Good afternoon everyone. This is the regular monthly meeting of the Dyton Storm Water Committee. It's Wednesday, February 18th, 2026. I'm calling this meeting to order at 1 p.m. We're in the old town hall upper meeting upper level meeting room on Somerset
Avenue. This is a public meeting video and audio recorded for posting on YouTube. And we're ready to go. >> [clears throat] >> First item, please rise for the pledge
of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America to the republic, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. >> Roll call vote. >> David Phillips here.
I'm Perry here. >> Lisa Calonia here. >> Nancy Koula here. Everybody's here. Oh no, Dan is absent today. He sent an email. He had a last minute u conflict. Um for a permits for Hton Street, map
10, lots 28,29 29-2. These are the three homes. Uh what's the status of the permits? because I still don't have them. I haven't been told they're ready. >> Uh I I can check that for you and report back to you later today with that.
>> Okay. I'm looking for >> Yeah. I don't know which >> storm water permits. Last I heard um I had an email from the um uh their board, the health agent wanting
to know why they couldn't use the permit language that she had approved by the board. And I explained in length and I copied you guys on the email. We couldn't use [clears throat] it because it included terms and conditions that are not under the control of the storm water committee. We do not have
the authority to approve septic systems to grant building permits for homes or any other structure uh to um had [clears throat] put in a well. And I explained to her that the the permit language that I submitted, all they have
to do is fill in the blanks, which is the location, the property owner, map, and lot, the permit fee, which has already been collected on these three properties, get them voted and signed by the board of health. So, and get them to me so that Tom and I can meet with the
gentleman who's the the spokesman and just explain to him, here we are, storm water permits. tell them the stuff that doesn't apply like pre-construction meeting and we're good to go. I don't know what the holdup is. The last thing
that uh I heard she was going to take him to the board of health, but I don't know if the board has met. Uh Lisa, do you have anything on that at the pack meeting? >> Yeah. Hi. I did ask um can you hear me? Okay. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. Um, I asked Liz yesterday and she said that the board of health was meeting yesterday and that that item was on there. So, I would have assumed that they they're signed, but um I don't know. >> Bill, if you could just ask when you
return to your office and certainly if they're there, uh, let me know and either Tom's around or give me a call. I'll pick them up. I think those sign offs are there too that that you know I could be ready to issue those you know almost immediately if everybody signed off. >> Okay. But this is >> No, I understand
>> this is only the border held storm water permit. >> Um as I said to her in the email, >> there are fees attached to well permits and septic permits and building permits, but they're not permit fees that we collect and we don't regulate any of
those things. So, we only want to deal with the storm water. And so, that's that's what we're looking for. Okay. Um, fortunately, the gentleman we're dealing with is uh easy to deal with at this point. Um, and
they haven't had violations. They've been doing a good job even though they don't have all the language. And the language on those on that permit is a boiler plate that has been approved by Weston and Samson because it's Weston and Samson who will do site visit inspections to make sure they're in
compliance with what's on that permit and our storm water rules and rigs. So that's where we are with that. Uh the 2027 calendars. Um still looking for photos. I've gotten quite a few good ones. So, uh, anyone watching this
video, if you have any photos you'd like to submit, you can email them to, uh, me or Tom Ferry. Um, no buildings, no people. Hopefully, the picture is shot horizontal horizontal, not vertical.
And, um, when you send them in, even if they don't make the next calendar, we'll save them. But you give us permission, meaning the town, to use them in a future calendar. So, anyone that wants to do that, please get them in so we can uh pick what we're going to do for 27.
I'd like to get that to BP before they wrap up school in June. So, at least that's on file. Agenda item 4C, 2231 Elm Street, second storage building. Is there any update on this? >> Actually, I was out there um last week
and I was out there again today. >> Okay. >> Just taking a look. We talked about that in the pack meeting um uh yesterday and um you know they're they're just they they're doing a lot of site preparation. They they've you know clear cut the upper a lot and they've stockpiled the
the top soil and moving material around. [snorts] They've done some uh some storm water drainage. Um those trenches are now they've been backfilled um checked and and [clears throat] ready. They're good to go. they haven't started any um digging or anything for um foundations
or footings >> and as you know Lisa and I discussed if there were issues um you know pertaining to that once those um asbuilts come in as soon as you know they they can supply us with the asbuilt drawings then we can say you
know everything is good to go you may proceed or we need a timeout here we're going to evaluate so >> all right uh Lisa do you have anything >> yeah um Um, MBL sent an email today saying they're resuming the SWIP inspections for that because um, you
know, things are starting to thaw out, I guess, temporarily, right, Tom? Then it's going to freeze again. Um, but, um, I think we were also kind of there were a few of us that were just concerned about the upper area that they were
moving Earth around on because they don't have a permit for that upper area. It was just the area between the building and where the building is going. But um yeah, so we're going to have to keep an eye on that. Um as far as conservation
goes, you know, they're staying outside of my jurisdiction. They're they're they're only in my jurisdiction for what they're permitted to do. And um that's the grading, the storm water design, and the building and the utilities. So,
um, yeah. So, I I'll just, you know, be do I did remind them to keep the access clean. Um, I have the superintendent's number on speed dial. If we have any issues, we can contact Lopes. They're really good
about taking care of stuff. >> Yeah. Do they are they continuing to use Mr. Daylor as their inspector? Michael Dala, you know. >> Yeah. From from MBL, correct? >> Still there. Okay. >> All right.
>> I believe so. >> Okay. Okay. Um, is there any uh This is 4 D. Anything on the orchards drainage? We had talked about that briefly and uh they were going to have somebody look at it, I think, but I haven't heard
anything. So, no updates on that one. No, no updates. Uh, I do do know they were going to contact the storm water committee. That was the last time Dave and I went out there and met with the um president of the homeowners
association. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> And no, I haven't heard anything uh since the last meeting when you gave us told us what was that you had been there. So, I'm not sure what's happening. So, we'll just uh [snorts] uh move on.
for update on Bell Farms. Is there anything there? Um what's happening with the Bell Farms division subdivision? [clears throat] Anything new? >> Um the only thing new was uh Weston and Sansson submitted a peer review phase F
peer review for that dated January 21st. And um a lot of the items have been addressed except there are still still some items that the conservation commission um may wish to weigh in on
under the under the local bylaw. So um we have our meeting tomorrow night and we are I do ant you know they are on the agenda and I do anticipate more discussion on that. >> Okay.
Uh, new business agenda item 5A, 2027 preliminary budget. Uh, have budget meetings started with the town administrator and the uh, town account yet? >> Yes, we met this morning on preliminary stuff. Uh, the question came up with
that 15 grand and then moving forward, what what do we need? >> Okay. And um I do have that email from uh Jes Watts from Weston and Samson. Um and
I'm planning to ask her to sit on sit in on the meeting next month uh to give us some more guidance. Uh she talked about uh I think was doing more testing this year with the 15,000 we got and um I'm looking for some direction from the list
she created to see what we should be asking for. uh 15,000 is a placeholder. Um I expect it's going to be more than that, but I also we all have to know uh what is the next step? Uh I don't know.
It may be just continue testing if we can't get >> right money. >> We probably should meet with her, you next meeting. >> Oh yeah, we can do a conference call. I >> I think she offered that anyways. Um, I would I would suggest to get
moving with that 15 and if there's another number that needs to be suggested, we target the fall meeting with and that way there we still put some in motion. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um, uh, kind of connected to this agenda item 5B.
um again spring testing which is the 15,000 um she has put together a um recommended changes in the bylaw and regulations.
Um I told her that I was not going to present it at today's meeting that I'm going to send it out to the stomata committee for them to look at. Um, so we have a chance to look at it. It's it's lengthy. I mean, lengthy and it's not
something that we can just whip through in a meeting. So, um, I will send that out and just say, "Take a look at this." Uh, I'll send it to, um, Carrie for the planning board because I'm sure they're going to have comments. uh Lisa will get
it for the concom uh but she they obviously she had help with it. So Weston and Samson looked at again by regs took into consideration um changes in the um or potential
changes in the MS4. we maybe probably will have to do a new notice of intent because we're coming up towards the end of the 10-year period when we submitted the last one. And so anyhow, that's coming. So, uh for
next month's uh agenda, um if you would uh have the plan and agenda item uh under five uh let's call it 5A.
Um, no. Leave 5A is the 2027 preliminary budget because we need to discuss that with her. Um, >> we we probably going to act on that next meeting though. The monetary >> what the 15,000
>> or any any suggestion? >> Um, I can I'll get in touch with her. uh if I have to I will up it to something but without actually talking to her uh I'll increase the
placeholder. It's it's it's the the best I can do at this point. Um >> right. >> So Heather for the next meeting March 5A and 5B will be exactly the same
because we're going to be asking Jarice to give the committee some kind of presentation. whatever. Okay. Um, agenda item 5B. Um,
just going back to that, um, 5A. So the as far as I'm concerned the storm water budget that was submitted should reflect what we had for this year with a question mark on the placeholder simply
but that's the number I got to look at and the contracted salary increases that have to be made. Other than that the rest of it as far as I'm concerned stays the same. Now, if they decide to cut it
at some meeting at which I am not present, anyone who's present at that meeting should just say, "I'll let the chairman know because I'm prepared to defend that budget with a firm number if in fact we're
going to do something uh as far as testing or something else from Weston and Samson." That's that's the only question mark I have. uh and we'll we'll just go with it at the time. Um
I can tell you there have been recommended cuts in the board of assessors budget and the board is standing firm. Um the zerobased budget is where we are this year
based on cuts that were made previously and any contracted uh salary increases which we can't control anyhow but but anyhow this just an info thing. Agenda item 5B Don Elementary School
site study. I got an email from uh I believe it's the architectural firm that's gathering information to no they haven't hired an architect so that's poor choice
there it's from the firm that's doing a study on what is needed at the school after sifting through all of blabl basically the question is are you aware of any conditions at the site, which to me it's both the
elementary and middle school, not just the elementary. The site is is both buildings that would have been contaminated with anything, oil spills, uh, pick your poison, whatever.
and thinking about when I was at the school, we didn't have oil spills. We didn't have oil leaks. Um, at that most of the time it was just the elementary school. The middle school was built obviously after I left the regional high school
office. Um, to best of my knowledge, there has never been anything that would contaminate the site. The worst thing they would find is an old septic system before we could connected the buildings up to sewage which um
obviously it's not like an oil spill or a gasoline leak. So does anybody have any knowledge of anything over at that site? Either either building site consider the whole thing or the little piece of land that we bought off that little driveway that was a house lot.
Again, the only thing you're gonna find there is the septic system that I'm aware of because we bought that when I was on the board of selecting. >> Nope. [clears throat] All all entities in town get that same notice. >> Okay. >> So, you just got to answer no to the three questions.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Uh but as I say, um even when we lost the boiler over there, there was not an oil spill. It just died uh and had to be replaced. So, okay, I will respond.
That's an easy no. >> I thought that was the answer, but since it was addressed to the committee, I wanted to make sure everybody was aware of it just in case anybody says, "Hey, I remember." Are there any unanticipated items?
Oh, does anybody has there been any runoff or any any kind of anything relative to the the snow? And I know we're going to get rain, but on any of the existing storm water um sites as far as solar farms or anything? No. No. I
know you can't go on the site to do an inspection, but I just didn't know of uh like those that are closer to the road like Tmont Street if anything had been noticed. So, that's good. Any public input? We have no public. Any correspondence?
Anything, Heather? I guess the only correspondence would have been what I referred to for the Don Elementary School study. >> Yes, Lisa. >> Did you want to talk about the drought? >> I'm sorry. What would you say? >> Did the drought? Did you want to mention
the drought? >> Oh, um, so yeah, much to my surprise, I got the email from the, uh, state and I followed it. At least is aware of it. I followed it indicating that the drought condition
in southeastern Massachusetts which is us has worsened and we have gone to a level two drought. We had been a level one drought. The rest of the state is in pretty good shape. Uh except I think it was way out in the western part there
was a small area that was experiencing some drought. Um and uh they asked that it be mentioned. I sent it to the selectman and asked them to please announce it or post it or I think um Leanne said they'll put it on the
website. Uh just as information um I mean I know the snow hasn't melted yet but we did have didn't we have weekend after weekend after weekend of rain >> and to say imagined that we would be >> to say that it's gotten worse.
I would have thought they'd have said you're still at a level one. But so anyhow, >> I learned a little something and I'm sure Tom already knows this, but um when you get 12 inches of snow, that's the equivalent of only one inch of precipitation,
believe it or not. >> Yeah, I know that. [clears throat] >> Dry snow and it's less. Yeah. >> Well, you get a frost in the ground, too. Whatever you get for a rain event does not count towards your drought. It just runs off >> concrete.
>> But >> but it goes somewhere. >> So it goes into the streams that empty into the rivers that empty into the ocean eventually, I guess. >> Yeah. But it doesn't help the drought condition. Mhm. >> So, as I said on the email, another good
reason to conserve water usage and manage storm water efficiently to replenish the aquifers. So, we're still trying to manage rainwater. [snorts] Heather, were there any um expenditures? >> No. None.
>> Um again, I haven't heard from BP. Um I guess uh I'm not getting a response from the department I got them from. So, I think I'll get in touch with the business office and just say, "I think there was an oversight and they forgot to send us a bill, but we do need to get
that invoice." Um, all the calendars, I think I've got maybe three or four in the car. Other than that, they're all out. They're gone. Um, the response was fast and it was those who saw it said, "This is the best one
yet." Um, they just keep getting better. So, um, for anyone who saw the picture of Billy from the Aggie School, the little donkey, in that picture, you can see part of another animal. I found out they
have a miniature horse. So, I asked if I could get a picture of the two of them together. Um, I think the horse's name is Pick P I C. So anyhow, uh,
>> they didn't have a [laughter] they they didn't have a picture this year. Uh, the first two years I had the the dairy herd and then we had the one with the field with the equipment. Uh, they didn't submit one for for this year. So hopefully I I can get something. But,
uh, that little critter is, he's something else. He's really cute. Um, we don't have minutes, right? >> No, sorry. >> We'll do that next time. The next meeting is March 18, 2026. Uh does anybody have anything they want to bring
up just uh for a future agenda? Any questions or anything? Uh the footnote with a star, I put that on there because I had a feeling we may might not have had any updates on anything, but if I don't put something down and we have something, then it's
can't really discuss it. So that's a catch. Um, so I will entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> A motion motion to >> Is there a second? [clears throat] >> Did you second it, Bill? >> I Yeah, I Yes. Second.
>> Okay. All in favor? >> I It looks like it's 125. >> 125. Quick work of that. Wow. >> Yeah. Considering the last meeting. >> Take care, Lisa. >> [laughter]
>> Thanks, Lisa. >> Thank you. [laughter] >> She She's the kindest kind. Have a good one. >> See you later. Bye. That's right.