Good afternoon everyone. This is the monthly meeting of the Dayton Storm Water Committee. It's Wednesday, January 21st. It is 1:11 p.m. We are in the upper level meeting room at the old town hall, 11-11 Summerr
Avenue in Dyon. This is a public meeting video and audio recorded for posting on YouTube. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Attendance. Lisa
>> here. >> Dan Higgins here. >> Nancy Gulot here. So we have a quorum. >> We have what? Five members. >> Excuse me. We have we have six members right now of a se member seven member
committee. So we have to have four present. So, we got four. >> Frank's a member though, right? >> Frank is a member. >> I am not. >> I'm actually not seeing your video is not working. >> We can hear you. Yeah, I don't see you. >> See down below on the line down to the
left. Just click on the video. There's a cross through it. I'll coin at the back. >> That worked. Thank you. >> Okay. So, Tom, if you'll just kind of keep an eye on that in case we have uh somebody from Weston and Samson and
somebody from the uh Elm Street project. >> Yep. >> Thank you. Uh agenda item 4 a permits for Horton Street map 10 lots 2829 29-2 three homes. Uh I prepared the
permits with the wording for that project. The wording is boilerplate and attached to the boilerplate wording are the terms and conditions that were written by Weston and Samson
and sent them to uh emailed them to the board of health. Elizabeth asked her to fill in the blanks which would be the name of the parties that own the property and then have the board of health sign them. They had already approved them, but they were approved in
the old format. But the uh wording is clearly um outlined in that [clears throat] anyone who gets a storm water permit is given permission to disturb 35,000 or
more square feet. all other permits that are required by other boards, committees, commissions for building, septic, wells, uh anything required by planning, those all have to be gotten separately that the storm
water permit is only allowing land disturbance and clearing. So, uh the first one was inclusive of everything and uh when I talked to Jim Reed at West and Samson, he said absolutely not. I said I agree. So, as soon as I asked
Elizabeth after they're approved to give them to me because I want to set up a meeting with Mr. Lwango to explain what doesn't apply because of the amount of time that's gone by. Uh, he continues to work on the project and uh that's where we are with that. Does anyone have any
questions on that property? Has anybody been up there recently other than the snow before the snow? >> Well, just driving by today. Yeah. Well, I know Weston and Samson did make a site visit because we had a report uh that
Mr. Pearson did at the last meeting. So, if >> the Burns didn't set out their Catherine water, it's not just free running. >> Okay. >> Get the infiltration. >> So, if anyone joins us from Weston and Samson, we'll just see if they have anything. Uh I don't think they've been
out there again. I think everything is proceeding. Agenda item 4B. So, the calendars are just about all gone. I have a few in my car. I will put them
in the post office uh across the street. That's where most of them seem to get picked up. Uh response was very good from the public. Uh more than one said they thought these pictures were the best yet. So, I am collecting photographs
for the 2027 calendar. I received an email from a resident of the orchards who I haven't opened them up yet, but there I believe six winter pictures because we're usually looking for winter pictures, but
uh things are going along. I got a couple of pictures of trying to remember what they were. the wolf moon which I think was November and then there was one another moon um
January 5th I think it was and that one also has a a name other than new moon or whatever. I've got to see what that is. The second picture I took, I did both
um on my phone, I used the night setting and I used the regular setting. And I think I really got one really nice one. I took it down at the Heritage Park down on the river. And then I took a couple
around here looking out across the property. Uh there were the light was on at the track, but I we can erase that if we decide to use it. Anyhow, anyone has pictures, please email them to me at
nguladcomcast.net and I'm going to forward them to Heather because she's setting up a folder to collect all these. I'm waiting to hear back from BP to get an estimate for calendars for 2027 because Tom's working
on the budget and I'm waiting for the invoice for the 2026 calendars. So does anybody have any question on the calendars? This will probably be on the agenda each month just to give you updates and where
we are 5A new business 2027 preliminary budget. Uh you have anything on that Tom? [clears throat] Uh the operating budget? >> Yes. >> Yeah, that's pretty much
straightforward. We got to send in two options basically what current one is and then u if that occlusion does pass we need to increase the fuel line at least 3,000 that's the only difference you plug in a number for calendars
probably the same number we had last year until I get a new number from BP >> that would under communications, right? >> Yes. >> We just kept the number the same. >> Okay. The other thing was,
if you'll remember last year, Weston and Samson, Jere Schwartz, gave us a list of items that we're going to be responsible for over the next five years. And that list total well over $100,000.
So when Tom and I met with town administrator in the 26 budget, we set aside and got $15,000 to do the spring, I'll call it spring work, spring testing. Uh [clears throat]
I will be in touch with Jere Schwartz to find out what the schedule is for that. Uh we have a placeholder in the 27 budget in the amount of 15,000. It won't be less than that if we get it. Uh we'll have to look at the list that
she prepared to see what's priority and what we can actually afford to do and we'll be discussing that with the town administrator when the time comes. But the intent was of that list she gave us,
we're going to try to um reduce it each year and get some of these things accomplished. So, we'll see how that goes, but that's where we are with that. So, the budget will be on the next couple of meetings also, so that you're
just up to date on what's happening in any meetings that we have. >> Nancy, I had a question. >> Yes. >> You said the the proposal was for a lot more than the 15,000, right? >> Yes. They she had a list of items with estimates estimates next to each of the
functions that we're supposed to do. Yeah, I feel like storm water is just getting more complex and not cheaper. >> Oh, absolutely. No question about that. Um I have
a little information under I'll put it under um unanticipated items. Uh, I did sit in on the the statewide storm water meeting and there was some information that came out of that. Uh, nothing's getting
cheaper. Uh, but and and we may have to depending upon the town's financial situation, we may have to go a year without doing something. But the whole thing was
uh her assignment was tell us what you anticipate we've got to do to be keep up with what we have to do in the next five years. And that's what it was. So obviously there could be changes. The MS4 hasn't it's out there somewhere. It still hasn't been approved because
they're still getting feedback and making changes. So, but I'll give you a little bit more on that unanticipated. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Agenda item 5C update on
three. No, excuse me. 5B. >> Is that Is he here for you? No, I guess he's going out again. Um, >> I won't see him again. Scary. >> I think it was one of your men. Then item 5B, update on the orchards. We had
gotten a report, I believe, of was it flooding or storm water or something? So, who can give us information on the orchards? >> Is that you, Lisa? >> Yeah. I um I actually went out there with Dave Phillips briefly to meet with the gentleman who is the representative
uh for the homeowners association. Um he showed us a basin that they had worked on previously >> and um I guess the contractor had told them that actually it's it's a new basin. >> Uh the contractor had told them they
didn't need to go to the town for any permits or anything. >> What else is new? >> Yeah. Um, but I guess this subdivision was one that was uh like a a very early on 40B
>> in town. >> So, it was um federally funded. Um, he's looking for I guess it came to the town, too, and he couldn't find any paperwork at all on the subdivision being built. Um,
in any case, I suggested he contact um the PAT committee for a meeting with PACE to discuss a little bit more about what they want to do for changes to storm water. And I told him that most likely we would be having because we don't have a town engineer. So, we would
have to have Weston and Samson. Um, and I hope that didn't scare him off. I never after that we haven't received an email looking for a meeting. >> Do they issues >> do they understand if they work on that basin they're going to probably need a
storm water permit? >> Yeah, I told him that as well. >> Do they do they do they feel that the town has a financial obligation relative to that? Apparently they they're one, you know, they're a little skeptical about why
were there no permits and they're just confused about >> the the orchard goes back way back >> two maybe was it >> way back before then but I believe the pants
>> Carrie I don't think Carrie had anything >> the recent the recent which is years ago the recent work I believe Todd Pilling was here. I don't know if there would be any records in the board of health records.
>> Pretty sure they have a plan for I don't know if it's the built or not, but they should have something on it >> for the basin that they they put out. >> No, for the the development. >> Oh, okay. Yeah. So, they are having issues. they're having high water they
need to deal with >> and they tried they tried to tie into Mass DOT's drainage which goes to our property too and I believe that was declined >> that's all I know at this point okay if he contacts us I'll make sure that Tom and
>> All right, we'll probably have this on the agenda too just to see if there's anything new uh and if you hear anything just let uh Heather know that that there will be some kind of report 5C update on 315 to 430 Milk Street
housing development. This is Do you have anything? I understand this is planning board. Are they coming to you or Concom? What's the situation? This is Bell Farms. >> Um Bell Farms is complete with the planning board. They did receive u
approval. I don't know if they're still before Goncom for any issues. >> Yes, >> they are. Okay. >> In fact, they recently submitted a revised plan past couple weeks. >> So, they'll probably be coming back to the planning board if it's depending
upon the revisions. >> Yeah. Um so, when I when I notified Carrie, we talked about that. um we would need specific direction from them on to what because there's going to be
multiple there's more revisions coming and expected um based on the review that's going to happen with Weston and Samson again. Okay. So then it will go back to planning. >> Well, >> if the >> what we need is them to outline what the
changes were to the plan so Carrie and the planning board can figure out exactly um if they do need to modify the permit or not. >> Okay. >> Do they have a public water supply for
that project? >> No, it's well it's well driven. They have the infrastructure in place. So that once the moratorum is over they can tie in but until that happens it's going to be well >> okay. Do do you know what their rate of
buildout will be? Is it >> 26 homes? >> But rate how many per year? >> I don't know off the top of my head. >> Oh obviously if it lasts long enough they could get could get down water. But uh you saw the
latest email that came out. We're still in a drought situation in this part of the state. Not as what surprised me, not as bad as some of the parts of the state that I thought were probably in pretty good shape. Uh [clears throat] I was surprised that the area around the
Connecticut River Valley uh is they're not in the best shape. And um so of all of the state there seems to be drought everywhere. We are in the least drought but we're still
in a drought. So I don't see that moratorum being lifted uh anytime soon. But I was really surprised to see that uh when it came in. >> Yeah. Maybe uh after the win. Well, we're due. I think we're due for a lot
of snow. So maybe that'll help. >> It'll it'll change us. I don't know if it'll eliminate it. It might change our rating, but I was surprised. Uh anything else on the Milk Street development bell
farms? If not, uh we will move on to six unanticipated items. So, I attended that Zoom meeting. There was Michelle Voodoo was there from the EPA. She's the person that uh I
filed the MS4 with. She replaced new Tedar in the permitting department. [sighs] We had uh a gentleman from DP, a name I didn't recognize at all, and I don't know if it's a new assignment because
when he was introduced, I didn't have the the Zoom full connection, but what I picked up from listening to Michelle, they expect the MS4, the new regs and the changes and all that to be coming
out in a few months, which we know few months could be yes depending upon what input they get and what changes are made. Well, I what I found interesting was the EPA
I don't want to say has been audited by the federal government because they're a federal agency, but they talked about re revising standards for water pollution
and they talked about um E.coli E coli and I'm thinking to myself, well, E.coli is one of the items that we report as far as impaired waters.
And uh it sounded like the standards were going to be lowered so that more pollutants or the pollutant level would drop. And I kept thinking, how is that going to affect the Clean
Water Act? That doesn't sound things would get tighter, but I know that there were other areas that the EPA is responsible for that they've talked about uh easing standards. So, I don't know if this will affect
Wetlands Protection Act, but obviously that's federal, too. Uh that was that was the one thing that stood out in my mind. Uh yeah. Yes. And thank you. Yes, I had given this out uh at the last meeting. EPA moves to limit scope of
clean water law and uh this is what they were talking about and uh they talk about certain wetlands. So if you have this from last month, uh this is what they were discussing.
the areas around the state that usually give progress reports of what they're doing and central and central is a big one and then there's the the certain river valleys like the Charles River watershed
and uh there's the cape and then there's the upper cape and uh southeast never has a report I don't know where the lady is that used to do it But I didn't really hear anything that sounded like, "Oh, that's great. That's
progress." They brought up again public education and they brought up again the rubber ducky campaign and how great it's been. And I think to myself, we've heard that for years and it wasn't original. That started in Maine. But they're still
promoting the the rubber duckies, the little yellow ducks as the I'll call it the giveaway for storm water. And uh I just >> So this is the statewide storm water committee.
>> Statewide stormwater coalition. Yes. >> Do they meet >> quarterly? And the the person that uh chairs it is a a PE. Her name is Maria Rose and she works for
Brookline. I'm not sure if she's the town engineer, the planner or what, but um she does a good job. Obviously, she's a technical person, but in talking about public education, I
thought, uh, we heard about those ducks when we pretty much got started back in 2018 and said, we're going to start giving out items of value that can be used that carry the logo. So, there were no new ideas. When I did
get to speak at the end, I held up I held up our calendar and said, "We did publish a 2026 calendar and it's been wellreceived and Maria seemed to be surprised." So, I'm going to mail one to her. I think I've I've got one at home. I can send her and I think I told you at the last
meeting, uh, I sense the EPA asked me for copies, so I sent them copies. Uh, so they've gotten it each year and they said they wanted it to show examples of public education materials and I'm thinking if all they come up with a
rubber duckies, it wasn't even original. But everybody to their own, but >> uh we uh >> I mean if you buy hundreds of thousands of rubber duckies and pass them out >> uh they had them when I used to go to
MMA. I purposely didn't take them because I felt our program was not bragging. Our program was more useful. It was more beneficial. And when we gave something out, you could do something with it. You
could use it or a you could entertain a a child with it, you know. So, uh, [clears throat] does anyone else have any unanticipated items? What is this? Assignment number two. >> Who is that? Dance. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. Because you got to give one to uh Bill at the next meeting, >> right? >> Okay. So, you're going to give us a progress report on Dan's educational program. >> You got bring it back. [laughter] >> You should pass one out to all of us.
>> I was already given one of these, by the way. >> It wasn't a bad grade. It was in the bag already. >> If you make copies, I'll give them out. >> Yes. >> Okay. I just want to let you know I strongly recycle. So, [laughter] >> these are questions. >> They are.
>> Yes. It kind of focuses >> as long as they answers >> the when I give those out at events, it's the middle school age children that when I say, "Do you do crossword puzzles?" Yeah. I said, "Oh, good. I got one here for you." and those that's the
age level that puzzles they're into that for some reason. I I have had some adults take them too. So, anything else on unanticipated items? Number seven, public input. Mr. Chrisully, did you wish to speak on
anything? >> I do, Mrs. Gulot. Uh, thanks for hearing me and I apologize that I missed the last meeting. You know, I had to use my uh vacation time for vacation, not for storm water meetings. Uh so if you guys can hear me. >> Well,
well, [laughter] go ahead. >> You know, you know how much time I burned, you know. So, um as I understand it, the um retention ponds, overflows, what whatever you want to call them, under your uh purview are not or have
not been built to the plans. And you guys were mentioning, you know, potential safety. You know, am I in eminent [clears throat] danger of, you know, some sort of water related issue as a result of the design challenge? And
and if you remember previously, you know, I am h having and still continue to have groundwater seepage into my basement, you know, which is a is in my opinion is a direct result of this project. Is there intention to uh do
groundwater calculations at this point to understand, you know, what has changed? Has it raised the groundwater level? And is that groundwater continuing to trespass onto my property? So, that's kind of my first question. I do have a series of questions for you.
>> Okay. Before you go on, did you get a copy of the report from Weston and Samson? It should have been attached to the agenda for the last meeting. >> It it was not. But I just have the agenda. Uh I did take some screenshots of it, you know, from the YouTube video
and when I get some free time, I will come to the planning board. >> All right. It's dated November 18th, 2025. And uh Heather, could you email that to Mr. Christopher because it was discussed in length at the meeting and that's it's
a public document >> and it will probably answer a lot of your questions. Now, the minutes for today, uh, the ones we're supposed to act on today, I will just read that section quickly, just so you know how it
was left. Um, agenda item 4 a review, discuss act report from Weston and Samson, MACS solar farm, dated 111825. James Ridden of WNS presented a detailed review of the basin design report
highlighting discrepancies between the asbuilt and design specifications. He noted that while some differences were minor, others raised concerns about safety and water quality treatment functionality.
He recommended that MACS perform a complete hydraologic and hydraulic analysis to confirm whether the asbuilt conditions meet the original design plans. There was extensive discussion regarding this project. WNS will look at
EPA guidelines to determine the number of site visits that will be proposed due to concerns and recommendations from WNS and mention of erosion and runoff under some panels from Lisa Calonia. Chairman Gulot stated that an amended proposal
for Weston and Samson Samson should be requested to provide for additional engineering services for this project that will include site visits and inspections. And then the motion was to request uh
for me to send a letter to the planning board to request an amended proposal from Weston and Samson uh including site visits and inspections to address ongoing base and concerns at the ME MACS solar farm. So that's what happened. It
was a long discussion. Jim Reed was here. So I did send the letter. It was forwarded to Weston and Samson. The proposal came back and it's at the planning board level right now and I think they're it is you know if it's on
your agenda for tonight. >> Um it is not because Carrie has the discretion to move that forward on her own. >> Oh okay. >> Have to come to the planning board. >> So um we're waiting to hear there will be additional work by Weston and Samson
at the expense of MACS. We requested it because after Todd Pilling left, excuse me, there were no site visits and inspections. We waited. We, the town, the planning
board, the storm water committee waited and waited and Weston and Samson requested numerous times that the storm water calculations be done again because they didn't match the approved plans. Yeah, I'm aware of that.
>> After the report of November came in, uh, and again, we'll email that to you so you can see the detail. The concern was we really need this. Not only do we need calculations, we need site visit visits possible and
inspection or inspections. >> So, that's the next step. And as it as the re minutes say, um, Weston and Samson is recommending that MACs perform a complete hydraologic and
hydraulic analysis. So I think that's part of what you're talking about. So >> that's where we are. >> All right. Perfect. Uh, so my second question, uh, obviously Todd Pillings has left the town. Um, he was a
professional engineer. Was he performing this work on behalf of the town as a professional engineer? >> Quite frankly, everything he did, he did as a professional engineer. He just wasn't paid as one.
>> All right. Because you had you had said previously, you had told me that although he was a professional engineer, he was not representing representing the town in a prof uh manner. So again just clarification. So he in fact he was representing the
town as a professional engineer. >> He was representing [clears throat] >> Let me correct let me just let me he was representing the town as the storm water [clears throat] agent. He is
a PE and when he did work he did it to the level of a PE but the town didn't employ him as PE. So, uh, that's why when he left, there were no more inspections or anything. But I can tell
you on all the projects he worked on, he [clears throat] he didn't he didn't hold back professional services because that's not how he did his job. So, he actually was the town stormwater engineer. And I guess you might say he
was overqualified and underpaid, but it absolutely >> he paid it back. He did the job. So >> okay. So he was acting on behalf of the town >> as the agent. Yes. >> Doing all the calculations and verifying that for the behalf of the town on behalf of the town.
>> Absolutely. And I can tell you having worked with him on a couple of projects that I'll say did not compute. Not this not I'm not referring to MACS at this point but I remember a meeting right in this
room with him the engineer for a project and Jim Aguia and this was repeatedly back and forth because the engineer was not making the correct calculations
but I don't think the other engineer anticipated that we had somebody that was qualified to do that And the whole discussion around that project and its delay was specifically related to stormwater calculations that don't match. In the
end, we got the correct calculations. And he said, "Okay." And I remember Jim Aguia saying, "If you would have brought this in the first time, we could have approved it the first time." So that's how detailed the work was that he did on
at least two other projects. All right. And do you know if he had any peer review of the storm water calculations he was doing for the town? >> Was that being reviewed by Wesson and Samson or another engineering? >> Won and No, no. Won and Samson was not involved as town engineers. We all of
the boards in need of engineering services uh got together and uh Mr. Ferry was there too because of his need for engineering services periodically and we had a whole screening process and
got RFPs and got it down to three interviewed three and it was unanimous to hire Weston and Samson. So they are officially the town engineers now. >> Okay. So from the time that Todd left to the time that you hired Won and Samson,
there was no PE representation for the town >> or peer review or town peer review of calculations. >> The the calculations on this project. >> I remember him saying the numbers don't
match. They've got to be done. Then he left. The project continued on to its I'll call it physical completion >> and before everything gets final approval. Storm water was waiting for the planning
board to say okay we got everything and everything matches. In the meantime we hired Weston and Samson and they looked at it and they're the ones that said they don't match. So the final approval on that project has not been issued
simply because we're waiting for information. And now that Weston and Samson has actually gotten more involved in the project and issued the report of November 18th. There is more work that has to be done
and my understanding is we're all waiting for MACS to respond. Okay, that uh that answers the questions that I have at this point. You know, I obviously have some questions of the planning board and their reviews and and
so on and so forth. >> If you get a chance, if you haven't done it already, uh go online and watch the meeting. >> I I have and I've I've taken notes and, you know, watched it. Well, when you and when you get the email with the written
report attached and if you watch that again, you'll see how Jim Maren from Western and Samson goes through the each of the items and answers questions, but you'll actually have something written in front of you to follow it. >> Exactly. I mean, I'm concerned I'm on
the downhill side of this, as you guys know. You know, I've I've had problems, you know, over the the last I don't know what's been seven years, eight years since this has been going on and I don't seem to get any resolution at this point. You know, based on the last meeting, you know, that there is some
safety issues. I'm concerned with that. You know, am I in eminent danger of a massive flood when, you know, this the snow and more snow to come, we get rain. I'm also seeing the fact that, you know, things like swifts and so forth were not being performed. I mean, I have to hold
the storm water committee accountable, you know, for not, you know, seeing that through. I mean, that's just my comments. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. I'm just being, you know, truthful in terms of the way that I feel and the information that I'm seeing.
>> Does anybody have any comments or questions uh for Mr. Chrisully? >> Not at this time. >> Okay. So I think that the next thing that will happen is the proposal will go to Carrie and uh it it did come in but
the the dollar amount has to be agreed to and I believe that MACS was concerned about the additional amount of money involved but again that's not our call. We need the information so we're waiting
to find out what the situation is there. >> Okay. Yeah. I mean, you know, I mean, you you brought it up in the last meeting. Obviously, their attention to this matter, you know, the the site's basically done in their eyes. You know, they're not generating power. They don't have any place to play it to send it.
So, they're kind of written this off. So, I I'm also concerned, you know, with their inability to pay attention to this project, you know, which has kind of been my experience, you know, with them. Their predecessor, Clearwater Forefront, um, uh, what's his name? um Peter and so
forth. So, you know, I'm concerned, you know, it's it's it's done. They kind of wash their hands of it. Obviously, they're not generating power, which is not necessarily, you know, what the intent of this, you know, expenditure was. And I haven't seen any new erosion
control go in. You know, these are things that I'm concerned about, you know, as a direct to butter, especially being downhill in the fact that, you know, I'm unable to use a portion of my basement because it continues to flood. And I I think you're all well aware of that.
>> Anyone have anything anything else? Do you have anything else, Mr. Chris Tulie? >> That's it for me. I appreciate you guys giving me the time to speak. >> Okay. Uh public input. Mrs. supposed to like did we have any correspondence?
>> Uh did expenditures. Did we pay any bills? >> Yes. WEX gas for $847.78. >> Okay. um approval of the minutes of December 17th. They I sent them out late. That's totally my fault. They were ready a week
ago. I printed them and printed the agenda and then had to leave the house and never did get back to them. So, uh if you want to approve them, fine. If you want to hold them till next month, that's fine, too. I just need to know what you want to do.
>> Make a motion to approve. I have a motion to approve the minutes of December 17th. Is there a second? >> Second. >> A motion and a second. Any discussion? >> Hearing none. All in favor? >> I >> I
>> Mr. Ferry, >> did you say I, Mr. Ferry? >> You're too quiet. Uh, >> excuse me. >> Yes. Before you get to the very end, you didn't do 4C.
>> Oh, yeah. I went right into 4 A. Five. 5 A. Okay. Sorry about that. Um, >> yes. >> So, >> they commented. >> That's how I know. >> Lisa and I didn't hear anything. >> Yeah, we didn't hear it. We must be
chatting. [snorts] >> I mentioned that. Yes. the BMS that were left to the down gradient side. I hope that the water there's no run off the insultation downgrading of the BMS. >> I thought that was the um house lots
>> that was for Alm Street. >> Y >> Okay. So, just to um Did you get that? >> See, no one listens to me. You're >> too You're too silent. So, [clears throat]
did you get [snorts] Heather? >> Yes. >> When you go to put these minutes together and he's in his office and don't let him out and just say, "Please repeat what I need in here." All right. >> Okay. Refer to Thomas Berry. Got it.
>> With that, you know, exclamation points. Um, and I should have added the only thing that I will say about 2231 Elm Street is there was a proposal
we requested and I believe that was unless I'm mixing this up with another one. I believe the there was a proposal prepared by Weston and Samson. I don't remember exactly everything
included but it is going to include uh site visit or visits inspection or inspections. I think the concern from the property owner the developer
was why are we doing this again? We did it for the first one and I think the main thing is to reiterate they're all set with the storm water permit which is what I reported in the past. We we permitted that entire property so they don't need another
storm water permit. However, once they started working on the part of the property where they're going to put the second building, obviously the land disturbance because of the runoff and everything else that
requires all of the storm water controls that would be in place. So, although they don't need the permit, they still need [cough] to they [clears throat] still need to do all of the storm water controls and things they have to do. And I believe they're also talking to the planning board, but I'm not aware of
where it is there. Do you know anything about that one? >> Um, I know they've been in conversation with Carrie. It might be on the agenda tonight. >> Oh, okay. All right. So, we really, other than Tom's progress report or site visit or driveby, whatever. We really
don't have anything on this one. Um, >> I have something >> on this one. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Well, we do. Oh, the other thing is though, we do get the weekly reports from Michael Dair and I just aside, I
met him outside of the highway department office. He I had he had sent me an email and said he didn't get calendars and where could he get them. So, I told him where to get them. In the meantime, I stopped at your office on a Friday and
puts him in that little outer office and as I'm leaving your building, he's coming in. So, I grabbed calendars and that's where I met him. So, >> anyhow, go ahead, Lisa. >> Yeah, I just wanted to mention that we do have the the SWIP inspections being
done and sent over. [clears throat and cough] Um, I did ask a question that didn't really get answered. I don't know if you caught that in the email. Um because I I asked if the additional cleared area was taken into consideration when they
prepared the SWIP. Um and I didn't get an answer. >> Okay. I know there was another comment about I believe there was some was it runoff or or uh around the entrance and it was Jason that responded to that
>> keeping the entrance cleaned up and they uh lops did respond that they will make sure that that entrance stays clean gets swept. So, Michael Deair is the construction inspector and he's being
paid by Eman to do his work. Is Jason an employee of the engineering firm or >> Jason Soua? He works for um Lopes. >> Oh, okay. >> A contractor. >> So, G Lopes is doing the
>> site >> land. Okay. All right. Okay. because I noticed he had responded to that and I noticed he's copied on the emails. So, I will tell you that I get copies obviously every week and I
followed them to Jareden as an FYI because until they get out there and do whatever's going to be in that proposal, I just want them to look at the pictures uh even if they don't read all of the
report but just so that they get a a view of the site visit and what's going on. I figure that will keep them up to speed as opposed to going out there, especially now that there's snow on the ground, which they won't be able to see much anyhow. But, uh, I I just send it
as a FYI. If they look at it, fine. If they don't look at it, that's fine. I'm not asking them to do extra work without getting paid. But I just just want them to know this is what we get. This is what their inspector is showing us. So, uh, I think
if anything was of real concern, we'd have heard from them. But, uh, again, just keep them up to speed so when they do get involved, they don't have to backtrack too much. >> Yeah. And I know the building commissioner, I was hoping he was here because I know he was looking into the
area as well. >> Okay. [cough and clears throat] >> To see if, you know, they cleared within their limit. >> So, are they uh, are you meeting tomorrow night? concl >> Thursday. Yeah. >> Okay. Are they on your agenda? >> No,
>> that project. Okay. So, it's just maybe at the planning level at this point. >> I mean, we'll probably discuss it under we can discuss it um under other unanticipated, but we've already approved them. They already have permits,
>> right? And that's like as we issued the storm water permit way back with the very beginning >> and we're just waiting to find out um from Kerry [clears throat] what the uh and I think I think I saw an email
from Jeff Cavalo that wanted to look into something. I don't know if it was the cost or what, but the only thing Stormwater is waiting for now is the uh okay that uh we got the money from Eman and the
accounts been set up and uh Weston and Samson can do whatever it is they're going to do for I'll say the town because it's just not focused on storm water. They'll obviously look at everything and >> yeah, we definitely need them to look at
the basins and all that. Yeah. So their their proposal is an it's instead of an addendum to the one that was existent, I think they wrote a whole new one simply because of what it was we were looking for. So but other than that, I just read
the reports and see what's going on. Um is there anything else before we adjourn hearing? None. Is there a motion to adjurnn? I'll make the motion.
>> We have a motion. Is there a second? >> A second. >> Mrs. Mr. Ferry sitting there smiling. I was waiting to see. Uh, all in favor? >> I [clears throat] meeting is adjourned and it looks like it's
159. Thank you. Have a good one everybody. >> You too. this end. I think it >> you have your own copy.
>> Yeah. Why does mine look different than yours? Get this straightened out. Let me see that.