Good afternoon everyone. This is regular monthly meeting storm water committee. It's Wednesday, November 19th. calling to order at 1:02 p.m. We are in the upper level meeting room
at Town Hall, Old Town Hall, 11-11 Summers Avenue, Dyon. This is a public meeting being being video and audio recorded for posting on YouTube. Please stand for the pledge. I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Attendance roll call. >> David Phillips here. Here
>> Perry here. >> Dan Higgins here. >> Nancy Gulot here. 4A old business update on Hen Street map 10 lots 2829 and 29-2. These are the three homes that are being
constructed on Wharton Street. Um, have you been up there since we did that last site visit, Tom? >> Yes. >> And how's how are things looking? >> Progressing quite a bit. They got the
loom down on the site. Uh, the front basins are stabilized with that mesh stuff. You know, they seated it, got the mesh down. It's been through with two good rain events. Everything's stabilized. It's
>> working well. silks below the outflows of the pipes or the inflow of the pipes. All the silver any silk in the basins are below it. >> But I see Lisa, sorry, >> Lisa. >> I have been back there since we were
there the last time. Actually, I went to go look at the area that they disturbed in the back in the proper zone and um I was there when the contractor was seating that. But other than that, um I haven't received any complaints or
anything either, but um nothing else. >> Okay. Uh I saw one foundation uh are they have they done anything with the other foundations yet? >> I I don't know about the one in the middle. There is some activity back there. They make that might be what they're working on, but
>> Okay. Um I'm still waiting for the wording for the permits from Weston and Samson. Um everything got approved uh and the property owner paid the money to pay for engineering services. Uh and that
account has been set up. Um I told Mr. Reen that if he drafts the permit, if he drafts one of them, I'll help him with it, then the other two will just flow from it. So I will check with him to find out where he is with the uh wording
for the permits. he had already done the proposal on what he needs to do. Um >> so because in lie of time going by would you need a vote for that to move forward and would you want one pending
that the conditions to be solidified? >> Yeah. >> So not holding anything up. >> I think that would probably make sense. Um, we could vote to approve three three projects.
Um, three projects because they're going to be three permits obviously. Um, contingent on uh final wording approval on the permits.
>> Final conditions. When I say final, that means we get it from Weston and Samson. We get a chance to look at it. It makes sense and I can pass it on to the board of health and say, "Please issue these." They've already been paid for and everything. I'm only waiting for for that.
>> So, is there a motion to that effect? >> So moved. Second. >> Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? >> I I >> I did you vote, Dad? I did. >> Okay. Thank you. Now you you have to
speak up. You can't be like Mr. Barry. >> Uh agenda item 4B. This project uh on Sunny's Way was something that the property owner requested permission to do uh to alleviate flooding uh accumulation of
rainwater and who knows what else uh in his backyard and on surrounding areas. So um we did do a site visit there uh and he had discussed with Mr. very what it was he wanted to do. Everything was
approved. Uh my understanding is the work is completed and he requested that we give him something in writing indicating that the storm water permit uh has been closed out. You have any final words on
this one, Tom? Everything went okay? >> Working well. Yes, >> working well. Okay. So, I need a motion to close out the storm water permit for 102 Sunny's Way. >> Can we have a little discussion?
>> Oh, well, if I get a motion in a second, we'll have discussion. >> Go ahead. >> So, moved. >> I'll second >> discussion. >> Yeah. Um so the plantings that were planted in the back as far as in the um
area of disturbance in the buffer zone we just um I think we should just at least wait typically wait like two years so like several growing seasons out to make sure that the plants have survived.
Um, in this case, I think it would just be u good for us to follow up with him in the spring to see how things are looking and ask for some photos. But other than that, I don't have any problems with any of this. >> But are the plantings storm water or are they concom? We didn't require
plantings. >> Um, it's concom >> I remember that. >> Okay. Um, >> we worked with the owner. >> Okay. Two years to me is a long period of time. The gentleman that built the
house way way off of Orton Street, we he and he had a lot of disturbance, built a bridge and trees and he planted lots of stuff. We we did it a year later. So, um I think a year
if the committee's amendable is a reasonable time period. Uh furthermore, if during a year we're out there looking at things or you go out and look at and these things are dead, then he's got to replant them anyhow. Um >> yeah, I mean, as long as we just are
>> in agreement about that, I think that should be fine. He he's worked with us the whole time. Yeah, I was just going to say he's a he >> does work right right with us. >> I don't see a problem with him at all. Actually,
can I just ask for my benefits since I wasn't here? I do recall this from him appearing before the planning board, but I don't know what the situation is here. Was it that it was decided he needed a storm water permit and this is closing it out or that one was not needed but he's just asking for something in
writing to say I have worked with you I have complied with you with your recommendations and >> as I remember his it was a really the whole question was about try tying into the drainage system that was up there >> and so that's why he went to Tom
and Tom brought it to us and so that's why we did the site visit Uh >> it was to alleviate water and yeah. >> So but was he technically issued a storm water permit or >> I think it was done I not because of
disturbance but I think there was a combination of things that he requested permission uh from the town >> ahead of time. >> Okay. >> As opposed to doing it and then saying oh >> t us without without proper procedure.
Uh I don't I don't think he disturbed 35,000 square feet. I think the whole thing was related to connecting into the town system. And weren't there some neighbors? He was also by putting this in he was going to help some neighbors too because that this water that was
seemed to be mostly in his yard also went onto other properties. So he took it upon himself to I'll say solve the problem at his own expense. Right. All right. Um, so if we get that motion,
I can withdraw your second. Just say you withdraw the second. >> I'll withdraw the second. >> You withdraw the motion. >> I withdraw the motion. >> Gone. Okay. So then I would ask for a motion to notify uh the property owner at 102
Sunny's Way that the storm water committee voted tenatively to close the storm water permit for this project and that and that a final review will
And that and that final action will be one year. Pending medication planting survive something to that effect. Uh final action will be one year following completion
to provide time for vegetation to succeed. All right. So that he's going to get this letter because he asked for something. So we will give him that. Um and then um make a note
somewhere uh a year from now or let's say October um this will come up again. But I will tell anyone if you happen to go out there and Lisa if the vegetation that you're talking about is
not taking root, he needs to be notified. The same thing Tom if you go out there and you know if everything is croaked. Um just let him know or or say are you in the process of replanting that. All right. This this tells him he's he's got we're going to wait a year
because that's what we gave the other man. And uh and like I said, he had much more disturbance, but um it gives him a year to kind of keep an eye on things and and it emphasizes the importance of having the vegetation there to keep
things stable. So any discussion? Okay. So I have a motion >> motion to be moved forward. >> All right. No, the motion is the motion I need is uh stormwater committee voting to
tenatively close the storm water permit for this project and that final action will be one year following completion following completion to provide time for vegetation to succeed. That's the
motion. >> So moved. >> I have a second. >> Second >> discussion hearing none. All in favor? >> I >> I >> I All right. So, I'll draft another letter and get it down to your office, Tom.
>> And if you could also follow up with us. >> Yeah. In the summer. I'm sure you will. >> Okay. All right. I got you CC on this letter anyhow. Um I a new business 2026 calendars uh as of
a few minutes ago and I looked at the last um draft from BP the calendars if they haven't already started printing them they should be doing it. I asked for
200 before they close school next week. The total order is 600. If I can get 200, I will have them for or whatever I can get my hands on, I will have for lights on uh the Saturday after Christmas and then um if I don't
get the if they're not already by then, which is fine, I will pick up the rest and they will be available in all town buildings. Uh and I mean every building, police, fire, highway, um the two post offices and the two banks and we will
get them out. Uh we have a very good variety of photographs. We have uh a good number of photographers
uh and we have I'm thinking at least four new I'll call them photographers. Um, and one of the pictures is actually a
stormwater forbe from a project on Richmond Hill. And that was it was submitted as part of the weekly reports for that project. And when I saw it, uh
obviously it's not a big vista scene, but it is a very good picture of a storm water bay with um uh runoff control and the bay has has stone and rip wrap in it and its grass and
it's really uh a good example of a storm water system. and that was submitted by the uh construction inspector. So anyhow, uh the the pictures are um obviously all
in town. Very very interesting in one case weather phenomena um wildlife uh scenic pictures. Uh but anyhow um
uh hopefully um we will have them for that. if they're not here, if I don't have anything to give out on lights on for whatever reason, they will be out as soon as I get them after that. Um, but it was very good. I'm looking for pictures already. I should say we are uh
if anyone has pictures uh and no buildings, no people. And we prefer the horizontal picture, landscape pictures, because if the picture comes
in and it's portrait, it has to be squished because obviously the calendar is horizontal and when you squish the vertical picture, you have distortion. Uh so that's very important. Uh but
anyhow, I'm going to keep announcing that now. Uh what Heather and I talked about was that if possible, so we're going to try to get pictures to BP before they close in June. If we at least have the pictures, most of the
pictures all set, they get the grid or they set up the grid and it's just a matter of me looking at it and comparing it to a future calendar and marking it up uh with with things that are important to Dayton like cow chip and
the town's birthday and um whatever else may come out. I did add this year uh for next I should say I added to 2026 um Medal of Honor Day which is in August
and the Purple Hot Day which we just commemorated. So, uh, that's something that it's, uh, the events. We're getting Purple Heart now, just been approved. And of course,
we know the purple the Medal of Honor has been around for a while, but uh, we just want to put that in there. Um, number six, unanticipated items. Mr. Ferry, if you will remember when you
welcomed our new member, Mr. Higgins, last month, and you gave him all that good stuff, the brochures and all that, and he was told he was going to be tested on it. Are you prepared to give him a test?
>> Say no. >> Unanticipated. >> Yes. >> This would be unanticipated. >> Very much as in surprise. He gets 30 days to do this. >> You're the test master.
>> So, this is one of the brochures that we hand out also. But it it is a quiz. So, it makes sense that it actually helps you when you're sitting. >> Okay. Moving forward, some key things will pop out at you and also your other.
And it's from the EPA. It's one of the educational components, right? It's a fun thing actually. >> If you do well, you may even hang it up. >> Or or you frame it and put it on the refrigerator like you do with your kids
stuff. You don't get all that stuff stuck there somewhere. So, good luck. And if you have any difficulty, Mr. Ferry is the expert on that. Okay. Public input. So, Mrs. Bosle, if you want to come up.
One of the things that you asked about at the last meeting uh and I said I would get in touch with uh Jonathan Prasad uh dealt with um the the trees leaning um
water in the large basement uh that didn't completely drain within 72 hours. Uh I told him about the torrential rain that we had and that the
about the water and that the um some of the trees were leaning so forth so on. So I included all of that that's in these minutes um and asked him for an update at this meeting. Unfortunately,
the response I copied both I addressed it to Jonathan Prasad. I copied Tayaba Salem who is uh the attorney that handles she was there when when um Ahmed Hafz was there. Uh and she said, "Good
morning, Nancy." This was on uh November the 10th that she responded. Apologies for the delayed response. Has been out of the office longer than anticipated due to a medical emergency involving his wife while traveling in
Japan. Her condition remains critical and his return date is uncertain at this time. Excuse me. He has asked me to inform you he will not be able to attend the upcoming storm water meeting and will contact you when
he returns to provide an update on all outstanding items. With respect to production, the site remains in the commissioning phase. I'll send an update update should that process complete before Jonathan
returns. I haven't heard anything back from her. I just responded and said, uh, please, uh, express my best wishes to both Jonathan and his wife. I hope she makes a full recovery, returns home soon. I
haven't had a word. I don't know if he's in the country or not, but we we do know based on this, they aren't truly online in generating. They're in the commissioning stage, which I think is like a testing stage.
If commissioning to me means it's not fully they haven't they haven't got the blessing of national grid to say you're good to go and keep going. Uh I I think the commissioning may be taking longer
because we know there were problems that national grid alluded to because the equipment sat there idle for so long. So, so the answer is yes, they are in effect generating electricity, but it's not
fully up and running like our other solar farms are. So, um I didn't notify you not to come because I waited to see if I was going to get any information. So, your request is there. The information requested is
there. Uh Tama Salem is an, as I said, is an attorney. So responding to this is really not her turf. >> Uh I had I first was introduced to her when I was uh when they asked the third
time for a pilot agreement and when I said this is strike three. It's not going to go back again if you pull out this time. And that's how I got in they had her get in touch with me and assure me
we're ready to go. So, we know that this the uh pilot agreement passed. So, that was that. So, that's where we are with your request. >> Okay. And you don't know anything about the batteries or you don't >> nothing at all? >> At all. >> No. >> Okay. >> All right. I'm thinking there aren't
batteries there if it's still in the commissioning stage. And the other thought is um the I know I know the batteries are I'll say here because when Jonathan was still working for them I said to him by the
way where are the batteries because I had to have a exact up-to-date inventory list and I said to him in looking at the inventory list is this line for batteries because it
just didn't say you know AAA batteries. didn't identify something to me that would be batteries. And he said, "Yes." And I said, "Are they installed?" He said, "No." But I said, "Are they here?" He said, "Yeah, they're in storage."
So, wherever they are, I can assure you they're on the inventory list and they're paying personal property taxes on them. So, that's >> Well, there's somebody that goes back there to work on something. Oh. >> Oh, I would expect if it's if it if this thing is still under commissioning,
>> uh, there's got to be people working because without >> the final go-ahad from National Grid, if they've applied for um there's a program that they had talked about way back when where when they were trying to pressure
us to approve uh getting them online. This is over two years ago. Um, and I said to him, "No, you don't have to make that deadline. You don't even have to be in that program when you go live.
Existing solar farms that are not part of that program, excuse me, with the state can join anytime because there's a financial incentive for them to get into this program." So that ended that discussion. I
recently read that uh the budget I think it was the supplemental budget got approved at the state level included uh funding for this particular program because the minute I saw it I thought oh they're still
offering that program and obviously they're funding it so if they are still planning to apply for this uh nothing's going to happen until they get that final blessing from national grid so if it's being commissioned or still be in
the commissioning phase. I'm sure you're going to see people there. >> They're they're working around the batteries. I can just tell you that's where they're parking that, you know, >> I don't know exactly what it >> and I don't I don't really know. Um
I don't really know what commissioning involves. Uh but all I know is it's not final. >> Okay. >> So, >> all right. Well, thank you and have a nice holiday. You too. Thank you. >> Um, we'll continue to put this on the
agenda when, like I say, um, I hope everything works out okay. I hope she recovers. Uh, and I'm sure we'll hear from Mr. Prasad once things get resolved. I'll leave it at
that. Okay. All right. >> I have an update as far as Brook Street and the planting of back. >> Okay. Yeah, they did go. Um, from what I understand, they did the planting in the back. Dave and I went to uh, as far as conservation, they did the planting in
the back, I believe. >> Oh, Dave and I tried. >> When you say out back, you mean out near the woods. >> Then, yeah. >> Okay. >> In the buffer zone. They had cleared. They had gone outside their limit of work, you know, as approved. So, we
required them to do some restoration. and we tried to get in there. So, I just got the gate coat. Um, so I'm able to go out there. Me and Dave will go take a look probably next week at this point because we have a meeting tomorrow night. So, trying to get ready for that.
But, um, if I see any battery, I don't I don't know how to observe batteries, but if I hear anything, if we hear anything, we'll let you know. We'll take some photos while we're out there and stuff, but >> Okay. the
>> I mean we could walk that direction. >> Yeah. >> Well, if you walk to the south >> if you if you obviously enter through the gate and take the road to the right that goes all the way around the back past the forest that got cleared and everything.
Uh, the batteries are going to be on your left >> and they're on concrete platforms. And the best way for me to describe them is um, you remember how the old VCRs, they would sit underneath your television and
they looked like boxes, you know, rectangular boxes. The day we were out there, this is a number of years ago, um the racks were there that hold them and there were all these places that looked like you would load all these
VCRs, right? >> Oh, yes. >> Yes. So, >> um >> I'll look. >> Okay. >> It'll it'll be enclosed in a metal cover at this point, so >> Excuse me. >> Yeah, they're in a metal container. They
have, as I remember, they had doors or something. Yeah. That But >> the other thing, too, is anyone's out there working, feel free to ask. But if you, if you take some pictures, we'll have that, too. >> Nick asked if he wanted um if I wanted him to meet. It's not necessary that I
have him meet us to go look at the plants. We could look at them without him. But >> who wanted that? >> Nick asked. So Nick's still involved. >> Nick Fezenzola. >> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. Okay. All right. I did not pronounce his name correctly either.
>> Uh Fasinola. Well, that's another thing. If you see things and there are questions, we can always get in touch with him. >> Uh he can tell us technical stuff, >> right? >> Um >> so >> I forgot about Nick. >> Email him. >> Uh yeah, as a matter of fact, I think
I'll send him a uh email and say, Nick, explain commissioning to me. >> Right. >> Yeah. Um yeah, being the last engineer on site. Um that would be good. >> Okay.
>> Happy Thanksgiving. >> Thank you. Uh Dan, if you want to see I was going to say a functioning storm water uh set up in a
uh solo farm. Um >> I have been up to Brook Street. >> Have you? >> Yeah. >> Okay, fine. >> Since the latest >> since the last basin. >> Since the last basin was installed. So >> that's right. Because you had to approve it at Okay. All right. But anyhow,
uh, number 10, approval of minutes for October 15th. I have a motion to approve the minutes. >> Motion to approve the minutes from October 15th. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Discussion. Hearing none. All in favor? >> I
>> opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Uh, next meeting December the 17th. Um, depending upon what we have on the agenda that requires action. Um, I'm going to leave this meeting as it is right now, but in the past couple
of years, we've canled the December meeting because it wasn't uh, you know, enough to to have a meeting. And so we would skip December and go to January. But I'll see what we have. Check with Heather and Tom. And if we don't need a
December meeting, uh we'll post that there will be no December meeting. Okay. Before we adjourn, is there anything that anyone can think of that needs to be on the next agenda or that they might
have questions on about anything? I would like to ask for continuance. >> Oh, you have 30 days and and if uh I would just say to you if we don't meet in December, that gives you 60 days. >> And if we are going to meet in if the
only thing we have on the agenda is to grant you more time, we're not meeting in December. blame on treatment >> discrimination. >> Discrimination. >> He wants remediation, right? Got to go
over all that stuff again. >> I think Dave should have to take it, too. >> How's that? >> Well, just just just throw my name out there whenever you want. >> But but we don't want them working together on this test. That's cheating. That's
>> true. >> Okay. Is there a motion to adjourn? >> Motion to adjourn. Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> uh opposed. May adjourn. It looks like 12:30, excuse
me. Uh 1:36 p.m. >> Happy Thanksgiving everybody. >> Happy Thanksgiving. >> Happy Thanksgiving >> and merry Christmas if we aren't here. >> Dan, I want to give you a shout out. You're doing awesome on the planet board.
>> On the planet. >> Planet board. us. I hope Thank