All right, Paul, welcome. Thank you for coming back and uh sharing another hour with us training and look forward to next month. talk a little bit about
two weeks. Great. Are we good? >> All right. Well, thanks for having me back. I appreciate uh the opportunity to come work with you all again. Today we're you know just about an hour. First we'll
talk a little bit about governance and uh the idea we had some conversation was to try to target a little bit about what usually takes place uh sort of like governance 2011 instead of one 101 uh since a lot of you have been keeping up with all your governance training and um you're in a good place for that. So I I
customized this a little bit to be based on what governance 2 felt like for some of you which is student achievement but also wanted to introduce some uh ideas about you know truths that came out of a particular study that school boards likes to uh talk about. So we'll walk through that. There'll be some opportunity to share a little bit here
and there but nothing too major. I know you still have a meeting ahead of you and I don't want to put you on the spot. So we'll do some of that and then as Scott said we'll talk about your board self-evaluation process. So you do it if you've been doing it for a while, you still need a refresher in my opinion. I
do. Let me say it that way. I always need a refresher before I do something again. So we'll do that, but I'll also be able to point out um a couple of things that are specific to you all when we get to that point. So um okay, I guess we'll jump right in. Excellent.
Okay. So, um we're going to start off by talking about student achievement in the context of something called uh the Lighthouse Study, the Iowa Lighthouse Study. So, um chances are you can nod if you've heard about it before through New Jersey school boards. Uh yeah, I see a couple
of heads nodding. It's a landmark study uh that was done over a decade really 1998 to 2007. And the heart of the study um or what came out of the study is sort of almost a contrast between high achieving districts and what they how
they perform what they know uh what their beliefs are and comparing that sort of or contrasting that to districts that maybe aren't so high achieving. So there were some um some interesting information that came out of that. Now, in the initial uh governance two that
New Jersey school board does with you all, we often focus on the data, but I'm going to focus on the five uh truths that came out of that. And I think that's more applicable in this kind of context right now because we're going to, you know, spend about only a half hour or so on it. Um so again, uh the
lighthouse study spent nearly a decade examinating examining what separates average districts from exceptional ones. And um when you distill that down, uh I came up with five truths that came out of that study. In this particular um
graphic, it looks at it as if they're steps. Um when I first saw it that way, I wasn't sure if they are steps, but I think you can argue that they are. So why don't we walk through them as if they are. So the five enduring truths that frame um effective governance that
came out of the study are first and foremost expectations. So it's the mindset. So what the board expects and what the district expects. So that's the board in in uh in collaboration with the administration. Uh if their expectations are high, I mean this is obvious but it's important to be mindful of that. Um
if the expectations are high and there's a belief in success, then it's possible. Uh the second step is conditions the environment. So resourcing that uh those expectations to to foster student achievement and then another
step would be focus the strategy of course um so when you start to come up with your strategy has to be focused and you have to direct the resources toward it. There's the data piece. I know one of your goals was uh focused on student achievement and data. So it's it's kind
of great that it's there's a connection to that here. So measuring that you're you're focused and that you're you're achieving your results. And then the last step and the the fifth pillar or enduring truth is commitment. Sustaining the effort over time. So we'll explore
those just a little bit one at a time. First truth uh first truth one expectations set the ultimate ceiling for results as as I had uh as I mentioned. So high achieving boards act on the unc uncompromising belief that all children can learn uh systematically
eliminating excuses from the boardroom lexicon. A board's words and actions possess a powerful in you ultimately get what you expect. Here's an example. So this slide I'm going to walk through a little bit of of it. Um the three examples and then maybe
ask you to just talk to your person next to you and see if you can come up with a good example. uh what might be considered a low achieving mindset versus so examples the first one other schools don't have the challenges we face you know I've spent 31 years in education I
was in multiple school districts and uh if you ever had that creep into your mindset that was problematic this idea that well other schools don't have the challenges we face therefore it's okay for our expectations to be where they are which is lower than they should be let's say so um the high achieving
mindset to contrast with that is that we can't let anything stand in the way of student learning. So if there's something a barrier, if there's an obstacle, well, we got to nail it. We have to take care of it. What are we going to do about it? Don't don't tell us only the reasons about why there's barriers, why it's a challenge, why
there are challenges, but um what do we have to do about that? Uh and then another example of low achieving mindset would be some kids just want to be average with average jobs. Okay, so what's going to happen there? If your expectations are, hey, let's meet them at the average level because they want
to be average. We should help them be average. Well, a higher achieving mindset would be something more along the line of every one of our students has unlimited potential. And that's kind of idealistic, but we do know about multiple intelligences. We do know that people are have um special skills in all
different areas. And the idea is to find them, right? So, every student can be wildly successful uh we should think in something. They have these skills. We have to uh unleash them. we have to identify them and help them uh achieve their unlimited potential. And then a an
example of a third low achieving mindset would be uh we know from day one there's not much we can do for some students. What a what an excuse that is, right? So you know this is the no excuses zone here. So there is no status quo. Past standards aren't good enough for today's students. So that's the difference
between and uh you know having a low achieving mindset and turning it around so that's more high achieving. So, I want to give you not just too, you know, not too much time, but if you can, you know, maybe talk to someone next to you, uh, you have a little separation over there, so you might have to use sign language, but, um, so, uh, think about
something that might be considered, uh, a challenge. Not that it's a mindset any of you at this table would have because I know you wouldn't, but something that, uh, maybe if you're not being mindful of the mindset you should have, what's a a challenge right now that you're facing? And then maybe that's the game we can
play. what would be like sort of the the low achieving mindset for that challenge. What would be a higher achieving mindset for that challenge? So, I guess it starts with that. So, I'm going to do that thing where we actually have to have awkward quiet from me for a minute. Sorry. Um and uh give you a
chance to process that and then we'll jump right back in. But just take a few minutes to to think about that. Let's see. Okay, let's give you about 30 more seconds. Okay. So, I I did over here uh a couple of
ideas. So, that's great. We can share those. Um spend just a little bit of time with that. Uh, I know there's one that every single district I heard one that I know every district is probably tackling and addressing now, but I won't let it come up organically rather than put it right out there. But, um, anybody
like to share? >> Okay. Thank you. So students opportunity And then the second one was having mess with I appreci I appreciate those very much. Thank you for that conversation. I I
especially like the language barrier one because there's just uh we don't have to accept that and where there's just so many different ways to address that and and being relentless. So great and and the other one as well. Great. That's a great start. What else?
So we we reframe that as a uh positive in that we have this our students um ability to be biiterate is actually a strength. Right? We had almost 200 students this year who earned the seal of biiteracy
which is far more than many other districts. So that's actually a benefit and a strength of our district. >> Excellent. Yeah, the seal of biiteracy that that's that's your data as well uh that you're addressing in a high achieving way. Great.
more. >> I mean, we talked that we feel we're really on the high achieving side with everything that we're working towards. And the concern is when funding starts getting pulled,
how do we adjust to continue being high achieving with less money? And so I think it's been proven in the past that you can, but we just have to keep focused on the high achieving whether the money's there or not. >> Excellent point. We have to stay focused
on high achieving and giving students what they need to continue being successful the way they have been uh despite the financial constraints. Uh I I can't help but share because I was in education for a long time until just a few years ago that that would come up
every year. we're going back 15 maybe 20 years where it would be like there you know there's a cap we don't have funds and it's tempting to say you know what are we going to cut and you get that mindset as opposed to how are we going to maintain so to have gone through and I feel like it es and flows it's almost like yeah I I I'll speak for me there
were times as the curriculum guy I was like I give up we can't do the programs anymore this is nope nope you have to change that mindset we got to continue to perform where we've been and and find ways to give the students what it is they need so uh that's a tough one but yeah just, you know, being relentless on
the idea that high student achievement is is a goal every year for you all. Yeah. Anything else? Okay. Thank you. That was fantastic. Sometimes you put one of these little I call it micro activities together because, you know, there's a there's a bit of a time constraint when it's a
regular board meeting like this. Um, and when you participate, it makes it all worthwhile. So, thank you. Uh, okay. So, we'll go on to truth two now. Truth two boards boards engineer the ecosystem the environment for learning through three core conditions. Um so one is so the the
triad of conditions. One is curriculum one is professional development in support of the curriculum. So the teachers have to understand the curriculum and uh instructional practices that might be innovative and new that are being introduced. And then uh a third uh piece of that is allocating the resources ensuring
materials and personnel are available and effective. Okay. So this is a way of looking at just the curriculum focus for now. Uh legal mechanics of shaping the curriculum. First box on the left, all new courses significant and significant alterations to courses coursework
require a recorded roll call majority vote. So what that means is uh board members have an opportunity whether it's on a committee that's focused on learning could be the curriculum committee some folks call it or or the learning committee, education committee.
um they will focus a a little deeper dive on curriculum and bring questions and information to the board table. And of course the superintendent and his staff are are focused on any kinds of curriculum updates and you ask questions, you learn and then you're
able to to vote uh have an informed vote. So that's based on that first statute over there. And then the second part, the board officially selects required reading textbooks. This caveat's important though, does not apply to self- selected or supplementary reading. So, it's really the books that
the textbooks that that every student will use that are connected specifically to that curriculum. That's um that's the one that the board is involved with as far as um approving those. And then the third piece of that is that the board ensures curriculum aligns with New Jersey student learning standards. So,
that's another piece. It's usually the the committee that oversees so the board committee that's connected to curriculum uh will will be um you know the the the course revisions or new coursework is uh presented to that committee and then to the board and of course their standards
should be aligned and they're done in writing that way or you know in whatever uh tool you're using. So that's important. Then there's the equity focus the educational equity focus. So the ecosystem still uh must have a systemic uh commitment to educational equity. What does that mean? Well, equity in the
middle and then the uh different uh uh environments where uh there has to be focus to make sure that educational equity is maintained. So, one access to 504 and BSI basic skills uh instruction,
two, English as a second language, three special education and gifted programs, four equitable funding and school climate. And five, highly qualified certified teachers. Uh those are all areas that um if you know when done well having focus and attention and
mindfulness spent on those areas um then educational equity is possible. All right. How about truth three? Truth three, strategic focus always uh beats raw activity. That's really important. So um you cannot do everything at once
and sometimes that's a temptation uh in a school district. high achieving districts narrow their focus. And there's uh there's one example that you'll get to play around with for a second, but it is especially uh true when you have your focus in the
beginning of the year and then over the course of the year during meetings you might have a lot of public input and they're very a concern develops about something else that might not have been on the radar earlier. So that's a that's a situation where you do have to figure well how can we address that without losing our focus. we have to stay
focused. Um the use of clear, measurable goals is the most common theme in districts making significant gains. It seems easy to just say, well, let's go back to the goals. But that really is the best way to do it. And doing the work isn't easy, but going back to the goals, it's like uh when I was in a, you
know, when I was in my districts, uh somebody had a question, the first thing you said was, "What does the policy say?" Like, "Let's start with the thing that everybody spent all those hours working on, and that in the end, that's what dictates what we have to do. So, let's focus on that." So similarly, goals help with that focus. And that's why I'm glad we're going to be talking
about those in a few minutes. Um, and yeah, collaborative goal setting results in non-negotiable targets, ensuring resources, time, money, and personnel are fiercely protected from distractions. And that's a great way that the board supports the administration. The administration has a
job to do. They get to work. It's going well, and in a sense, that work needs to be protected. And that's a great um feature of what boards do for for their school districts. Okay, so this is another bit a little bit more on staying focused. So the squiggly one on the left is the lack of
clarity. So when boards adopt too many initiatives, the system clogs, staff members become overwhelmed and the primary student needs are lost in the noise. And then on the right, of course, if you're filtering through uh focus single tightly focused goal, resources naturally align to support directive
direct services to students. So, it's really just a question of uh staying clear and focused keeps you from having that jumble of directions and staying focused through a filter of uh of focus and clear goals. Okay. So, here's just uh I think it's
only your your only other micro activity for the evening. Surviving the initiative funnel. So, this is the scenario I was uh mentioning a little earlier. So, let's say that a passionate community group attends a board meeting demanding a brand new highly visible extracurricular STEM initiative. Is that
a bad thing? No, it's not. Um, it sounds fantastic, but it does not align with your three tightly focused annual goals for early literacy. Okay. So, um, and this is this is hypothetical. I didn't make this specific for do in pairs this.
So, just chat a little bit as you did before about well, how how do you respond to that? So, of course, uh, the board the community comes up whether you respond at the meeting. Um, you know, every board handles things differently. You might respond at the meeting where the PE where folks come up to to, you
know, try to entice you into addressing this the a new STEM initiative or maybe it comes back at the next meeting when you've had a chance to process and provide an answer. But what might that answer look like? It's not like some group of um you know community members have asked you for something way out of line. Um so think about that for a
minute process and we'll jump right back in. Maybe just give it about 60 seconds for you to chat a bit. Sorry. Okay, let's start to bring it back. Yeah. Yeah. >> I was trying to pick up. They were having fun with it over here and I was
making sure them. Yeah. So, anyway. All right. So, >> let's bring it back. Uh, yeah. So, what What what can we say? Would would you like to share [laughter] >> this or that? >> The the Okay. Yes. What we would say,
not what anybody would suspect. We would say basically it would just be that you know it's a something to but you know it's difficult in the middle of a school year to pivot to something that we don't have you know planned but it's something that we can
look into and see if it's possible to bring it to the curriculum or you know bring it to the the district the following school year. >> Very good. >> Thank you NMS fan. I I I share your misery. >> Yeah. [laughter] We'll get there. Uh more. Yeah,
>> just again that's what we said except we would actually assign it to the curriculum committee and ask them to do the research into what would be necessary to start that program for the next school year. >> Now would you uh when you say assign the
curriculum uh committee so that would mean the board members would bring that to the table of the curriculum committee to have the conversation. >> Yeah. and then bring a recommendation back to the full board when they'd done their research and whatever that entailed. >> Okay. Yes.
>> We also mentioned um piggybacking to both of those with the third component being invite the community members to be part of the committee with a workshop. Would you be willing to sit on a committee? Would you be willing to be a volunteer to give your input?
>> Good. Great. So instead of running from the suggestion saying we don't have any room for that we don't have the you know uh the c uh the um the bandwidth for it we're saying you know yeah let's let's have the conversations let's talk about where it might fit and it might already exist in some ways uh that those
connections can be made or can be uh you know ex extended expanded but and then including the community is a great way to say not only do we want to hear from you um but we want to include you right >> so our superintendent set the Perfect answer. Of course. Everything they said
and better. >> [laughter] >> that helpful. >> No, I I think that a lot of times when committy and STEM trying to So, but a lot of times hearing them out and say, "Okay, we can put this into a
game plan. Maybe not this year, the following year, >> it does help. You're interested in potential, >> right? >> Or it's already in one. It's already in there. They just not might not be aware, >> right? Excellent. All right. So, you're
ready for when that happens." Excellent. Okay. All right. So, now we're up to truth four. um demand data to generate the friction needed for accountability. I'm not sure if I wanted the word demand so much because that gives the suggestion um that um that the school staff that that
can be directed by the board for this report or that report. And I do run into that sometimes as as an FSR as a field service rep in districts where um you know I'll I'll get together with the board and their administration to talk about well you know what kind of data is um appropriate and available assigning
reports to be done because that gets a little you know that gets a little bit uh difficult to manage as I'm s sure your superintendent would would agree that if uh nine board members are all asking for a certain report so that they can um you know hey a lot of you have
great ideas and there's things that you're interested in but of course nine folks so um so when it comes to the data thing I I think the first thing is conversations about what data do we have that's available to us so That of course goes right to the superintendent and his
team. What data do we have because we're curious about this? We don't want to be, you know, board members don't want to be assigning directly to staff even through the superintendent because what does that do? Takes us off our focus of the goals for that year. But uh certainly conversations about well this data
doesn't exist but maybe we can eventually get it. All right. Well, let's talk about that. Should that be a district and andor board goal? Uh therefore we should generate the data. So it's really a bit of timing as well. it almost goes along with the initiative thing when it comes to the data. So, I just wanted to put that sort of
disclaimer on the word demand. Um, what the slide is trying to emphasize though is that what gets measured gets done. Districts that make gains use data relentlessly as a decision-making tool, moving far beyond simply receiving an annual progress report on test results. Um, so I think it's your fourth goal. I
I wrote them down in the next part of the presentation. Uh, I think it's your fourth goal that talks No, no, no. Your fourth goal is on board goals. your first goal is on student achievement and uh there would be data connected to that in some way. So um when making that goal I would imagine
and and I'm hopeful that there was conversations about well how are we going to measure that? So measuring things is daunting um but it's important because if it gets measured it gets done. Um yeah so truth number four data is important. Truth number five so this
is sort of the wrap-up. Um, truth number five is that endurance uh that endurance transforms isolated winds into permanent culture. So, there's a reference to the flywheel concept by Jim Collins. I remember I was I was a an aspiring
administrator when when um Good to Great came out and I did a whole presentation on that and now I'm wondering if anybody's ever heard of it because it's been a little while. Um, but you know, great great book um great conversation. How do you get from good to great? And this concept here is the idea that um
improvement in student learning is a marathon, not a sprint. Because again, it's almost like it interferes with that focus. So if we're moving deliberately ahead together in a collaborative way and and we sort of notch off the successes along the way, guided by goals
and the focus of goals, then we have a good chance of keeping that flywheel sort of spinning. Um and yeah I think I think this um this graphic is a good way to show that. So student success is in the middle that's our you know student achievement
that's our goal and then there are some satellites around that expectations conditions data focus and then around the outside of that is the board commitment. So five is not necessarily a step. That's one of the things I was suggesting in the beginning. But this idea of the board commitment and the
governance flywheel this this God bless you focus and all that is is um how we keep you know moving or or keep working at a very high level uh using the data sustaining the commitment setting the expectations uh funding the conditions
that environment and uh protecting the focus. So, um, yeah, we're going to pause for a second there in case anybody wants to interject. That's just a brief quick, um, sort of re re-energizing of what that, um, study taught us as, as
school board members and, um, you know, hopefully that sort of energizes us going into next year. Any any comments on the study or or just these five points of uh, truth? I just wanted to mention that the the governance an expanded full day governance um program
was put in place the leadership summit for presidents and vice presidents. So this was part of it, but in the context of all the other stuff they presented, um I remember reporting that we are we are really doing a lot of these things and even though we might not get exactly
where we want to be, we keep pushing along and we keep making progress every year and data has been a central part now and the data that's being collected is really starting to show the results that we're looking for and the student
growth. um measures are really what's making us all excited because it's student growth for all students. >> Yeah. >> Right. Which is at the heart of that study. So I can see that you were you know locked into that training when you
had it. >> Great. So for this piece we can just end on that quote by D Peterson. An individual an indiv individual can make a difference but a team can make a miracle. Uh, I like that in the context of board members because you're all individuals, but you have like
superpowers when you can unite as as a full board to make the important decisions that you have to make, including supporting the superintendent and all the work that uh he and his uh staff do as well. Okay. All right. So, great. Now, a little bit more um
administrative, I suppose, but we'll try to, you know, keep this a little bit light as well. Um, so I believe it's been a practice yours for some time to do the board's self-evaluation. Um, I like to try to treat it as if you probably have a sense of it, but I'm not
going to take anything for granted because um, like I said, it comes back around and you're like, "Wait, what do I do again? Where is that link? When are they going to send that?" So, >> this will be Lena's first time doing it. So, >> okay. Well, the most important thing for you to know is call me if you run into
tr or anybody of course. Um, but some of this what typically happens is I hop on the phone, someone says a thing, and I go just do this. See that? And it's, oh, and I go, I know it's it's not intuitive sometimes this whole process. Um, it's pretty straightforward, but it's not
always that intuitive. So, I added a few slides to our regular presentation just to sort of highlight um like where where to make sure you're starting off the right way because sometimes it's a little overwhelming. Like these slides are going to seem very busy at times. Um, but it when you get really right
back to it, you just go one step at a time and you'll be okay. So, let's jump right into it. The Board of Ed self-evaluation, also known as the BSE. I I always say the BSE, and I got to make sure people realize what I'm talking about. So, it's your annual board uh self-evaluation. So, what does it do? It provides um self-reflection of
the board as a whole and individual board members. So, as we break this down through this short presentation, you'll you'll see what I mean by that. Standards are self assessed. You assess based on six standards. board standards and then there are the goals that are entered into there to to review. So it
can be completed by all board members. Uh no statutory deadline. It's not required but it is a best practice and it's a do practice. So that's great too. Um and yeah I I I really it's a chunk of time. It's not you know but it's very worthwhile because what
are we going to be doing in a few weeks? we're going to get together and that information is going to fuel um the conversation about next year's goals. And what's great about where you're at right now is you did do a really great job of setting your goals last year. They're board goals. They're clearly
board goals, which is great. Sometimes there's like a gray area between well, is that a district goal or is that a board goal? Um and and these were really well done. I I'll show you your own goals in a minute, but we won't get into those as much, you know, we'll get further into those in a couple weeks.
Um, I think giving you a couple weeks to do this process is the best. If you had six weeks, you would take six weeks. So, just set aside I don't know. I I've actually not done it myself because I I have I'm not I've never been a board member. Um, but how long does it Well, it takes the board president more
because he's got to enter a lot on the front end. >> Usually, you know, oh, well, once I have to do it, it's usually a couple hours >> at least. >> Okay. So, >> but I I know I' done it many times, so maybe a little it might take longer.
>> So, it's a great opportunity to get the conversation among you all started. So, it's what you'll see is uh so the comments are anonymous so you could be honest. Um I'll talk to you a little bit about what I do with all that on your behalf. We compile them and and I I pull
out some common themes so that you know it is great if you ultimately can read what everyone wrote. Um but at least if we can get everybody's thoughts on the paper, then we're going to know what um directions you you're going to want to move in. So um
improves governance and management results used to develop future board. Okay, I said all that. Okay. How board completes it annually? Um it could include the superintendent. I think it's split right down the middle. Some do. We do. >> That's great. >> Yeah. Um determines priorities in six
areas. So you got the board uh standards governance. Uh I am the FSR. I compile the results. I deliver the summary and review findings with the board. So on I actually I don't know why I I enjoy this process because I I like compiling. I
introduce a little bit of um you know uh AI to to compile it and then I read it through and make sure that it sort of matches up and it almost always does for those who are thinking. So it it does work out well. But it it really helps me shape here are your common themes here here are what you're saying is strengths
and here here are some areas that you all agree you can grow and of course you have the quantitative data as well so you'll see that screen in a minute um yeah so what I was so if it takes you know hour and a half two hours set that side you know set aside some time you
you can always come back to it you don't have to do all in one sitting but just you know uh sort of give yourself a little bit of space to be able to do that over one or two or three sittings. I normally it just jumps right into this whole thing. I've added this slide even
though we have like a template for doing this presentation. This is the most important thing in the whole world because when I'll send the presentation to you and when you look at it as a in presentation mode that that's what you need. If you do that, it really comes down to Scott. Scott's I'm going to show
you what Scott has to do in a second. Once he's done his work on the front end as the board president, once you click on that, it takes you right there and step by step. It really is easy once that's been done. So, you just have to realize that that's where you need to go. What that does is it takes you to
this page and where do you have to click? Um, CSA evaluation, no board self-ealuation up top there. So, board self-evaluation resources begin now. >> I just take the link and put it in an email so they don't even have to page.
>> Good. Okay. Excellent. Um, forget what I said, but you'll still have it. Uh, and this is a good page if you ever wanted to do a little bit more work on uh, you know, find out a little bit more about the process and and the kinds of frequently asked questions there are and all of that, but you're in
good hands with Scott. So, I I guess this is you'll see a screen that'll pop up um, and you'll pick your school or you'll see your name. I shouldn't be saying that with a question mark at the end, but I can't see what you see. So this just pops up and they'll know what
to do. >> Yeah. >> The rest I can see. This is uh like this is what I meant. It looks like a big busy >> page that could Oh my god, I can't read all that. That's going to take me the two hours. But ultimately um it gives you a sense of what this is all about.
And uh it's sort of an overview, but again um what you see here is kind of what we're talking about tonight, but you can review it again if you want. And the bold is what's important. Yeah, meaningful evaluate. Yeah, read
the bold when you get to it because what we want is we want really productive, honest comments and considerations and sharings. Um, which we get 90% of the time. The other 10% is interesting. People will battle through this thing.
Uh, sometimes they're even trying to, you know, run the district through this thing. It's not what it's really there for. There's a comment or two I'll make after that. But so you'll see this and then you'll proceed to the evaluation. Um new ratings it's actually I think the second year but those words are the same
that's the same language used for the superintendent. So exemplary proficient area for growth unsatisfactory not observed. So this is when the system will just start walking you through. I can get rid of this slide for you because I already know that your BA has the board president and all set up and ready to
go. Um, this is what the board president sees. And this is just to point out that if you had no goals, there's a button you can click that says, "But you do, so don't worry about that." And this is what happens. The board president will enter the goals here. The system numbers
them. And um, the board president can enter a hyperlink or any kind of evidence. So if if the board were going like, I'll give an example. So I think you wanted to have a certain level of training for each board member this
year. That was one of the goals uh on in governance. So if you had like a spreadsheet that's that showed that um there you go. You put that in there and then everybody knows oh so we all did achieve that or you know every we achieved 90% of it and and then you would rate it accordingly and you could put your comments. So the comment then
goes uh on underneath there. Uh well no it comes on the next page. So yeah then you'll have a chance for comments. Okay, these are your goals. So, the reason I wanted to show those is because advance student achievement through datadriven decision- making. One, strengthen board
governance through training. That's number two. Number three is enhance community engagement and communication. And number four was ensure accountability on progress toward goals. So, that's what Scott will be entering here. And then when you get to uh this, pretend that those are your goals
because these are this is just a standard screenshot. So, let's say that's your first goal. you'll either say it was achieved that you made progress, satisfactory progress, or little or no progress was made. And on occasion, um I've seen boards agree, yeah, you know what, we have to do that again. We didn't get it done. And that's
not the end of the world, especially, you know, if you had three or four goals and the rest were achieved. But so you're honest here as well. And that's um see how there's like a link there for this hypothetical one. So that's what you would see as the board member. You would see these buttons. you click them
and you could click on evidence if there is any shared. Um and this is where we'll this will be our launchpad in a sense for when we have our retreat on goal setting.
These are the six standards uh that you will then so you do the goals part and then the next section is on the board standards. There are six of them. So then this is where you're going to do those uh comments. So members will evaluate the board's overall performance in six standards. Uh member self-
assessment is a separate section and is no longer part of each standard. Yeah, that was a great correction. So why don't we just say you're going to see uh six standards come up one after the other. I'll show you on the next slide what it looks like, but I'll only show you the first one. So you have vision,
mission and goals, capacity building, board compliance and operations, student achievement, resource management and compliance, stakeholder relationships and engagement. So example, standard one, vision, mission, goals. You'll see this page six
times. There's six standards, right? And each time you'll you there are like subindicators. What do they call them officially? Um there are indicators of those that standard. What does it look like? So what does the standard look like? Uh and then you will say we are um
achieving that standard in that indicator at exemplary level etc all the way down to non-observed. This is where you get to write a um some kind of greatest strength in this area. So you might say this year I feel you
know our vision mission and goals was at the highest it's been because we really focused on measuring them or we really focused last year on setting goals that we would then etc. And then if there was a challenge associated with it that can be shared as well, right? It's great to
learn from our challenges. It doesn't have to be failure, right? Challenge or an opportunity to do more. Uh and then so after you do that, so you're going to do that standard one, standard two. It's the same slide except you change the standard. Then it gets to a point where you can do your individual
uh contribution to the board team. So now you go from thinking about in terms of yourself your your collective board we as a board standard one achieve at this level and here's my comments about why um when you get to this one it's about you as an individual and so
reflect on that and what we get from that is a sense of um where you might want to grow. So if we know what everybody's individual thoughts are and then we colle look at them collectively there's maybe opportunities for professional develop you know training and all that kind of stuff there as well. And there are 11 indicators. Um
can clearly articulate the vision, mission and goals of the district. Value learning and um I value learning and enhance my effectiveness through study, training and reflection etc. So it's like a personal reflection. Okay. And then after that there's just
opportunity. So um what do you consider to grow? Same theme. What are our strengths? What are our areas for growth? It is so like this is what I was saying. It's a simple process. It's just uh well the the the tool itself the work you're doing is kind of simple. It's just
getting through it. Sometimes it might be clunky. So here you'll just do an overall reflection as to board's greatest strengths that we can build from and then uh what areas do we need to focus on for the future. Um oh okay and then there's like reports.
So um this is where I come in and when we get started on our goal setting I will have um two documents. Uh one will be the full compilation and it's not a bad idea if you can even read the
whole it's usually 18 to 25 pages depending how verbose that particular board was or how many board members there were. Um so that's a big one but that's because there's all the comments in there. It's great if you can skim through those and get a sense of it. Um but what also comes is a quantifiable a quantitative report and that's where
again if we go back to the standard for vision mission and goals when you add up all the board uh members responses whether it was exemplary proficient etc you're going to get a number so the numbers go from uh one to four
meaning everyone said exemplary for that one and then anywhere in between. So I'll tell you in advance um if there that's something we want to take a look at in any area. So in this in this hypothetical
um this is often the case too uses relevant data to engage in continuous district improvement and that board gave a 2.75 because that's a challenge for everybody and it comes up often um as an area to work on. So that might be something that when I presented I'd say
all right let's let's talk about that. we talk about that. Um, areas that are 3.5 and above, we you're doing well. We we don't really have to even have a conversation about that. What I do like to do, and it's tricky with very high achieving boards sometimes, is the n the
ratings might be very high across the board, and that's not uncommon, and I I expect it might be the same for you all as well. Um, so what we'll do is we'll look at the absolute highest if there's uh and and say, great, that's a strength. If there's something that's
below 3.5, maybe we'll touch on it. But it's still you're still it's like talking about somebody having B+es and A's. Remember, you know, school, you had that there's those students that said, "Oh, I failed." And that meant they got a B+. So, um, but we'll have that conversation at the time. So, this is
what it'll wind up looking at. So, the compilation report is the big one. I I do that for you and then I share it in advance. Uh, tracking report um is available along the way. So, um, Scott and I can see from a click who's getting the job done and, uh,
we'll send gentle reminders and then, uh, the individual board member evaluation report so board members can see your own report, um, just yours. And, uh, then I bring, so there's another report that's not on the slide, and then I bring what I called um, sort
of like an exa, a summary consult report, which includes even a narrative summary. Um, but I I kind of approach that a little bit like the way your auditors do every year. they come in and they say, "I've audited all your books and and here's, you know, the profile of you." I sort of do something similar and it's just really summarizing what you've
reported out. So, it's not what I found. Although, I guess if if it was an auditor, it's what they found. Um, but yeah, so I'll report that out. Um, couple just a couple more thing. Oh, also comes with this chart. Uh, two charts. This is the first one and that's
just uh one of those uh bar graphs that is able to show you uh you know in one bar exemplary proficient area for growth etc. And then there's this one year to year. So that should pop up for you. Um this is just a reminder where it all
starts but it actually starts with a link from Scott. This one I do I I've glossed over this and I'm paying the price. Um, and it probably won't be an issue here, but so let me just start. I'll read it. Remember, you are evaluating only the board, your team's
performance and efficacy, not the district and not the staff. And I'm going to take that a step further. Um, so what that means is it's a self-evaluation of the board. So even if you start saying we have the greatest superintendent, he's always doing the best stuff, that's technically
evaluative. And I'm sorry, it shouldn't be in there, [laughter] but even the positive things and oftentimes uh it's just wonderful things say that in the CSA evaluation like when you're sitting with your superintendent or um you know in whatever way other
staff because sometimes the BA is mentioned in there and other people and I think that's great but what happens there is then I do go through a process where I read through it all and I make recommended redactions and sometimes we share that with a board attorney. those are steps that are better if we don't
have to take them. Um, so try to just evaluate yourselves. So that's number one. That's not normally that big a deal. The thing that I've never anticipated and actually I've done a lot of these in the short time that I've been with school boards, but there was one where um, you know, the the
struggles among board members who weren't on the same page were being fought out in this document. So I had to talk I spent it was a few hours had to talk to the at what do we do? They're saying this district must have this program. It is un, you know, unacceptable that the district isn't
doing this and that. It wasn't even technically a criticism of the the administration. It was a conversation about I don't like how the board president is doing X or Y. And so they're they're fighting through this document. All that means is I have to go through all it's not about me, but it's
wasted energy on the part of anybody who's done it. So now what I have is I have suggested redactions that say this is administrative. this is, you know, trying to run the district. These that's not helpful. The conversation is going to be where are we at and how can we do our best and continue to do well and all
that, but imagine if you had to actually sort through all the things where someone's saying, you know, um well, the examples I gave you, you know, imagine if you if I sat with people at a retreat and then we had to start saying, well, what about this comment where, you know, and you could it's clearly a, you know,
faction. It's it's a a fractured board that's fighting itself through the evaluation. So, I strongly encourage you not to do that to me or Scott or any of you. Um, and I I don't anticipate that, but it it's something that's new and I'd never seen it before. So, normally it's
just the evaluative stuff. So, that's my my soap box for that. Um, yeah. So, I we did pretty well on time. Um, any questions about anything from tonight and and on this? And again, just pick up the phone. It sounds like Scott has a lot of
resources already ready for you like the link and all that, but um you could always just reach out to me. You can find me there. Um I don't have my cards. Oh. Oh, no. I I do. I'll leave some cards over on the side. So, in this process especially, if you need to reach out, you can just give
me a call. >> Okay. Really appreciate it. Thank you very much. >> We'll be talking. All right. >> And I'll see you I'll see you all in a few weeks. Thank you. [laughter] >> Thanks. What does it say?
For those who wish to provide public comment remotely, a Google form was posted on the district website at 6:30 p.m. Those remote comments will be addressed in the second public comment section. This meeting, which is hereby called to order at 7 p.m., is in compliance with the notice requirements
of the law. Public notice was posted in the office of the board of education and communicated to the municipal clerk and the daily record on January 15, 2025. Can you please stand for the flag salute? I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all >> could you read our mission statement >> together
and provide opportunity [snorts] for our students and their environment creative resilient. >> Thank you very much. Roll call. >> Mr. >> President, >> Mr. Mor >> present. >> Miss Phillips
>> here. >> Miss Kates >> here. >> Dr. S >> present. >> Miss Shower >> here. >> Misses here. >> Mr. Miller >> here. >> Okay. At this time, we're going to welcome Lyn Lori and Jonathan Lazo.
Um, and so I wanted to, um, I'm going to go in alphabetical order, so I had to really look at it. Lau comes first before Laz. So, Miss Lori, if you would like to address the board. Um, did you have a microphone?
And I I want to start out by thanking you both for applying uh to fill this uh term to December 31st. So, thank you for your interest. [snorts] >> Okay. Good evening everyone. My name is
Lynn Lorie. I have been in living in do for 44 45 years. Love this school district. I had two children who went through the school district. I began coming to board of
education meetings 35 years ago because my son started kindergarten and I have been involved in one way or another ever since then. I was on PTAs.
I was on um finally finally I ended up on the board of educ board of education in a roundabout way [laughter] because by the time you're volunteering, you know, you it sort of goes one to the
next. And I enjoyed my time on the board of education. I was there for 15 years. Um I was on many different committees and with the main goal of the students come first. They are the most important
people that the board of education works for and we have their families, their the teachers. It's an entire community and um I don't know do you want do you have questions for me? >> Does anybody have any questions? [laughter]
No, that's great. Thank you very much. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And then Mr. Llo. >> Um, good afternoon ladies and gentlemen of the board of education. Um, my name is Jonathan Lazo. Um, I'm the voter outreach um voter outreach coordinator
for the Democratic Committee of Dober. And I'm sorry for my nervousness a little early. Um, a little bit about me. I graduated Dover in 2024. I was fortunate enough to go through the Dober program K through 12. I was raised in Dover, too. Um, a little bit about me.
Um, I'm sorry. Um, my time in Dover um I'm sorry, my time my time in Dover was um had a lot of hardships like multiple other students. things like COVID, adjusting to online virtual school, um
then coming back to um inerson school, adjusting to that not only academically but socially um not not only that but um crowded classrooms one teacher for 25 30 students for reference basketball team is 15 to 20 players. So um 25 to 30
students for one teacher is hard with limited time. Um going around go experiencing that um not having the sufficient time for teachers to to to educate students because it was only one one teacher for for for multiple
students. And it it was just a lot of hardships that not only me but my peers um other other students went through throughout the time throughout the time. And the reason why I kind of wanted to um to to to run to fill the vacancy was
to was was to I'm sorry what was so was to kind of change the things that were going on in the school kind of make things better for fortunately I hope no other student has to go through the things that we went through with COVID and coming back and stuff like that
missing out on multiple years of school. Um, I think that if um the I'm sorry. I think as a as a person as a as a member of the as a future member as a potential member of the board of education, I
think my experience throughout those hardships, not only COVID with those with the with the crowded classrooms and also going to going to the trailers, that was another thing, too. So, that was I was one of the first CLA classes and um that started going to the trailer going to the trailers, I'm sorry. and um
just a lot of those hardships and um going through a lot of that I think helps me helps me become a valuable member if if chosen to be a board of education member kind of give my input as a former student and also going through those hardships and um with that
I I conclude. >> All right. Well, thank you very much. >> Okay. At this point, uh, are there any questions from any board members on any of the presentations? All right. At this point, I entertain entertain a motion. >> I'll make that motion, Mr. Miller,
>> of >> for appointment of >> you have to. Okay. >> I'm sorry. It's a nomination. >> Nomination. Yeah. >> I make a motion to nominate Lin Lori to fill the position. >> Okay. Do we have a second? >> I second.
>> Okay. Um, I think We can do it one of two ways to policy. You can ask if there are any other way. >> All right. >> Are there any other nominations at this time? >> Okay. So, the first uh vote is for Lin.
So the way the policy works the candidates were the first candidate to get a majority so everyone first whoever gets first [snorts]
will there be no discussion? >> Uh I did ask if there was any questions before we >> question. >> Well I mean if is there any discussion? Yes. Okay. Sure. Sorry. >> Expiring are noting.
So there are asyber owes over the opportunity. This is a kind of a unique opportunity to allow the res of performance.
>> Um, I I applaud Mr. Lazo and Miss Lori for coming out this evening. This is A lot of community members don't realize it's such an important thing until you're here and until you're on the board. Um, and I agree that we do uh it
is our responsibility to make sure that the community that we encourage and engage the community into wanting to run for the board of education so that the board of education continues its life that they are the lifeblood. But as I
school board, our job and our responsibility this evening is to fulfill the empty seat with the best person to complete the job for the remainder of the term for the responsibility and the service to the
board of education and to our students. not community not to the adult members but to the students and to fulfill the requirements of us as a board member to the students. Thank you.
>> Go ahead. >> Um first I want to echo the thanks to both Mr. and Lori for putting their names forward. As has been said serving on the board of education is one of the most important forms of public
amount of time a genuine commitment to our students, our staff, and our taxpayers. And anyone who is willing to step forward to do that deserves our appreciation. Um, I want to specifically recognize Miss Lori. She, as she stated, has devoted
many years to this board, including serving as vice president, and her contributions to this district have been significant. Nothing I say should be interpreted as diminishing that service. As stated, we're supposed to decide in
the best interest of the district for the remainder of this year and beyond. Um, you know, experience matters. Uh, in fact, it's one of the greatest strengths of this board. Collectively, the eight people sitting here bring
nearly 60 years of board experience to the table. We have members who understand our policies, our budget, our long-term goals, and the history behind many of the decisions we've made. that depth of experience is not going anywhere. It will continue to guide this
forward over the next coming months. But what we have tonight uh as Dr. Dr. Singer pointed out is a unique opportunity. Mr. Lazo has already demonstrated his commitment to this district by filing to run for one of the
three seats uh that are up this year. As only three candidates have filed uh and while the election process proceed. It is reasonable to recognize that he is expected to be serving alongside us in just a few short months. Because of
that, I think we have to ask ourselves a very simple question. Who will benefit the most from serving these remaining months? If he is appointed tonight, Mr. Lazos won't simply occupy a seat until December 31st. He will have the opportunity to learn his
responsibilities. He'll become familiar with our policies, our governance procedures, our commit committee structure, the many issues that face our district. He'll participate in discussions, observe how experienced members approach difficult decisions, and begin building the
knowledge that is impossible to gain from reading the policy manual or simply attending a meeting. By the time January arrives, he won't be starting from scratch like many of us have to and did. He'll already understand how this board
functions. He'll already know the issues and he'll be better prepared to contribute from the very first meeting of his elected term. I don't see that as benefiting just him. I see that as benefiting the board, the administration, and ultimately students
and the taxpayers that we represent. To me, this appointment is not about choosing between experience and new perspectives. We already have a tremendous amount of experience around this table. It is it is about combining that experience with the opportunity to prepare the next generation of board
leadership. Um I also think there's value in continuity. As board members, we often talk about thoughtful planning, succession, and making decisions with the long term in mind. This is one of those opportunities. Rather than viewing
this simply as filling a vacancy for a few months, we can view it as strengthening the board for years to come. Again, I want to emphasize that this is not a reflection on Miss Lori. Her service to do speaks for itself, and I thank her sincerely for everything she
has done for the district. If the circumstances before us were different, perhaps my conclusion would be different. Given where we are today and given who is expected to be serving on this board beginning in January, I believe that the prudent decision is to provide that individual the opportunity
to learn, to grow, and to become an even more effective board member before assuming a full elected term. It is for those reasons that I nominated Mr. Lazo. It's for those reasons I will be voting for him and I respectfully ask my colleagues to consider not only what is
best for the next five months, but what is best for this board and the district for the next three years. >> Well, I appreciate everything everyone has said and we've been through this many times and two people here know
exactly my position. They have always sided with the experience of a person coming in that can contribute and can bring other thoughts to this board just the same as anybody else that would come onto the
board. And we do know and I'm really happy that MOO applied because we we don't want vacancies and we know all three of those individuals will uh get on the board. But it's also not fair to a community member who also wants to
serve that can contribute now that could bring a different perspective hasn't been on the board for a while that could contribute in a positive way. So you can you can say that with either person because they have different perspectives, but um I'm going to vote
with experience as I did the other times. I'm going to be consistent that way and that and that I'm explaining it because I don't want Mr. Lazo to think that I don't think that he can't serve because I'm looking forward to serving with him because soon as he gets elected, we'll be sitting down and and
going through board orientation. So, there'll be plenty of time to learn, but at the same time, there's a lot of experience that Miss Lori brings that could benefit this board because most of you have not worked with Miss Lori. So, I'm going to be voting for Miss Lori
based on that. Does anyone else have any other comments? >> I I I'll add to what I said earlier, Mr. Miller, and um and also that I agree with Mr. from court that if we have the
time um and the capability to teach someone as we are doing things now but we all know on this board things move very fast we have a lot of obligation and a lot of commitment that individually we all have to do so the learning component for
ourselves when we started out I was an appointment when I first came on the board in 2002 um I finished out what was left of a three-year term I finished with two years So, I had a little bit more time on the board and then I ran after that. So, being appointed is a
great opportunity if you are going to continue on and run for the board. But in this situation, it's a very short amount of time. And in that short amount of time, we can also suggest to the candidate that they attend board
meetings. This is his first board meeting ever attending, I believe, coming out of high school. And I believe that it's important. It's not the whole learning experience, but it is important to come to meetings to see how long we're here. We've been sitting here now since 5:30 and we're not quite even
halfway through the meeting yet. Um, the amount of time put in for committee meetings, the amount of time put in for trainings. Miss Lori has the experience of 15 years of all of the training that we have all taken individually each year. She's done it 15 times. That's a
lot of commitment and we can't disregard that. And she can come to our meeting this evening and hit the ground running knowing exactly what we have to do. None of us have to teach her anything. There's some nuances that have changed since her time off the board, but that's
easily um technology can actually help her with that. That's not something board members need to teach her. So, as much as I admire and I appreciate Mr. Lazo coming here this evening. I appreciate him filing his petition. I have I have stated several times that I
need the young people of our community to get involved and to be the lifeblood of this board moving forward. So I'm I'm very pleased to see that he has done that along with the two other people who have filed. So I encourage him to come to meetings, go to the new candidate member training. Um school boards has
everything online. you can you can read through at your own leisure and in your own spare time um what it is to become a board member and what's required of all of us with the time that we've put in. Um but I believe the person no differently than a teacher who leaves a
classroom midy year. We're going to want that replacement for that teacher to be someone who can hit the ground running, not someone who has to be taught how to handle a classroom. So my candidate will be uh Miss Lin Lori. I support her. I
always have. And I believe she can hit the ground running this evening and keep going till December 31st. Thank you. >> Any other discussion? >> Okay. Roll call on Miss Lori. >> I'm sorry. Can Mr. Croo repeat repeat
the instructions again? I I'm just not sure. >> Okay. The way the policy reads, >> okay, >> is that the roll call vote will be conducted in the order that the candidates were nominated. >> Okay. >> And the first candidate to receive a
majority vote of the remaining members of the board. >> Okay. >> Uh will will be elected. >> Thank you. >> Point of order, Mr. applicant receives a majority >> then the policy says you try to do it
again >> do it again at this meeting or reopen applications >> that's correct you have 65 days from the date of the vacancy >> so you could I would suggest you could try to do it again September
>> yeah so there's 65 days from the date the vacancy occurred um the policy doesn't go into too much detail other and there's not somebody doesn't get a majority try again. So yes, it could be try again tonight could be tried again and ultimately if
the board is unable to decide that the county superintendent would select >> and Mr. Croo the county superintendent after is it three different tries? >> I don't think there's a specific number. >> Okay. So the county >> I think that if sometimes it's just like a jury situation if there's a deadlock
and you can't decide um the board could just keep waiting. You've got 65 days to try again perhaps at the next meeting or um take some other course of action. Uh otherwise, it could perhaps be turned over to the county superintendent >> and then the county superintendent makes
their decision based on the resumes and experience of the candidates. >> Yeah, I've had that happen a couple of times in my in my career and it's it's basic honestly it's basically up to the county superintendent to decide how he or she wants to do it. Uh yeah, but typically they would, you know, look at
the resumes and >> Thank you. >> Roll call for Miss Lori. Miss Eve, >> yes. >> Mr. Mor, >> no. >> Miss Phillips, >> no. >> Miss Kates. >> Dr. Ser, >> no.
>> Miss Shower, >> yes. >> Miss Sness, >> yes. Mr. Miller. >> Yes. >> So you got four out of seven. So we have to do the second one. >> Right. So now you go to the second case. >> Uh Mr. Leo. Uh Mr.
>> No. >> Mr. Mr. Mar. >> Yes. >> Miss Phillips. >> Yes. >> Miss Kates. >> Yes. >> Dr. Center. >> Yes. >> Miss Shower. >> No. >> Miss Son, >> no. >> Mr. Miller, >> no.
>> One, two, three, four. Four and four. Yeah. So now we are in that exact situation. So uh so that with the pol let me read the I'm going to read the exact language of the pol policy. In the event no candidate receives a majority of the vote of the remaining board members, another election process shall
be conducted. So that could be interpreted as meaning you try again tonight or election process could be interpreted meaning you know you reopen it and do it in another meeting. uh or if the board can't even agree on that um
you know typically when this happens at organization meetings electing board president for instance typically we tell the keep trying keep trying hope maybe something will change so you could try again um you could have further discussions you could put it you could reopen [clears throat] the process completely it's it's really at this
point it's really up to the board to decide what to do u and as Mr. court pointed out u there's 65 days from the date of the vacancy to uh to reach a decision. >> Any suggestions?
Hold another vote the next meeting. >> Can we wait that long? >> Yes. Legally, we can, but >> I'd like to move that we reopen applications um for the position um with the intent to appoint at the August meeting.
>> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay, >> we can have discussion about that. >> What What How do people feel about that? That means we're going to ask for additional resumes. >> I don't see the need for that. We have resumes and we have
>> we voted down both of them. So perhaps uh that means we need to go in a different direction. Um that would give the way I understand it, the way I read the policy is this election process has
concluded and that um and that we need to reopen it again. And if Miss Lori and Mr. Lizo want to apply again, they can. If anyone else wants to apply, they can. Um I think to simply
continue voting um at nauseium for two people who I don't ever want to speak for other board members. It seems um that we will likely continue to deadlock
that we need to give the community time to decide whether anyone else wants to put their name forward and possibly members of the board decide whether they want to change their way of thinking. >> Mr. Crew, is that a true like the way
he's interpreting the is that >> Oh, no. I think I said before I think certainly the board can decide what it wants to do. I think if the board thought it would be helpful to have vote tonight. I think you could,
but what it said as I read it was if you can't pick a candidate, another election process shall be conducted. So, that can certainly be interpreted as redoing the process. So, you know, I think the board can
decide either way. Of course, if that vote is dead, >> well, I think that we should just go forward and ask for applications again for the uh August meeting and have people apply again. We'll put it out
there on the website um and give people three weeks because we have time to put in their resumes and we'll go through the process again and hopefully both of you will apply again along with anybody else and we will vote again >> and and and that is the I think is
exactly the motion that's that's pending if you want to go through and have a vote on that. >> So we had a motion uh f a motion and a second. So why don't we have a roll call? Well, could I could I add something else, Mr. Miller? Um I don't know if anyone else on the board has
received any input out of the community. I did um someone reached out to me this afternoon with a concern and I'll bring the concern here and um it's not something that I enjoy mentioning, but it is something that the community is
aware of and asking the questions about and it is uh Mr. Lazo stood up this evening and he actually opened the door for this conversation that he as he introduced himself he said that he is the voter outreach for the do Democratic
committee and with the addition of the two other candidates who have filed their petitions to run. They are also on the new Dover Democratic Committee. There is a candidate at the table here. There is the chairman of that committee
and then there's another member here. So with that grand total excluding um Dr. Ser who won't be here that's five members are going to be on the same political committee. Now there is nothing ethically that has been in the books yet but I know
>> point of order. >> Oh hold on >> I'm allowed to make a point of order. It is an interruptor motion. Um with all due respect in the shower I do not understand the relevance to the motion. >> Well I haven't gotten there yet. >> I haven't gotten there yet. Um my point
is and maybe Mr. recruit can clarify. Um, Miss Asavdo and I attended training at the convention last year and it was brought up by New Jersey school boards by several attorneys that the county is starting to look unfavorably at
committee members, county committee members being board of ed members and has voted um on ethics complaints because of the political actions of county political committees on board of education And again, I'll state that
there have been no rulings yet, but I know we have talked about this before, Mr. Croo, about committee members. Um, and >> I'm not aware of anything that would >> right. There's nothing in the books yet, but there is a concern that >> the motion that's currently pending
before the board is just to decide yes or no. I mean, what you're saying >> I'm bringing up a concern. It's >> vote, but Right now the motion pending is whether to conduct another election process for
>> correct so that >> and and in the decision making for that vote this is part of a concern that the community has in the vote. So I'm just bringing that to light as part of the vote part of the concern from the committee the community is that um the
politics seeping into the board of education by and and Mr. Mr. Lazo did identify himself that way this evening. So that's my concern. >> Okay. Roll call. >> Can you repeat the motion again?
>> The motion is that um the board will conduct another u request uh for folks to uh apply for the vacancy. We will have a three-week period. Um and then
the uh August vote we will the August meeting we will then have candidates come forward again and then we will do another vote to try to fill the position. >> Do we have enough time between now and the next board meeting? >> Yes. It's the end of October. I mean
August. >> August. Sorry. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Okay. >> Very good. >> Roll call. >> Mr. Seo. >> Yes. Mr. Mccor, >> yes. >> Miss Phillips, >> yes. >> Miss Gates, >> yes. >> Dr. Ser,
>> yes. >> Miss Shower, >> no. Unnecessary. >> Mes, >> yes. >> Mr. Miller, >> yes. >> Thank you both. Sorry that we got caught in this uh loop
and I hope to see you next month. Okay. All right. So now we are going to move to our first public comments section of the agenda. The board recognizes the value of public comment on educational issues and the
importance of allowing members of the public to express themselves on school matters. To ensure fair and orderly expression of such comment, each statement shall be held to a time period of three minutes. Public comment to items on this agenda shall be entertained for approximately 30 minutes
upon the discretion of the presiding officer. Please understand the public comment portions of our agenda are not are not structured as question and answer sessions but rather they are offered as opportunity to share your thoughts with the board. The board may or may not
respond to public comments. However, all comments are considered and will be investigated and addressed as appropriate. Please be courteous and mindful to the rights of others when providing comments. Comments may not be abusive, obscene, threatening, or irrelevant. Please understand that students and employees have specific
legal and privacy protections. The board is not permitted to respond in public to comments about students or employees. Please be advised that you are commenting at your own risk. Any public comments that are directed at a particular individual or individuals could subject you to legal liability for
defamation. With that, is is there anyone from the public that wishes to address the board >> on agenda items only? Sorry. Where do you want me here? [cough and clears throat]
Danielle Mendes, 16 over, New Jersey. I'm speaking on the agenda item related to the appointment. Um, I echo the thanks to Miss Lori and Mr. Lazo for um putting themselves out there to serve our community. It is not an easy thing
to do. It is not an easy thing to do to come stand before you all um asking for support to serve on this board. I remember four years ago at this point where I stood in front of many of the same members on this board and was told, "No,
you don't have the experience." And I and Mr. Lazo, I ran a campaign, I won. And um a year later, those same folks elected me president. So maybe we're looking at our future president of the board of education. Um secondly, uh some of the comments made here tonight by
board members I believe are disingenuous um related to the Dover Democratic Committee of the Dover Democratic Committee. um given the fact that just last year half of this board served on that committee as well as the chair um Miss Selenus um who also engaged in
political warfare against current board members and former board members such as myself um I'm at a loss for words by some of the discussion tonight but I understand it is necessary and I respect and appreciate the process. I respect and
appreciate each of you. Um, I know these decisions are not easy. Um, and with that, I conclude my comments. Thank you. Is there anyone else from the public that wishes to speak? Miss Lori, >> thank you so much to everybody for
letting us speak and um I appreciate everybody's comments. Now, I'm going to give a little history lesson of what I believe. I welcome I welcome Mr. llo. I
welcome all the young people from this town who want to participate because I see many new faces here on this board and we know what a very important job
this is. We know the commitment that this takes and like I said to Mr. Llo, I welcome him. I welcome everybody to take this commitment on and I know
like you went on to other things. All right. But you need that history to stay here. We had Bill Scheler. He was on this board for 52
years. That is our history. that is we had Bril. He was on for well over 20 years. They were all effective. They cared about this community. They cared
about the children in this community. That was number one. It doesn't I understand the Democratic Party, but that does not ever take priority over
the children. And it's fine to me fine everybody do what you want to do politically but when you are coming here it is those children it is those children it is their education it is the
families it is providing the support to those families for the education and now if Mr. llo like I know you're going to be on the board coming in September.
This is serious. It is a serious serious job. That means you need to come to every meeting. You must go to every training. You must participate on committees. It is critical to to
make make our school system here in Dover the best it can be. make give the opportunities to to the children and the families. Thank you. I'm probably over time. Am I over time?
>> All right. Thank you very much. >> Is there anyone else from the public that wishes to speak? Um, so forgive me earlier for my uh earlier wreck, but I wanted to address the concerns the board had about my political affiliation. Um, to be um exactly direct, I'm the voter outreach
coordinator. All I do is um get basically coordinate people to go out and vote, young people like myself and older people that might not be registered. So um I will not if if elected to the board of education to fill the a vacancy I will not let my political ail affiliation affect the
choices that I make for the students and the residents of of Dober. And um when it comes to the experience um um I I don't really have anything to say when it comes to the experience. The only thing I the only experience I do have is in the classroom with the with the clouded classrooms and the the lack
of time in the for the students and specific um teaching teaching teaching time. I'm sorry. But um that's the experience that I do bring to the board. Actually being there. I graduated in 2024. So it's not too long ago that I was in the classroom experiencing things that the students that are currently in
the in the high school, not only in the high school, but in the middle school and elementary school are experiencing. And um um with that, I can I conclude. >> Anyone else in the public that wishes to address the board? Okay. Okay, with that, I'm going to
close the public portion um and entertain a motion for the approval of the um June 24th minutes, uh executive session and regular session.
>> Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Any comments or questions on the minutes? Okay. Can we please have a roll call? >> Mr. SO. >> Yes. >> Mr. Makor. >> Yes. >> Miss Phillips. >> Yes. >> Miss Kates, >> yes.
>> Dr. Ser, >> yes. >> Miss Shower, >> yes. >> Miss Son, >> yes. >> Mr. Miller, >> yes. >> I do not believe we've had whole board communications this month. >> Oh, this envelope.
Let's see. No. Oh, this was old, >> so we're not going to go over that. It's like months and months. >> Communications [snorts] from >> It was a nice letter from Mr. Franks when he retired, just so you know. Okay. Oh, board president's report. So,
good evening again, everyone. Uh, while July is traditionally a quieter month for the board, it is anything but quiet throughout our district. Although committee meetings pause for a short time, our administration is fully engaged in preparing for another
successful school year. Behind the scenes, plans are taking shape. New goals and initiatives are being re refined. Interviews continue to bring outstanding teachers and staff to Dover and construction progresses on our district's first new school in 26 years.
The work being done today will ensure that when our students walk through our doors on August 31st, everything will start to the new school year. August also be an important month for the board of education. As part of our commitment
to continuous improvement, we will complete our annual board self-evaluation to reflect on our effectiveness as effectiveness as a governing body and identify opportunities to strengthen our leadership. Shortly afterwards, during
our August 19th board retreat, we will establish our goals for the coming year. These goals are not created in isolation. They are designed to align with and support the administration's vision while ensuring we continue to provide the best possible education
opportunities for every student. The months of July and August may seem quiet from the outside, but they are amongst the most important months of the year. The planning, preparation, and collaboration taking place now lay the foundation for a successful school year.
And I want to thank our administration, faculty, staff, and fellow board members for their dedication. They can they continue to demonstrate on behalf of our students and community. Okay.
Superintendent report. [clears throat] Good evening everyone. Woes. Uh so a few items for for this evening. Uh just to reiterate what Mr. Mai mentioned. Uh yes months. Uh sometimes people assume that it's uh things slow down to a degree, but actually is an uptake as we are
getting ready for the fall and the school district, but we're also still working with the community and we just recently had our clothing drive and I want to thank our community leaison for their outstanding work with our families during this time of need. Uh through their work and dedication,
countless hours, they organized hundreds of clothing items. Uh they had it downstairs in the community room and it was from preschool sizes uh I'm sorry newborn sizes to adult sizes and the efforts again uh inviting our families in to have access to the clothing uh between Thursday and Saturday was an
amazing Saturday was a huge event. I honestly didn't think all that clothes was going to go. That's how much there was down there. And it was a great success that our families came and and appreciated some of the clothing uh that we donated. I myself donated some for my children because uh they keep growing and growing and therefore I got to do
something with that and and again to be able to continue to give to our community is fantastic. Um I have an update on the DBA building as mentioned in this first building we haven't do in many many many years and right now uh myself and Attilla and the some of the
uh the architects and the project managers we did a site vision had a meeting in the building and again it's it's so impressive to see the size of the classrooms and the size of the gymnasium. I mean to see it on paper is one thing, but to be there in person, it's amazing. And I know that, you know,
due to the storms, there has been some delays, but we did have the electricity uh being connected. They're working on the poles, uh sewer, and water being connected as well. Uh, so this is very exciting and you know, we're gearing up and getting ready for our grand opening on August 8th from 10 to 100 p.m. So I
would ask everyone to join us as we're going to have food and vendors and and nonprofit organizations and giving tours to our students and families of the new building so they really can see it firsthand before the the opening in September. So again, I invite everyone to come out on August 8th is going to be
a great time to really share and and be together and and spend some time. um our parent academy August 3rd which is uh the upcoming Monday I am hosting a parent academy which I invited some of our PTA parents also former PTA um as well as former booster parents to assist
and support you know one of the missions that we're on this year is to continue for that parent involvement and we want to support our teacher our parents uh um in that transition right because a lot of our parents coming into schools uh especially the kindergarten first grade
don't realize the importance of being part of the PTA to continue bringing new ideas, being part of that community, the community within our schools and as of as well for our booster clubs, for our sports and and things of that nature at the uh and cheerleading as well and and
band at the high school level, which is a very huge part of of our work with our parents, right? We again have always since I've come to do in 2020, I've always uh reiterated to everyone that we are not a separate entity of the committee community. We are part of the community. Therefore, we want our
families to come and join us and be part of our events, chap support our dances, support our programs. It is very important that we hear from our parents so we also know where we can continue to improve and continue to move forward as as a district. Uh so again, I look forward to hosting that on August 3rd.
It's going to be at the Dover Library and I invite everyone to come out, especially our kindergarten and first grade parents as well as any parents who have athletics or or uh in the arts uh to join us because again it's really to have a conversation. And this is going to be the first step in two other
meetings that we'll have throughout the year to continue to support our families and the importance of the PTA, PTO, and our boosters within the district. Again, we just want to pull our parents in. We don't want to let you go. We want you to be part of our uh of our schools. Um it's that time of year also where we are
preparing for convocation. So, I know that's put put some people in a bummer because it means summer's almost over and uh we're getting ready to gear up in the fall. But, I'm excited. Uh we are already planning our convocation. We have our PDS ready and set to go for the following year. A lot of the PDS were based on what teachers requested,
surveys, datas that we data points that we collected as well as their new mission, what we're working on, which I'll speak about that a little bit. And yes, I am working on a new video for convocation as well. We started some recordings already and some new features that are going to be in the videos. And for those of you who who don't know, uh
you know, when I first became [clears throat] superintendent, we started with a video where I was running across the district. uh it has now escalated to a complete production of of videos uh which is done in house. You know we we actually do it all together and work together and I have to thank uh Diego and uh and and Nisha Valdez, my my
administrative assistant who really support me through these videos and uh and help out. But we're excited because it's really has become a tradition where we really kick off in a positive way our year and we try to be purposeful and the videos are really connected to our mission. So hopefully this year it hits the mark again and for for our teachers
to really kick off a great and positive year this upcoming year. What is the date? >> It is August 26. >> All right. Um and as I had mentioned with convocation uh some of the PD work that we've been doing. So throughout the summer we uh have planned our work
around MTSS. Uh over the course of the last year we uh last year with the new initiatives that we put in we really look to strengthen our systems and procedures and protocols in house really to make an effort to make sure that we as a team are looking at the data and using those data points in order to
really uh impact our teaching, impact our leadership, impact the way we work as a team. uh this past summer. Um we wanted to continue that work of continue to build that frame work that we're doing. You know, when you think of building a home, you put that foundation, but then you start putting
in the frame. And with our MTSS, which is multi-tier student systems, we're looking to reinforce those frames that we have, right? Working with making sure that districtwide INRS is uh procedures are followed uh to the tea. You know, they're followed and they're no matter
which building you're at, they're still being done. uh but providing also tools for our our our staff to be able to look at uh a playby-play of how the interventions can work, how long it should work, right? It INRS shouldn't be a life sentence for a student, but it should have a progression in and a way
to us to look at how our students are progressing and growing. Uh we want to look at our attendance. We're working right now with attendance as well to add it to our MTSS to really work on our attendance and put together action plan and really focus our energy in our top two, top three, uh, tier two, tier three students who really need that support
and that um, assistance. Um, we're looking at the way we're also going to be addressing social and emotional uh, with our students. We know that at very young age or middle or middle schoolers or even high schoolers. Uh there are certain things that happen in life and have an impact them whether it's here in town or even going on in the world. And
we want to make sure that we prepare ourselves to really support our kids with our therapeutic social workers, our school counselors and again just creating a system that everyone knows and understands is our best for our kids, right? We want to put our kids first. So the work really started during the our admin week which we scheduled this year in the end of June which
allowed us to really step that foundation and springboard into the summer. And we are meeting every Wednesday for a half a day or a full day and really developing a full handbook which is all hands- on deck. And our objective is to have a MTSS handbook ready to go for September that once
again will provide everyone a clear vision of the way we're going to be moving in uh with MTSS. And one of my goals is the next board meeting in August is to really present to everyone um the work that we're doing with MTSS and what our strategic plan is going to look like for the next three years. And
we're also going to then post that strategic plan on our website because I want all our community to see where we're going to be in the next three years and how we're going to get there. U so we're really excited about that. Um [clears throat] our uh there's also ED construction just started. I just started at two classrooms. We're
creating bathrooms for two of our ABA classes over at East Elementary and that started. I walked by there. Um they're they're in there and they're working. Uh and we're excited because it's going to get ready and we're going to be ready to go for fall. But it's exciting because we're going to be able to again provide that area, that environment for our
students, which is very much needed. Um, our tech nights, we started our tech nights two years ago. Our tech nights is a one-stop shop allowing our community to come out, collect their electronics, also be able to fill out any paperwork they need to do, especially for lunches. Uh, we're going to do that again this year. We're going to be hosting it. Um,
it's going to be only for uh two evenings, not mistaken, or two evenings. >> Three, >> three, sorry, three evenings. uh and it'll be for uh two evenings for the high school and one evening for the middle school. And but that'll also allow some of our elementary students to pick up any items that they need uh
regarding paperwork or lunch applications, things of that nature. So just look out for that as we're going to be sending out information on when those dates are going to be solidified. Um for all of our families, online registration is active and we have online registration online and they can go on and and do all the paperwork and needed
uh for registration. Um, I want to reiterate to all of our families in Dover community. Uh, again, it's at your convenience. You know, if you are, you know, struggling to get out of work or come here to fill out the paperwork, you can do it online and call and get assistance over the phone. Uh, also want to reiterate to all of our families,
please, it's very important that vaccinations are done. Make sure that you are making your appointments and getting everything ready prior to coming into the school year as there is uh requirements that our families must must do. Um [clears throat] and the electronic policy I know we've had
several discussions or our policy committee meetings. Uh we are going to be meeting very soon with all the principles to have further discussion as there is a policy being uh sent in from Charles Esme. Again, our objective is to continue what we've been doing in in district really is we already had been doing a lot of these restrictions with
our cell phone policy and we just want to make sure we have that conversation from elementary, middle school, and high school, but we also want to make sure that the communication goes out to our community before school starts as well. So, I want to make sure that everyone is aware of that. That's going to be coming out. And today, I had the privilege of
going to the aspiring educators at William Patterson. We had several of our students in the program over the summer. Um, I have to say that I was, it was almost came full circle for me as I was there and seeing our kids teaching and
two of my students and I I I I think right off the bat uh it was uh Rosa and Valentina, two very quiet, very shy students in the middle school. to see them teaching the students and managing the classroom. I mean, of course, there was an adult in there as well just blew
my mind because again, these are two of my students that struggled uh just to get themselves out there, come out of their shell and they were there. They were there in front of the students uh teaching and working on mathematics. One student was working on mathematics, the other student was working on language arts. Uh one of the kids would say something funny and they kind of just
jumped in and building that report with the students. So again, it's it's to see that and I wish all of us can be able to see that because this is a product of ours is what we've built and to see our students kind of come full circle and be able to do that and I and I can assure you a lot of their teaching techniques that they're learning and they're doing is because they've learned to hear from
us. So they're replicating a lot what they've seen from us within the classroom. >> Uh and it was exciting to really see them go out there. So again, thank you. Uh I want to thank Dr. Feifer, Mr. Chewy, Mr. uh Mr. Carl uh for being there with me today. We were there for approximately 3 hours and saw the
presentation, saw the students really share their experiences, but then saw them in action with with younger students. So that was again very inspiring and it was fantastic to enjoy. So that is all I have for this evening. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any questions for Mr. Haimey? So you're going to have to really work
out. So you're ready for your video? >> Yes, that's already happened. I've been working out for those video. [laughter] >> Okay. Business Administrator's report. Mr. Sabahulu. >> Good evening everyone. I'll be talking about finance and facilities uh items. Item one and two, the bills list and per
register are presented this evening for the board's review and approval. Item three, we have received our IDA grant allocation for 202627 school year which is approximately $29,000 less than uh last year. We are uh in the process to
complete the application which is due on Friday. Items four and six, additional out of district contracts for the 202627 school year are up for approval this evening. Several contracts were approved at the last board meeting. Items five, five and seven, these grants have been
approved and are on the agenda for formal acceptance. Item 10, following the resignation of treasur, we are appointing a new treasur to oversee school funds. Item 15, an addendum to del 2, which is door early learning learning center uh building agreement
providing a two-year extension option is up for approval tonight. Uh I also have like two additional uh information. The first one is uh do high school auditorium ceiling and lighting up upgrades project has been rescheduled to the summer of 2027. The environmental
component of the project requires additional time and full project couldn't be completed before the start of the school year. That's why it's uh moved to the next summer. Uh board which is the platform we're using right now for our board agendas was acquired by diligent and we will need to migrate to
the new version within uh the next three four months. Uh we already have a plan in place. Uh there's no other option because they're not going to support the old version and it keeps crashing. Obviously we don't want to have that. Uh the new platform is much more reliable and has far fewer issues issues. It also
works significantly better uh better on mobile devices which is another problem with the bordax. Uh this concludes my report. >> Are we sure it's going to be better? >> Uh actually we saw that. >> I've heard that before. Yeah. Yeah. But well we don't have another option. >> I know. I know. Okay. Any questions for
Mr. Sabahulu? >> Okay. Uh we're going to move on to the um board reports. Uh there was no Mars County Educational Services Commission meeting in July. So that's my easiest report to give. Um legislative report,
Miss Gates, >> in the final voting session before the legisvers for legisl June potential midyear increase in active enroll
spring break recommendations will require the commissioner of education to annually recommend but not require the dates on school district school for spring break. New Jersey kids code would require covered online services providers to
implement certain measures to protect minor online privacy. Voting instruction would require the state board of education to adopt New Jersey student learning standards and social studies pertaining to voting and ensure that instruction on voting is
incorporated in an appropriate place in the curriculum for students in grade 12. Safe transportation for students with disabil would require school bus drivers and aids to call 911 in potential life-threatening emergencies and would
require school buses transporting students with disabilities with specialized transportation requirements to be equipped with certain safety features. Revised Foster Graduation would make permanent the requirement that students
complete a financial aid application as a prerequisite for receiving a high school diploma unless a waiver is subitted. That concludes my report for this month. >> Thank you very much. Uh Mars County School Boards, Mr. McCory,
>> there is no summer meetings school boards association. Um the executive committee did meet to begin planning the meeting schedule and the meeting topics for uh the next
year. Um the uh the dates have all been scheduled. I will I will share those with you all um shortly. Um I'm sure um it'll be September 23rd, December 3rd, February 4th, March 3rd, and May 5th.
The last two meetings are are the the normal um on some heroes awards and the spring celebration where we'll try to get >> No, we're not doing that again. >> We're trying to get somebody from do the
Irene Award um um the uh so the first so the first meeting of the year as I said will be Wednesday September 23rd. It will be at Mville Township High School. Uh and the topic will be start to finish on advocacy from resolution to legislation. I imagine the shower and
the legislative committee will probably have a lot of involvement in that. I know Mico is is is working alongside another member to come up with topics and
speakers as part of that. So, >> well actually I had forwarded to Mr. Miller and copied um Mr. Haime, Mr. Sabagulu and Miss Phillips a email from Jessica with an attachment a large attachment to it and it was supposed to
go out to all the board members but you may not have been able to open it for security reasons. I'm not sure. I did not hear back from you. >> I didn't I didn't see it. >> Yeah, it was last week I sent it to you. She's she's compiled a whole synopsis of the work of the legislative committee. So, uh yes, she she has done that. Yeah.
So, we're we're we're looking for input from the board and from uh superintendent and BA on how do you feel about these topics and what we've compiled and the work we've done. >> So, other topics will be released obviously as we get closer to those
meetings. Um our >> thank you very much. Okay. Now, we have uh let's see items one through two for administrative
approval. Do we have a motion? >> So moved. >> We have a second. Any discussions on those two items, Mr. McCart? >> Um I double check tonight to make sure that I didn't miss anything, but
I hope I don't think I did, but um it doesn't appear that these cases summaries was included in our agenda. >> I think he's correct. I I didn't see it. >> Yeah, I didn't see them either, but I went back to look because a lot of them are this the
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I don't know >> if there was any new ones, >> right? Um and so for that reason, I I think it may be >> Do you know if there was any >> There was no new ones. No, there no there. So, they're the same that
>> these are all >> that that we had from the previous time. That was my assumption because school is out. >> Correct. >> Yeah. >> So there were cases from the last meeting. >> I think it was just your close out. >> Yeah. >> So do we have to vote on like again? Do
we have to vote on that? >> No, it was the ones that that they finished reporting on last after last month. So then we had to we had to vote on them this month. >> But there was no >> but there was no attachments though. We don't know.
>> Might have been because the I mean I'm I'm assuming with the transition from one position to the next the person coming in I'll just follow up with them make sure that it's the attachment was there. >> Okay. Yeah. >> We had received item B but not A and C. >> Not A and C.
>> Right. >> I just assumed there was nothing new. That's what I assumed and honestly I didn't I didn't um uh I didn't actually look closely into the hip case was part of the agenda. the other day, >> right?
>> And then I noticed a list and I don't know how the rest of the board feels, but I I would like to see that report before we vote on this. >> I I think we can wait until next month, right? It's not a big deal. Yeah. So, we'll >> So, that was just um
>> item one. >> Mr. Miller, I just would like clarifi clarification. I agree with everyone. I don't want to vote on anything that I haven't read. Um but just clarification from Mr. Crude. I know HIB follows a timeline and that we would not be in violation of that timeline if we did not approve these tonight. >> They're typically are supposed to go on
to approval at the next board meeting. Um but it is summer and school's not in session. Um so you know under the circumstances it would be difficult for the board to vote if they don't have information. I mean the only
>> Yeah. because I went back and looked at the previous one and I I didn't look through the whole list, but I could see the pattern that they were all there. >> So, did had had we voted already at the last meeting on these items? >> Well, as I understood it, Mr. Hime said that this was a summary at the year end.
It was a summary. So, >> correct. It wasn't We don't have anything new. >> So, there's nothing new since the last meeting. >> No. >> Okay. >> But, but wait, wait, wait. I'm looking at the July 15th meeting and there were four items, four HIV items in table A which should have transferred to, am I
correct? And transferred to be this month. Yes, >> there's far more than four. >> July 15. >> Oh, you're right. I apologize. I was looking at July. I don't I'm a teacher in the summer. I apologize. I don't know what day it is. Um I apologize. I was at
the wrong time. >> All right. Well, we we can we can >> Yeah, it might have been it might have been a mistake with the transition of, you know, from Mr. Pandolf to Mr. Chewy. I'll follow up and I'll have that ready to go for the next one. >> So, it's all right if we just vote on two.
>> Yeah, it sounds like >> Yeah, let's just do it the right way just to be 100%. >> Everyone's in agreement. If everyone's in agreement that those two items, >> you know, if anyone says, "Oh, no. I think we've got a vote on then you should do a formal motion." >> But if everyone agrees that you can do
all agree to carry A and C, >> we can do the second one. >> No, we can do the second one. >> Keep A and C. >> Yeah, >> Mr. Miller, I am looking at the correct document now. And the list from table A from the
>> June >> June meeting >> June meeting is exactly the same as the table that we see >> um tonight. So we did see them as part of the materials that came with the June. >> That's what I thought
>> because HIVs are voted on. We're presented with a month with them in a month and then we vote to accept them the following. >> So we should be good there. I I take issue with we should be good. I I did I did not think I needed to go back and look at last month's agenda.
Admittedly, I I think this might have been an instance where all of us maybe thought that somebody else would bring it up. None of us did. And so, um, yeah, I I would still prefer, um,
the opportunity to review them sufficiently even though we got them. I I have not I have forgotten what was on that list. I think most of us have >> Okay. It doesn't make any difference. So,
>> well, I mean, >> I mean, I knew it was the same. Now this seems like a totally different situation. Is this what typically happens every time that it all the standard that would be the standard procedure for for voting? >> Yeah.
>> Having said all that, you know, the members aren't comfortable that they're familiar enough with the issue to vote >> because we have the discussion in close session the previous month >> and then >> we didn't have a discussion because there were no questions on the reports. But to your point, yes, they were
>> they were given to us >> and they were discussed last month. >> Yeah, >> they were discussed in executive session in June. I don't remember any conversations about in June. >> Yeah. >> I don't remember any questions from members.
>> Well, they may not have had any questions, but they saw them. >> Yes, they saw them, but >> but that was the opportunity to have the questions and then the next month you approved. But that's okay. >> We can we can do it again and then hopefully next year we'll remember when we get to this point again
>> because it probably will be the same thing, >> right? Because it sounds like that's the process >> going for. So I think it's fine. I think it's fine to put it off this time if that's you know what everyone would like to do. >> I think the gater point is that it wasn't on the agenda and whether we got it last month or not it should have been
on the agenda. It wasn't on the agenda and therefore we have an incomplete agenda. We're not supposed to I I don't think that's the way it works. >> Doing a lecture on HIV tomorrow. So >> So after you do it the first time and it's
presented to the to the board and everyone gets the reports and it's and it's reported whether there's discussion whether anyone had any questions but it's report the first time typically then when the next time when you vote is it t that they're presented again or is it
just typically that you've already presented them at the last time? I'm just trying to understand it. >> I mean, you wouldn't have it on the agenda if we didn't agree with it at that time. So, you wouldn't be putting it on the agenda for the ones you're just reviewing in executive session. It has to be
>> curious how that's going to work, but just for going forward purposes. >> So, what we're going to do next time, >> let's put it off to the next time and we're going to do a full investigation >> to figure out make sure it works. how our process is going to be going forward.
>> So, can we have a roll call on number two? >> Number two. Okay. >> Mr. Esto, >> yes. >> Mr. Mako, >> yes. >> Miss Phillips, >> yes. >> Miss Skates, >> yes. Please. >> Dr. Ser, >> yes. >> Miss Shower, >> yes. >> Miss Son,
>> yes. >> Mr. Miller, >> yes. >> Okay. >> All right. Personnel. Miss Selenus. I would like to make a motion to personal items through 14.
>> Second. >> Sorry. >> Thank you. Any discussion? >> Okay. Roll call, please. >> Mr. Aso? >> Yes. >> Mr. Mako? >> Yes. >> Miss Phillips? >> Yes. >> Miss Skates? >> Yes. >> Dr. Center? >> Yes. >> Miss Shower? >> Yes. >> Miss Son?
>> Yes. >> Mr. Miller? >> Yes. negotiations. >> There's no report this morning. >> Uh, that's what I figured. Okay. Miss Asa, >> the governance, good evening. The governance committee has not met since
our last meeting. However, I would like to make a motion to approve the second reading of policy number P uh P0142.1 on nepotism as it appears on our bylaw section. Do we have a second?
>> Second. >> Any discussion? Dr. Sain, >> I just had a request. Um, Miss Asavdo, at our last meeting, you reported on the progress on our goals as is one of the um objectives of the governance
committee. I would respectfully ask that when you do that again, I believe in December, if we could be shown a visual aid. Um, very clearly we had made progress on all of our goals. Miss Asabedo um reported on them. Personally, I would find it easier to digest
visually as opposed to hearing it. And so I I think that document actually already exists if it could just be projected for the rest of the >> and and I think that's a great idea and we're going to make sure that we have it for our board retreat because we'll need to see it. >> Who's doing it?
>> I'm going to work with you. We're going to do it together. >> Just kidding. [laughter] >> Thank you. Okay. Any other discussion? Roll call. >> Mrs. >> Yes. >> Mr. Mor? >> Yes. >> Miss Phillips? >> Yes.
>> Miss Kates? >> Yes. >> Dr. Ser? >> Yes. >> Miss Shower? >> Yes. >> Mes? Yes. >> Mr. Mayor? >> Yes. >> Okay. Student achievement and curriculum. Dr. Ser. >> Our committee also has not met since um June. Um with that, I would like to move
items one and two. >> Um Three. >> I'm sorry. One through three. I apologize. >> And is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you. Any discussions? >> Okay. Roll call, please. >> Mr. Suedo? >> Yes.
>> Mr. Mor? >> Yes. >> Miss Phillips? >> Yes. >> Miss Gates? >> Yes. >> Dr. S? >> Yes. >> Miss Shower? >> Yes. >> Mes? Yes. >> Mr. Miller? >> Yes. >> Uh, community relations. Miss Gates. >> We have not met either, but we are meeting next month and Mr. Hime has
foolishly asked me to particip his parent academy. So I will be able to report on that next month. That concludes my report. >> Thank you so much for that report. >> Thank you. [laughter] >> Okay. Policy committee, Miss Shower. >> Yes. Thank you, Mr. Miller. And again,
the policy committee has not met since our last meeting, but we do have this evening the second reading for policy and regulation P and or R7510, which is our use of facilities revised. and it has been updated with all of the
uh the new fees and the change and the updates that we did in the wording. Um and I present it for approval this evening. >> I'll make that motion. >> Thank you. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? Okay. Roll call, please.
>> Mr. Aso, >> yes. >> Mr. Mccor, >> yes. >> Miss Phillips, >> yes. >> Miss Kates, >> yes. >> Dr. Ser, >> yes. >> Miss Shower, >> yes. >> Mes, yes. >> Mr. Miller, >> yes. finance and facil facilities. Mr. McCort, >> guess what? We didn't meet either. Um
and uh and I can announce that to my committee members, there will not be a meeting on August 4th. Mr. and I have had that discussion. Sidebar and uh and a meeting in August is not necessary. So, our next meeting will be on September the 1st. Uh and with that, I
will move approval of financing facilities items 1 through 16. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> Roll call. Mr. Espo? >> Yes. >> Mr. Mor? >> Yes. >> Miss Phillips.
>> Abstain to uh payments 1950. >> Yes. To the rest. >> Miss Kates. >> Yes. >> Dr. Center. >> Yes. >> Miss Shower. >> Yes. >> Miss Son. >> Yes. >> Mr. Miller. >> Yes. >> Okay. Um upcoming board meetings. Uh we
do have our board retreat on August 19th >> and our board meeting is uh August 25th. We have a September 15th meeting and October 13th meeting. Miss Phillips will be chairing the meeting because I'll be
in Scotland. So So buckle up. All right. And facilities requests, we had two. One was the spark group. Guess it's a drum core. Um,
and I believe that's a do core group Saturday with my husband and saw them perform. They were awesome. Um, we have a a teacher who is at the lead of it. We have several alumni and we also to my
surprise I had no idea our validictorian is also a member of the course. So he made time in his busy summer preparations to leave for college to come and perform and they were really great. >> Well, thank you. And then the county college of Mars is going to be using the
Do High School Media Center for the Dover College Promise program. Do we have any old business? Do we have any new business? I don't think so. Okay. So, now we're coming up to our second public comment
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Um, I will entertain a motion to adjurnn. Do we have a second? >> All those in favor? I. Have a good night, everybody.