Yep. Alright. Since it is 06:30, we will call to order this meeting of the Dilworth Park Board on Wednesday, July 8, 2026. We'll welcome our guest here today, and then, we'll just do roll call. We'll start with Terry, and we'll work our way around. Terry Ehlers. Tim Tolleson. Mhmm. Lyle Carrento. Andrew Randall. Melanie Filling. Amber Boro, Douglas City Council. Angela Miller from staff. And Perry Batts, finance officer. Thank you. Alright. Give everybody a minute to look through the agenda. There's one discussion item I would like to move around.
If we can get a motion and a quorum on that, is to move up the this the budget discussion so we kinda have an idea where we're at before we talk park stuff. Sure. So that way we know what we're dealing with versus trying to go the other way. That's fine. Any objection to moving that budget discussion up above all the park stuff? No. I think it's a good idea. All in favor? I'm sorry. Yeah. We'll just I need a motion and a second. Thank you. I'll make a motion. We move discussion in front of Elmtree and Melanie seconds.
Perfect. All in favor one more time? Aye. Any other agenda items to add, subtract? If not, we'll motion to approve the modified agenda. I make a motion we approve the modified agenda. K. This is in my second. All in favor? Aye. Motion carries. Next item on the agenda for tonight is the approval of the minutes from the May 13 meeting. If Erbence had a minute to look through that, we will entertain a motion to approve the minutes from May 13.
This is Tim. Motion to approve. Lyle, I'll second it. All right. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. So the first item for tonight on the discussion will be the park board budget, and I believe Perry. Is it Perry's gonna address some of that for us. Perry, yeah, is our finance officer, and he knows all things numbers for us. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Perfect. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you for inviting me. Angela. I have been your this will be my third Well, third budget. And we're just starting the budget process,
actually, in about Amber, we'll be starting another. If not, the workshops will start soon. So this is a is a good time for for your, you know, questions and input. As counsel, we'll be voting on this parkour budget. And I so I don't have real numbers. I I'm just starting to pull together. But this spreadsheet I gave you I'm just gonna. I know it looks like there's if you go to the far right column, there's two sources of revenue for your for your park board budget, your park the park fund.
It's essentially it's the depot, revenue that comes in. And then you've got a plug number because down below on that bottom half, that's where the actual costs for the park fund the park expenses happen. You know there's heating for if I just look down if you look at the let's look at that third column from the right the budget 26 column and you see the total down at the bottom $92,787
Okay? Total costs that we we anticipated for 2026. If I could just push your eyes back up to the top half of it it right above it you'll see I've estimated rents from the depot of about $5,000 The difference is kind of a plug number. Essentially the general fund then makes up the difference and pushes the money. I've got a balance. It has to balance. So $81,000 actually, that's right. 82 87,787
is what, theoretically at the end of this year I would if we spend $5,000 if revenues come in of $5,000 and we spend exactly $92,787 in costs, I will push $87,000 of cash into the Park Fund cash account. Does that make sense? So again, the revenue source is really rather limited. It's the depot. And the balance then, I've got to make it up out of the general fund, has got to contribute in.
And and, of course, we kind of monitor those costs. We don't want, you know I rely on Mike, to to watch, a little bit if there's maintenance needs. And, of course, the heating and electric let's go like, heating down there. $6,000 you'll see in the 2026 for heating and electricity for the depot. You know, and then you'll see there's $2,000 for, like, postage. Custodial, there's one, dollars 2,400. That's that monthly $300 that we have.
What's his name? Doug. Doug. Yes. So so so these are the items that make up what's going on right now. One of the bigger items that happens is the park equipment. Okay. So I look back and really I think it was in Cottonwood was in 2024. We had a big piece of equipment come in there. It was, like, 40 almost $42,000. I think I didn't I'm not sure what exactly equipment it was, but must have been it must have been some of that play equipment,
if I recall. So '24, we had that. Every year, I budget about $50,000. If you don't use it, if you don't spend on it, it stays in in your cash, so to speak. So so I I still put the that amount in there unless and when it comes time for Amber, when it comes time for discussion about park fund and councils, no. We wanna do two. We want two you know, that'll be an item where I'll continue to put a $50,000 capital, right,
you know, park equipment in there, unless council says no, there's something more that they want. You know? So this is so council gets when it comes time for budget, they've got all these items coming up, and then they get to prioritize that. And for the park, they prioritize that based on how you guys input to your council. So, you know what? Let me just touch base on the cash because Angela specifically asked me to talk about cash. And I didn't I didn't give you guys a copy,
but the park fund does have a cash account. And it's as of as of today, there's 254,588 in that account. So think of that as like a savings account for Park Fund. Which a big chunk of this would is saving up for the Northside Park. So we need to decide it. Right. So let's not let's not spend that exactly because we haven't it's and I look back the last few years.
It's been about, in '23, it was 216,000. In '24 it was 222,000. Back in '18 it was 218,000. So it's been sort of a steady eddy cash account cash savings account that's sitting there. It hasn't been drained and nor has it, you know, been added to, you know it hasn't it's been kind of steady. So with that land purchase, and you guys know more about that, then I just make the payment each year for thirty five. Well, now it's two of them. Well, we just finished the two parcels that were purchased.
One of them, we just finished here paying that off and in '26, and yet when we got three more payments on that second parcel. So it's like $35,000 a year. But that said, I know that there's a bigger plan for that those two parcels. And part of the plan should probably be thinking about this cash too. And, again, I'm just the scorekeeper. So I, you know, again,
counsels my direct report basically on that. But but, yes, dollars $220,000 $254,000 as of today cash sitting in that Park Fund account. Is that where this interest earnings comes from? Is interest off of that cash account? Yes. Good question. And so each December so at the end of the year, I will allocate to all of the funds. So general fund, all the way from to park to the community center to to the fire to,
everybody gets a little their portion of if I earn 500 if the city earns about $500,000 in interest throughout the year, I'll allocate some of that to park based on based on their fund balance. Yes. So, yeah, technically, if you had a million dollars in there, you'd get more I'd allocate more interest to it. So you're incentivized to save, like I tell my kid. But, yeah, so, again, cash is sitting there, and Angela said it correctly. It's probably got a bigger a bigger target than just the,
you know, the the Delaware City, the parks that we currently are operating. So, yeah. But the the operating costs are are fairly mundane. I mean, you know, last year, I'll just remind you guys, we had the bigger one we spent $16,000. So if you look in that actual 25 column, I had there's a $16,001.46 number there, and I know about 9,500 or $10,000 of that was for Mike fix the posts over at the depot on the shelter
thing for the train for the for that locomotive for sitting there. Yeah. So he had because they were rotting out. So we spent about $9,500 right there on that. So other than that, it's usually that's been a larger, like, repair bill. Well, actually, of that 16,000, the remaining was in the depot itself. I think I think Lonnie and, they put cabinets or they did some kitchen work in there. That was maybe about 8,000. So there's an example. There's where $16,000
of of the park fund cash was spent for repairs and such. Otherwise, it's kind of mundane expenditures. There wasn't in '25 actual park equipment. I think, again, '24, I know there was. And I think in '23, there was also. Mhmm. Apart when I had just started here, there was a park there was one of the parks got Street or street? Might I think it was Birchtree. Yes. So and that was probably in that $40,000 range also. So, yeah, there's just a kind of a quick high level summary of what park fund,
you know, revenue and and its expenditures, are. And So I think, what we're all really interested so we have two big projects, kind of. We have the community center, which is, I think, a focus for us all. We want to make sure that's gonna be a good facility. We might have to put more into it. And then we have, well, Astra Park, which isn't as big. I think our we wanna kinda know what what what can we send and still, you know, stay in the good zone? You know what I mean? So do you have any suggestions on that? And community center now is a separate fund,
which I didn't print print off that. That's a separate it's it's another it's another set of accounts that it didn't bring those. So I don't know that in the community center budget for the construction or whatever, there is, a 100,000. But as you have seen on the proposals, we're we're way over on that already. So we're looking to Oh, yeah. Sure. This is that equipment in the community center itself. To dip into the park funds to get the system we really want in there. Gotcha. So we're wondering, you know,
what yeah. Like, how much would you say is a safe amount for us to spend between these two parks this year? So so in general so the state of Minnesota kind of tells us big picture. They say you wanna you wanna keep six months or you're required. We're, we're required to keep five to six months of operating costs in in fund balance in cash. So if you think about it, you're if we call just the park fund right now as a 90 call it $95,000
budget. If you know, so I'm trying to do the math here on the spot. Thank you, Angela. If we've got $250,000 we have a I will we do have a fair a healthy fund balance there. So that's that's about, you know, that's 250%, give or take real quick math on that, which, honestly, the overall general fund has got 140%, which is really healthy. So we're even healthier yet in the Park Fund for the savings account there.
I'm not suggesting we blow it, but you could and I'd have to look into this to go to cross fund. This is between park and community center. You know, how I can move dollars, because if that's the question, if we could maybe take something out of park and put it over into community center. I didn't come prepared for that question. I should have anticipated it. Because you you guys had told me that that was because I right. I've heard that that that equipment that's in the community center budget is kind of
less than you'd like. So I might just double check on just on the on the the legalities and the, you know, the mechanics of going from Money. Park over to community center because because I have to be careful about that. Like, I can't just go over to the fire and do things because it's an enterprise fund. So it's there's steps to take. But but but to give you there is a healthy balance in the park fund. So the $2.54 58 that you mentioned, is that on top of the budget 20 the $92.70
No. No. That two number The $2.54 that. Yes. Okay. Is is the total if you wanna think of it as fund balance or the cash. It's the savings. It's the cash fund balance available. Okay. So that number is included in that. Okay. So right. It is about a 2 it is a a very Park Fund right now is very health is very healthy. Yeah. I mean, it's 20240% or so. Again, that's down to zero. So you could in in theory, I could see if we wanted to move some dollars out of Park into community
center for that purpose. Yeah. I mean, I I but I wanna verify that I can do that. So this you might have to do a follow-up. About transferring the funds? Yeah. From one going from one to another is always is Even though it'd be paying for the park equipment. Even though it's park equipment in there. Because the cost center the building itself is community center. Sure. Yeah. Like I can't just go from water over to a park fund. It's they can borrow there's some things have to be kept separate. So I think we can do it, but I wanna verify that.
Okay. Yeah. But so, again, there's a healthy balance there in Park Fund cash. So if I understand the generalities, we would be okay to do funding for an ashtray to get that taken care of. And then probably sit back till we find out how much we would have to Right. With our remainder to cover the equipment there. Right. And And how the situation sits this year, that would probably be the limit for, expansion, you know, unless it gets solved really quickly.
You meant going back to how you said, you know, you like to have a safe cushion all the time too. Yeah. So but to add more than that would probably not be beneficial as planning it because I know our year is in September. It starts in October and this is July. So August I know. You know, it's kind of the end of the year. So for the end of this year, they're budget, Ash Tree and then kind of wait and see what we can play over to that. And I think we need to September 15 is when we have to file with the state our preliminary budget.
And so we and what we can what we do by September 12 is we the number we file so we have to communicate to them, and it's in print. We can't increase the budget after September 12. We can decrease it up until December. But we can't go any. So what ends up is we kind of come in high on the September 12 budget that I submit to the state. And then we really start paring down. I mean, even after that, a council starts saying,
well, you know, they don't want a 13% levy increase. So they start, okay, let's take this out. Let's take that out, or let's get more revenue. Let's get more revenue over here if we can you know, to the extent we can get revenue. You know, so, like, if you were to say, well, hey. We're gonna get $20,000 of park revenue increase because we're gonna increase the depot, you know, or whatever. Let's just in that let's implement that. Well, that's a good guy. That increases. So then I that gives me more revenue. So September 12,
think about if there's a wish list, we wanna put those wish list items in prior to that, And then we can take then we end up likely removing things. Yeah. Yeah. I'm on for Yep. So tonight we decide. Right. And and I would also, if there were intentions for if in if in calendar twenty seven, you don't have any intentions for the other property, the two parcels, also keep that in mind. I'm not sure where where that is, or if that's further down the road. I'm think I'm thinking it's further down the road.
Yeah. So so yes. But I will look into can I can I transfer funds if you decide if council decides to move to approve little increasing that budget over there for the park equipment? Okay. Yep. I got you. I'll look into that. Yeah. Yeah. I what would you have to say? I was just gonna say I'd had a hard time convincing them to go to 30 from 35 to 50. So just keep that in mind. Council doesn't always see things the way I do, so I can try my hardest.
But I had a hard time convincing them to even do that. So we just keep that in mind. Mhmm. And the budget process, if you can't transfer park into community center, could we ask for more community center so that we can get the playground we'd like? Oh, sure. Then we can then we can simply put a higher number in, but then or it gets it gets into those, you know, priorities. Yeah. And and honestly so council's gonna be asking me where are our big our big items for next year. One of them is Mike's new fire new,
snow plow truck. Yeah. And I don't think the PA Center is gonna come as a surprise to them. They know what's coming. They know what's going in there. So I I think that they've already kind of realized this isn't gonna be free. Right. They're gonna have to do something. So And I would I also would bring up on the community center, you know, again, watch for that contingency number. Yeah. You know, where that's where we're spending a little more on easements now right now to get well, top separate topic. That's the waterline across the projects. So where is that community center is as it's being constructed,
you know, we've got a contingency number in there. You know, it's it's, oh, you know, if something happens, you know, you just something costs more than you think or whatever. So those change orders. And if we'll see. I mean, you know, sometimes, I things come in under budget, you know, too, the overall the overall project. So but, yeah, let I think it's important to see if I can move if if we want to if Park wants to spend more on that and less on something else, you know.
But yeah. And and I'll look into the legality and move in the should that be the desire, can I move those dollars? Yeah. Well, pursue that because it's gonna have to be done. It's just how much? 10,000 or 10,000? Right. You know, it's gonna be needed. It's gonna be needed done so the legalities of mechanics What You know? Because if we're gonna end up moving some there, we know that, which is what's the dollar and also the process is legal. The process fits the matrix. Okay. So then going back to that end. Okay.
80,000 for a playground. We can just use a number, and we're short 15,000. Okay. We'll take our 15 and cover that to make sure we get a very good, modern community center with something that's functional and not just looking shabby and Yeah. You know, run down right right away when we're opening it. You know? Can I ask what are we is I've I've seen is it 80 or a 100,000 on equipment in The proposals we're seeing for the community center are, like, 170, about 160 that what we have right now?
And that doesn't always, yeah, include flooring and stuff. But, yeah, that's where we're at. Like I said, I know that in the community center budget for, like, building it is a 100,000 for a playground. For a playground. But, obviously, we're we're probably gonna go over that. So we're just kinda and then we also have the Astree Park thing on our plate. So we're just wondering, like, how much are we gonna have to cut back? Or eat or I mean, I don't know. Like you said, if you can't transfer the funds from park community center, is there another way? And I think I can, but I just wanna make sure. What can I ask, what is the what is the optimal number,
or what's the likely number of on the spend over at the community center for the park equipment? Do we have any idea? The highest one was the $1.70 that Oh, okay. It's just looking on the floor. So it's quite a bit over. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Double. To spend money Double. Money to see who owns the community center for birthday parties and stuff. Yeah. The other one was once they're not gonna do it if we don't have a good playground. I agree. Yeah. No. Because, yeah, it'll bring in revenue. If it has a nice playground, we'll be able to rent the rooms for parties and And that's gonna be year round unlike our other parks which are some of the time.
Right. That's gonna be year round all the time. You know? So that's gonna be more chances of adding things to it. Yep. Okay. So $1.70 is the top is that the top end on it? Our top quote right now. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Which doesn't include flooring. But yes. Okay. So 200. So 200. Yep. Anyway. Okay. Shoot high, remember. Well, flooring when we go with. But, I just have a couple other questions that we maybe can address. So assuming they at the budget, they approve the 50,000 again,
so that would go into the pool. So if any of this is actually purchased in 2027, that would be there as well. Yes. Assuming that it's I'm glad you asked that because that's what I was gonna say. We do have another flow of money coming in and Right. You know, once the $2.27 comes Right. Would assume it's gonna stay at 50. I don't think they're gonna lower it. Right. But I don't know if I can give them something to go any higher. We could even shoot for, like, 86,000 a week or two. Right. Which which is something I can ask. Inch it up. Yeah. Yeah. And and it I mean,
they know that cost of stuff goes up, the cost of labor is going up, nothing's gonna stay the same. The 35,000 wasn't cutting it, and that was pretty obvious. So cost of living mix. Yeah. For all of us. And my other question is we we are obviously having a lot more events, as a park board. And so the the money that we're using at these events, does that come out of that same line item, or is that different, or is there a different amount that's set aside for park events? Well, let's see. Street and park events. I've got right now year to date well, we budgeted 15,000,
and, I've only seen I just looked here, like, $1,500 spent. Right. Well, we have this. So is there is it is there more related to local days or any more events? We have two more events. We'll have Paws in the Park and the holiday event. Okay. The that's right. Holiday is the expensive one. Thank you. Yeah. That that one actually, fiscally wise, it's in your next year. Yeah. Oz in the park will occur in September. Right. So that will be in your current fiscal year. Well, if if that holiday if that's the tree lighting and all of that.
Right? Yeah. Mhmm. If if those invoices which those invoices occur in '26, I'll hit them. I I I still have to hit them in '26. Oh, right. Okay. So, yeah, so that's I I believe that's the most expensive one of the events, isn't it? Isn't the the lights on the tree Yes. That come out of our budget? And it looks like at least 5 or 6,000. Contract that for three years? We did. Okay. Are we all on have we done it for three years? Is this our third year? I think. This was our third one. Right? That's what I so I don't It's worth shopping around to look for I mean,
I like what they do, but, I mean, this is worth Yeah. I've This one's the end of the three year, and then we'll have to renew it or find somebody new. Right? You do a nice job, though. Yep. You do a nice job. I did note that one, though. Thank you. That's where I'm getting my $15,000 number. Yep. So, yes. If you sure. You have a choice there. You could say, well, you know, no lights in '27 and I mean We're all getting the I know. I'm joking. But yeah. But sure. So yes, Angela. That's that's where they show up. Okay. So but that is that 15,000
you said is still in that within that 92 that's already, like, there? Yes. It's not like it's a separate pocket or anything? Nope. It's part of the 92. Okay. Yes. K. So That's that's a little off the country by that. For the, the 15,000 on the repairs and maintenance for 2026, do we know what that is? For '26? It was those poles, he said, and then the Well, '25. '25. The polls the polls were 25. So so, Amber, which light up which On the budget where it says budget 2026 Yep.
The repair and maintenance. Okay. And right. Well, again Well, that's just the budget. You know what? Honestly, I think I might have those right. I've got you repeated. That's I was just wondering. It's The, the park events you're right, Angela. 7,500 is what I've got for park events, unless I've got those two numbers transposed. Okay. But right. The polls were, like, they were if you slide over into '24, that was part of that $23,000 number. So in the actuals.
So the 15,000, yeah, I was thinking that was for events. I've got 7,500 for events and 15 for repairs and maintenance. So honestly, we're nowhere near repairs and maintenance this year. So Just a couple of thousand. Use that already? No. Okay. So we're we're well under that. Again, some of these budget numbers, you try to leave. If you don't spend that amount, I try not to it's like, okay. We're really good. So I take that number away. Like, I but I'm not saying for 27.
I'm gonna go down and bring that down to 5,000. But I could say the fifth part of the 15, if Mike feels we don't have repairs coming like that, we could possibly say, let's take some of that. Let's reduce that, but let's put that to a transfer over to or into park equipment itself, community center park equipment. So, yeah, Amber, I see something there possibly. Okay. Yep. I do that's a there's a possibility for but for for funding. So maybe there's a few thousand there. Yeah.
Maybe we can use that for something else. Right. Yep. What I had a quick question. What, feeds into the miscellaneous revenues? Like Let's see. Some examples. So up on top, well, I don't have anything up there. The the you're right. Good question. Because I've got $2,100 there for '25. I'd have to go I didn't pull what that was, in '25. $2,000 miscellaneous revenue. The pool is a whole separate thing. Right? It's not Whole separate? Okay. Separate. Not this. So maybe there was some donations or something.
I'm not sure what that $2,100 is. You have stumped me. I can find out, though. Sure. Yeah. Did we have any sponsors for events last year? Or I don't know if they gave us money because they usually just donated whatever it was, like Mhmm. Yeah. I have to think. Yeah. Okay. I don't know if we got a check from somebody, but I think Well, I see a contribution to donation of $380 I was gonna say I thought we got a check from somebody. It was only $380 That's not that doesn't explain much.
Yep. So, again, you know, as a lever, you've you've got that should we be increasing our rent, you know, money for the depot. I mean, also, I mean, that's something you and I and Jess will talk about too. And but How much is it to rent to them? It's $75 that you have for the whole day, a $200 damage deposit. It's a good deal. It just you can bring your own food even. Right? It runs on now. See, sometimes they don't wanna ask me because I would just be saying, you know, that. You know? And and so so the humanity and the kindness touch is more on their side.
Mine, I mean, I'm all about just what's the market rate. I think we're all just used to taking a loss. Yeah. I know. But but it's something to think about. Yeah. The thing is don't do it in large amounts. Like, you go 75 to 100 a day with a $100 deposit and then do that for Right. Two, three years, and then you raise it again. If you do Yeah. Sticker shock. Then you turn people off. Yeah. You know, because if you we still want as a park board to have income in there because our nearest competition is gonna be the new community center next year because it's
gonna be open. So everybody's gonna wanna run and go to that. So we don't wanna, you know Yeah. So rent steal from herself. Rent from the community center won't feed into our budget, but if somebody rents the indoor playground for birthday, does that feed in? That doesn't? It's still a community center. If it's We'd spend money from our park budget for that, but then we don't collect anything. For our park projects on other things that are on the agenda here Right. That are not city authority. So the park board won't make anything at all in our accounts off the commission.
What we're doing is we're helping the city by taking some of our money, putting it back there so that we have a good place for events, good places to rent, good image for the town to get people in it. And then, hopefully, the city council will reciprocate with looking at 56,000 a year. And they'll see, okay, for that because we're willing to help in return for future help. Is that right? You're you're right too. It's almost a guarantee that the rent on the depot would take a hit after
that opens. Yeah. And that's why going a 100 a day because it's all day, which is a good deal, and a 100 deposit. So you're talking a $25 difference there. And then that would help because people are gonna be wanting to go with that, you know, in the area. It's new. It's exciting. But we don't wanna lose that for our own purposes. So it's kinda you know, it's Right. Some some balance scales. And and, honestly, some of these things, it should really be at least a 3% a year increase. I mean, just inflation. Yeah. You know, is I know sometimes it's easy to just stay flat,
flat, flat, and I really Yeah. You know? That's why you kinda you kinda do it incrementally and then, you know, give it one or two years to soak into the area, and then you kinda do it a little more. And that's just because of the culture. Yep. Yep. The culture, and they're not gonna take 3% of your work And what's Fargo Fargo, right? Because they're used to it, but not here in Delaware. Right. We can make it $77. Here we go. 3%. Maybe 75, 80. I I know. Okay. 5%. Something. So any other specific questions?
But, you know and and I'm happy to come, as as the budget process here starts unfolding to, you know, update you guys with cash balance. I mean, I I'm happy to swing into this meeting as needed. I'm very happy to do that. Yeah. Just give you where the cash is, where your year to date expenditures are. Yeah. This gives us a good idea of where where we're at. I think that's kind of what we need. That and I can and here again, here's your cash balance and pass it around. But it's Okay. That's the $2.58. That's what's in there as of today.
And it'll go higher again with come December, I put that interest I just do it once a year. Yeah. I give the little share of interest revenue. So it's like all the funds are held in one account, and you can All all the my interest, I just take it into it all comes into one account. And at the end of the year, I allocate it out to based on what everybody's cash balance is. Got it. Yep. So it's just a one time a year entry. And and, yeah. And, honestly, that might be five to ten thousand dollars somewhere in there for, I'd say at least maybe maybe $57,000
of interest. Yeah. Thank you so much. Yeah. Thank you, John. Again, any but I will look into, can I do you guys can figure out what number if I can look into them? Can is my kosher to do it? Yeah. Do you need to go back? Yeah. It's all good. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Alright. Next item on the discussion for tonight is the Elm Tree Park. Yeah. So we had a resident that, emailed us about the park. They were a little, just a I'm just gonna read it with what she has to say.
And then Wael actually did a little video of of the parks. We can kinda see what is happening over there right now. I I I have some pictures in the packet, but they're not current, obviously. But, so these are a little bit I'll show you here and there. But she's just wondering what the future plans are for Elm Tree Park. I was disappointed to see the Boy Scout project was removed from the park. There were some lovely plants roses in there. Sure, a lot of weeds, but it's disappointing to see that the planter things are gone. The park is bare bones as is. I don't don't think the little bit of beauty to it had to be removed, especially when a boy scout when it was a boy scout project.
I'd like to see some playground equipment put in the park. I was told before the park doesn't have enough space for equipment anymore. We moved to the house across the street because of this cute little park, but it has been stripped down to practically nothing. Please let me know what the future is for Elm Street Park. So I I mean, I think they make some good points. I mean, it is a pretty, fair looking part. But let's I'll take a look here in my folder. I took a video, 03:00 Sunday afternoon. Yes. I went out there and this is how it currently sits. And, you know, when I in meetings, I tell people,
yeah, it needs to get mowed because it's smaller, so it's kinda like at the end. So where's Elmtree at? Elmtree. Just down down here. Southeast Side of town? It's like a South a small lot. Straight down from the post office going out towards Quick Trip. This is from the alleyway. I parked in the alleyway, and then I went up to show the boundary line because the tall weeds along the wood aren't on our property. It's Oh, yeah. You know? Right where I'm kinda walking in between that weed and that weed, that's our property. There's a bench there. Pretty good tree. It's not it's like half a lock wide,
so it's not big at all. That neighbor is straight across over there. He comes across and he mows it when he can't stand it getting any higher. And then again, there, the end of the gravel is hers. Mary is her name. Not the Mary who adopted the park. It's a different Mary. So the one who adopted the park doesn't respond to my emails or anything, so I don't know. So you go through, and there is some trees in there. They're pretty young. There is some good benches sitting in there, and they're they're level, and they're not cracked, and they're sturdy. As to far as her comment of tearing out everything that's good there, that bush is the grow back from one of the trees that you know,
we had that survey and was it 800 trees had to get cut? Oh. That was one of them. It was dead. And that's why I said, yeah. The pictures are outdated in the packet. But it's growing up because it never had the stump removal done to it. Oh. So now it's growing up around there. That's the sidewalk in the front. They have cones around where they took out those, thistle infested plant beds. Now when they were first put in and talking to Lynn Park, I know the flowers she described were there originally. They haven't been for the last two years. I I when Lynn was complaining to maintenance about not removing the trees that had
volunteered and come out to the floor of his, I went with my own, chainsaw and shovel, and I dug out the roots, you know, because they're big root balls. And I got them out. And then, I got told I couldn't spray the thistles with my Roundup because it has to be straight. I didn't know that. And I said, okay. I'm stopping. And, you know, so there are two there, but I don't know I cannot tell if grass seed was even attempted and spread on the dirt. That would be nice, you know, and then have one of those, you know, those mesh mats to help it grow. And then, more mowing on the city's part. Because I know it's nice that that guy next door,
I don't remember his name, but I recognize him when I see him. He comes over with his big old 1952 mower and cranks on it for about fifteen minutes, and it finally starts and he doesn't mow it. But he doesn't do that all the time. So with the park that size and she's wanting what she wants, what do you do? I'm open to any suggestions you have. And that's why it's like, even now there's still some thistle growing back in the dirt spots where they removed it because that's how infested it was. And the seeds went along that neighbors would finish,
which is actually our problem because we didn't control the thistle. Now Mary, the good she's a really nice lady, good neighbor. She's really, you know, she let me know, not in a bad way, but she does spray a lot to keep the weeds from coming into her yard because she's got really, really beautiful flower beds. And I totally understand her wanting to preserve that. So other than mowing and still doing something with the dirt there like reseeding, keeping it nice and level, there there is it's a it's a I think what do you call it, Amber, one time? A reading park?
Sit and read? Yeah. I mean, that's that's what it's good for. And the one tree was dead and infected or something, but it had to get removed, but they forgot the stump. They never come back for it. So What was the boy scout thing that she was talking about? Is it this front thing here with the In 2019, what's inside the miniature? That's when the Eagle Scout project in 2019 put those two flower beds that were in there. Originally had, obviously, according to her, some nice flowers in there. I I don't disagree with that. At that time, that probably existed. In this Yeah.
Bed? This picture to me actually looks like a nice little green space part. The picture does. Yeah. But it does look like Yeah. And that's more. That's probably after the project was done because there is this one. And then if you look in there, you'll see the lawn or one kind of against the fence. It would have been twice. Nice. Yeah. That's the color one. When's this picture from? Well, it was Google Maps. It's at least two years old. I'm pretty sure. So, you know, keep it mowed up, and, obviously, that tree is the one that got cut down, so that's not there. So from if they're across the street and they're looking, yeah, they're seeing those things removed,
the tree taken out from their point of view. Oh, you destroyed our neighborhood. Everything went black and suddenly now. So Well The Boy Scout project was removed because it was just overgrown? Yeah. Yeah. And it came down to, like, I mentioned it back in March. I mean, I said this year, if you can't effectively control the weed issue in there, because you have to do that first before you even think about replanting anything, Then my recommendation was to remove it, plant it back to grass so it's nice and level,
and it's a nice grassy area, which in a nice grassy area, if you want, is a community park. Go out there and have a little picnic on the grass. You can do that. There's plenty of room for that and do things. Maintenance. What's the maintenance schedule for mowing? I have no idea. I've wondered about that too. Do they have, like, a set schedule? Do they I think they have, like, a, like, a routine. Like, we'll do these and these. And then it just depends on weather and stuff like that. Oh, how Lynn explained it to me is bigger parks take priority. Okay. Whistle stop is always first on the list.
Then it goes up to Woodbridge, which is by where most of us live. And then it didn't used to be cottonwood, but now it is cottonwood because they got effective use of the diamond and new equipment. And so then, like, elm is nothing, so it's lower on the thing. And then you throw in keystone and birch wood and that. They're all there. And then the oak one has always been, weird. Because sometimes it gets done right away and then sometimes it isn't because they're gonna do a garden, not a garden or anything. So they don't go in there and then nothing happens,
you know. So it's kind of been sketchy over there in Oak next to Walmart. So I do know this is our smallest one that we have. Well, no. Second smallest because we got ash now. That got resurrected up. So ash will be the smallest. This will be the second smallest. And because they're the smallest, they get the lowest priority of mowing. Now maybe because ash is by the diamonds and by a church, it might raise its visibility, so it might get moved more. You never know. But Well, ash would be would be moved by the church. They Yeah. Okay. So something that we put the equipment and they maintain the the grounds.
So Okay. That one will get So then this one would go back to being at the bottom. And, you know, and it's kinda hard to argue that point because you got a lot of fuel, and you're paying a person to ride that mower, whether they're some are higher or for an higher. And you want our bigger, you know, our moneymaker whistle stop because people are renting that and doing things. So I can totally see, you know, what Mike and the maintenance guys are doing. It makes sense. It's like, yeah, you you gotta prioritize. So okay. Do you think it would help just to put it on their radar a little
more? That, hey. This one's maybe getting pushed off a little bit. Can we try to I definitely think we need to do that. Maintenance has made it very clear that this is not important to them. They have the the flowers aren't important, mowing the parks aren't important. They have said this over and over again. We have talked about hiring somebody just for this. We thought we had somebody hired. It fell through. I think they need to be talked to again. I talked to Mike last week about some stuff. Yeah. They know. They just and, yes, and we have.
We've talked about it several, several times about hiring somebody, but it's a budget item, and Right. Somebody's gotta pay for it. And effective use of resources. That's why I mentioned you to Tracy when you said your daughters wanted to do a little flower bed there in Walnut, you know, and Yep. Adopt that part. And I said, well, use the pavers from this one on that one. Then you don't have to spend that money. You got them. Yeah. But, you know, I'd be careful for hidden thistle seeds in them because those things are so adapted. These are Yeah. Yeah. In in Mike's defense, they're not,
you know, the they don't they're not botanists. They don't know a lot about flowers. They are not they don't know a lot about trees. Right. But that's why we talked about hiring somebody who does do that and enjoys it and wants to take, you know, pride in this. These guys are in and out. Like, they're trying to do it fast. They're trying to get in and out of there. They're not really, like, prioritizing. Especially, like, in this But at the same time, I mean, they this is our maintenance department. They should be taking care of the place as well. So the two dirt boxes definitely have It's disappointing there. You know, seeded so that they can get root this year and then next year,
and then having it nice and flat and mow where you don't have to, you know, for their sake, go around obstacles. I would definitely look into not only this tree, but all these other 800 and some trees are cut. Are you removing the stumps so you don't have grow back? Yeah. You know, you need Yeah. That is a little frustrating. Stump removal. You know, maybe not in the off weird places, but in something like this, a prominent place, I would definitely look at doing that. So, you know, I mean, I'm Maybe those are I, you know, I I suggested to do what was best at the time of what I was
given. Mhmm. And I tried for okay. I'll be this December, it'll be three and a half years. So, yeah, it's three years of June. So I've been trying to work with that, and I've been digging out trees on my own. Found out I couldn't spray on my own because I was my own money for Roundup I was using. And they're just trying to keep those things down. So, yeah, I mean, anybody got a suggestion, other than just keeping it grass and making it easier to mow? I'm I'm willing to listen. But, again, remember what our budget is for this year. So whatever you're thinking of, it it can't really actually be addressed until next year at the earliest.
I think that's I think you make a point. I don't think we would do anything this year. But maybe do we start with, like, just growing grass and removing the stone? Mhmm. I mean, that would make it look better. Mhmm. Yeah. And it's something so that the community will see that we're doing something. And I can talk to Mike again and make sure that this park is getting mowed because there is really no reason for it not to. That's silly. Yeah. And again, credit to the citizen. I totally see it from their point of view. When I had walnut,
the thing I inherited from the previous person who had walnut was the dysfunctional water fountain in there, which was from the lady Linus's donated and put in. And, I was working with Peyton and we were trying to work with it. And the thing is, it wasn't down deep enough so it'd freeze and break. And it didn't work and it was not functioning. And but yet it's there, so people are expecting it to work. So there again, just like this, the best thing to do was remove it, which we did. And that's what you've got now there. So That big hole next to that. Yeah. It's just a flat little concrete part there.
Yeah. And so it's like, okay. We're not gonna put money into that to do it correctly, then let's take it out. And at first, there was, you know, some people when I make my rounds, they'd say, oh, yeah. I was kinda nice. But it would have been better if it worked. So it's like, okay. You know, you can't always be the nice guy. It's like, okay. I gotta make the call. I gotta make the decision, and I get so Make a motion to ask the council to throw it on there to hire groundskeeper. I have been pushing for that for a while. So I mean, that's gonna be the most effective for all the parks. And and we thought we had somebody lined up,
and then it didn't work out. So I think we I really think we should keep pushing for it. I mean, I guess that's my thing that I thought was a good idea. I mean, as a park board too, we can do a volunteer project like us. Yes. Go out and do something a good idea. In a park, whether that's once a month or something like that too. I mean, just to show we're trying. Yes. I do apologize. Yeah. You know? And we do have the adopt a park park program, which we have three or four parks now.
I believe there's three parks are adopted. The only one that, you know, I'm not everywhere and I don't see everything, but the only one I've witnessed actually helping his back is a cut with with UC Hope. Yeah. Because I've been there with Nathan and his boys, you know, all of us. And then it's been one, sometimes two of their ladies. They come and they pull up and, you know, usually, six to seven of us will go in there and clean up stuff and everything. So that one, you know, I've actually participated with and been with, so I know they do it. The gal the Mary who adopted this one has not responded to me and,
you know, sent her emails and stuff. So I I just know it's not the one who lives next to the place. But so I don't know. What goes into, adopting a park? Is it just a second set of eyes on the park and It's it's actually it's actually asking that person to help maintain it. Weeding or, you know, picking up garbage, notifying us if, yeah, there is an issue like, you know, graffiti or something like that. But it does involve some actual work. You know what I mean? That's what we request out of of the dump card. You know? Okay. Yeah. So I'll shut up.
So do we just wanna revisit this and just work on improving what's there for now and then re talk about maybe other things next year or is that what we're thinking? It doesn't look like we're able to add much to it. It'd just be landscaping to make it a nice place to sit and enjoy. Mhmm. I I think if if it can be achieved, Amber, when you talk to him, to at least get grass put into the black spots. And then the longer they wait on the tree stump, you know, it's gonna be a bush. So they're gonna have to cut that down to get to the stump.
But there, again, trying to save some money. At least get grass planted to get that going with me at bare minimum. Just give it a little TLC. Mhmm. Yeah. I think so too. Yeah. I would love to see flowers and stuff put back in there, but nobody's gonna water them and maintain the beds. Right. It's just It's a lot. Yeah. Then we're just kinda spinning our wheels and Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yep. And, personally, those are good ideas, but right now, those would be better for a bigger, more high traffic parks. Yes. Right. Then this one, you know, no offense to the people who live around here, is a little kind of reading neighborhood one.
And with what we have, I think that's a good idea. But let's spend it in the bigger ones and then work our way down the list type of thing. Okay. Alright. So we can Alright. Next item on the agenda for tonight is the Ash Tree Park update. Alright. So I didn't have the proposals and time to put it in the packet. So you but you it is in the one that I printed for you. You'll have to pass the figure out the community center one. There's there's two proposals in there. One has the the dual slide and some other I'm gonna pull up the
So one's two slides and one's a single slide. There's a few in there. I was gonna say four different pictures. Right? This is some of our different angles. Two different pictures. Systems. Oh. There's multiple pictures that each of the same. Okay. I see. Right. So there's the first one. Like I said, it has the double slides with the individual things. Yep. And then the second one has the slides are separated, basically. The thing the also thing they have on here is that they put in the sidewalk Mhmm. Which as you if you have a chance to look at the cost,
is significant. And it doesn't go anywhere. There's no sidewalks over there. So I kinda brought that up and asked talked to him about that. And the reason they they did this I'm sorry? Who puts it in? They they would have someone do it. Yeah. Like, but we would obviously take those sidewalks. It's kind of like a visual thing for children to not get close to the street. So it looks like it's grass on the other side of the sidewalk, but that would be where the street is. You know? So, like, visually kids see the sidewalk and they're like, they know this is my boundary. Right? Where it the grass or whatever is going all the way to the street like
it does with the curb right now, that that that boundary isn't as obvious to kids. That is the reasoning. So they're all obviously all about safety and blah blah blah, whatever. So that's why that is in the proposal. So we can take any of this out. She said, you can do whatever you want. If you just wanna do three of those things and take off fabric, whatever. She said, we'll do whatever you want. Just you you pick. They wanted to give us some options. So Mhmm. And there should be a breakdown of how much each of the pieces are. So if there's something, oh, I really like that, but not so much this one. And then Terry had brought up the the sign as if that's even a line
item, and she mentioned that they like to have the sign there. It says what the age group is. Kind of like, almost like liability purposes. Like, it's for this age group. So if someone outside this age group is using it and gets hurt, you can be like, there's a sign that your the equipment wasn't made for this child. Yeah. That's kind of where the reasoning comes from for the sign. So again, we don't need to put it up, but that's why they put that in their proposal as well. If we got a sign from someone else, would it still cost a thousand dollars? It's my first Oh, yeah. Because it seems like an excessive amount for a sign.
It does seem like a line. It's like that's what signs are. That's what I thought. Yeah. I mean Right. Yeah. It does seem like a lot. Could we maybe make our own sign? Maybe? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. So Yeah. Currently, where it used to be and even, like like, just Elm, what we just saw. Yeah. I have a sidewalk on the front part, but there's nothing on the alleyway. You know? That's you can wander that way. You just we could cut a lot of money out of this by not having just a little concrete slab sitting there, you know, leaving it green to the curb.
And currently where it used to be, there was no sidewalk going around there. It was that way on this side. Now we're just talking about moving it to this side. Yeah. Is is that a suggestion by the company, or is it some kind of regulation? No. It's the it's the sidewalk, if that's what we're talking about, is not required. It's not like ADA accessible. She didn't mention anything. She just said they like to have some kind of, like, buffer between the playground and the street. And, like, that's like a visual trigger for kids. Like, don't go past the sidewalk. I mean, I'm guessing a lot of people have that rule at their house.
They Yep. You can play in the yard. Just don't invest. Right? Anyway, and that's why. Wood chips and then leave the size of the sidewalk of grass. Okay. I mean, I've got to put a picture of the stairs. Or something, like, wood pillars kinda? Because that is a a busy if we were moving it to that other corner by the baseball field and there's a game, I definitely would be worried. I would rather see a fence or something else. I don't think a sidewalk's gonna stop because Right. No. Like, I would rather see some other kinda barrier because that I mean, it's Just along that street.
Just along that one street where the baseball field is over here because it it gets bad. I'm I'm surprised somebody hasn't gotten hurt already. I mean So I guess I'm not sure. We so far between meetings, sometimes I don't remember what has been discussed. But, the other the the the side of the the lot that's close to the ball fields was eliminated. They tried to figure a way to put equipment in there, but you know there's that safety zone and there's so many trees over there. And when we talked to the church, they did not wanna take down any trees. Okay. And so that is why that corner was eliminated,
and so we are looking at the Northeast corner. Okay. So I'm not interested. Park is currently. Oh, yeah. It's just the trees doesn't matter. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Then it's not. Yeah. Where the issue smaller. Yeah. I'm sorry. I did say like Okay. I didn't know. Yeah. I didn't know that either. Yeah. I didn't know that either. Yeah. We don't need sidewalks there on that original location. And then Yeah. To support Terry there. Okay. They're talking a thousand bucks for their sign. I don't think it costs us that much to do our curtain signs that we have in our parks. Wherever did them currently. There must be a record of it.
You know, we got two trash cans and then a little placard saying helms tree, walnut, you know, all cottonwood. You know. And then, hopefully, they still kinda have the same blueprint because we make the ash and then the current ash tree sign that got I don't know if it got removed or not because they haven't driven by there. We had the current ash tree sign, so we can put that up to show it's a park. So they're all uniform. None of our others have that. And I understand their warning, and as a company, they have to present that. I totally understand their point of view, but we could just use our current ash tree sign that we have.
Yeah. Yeah. Keep it universal. I think, yeah, I think we're all under the same understanding that maybe the sign will go in the sidewalk. We're probably all right in the end. Yeah. Right. And that's $10 right there. You're right. Yes. Exactly. How do we fill out the rest or the different the two different playground equipment proposals? K. What was the cost on each of them? So I I have just got it because the original one they sent me didn't even have a breakdown.
$1.73 with all the extras and the other one's 68. It's just these two for This one that we're that's on the screen is 73. 70 3690. It is. The other one No. This is this is Friar Street 73. Yep. 73. And then there's two pictures with it. Then there's two more pictures, and this one says 68. And then the other one with the the slides are separated is the 68. 68772. I like the one place system. Yeah.
That's what I was thinking. And again, this we don't have to do all the things if you're like, we don't need the spinner. Let's take out the slot. I don't know if the spinner looks fun. Spinner looks fun. I will keep the spinner and the swings. The balance thing. Yep. I feel yep. This is already gonna cross it off. No. What is this little blue chair thing? That's what I was just about to ask. Is that one of those spinny things too? I feel like it's one of those, like, little, like, horse things that you, like, rock back and forth on. It looks like it's on a spring. I think those are yeah. Those two are rockers. The bug and the other blue thing are, like, rockers. Do we need two rockers?
Well, one's a teeter totter. Right? This one, I think. Okay. What's that other thing, that bat? This is a a rocker, and this, I think, is as well. And this is like So if we're looking at colors, the ladybug really doesn't match. But it is a cute option. What if we took the ladybug out and put two of those other rockers in? And we don't have to worry about the church commenting on any of this? They're just gonna accept what we give them? Well, I will send them what we have looked at and decided, and then we'll get their feedback, I suppose, and then go from there.
So Melanie I think as long as you put something, I think they're Based on you having smaller kids than that, you think the swings would be okay, or the bigger slide thing would be okay? Mhmm. That would be okay. I love the spinny thing. That's for sure. The seat cease teeter totter? Yeah. They use the teeter totter at Woodbridge a lot. And then, take out the balance beam and the little blue bouncy thing, whatever it's called, and keep the ladybug? I don't know. It'd be kinda interesting to see what this blue thing is. Like, how do you sit on it to bounce it? Because I'm wondering if they like it all in one unit or having two separated
slides would appeal to the kids more. No. I don't think the two slides because this one, you can climb on and stuff. Yeah. It seems like one big unit has more to it than both the two little ones. Together. It's like a little Yeah. Looks like it's gonna launch them off of it. I would rather see, like, two tater totters and maybe no ladybug. But Do you see kids sitting in it and the other one getting back, pulling and sending them forward? Yes. Yes. I can. You. I have I'd be the one pulling on it if I was that age. See how far they fly. Let's go. I wonder if they put that there because that spider's there right now.
Oh, man. Spider thing. Put them on. Yeah. So they just replace it with another plug. I mean, we could ask them to cut a few of these things out and see another suggestion for me, like, one decent sized piece of equipment instead of these little small ones. So a bounce beam within the two bouncy things? The ladybug and the blue chair thing? Well, I think they're designing on covering a wide range of little ones. They have the smaller ones where you can kinda be by them while they're playing and doing things. And then the older ones who are, you know,
mobile, they're out running on the other ones. So I think that's what their goal behind designing it was. Speaking of that, do you think we need one of these swings as an infant one? Yes. Mhmm. I do. Definitely think that one of those seats needs to be an infant seat. At least one, if not maybe two. What is that blue chair called? Is it the spring rider coil hover? Because that's, like, $1,700. If you take out the ladybug and that, you have rider. Mhmm. You know, almost $4,000 to do something else or $4,000
to put something else out there. Yeah. And the And the concrete. Concrete. Yeah. Now the balance beam thing, that's another thousand dollars. More than that. 1,600. Yeah. 1,700. Same one here. Jeez. The ladybug's $2,500. We all kinda agreed on this one. Mhmm. Yep. Mhmm. So we're dealing with this one, not the other one. Then on this one, we definitely like the main piece of equipment. Mhmm. The merry-go-round spinner one. The swings Mhmm. Having an infant swing on it. Yep. We definitely like the teeter totter. Mhmm.
The hover thing, no. The balance being no. Ladybug, yes, no in between. I I mean, no ladybug. No ladybug. It doesn't fit. It just doesn't fit. Right? It just looks low. Looks okay. So you're sitting with one, two, three, and the swing set, three apparatus, and a swing set. Maybe we can ask one more thing that they could show us. Yeah. Replace those three. Yeah. I think one yeah. Take those three out. Ask for one more thing. Yeah. That makes sense to me. Yeah. Maybe something for a little kid. For a young kid. Yeah. Do you wanna include a budget?
Like, could you give us an option for something else we could put here that is between 2 and 3,000 and not have them come back? Like, oh, yes. Here's this fun new $8,000 thing. Because that would Yeah. Like, I'm gonna need this money. I mean, we what did we say? The ladybug, all of that comes out and that sign, and we got $5,000. Yeah. So maybe under 4,000. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Up around that $4,000 range. That sounds fair. Yeah. I don't know if it's though. I mean, I would even another spinner thing or something bouncy. I don't know. Some kids like to bounce.
They like to climb. They like to swing. What else could we put in there? Yeah. And spin. What could we is there something bouncy? But do we maybe actually ask for something like the ladybug and stuff are geared for a little kid? Maybe we do need something for, like, a smaller age. Yeah. How much does, like, a a I don't know, a two year old sized slide climb unit cost. Because it's scaled down version of Yeah. Only have a scaled down version of that. Did they have one? This like, this size one. You're talking about one of like, the one of these that's in here. Yeah.
Like, the small the little one. Let's see. Oh, you know what we should see? How much are one of those little slides that the rollers go? They're so fun. Okay. Sound effects included. Yeah. That's true. It sounds like you've tried it. The heavy heavier you are, the faster you go. So we're thinking of taking all the smaller things out. The ladybug, the rocker, the The balance. The balance beam, and the seesaw? I think we should leave the seesaw. Oh, okay. The other slides are 4,600 or $8,700. Oh, that was 4,600.
Right? Because we're taking the sidewalk up too. Right? Right. Yep. Yep. That's And the slides. Five foot platform Mhmm. And the straight slide. You're just thinking another slide in there? Just that is 46. I think that would be it. Mhmm. I mean, that's my understanding of this. That would fill up the current Yeah. Footprint of the current Ash Tree Park area pretty good. Or one of those little climbing walls Or just a small No. Did they say how much square feet goes into this?
Yeah. It looks great. I don't I haven't seen anything like that. Because I don't think that's the scale. But that picture and that equipment looks like it would already be larger than what the current part sits on. Were they planted were they wanting that volleyball court to go to? I don't know. I don't know. But this does not include that space. It doesn't? Okay. No. That that wasn't part of our park. That was something the church did, and they were separate. Why don't these have drawings on it? Yeah. I see it. That must be where they put stuff here. But that's where the spacing is. Mhmm. Well, it would've Well, it would've Well, it would've been if we took out those three things. That would be good. Yeah. I would just So they would just Maybe we don't need another thing.
There and then you have slide. I I think we should ask another slide. I think it'd be within budget and give them something else to do. Like a small What size of thing? Yeah. Something. Because, like, there's, like, a ladybug right now where it can climb and climb. Yeah. I realize it's a tall Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's another kind of Yes. Something you can climb on the ground. That's what I I don't know. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. Like, one of those domes. They like to climb. Kids like that. Or a net, like, a dumpster. Yeah. Like, we have at one of the other ones. Yeah. Can we get the colors to keep them to match the rest of this?
I would agree with that, actually. I mean, are you saying that you do not like the color scheme? Or I like the color scheme is fine, but just for ladybug. The ladybug. Just so that way, if you get a climate structure, it's got the same colors Okay. Going on. Mhmm. So we're Do you like the colors, though? That's what we wouldn't wanna change any of that? We're good with that? Yeah. That seems fine. I just think something like the ladybug just sticks out. Yeah. It just doesn't match. Yeah. Alright. So we're moving the ladybug, the seat rocker, the balance beam, the sign, and the sidewalk. And inquire about getting the slide Are these little things next to the balance beam,
are they separate costs too? Are they part of the Yeah. That's $500. The bongo Are we removing those too with the balance beam? Okay. Move the bongo. Just the size and the spike, and I think that's a huge improvement. Yeah. You know? Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. And that should hopefully at least get us within that budget. I mean It no. Yeah. It should take our budget down or our cost down so that we're not sold in the car. Yeah. Mhmm. That's weirdly. We're we're still committing to what we agreed to. So We're in the ballpark at least. So that was the one that was a seventy three six ninety twenty four.
I believe I Well, that we are we were this is actually the other one. This is Right. It's just one of the double slide is what we're looking at, which has everything else is the same except the slide. So Okay. Oh, and add an infant swing. Oh, right. Yeah. I'm surprised they didn't do that. And it seems like they don't a lot of times unless we go out of our way to, yeah, go over our way to tell them. No. But just quick math. We take that out. Add that, we're still probably closer to that 55, 60, give or take, which at least is a little more feasible. I think so. Yeah.
Busy to swing. Okay. On this budget sheet, it does have kind of a history. And looks like in 2021, we were at $2.18, and then 2022 was at 89. So they did spend a substantial amount of money once upon a time. But now we're back up to the $2.50 range. Yeah. Was that Woodbridge? Yeah. I bet that's before my time. Or was that I was gonna say it's that's where they put the grass in the walking path and the benches around Keystone up in the new addition. Or is that the one with the basketball court in?
Playground. With the play with the walking path, miss Smith was high on that. Yeah. Because that was, like, a 140, I wanna say. Too. But the blue playground, I know when we put that in, that was a big because we got the blue playground and the green playground. Yeah. Like, back to back. Yeah. Otherwise, it used to be just that Wooded. Rainbow one. Yeah. That was This is just a spreadsheet that tracks. When? What? Oh, there you go. What kind of what project we did. Okay. Does it say when It doesn't have the cost that you can see. I'm just keeping track. Does it say when the Blue Park went in?
Blue Park was 2021. 2021. Mhmm. Okay. Where is Keystone Park? I don't even know where it is. I don't think it's North East Park. Park. It's just It's like where the little community and then kind of a new community center. It's basically north there, and it's a pond where they put grass and a walking path around it and some benches. Okay. So it's one of those holding ponds like Woodbridge is, like, north of us. The other one that's, like, two settlements north of where I live. Okay. Yeah. I think that one that area is called Key or where it is Keystone, Or is that what Keystone is?
Yeah. It's just the walking path around the town. Yeah. That's the part. Okay. But the they had to pay all that so far. When did that go? Start pouring concrete. Where which one? The walking path at Keystone. Oh, just went in when Keystone went in. Yeah. Okay. Because that's not oh, it's timing in there. Right. Yeah. Anyway. So I do have a new topic. Which topic are we on? Okay. Alright. Alright. I think we got enough to go off of for that. Yeah. I think so. Alright. Next item on the agenda is the community center playground proposed designs. Yep. So those are as well in there because I got some updated ones.
They originally did it, and then, they forgot to put the climbing wall that we had wanted on this thing. So the first one is from the wetter, and they're the ones that actually also did the ash tree plans. And they worked with the the soft play company to do the designs. So you can see them here. I can scroll through here up here too. But I tell you, you look for a pamphlet. What is going on at the top there? This? It's like it's a glow. It's it's like, your plastic. It's like chalk off or something. And then they put the climbing wall on over here.
And so obviously, all of these are all, like, enclosed. They just don't put that on here. You can see what's in the equipment. I also had them add in this. It just looked like a lot of fun. And they were talking about how they just had someone in their communities and put it in. And they said, the grown ups are probably on it just as much as the kids. That this is really a family thing. I like this way more than the first proposal. Yeah. Yes. That that they had. Yes. It's yes. I showed them the other one that we had, and they tried to, like, kinda match what it is. So Yeah. Yeah. So I think it looks a lot better than,
yeah, the original one that we saw. Yeah. That looks fun. Some things that they brought up. So they're really nice to work with. They are from Minnesota. They're so I like they're local. They respond quickly. I like that. The other company is not I'm I'm a little more nervous, but I think they can offer at a better price. But that is my 2¢ on that. They did talk about flooring, and I think that's included in their thing. And they they do the tile. It's the most cost effective, which is kind of what I found as well. And a lot of and a lot of the places where the kids come out,
that's really the only spot they say you really need tile. You don't need tile in the whole room necessarily. True. If if there's not equipment in it. Yes. So it's just where they're coming down off a slide or steps or something. Right. So that's something to think about. I mean, we could do the whole room. The other thing they with this, it is anchored into the floor, and so we have to allow for space for that or whatever as well. One of the reasons this was brought right away is the contractor for the community center is really pushing for us to make a decision because they need to start
planning how they're gonna pour the floor and to what depth do we need to anchor it. What are we gonna do with lighting? How high is this going to go? So they are starting to plan all those things and order what they need, and they need a decision on this. Like, I'm hoping we can decide on something tonight because they really are pushing for this. I just hope that's the thing that you're doing the other one. You like this one better? The soft plate is overall smaller. It's not as small. It is a little smaller. Not as small. Yep. The capacity is not as big. Oh. It's true. Because this said the surface area is 576.
That can't be right. One says one eleven, the other says five seventy six. And then, which one Only one child play capacity for soft play says 52, whereas Go Play is 95. That's that first one like this one. Yeah. This is the soft play. The red and yellow is soft play. Yeah. And then the gold plate system Gold plate. Which they're, like, basically online and No worries. This guy named Victor emails me. I'm sure it's like Gordon Roan would be locked down upstairs. Right. And so I just he didn't he I always have to ask for the cost.
He never sends it. But that's where it was for delivered and installed. They do not anchor it. It doesn't need to be anchored. I'm guessing it just stays on its own. But that's delivered and installed. I'm guessing we'd probably still put the flooring in of some sort. Mhmm. But, yeah, this is the system. And then I did ask them as well to add the climbing wall like the other one. So that is there as well. I like that the climbing wall doesn't have a net above it, the blue one. Like, the other ones were enclosed. Right? Like, the other ones were enclosed. Yeah. And I just feel like it limits your climbing ability. Are kids gonna try and climb on the outside of it?
For sure. That wall, though? They are. There's gonna be net up there, though, or something. So they won't be able to do that. They might try, I guess. I don't know. But there'll be much to this, but yeah. Right. And then Guess you could see the inside of this blue one more. Yeah. You know, like, how this other one has those little boxes of what each thing looks like? I think that last page on Go Play is trying to show you the inside. This one? So Weber is a Minnesota based company? The the one that's the the red and yellow coloring. Yeah. The Weber. Yeah. It's Weber recreation. Mhmm. Yep. They've been very easy to work with.
Not that I'm gonna push it either way because we should get the right system. Is honesty. Gold play, I found online. They've never even asked to, like, do a video call with me or they just sent me this plan. And, and that's the cheaper one. I wish you could feel it. Like, when that expensive because it doesn't even put the flooring. Does. Okay. But I feel like there's more to it. Yeah. There's there's a lot more to it. But then we again, the flooring would be on top of that where the other quote has the flooring included. So I feel like there's more, like, little levels. But when you look at what's inside of it, it's all I feel like there's more inside of the other one.
Thing I will mention. The Weber, the one the red and yellow one Yeah. They're, like, cubes Yeah. Are bigger. And the reason is so that if parents need to get into it, they can get into it easier and more comfortably. And for the person who has to clean it, having the larger cubes makes that easier as well. So that's something I'll mention as well. But because I noticed that too that they're like right? There's more levels that those cubes are smaller. They are. And when you look at all the different items that's in the red and yellow one, like, you have a spinner thing that you hang on to. You have these ropes that you crawl through,
a gate that you go over. This seems like I don't know. I know. I feel like going off of that one because it would get popped. I feel like you have those little blue steps. Those foamy blue steps you go up. Those things that you crawl over, those diagonal things, and then just the balls at the top. Hey, Angela. Unless I'm missing something. I was wondering in the agenda of price at $1.48 is listed, that was before they put in the climbers. Okay. The climbing walls, I should say. So they're different than what was in the packet because I got Just a couple
of slides. Updated proposals today. So with the climbing walls, soft is smaller and more expensive. Two? But that's because they're jerked. Oh, I this one's cooler. I know. I was wondering, like, ugh. Well I like it. There's more. An email from Jerica, she mentioned that she's in favor of the whole place, so not the blue one. Yeah. She feels like it just would be better, and the community center would offer more. She doesn't wanna skimp on the appointment. She she mentioned how she really wants to make sure that we get the right appointment in there even if it costs us more money. Yeah. Which I guess, when you look at it. Is there any way to get a,
I suppose, get a quote on the flooring too that would go on top of it? Well, I'm guessing what we would end up doing is doing the the the foam squares and putting them in ourselves probably or we could hire some I suppose to. We're probably looking at least 20,000. When I've looked at the cost for them, just like to buy them for the space that we're here. I have no idea. Except for just around the playground, not in the whole room? It would be that would be for the whole room. It would be 20,000. Oh, go find it. Maybe we do just around it or where people where the kids come out. Yeah. I don't I didn't I didn't know about that little tidbit when I put together
that number. Yeah. And there's different levels of tile as well. I went with kind of, about a little bit higher end. The cheapest one I saw, it would be 10,000 for the same model space. But that's not including installation. So so this one would this cost more to be sold. I have to buy the flooring and have it installed. The blue the blue set on top of what I've already done with these. And so what we're Well, I, yeah. I don't know. No. I did look through these before we started the meeting again now, and I'm thinking long term durability,
long term use, your round use, birthday parties, that you have access to events where they rented. I I like the Weber one. I know it says it's, like, max of '52, and the other one says '95. But I'm thinking 365 to 8 you know, whatever. You know, we're gonna have it open for renting and that. I think 52 is reasonable. If there's an event or something, it might be a little higher than that, and then you just kind of don't monitor it. Thousand dollars. Mhmm. I'd like like, they were mentioning down there, I like the many different activities built into it to keep it going.
And then, you know, we said, well, can you have stuff like on the walls for me to touch or spin? That one includes a math one. It includes another shape one. I I I freely admit I don't have smaller children who utilize this, but, hopefully, someday grandchildren. But long term value, versatility, and that I think the Weber one would be a better buy, especially now that they're including that climbing wall part. I mean, when you look at it like this, it kinda It looks looks cool. It's fun. It does. I know. I really like that light thing. Which one? This thing. I forget too.
Was there, highlight that for me? Need to have, like, decisions made and stuff set up. They would like one. Yeah. Tonight is a is a as soon as possible. I mean, if there's a few, like, small questions that would sway you one way or the other, I can certainly ask them tomorrow, and I'd probably get an answer within a day or so. But that's what we're looking at now. I mean, if there's just something that's gonna push you one way or the other, I can ask and that we can make that decision that way. But I'm really torn. I don't know. I like the idea of parents being able to get in there and get their
kids out because Cleaning too because I've had to do that. Kids, and kids sometimes get sick when they're on playground equipment. So going in and cleaning it up, that would be Where they get hurt? Overall, long term Yep. You have to climb up there and find them. I think long term too, I like that it's into the ground into the cement versus sitting on top of it. That's got me a little leery. Just thinking how that's gonna hold up over time. I need a mock up with kids playing on this thing too. That would help make sense. Put them on just hanging from the air on the So I think the blue one looks like the most fun.
If I were a kid, I'd be like, I wanna play in the blue one. It's bigger too. I mean, by quite a bit. Yeah. But a few hesitations are we don't know this company. It's a lot of money. What if it's not as durable as the other one? They're not anywhere near us to come and fix it. It'd be nice to keep use of Minnesota company too. You know? But then this is our one shot to put in some really awesome equipment. Do you know if this blue or red material is any padded or,
like, is it, like, a soft? Yeah. It's yeah. Padded. Yep. On both of them. It's not like it's not like a hard surface. Like a loop and that is not padded. Oh, really? Knees. Not really. I took my nephew there and he went through it twice and he was like, alright. My, like, knees are hurting. I'm done. So that would be my reflection that this is is padded. I don't know. I'm just so torn here. And that there are these both geared to the same age group? Right? Okay. I like that there's little slides in here in the blue one. So There's a little slide in the If we went with Go Play,
how much are we estimating the flooring to be? When I did estimation for the whole floor, because I didn't know about the you can just do the part where they come off. For so, like, 2.7 square feet tiles are seems to be pretty standard. We would need 547. If they're $35 each, that's $19,000 to cover the entire floor. I'm I didn't work. So the same tile at $18.50 is, like, $1,010,000 dollars. So it didn't mean that the quote is already right. The one seven years,
I think. Right? $1.60. So we're looking at least another 20,000. And I don't know how hard is this all this tile for. Someone from the city could do it or not, but, probably looking at 200 total on this one. Because, yeah, that's what I would guess. Okay. I have two more questions. This thing from this other one, how much is that? Because Should we I should have them in there. I can't remember that. She's already designing her backyard. No. I think we should still get that even if we go with the blue one. I don't know.
What were you looking at? That thing that she added extra that all the adults also like to play with. Looks like something that you and your kids would do together. Adults on it. Oh. Let's see if I can Is that the generic four player for a while? Yeah. Is that included in the quote? Yeah. Yeah. Oh. It should be. Yeah. It it is. The stomp. Stomp player. Is that what you do? You stomp and see who can stomp the artist? I don't know. I think it's something wrong. Yeah. Here's a picture right here. Oh, they sent you all this? It's, $10. Short. $11.
Oh, yes. Yep. There it is. Yep. Can you change the colors of the blue one? Yep. Mhmm. You can do any of these in pretty much any color you wanna do. Also in Jerica's email, she did suggest for the she wants the she would like to see the playground at the community center maybe not quite so more neutral to fit the surroundings in the community center. Yeah. So I was gonna ask, is there a color theme for the community center? Is it, like, green and yellow for Dewworth colors, or is it gonna be more green? No. They have a little bit of green in there, and there's, like, a little bit of gold in some of the stuff.
It's pretty neutral. Yeah. Neutral stuff. Yep. We have a little thing. I don't know what it is. Yeah. I took a picture of it, but I'm sure you can. I don't know why it even is. Let me see if I can find it quickly. Yeah. So the agent concerns about it not being angered. Like, are we worried that it's gonna be so heavy it's not gonna be removed? I'm just thinking if you have enough kids on it, how is that gonna stay put? So how would that be on those what seems sound. Right. Like, when there's, like, shift When it shifts on the and if the ground settles a little bit, is that gonna cause issues down the road?
Yeah. Maybe that's something to ask them. How do we guarantee that this is structurally sound and the safety? Feel like that's the one we go with and and if they can ensure the safety of it not being injured. Is that how we're feeling? Mhmm. What are you asking? This is such a tough decision. I know it's like you have the fun versus the practical. I just, you know So the blue one overall would be more expensive. Right? Yes. Strictly talking cost for me, it would be the soft clay. But I think the blue one would be more I don't know.
Maximum value. I agree with that. Right. And so as we've just test like, I told you that they need to know for the flooring. So these two systems are very different. This one has to be anchored four inches into the floor, so they have to plan for that. So that is one of the decisions they need made, and both of our systems are are completely different. It'd be different if we're both two systems that have the same kind of anchoring or whatever. Mhmm. But they're very different, and that will make a a difference for them. So they need that's why they need to have the decision. And then also we have to kind of think of the lighting.
The blue one does go almost to ceiling. Is it gonna be, like, blocking lights then? I don't know what kind of lighting is. Around the plan. Mhmm. Right. I don't know if it's, like, recessed lighting. I don't know. I haven't seen anything about what kind of lighting's in there, but it might have a bearing on it. We can maybe still change whatever it is if we did go to the ceiling. And they also, the other thing is stop thing needs to be powered so either there needs to be power in the floor to it or other places have taken power from the ceiling down. But then you have a floor hanging.
Yeah. I think it should be on the floor. And so if we did it again, they would need to be able to plan for that. So where are we gonna find an extra $100,000? So they don't have to do the flooring that needs to be anchored? Is it gonna be less money and they can just send that flooring money for the playground? I'm sorry. What? Well, if they don't need to do the thicker flooring to anchor the equipment Mhmm. Is flooring gonna cost us money? We should get the extra money. So can we get the extra money? Oh, I don't know that it would really change much. But We're not diving this. That's Yeah. It all becomes a line item in it.
So, like, if they don't send it, it's used somewhere else. Not like, oh, we've budgeted for this. We're gonna keep it in our pocket. Yeah. It's not like that. Let's do just one less pickleball court. So I what I if I had time, what I would do is probably research, like, anchored versus not anchored for these things and really see if there's, like, a safety issue, I guess. That would be I don't know how it stay it would stay put. Like, that's just really weird to me. But then would this huge company be selling these huge equipments if they didn't stay put in? Right. That's true. I mean that's right.
I can pull up their website here. Let me look at it a little bit if it helps. I have a 2.5 star rating out of nine. Oh. Out of nine people. You say out of nine? Nine people. Right. So they I mean, they it's expensive what they have. It's yeah. They're in the top 20. I don't know. So they they do sell a lot. Yeah. I don't know that yeah. They would have as much to offer if they weren't selling their product. Right. And people, I'm guessing, are coming back. I don't right. I don't know that it would be a terrible option.
No. That top one that was had black on the exterior. Scroll up a little bit. They Go on top left corner. That one. Those colors look kinda cool. Like that black outline looks nice. Yeah, they even have where you can, like Yeah, that looks nice. Go through it. Oh. Sure. Oh, I'm sorry. Right down here. I mean, I've seen some, great reviews on this. Okay. Mainly about durability from Go Play. Was this one on there? Let's do the No. Ours was, like, put together for us.
Right? We're like, can we just that one comes? Yeah. Right. You know, it's kinda cool that they have the visual because it's so hard to tell from the pictures, But Right. Yeah. My I don't know. I haven't been with Jerica. I wanted to be nice and big and attractive, and people wanna come play on it. And that seems like it's the blue one, but cost wise, ugh. It's a little scary. Well, I'm sorry. I have too many papers. What was the cost of the other one? Final cost is $1.73 For the yellow one. And that's with flooring and with that fund. That sounds like that's right out the door,
$1.73. Yeah. But then the flooring for the blue one, the 20,000 we're talking about is doing that whole room, which this one isn't talking about doing the whole room. So really, you could cut the cost down a lot on the flooring. We yeah. We it it might not be 20,000. It could be less. Right. If you just did at the exits or whatever. And what was how much was the blue one? One it's $1.60. $1.60 would be more boring is what it was. So if we add even I mean, I bet it could be close. I don't know if we use so much stuff in the real world.
160, 1 143. Delivered and installed. Just the flooring. Just the flooring. I bet that'll be pretty equivalent except for we don't get that fun light up game. I mean, that's something I suppose you could add later to, you know. Yeah. We've talked about that, like, adding getting the main thing and then as time goes on adding other elements. Right. They might have something like that maybe. And then I'll add $10,000. I don't know. Do we vote on it? Do an informal pull, like,
you have to pick one right now? I guess my biggest concern, at least I'm seeing online, is durability and maintenance for Go Play, the blue one. Did we look up the other one? I did not. When I was looking it up, it said it's durable, but made aided zero five. For the Soft Play one? That's what I was kinda wondering if this is more for the sort of Little? Littler kids. But I mean, who's gonna be renting it? Probably families that Who's the one that's nine, she wouldn't do this at the same time anymore.
Yeah. My kids will go because I bring their little ones. Yeah. You know, it's like, yeah. I don't know. I bet our kids will play on it. I was gonna say Let's get real. They would. They would play on it, but Yeah. If they're gonna pick a birthday party, I don't know that that would be what they'd pay. Definitely. Or we sit so she can talk to the contractor. Do you think a poll? Are you ready? I am. I think softly. Cost and durability wise, I'd probably say soft play. I'll go with soft play, Weber. I'd have to agree with soft play, and I think it gives us a little more space too if we wanna add stuff later. I would say gold play.
I don't get to vote, but if you wanna hear what I have to say, I'll say gold play. I guess, I don't know if we count Jared or Krish triple this looks like. But it still is in favor of soft play. I do like the idea of maybe doing something later because this does leave some room. Mhmm. Where is room now? I think we have the reputation with the company that might be a little bit better long term. Or the other one might be What was the size of our room again? Was it 40 or 35 by the room? It's yeah. I have a it's 1,475 square feet each that I'm gonna put down.
I think it's 35 by 40. 35 by 40. Soft play is 16 by 16 by 20. Go play is 24 by 24. I guess the other thing we'd have to consider if we did the soft play play and we wanted to expand, is the room gonna look half empty if we don't center the play system? Because if we center it, that limits our addition options, but if we put it to the side, what are we doing on the other part? I feel like leaving the space open all leaves, I don't know, some room to run, but I you're right. I get what you're saying. It might look like I mean, do we put,
like, some big exercise ball? Yeah. We could probably find some little stuff to put in there too. If we if we were looking to spend 200,000 on Go Play, we go soft play, that leaves still some money. But I don't think Go Play is 200,000. Like, where are you getting 200,000? I guess with that. I was thinking of the flooring. But that would only be $1.80, and that's if we did the whole entire room. Yeah. So really, it's still probably only $1.75. I don't know. It's I think it's hard. I think either I don't think we can go wrong with either one,
ultimately. Well I mean, this yeah. I don't know. It's so hard because you want the Minnesota company with the durability that you want. The the room is 35 by 35, Angela? 35 by 40. 35 by 40. So that means we got five and a half feet on one side of the equipment because it's 24 by 24. For the the Nine feet or Five and a half. If we'd center it on the outsides of it. Mhmm. Is that enough room? I believe so. With this one, we would have to put it in the corner. Yeah. Don't you think?
I would center this big one. Yeah. The soft play one, they designed so it could go in a corner. That's kinda what I had mentioned. What I was just about to ask, the soft play looks like it has at least one side where that nobody would be able to climb into because it's netted off where Yep. Go play looks like you can get in from anywhere. Three sixty. So we'd have to go in that one. To be half five and a half in the eight feet. K. There's spare room in there. Yeah. I mean, it fits, but then if you wanna do something later, you're really gonna be on the wall. Yes. Yeah.
I mean, five feet is like that's If it's not terribly big. No. I think I talk myself in the corner. Soft play for me, for sure. That's where I'm at. I think, you know, people like a little kid picnic table across from the game thing where those, like, $200 tops. And so there's little kid seats, the electric game, and sock play. Mhmm. Mhmm. Well, and some other chairs in there for parents. And Yeah. Where if we did the bigger structure, you're free. Your chairs in there, what are you gonna Yeah.
Bunk chairs, toes. You'd have to have a designer put it or anything. I don't think you could send me that big one. No. Alright. Is that it? An official motion? Do we have official player. Do we have an official motion for that? Do you I I think you should. Do we have a motion to go ahead with the soft play webber design community center? I'll jump out on a limb, and I'll make a motion to go with soft play webber for the community centers starting of a indoor play system. All set, Bennett. In favor? Aye. Opposed?
Thanks. Do it. Feels good sometimes to say no. Alright. So next item I think it was just the Cell Review of the CellSight Social. Yep. So we'll have a discussion. Any feedback on that? No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No cream next time. I mean, I will no scooping the ice cream next time. Yeah. Let's not do that. We should get individually wrapped treats. Ice cream treats. Or like bars or something. I want cookies. Ice cream made such a mess. It was awful.
I don't ever wanna do that again. It was like a good intention. I was there with you. I'm not arguing. I mean, it's just like, what's going on? That was wonderful. I it was an idea. Yeah. But it just It just didn't pan out. Right. It's probably better than what we said. Let's try it. If it doesn't work this year, we can do it the next year. Mhmm. Because even if we were to go to ice cream sandwiches or, you know, any treat like that, that still requires really, really good freezing to keep it that way. No. I don't think we should do frills and things. So cookies or something other kind of a treat?
Yeah. Or we could make, like, rice crispy bars and get shit out of a cookie. Mhmm. You know? You know? Yeah. The if it was inside, like, at the depot, at least you got a fridge and you got a freezer there, and you you got more control over it. That that would be I agree with you, girls. I mean, I was up there scooping and Greg with you. Wash hands. It was too Yeah. Yeah. Can we combine it somehow with summer rec? Because with the summer rec programs with T ball and soccer. We're losing how many kids Oh. With parents with stuff going on that way.
Yeah. I wasn't there. I forgot all about it because I had to bring my six year old to soccer in Holly, and then we got thunderstormed on. So just something to think about. Is there some way we kinda get that group in there too? Yeah. I think that's a good idea. I don't know where we do it. There I mean, there is two or even DGF Baseball Club. But, yeah, t ball or something out there at the same time and then Isn't there, like, a booklet of, like, summer activities that goes out? Yeah. So what if, like, that just, like, the Southside social went in that booklet? And,
like, on this day, there's no summer activities for this event. I can't imagine them skipping one evening of the summer would really Like, it would almost be worth it though to have t ball there because there's so much of parents and kids. Yeah. Like, if your practice is out at Cottonville at this site, it's That has to be there pretty much. I mean, how many t ball teams are there? Oh, there's Quite a few. Six. Right. Six. And then how many you got the parents and they how many A 100 people you have. Let it like, he was in that field that night too. Oh, yeah. 16 season. Yeah. That's how we ended this season.
Yeah. And then do we just rotate it? Like, what every I mean, do we have to talk with, community ed for sure, but do they play again for thirty minutes and have the next team come in? So that way What did they do the at the end there? That's exactly what they did in the last Yeah. Night was thirty minutes. And just do it that way. And then they just rotate it and put each other watch. And community so that way we're using the ball field too. Yeah. And I think the farmers market, which we had some people there, not as much as the first year, but we had some show up that would give them more of them incentive to come and put their little tents up.
And granted, it's probably early for them with their produce, but, you know, we give them some kind of more incentive to do that. Because there was a lot of unutilized space off the field. Like, even the blow up things could have been on, you know, off the field, you know, because of the outfield and that. So, you know, there is still space there to use in that area where we could keep what we got, add even a little more farmer's market, have the rotating games go through. How was I think it's for us to check it out. Situation. When I came through five months, we're right behind each other. Same
thing as last year? I was about ten or fifteen minutes because I was behind her, and she was there already. So I don't know how long you were already waiting. I think I waited half hour. Oh my. Yeah. But I don't think anyone else waited. Like, I waited to go help set up, and then after that, I didn't hear any complaints Oh, okay. So and we were there earlier. I was like, oh, yeah. Let's cruise in. I went around it. Do you have I think I went around it too. I didn't even try. I was gonna say, if if you didn't even try a pamphlet, we can put a suggestion into it. If you wanna avoid any chances with the train,
take this road. I feel like we shouldn't know that. Do we know how the farmers market people did at all? I don't. You know, I've been meaning to reach out. We've been so busy in the office lately. But, Just know if it was worth our time at all? Like, I'm not if it was even worth their time to set up? I don't know. Yeah. Especially with that cut short and everything. Right. And there were supposed to be four and then two dropped out and yeah. I don't know. I think the idea was good. Yeah. But I think, you know, I mean, it was free to them. They didn't have to pay. So I think if we keep going with that, I think people will still try.
You know what I mean? Better than paying 50, a 100, whatever they pay at other vendor shows. You know? I don't know. I think the helicopter went over well. Yep. Yeah. Mhmm. And I liked actually, this year, I liked how fire parked across the park, not by where the food was. Yeah. Right up front. You know, like less than a fire than coughs than food. So I think it was nice to have things spread out. Mhmm. I I agree with that. I think adding the community thing is a good idea. Other than that, I'll I thought it was good. I like helicopter.
I liked I believe that's Tammy Talson that does that connection. I've got connections. You can I'd send her an email and we see if she's open to it. Yes. I think she would be. Yeah. It was definitely an improvement from the first one. This one's there. And we Theresa. Yeah. We can hold up just like the Theresa. I was gonna say one's my mom, one's my cousin. I know. I can see the face and, yeah, it's Yeah. Been a long day. Her assistant is my goddaughter's mother. So I could Yeah. I can Perfect. I could I could totally reach out and send her an email and get back to you on that. That's all. Yeah. I think that'd be fun.
See if we can work something out. I think you should put traffic down there. Yeah. I think that's good. I think for the prizes, we should bring another table. Like, I don't think we have enough tables because they were so close, and it's hard for the kids to figure out which thing to put them in. So I can bring a couple tables for this. I'm gonna note we have one prize left to be picked up and it's Jerica's. Oh. She won? As her kids won. Oh, okay. And the last prize sitting in our office. There were some good prizes and gift cards this year.