All right. Um, this is the Dyon Historical Commission meeting on May 13th. It's a Zoom meeting, hybrid meeting at Old Town Hall and Zoom. Zoom meeting will be recorded and will be shown on Dyton's uh YouTube channel. The
listing of matters are those reasonably anticipated by the chair, which may be discussed at the meeting. Not all items listed may in fact be discussed and other items not listed may also be brought up for discussion to the extent permitted by law. And I'm calling this
meeting to order. 602. All right. And let's stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Um John, if you want, you can come right up. Bring your chair up. Pat, what two items did you want them
for? I want besides the poor for to take out of order the um walking tour brochures and the poor farm. The poor farm. Okay. I will make the motion that we take the item agendas review discuss and act
walking tour pamphlet of Dutton's national uh histo districts and the item 10 historical sharing for farm out of order. Is there a second? Second. All in favor? Hi. Okay. So, we'll talk
about the brochures I made. These are in black and white. These are still can be changed. So, these are black and white. Oh, the one that's not on the black and white. I'll have to show you. And then I mine I printed it
all color. Yeah. So, background for the background. So, that's what they look like in the background. Just one of the the back one just one of the old Dyon maps that I just right on.
No. So if you were to print So they would go like like this. Yeah. And then they fold in thirds. Mhm. So I did it so when you fold it the old
customs house would be the inside fold. I think I already Okay. So you'd want it so you have this like that and then that like that.
So basically this is the front. This is the back mi. So back middle right here. Which one do you want to talk about first? Um, I guess primarily I don't you talking about before with the
Don Wars was that how I found on the very first thing that you emailed me. Yeah. the list of the warps which actually works because seeing it now in this form there's so everything looks scaled down right now
because on the template that I I found like a printing brochure template where it has the bleed lines of like where there where the press is going to like cut it stuff like that so this won't be like like why isn't it bigger because like the lines were actually like around
here so it'll be bigger when we get it Um, but I had a lot of room to play with literally because we didn't have a picture, a old historic picture of the Darius Perry house. Um, so I can very
easily condense the font. The color version is probably better just because you can see more of like the this elicit there's more negative space on our version because we don't have the color where we can see like the the has the 3D of the houses and stuff like that. So
there's it's not like ours a lot of empty space. There's not as much empty space. Oh, I see where you do you know what I mean? So I can easily put the I was thinking having just one panel for the warfs, but because the customs house has the most
writing if I move the customs house picture and that writing to the inside of the brochure, that's going to be way too crowded. Okay? Do you know what I mean? So, um, not that we have a lot of information on the warps, but like, um,
it'd be enough that I could just really the warps really should be included in that because it's the warps. I know. So, basically, the Pat and I had like a lot of back and forth of like different documents where she added stuff or edited stuff. The original document that she sent me a while ago had an outline of the warfs. The other ones didn't
because she wasn't adding on to that. So, then I today I was like, "Oh, why do I have this document?" like, "Oh god, the warf." So, like I told Pat or I got here like that's the only thing that I would just I would definitely want to add for that one. Okay. Um
do you feel a need So on the back middle panel it's the same for both brochures to take notice that the town administrator put this we put the town seal and the Bay Coast Bank. Mhm. Um, do Pat do you feel like I need to if
necessary credit anyone for the photos or were they all ones that you were just um like if you got if you got it from somebody whether it's a a family friend or someone from town I would want to avoid any like oh
use my photo but didn't get a thank you or a shout out or a credit obviously like if they gave it to us so clearly they letting us use it but I was like, "Do I include a special thank you in the back?" And I was like, "No." But then I was like, "Well, if I'm crediting like the pictures were all from some of them are from the
bicesentennial booklet. I don't need to credit anybody, but did you get any pictures from anybody specifically?" Well, the historical society, most of these are from the 1912 by that's from Centennial. Y I'm looking at the the Forum House. Are you John Hathaway
House? So I think that's it is um so the yacht club picture that's a postcard. That's a postcard that's public domain. The other two are from like you said the brochure. The the back one that's one that you sent me later on. I don't know who you got that from. If you That's a
postcard too. Okay. That's a postcard. So then really it's the uh Spooner house picture and the picture from the water. Those are ones that we were waiting on. So those are from the historical society. So they should be credited there.
Um so I can either a squeeze that in right beneath the picture or Okay. Yeah. Okay. And so uh sorry. So which ones? That was a spooner house in the water view. Yeah. In that one. The Eddie house. That's a postcard. Uh correct.
Yep. That one was Yeah, because you just gave me a better quality version of the one that was in the bsentennial. And then this one that was also from the vice certain it was look real quick on my phone to see a
better better I'm not sure that yeah it might be I think we should just you know let's put it this way any of the other ones that I included if you didn't give them to me I found them online or from documents that I found online so if you didn't give it to me then no one else
gave them to me like who Yeah, unless you feel definitely that one was from the historical society. The spooner house and the one the boat in the water was I'm sorry, the Spooner house. The boat in the water and what else? That one and that one. Oh, just those two. Okay. So, one thing here like I know we
talked we'll be doing a walking tour eventually. Um I don't know but I think also if we print these up and leave them say at town hall or the library so people can do a selfwalking tour um you know where it says please take
notice just um just say that these are um these are private properties please stay off Oh take out the like visiting today. Yeah. Oh okay. I forgot that it's your Okay. So if anyone is going to do it on their own. Okay. Right. Yep. Like just
bleeding. Okay. Does anyone else have anything? You can take them and take a look at them. Everything has spacing. Spacing. Everything has centered. Yeah, I think the spacing is because it's a PDF and it's not, you know, in order to send it
to me. So, basically, I did it on PowerPoint and then I just saved that as a PDF and it to her that way. Okay. Yeah. Because the only thing is actually do that. It like cuts off. So I think what I would do is that when we're ready to bring this to whatever printer we'll
use either if you and I can maybe go together to the place and I can I'll even bring my laptop and say what can like the last thing I want to do is email it to them and they go hey I gave you what you wanted me to do. We're like crap right? So if I bring my computer like I know but they might be able to
center this right or tell me or tell me how to like format it for them because there are times I brought stuff to Staples and I have just done I'm like uh oh and there are times that like Staples will actually have my computer and they'll be like no do this do this send to me that way that will work. Yeah. So when we do that if we can go together with my laptop that's so we can avoid
any kind of potential um so we're using staples. Oh no I was just using an example of like what in the past I printed because we have a town account there. Oh, they're really good. I use them all the time. We can go in and talk to Mike and um you know, he'll
tell us what we need to do or not do. You know, how many are we going to print out? Well, that was one of the questions. We have um I mean, if when we schedule, if you have an RSVP, that will determine the number that day. Well, yeah. And
also tell them we have x amount of dollars to spend. I think it's I think it was 350. Yeah, it's three $300. And it's not the color is not like see like this is like a dark blue font. I can put that in black to reduce the color ink. So
whatever 300. So really the only color color would I guess technically be these pictures because they were sepia. So that's going to be like a color that's not gray. Um, the back is like a like a a transparent version of that map. There
is some color there. I tried doing it completely in black and white and it just didn't look as good. No. So, and the seal and then the Bay Co. It's not a ton of color. So, I don't feel like it's going to cost us a not a lot of color ink per different colors. You know what
I mean? So, like I don't think it'll be super The color stands out. So when people someone's walking by, they're going to see that. You know what's the tentative date of the walk? We don't have a tentative. I have no idea. Are you thinking like like fall or you thinking like summer? That's all that's
all I'm looking for. Probably at this point fall cuz to do anything in the summer would be But you were thinking of putting these out beforehand. That's a Yeah, I wonder what's the sense in them. No, I mean after. Oh, after is wonderful.
go on it and you see it and you go, "Oh, that's Oh, let me take that." That's Well, no, I misunderstood you. I thought you said you wanted to put them out ahead of time. Oh, no. Be the point of them not on our walk. They'll take their own walk. Yes. I would say fall because you know that you're not dealing with
all of the summer stuff. Vacations, right? It's not going to be 95 degrees and Yeah. Incredibly hot or or or we have it for a Saturday afternoon and it's thunderstorming because it was so hot during that day. Of course you have in the fall. It could still rain. It's rained every weekend so far. So that's
true. Um anything else? All right. How um Yeah. I'd like to suggest to center our names. Well, yeah. You want to send like Yeah, justified center. Okay. Yeah, I see what you mean. Instead
of Yeah. So, I had it like that. The the the only thing is because you have vice person and clerk, yours is like way longer than the rest of them. So would you want just just vice chair? Just vice chair. Okay. So, there was a when we were going
over this before, there was a uh looking at the warps one on the we were talking about last time that Oh, sorry. The corn shipyard B O W N in
Haway. Should it be Brown or is BN the name? I believe it's Bowen. BN BN because Okay, so so in the word document it came up as BN. So I kept it because I was like, well maybe that was a name that I was like h
I think you're Yeah, I think you're right, Pat. The biggest edit I did was I think like the first shots we had, I had them numbered like you know like like site one, site two. I just took away the numbers completely because yep you don't need even if we decide that they like oh what's going on in this order it's like
well I put that was number one and um we have the address there so we don't need them I took I got the numbers idea from the delivery union one but this 30 sites on that tour so you know that makes more sense for those to be numbered but that's ben okay
the Only other thing I would I would wonder because 2120 is coming down. If we I know I thought that too, Pat. Um when is the demolition? Yeah. When's it coming? Oh, it's coming down. Yeah, I
know that um the the permits been issued and I it's on the agenda for the conservation commission for Thursday. There's Why? Cuz it's near
the water. Oh, okay. Oh, that meant to try to not do it like not tear it down. So, I remember when I came up for zoning like, you know, like I want say to Jim was like, "It has to come down even if these people don't do anything with the law." So, I was like, "We don't have a choice." Oh, okay. Cuz like that the thing is that people were like, "Oh,
let's try to save let's try to save it. Why are we going to tear down this old house?" And Jim was like, "It's condemned. It's coming down. Even if these people don't do anything with this lot, the building's coming down." house. It wasn't like for the people who will just read the f read the overview like oh zoning said tear down this building
and put down a new house but it was coming down anyway. It wasn't once it was condemned that also takes it out of the demolition delay bylaw. Okay. You know so and you going to say anything at all? Um I I actually talked to one of
the owners one day. I was um downstairs and I heard he came in and I heard him talking. So I was eavesdropping. So I introduced myself. Owners. Owners of what? 2120. Oh, okay. And I asked him, you know, if there was
anything, you know, if he could put it aside for us. And he said it's been pretty well stripped, you know, um because it was empty for so long and people were just taking stuff. Save it. It was one of the few cases where all the all the abutters were actually for
it because they were like it's it's disgusting the way it looks. It's causing water and they they were like they didn't want to see it come down historically but they were like it's going to clean up the lot. It's going to clean up the neighborhood of the new house look pretty when he's they're designing a house to go in there that
they are cons consider historic district. So they for the zoning they brought in I think it's a different owner now. Really? Who is it? No longer I don't remember who it was before but they showed us schematics of the drawings. Now there weren't
architectural stamp plans. It was like this is what our aim is to look like to keep it with the neighborhood and it looked like it fit. You know what I mean? Yeah it stories high. Yeah. So no it had to be higher because they had to have garages go underneath. garage doors
had to go the garages have to be in the home floor because of the flood like that that was it's like the other colonial old homes the garages yeah that's what I thought too but but they understood that cuz like everyone's like but that's not no like that but we have to now but they did but again the
new owner though I don't know I haven't seen I zoning won't zoning won't see those plans so I I don't know if we should say you know um 2120 because that street number is not going to change if it should be this site
was the John kind like the sign that's over here by the that's the town hall when it came down there's still a sign there for that house yeah we made that sign the James house it yeah I'm not site of you know what I mean site of 2120 original site
something like that because the history of the part of the land is the same building's not there. But it's not it's not like that. Yes, the house is gone, but it's not like the history of that area is gone, too. Right. So, I know it's not the same, but I don't know. He
just say site of the John Haway house former former. I mean, I can look at all the wordings of other ones come down. Yeah. Because you know people if we're doing a walking tour and then there it is. The
house is missing. Yeah. Yeah. Wait a second. It's really It's really there. It's really there. You just No. No. It's there. It's there. Just imagine it. Wait. You You guys don't see You guys don't see it.
It's my Harry Potter one. All right, that's one thought I had. Okay. All right. So, if you know, anyone have anything else? Oh. Um, Darius, there's absolutely no surp I
mean I've looked for Darius Perry and I know that was I mean J Spooner is there a dot after J dot where Harry Jer pointing
Oh, down here. Yeah, because Oh, yeah. It should be a period. Yep. Since you're You'll have to go through it with a fine tooth comb because So, Pat, just you know, the only editing that I did to your text was if you see
the and sign was just for the make it all fit evenly. Like when I had the word and like it would like stick on like add like two more words to one line and just or like it wouldn't justify properly. Um, other than that, there was no editing that I
did of any kind. John, do you have anything that you want to ask? I'm going to drive by 2120 before. Go tonight. Go tonight. No, this is very nice. Thank you. So, this is our contribution
to the anniversary. We were going to do the old Bristol path, but this is fine because this is done. I thought we talked about you already did all the work, so why not use it as your Yeah, we Yeah, because we can kind of tie in. Well, Somerset was
looking at a trolley. A trolley tour. That's what we're thinking about. Walking your walking. Well, they used to do for the much bigger than ours. do walking tours of the village. Mhm. And we actually I think have a pamphlet. We
actually they did a um tour though I had not knocked out all the historic sites for the bsentennial. So I was thinking that we'll kind of steal that to some degree and pick out
the more important places to visit. So, this is all in the works or this is in my head. I've got a starting to form a committee. So, we're way behind on this. Society is doing a reenactment with the society.
No, the 250th the 250th anniversary committee is planning a living in um history encampment and that'll include a battle reenactment by the Rahobitth um Minutemen. Okay. So, that's going to be
in the fall of 2026. Okay. Um, location is still being determined. Um, the his our historical society is probably going to do a um house and garden tour. Um, we also have Ezra Styles,
right? Um, the play the play too. The play. Oh, the play. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to have the a play. um you know so we do have some activities. The reading of the declaration will be on July 4th this year. Okay. And uh we hope to have
um some people be standing at the graves of the Revolutionary War soldiers in the Unitarian Cemetery just saying like you know who they are and a little bio you know of them and the people portraying them or just like a tour guy kind of
just like a I you know I am like Elana Andrews and I was born in dressed up in period costume. Yeah. Come on. Wouldn't that be I was that's I was I was you can't wear what I'm wearing. I was born I think they'll have something on. You
know I'm not in charge of that. So yeah Christine, right? Christine's in charge of that. Oh Karen. So um I'm I'm sure she'll have them in costume. Yeah. We've been trying to get the historical commission involved in this and Oh yeah. As far as too busy or no
interest? I think there's interest, but I think a lot of our members are older and it's kind of difficult to get much of a commitment from them. And some of them, well, we've got one guy that's
working on the cemetery project and he is spending a lot of time doing that. So, he gets a pass. Um, but that I was hoping the historical commission could work with the historical society to some degree, especially since I'm on it, my
wife's on it. Yeah. What have you guys done before when you the when you guys had those walking tours? Who organized those back then? That was um Diane Goodwin who um has resigned and she's moved on. She we always did those with
the spirit of Somerset. Oh, okay. And years ago, before I was even involved, the Palmer Cemetery is the historic cemetery. Um, Holland is buried there, Clifford Holland. A number of the sea captains are buried there.
And they did a cemetery tour where people were dressed up in period costume. And there's a whole script that we still have. Um, and the person that was the driving force behind that had left, but she's coming back. So, but was
she commission or society or She was with the society. With the society. Yeah. And then she left and she's coming back. She's my Mrs. Claus. Okay. Oh, yep. Yeah. So, anyway, and what I'm
going to do is I've got your email. Um, Pam Pat. Pat. Pat. This is mine. That's yours. Okay. You want mine? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's Pat. Okay. Yeah. um with with this
I just I don't know if anybody uh is has checked out Gaylord Archival. Yeah. But they have a lot they just did a whole thing on doing things such as this or and I will send somebody the link if you
know I'll Yeah. Yeah. If you want to send to Patent Impact and send it to me. Yeah, that's what I'll do. And it it's interesting because I had worked up some flyer and they like they would say that this is an orphan or whatever. I know. I
thought that too when I was and and I didn't even know that that was an issue. So they have like um it's like a little one-hour seminar about like desktop publishing kind of thing. About what do they call graphic design or whatever and it's very basic. Yeah. I mean I have I
have no training in it. I just kind of know how to do it back when I was in school. But I mean, whatever that is, I will definitely. But I think this looks quite nice to tell you the truth. Yeah, it's good. Color looks better like once I put, you know, once everything's centered and I think it's going to Yeah.
Yeah. I'll email Pat once obviously the It will be it will color or color. Yeah, she had So she had the exact I printed it at home so it came out color like the So like the backgrounds like the old So when I printed it at town hall they come
out black and white. Pat, now that I'm seeing it in color, do you think I could even make the background a little less transparent to make it like do you think it's too like the way you have it is the way that it's going to
look? I think it looks good. That white. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Do Do you think But what if you would you consider an off-white paper? Like a cream? You could. Yeah. Just to make it This looks too modern. This looks too plain cuz it's white. Yeah. Even that's
that's why that's what I was trying to That's what I was trying to do with I was trying to do with that now is convey it. But like now I'm seeing it in person. I'm like, it still looks like I just should we also include the contact info for the key just in
case contact I don't see I mean on the back I certain like I mean once I take out the line that we will be visiting today because we don't need that because that's going to be for people doing it after that is going to
free up some space so if you feel need to do that I also our names and stuff on the back on the front. I can move that to the back if you feel like you'd rather have Okay. If you feel like you'd rather have a picture on the back, I already have historical commission on the top. Just not our names. Yeah. I
think our name the board should be on there. It was just on the front cuz I was like, well, I don't want to put the town seal on the front because that's too if we had our own seal logo, I would have done that, right? But I was like, I don't want the town seal on the front because that could be for anything involved in the town. Mhm. So I was like
I don't really have a good picture of like like what house I put there. So that's why I just put that there for to space. So if you feel like I should move our names and everything to the back instead. I can do that and maybe put pictures from the
bird's eye map there instead. Or I I don't I don't know. It's actually Yeah, I I think the names probably should go on the back. I don't know if we would make the town seal a little smaller. Yeah, definitely. Make those those two icons a little smaller. And then um of
course this will be shorter so our name should be able to fit in. So really the quickest way to contact us is probably through our Facebook page. Uh we have our own web website through the Oh, or through our website. Yeah. Through the town. I prefer that instead of if
someone goes to fill in like that like I filled out things on like town like sometimes on a town site it has a link to the town clerk's email address sometimes it's just like a blank email form you just fill in and you don't know if anyone ever gets it right is ours like will actually go to past email or
just go to some generic to go up to um I don't know where it goes right now do you have a chair email address no I keep asking for one and it's me too at least Um, so we could just put the town, you
know, our website page there and town of D website. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want and and the Facebook or just do you want the town one? Just the town. Just the town. Yeah. Yeah. How often do you someone monitor or update or ma maintain the
Facebook page? The fa rapid does the Facebook page only when you have something pretty much. Yes. Okay. Okay. And the web page is And Leanne can always add something to the Dyon Facebook page as well like there because she knows that and I think she also does
the web page. She does the web page as well. Oh well I think like like I don't want to put like check out the Facebook page for circle mission and then someone goes on it's like nothing. 2019 2019. Cool. Yeah. Maybe not. That's why I was like if I if you wanted both I put both. But
if you feel like Yeah. Yeah. Nah. That's good. Okay. All right. So, so Pat, if you want, aside from going together to the printing press, maybe when I work on the edits, if you want to do it together in
person so we can look at it together and then go from there, or do you want me to edit them and then bring it back before the board? I think if we do final edits and does everyone want to see like the final draft,
it'll we'll have the final vote on vote on the final draft as opposed to voting right now pending. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we can work on the edits and then bring it to the board and um it could be simple then and then we go ahead and and print
it. Okay. Maybe by then we'll have a new member to put on Yeah, maybe. Yeah, that's one thing that like I have to take someone's name off like before like
Oh, oops. Maybe if we put on it to see if you remember like uh 2025, you know, like a date of publication just so we know how old it is. So when it turns 100 years old and people are still using it,
put in put in the time capsule. So, not the day of the walking tour, just the year in general. Yeah. Just tempt published. Yeah. Pub. Yeah. The year it was published. Published, printed, published, created,
first draft. And it has to be It has to be in Roman numerals. Roman numerals that nobody can read. Nobody can read. And then we put our names in like Shakespearean script or something.
No, exactly. I'm gonna finally Donna Summer respond. Put your name in there. All right. So, I hope you found that helpful, John. Very very It's very nice. And I didn't mean to criticize. No,
I know. We're sure to remember. We might hit you up for that. It's because I just learned that a week ago. It's helpful having someone who has done these with a much bigger scale. I mean, you have how many sites and summers? We have four. We
we have a lot. Yeah, I know. I I remember seeing your brochures and being like I've seen Rahobus and I'm like damn these are booklets. They're awesome, but I'm like I'm just out of jealousy, not out of This is also something that people
can take and digest, right? And and you can do this and say, "I'm not like committing a huge amount of time to this." Some of those other ones may be too much information, right? It's it's if you want it, it's there. But, right,
the way I looked at it, it's enough information. If someone's truly interested, they can go searching for more or ask more questions, right? and they can come here and ask or go to the historical society to find out more information. This will get people
interested potentially. My biggest pet peeve of things like this like when I go anywhere is like that was a tour I could have just googled things as I walked like I didn't learn anything new from this tour or from this like I always want so like what if we do something like this like it's like oh I wouldn't have known that if I didn't read this or
if I didn't go there but some like that's the Mona Lisa like I need a tour guy to tell me that's where the Mona Lisa is or whatever it is you know you know what I mean? So, so okay. So, when are the dates who aren't I already tried that raffle? That was 10 minutes ago. I said we doing it. Remember
specifically though. She didn't she didn't answer me. I mean, probably not what date weekend. Yes. I don't know what my July looks like. What does your July look like? Mine
looks really bad. Okay. Okay. Lots of probably I don't know. I have to look at my calendar. So maybe in conjunction with the opening of the library. Rafa, we're going to do July 3rd. Okay. So you go there on July 3rd and wait for us. We'll be there. We could um in conjunction with the opening of the
library in September, right? Opening September. And it's right in that area. That's a good idea, actually. Yeah. That whole area right there. Yeah. So they Is there a date for that? No, I mean I know it's I know it's September. Is that the building they're working on down there?
Yes. I think it's red memorial hall. It's the shingled shingled building. Okay. And that's going to be the new library. So after the tour, we can assemble in the library and have a little tea or we
could either meet at the library and walk down and Yeah, definitely could do that. Nice thinking, R. Reaching out to the public with food. Okay. Anyone have anything else for I mean, because we're not voting on it
tonight, if anyone thinks of anything, they can always email you or you. Yeah. Or Yeah. and did or you or or find anything different that or or take home look at it and realize that something's wrong or typed wrong or worry wrong or something, right? And then we'll just
have we'll vote on the final draft on in June. Okay. Okie dokie. Okay. So, next is our poor farm. Yeah. John's wife happens to be doing research
for the poor farm for Somerset. When I went to the Berkeley Historical Society today, their poor farm is still standing. It's a private residence and the woman inside has done very little to update it. It's on Bay View. So, I mean,
every town had its poor farm, but I mean, Oz has, you know, been torn down and whatever. And Berkeley's still got their standard and people are living in it. Wow. When you say little to update it, do you mean in that in a good way or bad way? She said she hasn't done any
modernization of the inside of the home. I feel like it's like decrepit. How neat would that be to go in there? Are they actually in there? Well, well, were that's not fair. But to see what 25 then it's not still a function. It's not still a functioning port farm. I don't think it's allowed to do those, but it
would be cool to see what it would actually look like. It what it looked like back whenever. Yeah, baby. you have. Okay. So anyway, that's the tiein for poor farms. So So where's Somerset's poor farm is
or it was where the middle school and south school is on Reed Street. Yeah. And there's also a cemetery somewhere in there that
we haven't really been able to locate. Um, town historian Maryanne McDonald thinks she knows where it is, but we don't know for certain where it is. And obviously buildings haven't been built on them. So, when you said about the cemetery, the lady who lives at the poor
farm in Bay View, you just reminded me of something. Her and her husband were cleaning up the yard and they were digging around things making it look attractive near the water and they came across human bones and they said, "Oh, let's put this back." So there's no headstones, there's no anything, you know, and Lord knows how old they were,
but her and the husband, I don't know if they had heavy equipment or they're doing it by hand, but they came across that's my fear. Well, that's not a fear that I
Yes. How do we know it wasn't from two weeks ago? Interesting. But that's down at neck off baby places are not. Yeah. Um, the information I'm going to talk to you today about came from Helen Lane's history of Dyon. So that's the credit. I mean, I'm not making this stuff up.
She's the one who said it in her green book. The earliest town record of assisting the poor in Dyon was in August of 1719. Let's remember the town was only established in 1712. So 7 years later, we're already we're already
bankrupt. Monies town monies were spent for a coffin and burial for a Mr. Henry Moore. Mr. Moore had no money and could not afford his own burial. Mrs. Darothy Paul, wife of John Paul, I asked Pat to find out where do the Pauls live in
Dyon, but we think they were on a Sonet neck in Berkeley because we don't think they were in the Dyon that we know. But anyway, back when that was I just want to give you an idea of back when Exactly. So, Mrs. Darothy Paul, wife of John Paul, allowed her a slave to dig
the grave. Yes. Slavery was alive and well in 1719 in Don. The town compensated her. Colonists had their hands full caring for their own families and couldn't afford the financial burden of additional poor. In the 1790s and
early 1800s, auctions were held where individuals or entire families were handed over to whoever would feed and clothe them for the least amount. The selectman sometimes indentured young children to families who would feed,
clothe, and educate them in exchange for what work they could do for the person who regardless of race. We're talking mostly white people here. So like, but it wasn't Well, that's not slavery. We're talking mostly white people. But there was there was slavery.
Mentioned that he you know, he was a negro. Um, so I just wanted to throw that in because I thought that was interesting. Wow. I think all this is interesting. It's were just farmers or families. Poor people. Poor people. That's true. And the majority of the population was
white. Exactly. Um some years one man would bid on all of the poor in the town. By 1819, the idea of a house for to house the poor was discussed at a town committee. That was in 1819.
In 1920, James Cornell, a gentleman who lived in town, took in all the poor for $400. Translated in today's value, that would have been $10,86055. So that's what he was paid to take in all the poor. In 19 in 1826, the
poor were sold in three different lots. $193 for a lot of seven people. Then there was another lot of seven people that got $200. must have been stronger, bigger workers. And then there was five people and that lot got $172.
In 1830, the town voted to appropriate $2,000. In 1830, come on, that's a lot of money. Toward a suitable house for these poor. They were thinking, "No, we really got to do something here." So, four farms were considered. Now, if you
have read Helen Lane's writings, they don't really follow along. And and so four farms were considered. Don't think I'm gonna tell you what they were because she never told us. So, one of them was the Gooding Farm, which of course was part of Bristol Aggie. That
was a consideration for a spot. And they ended up using a farm by from George Wear W A. And that farm was located on Main Street, across the street from 1136 Maine, which is where I grew up. So the
poor were only housed there for one year. So that it was in the field across that street. When I was a kid, there was a stone foundation and we used to go exploring as all kids go exploring. And my mother and father never knew who with the family name that was there. It was
George Wear. But the town poor farm was located there for only one year. Okay. Um then the town purchased the farm on Smith Street which is where we've been talking about since from Pegle Francis of Taton. There were 73 acres in this
parcel. Parcel and buildings were purchased for $2,300. Now I just told you they were only allotted $2,000. So what do you do? So the town paid half one year and half the following year with the stipulation that no interest was to be paid on the
balance. Come on. Come on. This is good. So by 1832 the house needed repairs. Didn't do anything. But in 1835 a wooden addition was added to the north side of this original house. In 1852, the town
spent $1,600 to build a new house on the same property, which is, I believe, the house, if you ever get to go there. So, it's not the original one, but it is on the same track of land. So, that's the that was the later poor house. The first town report, you know, the old town
reports. Okay. The first town report was printed in 1854. Then there were none until 1858. That's important. Oh, wow. I don't have any from the 1800s. Do you know the oldest you have? Probably 1890s. You've got some 1800s. Yeah.
Anyway, those things I have some, right? Those things are lovely because they tell you so much. So, this is my private collection. So, this is I have 1910, 11, 12, 13, 14. I just brought those before the typhoon. Think like that's crazy.
Expenses d expenses for the home were for grass, pasture, grain, groceries, a bull, two steers, herring, uh beef, blacksmithing, shoes, and medical. One year those totaled, the total of all the expenses to run the
poor farm was $33. The poor farm sold produce and oxen to make money. This is the original journal. sad that I have this, but hey, it's the original journal from the poor farm. The
cover is missing, but you'll see that page one is there. So, I'm not missing any pages. And on the side, it just says journal. And if you open it up, it's from 1900, 1901, 1902, and 1903. And of course, the poor farm closed later. So, they would tell you
how many uh dozens of eggs they sold coffee over here. Is it 38 and a half dozen eggs at 20? That's how much a dozen eggs went for. That's 20 cents back then. I mean, it's the neatest book. And if you just keep reading, it
talks about who the guy was who came to check their records to make sure everything was on the up and up. What am I doing with this? You might ask, why do you ask? Why do you have it? My son said, "Uh, we have that." I said, "Yeah." And he handed it to me. I said, "Where'd we get it from?" And I will not
repeat where he told me we got it from, but what am I doing with that? You know, I mean, really. Um, so in 1875, Gayton had a new problem. Tramps. Oh my god. Really?
Bagabonds. Bagabond. You had a red light district. No. No. Not that kind of Your mind's in the gutter. Homeless. 14. I legit. That's what I wasn't even being facious. That's where I literally
thought she meant got I know you did. That would make sense though historically speaking that would be at the farm in the course of the year. I'm not saying 140 all the same day because the house can't hold 140 people. So in 75 140 tramps were there. Uh in
1878 30 tramps were recorded at various times of the year being in the house. Now what attracted them here? Strawberry time. because we got all these strawberries that need to be picked and it's only for a very short window. So, you need a lot of labor because Dy was
strawberry, you know, king of the world, I guess, at that point. So, the tramps were, you know, they made whatever money they made for a very short window and that's why they came through Dyon. But Dyon doesn't want the tramps to stay here because then someone needs to pay
for them and they become an expense. So how contemporary kind of is it kind of it kind of is very very indented servant pretty much. Uhhuh. So in 1909 and again this goes up to 1903 so it was sort of near the end of the poor farm. Um the
farm and house were sold keeping a 4 acre gravel hill with a right away to Smith Street. So you know if you go on Smith Street and it's like a I think it's still dirt to go down there. Yeah. So that belonged to the town so it wasn't part of the sale.
Um, by 1926, support for the poor came under uh category of charity. And in 26, the town appropriated $8,000, you know, for for charity cases like this. Now, there's some law in 1910
that prohibits the publishing of the people's names who were in the poor house. Oh, okay. But but and I was talking to um the Berkeley Historical Society today. They didn't seem to have a problem with that. And in one of the
books that I was looking at, they talked about the poor farm and medical expenses. And there was a Mr. McKenna who received that's Patty's maiden name for those of you that don't know that. So there was a I'll give you his first name if you want to. Yeah. If you want to
look him up. Yeah. So they talked about the people to go that far back here. No. No. You sure? Even if they did, she ain't going to tell you that. And now she's not. I have no entice. But if you get your hands on an old town report,
this one is um from 1913. And right in the beginning of the book they always talk about report of the overseers of the poor because you know that was we needed to discuss that um settlements and aid
and if it's not this one it's the other one that talked about which name person received how much medication Mr. McKenna didn't receive. That's the part so that's the part they published for that reason. I know they shouldn't have said McKenna because it
was after 1910. It's nobody's business that people can figure out like he was receiving money from the poor, right? I mean, come on. That is just awful. So, I know there was a law in 1910 that prohibited that. Where's Mr. McKenna? Did they ever funny? Yeah. I thought
they outlaw Did they officially outlaw pork farms in general or did they just kind of stop being a thing? They went their way like Yeah. Yeah. But look at the condition of this from 1912. That's horrifying. There is a book. I'll ask my wife. She Yes, please do. And she can
give me the title on Saturday. Yeah. And and they have like photos of towns if someone digitized them. But this microphone for 1912. They talk about uh they paid the city of Fall River for board. So
Fall River must have taken some of our poor. Yeah. They paid Taton. I know that Mary Beth said Somerset there were a lot of people that they paid Taon. Yeah. Okay. Taton took a lot. But you and it lists how much they paid them and how many people it involved. What made that
What made it legal? Because I mean you're buying people to do work for you. No, you're not buying people. You're providing them with you're hiring them. So and they work for you. Indentures are Yeah. So it literally
wasn't denim server. Yeah. So it's like Right. Okay. So we're not giving you money but we're giving you a roof of food. So yeah. Was it temporary? Like when they when they would go there was there ever a stipulation of like you're here for 3 months or was it like you're
here until you can't be until you're good there until you found another alternative which could be however long it which could be move away and go somewhere else. Maybe you had a relative in another relative orever. up. Do you know what the longest time like one person or one family spent there? No, I don't. So, I would think most of these
tramps are men, I would assume. But then it was the kids that they um the tramps, they came from Weston, by the way. What were they doing in West Diton, you know, coming from Rehobath? It's those Rehob people. We always have them to blame.
But they they came that way. And so, of course, the house on Smith Street was right along their path. I wonder if they were coming from like Providence, you know, the bigger city. Could be. And traveling this way for work. And well, we had the strawberries. What did other people have? Like was there fishing
things or herring her run? You need a lot of manpower for that. Yeah. Interesting. Yes. These province didn't exist yet. That was part of our whole business. Wasn't there was no suburbs yet kind of houses. Somebody has to build houses. So I would think but they weren't going up like they
are like, you know. Yeah, that is not much changes. Your ship builders were probably building a lot of the houses. Yeah. Yeah. So, that is if you get a hold of an old town off town report. So, they're wonderful. They are. I love looking at
them. There are a lot of some of those older ones if anyone's interested. Jack Society has extras because for some reason they printed in the 19 early 1900s. They printed tons and tons of them. Yeah. And people saved them. Yeah.
And people have been donating them to the society. Like it's an important thing they have. I have this collection and they think it's swell. Well, you don't need five, six, 10 people bringing you their collection of reports. Take it and you go through it to make sure that you have all of the, you know, reports
in case you're missing any something. Yeah. The Mass State Archives also has them. I know that I think the farthest we go back I think is maybe 1880s and I want to get up there because they go back I think to
1858 for Somerset at the archive. I'd like to see what was happening during this. It's a hard copy one. Is it Is it I think it's hard copy. No, some have digital. I don't think Yeah. So, so probably I would assume if you went in the mass archives and looked for Dyon,
you could see how far back they went. I know sometimes in the past, um, Dyon wasn't very good at sending their information to the state because they're missing, you know, how when you're doing genealogy, they have those tan books. Well, Dyon doesn't have a tan book,
okay? Because they didn't send the information to the state and the state made those. So there's other towns and cities that also are missing from that series. Um because the state just didn't get it. So how about when they buy land? The poor guy has to wait a year to get
the other half of his money. I know you pay these things and you go come up. I'd be like, um, no. Yeah. Really? Or do I get some interest on that? No. So they only had $2,000. They couldn't give them $2,300. So I guess is that or nothing?
Would you rather not? No, I guess not. So awesome. So that's that's interesting. I love this kind of stuff. But slavery slavery here in Don. I didn't think I didn't think that we had anybody. They were they were emancipated during the Revolutionary War, weren't
they? I forget the date, but that's when it wasn't 1719. And 1719 is when the guy was digging the grave. Yeah. But Don did something. I'm not sure the date. early on to free their their slaves before Civil War. Yes, it was before the Civil
War. I think that it was outlawed. I think it was 1785. I think I I could be wrong. I have to I know that Yeah. at the Quaker meeting house, Swani Friends Meeting House, and I'll keep it brief. Patient
Sprayton was an early abolitionist, and she got all the Quakers that went to the Swansea Friends Meeting House to free their slaves, um, including her
husband. And she also tooured all 13 colonies speaking against slavery, including Georgia. Okay. Hey, what do you mean including her husband? Was he black? No, her husband. Her husband I'm sorry. That's what I That's what I thought you meant, too. I was like, so
she freed her husband. That was a great husband. Talk about I did not That's not what I heard. I thought you meant that she freed her husband. I'm like inter Wow. Interracial. Wow. That's did not think that was Yeah. Her husband owned slaves and she gota shamed him and the
rest of the people into freeing them. That's braver. That's braver honestly than and then she um went to try to convince King George in England. She went never she went to England. She crossed the ocean and she couldn't get
an audience with him and on a number on a one at least one of her tours while she was gone one of her children died. Wow. Now why isn't nothing named after her? But yeah, we have wellton road. Oh, Brighton Road or Braen Point. Brain point. Is it the same? Oh, okay. And I'd
have to talk to McDonald because everybody thought she was from Somerset. She's either from Rehobath or Gayton. She that's where she lived. She um practiced her religion and at the
person to me. Um she was born in Rhode Island. Green patient screen. Hm. G R E N E. I'm pretty sure that's you're that you're testing my memory here. Interesting. Yeah, I know some greens
are from Rehob. But if you go on to um archive.org and type in patience Braen, they had I've heard that name. They had a patience. I've heard the same name, but like remembrance of her that's like a number of pages talks about her tour
and this and that. That's great. Awesome. Is she buried in Somerset? She's buried at the meeting house. We don't know where. Oh, don't dig too much then. Literally. Well, because the early tarin headstones. Oh,
and then they later came on board with that. But yeah, because you kind of lose them because Yeah. Awesome. Okay. All right. So, thank you. Thank you for coming and I will contact Pat.
Okay. I I do I have your email address. It's not on there. It's your phone number. Definitely send Pat the link to that. Yeah, I'll send send to that. And if she wants to forward my email address, of course. Mine's just name only. The
pen doesn't really write. Okay. Do you have electronic versions of the walking tour brochures that you guys have done? No, we do not. I wish we did. I am going to the Berkeley um historical society again next Tuesday at 10:00.
They open at 10 because they have some antique quilts that she wants me to look at. I'm hi or you know I'm at the antique quilt. If you ever find yours, we will. Thank you. Well, it's not that antique. It was for the bsentennial, right? Oh, well, no, we're talking older than that. Oh, older than that. Yeah.
So, I'm excited to go see that. So, I will be there if you want to see anything on ship building then. I I can't be there because I'm working and there's a board meeting that night. So, I might come over and see what their book is in comparison to it. Yeah. Great. Well, thank you very much. Thank
you, John. And I don't think Mary Beth has all all that early stuff, so I'm going to have to tell her about that. You know that I'll stop in and see her. Yeah. Okay. All right. Sounds good. Thank you. Have a great night. So Pat, when you're talking about people indicting Yes. owning slaves or or Yes.
At the risk of sounding Go ahead. Were there less expensive slaves like ones that weren't as able-bodied or weren't as that were cheaper? Oh, you mean when they sold them like lots of people? You mean so think about like back then we were surprised that like any one in Diton was wealthy enough to afford a
slave? Oh no, those people were. If you talk about Elcana Andrews in well slave auctions I mean they no so the auctions that she was talking about are just they were people in town to get them off the books for the for the town to support them they wanted somebody to volunteer
to say I'll take so many of them for so much money no not that but you were surprised people in Don Don had a slave while allowing to dig a grave I'm telling you that slavery was alive and well in 1719 in Don that doesn't surprise you okay it surprised It's No, that's what
I'm saying. It surprised me that anyone back then in Dayton was wealthy enough to afford Oh, they Oh, no. Alana Andrews was one of the most wealthy wealthiest men. When he died, he owned like six houses. He owned land. Yeah. Yeah. But he was the president back because they're going
down to South America trading for molasses and sugar and um stuff and they're coming back here with it. So he's in South America and Alcana Andrews actually brought three um South American blacks back with him as his
slaves. He did free them. One actually served um in the Revolutionary War. Wasn't there a gentleman named Caesar? Yes. Yes. That's one of the slaves names that And the other one was Yeah. So
um who was it? I just the Talawit I not Talibits Whitmash, but they had slaves and the slaves would go and they would serve. When the slaves were serving in the Revolutionary War, they had to go for three years because they went instead of their m their their
masters and they took their they took their term pretty much. They got their term and then they ended up with their freedom after. Right. But Don did have like an emancipation act
around 17 80 somewhere in there. Um that slavery was not allowed in in town anymore. I did not know that towns did that. Yeah. I just assume that slavery was they wait until it was here.
Now, wasn't the burial ground on Elm Street? Um for the poppers at one time. That's where they people who didn't have money. You got buried. You know where the kids slide down the hill? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go up there. Yeah. The cemetery. Yeah. I
was seen as little. Yeah. So, all right. Now, how about order. I think it's nice when other towns and you collaborate. Just thinking now that so he was talking about what they're doing, you know, for the anniversary and that's why I was just trying to get a
date out of you just to give an idea. This is what we're planning for around this time and um the historical society and their reenactment and other things. That's all. I'm surprised he didn't have more considering Somerset's, you know, a bigger town. Again, depending on who's on
who it's not about resources, still works full-time. Plus, he's the director of the historical society and you're dependent upon volunteers and some of them are good and some of them aren't. So, I can bring the calendar, the tenative calendar that we have on Saturday because Mary Beth will be a
genealogy. Excellent. You know, so I'll do that. Um, the minutes of March 11th. Does anyone have any changes? I don't either. I'll entertain a motion to accept the
minutes as for March 11th as submitted. So moved. Is there a second? Second. Okay. Um, all in favor? I All right. Our budget. So, our budget remains the same as of
April 30th, $1,141.13. We still have the $80 encumbered um for the historical marker sign, but that only stays until June 30th, and then it goes back into the free cash. Um July 2nd is the last date for
any invoices for this fiscal year, and incumbrances will be due by July 10th. which we may have to do for the GIS mapping for West Ditton. They are working on it. I talked to Luke from the
um CI technologies the other day. So he started the project. He has all the data from from Stacy. Um so hopefully maybe it might even be done before the end of the fiscal year. That would be nice. What if it's not?
Then we just encumber the money. Um, now I did have So we do have So that will take up like $550. I had a little sticky with all of
my notes on it, but heaven knows what I did with it. The GIS is 550. Yeah, they said 350 to 550. It's not terrible. No, it's not terrible. Yeah, it's not as much as, you know,
Mount Hope, but it's not as much. The color was just sticky. It was pink. That No, that's another one. So, I was looking at our expenditures and stuff. Um, that would bring us down to about 500. We do have
some printing that we will um need to do for the Weston surveys. So, and then I was thinking we should order some um office supplies kinds of things. So, so our FY26 budget, we met on March
13th, that seems like so long ago because we didn't meet in April with the board of selectmen and the fincom and we presented our budget for 1,100. And I saw the um warrant in the minutes from the last I think it was the last selectman's
meeting and it's for $1,000 will be at the t at town meeting. So we tried hard but they still cut us. I mean they could they could they could have cut they could have cut a lot more.
I added so they cut mine but what Oh you added money. I made sure you went over what you wanted. So you would I because I knew negotiation. We did that one year. Yeah, we did that. It's a game. I think I did it for someone a couple years ago. You just got to just got to
play it. It's a business. I mean, all right. Um preserving memories of Dayton FAQ back. So
we tried again with another candidate to be Camden was I mean that was probably the supposed to be the first. No, MNA was technically first. Yeah. Well, we tal we talked I know. But I'm just We talked about Cam and um scheduling with him.
He's now working. His mom's like job that's like Yeah. And school and everything. So scheduling with him has become a little more difficult. Um but we'll work on unless with the summer maybe he'll have a more set work schedule because I know that that's the thing with his mom was like well it's the thing be so week to week. So even if
you tell me three weeks it's like you might guess we're scheduled two weeks out and it's so Oh my sticky is his mother Carolyn Vura. Yeah she yeah she's a horse writer.
Yeah. So, we asked um another candidate, John Jagat, and he came back with this whole series of questions before he would sign it. So, um that's when I made up the fre from his questions that he had the fre the frequently asked question sheet to go with it. I talked
to Ralph, the town administrator. He says, "Why don't you try, you know, answering the questions in this manner and just attach it to your permission slip?" So, what kind of questions did he ask? I ask I don't I don't have them. Yeah. Don't tell me all of them. Just what kind of questions you feel like it
was like along the lines of what ma asked. Some of them were. So this is the this permission slip and then the second sheet is the frequently asked questions. Nothing changed with the permission slip. Right. It's just the adding of the Right. Okay. Right.
So, I um I'll give you a minute to take a look at it. It's my post on our Facebook page. Huh? Should I hold on Facebook page? This for this forum. No, look at it if you're
interested. I would maybe we should advertise it and they could contact us again. Then we would send it send that. Yeah. If if you just post that blindly, number two and number eight. If you were asking me these questions, I would never
ask those two questions. And my family have a copy. And then number eight, same thing. My family have unrestricted access. No, no, they can't look at it. What are you asking that for? What's the I don't get it. I'm I'm sorry. I am missing it. No, I when Pat told me this, I was like, if
we were a dirt digging type of tabloid or a like a deep throat kind of like we're not going to mention our sources political group. I can totally get the
protectiveness about like guarding their identities or like ownership, but like I'm talking about like tell me what it was like to live indictments. It's like who owns my words like Yeah. We don't want any we're not looking for scandal or I know exactly that's the thing. Your memories. We're
not going to make money out of this. So the only thing that like the reason why that was even a question was like I mentioned I don't know who published it like what group but the fall so called it's called fall river voices and it's an oral history in book hard book that
and you can get a PD I mean ebook too that they sold for money I could understand that if we were looking to do that it's like okay well if I'm giving you my story like we're buying it from you because we're going to publish it and make money and no you don't get 10 cents for every book that
we sell. If we were doing that, I could understand the questions and the copyright and the ownership because like if cover is like, yeah, we're we're buying it from you, but we're not doing that. So, that's why I was getting more and more frustrated. It's kind like I
don't understand what the issue is, right? So, is there a connection between the two potential candidates? No, not really. No. Okay. All right. But it is interesting that like both of them raised similar questions.
So by answering these frequently asked questions, can we go back to Mara? Can we go back to what's this? We certainly can. Whether that will change their answers once they sign a permission form. Like number 10. If I
change my mind in the future, is there a way to request removal of restraint access? Not after you sign the form. Well, you can you give up your right after, but you you can say yes in writing. You say yes or no. You can say yes. Yeah, you really I mean I I
I do I I understand like I think Mike was the one who really like the first really heavy legally worded permission slip that really started all this was more there's wording in there that Mike added for whatever reason that he felt
necessary and I think that's what turned off some people right now because he was like we have to assume the worst we have to assume that Mrs. Smith is going to mention that, oh yeah, like my kids own that house. And you'll have a sibling in
California goes, wait a second, what? I didn't know we own that property. Why is with my sick in that? And the next thing you know, it's going back to fire in the butt. That's what he was like kind of saying like we have to assume something like that's going to happen because you got to not run your slowest runner, but
like assume the worst. And I was like, okay, but I just want to talk to her about what it was like to to work at the general store. So, what's your next step? What's your plan? So, I think we'll try again. That's right. With somebody else with with somebody else or I'll go back to the second, you know, to John and say, "Here are the answers to
your questions." You know, um like based on John's email, I don't think he seemed as turned off. I think he was more genuinely like question. Right. Yeah. Not saying that M's questions weren't
genuine, but I think he was more like interested by his questions as opposed to defensive about the questions or or however word you want to use. I think, you know, by asking for the permission
slip, you know, um saying that you're releasing the information, it's just that interview. it has nothing, you know, that doesn't mean that person can't go out and talk about their me their that content of it anymore, you know, right? We don't own
that. It's just that particular interview if there's something that comes up and like, you know, we're saying that um because it's like number six was one I was thinking about. Could my words use any exhibits, books, or materials that like you're given permission for it to be
shared because right in the one to the third bullet. If you didn't want to share, you wouldn't be doing it. It says it will be Yeah, but it al we are also saying it will be distributed to the public for educational and you know entertainment purposes. So
um but I guess my question for six the word book is what throws me. Not me, but if I was like, "Okay, so that's saying if you were going to publish this, like let's say five years from now, we should go we should compile a
hard copy of all these stories that we told and make a book." Could someone say, "Wait a second." I was fine with you like putting it on like the town website. I don't necessarily know if I want my thing in a book. Okay, that's what my thing, right? Oh, yeah. Are you planning on putting first name, last
name? Maybe the answer is Pat G said this. Yeah. Now you know who Pad G is, but you people don't, you know, because so maybe you don't put their full name. Then could they can they object to those are my words and you know that's a good
question. I think that would even be more of a town council question in terms of like where do you go from like remaining anonymous? You can't then say that's me. It's like no no no you didn't want to say it was you. You can't now say it was you. But I don't know if we just keep it to the point that we're
just doing oral histories right now and that we're going to keep them and digitized you know um and we're going to store them here. They're the prop that that particular interview becomes the property of the town you know and that's
it. Nothing else you know and yes you can have a copy of it. Yes you can have you know um it is available for the public. we're not going to be writing a book. you know, if it came to that, you know, in all good conscience, I would say you would go back to your interview
people and ask to source them if you're going to be really truly doing that kind of a project, which I mean, and I think like the thing like let's say I interview my neighbor and they want to give me pictures of them in front of the
school before it burnt down and they say, "Oh, when you put my article on the town website, feel free to put my picture there. I'm not going to say I own that picture now. I will say like pro photo provided by so and so. It's not like us saying it's mine. It's more
just saying like and if you don't want us to if you don't want to share it, why are you doing this? So that's why I'm surprised by the I'm surprised at how many questions I'm s it's like why if
you want to if you want to share these things wouldn't you be like go ahead do tell everybody that's why I'm doing this I wouldn't be like oh I would be excited to tell my story because it's your memory and you're telling somebody your memory will last forever now because
he's going to digitize it or whatever. Yeah. But how amazing is that? How amazing is that? To tell your story. Yeah. And truly be excited about your story and knowing it's going to last forever. That's amazing. That's what the goal was. But I feel like there's so I
feel like people are acting like we're like, "Hey, tell me your family's deepest secrets and we're going to put it online." I feel like that's the attitude relationship between one and two. Understandable. Understandable. There is. Then yeah, I'd go with a off the top of my head. I'm thinking Jeff
Ally. You think Jeff Alli is going to ask you these questions? Never in hell. The things though when you first mentioned John, you had mentioned it in passing to him and he seemed like, "Oh, absolutely." And almost like I got the impression that he was ready to go tomorrow. And then all of a sudden you
like, "Well, now he has these questions like you almost didn't expect no that he would have any kind of questions." But I think we answer the questions you know then the questions come up and you know people start have show them this and people start having um questions we can say oh here you know this will answer
your questions um you know and just go we're prepared to have to answer the questions now because now we know what the questions are going to be right I mean let's say worst comes worse if someone is really I can say like let's say I give the question ahead of
time and if one of the questions was, "Tell me about your family's history in that house." And if someone goes, "You know what? I really check our history with my family and the ownership. Please, let's not go into that." Then I won't ask them that. I'm not going to be like Howard Stern and be like, "Remember that time?" Like, and have them be like caught off guard. I won't just tell me
about you going to school. I won't mention your house. You know what I mean? Like if that if that's going to be something you don't want me to talk about, I won't talk about it. Before you start your interview, you then get, you know, talk to the person about the kinds of things that you're talking about. what you know what what what do you which is what I was doing with murder
that time I met with her like this is what I plan on talking about with you and she even went into some detail and she even said several times well I'll wait I'll wait until we're doing it what not that you know there are now but like that was a pre-in so to speak I know that sounds really scary but that's essentially what it was but that's what you want to do because that gives that
person that you're interviewing a parameter of what you're going to be talking about and what the content is going to be do you feel like an I feel like we could somewhere on here put sample questions of what you're going to be asked. I feel like if someone goes, "Oh,
you want to know where I went to school and what I did for a job?" Whatever. That's fine. I think I think that depends on who you're interviewing. Yeah. Because Right. Right. Right. Right. Talking about MNA. None of that was going to be talked about. It was be more about her as a selection and stuff like that. Not so much her family, but
some will be nothing to do with town policies because they weren't in it. All they did was own a farm. you know, not all they did, but that's what their contribution was. I guess my other thing was I'm glad you put uh seven can I review beforehand
because my biggest thing was like we're not doing this back and forth thing where it's like, okay, it's done. Can I review it? Yeah, I'll look at it tomorrow. Yes. Okay. But now like that I'm glad you did say that. Um same thing as three. like three is I'm like I think you do I'm I'm glad you
put one as one. I feel like like I know you're very agreeable. I like the way you did three. Well, I like one as one because number one is like I think that will take the weight off people's shoulders. Well, I have the right to use and share the content. Yes, go for it. We're not saying that we're buying it
from you because we're not doing that. If that's what we were doing, we would say, "No, we we're not gonna publish your article that we're gonna sell and then let you do that." But that's not what we're doing. I have a question. What if another historical commission
uh invites the interviewee to do the same for their group? What do you mean? Go ahead. Okay. So, that would be That's a totally different They can make their own. They don't have a contract with them to be exclusive, right? But what I see what what this person is telling us
may not necessarily be the same. Well, what kind of person is that? So that's why you have to be very cautious about what kind of interview are we going to ask these questions because they could be lying before we know. They could be like fabricating all these stories and stuff. Well, some people's memories do good point.
Take medication for Pete's sake. Maybe they forget forget this. Do I remember everything? But you got to remember memories are based on you. Know for example my siblings and I there's six of us and an event would have happened in the family each one of us has a
different way not not necessarily not necessarily malicious or or doesn't make one right or wrong you know but it's mom wasn't mom wasn't there for that yes she was like that kind of thing you say all these things now 10 years down the road
when this is published you look back at your interview I don't remember saying that. Well, there it is. That's right. Number seven. Number if the interview is transcribed, can I review it before it's published or shared? I think it's only logical that
the interviewer should h should get the chance to review it. It's no any different from let's say being an author. The sending a manuscript to a publisher, they give you the right to reread. The reason so that one stems back from the first permission step I
did and the reason two reasons why I did that. One is that I didn't want the back and forth like oh you took out the part where I mentioned all my teachers I ever ever had. We're not going to sit there and listen like like the editing that's like I said any editing would be in good faith. So let's say we're talking and
you and I go off on a tangent and you end up talking about how you went to Cape Cod for the summer. Great conversation. Has nothing to do with Dyon. This is about Dian's history, not necessarily your biography. I choose to not put that in the interview. I don't want them to say, "Oh, you didn't
mention the Cape Cod thing." Okay. Can you put that back in? All right. Like, I don't want the back and forth or the wait or the waiting on them. Like, by signing the form, you're saying that you trust us to put into words this and put it out there. If you feel like you need
to look at it first, then you clearly don't trust us. Don't sign it. Don't do it. That's my attitude about it. Also, I didn't want to be waiting on someone. Let's say I sent it to you, Rafa. It's all set. What do you think? Oh, look at it. Two weeks go by. Yeah, next meeting. Rafa still doesn't get back to me about
his thing. I think that was the biggest. Well, I think some people are just concerned how they're going to proceed 10 years, 20 years down the road by other people once he's interviewed or listened to. But this isn't 2020. This isn't this isn't like Princess Diana's interview. Doesn't
matter. It doesn't I mean like that's I can understand if this was a Princess Diana thing where you want to know how you're going to look 30 years about perceptions 20 years down the road. We don't know. I mean you don't you want to be perceived 20 years down the road? That's the whole point of this. You know take think about when you look at like
your home movies and stuff when you were kids. How can an idiot in all those? So how could we you know wear those weird clothes? You know it's a perception. So your your look back, I don't think that's a fair kind of statement. We
can't protect that because everything changes. And hence why we're allowing people to do it in audio, visual or written. Let's say someone's like, I don't like how I come across on camera. I don't feel comfortable doing it. Okay, then we'll do just written. I'm going to audio record it because I need to be able to listen back and type up what you
say. I will not publish the audio clips. It's strictly for me to edit so I can go back and type it. That will not go public. Someone says, "I'll do a podcast version. I don't want anything like written or TV, but I'll do podcast." Great. We'll do no camera. We're giving people those options. It's transcripted
though. If we if we authorize that like some people might like Now, how long are we looking like what is the how long is the interview per se going to be? Like are you looking like let's talk for two hours? I need more
than a 15 minute conversation. I need more. I think it would depend. I mean, I think if we were doing this 20 years ago, people didn't have the the podcast didn't exist. People didn't have the attention span to sit and it was into an hour long podcast. Now people do. So, I
think you could do a like a 15-minute one. I'm not going to do a 15minute audio, but a 15-minute audio thing could turn into a threepage. It depends on the conversation. I think timewise, you're you wouldn't plan any more than an hour.
Oh, definitely. Right. More than an hour less than like 15 minutes, right? People after an hour, you know, like they're they don't pay attention anymore. Like if we stay on topic, I'm not going to be taking the
conversation and typing into a chapter book form. I might literally put Zack colon tell me about school. Mrs. Smith: This is where I went. like literally just publishing the words that were said. Editing. I'm going to take off that three or four minutes where we talk about Hannerford because we get off
topic. That's the editing I'm going to be doing. I'm not going to say, "Oh, you said you went to Don." Well, I'm going to say you actually went to Somerset. No, I Yeah. Okay. So, can you just explain Sorry, explain the
unrestricted access. Did that stem from him? Yeah. What did he mean by that? That's one I like unrestricted access. If it's public, then everyone's got the same access. What do they And same thing as like uh will my work be public or
access restricted? Like we're not going to have a login to get onto it? Like I don't I guess I didn't know what they meant by that. I know what they meant, but what did they mean by that? No, they make a copy of their interview and just pass it on to their descendants. Period. Simple as that. But when things are if
we were if we were buying it then we would be more hesitant with that because we're younger now. So the interview is going to just be available to the public you know for viewing only. It's not going to be um but what do they mean by viewing like I mean like I guess I
didn't understand that question. Well unrestricted access to my interview. You mean number eight? Yes. Will my family have unrestricted access like Yes. I mean say you know I mean as long as the technology upholds I mean essentially I mean or if the archives go down and we lose it we'll provide a copy when
requested in writing. So say you know the grandchild wants a copy of it and grandpa's not around anymore. Yeah. You know right or or someone goes hey you know like I don't know if I'll ever be able to get onto that website. Can I have a hard copy? Can you print out the hard copy of the script? Sure. I
wouldn't necessarily do that for anybody, but like if someone wants that, that's what I took this as, you know. Okay. Yeah, we we'll give your family a copy. Just put it in writing and we'll get it to you, you know. Easy. Easy peasy. And then what did it mean by eight though? Available to the public or
will access be restricted? Like restricted to who? Which one? That's f five. What does it mean by will access be restricted? I mean, that's why the way the internet works is that you Google something, you find it. It'll be available for viewing
only. As opposed to what? I don't know. That was one of John's questions. I don't even know what that means. Restricted to the public. You know, if you can get on to Titan's YouTube channel. I'm just being nitpicky because I'm I'm expecting somebody to
come back with a question to every question and I want to be able to say this is what we mean by that. If I say I Why don't I do this so I can take this and um has John seen this? I thought they need to approve it because it certainly doesn't. But like run it by him and say, "Does this answer your questions?"
And if it does, it does. If it doesn't, it doesn't. It doesn't. And I say, "Well, those are the answers." I mean, because you can sit and nitpick like, "What if? What if? What if all you know, all night long, right?" Um I'm just surprised it even
came back a second time. the first time considering the source. I'm more than surprised. This one I'm surprised because especially because yeah, I think the big question is is the number one. Well, I have the right to use and share the content of the interview myself. Yeah, you can use the content. It's
yours. The content, right? We're not buying it. We're not Yeah. Right. Um I would just edit though the four. Will my interview be stored in access? It will be on Don's YouTube channel. Yeah, I would say that's would be pending because if someone goes, I don't
want video. I just want you to type up a version and put it on the Facebook page for someone to read. Like, so like not everyone will not everyone necessarily want to be video. You do you know what I mean? I feel like that might throw off some people because it'll be on YouTube. I don't want to be on YouTube. I'm not doing this. I don't want people to think
that they need to do that. I would say you do need to have the other part where you say it will be stored digitally on the histo archives because whether it's print, audio or video, yes, it will be just but it won't it won't be on YouTube. If someone just wants a written version, it won't be on YouTube. Just
take that out then completely the YouTube the first sentence I would say it will be stored digitally on the Dy historical archives. Okay. Yeah. And then on the video audio and then in conversations when I would like if someone goes what do you mean by video?
Well, if you want to do that, oh, no, I don't want to do that. Okay, then don't worry about it being video. Don't worry about YouTube. Okay. Anything else? I don't think so. Does that sound like a plan? Does the town manager need to see this
part, too? Did he ask for this, too? Um, I know. I know. Is it his opinion that we that we did it, but Yeah. No, he still have the answers, too. Oh, we did. Oh, okay. Gotcha. So, Okay, with that, do I need a motion to
accept the frequently asked questions as edited? I guess. Yeah, I agree with you. So, I'll make a motion that we adapt the preserving memories of frequently asked questions pending, not pending, but with the edits that will be made. Okay. Is
there a second? Second. All in favor? Hi. Okay, we'll move on from there. Thank you. Historical markers. Rafa, did you Where'd he go?
Oh, I thought it was a time capsule you were talking about. No, it was Markers. Markers. Oh, that is where I saw the time capsule like that that like that armwire thing that they have there. Not that I was looking for answer from I wasn't. But that's what I thought you
were talking about. Some some um that Jackie Matchmmer. Yeah. Um she referred me to another person, Mike Rose. Yeah. Like a voicemail message uh and my cell phone when I was
sick and I lost my voice so I couldn't get back to him. So that took about four weeks. So I left him another message yesterday to call me so we can talk because he wants to talk. Okay. I'm still waiting for a call back with the school with BP.
All right. Irene did go and she talked with Old Old Old Colony Regional um to see if they could help us. So, they have a she brought the sign to show them the carpentry can do the sign.
The the carpentry shop at um Old Colony Check. Um, they would do like a sheet of the composite board for $287. They could get 30 signs from the piece for
approximately$8 to $10. However, they don't do the lettering because they don't have the equipment to do the lettering. Okay. Is that Isn't that what you said? Yeah. So also what happens is um
do they have a source that they use for lettering? No. If they don't do it themselves, they don't have a source. No. So they don't have the machine to print out the lettering. So what was the other thing? Oh, I know. So when she was talking about cutting
out the 10 signs from, you know, one board, I was like, "Then that means we would have to buy the board and and then be and then be sitting on it, you know." Yeah. No. So it just got very I said, "But the owners
are the ones that pay for the sign, not the commission." Oh. And I said, "That just isn't going to work. just the whole and I think you might run into the the same thing with BP too. Um if they're not going to want to deal
with individual owners for the signs, they're just waiting for an order to come in one at a time. If waiting for an order to come in one at a time. Yeah. Unless you did a bulk order. Do you do like f four or five signs at a time? I say how schools operate. like if it's
like a pro it's like a project because couldn't you technically do the sign do the the whole Dyon historical commission and do all that and then just wait for just have those ready to go and then just and just have just the actual
address or whatever. Yeah, like that. That's true. Like they can is there a way they they can just do 10 blank ones or but we don't want to be involved with the money part of the signs. I see.
Okay. Gotcha. So because we're not we're not making the signs. We're not buying signs. Okay. So I think that might that's going to be tough. Yes. So, you might want to check with, you know, when you talk to
Mike Rose, which they charge us for the James Briggs, the $30. Yeah. $30 and nothing. Yeah. But our problem is the way that our marker program is set up is that the owner is buying the
sign that goes with the house. We're not purchasing anything that goes with the historical markers. Do we have the budget for why? It's not the budget, it's the the transparency of who owns it, the
town and Oh, so I sell my house. I'm moving to California, but I want my sign cuz it's I want as a memory. No, the house. No, I can see why that could be a problem. And our budget, the town town accountant didn't like us being involved in the purchasing of the
signs and then selling because Rahobit sells them. their commission sells them, but it gets murky with taxes and stuff like that. It's not very clean. That makes sense. No. So BP gives us a quote. We tell the
owner of the property the quote. They write us a check and then we So we're the middleman essentially. Yeah. Yeah. We don't make We don't make money. We don't If they're going to do one sign at a time. Yeah. We're just We're just an avenue for them to get it essentially.
Right. Because the business deal is between the maker of the sign and the homeowner. And we we just say yes, it meets historically it meets the unless it was town property. Unless it's town property, but even at that we said yes,
it meets the criteria. We can buy for town property because we're we're the town, right? But she did check with another company, Baker Sign Works. And hold on
to your seats on this one. $8,000. What time do they do? Um they're they're from Fall River. The setup charge is $42.50. Um she gave three options. One was you brought your sign already to
be ready to be um lettered for the tune of $190. The lettering to do a custom cut on PVC um painted ovals with vinyl lettering
$570. I am the wrong Do they do the markers for Fall River buildings and how I don't know. She just found this one. So, how big is it? How big is she gave showed them dimensions of our sign?
$500. So, she priced it in three ways. Just the vinyl applied to the plaques you provide and custom plaques with um 3/4 inch PVC and then 3/4 inch wood composite custom plaques. Here's a
loner. So, there's that. Um, so what was option three? I was wood. It was the wood sign at 420. So this is becoming another project that goes on
and on and on. I mean, what does what does Somerset do? What does Swansea do? What does I reached out? Swansea uses painted the one from Norton fast sign. It's a bronze look. They didn't go. So it looks like, you
know, I haven't seen Swanson in person. Now I'm thinking about it. That's what the chairperson of their historical society told me. I've seen Warren in person. I've seen uh that's the one that's very simple,
isn't it? I like I I like Westport um email and they never responded. See like this is like the stuff I make. Like literally that's all it is. Wood and vinyl. The good the only thing is that how long
would that last outside? So um we that's the only thing I'll be thinking to be called buddy. So, so my husband after I did this actually put a a thing for like on top like a shellac
like a like a simp like a good shellac though, not like a cheapo. And literally just did it and my cousin's had it on her house for I want to say about six and a half months, seven months. Lasted over the
winter. I'm just saying. Are you going back at the sign business again? That's just I do this talk about want to cut the letters. I mean this is I mean I the only problem is is that you have to buy the reach out to I don't know you
can't just buy like dollar store a war in historical a lot of historical societies usually do this what do you know how so because I work at Swansea schools do you know happens to know like how often Warren's I mean I mean if you want I don't mind going to their town hall
that's going to be 10 minutes like oh you want to go you want to take care of Warren only because I I work right there I'm Right. It's literally 10 minutes for me to get a warrant from from school. So, unless So, should I go to their town hall or should I find out their historical society?
Start at town hall. Town hall. I would call them first. I'll try Westport again. Was it Which one, Raf? Was it from Norton Fast Signs that Swansea used? I've heard I've heard of that company. Norton fast signs. I didn't know it's just ones I used, but I do
know this. Did you ever hear from the one from Plymouth? No, they never got back to you. They're not interested. Oh, they I think they prefer like really like bulk orders or Uhhuh. really big
signs, not minuscule. Yeah. Or not like or not oneoffs. Maybe not a size, but oneoff kind of. Yeah. Like one at a time. Yeah. I mean, I kind of get this kind of get that. I guess that would be the question then. Um maybe we're going about the wrong way in that sense. If we
have five signs that have to be made, what can you do for us and we just hold them all until we get I think that might even be Well, we have I'm going to wait for micros. Yeah. But what have you tried Dr. I know they're not a vocational school, but they must
have carpentry still, right? Dr. That's That's what I'm talking about. Dr. Micros. Oh, it's a school. I said it was BP and you said yes. BP. Yeah. Yeah, carpentry. I know that they've had they've had vocational over the years. I know it's scaled down, but they do have
some. It's not a vocational school, but they have they do have some kind of They have a small mechanic. They have a small I don't know what they have anymore, but I do know at one point they had wood shop type of things. That's all that I know. But this is 25 15 years ago. Oh,
well. But I just know that they used to have some kind of vocational program. They used to have a vocational. They do have a They still do. They do have a carpentry program there. Yeah, it's small, but it's still there. They I think you would run into the same problem. They may not have the machine
to do the graphic designs on it for it. Build I think it's got to have BP has got to have graphic design. Podium. Can they build podium like that? Yeah. Old Colony had the graphic design. They just didn't have the machine for that. So, what about diamonds?
It's another vocational. Yeah. What about Yeah. I don't know. Diamond vocational. Yeah. I'm not going to go that far. Dangerous city. Yes, it is. Don't go past. Well, keep looking for um I will reach
out to Westport. Zach's going to reach out to Warren. You know what? I'm I'm gonna check artificial intelligence if they can. Create a historical marker threedimensional. Are you combining? Are you combining AI and 3D printing?
Because Okay, sure. Why not? All right. Because we have two for Chase Street. We have one for Oldtown Hall. We wanted to make one for Smith Memorial Hall. It's four. It's four.
Paul Reynolds. Well, he's in a new house now. This building. But I think his house is historical. Okay. Would you put one here? Yeah. This is old town hall. Oh, I'm sorry. I mean the library. Sorry. The library.
What about that woman whose tree just got fell down? Beat. What's her name? Lincoln. Rachel. Syndrome. No. Rachel something. Uh, no. Lorna's neighbor. Lorna's neighbor. Laura's neighbor.
Yes, she had this big humongous beach tree. Yeah, I know. Birch. So 155 years old. She counted the rings. I know. That's I know. So some of those houses along there are historic because they were on the Lincoln A area form. They should have a marker period and a
discussion. Well, what are you going to do? What if What if you didn't live there? I don't care. Let's create an executive order. Oh, they must. Yes, everybody must. Everybody must. All right, let's keep
working on that. I guess I'd like to get that one off and running again. It's too bad that Peach Sign Company went out of business. Perfect. So, anyway, um Weston survey. So, the Weston survey is completed.
Yay. The owners of the poor of the poor farm address at 1301 Smith Street would didn't answer any of our requests. we couldn't schedule in, you know, for current photos. So Stacy ended up using a photo from the assessor's office from
about 2012 on it. I said, "How did it look?" Huh? How did it look in the picture? It looked okay. 2012. How accurate is it to look? Modern. Modern. Okay. Well, how accurate is it to how it looks now? Is it is it I think it's probably pretty much the same.
um because she wanted to go down there is right away, but it appeared to be you know like you know going on to um private property. So we tried to get the permission of the owners to you know at least so they know how come someone's walking down their lane and taking
pictures and um were they not receptive or they didn't they just never responded at first we tried to schedule and there was like oh that time didn't work it just didn't work and then it was like no response. So, so there was initial contact at first. Initial. Yeah. But so
anyway, um she sent the invoice for um $2,500. And um originally she had quoted us 3,500, but she took a,000 off because she's done had a lot of the background stuff
for Dyon already. So we saved $1,000. And so I just need a motion to forward the invoice to CPC for payment. Some move. Is there a second? Second. All in favor? Any discussion? All in favor? I I Okay. Now
I have the survey forms and I need to print three color copies. One will be for us, one for the assessor's office, and one to go into the um the town clerks into the vault.
Um so I can get that done. So I would like a motion to print three color copies of the Weston survey forms. It's about 105 pages and I figure I don't want it to exceed $85. What are you putting them in? Do we have
We have binders. Fair enough. Um, we might need a couple more, but I think there's room in the binders that we have, but we probably I was just asking because that was another You said mentioned buying office supplies. So, just mentioning that. Yeah. Yeah. Um, we can go back and visit that in a
minute. Yeah. Um, so the $85 just the printing, it would be the further printing of the um it wouldn't exceed that. But I think it would be a little less if my calculations are correct. Backing up to
your invoice. Don't we need to sign that if you're going to submit payment? No. Okay. No, because it's for the CPC to pay. We are we're not paying it. Gotcha. So, I'll just get that to Kevin. Good point, though. Well, no. I thought it
was details. Details like that. Yeah. All right. Um, I'll entertain a motion to print three color copies of the West Titan survey forms not to exceed $85. So move. Is there a second? Second. All in favor? I.
Okay. So, next is the Mountain Hope Finishing Company National Register nomination. And Stacy's still um holding off on that. I just wanted to bring that up. So, the cuts to the National Park Service are included in the federal
government's FY26 um budget, and it does contain some significant cuts for historic preservation and staffing, which will affect the National Register nomination
reviews. Um, not surprised, but yeah, I mean, we can sit and hold on that. Um, I'll make sure the CPC knows cuz that's their money that we're using for that that you know it's kind of like well maybe we should proceed and then it's ready when
they start reviewing it's there and then it's like but if it's going to take 10 years I'm going to go back and redo it now we got to pay again then you have to pay again. Exactly. Prices go up or whatever or the That's too bad. So I think we'll just wait and see how the budget lands and then make a decision
after that. Yeah. Um CPC, we met on March 20th and April 17th. They voted um an application for funding for the historical society to
repair the south wall for $18,500. And it also approved a funding request from Parks and Wreck of 67,000 $67,000 to upgrade the Timothy Ryan's playground on Palmer Street and School Lane.
Um there was a discussion with the library building committee regarding the funding from CPC for the um HVAC and historic preservation there. So, it's mainly for the HVAC, but it can be used for anything considered historic preservation given the wording on the
town um warrant article. So, the funding is going to be used for HVAC, period lighting, woodwork, and some bathroom um rehabs. And then the CPC did their little housekeeping articles for the annual
town reading for annual revenues. Um the wording for the historical society project and the Timothy Ryan's playground project. I drove by that little playground. It is cute as I remember. What up are they doing? They're putting
in new equipment for um us the younger kids um toddler to like five six year olds though the slide is still in good shape there. Really? Yeah. Oh wow. I loved that. I'm I'm not saying to be facitious. Are they doing a sign? Yeah,
they'll do a sign. Yeah. Yep. I assume that they were. I was if they had already. Yeah. Not not yet. Um they're not meeting in May. They'll meet in June again. So, the library building project is ahead of schedule. Um, anticipated opening, as we've talked about, is
September of 2025. The project is within budget. The interior lighting and flooring has been selected. The highway department is doing some of the interior work. They do marvelous, marvelous. Oh my god, there they don't get enough credit this summer. The red cedar shingles will be
sealed, not painted, will just be sealed. Good. I was hoping so. And the plans are being developed for the exterior landscape and parking. Okay. Outdoor lighting will be mounted on the building. It'll have timers because there's some neighbors right close there
so it doesn't shine into their windows. The next meeting for them for that committee is June 12th. So the America's 250th anniversary. Um, we've received donations of $5,500 so far to put towards um 4,000 to
put towards the living um history encampment. That's awesome. The Rhovas Minutemen are working with us to put on the encampment. We're still searching for a site. Do you guys think that'll be the biggest biggest expense? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, maybe we're also doing a a Revolutionary
War monument to go out on the veteran circle. I thought they already had a lot of the granite for that. So, I thought someone mentioned that. Yeah, there's granite at the Yeah, we have granite in town that we can use. So, the expense would be just the labor labor and the bronze plaque on it, which are more
expensive than you think. Yeah. No, yeah, I'm not saying I just um it won't list all of the soldiers names because we don't want to miss anybody. Um how many would there be? How about that?
of I around 300. Yeah. So, the Lives and Fortunes book that the historical society has is a listing of all, not all of Revolutionary War soldiers. That listing actually comes from the Massachusetts um sailors and soldiers book.
Um some of them are duplicates in there, but there's actually some um people that were missing and they're actually missed. Um, it's because in the original listing from the Mass Sailors and Soldiers book, there was no location, but Robin and I have been working on
trying to find them, and I'm like, we know, so we we can do the genealogy, know that that's the right guy. And he was in Don. Um, there is another um soldier we found who actually was from Freetown, enlisted in Freetown, but he
is buried here in Don, and he did live in Don at the end of his life. as wise, you know. So, um, but it's kind of interesting. So, that that'll be a big expense, too. That's cool. Oh, we're selling candy bars. Helps candy. Yes. Let me know.
I will buy three bars. I'm going to be honest with you. It's my favorite chocolate. Can you buy bulk of one flavor? Well, that peanut butter one. I have no problem spending $20. Live off that because literally I come to the next meeting. you let me know. And I had
one here and there like when I thought of it and I was like, "Well, I need chocolate." Oh, yeah. I have some. I shared two bars and the rest was hidden for a while. I wouldn't have sold even those two.
I wouldn't have one to Oh, family. Okay. Frank was not uh I mean Jacob was not free to it because he was a bad boy sweating. Um we'll haveformational tables at the couch festival and the strawberry
festival. We're selling Dyon militia certificates. So if you want to join the militia, you can. And we're have some some children's games. Joan Rene's working on getting some children's games. Um, and of course everyone I hope is aware of the Ezra
Styles presentation on June 14th at the community church. There'll be a reading of the Declaration of Independence on July 4th at the Community Church and we meet again on May 19th. So when's the Strawberry Festival?
June 7th. Yeah. Oh, so my god. Yes. Are we having a table? I know last year commissioned in I I couldn't go but didn't No, the firecracker. Yeah, the firecracker. Yeah. So,
um to circle back to the budget thing, I found my little stickies. I figure after the G um the GIS mapping and the printing will have $531. And I was thinking to order for
office supplies like the Avery multi-page um capacity for archival sheets to hold bulk things. Some big tabs for the notebook. They just don't get lost. They're they're bigger than these um little yellow yellow ones. And
maybe two notebooks. Are we going to need thumb drives to store um preserving memories on? I would say yes because then we own them. Like if I were
to use mine, I don't mind. But then that becomes like if I lose it or you can get it. I They're So I mean back when I was like in middle school, it was like 50 bucks for like the smallest one. They're so they're dirt cheap now. Yeah. I Yeah,
we buy them for the town clerk's office and it's like 28 bucks or whatever. WB Mason. Okay. Um, right. That was cheap. Do you So, I guess more of a question for you. Thumb drive or external hard
drive? Thumb drive. That was No, no, I know the difference, but do you think it would be better for us to have an external hard drive? Like if we do if we do video components, we're going to take up more space. Yeah, that's No, I know. I'm just Why don't we start with thumb drives and I mean they're cheap enough
that it won't matter but so I I would say it's 512 size megabytes what you get. You know what size you guys get? Um yeah it was uh it was actually quite a bit. It was I think 56. How much? 56 g
gigabytes maybe. 64 maybe. Yes. Oh if you get two one would be fine. two would be more than fine. So I was the 64. So if they're that cheap and I can look Pat I can look to um see how much we paid. Okay. Just
so that way just come and get the um order number from you. Yeah. But yes, like I said I I said I have some but then again then at least we as a town owner as opposed to some you know it's from you. Yeah. Right. And it's town it's town prop. It's literally sort on town property at that point. So yes I
would say. All right. Um, does anyone have a problem with ordering those things? All right, I'll have a motion to make the orders as presented. So motion is there. All in favor? I
Okay. Are you voting rapper? Mhm. Okay. He's taking minutes. Oh, Dan just sent me a text message. What are you guys doing for two hours? Rewriting history. Yes. I move quickly. Our next trying to our next meeting date is June 10th. We had
talked about meeting at the police conference, you know, uh police station conference room. Um I think for ease of scheduling and technology right now, I think it's best if we just stay here. Um doesn't matter. It's just easier to for the There's no zone at the police
station. Yeah. You can't look back. Can't look back. Okay. In that case, I motion that we just to make Robin's life miserable. Denied. For the record, I'm kidding. So, I had a email from Nancy Gulad about purchasing
three town flags. They're designed by Kathy Yel. It's this one. This is flag that she designed. I'm not sure where this stands right now. She asked if we had money in our budget to pay to buy one. Is that the official one? That's the one that hangs in a state house, too, right? That's the official. Yes,
that's the official one. The cost would be about $130. One would be at Bristol Aggie and two others for use in town. I will follow up with Nancy and see where this stands right now. Why should we have to us for that? They come out of our come out of our budget. Cultural council.
Don't they have money out of what? Cultural council because they only take applications. I don't know. So anyway, I said I would bring it forward. That's all I know about it right now. So why did she like why did she ask us? Because she didn't think the board of selectmen
would foot the whole bill, but Oh, I didn't want us to help pay for them. Oh, okay. I thought she was going We did that in order flags. But I told her I would bring it up. I don't know where it stands right now. And so we can um How many does the town have? Do we even We
don't have that one. We don't We don't have We don't have one hanging at town hall. No, I think that's the only that was the one hanging in the old town. Yeah, I mean it's mostly here because like typ I mean like when I see flags online typically they're wherever like some towns have them hang on side but
like not all do and if they have one it's in their meeting room like this one is so needs to be updated. No, no, no. That is the right one. That's the one. That That's the right one with the right seal. Yeah, but there
were seven Indians. Well, that's the way the town that's the way it was designed. So, so many towns have changed their seals and their flags and cousins, stuff like that, right? So, anyway, um for this I'll just see what where this stands and bring it back next
time. Our US intern Samantha Shecker finished her internship on April 29th. She completed the house genealogy for the Nat Crane House and some information on the town of Wellington. Really? Well,
because why is that? Like why is that? Well, because as we were researching Matt Crane, Nathaniel Crane, he died in Wellington when it was called Wellington. And I was trying to figure out we found out that that side of Ced
Santa was Wellington. Yep. That's Wellington. And actually the town of Wellington starts at the segregate rivermouth down here kind of like goes to the second bridge goes p uh goes up Brook Street one side of Brook Street and where um Mary
Bennett's house was is Wellington the other side is Dyon. So it actually encompassed like two-fifths of the town and there's one census the 1820 census has the town of Wellington in it and the town of Dyon. I wondered what year I've
always tried to find it and never knew what year. Yes, the 1821 does. 1821 1820. So, we put it together, you know. So, that kind of like joged something there and trying to look at the different maps. So, she put together
information on that. And then I was looking at something else. There was also something that happened in 1824. and Rafa um the description that you found of Wellington that day gave the legal description of the town you know
so that's how we knew where it started at the mouth of the seancit river it went along all the way up like Brook Street and Wellington Street to the Rehobath line the Rahobit line to to um to Taton then it follows
the Taton Dyon line all the way back to the great river, which is the Taton River, and that's how it described it there. And then I found the um same legislation um thing that dissolved the
town. But in 1824, there looks like there was a a Titan Wellington annex or something. I found this after. I wasn't even looking for it and it pops up and I said, "Oh, there's something else that happened with Wellington and I can't find it yet."
Um, so she put that together. You know, we included the census. That's how the top half of Wellington, the articles and the uh a copy of the brick area because um the brick area was part of Wellington parts
of it. So then she did the we worked on the Nat Crane House. The interesting thing about the Nat Crane house is we couldn't find that he ever owned that house. There was no deed that said he owned
it. George Washington Briggs sells. We found the deed that says George Washington Briggs sells the house to Hilda Horton, who is Simeon Horton's wife. The Hortons live there. I'll show you the timeline. This is I found this
fascinating. She did all this. Yes. Like like like we I kind of helped her with some of the research and stuff. I mean the expert of the buying. Yeah. That's awesome. So 1811 Joseph Atwood owns it. He sells it to George Washington
Briggs. George Washington Briggs sells it to Holda Horton. Hold. It stays in the Horton family. Simeon Horton. Somehow she buys it. This is really irritates me. She buys it. All of a
sudden sudden it's in his name. Her husband Solomon sells it to their son. I'm like, how come she didn't sell it? Right. You know, but then they sell it to his son in 18. No. Yeah. Like really? Husband just took over. He just took
over. Can you imagine? So Simeon Horton, the son owns it. And that's S. Horton on all of the maps. all the way owners. So, Hortons, Horton, Hortons, and then it goes to Adriana
French. That is Sime um Simeian and Hilda Horton's daughter. So, her brother owns the property. I couldn't find a deed or a will that transfers it to Adriana French. So that's kind of a question
that still has to be answered because she shows up on the 1895 map as owning it, but never but no record of the sale. 1928, Addie Moer is her daughter, her
daughter. In that deed, it says through the will of her mother. So the will does exist somewhere. And then it goes to Ella Harrison to Bill Harrison then to Bristol Aggie. So from
1840 all the way to when Bill Harrison dies and his state sells it to Bristol Aggie. It stays in the Horton family. It never cr No, I can't f one deed mentions the
boundary that owned by Nath Nathaniel to it. He lived he he did live there. He shows up in this census. He never owned it. He just never owned it. So we found deed. It's crazy, right? That's funny. Yeah.
We didn't put a plaque on that house. Yeah. That crane house. Uhuh. Oops. So, and there's, you know, they're decent. I know. It's like crazy. It should be. So, what should the name be?
Horton French. Horton, the Horton family home, you know, maybe back then did they calling it someone's home, did it not necessarily mean you owned it? I don't know if he but he was known for living there and he did live there. He did die there, you know, and he he farmed. It
was a farm. They all farmed it. So, it kind of answers the questions that Bristol Aggie had about the property, you know. So, I I do want to share this with them. So, nice from the map. So, I've only seen one map showing
Wellington and I believe it was posted under the back in the day ind page, right? And the outline looks different than that. It that's the actual that's that is that's Yeah, because it goes they follow the segregate river on on
that one. They do. Yeah, but it's more of like a jagged shape. It's not so much a square like that. So, but that's my question like about the 1824 reference that I found that I haven't found any more information about because the lines could have changed again.
Okay. But it came back together because of But it's like what? It's like a north and south thing essentially. Is that center street? That's Brook Street. Oh, that's Brook Street. Yeah. So, it's like pretty much equally. That makes more sense. like you would cut it in half as opposed to like this weird
like jagged. So that was really interesting and it was my favorite thing to work on because I like research, you know. So a little a little somewhat off topic. When when did stop including that part of Berkeley and
his town first? Oh 1835 Berkeley leaves. Yeah. Oh, that recently. Yeah. Wow. No, 1735. Oh, okay. Okay. It was 35. I would um the mass history conference is June
2nd out at UMass Amherst. Um though I did there are our sessions there. I don't know it none of them look really appealing. I don't know if anyone I have a conference I uh somewhere the
town one. Yeah. Really? I was kidding but another one that area again. No Plymouth this time. Not the Fort. Yeah. So, this has um winter digital stuff, connecting and caring in the classroom through oral
history, black sport and community healing, caring and connecting outside the museum walls. Um, how Massachusetts fire shaped modern fire and life safety policies. Um, what's the digital one?
The digital one was handling born digital materials. It's with the MASH Rob people and they spoke last time too. The oral history was the one that really I'm kidding but like actually is relevant to kind of what we're talking
um but that's the history of strawberries and Moheaggan culture cooking and demo lecture. Is there a seminar? Not that kind of I go I go to I go to a conference on you go to a conference on
trade lady. So the registration is open. I don't know. I can't go on June 2nd. How much was it? $125 to go. Are we coming budget? Yeah. I mean, if
it was more than just the orchestra one does sound interesting, but to go that all that way and just that it's a long way and that's if that's the only one that kind of sounds interesting to me. I mean, I don't think it's worth spending for me anyway. Any 100 bucks on that monster wants to obviously, but that's not one that piques my interest, but I I
think you could probably do better. Not for a two-hour ride. Okay. Um, the beta group sent us, I scanned it and sent everyone the thing on the bridge on Pleasant Street and I found we did respond to them in 2022 and
we voted that the bridge was not historically significant. I don't think we have to respond again to that. Um, and we're all set. Okay. This El McInness request, I got an email. She's looking for a certificate
for her mother who just turned 100 in May and but we have the Boston Post um cane program. I talked with Bella. I said, "Does this belong at the Council on Aging honoring people who turn 100?"
Every in with my conversation with Bella, I realized people think because someone turns 100 that means they're eligible to receive the Boston Post cane. And I explained to her, I said, "No, it stays with the person who is
still alive until they pass and then it goes to the next oldest." No, it's not a centennial. Why is there all of a sudden this misunderstanding? Do some towns do that? Never was before. Or do I have a similar thing? Not I don't know if people do
similar things, but we get the town gets requests for people that are 100. We did her certificate for Mary Rebello. We did one for Raymond Trip. We meaning the commission or the commission. We did for
Mary Rebello and we did one for Raymond. Richmond trip. Yeah. And then um there was one for Hilda Rosendi. We didn't do one for her. I don't think we should be doing any kind of 100 certificates because our program is the Boston Post
came right. Yeah. then like why did you do so and so and not so and so adding something just because I don't know if this is something the council on aging I know you're now on that um board if they want to talk about and take on seems appropriate for them
like a congratulations you 100 I sorry I can forward you the email congratulations started a precedence by doing it for the one that we did it for because they just kept saying, "Oh, right. We want it. We want it. We want it." And then they went away for a while
and come back and said, "We should have that both, you know, and so they were adamant." So what we did was to sort of appease them. So that's what happens when you try to be nice and somebody. Yeah. If you don't want to go into reason publicly, that's fine. How come you said there was someone that we
didn't do the certificate for? Was there a reason for it? You said there was a name that you mentioned. I didn't hear who it was. It was Hilda Roseni. Was there a reason why? We just because we do the Boston Post came, right? So then at that point it's like we did two but not her. Then it's like we do so and so but not so and so. Then we do the next
three but not the next four. It's like it's if that was our thing then we should be consistent but it's not our thing. So Right. Exactly. It's not our thing. It was never our thing then. Right. I can understand I can understand the confusion by people thinking that we're the one but let's send them elsewhere.
Right. Not elsewhere but give them the more I thought about it. as a kid. It doesn't belong on our plate. Why? Why would it? Because we're because if we're the longest living in Dyton resident, that would be a different story. Like if you had we have
one of those, right? Is still with us. But like if you moved to Dyon last year and turned 100, it's like, well, okay. No, now it's that that's different. You know what I mean? So it wouldn't be sort of commission thing. Bella, when I was talking to Bella, she says that's a problem because even you don't even know
who's 100 because people are moving in to live with their kids. Someone can move in tomorrow who's 100, right? Well, we know who's 100 because we go to the town clerk's office, right, and provides us with a list of but that but that you're right that could change tomorrow and voting preferences. We also get to
know their voting preferences. Okay. Mhm. So, I can email it to you if the Council on Aging wants to address it. Or did this woman get in touch with you directly? Or was she emailed me? Yeah. Really? I wonder why because I think she
got my email from um I'm think of selectman's office. Oh, that's not where I was going. It's not where I was going. No. So, go ahead. All right. I'll do that. Thank you. There you go. And our policy, we will just have to
stick by our policy and our Boston cane does have length of residence in it. Right. So that and that's more relevant to the historical commission as opposed to I think it's I think that's something that fits the definition not like council on Asian whatever the mission
statement is. That seems very fitting to what they I I would think that they would do. Right. And um we'll just keep clarifying that it's the oldest living person and we still have hours. We will notify people when we don't have
hours. So all right, I think we've covered everything. Thank you for your patience. His last question. The garden. The garden. Yeah. I mean the garden with the expensive sign that we had to put on table people to give us everything else.
Is there anything going on in there? I don't think so, but I'm asking. I don't have no clue. Oh, so nobody said nothing. So, let's assume there's nothing going on in there. Is that a part of the parks and wreck? I think so. I think I think I would
think so. Cultural board, whatever. Um, yeah. That's probably probably more than the parks and wreck is my guess. It's a garden. It's probably more than the parks and wreck. Do you want me to stir controversy about Facebook? I can do that. No. No. No. Is there stir enough controversy?
No. Don't tell him no. Don't tell him no cuz now he will. I don't know. I had to school him on something. Okay. So, he's going to listen to you. Good one. Yeah. Go
to not do something. All right. I have no clue. So, anyway, um motion to adjurnn. All right. Is there a second? All in favor and we are adjourned and let me the
longest we've had I would say