um [Applause] might also want to talk to Lenny Reed e EG y um and these I do guys have email addresses Facebook I Know M is on Facebook I mean I Facebook on there's contact information y um I think I have I have Chris lynches from that meeting okay see Moren on Fridays okay and um do we have Dorothy Perry's no we do everything through her nephew her NE yeah do do we have his number do you have his number still or email or anything okay the E I'll ask cuz I'm neighbors with them okay so that would remain do you know how I can contact a l l i e okay how's he doing do you think he yeah even if we don't do the whole studio thing and do it just from at your home you do it that way obviously everyone for record if anyone talks to anybody about this you know pass the message along we don't have to do the studio if there's someone who prefer to do it in their own home that's totally fine um or if they want to do the studio again just The Voice aspect that's fine I don't want feel like well I would do it but I don't want to or I can't get down to the to cable to do it that way I wouldn't want that to be a it's certainly not an but okay and then so uh Ernie um Ernie's up in New Hampshire but I have his contact stuff okay um Richmond trip yeah okay see I don't know yeah and Lenny and Ed contact um I can find EDS okay I can get I I'll I'll work on those two and Ernie was that one ER yeah yeah he rarely comes down but he he knows a lot too much and and some I don't know how he is with the computer but I could even email questions yeah yeah you it wouldn't or or over Zoom yeah or or FaceTime or Skype however it's you so it doesn't have to be in person doesn't have to be talk to okay cool okay all right not to AG him but how old is your dad CH 66 okay so he's sort of kind of young but I mean he's he lived there all of his life on Elm um yes basically yeah well but he is sort of young you know I know people that are older yeah he it would it would have to be in in the house though he can't well I could I can get him out he'll spring him you saw him as if he's stuck I get I can kidnap him and bring him out he might enjoy doing something like actually enjoy it don't anyone coming from that area you know broad Co grew up on that farm yeah yeah yeah yeah and if he's talking about his mom and his dad and stuff and when he was a kid I think that that would be and the auns and stuff yeah and it's the one time where someone who likes to talk about their family we want you to talk about your family all the stories that you you know holidays that wants to hear we actually want to hear sh oh I think about was a great child she's gonna give him cues well back he goes get back in the car done so the whole thing not using this to publicly slander someone it's like truth about that in sound clirt comes out what was sh like remember those nomination papers that turn back at 11 the story surpris and you'll be part of History that's Gary so with this the studio yeah would it be best to say to them you want to reserve a certain number of dates and then just fill in the people who could who is available it didn't sound like that from the from the cable's point of view it sounded more like you tell us when you want and we're good to go but it's also like but next week cam might be free on Monday night but the week after that but he might not have a Monday night free for the next month after that right so like I don't want to say hey Mondays are good and and the biggest thing I asked cable was how short notice well sorry how far in advance do you need can I if Cam's mom text me right now and says we can do next Monday can cable say no no no no we need at least two weeks or is cable going to say I can get you in tomorrow if I if you can do tomorrow that's kind of what I'm waiting on to hear back from cable because it's I the last thing I want to do is tell you know Mna we're gonna do it Tuesday's our only option she well I can't do Tuesday can may do Thursday cable can you do Thursday well I can do next Thursday and then M goes I can't do next you know mean that's the thing see I mean even even in that ficti the fictitious example I just saw of I'm already like my head's already spitting and I made that up just now so like that's what I'm trying to get from cable is I ideally in perfect world cable can say just let us know and they can if they I rather give i' rather have them give me a few options so when I go before someone I can I can tell them those this is what we're looking at you're gonna be playing telephone exactly that's what I'm really really and then especially where I'm talking between cable and then the interviewer interview it was just me and one person playing phone Ty that's nature the beast but when it's evolving two people playing okay well they they said no they said maybe wait because you took too long you back to me now they're booked so when are you free again yeah that's a great idea that's that's the only thing so like I it would almost be great if they could hey here's our calendar right now for the next month yes and let me P let me con going fill these blocks in right now that's that's what I'm hoping for from them I don't know your availability aren't you pretty much dayto day you don't know what you're doing I mean that you know professionally no no no no no wasn't a slap no so with with sub with substitute teaching it's pretty much after 4 o'clock during the week unless your availability is after four o00 un unless I'm at a middle school and I'm out by by two but you don't know that going into right right but I mean generally speaking it's you know late afternoon and we weekend I'm wide open so um that's what's the Bea beaut of my skills I don't have a N9 to-5 job but because I have a school day job it's pretty yeah now if there was some person who was like you know you know early afternoons during the week worked best for me I would just not take a sub job that day or I would do or do I do a morning only kind of thing so yeah okay well I think we're making progress baby steps yeah yeah at least I was surprised how the fact that C said they're rare you go oh they are yeah because I know they yeah I do in the veterans thing with Ray heg and Mna then I think that's pretty much ready to go yeah in the studio yeah yeah since we were using cam as our quotequote dry dry run um and I don't mean that you know way way sound possibly but is there someone we would like to do first I mean then it's a matter of like well if I had four lined up and what we want to do first is waiting he back I want to wait until I just didn't know if there was someone that you guys felt as who the most eager to do it I would think it would just be great to have one under our belts at this point I wouldn't be fussy as who should be the first one I could you know Mna probably would be a good one to start with too and we know she's will we know she's no problem doing I'm sure she would want do on camera I think she'll on camera you know I mean she had ex exactly that's me at least like it's it' be easier to do someone she looking for a success show she asked me said no but when he has Z I call you wait for real you gave her no okay I just want to be ready for this call come my way but she would be right right yeah I think we get you know she would be a good one to do a first one too now that now that I know that I of the names that I have before me aside from the Eagles who are my neighbors I know More's on Facebook so I can message her today or tomorrow tomorrow I and her I know she's one like well how often does she go I know she's on Facebook often enough that I won't be like oh maybe she'll see it you know like some people don't go on Facebook that often I I don't go on unless I get a message saying that someone messaged me through Facebook but I know was on send you contact information later okay I don't think I have I don't have her number or even her or even an email address town or personal I only have her contact through Facebook which I know she goes on post on with each other yes all right good okay now walking to our pamphlet did you find anything for the Spooner house that was the only thing that I think back in November you had asked glad I sent you something you had asked Mna and you had heard back and then um the last Emil had from you was that you were going to the commission sorry you you were going to theal society and you said you would check when you got there oh I think I did get photos right I think I did um well let me let me check on that I'll check on that and get back to you okay hey by Hi how are you I'm good how are you good trouble are we having a Christmas party and nobody told me yeah all right bring the gifts let's go you guys have a meeting here yeah at 7 surprise okay we better hurry up hurry up talk fast okay so other than that the only picture I was waiting on we kind of kind of exhausted the search for the yach club stuff know we got we got um I took care of the Ed putting taking out legal thing putting what time said other than that just waiting on the spoon picture all right I'll look I either take a picture of it to okay um oh historical markers any well I did send an email to Jacklin bimer maamer who is ucational uh coordinator at BP and I introduced myself and I asked I asked I basically sent a proposal would the school be willing to sponsor D historical markers you know yeah so I workot that email like a few days ago she hasn't responded so I she vacation or anything but no respons yet did you look at that um science tomorrow and Norton no I had a chance okay them so I think I think I'm I'm going to abandon the one in seeon Fast Signs yeah when you just said in Norton where'd you get that name from swans okay because I'm friendly now with the historical Commission in Swansea and their marker looks more like either brass or it's aluminum to look like brass it's really impressive nothing like she suggested the place in Norton call get quote we're not talking apples and apples here so I have no idea how much they charge for Mar her markers were like $6 700 no no but when you seen it it was like that out of Washington DC I mean it was really those it was big and you can get them in bronze or you can get an aluminum that they put a finish on so it looks like bronze but it still we talking a lot more money than we paid and I said that I were either wood or PVC yeah and so she said we'll give those people a call okay and she had a who did you talk to in Swansea I went on their website their minut I met with Cheryl yeah oh okay okay that's a good contact um but I went looking and I also looked at Westport and I emailed to Westport um because they had markers too when they had a marker program they had an email for it I emailed them for information but they haven't gotten back to me okay so okay um but we'll keep working on that so the um Mount Finishing Company um the board of selectman approv the contract to Stacy on January 8th and she's indicated that the work will begin in the spring um we have the West Tian survey she has eight of the forms done um sh made copies for us so that we can review them are they we also have eight y that's a s minute chair yoga for the day wasn't that good that was fantastic work these um take some time and read them over review them and she still has to plan a site visit to the poor farm um had trouble coordinating um with that over the holidays December and just the double check information on the other site so any edit changes that you see in this just let me know and I can send them along to her so um CPC I don't have anything to report there was no December meeting but they'll be meeting on Thursday the library building committee we met on January 9th went along so the BP students are still working on the electrical um 's working on getting painters for the inside of the building the handrails for the ramps or will be installed the hbac bid specs are complete and they'll be in the central register this week um it's possible that the HVAC will be be completed by May which is a major major part of it um Mark pnik has um a quote under for under 10,000 for the technology for the program room it's going to present this to the Friends of the library because they've donated funds towards us they were going to buy a Smartboard which would include the some of the technology for using the Smartboard in that room and then for your information ten reinstein from Chronicle will be speaking February 27th here and I think he's talking about baseball something or other but he's an interesting speaker I saw him speak about General stores in Freetown a couple of years ago well the fires in Fall River are is that the fire no that's the lady the fires in Fall River in January January January yeah we're in January I think it's 23rd yeah the 23rd yeah that'll be here that'll be here and that's the same lady that um Lizzy bord Lizzy bordon yeah and that's the same night that old col is doing a thing on Reed and Barton yeah but re and Barton SCH is a wait list I saw today there you go so you ain't getting in Reading Buton I saw that try Irene I was no I was coming and I was dragging the husband okay um America's 250th anniversary committee met on Monday basically we're working on fundraising encampment and the other activities and we had discussion about the brochure booklet for the old Bristol path um we had said that we would put money towards that we never discussed how much really but whatever I guess we can afford from our budget is what we'll use and some of that also you know can um pay for by sponsors when you put ads in the back or whatever um our meeting dates [Applause] for 2025 so we have I think I emailed you all or I'm going to email you all told February 11 you were away you told us last month yes so um that's our next scheduled meeting date now you can certainly meet without me um or we can cancel it and just meet in March or if something it we can move it yeah yeah why not okay um I'll see what I don't think we anything too pressing that we need to meet no we may have something from let's do it on Valentine's Day you um I think can [Laughter] bring I already have a valentine yes mentioned her Z do you meet on Tuesdays for oh well don't you just want to add seven huh don't you just want to add seven or take away seven from the 11th either make it the 4th or the 18th February 4th Wednesday it would be a that's a Tuesday I assume yeah 11th is a Tuesday so want to make it the 4th want to make it the 18th which one do you want to do pick one I don't care as long as it's not any frame why don't we say either one either the 4th or the 18th and let me see what's available okay and then I'll it it won't be zoning so we're fine okay um November 18th is in 2025 is because of um Veterans Day but we'll be meeting at Prime Time the location will change that's the only I was going to say I I know for for zoning when we were looking at our meeting schedules the way as it was this year two of our meetings fall within holiday weeks so we had to change right when we're meeting so but but but we're changing for us we're changing this space not the day okay I know I'm asking you're saying we'll be meeting in prime time that day on the 18th okay yes okay we got Commission huh a minute talk about up I'm trying sorry sorry sorry sorry um the mass history Alliance conference is June 2nd their theme is connecting and caring through history um this is the one that's at UMass Amherst it's from 8:30 to 5 it's like plus hour drive we figured out the mileage but um they haven't come through with any kind of their speakers or anything yet they're just doing a call for speakers um so we'll have more information on that if we want to consider going to that um for correspondence we just had this card from the mass historical Commission on the Massachusetts preservation project fund so it's a grant but it's only for houses that are um properties that are owned by um municipalities or nonprofit organizations um that are on the state Register of historic places so we those na so unforunately that's that is there anything else no entertain a motion to adjourn some moved second second in favor speak