WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=LPIWKvCiWOs Part: 1 1 00:05:21.553 --> 00:05:37.069 >> MAYOR FREANEY: JULY7th, 2026, CITY COMMISSION WORK SHOP. ALSO, THE BIRTHDAY OF THE VICE MAYOR OF THE GREAT CITY OF DUNEDIN, ROB WALKER. SHALL WE JUST -- ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ♪ 2 00:05:37.069 --> 00:05:53.786 ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ♪ ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR ROB ♪ ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ♪ ♪ ♪ [APPLAUSE] ALL RIGHT! >> RESOUNDINGLY BEAUTIFUL. >> FOR FURTHER EMBARRASSMENT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 3 00:05:53.786 --> 00:06:07.600 >> HAPPY BIRTHDAY. WE ARE GLAD YOU'RE HERE ON YOUR BIRTHDAY. OKAY, I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND FIRST WE WILL GO TO NOAH WHO WILL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOR US. 4 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:31.624 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] OKAY, WE HAVE JUST ONE PRESENTATION TODAY. BUT IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ONE. DESIGNATION OF JULY AS PARKS AND 5 00:06:31.624 --> 00:06:47.340 RECREATION MONTH, AND I'M GOING TO TURN TO COMMISSIONER TOM DUGARD TO REID AND PRESENT THE -- READ AND PRESENT THE PROCLAMATION. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK WE HAVE A VERY LARGE NUMBER OF PARKS AND REC PEOPLE HERE. I'M FEARFUL THAT IF YOU ALL COME 6 00:06:47.340 --> 00:07:03.456 FORWARD THERE ARE GOING TO BE NOTHING BUT EMPTY SEATS OUT THERE, SO I'M GOING TO ALLOW WHOEVER YOU'RE SELECTED, DO YOU ALL WANT TO COME FORWARD? IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD, COME ON DOWN. >> MAYOR FREANEY: SURE, WHY NOT? >> NO? OKAY, SHY. 7 00:07:03.456 --> 00:07:19.839 [LAUGHTER] I'LL DO THE PROCLAMATION AND PRESENT IT AND THEN ALLOW FOR COMMENTS. IS THAT ALL RIGHT? OKAY. WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY INCLUDING THE CITY OF DUNEDIN, AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATIONS PROMOTE HEALTH, 8 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:34.587 WELLNESS, IMPROVING THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEAR PARKS, AND WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION PROMOTES TIME SPENT IN NATURE, WHICH POSITIVELY IMPACTS MENTAL HEALTH BY INCREASING COGNITIVE PERFORMANCE AND WELL-BEING, AND 9 00:07:34.587 --> 00:07:49.902 ALLEVIATING ILLNESS SUCH AS DEPRESSION, ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDERS, AND ALZHEIMER'S. AND WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION ENCOURAGES PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES BY PROVIDING SPACE FOR POPULAR SPORTS, HIKING TRAILS, SWIMMIG POOLS, AND MANY OTHER ACTIVITIES DESIGNED TO 10 00:07:49.902 --> 00:08:06.118 PROMOTE ACTIVITY -- ACTIVE LIFESTYLES. AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION IS A LEADING PROVIDER OF HEALTHY MEALS, NUTRITION SERVICES, AND EDUCATION. AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMMING AND EDUCATION ACTIVITIES SUCH AS OUT OF SCHOOL 11 00:08:06.118 --> 00:08:22.501 TIME PROGRAM, YOUTH SPORTS, AND ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION ARE CRITICAL AND CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT. AND WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION INCREAES A COMMUNITY'S ECONOMIC PROSPERITY VALUES, EXPANSION OF LOCAL TAX BASE, INCREASED TOURISM, THE 12 00:08:22.501 --> 00:08:37.416 ATTRACTION AND RETENTION OF BUSINESSES, AND CRIME REDUCTION. AND WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION IS FUNDAMENTAL TO THE ENVIRONMENT WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION IS ESSENTIAL AND ADAPTABLE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT 13 00:08:37.416 --> 00:08:53.399 MAKES OUR COMMUNITIES RESILIENT IN THE FACE OF NATURAL DISASTERS AND CLIMATE CHANGE. AND WHEREAS AND PARKS AND NATURAL RECREATION AREAS ENSURE THE ECOLOGICAL BEAUTY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE A PLACE FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS TO 14 00:08:53.399 --> 00:09:09.715 CONNECT WITH NATURE AND RECREATE OUTDOORS. WHEREAS, THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES HAS DESIGNATED JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH. AND WHEREAS DUNEDIN RECOGNIZES THE BENEFITS DERIVED FROM PARKS AND RECREATION RESOURCES. 15 00:09:09.715 --> 00:09:26.265 NOW, THEREFORE, I TOM DUGARD, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME FROM THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DUNEDIN, FLORIDA, AND ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CITY COMMISSION DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JULY 2026 AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH IN DUNEDIN. 16 00:09:26.265 --> 00:09:42.915 AND ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO CELEBRATE THE THE TRANSFORMATIE POWER OF PARKS AND RECREATION. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE 17 00:09:42.915 --> 00:09:59.098 MAYOR, COMMISSION, AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND OUR VALUED PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM BEHIND ME. JULY IS NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH, AND ITS INITIATIVE FACILITATED BY THE NATIONAL PARK AND RECREATION ASSOCIATION AND IT'S DONE SO SINCE 1985. 18 00:09:59.098 --> 00:10:15.848 THIS YEAR'S THEME IS THE POWER OF, AND IT'S RECOGNIZING AND CELEBRATING THE POWER OF PARKS AND RECREATION, AND THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE IT ALL POSSIBLE. THE POWER OF CONNECTING AND COMMUNITY, THE PARKS, THE MARINA, THE GOLF COURSE, AND ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS AND EVENTS ARE 19 00:10:15.848 --> 00:10:33.098 WHERE DUNEDIN RESIDENTS GATHER, CELEBRATE, AND BUILD RELATIONSHIPS ACROSS GENERATIONS. THE POWER OF PLAY FROM YOUTH SPORTS AND CAMPS, TO ACTIVITIES FOR SENIORS OR FAMILIES TO ENJOY THEIR FREE TIME. PLAY FUELS CREATIVITY, FUELS HEALTH, AND LIFE LONG LEARNING 20 00:10:33.098 --> 00:10:48.814 FOR RESIDENTS OF ALL AGES. THE POWER OF NATURE, OUR WATERFRONT, OUR TRAILS, AND CONSERVATION SPACES INCLUDING THE HAMMOCK AND GLADYS DOUGLAS PRESERVE, AND THE VARIETY OF PARK SPACES GIVE EVERY RESIDENT ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITY TO 21 00:10:48.814 --> 00:11:06.598 RESTORATIVE BENEFITS OF THE OUTDOORS. AND OUR TEAM. NONE OF THIS IS POSSIBLE WITHOUT A PROFESSIONAL, WELL TRAINED QUALIFIED PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM. AND BEHIND EVERY CLEAN, SAFE, WELCOMING PARK OR SUCCESSFUL 22 00:11:06.598 --> 00:11:23.382 PROGRAM, AND EVENT, IS THE PARKS AND RECREATION PROFESSIONALS, MANY OF WHICH ARE BEHIND US. MANY OF OUR RECREATION STAFF COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY DUE TO SUMMER CAMPS THAT ARE FULL, FULL ON RIGHT NOW, SO DO DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THOSE THAT AREN'T HERE WITH US. BUT OUR RECREATION, PARKS, GOLF 23 00:11:23.382 --> 00:11:40.666 AND MARINA TEAMS DELIVER ALL OF THE EXPERIENCES THAT I MENTIONED EVERY DAY. FRIDAY, JULY 17th IS PARKS AND RECREATION PROFESSIONALS DAY. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE FULL-TIME, PART-TIME, AND SEASONAL STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS THAT KEEP THIS SYSTEM RUNNING. 24 00:11:40.666 --> 00:11:56.215 I INVITE RESIDENTS TO CELEBRATE PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH, ALL OF JULY, AND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, BY GETTING OUT, USING YOUR PARKS, SIGNING UP FOR A PROGRAM, GOING TO AN EVENT, AND SPEND TIME OUTDOORS ON THE WATERFRONT. I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSION 25 00:11:56.215 --> 00:12:11.230 FOR RECOGNIZING PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH. I WANT TO THANK OUR STAFF AGAIN, WHICH OUT HERE AND WHO COULDN'T BE HERE WITH US AND APPRECIATE THE TIME TO BE RECOGNIZED. 26 00:12:11.230 --> 00:12:21.406 [APPLAUSE] >> MAYOR FREANEY: GET A PICTURE. 27 00:12:21.406 --> 00:13:29.408 COME ON UP, GUYS. 28 00:13:29.408 --> 00:13:46.258 [APPLAUSE] >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY, HAVE A SEAT FOR A MINUTE, EVERYBODY, AND I'M GOING TO GIVE THE COMMISSION A CHANCE TO COMMENT ON OUR AMAZING PARKS AND RECREATION GROUP. I'M GOING TO START WITH THE VICE MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU KNOW, TONY HAD SAID THAT, 29 00:13:46.258 --> 00:14:03.208 YOU KNOW, THIS MAY BE PARKS AND REC MONTH, BUT THIS IS -- PARKS AND REC SHOULD BE CELEBRATED 365 DAYS A YEAR. BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU GUYS DO. YOU ARE THE HEART AND SOUL OF 30 00:14:03.208 --> 00:14:15.420 THIS COMMUNITY, AND WITHOUT YOU AND WITHOUT WHAT YOU DO, I DON'T THINK -- IT WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD ENJOY THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE DO HERE NOW. SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO THANK 31 00:14:15.420 --> 00:14:34.973 YOU TO THE ENTIRE PARKS AND REC TEAM AND. >> MAYOR FREANEY: COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN. >> THIS IS PROBABLY THE EASIEST SPEECH TO GIVE, BUT 500-PLUS 32 00:14:34.973 --> 00:14:55.593 ACRES OF PARKS, 500 ACRES OF GREENSPACE, I KNOW I'M CLOSE ON SOME OF THAT, BUT YOU KNOW I KNOW MOST OF YOU. I SEE YOU DOWNTOWN. I KNOW THE EVENTS YOU TAKE CARE OF. THE BALL FIELDS. 33 00:14:55.593 --> 00:15:14.446 I SEE MY FRIEND DOWN THERE BOBBY GALLAGHER, I WAS ABSENT THIS MORNING. I WANT TO SAY THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO, AND I THINK SOMEONE WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED SAID NEVER FORGET IT STARTS WITH PARKS, AND I THINK THAT PERSON WAS RIGHT SO THANK YOU TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. 34 00:15:14.446 --> 00:15:29.495 >> COMMISSIONER GOW. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT PARKS AND REC HOLDS A PERSONAL AND SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART BUT JUST, JUST REAL QUICKLY, JUST IN GENERAL, TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT DUNEDIN WOULD BE WITHOUT OUR 35 00:15:29.495 --> 00:15:45.944 PARKS, OUR GREENSPACE, OUR STAFF, OUR DEPARTMENTS, IT CERTAINLY WOULD NOT BE THE SAME. AND WE GAIN SO MUCH THROUGH OUR GREENSPACE AND OUR PARKS. SO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO EVERY DAY. 36 00:15:45.944 --> 00:16:03.962 THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> MAYOR FREANEY: COMMISSIONER DUGARD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WILL MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE PERSONAL. I SELECTED MY HOME BASED ON LOCATION TO PARKS. WHEN I WAS BUYING A PLACE HERE 37 00:16:03.962 --> 00:16:20.545 IN DUNEDIN. I WAS VERY PROUD OF THE FACT THAT I WAS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO HAMMOCK PARK, THE TRAIL, THE WATER, AND ALL OF THAT. AND THEN A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE AT THE ROTARY CLUB SAID YOU REALLY CAN'T GET ANYWHERE IN DUNEDIN WITHOUT BEING NEXT TO A PARK ALMOST. WE HAVE THE HIGHEST DENSITY OF 38 00:16:20.545 --> 00:16:38.163 PARKS FOR ANY CITY IN THE COUNTY. I MEAN, WE JUST HAVE GREAT PARKS. AND OUR CITIZENS EVERY DAY TELL US HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO THEM. ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS THREATEN A PARK AND YOU'LL HAVE 500 PEOPLE ON YOUR DOORSTEP. JUST IN MINUTES. YOU GUYS DO GREAT WORK. 39 00:16:38.163 --> 00:16:54.145 YOU KEEP THIS A HEALTHY SYSTEM. AND YOU KEEP OUR CITIZENS HEALTHY AS WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] >> MAYOR FREANEY: BEFORE I GO, I THINK THE CITY MANAGER WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. >> I'D LOVE TO. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT IT TO BE 40 00:16:54.145 --> 00:17:09.862 NOTED I WAS AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER THIS MORNING. [LAUGHTER] HE WAS THERE YESTERDAY, I WASN'T. BUT ANYWAY. AND JUST TO, YOU KNOW, AS COMMISSIONER DUGARD SAID, ACTUALLY PARKS AND REC RATION IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DRIVER. 41 00:17:09.862 --> 00:17:25.644 THE OPEN SPACE AND THE FACILITIES ATTRACT RESIDENTS TO OUR CITY AND BUSINESS OWNERS TO OUR CITY, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTED ME TO THE CITY WHEN I FIRST CAME TO, TO HAVE A LOOK ABOUT IN YOU KNOW REGARDS TO THE CITY MANAGER POSITION. 42 00:17:25.644 --> 00:17:42.694 WENT BY THE HALE CENTER, WENT BY THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THE DFAC WHICH IS OWNED BY THE CITY AND MAINTAINED BY THE CITY. AND SOME OF THE OPEN SPACES ARE JUST PRISTINE, AND I REMEMBER DURING JUNETEENTH WHEN WE -- INAUGURAL YEAR JUNETEENTH WHEN WE DID OUR COMMUNITY INSERVE DAY 43 00:17:42.694 --> 00:17:59.545 I CHOSE PICKING UP GARBAGE AT LIELANDER PARK AND I COULDN'T -- HIGHLANDER PARK AND I COULDN'T FIND ANY BECAUSE IT WAS SO WELL MAINTAINED. I HAD TO LOOK AND LOOK AND LOOK FOR WHATEVER GARBAGE I COULD FIND SO I TOO AM GRATEFUL FROM THE ADMINISTRATION'S PERSPECTIVE FOR ALL THE HARD WORK, RECREATION AS WELL. I KNOW THAT THEY CAN'T BE HERE. 44 00:17:59.545 --> 00:18:16.728 THEY'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW. BUT PARKS MAINTENANCE AND PARK ADMINISTRATION, IT TRULY IS A GEM IN THE CITY. IT IS SOMETHING TO BE PROTECTED AND CHERISHED MOST CERTAINLY OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR PARKS AND RECREATION I'M GRATEFUL, AND ALSO THE FACT THAT YOU ARE IN FIRST PLACE IN THE EMPLOYEE GOLF 45 00:18:16.728 --> 00:18:33.678 LEAGUE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN REALLY CELEBRATE AND THAT WE'RE REALLY STRIVING TO OVERCOME AT THIS POINT, BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ALL OF YOU. I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. [APPLAUSE] SO I GET THE LAST WORD. 46 00:18:33.678 --> 00:18:48.826 YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CITY, IT WOULD BE A HOLLOW PLACE WITHOUT PARKS AND RECREATION. THUNK OF IT HALLOWED OF OUR PARKS, HOLLOWED OF OUR SPECIAL EVENTS, HOLLOWED OF OUR PROGRAMS 47 00:18:48.826 --> 00:19:05.577 FOR ALL AGES THAT CREATES THAT INTERGENERATIONAL FEEL. I STARTED OUT MY CAREER FOR A FEW YEARS IN JUVENILE COURT, AND YOU KNOW, IF WE STOP, IF -- IF WE CAN -- WE CAN NEVER STOP REALIZING THERE IS A CONNECT 48 00:19:05.577 --> 00:19:21.927 THERE IF WE DON'T GIVE OUR KIDS THINGS TO DO, THEY'LL FIND OTHER THINGS TO DO AND THEY WON'T ALWAYS BE AS GOOD AND THEY WON'T ALWAYS LEARN THE SAME GOOD LESSONS OF LIFE TO GROW UP AND BE GOOD RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS. SO WHAT YOU ALL DO OUT THERE IS 49 00:19:21.927 --> 00:19:37.175 MULTI FACETTED, AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE SAY OH, REC AND PARKS, YOU KNOW THAT'S JUST SOME FUN AND THROWING BALLS AROUND. BUT WE ALL KNOW IT'S A PROFESSION. IT'S WAY DEEPER THAN THAT. YOU'RE CHANGING LIVES AND IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING AND IT 50 00:19:37.175 --> 00:19:54.026 ACTUALLY DOES CREATE ECONOMIC VITALITY AND JUST OVERALL VITALITY IN OUR CITY. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO, NO DOUBT IN THE WORLD THAT THAT'S WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE COME AND LIVE HERE. IT'S WHY THEY WANT TO STAY HERE. THAT'S WHY THEY WANT TO BE A PARTY HERE. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE MAYORS OF OTHER CITIES COMING TO OUR GOLF 51 00:19:54.026 --> 00:20:11.709 CART PARADE AND OUR HOMETOWN USA. BECAUSE WE'RE A SPECIAL PLACE. AND YOU GUYS MAKE IT SPECIAL. YOU PUT THE SPECIAL IN OUR CITY, SO THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. [APPLAUSE] 52 00:20:11.709 --> 00:20:27.225 WE'RE GOING TO GO ONTO CITIZEN INPUT AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING UNLESS YOU WANT TO, SO OKAY. >> IT IS REALLY HOT OUTSIDE SO MAYBE -- >> MAYOR FREANEY: MAYBE YOU WANT TO, HEY, THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS. OKAY, I'M GOING TO GO TO CITIZEN INPUT. DOES ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK ON A TOPIC THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? 53 00:20:27.225 --> 00:20:51.316 WISH TO COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE. >> HAMMOCK PARK IS MY BACKYARD SO I LOVE PARKS AND RECREATION. IT'S A GREAT PARK. IT'S ALWAYS CLEAN, AND THEY'VE REALLY HAD THEIR STRUGGLES AFTER 54 00:20:51.316 --> 00:21:08.367 THE HURRICANE, AND IT REALLY, YOU KNOW IS COMING UP AND LOOKING NICE. SO THANK THEM FOR THE PARK. ALSO WITH THE PARK IS I HAVE, THAT'S WHY MY INPUT'S HERE IS FOR WE GO TO STERLING GOLF RANGE I'M AN AVID GOLFER I'M ON THE 55 00:21:08.367 --> 00:21:24.916 LIST TO BECOME A MEMBER AT THE DUNEDIN GOLF CLUB, AND THE BALLS ARE LACKING THERE. A LOT OF DON'T EVEN HAVE DIMPLES SO WHEN YOU HITS A BALL THEY JUST STRAY IT'S NOT EVEN A GOLF BALL ANYMORE AND IF YOU GET A MEDIUM BUCKET IT'S LIKE 70 BALLS IF YOU GET A BUCKET YOU'RE ONLY 56 00:21:24.916 --> 00:21:40.265 GETTING 20 BALLS THAT ACTUALLY LOOK GOOD AND WHITE. SO I WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT GETTING YOU KNOW MORE GOLF BALLS YOU KNOW NEEDED THERE BECAUSE IF NOT YOU HAVE TO DRIVE TO CHICHI'S AND I CAN'T TAKE MY GOLF CART TO CHICHI'S SO I GOT TO PACK UP THE CAR, GO ALL THE WAY UP THERE AND YOU KNOW THE BALLS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE 57 00:21:40.265 --> 00:21:56.648 THERE BUT OF COURSE BUT THEY'RE ALL NICE, YOU KNOW, YOU GET ALL NICE BALLS THERE. SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF WE CAN LOOK AT YOU KNOW GETTING MORE GOLF BALLS TO THE STIRLING GOLF RANGE. AND I ALSO WANTED TO SEE ON A SECOND NOTE IS IF WE CAN ACTUALLY GET A, THE LIGHTS ARE ON AT NIGHTTIME THERE, SO I WANT 58 00:21:56.648 --> 00:22:12.531 TO SEE IF WE CAN HIT BALLS AT NIGHT AND GET AN AUTOMATIC BALL DISPENSER THERE. SO YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE JOBS FROM PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE GIVEN BALLS AWAY, BUT IF YOU HAD AN AUTOMATIC BALL DISPENSER YOU CAN HIT BALLS THERE AND IT'S A LOT COOLER THERE. BECAUSE YOU KNOW IF YOU GO TRY TO HIT GOLF BALLS THERE IN THE AFTERNOON, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S 59 00:22:12.531 --> 00:22:28.380 SWELTERING AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO HIT IT WHEN IT GETS A LITTLE DARKER, 11:00 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO I WANTED TO PUT THAT FORWARD TO SEE IF WE CAN GET ANY OF THOSE THINGS DONE AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> MAYOR FREANEY: AWESOME. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. >> SO THAT'S WHY MY BALL KEEPS 60 00:22:28.380 --> 00:22:44.896 ON GOING THE WRONG WAY. [LAUGHTER] >> NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH THE SWING. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> NOTHING WHATSOEVER. >> MAYOR FREANEY: I MEAN, I DON'T THINK I CAN OFFER AN INTELLIGENT STATEMENT ABOUT THOSE COMMENTS EVEN THOUGH I RESPECT THEM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW BUT SOMEBODY CAN AND SOMEBODY OBVIOUSLY NEEDS -- 61 00:22:44.896 --> 00:22:58.844 >> WE WILL ABSOLUTELY HAVE A LOOK INTO THOSE TWO REQUESTS MAYOR. >> MAYOR FREANEY: THAT'S AWESOME. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THOSE. OKAY, ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON AN ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA? OKAY. SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE CITIZEN INPUT AND WE WILL GO TO 62 00:22:58.844 --> 00:23:19.430 THE FIRST WORKSHOP ITEM, WHICH IS JOSIAH CEPHAS WEAVER PARK LIVING SHORELINE PROPOSED DESIGNS AND I WILL TURN TO THE STAFF I GUESS LEADING WITH NATALIE TO TAKE US INTO THAT. 63 00:23:19.430 --> 00:23:37.015 >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, CITY MANAGER. NATALIE GAS, SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF DUNEDIN. CAN YOU SEE THE SLIDES ON YOUR SCREEN? OKAY, THEY ARE JUST PULLING UP RIGHT NOW. 64 00:23:37.015 --> 00:23:53.698 WONDERFUL. SO WHAT A GREAT SEGUE TO TALK ABOUT OUR LIVING SHORELINE AT WEAVER PARK GIVEN IT'S PARKS AND REC MONTH. WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE SHORELINE IMPROVEMENTS, THE DESIGN, AND THE WORK THAT WE'VE 65 00:23:53.698 --> 00:24:08.479 BEEN CONDUCTING UP TO UNTIL THIS POINT AND REALLY UNDERSTAND YOUR DIRECTION AND CONSENSUS FEEDBACK SO WEAVER PARK HAS SHORE LINE EROSION AND THE ENTIRE INTENT F 66 00:24:08.479 --> 00:24:24.563 THIS PROJECT IS TO STRATEGIZE TO UNDERSTAND HOW CAN WE IMPROVE THE SHORELINE IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE FOR THIS PARK. A QUICK PROJECT SUMMARY AND THEN I WILL GET INTO THE OVERVIEW OF TODAY'S MEETING. SO THIS IS AT WEAVER PARK. IT IS 728 LINEAR FEET OF 67 00:24:24.563 --> 00:24:41.713 SHORELINE THAT IS ERODING AND UNSTABLE. THE SOLUTION HERE IS GOING TO BE UTILIZING A NATURE BASED SOLUTION TO REALLY REPLACE THE CRUMBLING RIPRAP SHORELINE AND INCORPORATE NEW RIPRAP, MANGROVES, NATIVE UPLAND 68 00:24:41.713 --> 00:24:56.961 PLANTING, OYSTER RECRUITMENT, AND EXPLORE ADA KAYAK LAUNCH FOR ADDITIONAL PUBLIC ACCESS. CPH CONSULTING WHO I WILL INTRODUCE IN JUST A MOMENT, IS OUR DESIGN AND PERMITTING CONSULTANT WORKING WITH US ON THIS PROJECT. AND WHILE I AM THE PROJECT 69 00:24:56.961 --> 00:25:14.412 MANAGER, WE HAVE A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS AND STAFF BEHIND THIS PROJECT, SO WE HAVE OUR PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM, OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM, AND THEN UTILITIES AND ENGINEERING. AND OF COURSE OUR STRATEGY AND SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION OUT OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. 70 00:25:14.412 --> 00:25:31.596 WE WILL DO BRIEF INTRODUCTIONS. WE HAVE AMANDA AND GABRIELLA JOININGS VIA ZOOM TODAY AND I WILL INTRODUCE THEM IN A MOMENT. I'LL THEN WALK US THROUGH THE BACKGROUND, SCOPE AND PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO CPH AND THEY WILL TAKE US THROUGH THE PROJECT DESIGN 71 00:25:31.596 --> 00:25:47.312 AND THE PHASED ROOCH -- APPROACH THAT WE HAVE FOR THE SHORELINE. I'LL SHARE SOME OF THE PUBLIC INPUT AND SUPPORT THAT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING. AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE EXPENSES AND FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO AMANDA TO MAKE SURE WE CAN HEAR 72 00:25:47.312 --> 00:26:04.628 HER CORRECTLY AND GABRIELLA, AND GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES. >> HI, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS AMANDA MARTIN, FIRST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ACCOMMODATING US TO JOIN REMOTELY. WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT. I'M STATIONED IN MIAMI, FLORIDA, 73 00:26:04.628 --> 00:26:21.512 AND I HAD VISITED DUNEDIN NOT TOO LOCK AGO FOR THE PUBLIC INPUT MEETING MY FIRST TIME THERE. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL CITY. BEAUTIFUL PARKS. I CAN AGREE WITH THE PROCLAMATION, YOU KNOW, STATED EARLIER. AND I'LL TURN THIS OVER TO GABRIELLA. 74 00:26:21.512 --> 00:26:36.695 >>> HELLO, CITY OF DUNEDIN. MY NAME IS GABRIELLA, LEAD ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST. I'M VERY EXCITED TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT. AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. >> WONDERFUL, THANK YOU. >> WE ALSO HAVE KYLE. UNFORTUNATELY HE WAS NOT ABLE TO 75 00:26:36.695 --> 00:26:53.745 JOIN BUT HE'S ENGINEER OF RECORD AND I'M WORKING ALONGSIDE HIM FOR THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING OF THIS PROJECT BUT JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT, AND AS WELL HIGHLIGHT SOME PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED THAT ARE OF SIMILARITY WITH WHAT WE WOULD BE PROPOSING AT THE, WEAVER PARK 76 00:26:53.745 --> 00:27:12.497 SHORELINE IMPROVEMENTS. WE PROVIDED TWO IMAGES HERE JUST TO SHARE SOME COMPONENTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO INCORPORATE INTO WEAVER PARK, SO THE FIRST BEING IN ISLAMORODDA AND KEYS OF 77 00:27:12.497 --> 00:27:29.180 FLORIDA. WE PROPOSE A NEW PAVILION AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE BACKGROUND AND AN ADA COMPLIANT KAYAK LAUNCH OF WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE FOR OUR CURRENT PROJECT WITH 78 00:27:29.180 --> 00:27:44.262 DUNEDIN. SECONDLY WE HAVE A BREAKWATER WE INSTALLED WITHIN FOUNDERS PARK WITHIN RIPRAP, MANGROVE PROTECTION, AND A SIDEWALK ACCESS FOR VISITORS IN THE PARK AS WELL. 79 00:27:44.262 --> 00:28:01.178 >> WONDERFUL, THANK YOU. SO TO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND AND THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT, STAFF WAS TASKED TO REALLY GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE CURRENT STATUS OF OUR SHORELINE. THROUGH MULTIPLE SITE ASSESSMENTS, STAFF DID CONFIRM 80 00:28:01.178 --> 00:28:17.529 THAT THERE IS CONTINUED EROSION AND THE SHORELINE IS UNSTABLE. WE WERE THEN TASKED TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION AND REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST ROUTE FORWARD TO STABILIZE THE SHORELINE. WOULD THAT BE INSTALLING A SEA 81 00:28:17.529 --> 00:28:34.913 WALL OR A LIVING SHORELINE OR A COMBINATION OF BOTH. DURING THE INVESTIGATION, WE LOOKED AT THE PROS, CONS, AND BENEFITS OF EACH SOLUTION. SEA WALL BEING THAT MORE RIGID STRUCTURE THAT PROVIDES DIRECT PROTECTION FROM EROSION AND FLOODING. BUT IT CAN WORSEN EROSION, AND 82 00:28:34.913 --> 00:28:51.563 HABITAT IN ADJACENT AREAS. THIS IS CONSIDERED OO FORM OF TRADITIONAL OR GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE WHEREAS LIVING SHORELINES USE NATURAL SOLUTIONS AND MATERIALS. THEY PROVIDE EROSION CONTROL, BUT ALSO THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE TO ENHANCE THE HABITAT, 83 00:28:51.563 --> 00:29:06.778 INCREASE RESILIENCY OVER TIME, AND IMPROVE WATER QUALITY. THEY ARE CONSIDERED FORMS OF GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE OR NATURE-BASED SOLUTIONS. AN ADDITIONAL ITEM THAT WE LOOKED AT WHICH I FIND THE MOST FASCINATING IN HOW THESE 84 00:29:06.778 --> 00:29:23.527 DIFFERENT APPROACHES ARE OPPOSITE IS THAT A SEA WALL IS STRONGEST ON THE DAY OF INSTALLATION, BUT OVER TIME WILL WEAKEN DUE TO WAVE ATTENUATION, WEATHER CONDITIONS, AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS. A LIVING SHORELINE ON THE OTHER HAND IS WEAKEST ON THE DAY OF 85 00:29:23.527 --> 00:29:39.777 INSTALLATION, BUT ONCE YOU GET PAST THAT POINT WHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO ALLOW THE MANGROVES, SEAGRASSES, OTHER NATIVE PLANTS AND OYSTERS TO RECRUIT, AND GROW AND EXPAND, IT STRENGTHENS OVER TIME. YOU HAVE ROOT SYSTEMS THAT GET 86 00:29:39.777 --> 00:29:55.093 DEEPER, OYSTER RECRUITMENT THAT CONTINUES TO EXPAND ALONG YOUR COASTLINE, AND SO YOU HAVE A STRONGER, MORE RESILIENT SHORELINE THAT EXPANDS OVER TIME. VERSUS THE OPPOSITE. SO WE'RE ALREADY LEANING -- 87 00:29:55.093 --> 00:30:10.541 STAFF WAS ALREADY LEANING IN THE DIRECTION OF PURSUING THE LIVING SHORELINE FOR THIS PROJECT AS IT HAS GREAT BENEFITS, LONG-TERM RESILIENCY, AND THERE ARE REDUCED COSTS COMPARED TO TRADITIONAL SEAWALLS. WE WERE THEN INFORMED BY PINELLAS COUNTY WATER NAVIGATION 88 00:30:10.541 --> 00:30:26.658 THAT THE PROJECT SITE IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A SEAWALL. AND THIS IS PER PINELLAS COUNTY CODE BECAUSE THE SHORELINE IS LONGER THAN 100 FEET IN LENGTH AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TWO EXISTING SEAWALLS ON EITHER SIDE TO CONNECT TO. 89 00:30:26.658 --> 00:30:43.708 WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE BECAUSE OF THAT DECISION, TAKE THE BUDGET THAT WOULD'VE BEEN USED TO CONDUCT A MORE FORMAL INVESTIGATION AND UTILIZE IT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CPH TO HAVE THEM DESIGN THE SHORELINE IMPROVEMENTS AND CREATE THE 90 00:30:43.708 --> 00:30:59.524 ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND SUPPORT THE PERMITTING PHASE. I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS PROJECT ALSO SUPPORTS OUR LARGER INITIATIVES INCLUDING THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT AND ADAPTION PLAN, LIVING SHORELINES ARE ONE OF THE RECOMMENDED 91 00:30:59.524 --> 00:31:15.106 STRATEGIES OUT OF THAT PLAN, AND WE'RE ALREADY MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS ONE AT WEAVER PARK. THE LIVING SHORELINE ALSO IS A GREAT SUPPORT FOR OUR FLORIDA GULF COAST HOPE SPOT WHICH IS ALL ABOUT OCEAN CONSERVATION, 92 00:31:15.106 --> 00:31:32.190 EDUCATION AND AWARENESS, AND REALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE, WHAT WE DO ON THE LAND IMPACTS THE WATER AND VISE VERSA. SO HAVING A SHORELINE AND REALLY SHOWING WHERE THESE TWO PIECES MEET TOGETHER. WE CAN SHOW HOW NATURAL SYSTEMS 93 00:31:32.190 --> 00:31:49.807 CAN BE A GREAT SOLUTION FOR BOTH THE BUILT AND NATURAL ENVIRONMENT. AND I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE PIER IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE OF THE LIVING SHORELINE PROJECT. THIS IS A SEPARATE PROJECT THAT HAS A SEPARATE FUND, TIMELINE, 94 00:31:49.807 --> 00:32:07.258 AND PERMITTING SCHEDULE. WE ARE AWARE OF THE PIER PROJECT IMPROVEMENTS. WE HAVE OURS, OUR IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE LIVING SHORELINE, AND JUST BEING COGNIZANT THAT THOSE TWO ITEMS ARE HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME. WE'RE COLLABORATING AND 95 00:32:07.258 --> 00:32:23.073 UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S HAPPENING ON EACH SIDE, BUT THEY ARE NOT TECHNICALLY A COMBINED PROJECT. SO TO DO THE WORK OF DESIGNING 96 00:32:23.073 --> 00:32:41.125 THE LIVING SHORELINE PROJECT, WE SELECTED CPH. THIS WAS SELECTED BY STAFF AND RECOMMENDED TO CITY COMMISSION. CITY COMMISSION, YOU APPROVED THIS BACK AT THE OCTOBER 2025 MEETING, AND THE SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDE IS REALLY SIX TASKS OF 97 00:32:41.125 --> 00:32:57.641 WHICH WE ARE IN TASK THREE WHICH IS DEVELOPING THAT DESIGN FOR THE SHORELINE. I AM NOW GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CPH AND AMANDA TO WALK US THROUGH SOME OF THE DESIGNS THAT WE HAVE AND REALLY UNDERSTAND THE FORMAL ASSESSMENT THEY'VE 98 00:32:57.641 --> 00:33:14.425 DONE, THE GOALS FOR THIS PROJECT, SHE'LL WALK US THROUGH THE DESIGNS AND THE ENGINEERING DETAILS. >> GREAT, THANK YOU, NATALIE. SO JUST TO ECHO NATALIE'S DESCRIPTION OF THE ASSESSMENT THAT THE CITY HAS MADE FOR THE 99 00:33:14.425 --> 00:33:29.874 SHORELINE, OUR TEAM HAS CONDUCTED AN ASSESSMENT AS WELL AT THE ONSET OF THIS PROJECT, AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED SEVERAL ISSUES WITH THE SHORELINE AND CONTRIBUTING TO ITS DETERIORATION. OVER TIME, WE'VE SEEN A LOSS OF MATERIAL, CREATING VOIDS TO 100 00:33:29.874 --> 00:33:47.158 ALLOW WAVE ENERGY TO FURTHER ERODE THE SHORELINE SO IT'S NO LONGER ERODING THE SEAWALL ITSELF. IT'S ERODING THE EARTH BENEATH IT DUE TO THE DISPLACEMENT OF THIS ROCK. THERE ARE ALSO SEVERAL LOCALIZED WASHOUT AREAS AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE IMAGE TO THE LEFT. 101 00:33:47.158 --> 00:34:03.841 LIKELY CAUSED BY THE CONTINUOUS WAVE ACTION, AND OVERTOPPING DURING THE STORM EVENTS THAT THIS COAST OF FLORIDA IS SUSCEPTIBLE TO. IN ADDITION TO THIS, MANY OF THE EXISTING ARMOR STONES HAVE BECOME DISPLACED, AND ARE UNDERSIZED FOR THE CONDITIONS 102 00:34:03.841 --> 00:34:20.458 THEY ARE EXPERIENCING. REDUCING THE SHORELINE STABILITY AND LEAVING IT MORE VULNERABLE TO FURTHER EROSION. WITHIN OUR NEXT SLIDE HERE, OUR DESIGN MAINLY FOCUSES ON THREE MAIN GOALS, THE FIRST BEING 103 00:34:20.458 --> 00:34:37.842 RESTORING THE SHORELINE STABILITY THROUGH EROSION PROTECTION. THE SECOND WE WOULD BE INCORPORATING MORE OF THAT GREEN LIVING SHORELINE COMPONENTS FURTHER ENHANCING RESILIENCE TO THE SHORELINE. AND THE LAST ONE WOULD BE TO 104 00:34:37.842 --> 00:34:53.824 INCORPORATE RECREATIONAL USE AND ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC. TOGETHER THESE IMPROVEMENTS WILL HELP PROTECT THE SHORELINE FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. 105 00:34:53.824 --> 00:35:10.974 WITH THESE GOALS IN MIND LET'S GET INTO THE COMPOSED COMPONENTS OF THIS PROJECT AND THE OVERALL PROJECT DESIGN. THE TEAM HERE AT CPH HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH NATSALLY AND HER TEAM -- NATALIE AND HER TEAM AT THE CITY TO MAKE THE PROJECT 106 00:35:10.974 --> 00:35:27.324 MORE MANAGEABLE FROM BOTH A CONSTRUCTION AND FUNDING PERSPECTIVE SO WE'VE DEVELOPED A PHASED IMPLEMENTATION APPROACH. PHASE 1 FOCUSED ON THE HIGHEST PRIORITY AT HAND RIGHT NOW WHICH IS AS I MENTIONED TO STABILIZE THIS SHORELINE. THIS WILL INCLUDE A CONTINUOUS 107 00:35:27.324 --> 00:35:43.107 RIPRAP PREVENTMENT THAT WILL EXPEND WATERWARD TO PROVIDE LONG-TERM EROSION FOR THIS PARK, AND WHERE FEASIBLE WE'RE ENTERTAINING THE IDEA OF MAYBE KEEPING THE SEAWALL AS IS, MAYBE 108 00:35:43.107 --> 00:35:58.356 LIKELY REMOVE THE DISPLACED ROCK THAT WOULD HELP WITH CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND THE NOT NEEDING TO DEMOLISH THIS SEAWALL RATHER JUST PROPOSE THIS REVETMENT. INCORPORATING THE LIVING 109 00:35:58.356 --> 00:36:15.506 SHORELINE ELEMENTS FOR BOTH PLANTING MANGROVES AT THE TOE OF THE REVETMENT AS WELL AS PLANTING NATIVE VEGETATION LANDWARD WITHIN THE PARK. IT CAN ATTEN WAIT WAVE ENERGY 110 00:36:15.506 --> 00:36:32.923 WITH THE UPLAND THIS WILL HELP WITH ANY OVERTOPPING THE PARK MAY EXPERIENCE. AVOIDS THE EROSION TO THE ACTUAL LAND WITHIN THE PARK AS WELL. SO ALL THREE OF THESE COMPONENTS WILL 100% INCREASE THE RESILIENCE AND PROMOTE NATURAL 111 00:36:32.923 --> 00:36:49.607 HABITAT DEVELOPMENT AT THE SAME TIME. PHASE 3 INCORPORATES MORESO THE PUBLIC ACCESS AND USABILITY WITHIN THIS PARK BY INCORPORATING A NEW ADA COMPLIANT BOATING LAUNCH. SORRY, FLOATING KAYAK LAUNCH WITHIN THE PARK ON THE NORTH 112 00:36:49.607 --> 00:37:06.057 SIDE, SIMILAR TO A PROJECT THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCED IN DOING. AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THE PARKING SPACES WITHIN THIS PARK ARE ADA COMPLIANT AS WELL. 113 00:37:06.057 --> 00:37:25.609 ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE SLIDES THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED? OKAY. BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SHOWING UP HERE. >> I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE SLIDES THROUGH MY EMAIL BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SEE THEM. 114 00:37:25.609 --> 00:37:42.293 SORRY NATALIE S EVERYBODY ABLE TO SEE IT IN PERSON THOUGH. >> YEAH, THEY'RE UP NOW. >> OKAY. PERFECT. SHOULD I CONTINUE. >> YES, THANK YOU. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. SO OUR TEAM ALONG WITH PROPOSING 115 00:37:42.293 --> 00:37:58.509 THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PLANS WE HAVE CREATED THESE RENDERINGS, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE TEAM AT THE CITY BUT ALSO FOR OUR USE IN THE PUBLIC INPUT MEETING THAT WE HAD CONDUCTED A FEW WEEKS BACK SO WITH THESE RENDERING, IT GIVES, YOU KNOW, A VISUAL CONCEPTION OF 116 00:37:58.509 --> 00:38:14.692 WHAT WE WOULD LIKELY BE PROPOSING SO WITHIN THIS FIRST RENDERING, NOTHING HAS BEEN INCORPORATED. IT IS HOW IT IS AT THE MOMENT WITHIN THE PARK AS WE CAN SEE THE SHORELINE HAS A SEAWALL HUGGING THE SHORELINE FOR THE 117 00:38:14.692 --> 00:38:31.609 ENTIRETY OF THE PARK OF WHICH AS WE MENTIONED HAS BEEN DETERIORATED. OUR FIRST PHASE IN THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS RIPRAP AND IT'S AN OBVIOUS CHANGE FROM WHAT'S CURRENTLY AT THE PARK WITH THIS 118 00:38:31.609 --> 00:38:46.924 RIPRAP REVETMENT BEING EXTENDED WATERWARD PROVIDING FURTHER PROTECTION WITHIN THIS PARK. APPROXIMATELY 11 FEET IS WHAT WE'RE EXPECTED TO DESIGN FOR THIS PROJECT. AND THIS WILL HELP AS I MENTIONED REDUCE EROSION AS WELL 119 00:38:46.924 --> 00:39:03.306 AS PROVIDING RESILIENCY TO THE WAVE ACTION ESPECIALLY DURING TIMES OF WAVE ACTION AND STORMS. WE HAVE SHOWN PROBABLE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, WE WILL LIKELY GET INTO IT IN FURTHER 120 00:39:03.306 --> 00:39:18.722 DETAIL IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES BUT WE HAVE PROVIDED THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR EACH OF THESE PHASES IN A RANGE OF. 121 00:39:18.722 --> 00:39:34.038 AS WE KNOW, INFLATION AND JUST GENERAL COST FOR CONSTRUCTION AND MATERIAL WILL LIKELY INCREASE EVERY YEAR THAT WE DO WAIT. SO WE TOOK THAT INTO ACCOUNT WITHIN THIS RANGE. 122 00:39:34.038 --> 00:39:49.353 OKAY SO WITH PHASE 2, THIS RENDERING SHOWS THE, SHOWS THE COLLABORATIVE IMPROVEMENTS FOR BOTH PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2. 123 00:39:49.353 --> 00:40:08.939 WE HAVE OYSTER DOMES AND OYSTER. THESE WILL LIKELY BE IN THE -- NOT TOO SHALLOW AND NOT TOO DEP AS WELL. WE HAVE THE MANGROVES BEING PLANTED WITHIN THE TOE OF THE REVETMENT. THIS ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE 124 00:40:08.939 --> 00:40:25.756 MANGROVES TO GROW IN THEIR, WITHIN THEIR HEIGHT AND NOT HAVE TO OBSTRUCT THE VIEWS WITHIN THE PARK. WE DO KNOW THAT THAT WAS A CONCERN WITH THE PUBLIC WHEN WE PROPOSED THIS PROPOSED THIS IDEA TO THEM. WHICH WILL LIKELY GET INTO 125 00:40:25.756 --> 00:40:42.272 WITHIN MORE DETAIL BUT WITH ALLOWING TO PROPOSE THESE MANGROVES AT THE TOW OF THE REVETMENT, RATHER THAN THE UPLANDS AREA. THEY WOULD NOT OBSTRUCT THE VIEWS OF THIS BEAUTIFUL PARK. ALONG WITH THE REVETMENT, WE WOULD HAVE THE UPLAND VEGETATION 126 00:40:42.272 --> 00:41:00.057 UPWARD OF THIS PARK, AND WE HAD PROPOSED MANY SPECIES OF WHICH ARE NATIVE TO DUNEDIN. MUCH OF WHICH IS ACTUALLY PLANTED IN CITY HALL, SO WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THESE PLANTINGS ALONG THE ENTIRE SHORELINE AS WELL HELPS WITH THE 127 00:41:00.057 --> 00:41:16.574 RESILIENT AND SPECIFICALLY WITH OVERTOPPING FOR THIS PARK AS I HAD MENTIONED. ONE THING I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AS NATALIE HAD MENTIONED GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH WE WOULD BE PROPOSING WITHIN PHASE 1 WITH THE RIPRAP REVETMENT. IT ALLOWS FOR IMMEDIATE PROTECTION AGAINST EROSION AND 128 00:41:16.574 --> 00:41:32.389 WAVE ENERGY. ONCE THE SHORELINE IS STABILIZED WHICH IS WE CAN BRING IN PHASE 2 AND PROVIDE THE COMPONENTS FOR GREEN LIVING, IT GIVES BOTH THE MANGROVES, THE OYSTER DOAMENTZ AND THE UPLAND PLANTING TIME TO ROOT AND TIME FOR SURVIVAL WITH THE RIPRAP PROVIDING A LITTLE 129 00:41:32.389 --> 00:41:48.539 BIT MORE PROTECTION FOR NOT ONLY THE SHORELINE BUT FOR THOSE COMPONENTS THAT WE WOULD BE INCORPORATING INTO PHASE 2. AND THEN PHASE 3, ALONG WITH PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2 ALREADY BEING IMPLEMENTED WITHIN THIS 130 00:41:48.539 --> 00:42:04.555 PARK, WE WOULD BE PROVIDING AND PROPOSING AN ADA COMPLIANT FLOATING KAYAK LAUNCH. AGAIN THIS IS JUST A RENDERING. THIS IS NOT EXACTLY HOW THIS WOULD BE SITUATED. WE DEFINITELY NEED TO REVIEW THE WATERLINES, HOW WE WOULD BE 131 00:42:04.555 --> 00:42:23.073 CONSTRUCTING THIS, BUT THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE AREA IN WHICH WE WOULD LIKELY PROPOSE THIS KAYAK LAUNCH T. JUST FITS PERFECTLY WITH THE ALIGNMENT OF THE PARKING LOT AND WE DON'T WANT PEEPING DRAGGING THEIR KAYAKS FROM ONE END OF THE PARK TO THE 132 00:42:23.073 --> 00:42:39.689 NEXT. THIS IS LIKELY WHERE THE KAYAK LAUNCH WOULD BE PROPOSED IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PHASE AND WE DO SHOW A SPECIFIC SECTION OF WHICH WE WOULD LIKELY HAVE TO PAVE THIS PARKING LOT JUST FOR ADA COMPLIANCE AND REQUIREMENTS. 133 00:42:39.689 --> 00:42:55.639 IN ADDITION TO THE PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WOULD BE MAKING TO THIS PARK, WE HAVE ENTERTAINED THE IDEA OF INCORPORATING AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT TO THIS PROJECT. SO AS PART OF PHASE 1, AND LIKELY PART OF PHASE 2, WE WOULD PROPOSE INSTALLING INTERPRETIVE 134 00:42:55.639 --> 00:43:11.321 SIGNAGE THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE PURPOSE AND BENEFITS OF THE LIVING SHORELINE AS WELL AS SHOWCASING DUNEDIN'S DESIGNATION AS A FLORIDA GULF COAST HOT SPOT. AS WELL AS RECOGNIZING THE HISTORY AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE 135 00:43:11.321 --> 00:43:27.204 RENOWNED NATURALIST DR. BLATCHLEY OF WHICH WE WILL BE PROPOSING THIS SIGNAGE TO THE SOUTH OF THE PARK. THIS JUST HELPS CREATE A MORE ENGAGING EXPERIENCE FOR VISITORS WHILE PROMOTING BOTH ENVIRONMENTAL AWARENESS AND APPRECIATION FOR THE SITE'S 136 00:43:27.204 --> 00:43:45.823 ECOLOGICAL AND HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE. THESE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES JUST SHOWCASE OUR PRELIMINARY CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN PROPOSING TO THE CITY'S TEAM. THIS FIRST DRAWING WE 137 00:43:45.823 --> 00:43:59.436 INCORPORATE BOTH PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2. THIS IS PRETTY MUCH OUR BASIS OF HOW OUR DESIGN WILL LOOK LIKE. WE HAVE PROPOSED AND CONDUCTED SURVEY WITHIN THIS AREA THAT WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO OUR DESIGN AS WELL. 138 00:43:59.436 --> 00:44:17.721 WE WILL HIGHLIGHT BOTH THE SEAGRASS RESULTS THAT GABRIELLA WILL GET INTO AS WELL. AND JUST INCORPORATING BOTH THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS MANY CROSS-SECTIONS AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE NEXT SLIDE. 139 00:44:17.721 --> 00:44:34.738 THIS WILL JUST SHOWCASE THE IMPROVEMENTS MADE IN A SECTIONAL VIEW FOR THIS SHORELINE. SO AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, OUR RIPRAP REVETMENT IS PROPOSED TO BE ABOUT 11 FEET WATERWARD. IT'S NO LONGER GOING TO HUG THE SHORELINE AS IT IS CURRENTLY. THE MANGROVES WILL BE HUGGING 140 00:44:34.738 --> 00:44:50.720 THE TOW OF THIS REVETMENT IN SPECIFIC AREAS AGAIN NOT TO OBSTRUCT WATER VIEWS FROM THE PARK. AS WELL AS THE UPLAND VEGETATION BETWEEN THE EXISTING WALKING PATH AND THE RYPRAP REVETMENT. 141 00:44:50.720 --> 00:45:06.370 WE WILL NOT BE TOUCHING THE WALKING PATH AT THIS MOMENT OR WITHIN THIS PROJECT. WE ARE JUST PROVIDING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SHORELINE WITHIN PHASE 1 AND 2. 142 00:45:06.370 --> 00:45:23.553 THIS IS OUR SECOND CONCEPTIONAL. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE HAD IN OUR RENDERINGS SPECIFICALLY WITH THE OYSTER DOMES. THIS IS ALL DEPENDENT DURING OUR COORDINATION WITH THE PERMITTING AGENCIES. WE'LL GET INTO THIS IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN TERMS OF THE 143 00:45:23.553 --> 00:45:39.870 OYSTER DOME SPECIFICALLY, BUT THE ALIGNMENT, THE LOCATION, THE SIZING, ALL IS DEPENDENT ON OUR, AS I MENTIONED, COORDINATION WITH ARMY CORPS. AND THEIR REQUIREMENTS FOR PROPOSING THIS WORK WITHIN THIS 144 00:45:39.870 --> 00:45:55.285 SPECIFIC AREA. CONSIDERING THE SITE'S CONDITIONS AND THE RESULTS FROM OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, WE DO INCORPORATE THE KAYAK LAUNCH TO THE NORTH SIDE, WE WILL NOT BE PROPOSING MANY MANGROVES OR OYSTER DOMES WITHIN THAT AREA. 145 00:45:55.285 --> 00:46:09.867 IT IS SOMETHING THE PUBLIC HAD MENTIONED AS A CONCERN. YOU KNOW, JUST TO KEEP THAT AREA CLEAR FOR SAFETY WITHIN VISITORS THAT WILL BE USING THAT AREA FOR KAYAKING. AND THEN I WILL PASS THIS ONTO 146 00:46:09.867 --> 00:46:27.284 GABRIELLA WHO WILL TALK ABOUT THE RECENT SEAGRASS STUDY. >> HELLO, EVERYONE. I WAS THE SCIENTIST THAT CONDUCTED THIS SURVEY. THE BEN THICK SURVEY FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT WAS CONDUCTED ON JUNE 2nd, 2026. WHICH FALLS WITHIN THE PRIMARY 147 00:46:27.284 --> 00:46:42.733 SEAGRASS GROWING SEASON OF JUNE 1st THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30th. SURVEYS CONDUCTED DURING THESE SUMMER MONTHS PROVIDE REGULATORY AGENCIES WITH THE MOST REPRESENTATIVE INFORMATION REGARDING SEAGRASS DISTRIBUTION, MAXIMUM AERIAL EXTENT, AND SPECIES DIVERSITY FOR PERMITTING 148 00:46:42.733 --> 00:46:58.482 AND IMPACT ASSESSMENT PURPOSES. THE SURVEY RESULTS WERE USED TO IDENTIFY AQUATIC RESOURCES AND INFORM PROJECT DESIGN TO AVOID AND MINIMIZE IMPACTS FOR TWO AQUATIC AND BENTHIC RESOURCES. CONDUCTING THE SURVEY DURING THE SEAGRASS GROWING SEASON PROVIDED 149 00:46:58.482 --> 00:47:16.066 THE MOST RELIABLE BASIS FOR ASSESSING EXISTING BENTHIC CONDITIONS AND EVALUATING POTENTIAL PROJECT RELATED EFFECTS. DURING THE JUNE 2nd, 2026, IN WATER INVESTIGATION, CPH USED GRIDS AND TRANSECTS TO LOCATE AND MAP AQUATIC RESOURCES IN THE 150 00:47:16.066 --> 00:47:32.316 STUDY AREA. CPH PERSONNEL CONDUCTED THE BENTHIC SURVEY USING VISUAL AND WATER RECONSENSE AND UTILIZED A GRID BASED SAMPLING METHODOLOGY CONSISTING OF 25-SQUARE FOOT QUADRANTS WITH TRANSECTS SPACED AT 50-FOOT INTERVALS WITHIN THE 151 00:47:32.316 --> 00:47:47.397 QUADRANT AREA. THE QUAT RAT AND -- QUADRAT AND TRANSECT AREAS WERE DEVELOPED TO EASILY -- LOCATION OF THE RESOURCES OBSERVED THE SURVEY. NOW WHAT YOUR SEE ON THE RENDERINGS HERE, PORTIONS OF THE SUBMERGED BOTTOM WITHIN THE 152 00:47:47.397 --> 00:48:04.414 SURVEY AREA WERE VEGETATED WITH SHOAL GRASS MANATEE GRASS, ENCOMPASSING ABOUT 0.42 -- OR .042 ACRES OF THE 1.27-ACRE SURVEY AREA. THESE EXHIBITS DEPICT THE SURVEY GRIDS WITH THE SEVEN TRANSECTS. 153 00:48:04.414 --> 00:48:20.464 THE MEAN HIGH WATERLINE, THE MEAN LOW WATER LINE, THE ORGANIC DEBRIS THAT WE OBSERVED, AND SEDIMENT ACCUMULATION. THE UNVEGETATED BARE BOTTOM. THE PROPOSED OYSTER DOMES, AND THE EXTENT OF THE MANGROVE AND 154 00:48:20.464 --> 00:48:38.348 SEAGRASS RESOURCES. SO THE DESIGN ACTUALLY IS AVOIDING ALL SEAGRASS. THE SEAGRASS IS ACTUALLY IN THE PINK PATCHING, AND THE ORGANIC DEBRIS IS IN THE YELLOW. 155 00:48:38.348 --> 00:48:55.632 MANGROVES IN GREEN, AND OYSTER DOMES ARE PROPOSED IN BLACK. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE AVOIDING ALL SEAGRASS RESOURCES WITH THE CURRENT DESIGN. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 156 00:48:55.632 --> 00:49:11.114 THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, GABRIELLA. SO OUR NEXT TWO SLIDES, WE PRETTY MUCH SHOW ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS OF HOW THESE IMPROVEMENTS WILL LOOK WITHIN THE PARK. THIS WAS USED WITHIN OUR PUBLIC INPUT MEETING AS WELL, AND WAS THE HIGHLIGHT FOR SOME OF THE 157 00:49:11.114 --> 00:49:25.495 RESIDENTS AS THEY CAN NOW VISUALIZE THIS ON AN EYE LEVEL VIEW FOR ALL PHASES TO COME. AGAIN, THE CONCERN FOR MANGROVES BLOCKING WATER VIEWS WAS DEFINITELY A MAIN POINT OF SORRY A MAIN POINT OF, MAIN TOPIC 158 00:49:25.495 --> 00:49:43.045 DURING THAT TIME. SORRY. AND WE WILL LIKELY PLACE THEM IN AREAS THAT WILL NOT OBSTRUCT THESE VIEWS AS WELL AS THE CITY WILL LIKELY BE TRIMMING THESE MANGROVES. THIS IS NOT A DIFFICULT TASK AT HAND. WE'LL JUST LIKELY HAVE TO ENTERTAIN THAT AGAIN WHEN WE GET 159 00:49:43.045 --> 00:49:59.196 INTO THE PERMITTING. AS SPECT OF THIS PROJECT AND SEEING WHAT THESE AGENCIES REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR MANGROVE TRIMMING AND WHETHER PERMITS ARE APPLICABLE IN THIS SPACE BUT FOR THE MOST PART WE'LL STRATEGICALLY PLACE THESE MANGROVES IN AREAS THAT WILL NOT 160 00:49:59.196 --> 00:50:15.112 OBSTRUCT THESE BEAUTIFUL VIEWS FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THIS SHORELINE. BUT IT IS A VERY INTEGRAL PART IN KEEPING THE SHORELINE RESILIENT TO WAVE ENERGY. UNFORTUNATELY JUST THE GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE WOULD BE PROPOSING FOR PHASE 1 WILL IN 161 00:50:15.112 --> 00:50:31.027 CONJUNCTION WITH THESE MANGROVES WILL PROPOSE HIGHLY RESILIENT SHORELINE FOR THIS PROJECT. OUR SECOND RENDERING WE SHOW JUST FROM THE PIER ITSELF. THIS IS ONCE THE PIER IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN 162 00:50:31.027 --> 00:50:47.043 IMPLICATED, THIS IS HOW IT WOULD LOOK FROM STANDING WITHIN THE WATERWAY AREA. AS WE CAN SEE WE HAVE BOTH THE OYSTER DOMES, THE RIPRAP REVETMENT, THE MANGROVES AND UPLAND, VEGETATION, ALL COEXISTING WITH EACH OTHER. 163 00:50:47.043 --> 00:51:04.694 NOT ONLY IS IT A RESILIENT ASPECT BUT IT'S A VERY AESTHETIC ONE AS WELL FOR THIS VERY BEAUTIFUL PARK. OUR NEXT SLIDE IN DISCUSSING WITH NATALIE ON THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR OYSTER RECRUITMENT, 164 00:51:04.694 --> 00:51:18.642 YOU KNOW RATHER THAN LIMITING THE PROJECT TO BOTH THE TRADITIONAL MANUFACTURED OYSTER DOMES, WE ALSO EXPLORED SEVERAL ALTERNATIVE OYSTER RECRUITMENT OPTIONS. THESE INCLUDE OYSTER REEF BALLS, OYSTER VOLCANOS, AND OYSTER RAG POTS. 165 00:51:18.642 --> 00:51:35.892 EACH OF THESE OPTIONS VARY IN COSTS, SIZES, AND EASE OF INSTALLATION. BUT ALL ARE DESIGNED TO PROMOTE OYSTER GROWTH, IMPROVE HABITAT, AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL WAVE ATTENUATION. AS THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, THESE ALTERNATIVES WILL BE EVALUATED TO DETERMINE WHICH 166 00:51:35.892 --> 00:51:53.109 SOLUTION FITS BEST WITH THE CITY'S BUDGET. THEIR MAINTENANCE PREFERENCES, AND JUST LONG-TERM RESTORATION GOALS AS WELL AS SEEG -- SEEING WHAT THE PERMIT AGENCIES SUCH AS ARMY CORPS ESTEEMS AS NECESSARY FOR NECESSARY FOR PROTECTION OF 167 00:51:53.109 --> 00:52:08.491 THIS SHORELINE. THEY WILL LIKELY BE ABLE TO TELL US WHICH OF THESE ALTERNATIVES WE ARE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT AS WELL AS THE REQUIREMENTS NEEDED FOR PERMITTING FOR EACH ONE OF THESE. AND I WILL PASS THIS ONTO NATALIE. 168 00:52:08.491 --> 00:52:25.275 >> THANK YOU. SO I'LL SHARE ON OUR PUBLIC INPUT MEETING THAT WE HAD IN MARCH CPH AND THE CITY OF DUNEDIN JOINED TOGETHER TO HOST A PUBLIC MEETING WHICH WAS WELL ATTENDED OVER 30 PEOPLE, AND WE WERE ABLE TO SHOWCASE SOME OF 169 00:52:25.275 --> 00:52:41.190 THESE RENDERINGS AND DESIGN. ANSWER QUESTIONS, AND ALSO RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC. THE PUBLIC HAD BOTH SUPPORT AND SOME CONCERNS. THE SUPPORT WAS REALLY TO INCORPORATE THE MANGROVES AND UPLAND PLANTINGS. 170 00:52:41.190 --> 00:52:58.475 THEY DID SAY IF ONLY ONE COULD BE SELECTED, THEY DID PREFER THE MANGROVES. WITH THE ALSO INTENTION THAT THEY WOULD BE CONTROLLED FOR THEIR GROWTH. SO THEY WANT TO SEE MANGROVES BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM TAKE OVER. THERE WAS AN IDEA BROUGHT UP TO 171 00:52:58.475 --> 00:53:15.090 SPONSOR OYSTER DOMES, AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE PROJECT AS A MEANS OF FUNDING THE PROJECT. THE DUNEDIN BOAT CLUB WAS HIGHLY IN SUPPORT OF THE KAYAK LAUNCH SAYING IT PROVIDES ECONOMIC IMPACT TO ACCESS CALADESI, AND RELIEVES MARINA PARKING. 172 00:53:15.090 --> 00:53:30.540 AND THERE WAS ADDITIONAL STRONG SUPPORT IF THE OYSTERS AND KAYAK LAUNCH DOWN THE ROAD. SOME OF THE CONCERNS SHARED WERE TO KEEP EITHER THE FENCE THAT IS CURRENTLY INSTALLED IN THE PARK OR INSTALL NO CLIMBING SIGNAGE 173 00:53:30.540 --> 00:53:46.289 FOR THE RIPRAP AREA. THE MANGROVE HEIGHTH AND MAINTENANCE TO MAINTY THE VIEWSHED AND CONTROL THE GROWTH WAS A COMMON THEME BROUGHT UP. AND ALSO NOT OBSTRUCTING THE VIEWS FROM ANY GROUND LEVEL UPLAND PLANTINGS. 174 00:53:46.289 --> 00:54:02.471 THERE WAS SOME CONCERN IN JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHERE THE OYSTER DOMES ARE LOCATED IN REGARDS TO THE KAYAK LAUNCH. THAT THAT WOULD BE A SAFE SPACE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE WATER. AND BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF 175 00:54:02.471 --> 00:54:18.722 THIS PROJECT ISN'T FUNDED NOW WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES TO THE ERODING SHORELINE AND FUTURE CONSTRUCTION COSTS DOWN THE ROAD. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE THE STORMWATER ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND 176 00:54:18.722 --> 00:54:34.838 SUSTAINABILITY. CQS COME THEY WROTE A LETTER OF SUPPORT IN THAT WAS INCLUDED WITH THE AGENDA PACKET. THE LETTER WAS PASSED WITH FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR AND ONE AGAINST AT THEIR MAY 26th MEETING, AND MAINLY SPEAKING TO HOW THE 177 00:54:34.838 --> 00:54:51.154 PROJECT FOR THE SHORELINE WILL FURTHER SUPPORT EROSION CONTROL AT THE SITE AND IT INCORPORATES AN ENVIRONMENTAL APPROACH TO SHORELINE STABILIZATION AND HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE PARTNERSHIPS LOCALLY AND THEN 178 00:54:51.154 --> 00:55:07.137 ALSO PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. THE PROJECT WILL ALSO BE GETTING IN FRONT OF THE CAUSEWAY AND COASTAL WATERWAYS COMMITTEE SOON AT AN UPCOMING AGENDA MEETING. WE HAVE YET TO SET THAT DATE. TOMORROW WE WILL BE BRINGING IT 179 00:55:07.137 --> 00:55:23.820 FORWARD TO THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL, THEY HAVE THEIR RESILIENT SHORELINES MEETING AND SO THEY HAVE A MULTIAGENCY REVIEW TEAM THAT WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING TECHNICALLY AND PROVIDE INPUT AND FEEDBACK. FINALLY, FOR SUPPORT AND REVIEW 180 00:55:23.820 --> 00:55:39.635 FORWARD TO THE DRC MEETING DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, WHERE WE HAVE STAFF FROM REALLY THE MAJORITY OF ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS TO TAKE A LOOK AT EVERYTHING, PROVIDE FEEDBACK, AND JUST SEE IT AS A HOLISTIC 181 00:55:39.635 --> 00:55:56.052 PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO THIS PROJECT HAS A PROJECT PAGE WHICH IS REALLY WONDERFUL. OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM DEVELOPED THIS, AND WE HAVE MANY PROJECT PAGES FOR THE CITY OF DUNEDIN'S PROJECTS. AND THIS ONE ALLOWS COMMUNITY 182 00:55:56.052 --> 00:56:13.069 MEMBERS TO ENGAGE WITH THE PROJECT, SEE THE TIMELINE, AND ITS LIVE SO IT'S UPDATED AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH THE PROJECT. AND WE CONTINUE TO POST INFORMATION AND SLIDES FROM THE 183 00:56:13.069 --> 00:56:27.817 PRESENTATIONS. FOR PROJECT FUNDING, TO DATE WE HAVE $250,000 BUDGETED FOR THIS PROJECT. $150,000 HAS GONE TO CPH CONSULTING FOR THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT. 184 00:56:27.817 --> 00:56:45.568 WHICH LEAVES US WITH $ 100,000 INTENDED TO GO FOR A GRANT TO HAVE GRANT MATCHING FUNDS. WE HAVE BEEN DILIGENTLY WORKING TO SUBMIT GRANTS. WE HAVE NOT BEEN AWARDED ONE FOR THIS PROJECT YET, BUT WE'RE CONTINUING TO APPLY AND HOPING 185 00:56:45.568 --> 00:57:03.553 TO APPLY FOR THE RESILIENT FLORIDA GRANT GIVEN THAT WE HAVE AN ADEQUATE MATCH. I ALSO WANTED TO BRING UP THE CONCEPT OF THE SPONSORSHIPS. THERE ARE ADOPT A MANGROVE OR ADOPT A OYSTER DOME PROGRAMS THAT ARE SEEN THROUGHOUT THE 186 00:57:03.553 --> 00:57:18.668 COMMUNITY. THERE IS ONE THAT THE FLORIDA AQUARIUM HAS STARTED IS CALLED THE MANGROVE LEGACY PROJECT AND I HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM IN A FEW DAYS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS, WHAT IS A VIABLE PARTNERSHIP FOR THAT AND GET SOME MORE DETAILS ABOUT IF THAT 187 00:57:18.668 --> 00:57:36.152 WOULD BE EVEN AN OPTION FOR THIS PROJECT. ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WHICH IS A GREAT WAY TO INVOLVE THE PUBLIC, EDUCATE THEM, CREATE LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES. BUT ALSO REDUCE INSTALLATION 188 00:57:36.152 --> 00:57:52.669 COSTS. BEING ABLE TO HAVE A BUILD A OYSTER DOME DAY OR INSTALLATION DAY WOULD ALLOW US TO WORK AND COLLABORATE WITH LOCAL PARTNERS, AND UTILIZE THE GREAT PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE TAMPA BAY REGION. 189 00:57:52.669 --> 00:58:08.418 BUT ALSO REDUCE THOSE COSTS. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHILE REDUCED COSTS WOULD BE AN OPTION WITH ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, YOU DO HAVE ADDITIONAL STAFF WORKLOAD TO MANAGE AND INCORPORATE ALL OF 190 00:58:08.418 --> 00:58:26.302 THOSE DIFFERENT INSTALLATION DAYS. I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO CPH TO WALK US THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR THE DIFFERENT PHASES AND THEN WE CAN COMPARE THE COSTS. >> PERFECT, THANK YOU. SO DURING THE TIME IN WHICH WE 191 00:58:26.302 --> 00:58:42.418 WERE CONCEPTIONALIZE THIS PROJECT AND THE VARIOUS PHASINGS WE NARROWED DOWN TO PHASE 1, 2, AND 3. DURING THIS TIME WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND OUR RESEARCH FOR PROJECTS WITHIN THE SAME VICINITY AND A SIMILAR 192 00:58:42.418 --> 00:58:57.734 CONSTRUCTION, SPECIFICALLY BID TABULATIONS FROM CONTRACTORS WITHIN THE AREA, AND OF RECENT PROJECTS. SO THESE ARE WHAT THESE COSTS ARE BASED ON. OF COURSE THESE ARE JUST PRELIMINARY COSTS. SOME CAN COME BACK HIGHER, SOME CAN COME BACK LOWER DEPENDENT ON 193 00:58:57.734 --> 00:59:14.117 THE BIDDING CONTRACTORS AT THE TIME IN WHICH THIS IS READY TO BE IMPLEMENTED BUT FOR PHASE 1 SPECIFICALLY, AS I MENTIONED, WE WOULD BE PROPOSING RIPRAP REVETMENT ALONG THE SHORELINE AS WELL AS A SELECT FEW SIGNAGE 194 00:59:14.117 --> 00:59:31.134 WITHIN THE WALKING PATH OF THIS PROJECT. WITH THIS NOT ONLY WOULD WE BE CONSTRUCTING THE RIPRAP, IT WOULD INVOLVE THE MOBILIZATION, DEMOBILIZATION FOR THE PROJECT IN ITS ENTIRETY, SPECIFIC INSURANCE AND BONDS FOR THE CONTRACTOR, EROSION AND SEDIMENT 195 00:59:31.134 --> 00:59:47.050 CONTROL CONSIDERING THAT WE ARE PROPOSING THIS YOU KNOW WITHIN THE WATERWAYS, AND ENSURING THAT WE ARE PROPOSING THE RIGHT BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES ADHERING TO ALL PERMITTING AGENCIES AND JUST CITY AND COUNTY STANDARDS. AS WELL AS MAINTENANCE OF 196 00:59:47.050 --> 01:00:02.265 TRAFFIC WILL LIKELY MINIMIZE THAT AS BEST AS WE CAN AS WELL AS PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE PARK AND SAFE ACCESS AT THAT FOR THE VISITORS. ONE OF THE COST SAVINGS THAT WE COULD ENTERTAIN OR JUST SEE IF IT'S POSSIBLE AND FEASIBLE 197 01:00:02.265 --> 01:00:17.146 WITHIN THIS PHASE IS AS I MENTIONED, LIKELY KEEPING THE EXISTING SHORELINE ROCK SEAWALL AS IS, MAYBE JUST REMOVE A COUPLE OF DISPLACED ROCK. THIS WILL HELP MINIMIZE THE COST BY NOT HAVING TO DO A FULL 198 01:00:17.146 --> 01:00:35.164 DEMOLITION OF THIS SEAWALL. WE'LL LIKELY PROVIDE OUR DECISION ON THAT AS WE FURTHER INTO THE DESIGN AND LIKELY CONDUCT A FURTHER ASSESSMENT WITH OUR STRUCTURAL TEAM: ON TOP OF THAT WE WOULD AS I MENTIONED PROPOSE THE RIPRAP ALONG THE 199 01:00:35.164 --> 01:00:52.315 ENTIRE SHORELINE, AND LASTLY, OUR SITE RESTORATION AND CLEAN-UP JUST TO ENSURE EVERYTHING IS RESTORED AS IT WAS BEFORE OR BETTER. WE DID PROVIDE A CONTINGENCY OF 25% AS I MENTIONED JUST A BUFFER ZONE FOR COSTS THAT MAY COME BACK A LITTLE HEIGHTER THAN WE 200 01:00:52.315 --> 01:01:08.164 ANTICIPATED. BUT AS WE CAN SEE HERE WE DID PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION TOTALS FOR THE YEAR OF 2027, '28, '29, AND '30 DEPENDING ON WHEN THE CITY 201 01:01:08.164 --> 01:01:23.545 CAN ACQUIRE THE FUNDING THEY ARE PURSUING. AS YOU CAN SEE IT DOES INCREASE ABOUT 4% EVERY YEAR DUE TO INFLATION AND JUST GENERAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS INCREASING AS TIME GOES ON. OUR SECOND PHASE INCORPORATES THE SAME GENERAL CONDITIONS AS 202 01:01:23.545 --> 01:01:41.631 WE WILL SEE FOR ALL PHASES, MOB, DEMOAB, INSURANCE, EROSION AND SEDIMENTATION CONTROL, BUT WITHIN THIS PHASE SPECIFICALLY, WE WILL BE PROPOSING THE GREEN LIVING SHORELINE COMPONENTS, MANGROVES, PLANTING, AND THE OYSTER DOMES. WITH THESE THREE COMPONENTS, THE 203 01:01:41.631 --> 01:01:58.481 SAVING COSTS HERE IS DEPEND ON WHETHER WE BRING IN THE VOLUNTEERS INITIATIVE, PARTNERING UP WITH LOCAL AGENCIES, AND ALL JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE PERMITTING AGENCIES COME BACK WITH WITH OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR SIZING OF THE 204 01:01:58.481 --> 01:02:14.664 OYSTER DOMES AS WELL AS PLACEMENT OF THEM RELATIVE TO THE SHORELINE AS WELL. SAME THING HERE. WE KEPT THE CONTINGENCY AT 25 FOR EACH YEAR, AND STILL THE RANGE OF 2027-2030 AND ITS ASSOCIATED INCREASE PER YEAR. 205 01:02:14.664 --> 01:02:30.746 WITH THIS PROJECT, WE'RE EXPECTED FOR IT TO BE ABOUT $490,000. IF THIS WAS TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN 2027, AGAIN, DEPENDS ON WHETHER GRANTS CAN BE PURSUED. THIS PHASE CAN LIKELY BE 206 01:02:30.746 --> 01:02:46.495 CONSTRUCTED IN CONJUNCTION IN PHASE 1 WHICH NATALIE WIT GET INTO SHORTLY, BUT THESE COSTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PHASING APPROACH THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT AND IF WE WERE TO KEEP THESE, THESE SEPARATE COMPONENTS 207 01:02:46.495 --> 01:03:04.347 AS SEPARATE PROJECTS. PHASE 3 INCORPORATES AS I MENTIONED THE SAME GENERAL CONDITIONS BUT HERE WE WOULD BE PROPOSING JUST THE WATER ACCESS COMPONENT FOR THE PROJECT INCLUDING THE FLOATING KAYAK LAUNCH AND JUST THE ADA PARKING 208 01:03:04.347 --> 01:03:19.462 ACCESSIBILITY COMPONENT AS WELL WITH ITS INCREASE IN CONSTRUCTION PER YEAR DEPENDENT ON WHEN WE WOULD IMPLEMENT THIS, IMPLEMENT THIS PROJECT. REALLY IT'S HARD TO GET ANY COST SAVINGS WITHIN THIS PHASE OF THE PROJECT, WE WILL DEFINITELY 209 01:03:19.462 --> 01:03:36.345 EXPLORE THE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES FOR THE KAYAK LAUNCH AND SEE WHAT IS THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE AND COMPATIBLE FOR THE SITE WITHIN THE NORTH SIDE AREA OF THIS PARK. ALL RIGHT SO -- 210 01:03:36.345 --> 01:03:50.960 >> THANK YOU. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COST COMPARISON AND REALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW CAN WE MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD, IT CAN BE COMPLETED IN MULTIPLE PHASES, IT COULD BE COMPLETED ALL AT ONCE. IF YOU'RE DOING EVERYTHING ALL 211 01:03:50.960 --> 01:04:07.710 AT ONCE, YOU WILL SAVE MONEY. BUT OVER THE LONG-TERM, IT IS CHALLENGING TO HAVE THE FUNDS UP FRONT TO DO EVERYTHING AT THE SAME TIME. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GRANT MATCHING REQUIREMENTS, WHETHER 212 01:04:07.710 --> 01:04:23.258 THAT'S A 25% GRANT MATCH REQUIREMENT OR A 50% GRANT MATCH REQUIREMENT, I BELIEVE RESILIENT FLORIDA IS A 50% MATCH. IT IS EASIER TO ALLOCATE FUNDS 213 01:04:23.258 --> 01:04:40.609 FOR DIFFERENT PHASES OF THE PROJECTS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FUND IT ALL AT ONCE. SO HERE'S JUST A BREAKDOWN OF THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. WHETHER THAT'S THREE PHASES, TWO PHASES, DOING EVERYTHING AT THE SAME TIME, AND THEN THE GRANT 214 01:04:40.609 --> 01:04:56.659 MATCHING IS REALLY LOOKING AT PHASE 1 FOR BOTH OPTION 1 AND 2, AND THAT THIRD OPTION IS THE COST MATCH FOR IF EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO BE HAPPENING AT THE 215 01:04:56.659 --> 01:05:11.974 SAME TIME. AND WITH THIS IS UNDERSTANDING THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE $100,000 IN THE PROJECT FUND FOR COST MATCH TO GO AFTER A GRANT, AND AT THIS TIME IT IS NOT SUFFICIENT IN ORDER FOR US TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD EVEN 216 01:05:11.974 --> 01:05:29.225 WHILE WE'RE EXPLORING GRANT FUNDING AS THAT'S NOT A SUFFICIENT MATCH FOR THE PROJECT WHETHER WE PHASE IT OR COMPLETE IT ALL AT ONCE. SO THE PROPOSED SCHEDULE WE'RE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A DESIGN OF DEVELOPMENT AND 217 01:05:29.225 --> 01:05:45.207 PERMITTING. ONCE WE RECEIVE YOUR CONSENSUS DIRECTION, BUT THE IMPLEMENTATION IS REALLY TO BE DETERMINED UNTIL WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROJECT FUNDING AND WHICH ROUTE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE WHETHER THAT'S THE 218 01:05:45.207 --> 01:06:01.723 PHASED APPROACH OR ALL AT ONCE: SO I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS, AND OUR CPH TEAM CAN HELP ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND TECHNICAL INFORMATION IF YOU NEED IT. BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE REQUESTING FEEDBACK FROM ALL OF YOU REALLY ON THE OVERALL 219 01:06:01.723 --> 01:06:17.606 CONCEPT OF THE PROJECT, ADDRESSING ANY VIEW SHED CONCERNS, BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN A REOCCURRING TOPIC FROM PUBLIC, AND THEN UNDERSTANDING IS THERE A PREFERENCE FOR A PHASED APPROACH OR ALL AT ONCE. AND WITH THAT DIRECTION, WOULD 220 01:06:17.606 --> 01:06:34.957 WE LIKE TO SEE A CONTRACTED TURN KEY ?AWLINGSZ OR HEAVILY RELY ON -- INSTALLATION OR HEAVILY RELY ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND FINALLY WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND YOUR INPUT ON THE IDEA OF DOING A FUND-RAISER OR SPONSORSHIP WITH THE ADOPT A MANGROVE OR 221 01:06:34.957 --> 01:06:51.073 ADOPT AN OYSTER DOME. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. I'LL GO TO QUESTIONS AND I'M GOING IT START WITH COMMISSIONER -- GOING TO START WITH COMMISSIONER GOW. >> OH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. WELL DONE, NATALIE. WELL DONE. >> THANK YOU. LET ME SEE. YOU WANT INPUT AND OVERALL 222 01:06:51.073 --> 01:07:06.789 CONCEPT AND DESIGN. GOOD ON YOU. GREAT, GREAT JOB. THE, THE ADA PARKING LOT. IS THAT PARKING LOT AT THIS TIME NOT ADA COMPLIANT? >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. 223 01:07:06.789 --> 01:07:22.438 I BELIEVE IT'S ALL SHELL. >> RIGHT. >> FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. >> IT IS? >> YEAH. >> AND SO SHELL IS NOT -- I'M ASKING, SO I DON'T KNOW. >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I WOULD HAVE TO CONFIRM THAT BUT IT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED THAT WE WOULD PAVE THE ADA PARKING SPOT 224 01:07:22.438 --> 01:07:39.955 AS WELL AS THE PATHWAY TO THE ADA KAYAK LAUNCH. >> OKAY. AND THEN IS THAT PARKING LOT ONLY ACCESSIBLE FOR THOSE MEMBERS WHO ARE DISABLED? FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, I'M 225 01:07:39.955 --> 01:07:55.237 SORRY. >> SO THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT THERE WOULD BE MAYBE ONE ADA PARKING LOCATION OR TWO, WE WOULD HAVE TO DETERMINE THAT, THIS WOULD NOT BE PAVING THE ENTIRE EXISTING PARKING LOT. SO IT WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO BE 226 01:07:55.237 --> 01:08:11.787 USED FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, VISITING THE PARK, IT WOULD JUST BE DESIGNATING A SPACE INTENTIONALLY FOR THOSE WHO CAN UTILIZE THE KAYAK LAUNCH. >> OKAY SO WOULD THE ENTIRE LOT BE ASPHALT OR JUST THOSE ONE OR TWO SPACES. >> JUST THE ONE OR TWO SPACES 227 01:08:11.787 --> 01:08:29.038 AND THE PATHWAY LEADING TO THE KAYAK LAUNCH. >> I'M SURE YOU WENT OVER THIS DURING THE PUBLIC INTERACTION. WHY IS THERE A NEED FOR A SEPARATE KAYAK LAUNCH AND PIER 228 01:08:29.038 --> 01:08:45.354 VERSUS JUST APPLYING A KAYAK LAUNCH ONTO THE EXISTING PIER IS IN. >> SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS JUST BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF THAT PIER AND GETTING KAYAKS ON AND OFF OF THAT PIER. AND IT'S CHALLENGING FROM AN ADA 229 01:08:45.354 --> 01:09:01.270 PERSPECTIVE TO EASILY LAUNCH. >> IT'S A FLOATING DOCK AS WELL. >> YEAH. >> SO IT'S THE HEIGHT OF THE DOCK VERSUS THE LAUNCH. IS PROBLEMATIC FOR ADA AS WELL. >> OKAY. OKAY. I KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC HAD 230 01:09:01.270 --> 01:09:19.388 CONCERNS ABOUT THE MANGROVES AND THE HEIGHT AND THE VIEW OR CROWDING AT THAT LAUNCH LOCATION. FOR ME FIRST AND FOREMOST THIS IS ABOUT RESILIENCY. AND SO I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT IF THERE IS ANY GAP IN 231 01:09:19.388 --> 01:09:36.071 MANGROVES WHETHER THAT WEAKENS THE OVERALL CONCEPT. YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN TRIM THE MANGROVES SO CAN WE LET THEM GROW UP TO THE LAUNCH, BUT THEN KEEP THEM MAINTAINED AND MANICURED SO THAT THERE'S EASY 232 01:09:36.071 --> 01:09:53.322 ACCESS BUT WE DON'T HAVE GAPS ON EITHER SIDE. ALSO THE OYSTER BED. THE WAY THAT IS DESIGNED, DOES THAT MAKE, IF I LAUNCH MY KAYAK FROM THE SHORE, AM I ABLE GET TO GUEST PAST -- GET PAST THOSE 233 01:09:53.322 --> 01:10:11.273 OIZER BEDS OR DO THEY CREATE A BARRIER THAT CAN'T BE BROACHED EITHER WAY INGRESS OR EGRESS? >> THE CURRENT DESIGN IS THAT THAT WOULD CREATE A BARRIER BUT WE COULD LOOK AT CREATING A PATHWAY OUT TO THE WATERWAY IF YOU'RE LAUNCHING FROM THE 234 01:10:11.273 --> 01:10:26.889 SHORELINE. BUT WITH THE ADDITION OF THE RIPRAP REVETMENT AND THE MANGROVES, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU WOULD LAUNCH FROM THE SHORE. AND SO IT WOULD REALLY BE DIRECTING PEOPLE TO LAUNCH FROM THE DESIGNATED KAYAK LAUNCH AREA FOR SAFETY SO THAT THEY'RE NOT 235 01:10:26.889 --> 01:10:43.705 TRYING TO WALK OVER THE RIPRAP. >> OKAY AND THAT LEADS TO ME THOUGHT ON CLOSING IN THOSE MANGROVES BECAUSE IF YOU DO LEAVE A GAP, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LAUNCH THERE WHETHER WE TINK IT'S LOGICAL OR NOT. THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT. 236 01:10:43.705 --> 01:11:00.622 SO I WOULD JUST BE -- AND AGAIN I'M NOT A MANGROVE EXPERT. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE OR A CONNECTION BETWEEN THE HEIGHT OF A MANGROVE AND THE DEPTH OF THE ROOTS? >>> I DON'T KNOW. BUT I CAN FIND OUT. >>> IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU MAY KNOW? 237 01:11:00.622 --> 01:11:17.171 >> THAT IS SOMETHING I DO NOT KNOW. THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION. BUT I DO KNOW THE ROOTS GO VERY, VERY DEEP BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT HOW TALL COMPARED TO HOW THE ROOT SYSTEM IS AND THERE IS BLACK, WHITE, AND RED MANGROVES 238 01:11:17.171 --> 01:11:33.555 ALL ALONG THE SHORELINE, SO I WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH TO SEE THE DIFFERENCES IN THOSE THREE SPECIES. >> OKAY, YES. >> JUST TO TOUCH BASE ON WHETHER THOSE GAPS OF THE MANGROVES 239 01:11:33.555 --> 01:11:49.905 CREATE WEAKENING AREAS WITHIN THE SHORELINE. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO IMPLEMENT THOSE THREE GREEN LIVING QUM PONENTS FOR THOSE AREAS -- GREEN LIVING COMPONENTS FOR THOSE AREAS AS WELL. OUR BEST RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR BOTH THE RIPRAP REVETMENT 240 01:11:49.905 --> 01:12:05.520 AND COMPLETE MANGROVE LINING WITHIN THE SHORELINE. THAT IS TO PROVIDE THE UTMOST RESILIENCE FOR THIS SHORELINE BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC'S CONCERNS WITH NOT LINING THE ENTIRE SHORELINE WITH MANGROVES. IT IS A PARK THAT MANY PEOPLE GO TO TO, YOU KNOW, FOR THE VIEWS, 241 01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:21.670 FOR THE VISTAS SO, WE WILL EXPLORE THE IDEA OF PROVIDING GAPS WITHIN THE SHORELINE FOR THOSE VIEW SHEDS. BUT AS WELL AS ENSURING THAT THOSE SPECIFIC GAPS ARE STILL PROTECTED, WHETHER THAT BE MAYBE INCORPORATING ANOTHER LAYER OF 242 01:12:21.670 --> 01:12:38.754 OYSTER DOMES, AND JUST, JUST EVALUATING THAT DURING OUR DESIGN. WE DON'T WANT ANY SEGMENT WITHIN THE SHORELINE TO BE EXPOSED SO THAT'S A GOOD POINT. WE WILL DEFINITELY CONSIDER THAT DURING DESIGN. >> I JUST WANTED TO ALSO SAY THAT WHEN WE DO DO THE PLANTINGS 243 01:12:38.754 --> 01:12:53.035 AROUND, THE MANGROVES WILL NATURALLY MOVE OUTWARD, AND IT WILL CREATE A WHOLE SHORELINE. IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE SOME YEARS FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. BUT IT WILL HAPPEN. AND THERE ARE PERMITS THAT YOU 244 01:12:53.035 --> 01:13:11.420 CAN OBTAIN FROM FDEP TO KEEP IT A CERTAIN DEPTH DOWN I SHOULD SAY FOR LINE OF SIGHT. SO THAT CAN ALL BE WORKED OUT. >> AND THERE IS SUCH THING AS ALSO TRIMMING THE ACTUAL MANGROVES ITSELF TO PROVIDE THOSE VIEW SHEDS AS WELL SO THAT 245 01:13:11.420 --> 01:13:28.136 IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE WILL DEFINITELY DISCUSS WITH THE CITY IN REGARDS TO THEIR YOU KNOW THEIR MAINTENANCE UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS A MAINTENANCE COMPONENT WHEN INCORPORATING THIS, BUT IT DOES HELP WITH KEEPING THE VIEW SHEDS BUT ALSO KEEPING THE SHORE STABLE AS WELL. >> AND I WOULD LIKE TO 246 01:13:28.136 --> 01:13:46.020 UNDERSTAND A LITTLE MORE FROM THE PUBLIC ON WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE AS FAR AS THE VIEWING, AS FAR AS THE VIEWING IS CONCERNED. AND WE USE IT IF A LOT OF PARK- CONCERTS -- FOR A LOT OF CONCERTS, FOR EXAMPLE. SO IS THEIR CONCERN THAT BY 247 01:13:46.020 --> 01:14:03.272 SITTING IN MY LAWN CHAIR WATCHING A CONCERT I WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE THE WATER? ARE THEY GOING TO WANT US TO KEEP THOSE MANGROVES AT 2 FEET, AT 3 FEET, AT 4 FEET? >> THE MINIMUM IS 6 FEET. THAT'S HOW TALL THEY WANT THEM FROM THE ROOT SYSTEM. 248 01:14:03.272 --> 01:14:19.721 AND BUT SINCE THEY WILL BE PLACED AT THE TOW OF THE SLOPE, THAT, THAT HEIGHT WOULD ACTUALLY BE LOWER THAN YOU THINK. SO. >> THE WALL IS ABOUT 5 FEET, SO WITH THAT, WE WILL PROBABLY ONLY I GUESS BASED OFF GABRIELLA'S 249 01:14:19.721 --> 01:14:37.939 HEIGHT JUST A FOOT BUT THEY WERE MAINLY CONCERNED OF, YES, IN THE EVENT OF THESE CONCERTS, AND JUST BEING OUT ON THE LAWN, NOT ONLY WITH THE MANGROVES BUT THE UP LAND PLANTINGS AS WELL BUT LUCKILY THE UPLAND PLANTINGS WE WILL SELECT SPECIES THAT KEEP A LOW PROFILE SO THAT WE CAN AVOID 250 01:14:37.939 --> 01:14:54.222 YOU KNOW BLOCKAGE OF VIEWS. >> MM-HMM. >> OKAY. AND I DO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS BUT I'M GOING TO RELINQUISH MY TIME TO ALLOW THE OTHER MEMBERS. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY. COMMISSIONER DUGARD, QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M GOING TO APPROACH THIS ONE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. 251 01:14:54.222 --> 01:15:12.407 MY QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON AMORTIZATION TIME AND THINGS LIKE THAT. CAN YOU SHARE WITH ME WHEN THE LAST TIME THIS KIND OF OBVIOUSLY WE'VE PUT RIPRAP IN THE PAST. WHEN WAS THAT DONE? WHAT'S THE LIFE OF THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT BEEN AND HOW 252 01:15:12.407 --> 01:15:29.391 OFTEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE IT IN THE FUTURE. I'M SORRY THERE ARE THREE QUESTIONS THERE SO PICK WHICH ONE YOU WANT TO START WITH. >> SO FROM MY RESEARCH AND PERMIT DIGGING, I SAW THAT THIS REVETMENT WAS BUILT AROUND 1980 253 01:15:29.391 --> 01:15:46.941 SOMETHING. SO IT'S DEFINITELY HAD ITS LIFE FOR SURE. SO IT'S BEEN WHAT 30, 40 YEARS ABOUT. >> AND WHAT'S THE EXPECTED LIFE OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE? >> THE LIVING SHORELINE IT JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER WITH TIME. 254 01:15:46.941 --> 01:16:02.890 LIKE NATALIE SAID, IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE OPPOSITE OF PUTTING IN A SEAWALL WHERE IT DETERIORATES OVER TIME. THE LIVING SHORELINE WOULD ONLY GET BETTER OVER TIME. SO THIS ISN'T. >> WE WON'T HAVE TO REPLACE THIS RIPRAP? >> NOT FOR OH, GOSH, I DON'T KNOW. 255 01:16:02.890 --> 01:16:20.008 >> I WOULD SAY OVER 50 YEARS. >> YEAH. >> BUT WITH THE GREEN LIVING SHORELINE IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTED IN ADDITION TO THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE IT LASTS LONGER AND IT ALSO PREVENTS FURTHER EROSION TO THE GREEN, TO THE GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL, SO IN 256 01:16:20.008 --> 01:16:37.492 TANDEM THEY WILL JUST LAST A LOT LONGER THAN ANTICIPATED OR A LOT LONGER THAN IF JUST THE GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE WERE IMPLEMENTED. >> LIKE BEFORE. >> MM-HMM. >>> ALL RIGHT. I SUSPECT THE REASON THAT PIER IS THERE BECAUSE OF THE SAME CONCERN REGARDING VISIBILITY AND SEEING THE SOUND. 257 01:16:37.492 --> 01:16:55.110 WHY WAS THAT NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PROJECT? >>> WHY WAS THE -- >> THE PIER RENOVATION. >> THEY'RE FROM A SEPARATE FUND, SO THEY HAVE THEIR SEPARATE PROJECTS. >> YEAH WE HAVE A SEPARATE FUNDING SOURCE, AND PROACT IF 258 01:16:55.110 --> 01:17:11.293 THE PIER. >> OKAY. IT WOULD BE, I'LL GET INTO THAT IN THE COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THE KAYAK LAUNCH YOU SAID THIS HAD BEEN REVIEWED BY OTHER COMMITTEES AND THEY WERE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE STRUCTURE AND THE WAY WE'RE DOING THIS, IS 259 01:17:11.293 --> 01:17:27.976 THAT CORRECT? >> WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS FOR THE KAYAK LAUNCH. THESE ARE THE PRELIMINARY DESIGNS THAT WE HAVE WORKED THROUGH BUT ALL OF THOSE DESIGNS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC AT THE PUBLIC INPUT MEETING, AND THOSE ADVISORY COMMITTEES. 260 01:17:27.976 --> 01:17:42.824 >> OKAY I CAN'T RECALL THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME THAT HAS BEEN ADVOCATING FOR THIS PIER LAUNCH. WAS HE -- >> ERIC GRAVES. >> HAS HE BEEN CONSULTANT OR IS HE IN AGREEMENT. >> YES. >> I THINK HE WAS AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> HE WAS AT THE PUBLIC MEETING IN -- YES, SHARED THE SUPPORT. >> OKAY. HAVE WE ANALYZED THE POTENTIAL 261 01:17:42.824 --> 01:18:01.009 LIFE OF THIS ON THE BASIS OF SEA LEVEL RISE? >> SO WITH THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT, AT THAT'S SEA LEVEL RISE IS INCORPORATED INTO THAT, LIVING SHORELINES ARE A COMPONENT AND A SOLUTION FOR AN 262 01:18:01.009 --> 01:18:16.925 ADAPTATION STRATEGY FOR THAT, SO YES, THE MANGROVES, THE SELECTION OF THE MANGROES BEING SALT TOLERANT AND SELECTING THOSE THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE AN INFLUX IN TIDAL AND SEA LEVEL RISE, WILL BE SELECTED 263 01:18:16.925 --> 01:18:34.810 AS WELL AS THE UPLAND PLANTINGS BUT YES IT IS BEING INCORPORATED TO LOOK AT SEA LEVEL RISE FOR THIS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S ALL I HAVE AT THIS TIME, MAYOR. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY. VICE MAYOR, QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 264 01:18:34.810 --> 01:18:50.725 YEAH, I THINK YOU COVERED THE KIND OF THE HISTORY OF THE CURRENT REVETMENT AND THE, AND THE 1980s, YOU KNOW, IT APPEARS THAT BASICALLY THE APPROACH WAS TO TAKE SLABS OF CONCRETE AND JUST PILE THEM UP 265 01:18:50.725 --> 01:19:07.776 ON THE SHORE WITH THE HOPES THAT IT WOULD DO GOOD THINGS. I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER ANY OF THAT MATERIAL CAN BE REUSED. IS THAT FACTORED INTO OUR COST ANALYSIS? >> SO THE WAY THE COST BREAKDOWN, IT INCLUDES REMOVAL 266 01:19:07.776 --> 01:19:24.226 OF THAT MATERIAL, AND THAT ONE JUST ALLOWS US TO SEE FULL COST IF NEED BE. THE IDEA THERE IS TO DO A FURTHER ANALYSIS BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO USE AS MUCH OF THAT MATERIAL THAT'S CURRENTLY EXISTING THERE IN THIS PROJECT 267 01:19:24.226 --> 01:19:37.872 AS A FOUNDATION. THERE MAY BE SOME PIECES THAT NEE TO BE REMOVED BUT THAT IS THE GOAL. WE'RE JUST BEING A LITTLE BIT CONSERVATIVE WITH THE COST APPROACH. IF NEED BE. >> YEAH. YEAH, SEE, I SEE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE. 268 01:19:37.872 --> 01:19:54.823 YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THAT, THAT THE APPROACH AND THE SPECIFICALLY THE DESIGN APPROACH IS CHANGES CONSIDERABLY SINCE 1980. AND SO HOPEFULLY THERE IS A WAY 269 01:19:54.823 --> 01:20:14.042 TO REUSE THAT MATERIAL. WITH REGARDS TO THE MANGROVES, I'D APPRECIATE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN BLACK, RED, AND WHITE, BUT I GUESS THE QUESTION IS AS 270 01:20:14.042 --> 01:20:29.490 IT PERTAINS TO GAP AND THE EXTENT OF THE COVERAGE, IS THERE A PREFERENCE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME BUT UNIQUELY DIFFERENT. >> IN TERMS OF SELECTING THE PLAN -- MANGROVES? 271 01:20:29.490 --> 01:20:45.273 I CAN SEE IF GAB RIELLA OR AMANDA HAVE A COMMENT COMMENT ON SELECTION. >> YEAH I WOULD SAY HAVING ALL THREE IT JUST OFFERS MORE TO THE ENVIRONMENT, THE WAY THE ROOTS ARE, SOME, LIKE THE RED MANGROVE, THE ROOTS COME OUT OF 272 01:20:45.273 --> 01:21:02.390 THE GROUND AND IT GIVES JUST, IT GIVES MORE VARIETY IF YOU HAVE ALL THREE IN MY OPINION. AND ALL THREE ARE ALREADY OUT THERE CURRENTLY. SO IT JUST KIND OF GIVES, GIVES MORE OF A SELECTION TO THE FISH 273 01:21:02.390 --> 01:21:20.141 AND YOU KNOW WHATEVER SEA-GRASS, OYSTERS, IT JUST GIVES KIND OF DIFFERENT GROW VARIETY. I WOULD SAY ALL THREE WOULD BE A GOOD APPROACH. >> YEAH, AND I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER TOO BECAUSE I YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW, HOW IT'S CURRENTLY 274 01:21:20.141 --> 01:21:36.358 DONE OUT AT HONEYMOON AND YOU START LOOKING AT THE SLOPE DOWN TO THE WATER, YOU HAVE THE WHITE MANGROVES WHICH ARE TYPICALLY A LITTLE BIT OF A HIGHER GROUND MANGROVE AND THEN IT PROGRESSES INTO THE BLACK WHICH ARE MORE OF THE ROOT SYSTEM, BUT WHERE THE 275 01:21:36.358 --> 01:21:53.141 REAL PROTECTION FROM THE EROSION HAPPENS IS WITH THE RED MANGROVES, SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, THAT'S MY REASON FOR THAT IS I'M HOPING THAT GETS INCORPORATED INTO THE ANALYSIS 276 01:21:53.141 --> 01:22:09.123 OF THIS. JUST CURIOUS, AND I TRIED TO FIND THIS IN THE MINUTES, BUT I KNOW THAT THE VOTE WAS 5-1 WITH THE CEQS. WHAT WAS THE CONCERN ON THE DESCENT? >> THE VIEW SHED. >> WHAT WAS IT? >> THE VIEW SHED, HAVING MANGROVES THERE. >> THE VIEW, OKAY. >> AT ALL. 277 01:22:09.123 --> 01:22:27.075 >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WHAT WERE THE CONCERNS WITH REGARD TO THE OYSTER DOMES AND THE SAFETY OF KAYAKING. >> SO SINCE OYSTERS ARE SHARP, THEY JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DESIGN WOULD ALLOW FOR 278 01:22:27.075 --> 01:22:43.525 KAYAKERS TO UTILIZE THE FLOATING KAYAK LAUNCH AND SAFELY ACCESS THE WATER WITHOUT HAVING TO NAVIGATE THE OYSTERS. WHICH IS FAIR. >> OKAY. YEAH. 279 01:22:43.525 --> 01:22:59.374 I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, MAYOR. >> COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN, QUESTIONS? ST. >>> YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT KAYAKS, ARE THERE ANY KAYAKS BEING, ARE PEOPLE LAUNCHING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW? >> WELL, NOT CURRENTLY BECAUSE THE PIER IS CLOSED, BUT I BELIEVE PEOPLE HAVE USED THE 280 01:22:59.374 --> 01:23:16.524 PIER TO LAUNCH IF I UNDERSTAND. BUT IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING LAUNCHING POINT BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF THE PIER. IT IS ALSO NOT ADA ACCESSIBLE. >> SO THEY'VE ACTUALLY TAKEN THEIR KAYAKS ALL THE WAY TO THAT FLOATING DOCK OUT ON THENED? >> POSSIBLY. >> IS THERE ANY WAY TO, THIS IS 281 01:23:16.524 --> 01:23:32.740 JUST SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT BEAUTIFUL PIER THAT'S THERE. I KNOW IT'S DAMAGED. AND I KNOW IT'S HOPEFULLY SOME DAY IT'LL BE FIXED BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO MAYBE USE THAT SOMEHOW RATHER THAN SPENDING THE EXTRA MONEY FOR THE ENNEW KAYAK DOCK. 282 01:23:32.740 --> 01:23:48.123 I KNOW THAT I'VE LISTENED TO PEOPLE COME UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT KAYAK LAUNCHING, BUT I HAD NO IDEA WE WERE GOING TO GO SO FAR AS TO BUILD AN ENTIRE NEW DOCK FOR THEM. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MORE JUST BEACH ACCESS OR ACCESS THROUGH THE, FROM THE SHORE. 283 01:23:48.123 --> 01:24:06.574 YOU KNOW, IN LOOKING AT CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE 17? THAT ONE. OKAY SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE 284 01:24:06.574 --> 01:24:22.023 TODAY. NOW, DURING THE PRESENTATION, AND I THINK IT KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH WHAT VICE MAYOR SAID, THOSE CHUNKS OF CONCRETE, AND I BELIEVE I HEARD THAT THERE COULD BE SOME OF THEM THAT COULD BE MOVED, REPLACED, OR 285 01:24:22.023 --> 01:24:39.774 REPOSITIONED. WAS I CORRECT IN LISTENING TO THAT BECAUSE THAT SOUNDS A WHOLE LOT LESS MONEY THAN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> YES, YES, ULTIMATELY WE'RE GOING TO USE AS MUCH OF THE CURRENT AND EXISTING RIPRAP AND CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL THAT'S OUT THERE AS A FOUNDATION, AND ADD TO IT. THERE MAY BE PIECES THAT NEED TO 286 01:24:39.774 --> 01:24:57.325 BE REMOVED SO THAT LINE ITEM FOR REMOVAL IS HIGHER, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE COSTS, BUT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW YET HOW MUCH MAY HAVE TO BE REMOVED, SO IT'S REALLY MORE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO LOOKING AT COST. 287 01:24:57.325 --> 01:25:13.074 >> OKAY AND IF WE GO TO SCREEN 18 THAT KIND OF LEADS INTO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT I RECOGNIZE IT'S ALL BEEN, THAT WOULD BE NEW RIPRAP IN THE CURRENT CONCRETE REMOVED, AM I CORRECT? >> CRES, OR WE COULD UTILIZE 288 01:25:13.074 --> 01:25:31.059 WHAT'S EXISTING AS A BASE FOUNDATION AND ADD TO IT OVER TOP. >> OKAY. IMMEDIATELY NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE PIER, WHY ARE THOSE TWO SPOTS LEFT WITHOUT ANY RIPRAP ADDED TO THOSE? >> SO JUST TO THE NORTH IS A I'M 289 01:25:31.059 --> 01:25:45.740 GOING -- WE HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE THERE. THERE IS A PIPE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STORMWATER OR -- YES. STORMWATER. STORMWATER PIPE, SO ALLOWING, THANK YOU, ALLOWING THAT TO FLOW 290 01:25:45.740 --> 01:26:03.291 OUT AND THEN I WOULD NEED TO CHECK ON THAT PIECE RIGHT THERE BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THAT MIGHT. >> THERE IS TWO OUTLETS. THERE ARE TWO PIPES. TO THE NORTH OF THE PIER AND THE SOUTH OF THE PIER. MM-HMM. 291 01:26:03.291 --> 01:26:19.974 >> SO THERE IS A PIPE ON THE SOUTH SIDE THERE. >> YEAH, THERE ARE THREE. >> YEAH, DURING OUR DESIGN, WE WILL, WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO PROTECT THOSE PIPES. WE WANT WANT TO -- WOULDN'T WANT TO PROPOSE THIS ON TOP OF. IT COULD DEFINITELY CAUSE DAMAGE TO THOSE PIPES ND WE DON'T WANT 292 01:26:19.974 --> 01:26:35.857 THAT. BUT IT'S HARD TO ORIENT MYSELF WITHIN THIS IMAGE BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE NORTH SIDE IS THE RIGHT OF THE IMAGE. IN THAT GAP THERE WE DO HAVE EXISTING MANGROVES SO I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE GABRIELA CAN TALK MORE ON THAT BUT WITH THESE 293 01:26:35.857 --> 01:26:53.141 EXISTING MANGROVE AREAS WE CANNOT PROPOSE RIPRAP. WE CAN'T REALLY PROPOSE ANYTHING IN THOSE AREAS. IT'S PART OF THEIR REQUIREMENTS SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO WHY WE SHOW THAT GAP BUT ALSO TO ALLOW WATER TO SEEP THROUGH TO THOSE 294 01:26:53.141 --> 01:27:09.724 MANGROVES, AND TOWARDS THE LEFT SIDE WHERE WE DON'T SEE RIPRAP WE ARE TRYING TO PROTECT THAT AREA AS WELL BUT DURING OUR DESIGN WE WILL INCORPORATE AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITHOUT IMPANTHING THOSE MANGROVES. -- IMPACTING THOSE MANGROVES. WE DO WANT THE ENTIRE RIPRAP TO 295 01:27:09.724 --> 01:27:25.773 BE COVERED AS WELL AS OUTFALLS AND MANGROVES. >> JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, DO WE KNOW THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE SOUTH AND THE NORTH OF THE SHORELINE F. WE DO THIS AND 296 01:27:25.773 --> 01:27:41.656 NEIGHBORS DON'T IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE GOING TO MAYBE HAVE CARRYOVER ON IN DAMAGE TO OUR PROPERTY. DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT'S -- THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME TO THE NORTH. >> YES, PRIVATE PROPERTY. >> OKAY. >> ON EACH SIDE. >> SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF SHORE PROTECTION THEY HAVE? >> I DON'T KNOW. 297 01:27:41.656 --> 01:27:58.772 I DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE SEAWALLS. >> OKAY. OKAY. GOOD. THAT'S ALL I HAD, MAYOR. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, SO IF THEY HAVE SEA WALLS ON EITHER SIDE DOES THAT AFFECT THIS PROJECT AT ALL OR IS IT STILL. >> I DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE SEA WALLS AND I CAN CONFIRM THAT AND 298 01:27:58.772 --> 01:28:16.257 GET BACK TO YOU. BUT WHEN PINELLAS COUNTY WATER NAVIGATION REVIEWED THE SITE, THAT WAS I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR A SEAWALL IS BECAUSE THERE ISN'T AN ADJOINING SEAWALL ON EITHER SIDE. >> SO IT WOULD HURT THEM IF WE 299 01:28:16.257 --> 01:28:32.440 GOT A SEAWALL. THAT MAKES SENSE. A COUPLE THINGS. FIRST MY QUESTION ON THE PIER. WHAT IS IS THE TIMELINE ON THE PIER? >> [OFF MIC] >> I JUST GOT ASKED THIS QUESTION YESTERDAY. 300 01:28:32.440 --> 01:28:48.790 HEY, TONY. >> MORNINGERSE AGAIN. TOBY MOLLKY, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECT. WE WERE WORKING ON THE PIER. WE TALKED WITH THE ENGINEER LAST FALL WE WERE MOVING TOWARDS TRYING TO SCOPE OUT A PROJECT AND HOPEFULLY FALLING UNDER THE NATIONWIDE PERMITTING THROUGH 301 01:28:48.790 --> 01:29:05.405 THE CORPS, AND ADDING IT TO AN EXISTING CONTRACTOR. WE MET WITH CONSULTANTS ON THIS AND THEY DISCUSSED THAT WE HAD TO PUT IT OUT FOR A FRESH BID SO THAT KIND OF CHANGES HOW WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. 302 01:29:05.405 --> 01:29:21.989 SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PATH FORWARD THIS FALL TO BE ABLE TO PUT IT OUT ON THE STREET AND GET SOME NUMBERS. >> SO WE HAVE NO IDEA. >> NOT AT THE MOMENT. >> IS IT FEMA REIMBURSED? >> YES, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO THEY CAN THE EXTRA STEPS. 303 01:29:21.989 --> 01:29:38.272 >> -- TAKE THE EXTRA STEPS. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY. GOTCHA. I WAS NE'ER -- NEVER THINKING OF THIS AS A LAUNCH FOR KAYAKS BUT IS THERE A REASON WE COULDN'T MAKE IT BOTH A WALKWAY AND A LAUNCH FOR KAYAKS BECAUSE I JUST NEVER THOUGHT THAT EVEN MADE SENSE BUT NOW IT'S BEEN TALKED 304 01:29:38.272 --> 01:29:54.555 ABOUT SO I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IT. >> SO AS PART OF THE MANAGEMENT PLAN, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY AN FTC ACQUISITION FOR THE PARK AND IT HAS A REQUIREMENT FOR A KAYAK LAUNCH, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THE PIER AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHICH WE DO HAVE. IT COMES DOWN TO THAT ACCESSIBILITY FACTOR IF WE'RE DOING A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT 305 01:29:54.555 --> 01:30:11.439 WE HAVE TO MEET ADA GUIDELINES AND EVEN IF YOU WERE TO KIND OF BUILD IT INTO THE PIER YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALMOST THE SAME LEVEL OF INFRASTRUCTURE SO IN THE SITE PLANS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED TO YOU HERE, IT PUTS IT IN CLOSER PROXIMITY TO THE PARKING, MAKES IT A IT ALL BIT 306 01:30:11.439 --> 01:30:27.921 EASIER FOR USER -- MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR USER A SIMILAR PLAN WE WERE PERMITTED FOR SEVERAL -- PROBABLY AT LEAST TEN YEARS AGO. >> BECAUSE IF NOT YOU WOULD BE CARRYING YOUR KAYAK TO THE VERY END OF THE PIER. >> CORRECT. >> THEN WHAT DO YOU DO AT THE END OF THE PIER? 307 01:30:27.921 --> 01:30:44.205 IS THERE A FLOATING DOCK OUT THERE? >> YES, THERE IS A FLOATING PLATFORM THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OUT THERE. WELL NOT THE ORIGINAL BOUGHT -- >> IT'S NOT GOT RAILS AROUND IT. >> NO, JUST AN OPEN PLATFORM. >> MAYOR FREANEY: I GUESS IT'S BEEN AWHILE SINCE I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE TO THE END BECAUSE I 308 01:30:44.205 --> 01:31:00.855 CERTAINLY DIDN'T GO OUT ILLEGALLY. SO OKAY, ALL RIGHT. SO I GOT THAT. OKAY, NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE DO WE KNOW THE AMOUNT, LEVEL, AND SPEED OF THE CURRENT EROSION? 309 01:31:00.855 --> 01:31:16.304 >> I CAN TURN IT OVER TO CPH TO SEE IF THEY HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT. >> THAT IS SOMETHING I MAY HAVE TO GET BACK TO THE TEAM ON. I'M NOT SURE IF IN DEPTH WAVE ANALYSIS WAS CONDUCTED BUT WE 310 01:31:16.304 --> 01:31:33.154 DID ANALYZE RECENT STORMS WITHIN THIS AREA. AND I BELIEVE FROM THE TOP OF MY HEAD THIS AREA IS SUSCEPTIBLE TO ABOUT 6 TO 9 FEET OF STORM SURGE. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL THE INFORMATION I KNOW OF IN TERMS OF THE WAVE ENERGY WITHIN THIS 311 01:31:33.154 --> 01:31:49.303 AREA. BUT IN TERMS OF SPEED AND WHATNOT THAT IS SOMETHING I MAY HAVE TO LOOK INTO WITH OUR TEAM. >> YEAH, I MEAN, BECAUSE PART OF MY THOUGHT I CAN REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE GOING TO DO A BUNCH OF STUFF ON EDGEWATER DRIVE AND SOME PEOPLE OWN THE PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD AND 312 01:31:49.303 --> 01:32:01.716 THEY COULDN'T -- THEY WOULDN'T GIVE UP SOME OF THEIR RIGHTS, BUT I MEAN HONESTLY I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF EROSION IN THE LAST 30 YEARS THERE SO I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY OF THIS. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT BUT I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY SO I THINK THAT'S 313 01:32:01.716 --> 01:32:20.233 IMPORTANT TO, TO DRILL DOWN ON. SO WHAT'S THE PROS AND CONS OF MANGROVES VERSUS NO MANGROVES? JUST ASKING LAYMAN'S QUESTION. >> SO HAVING NO MANGROVES AT ALL? 314 01:32:20.233 --> 01:32:37.084 YOU'RE GOING TO SEE EVENTUAL MORE EROSION IF YOU ONLY HAVE RIPRAP THERE. >> MANGROVES PROTECT THE RIPRAP. >> YEAH. >> SO THEY ARE PROBABLY LIKE A VERY KEY COMPONENT. >> MM-HMM; YES. >> OKAY. 315 01:32:37.084 --> 01:32:53.167 >> BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'VE ALL SEEN IT. WE ALL KNOW IT OVER THE YEARS, YOU KNOW, THE MANGROVES GROW, PEOPLE GET UPSET, YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO CUT DOWN SO MUCH PER WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE LAW SAYS, 316 01:32:53.167 --> 01:33:08.783 BUT THEY GET OUT OF CONTROL, THEY'RE NOT KEPT UP, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEN YOU CAN'T GET THEM DOWN AND PEOPLE ARE UPSET. SO I MEAN IT'S A THING. AND I THINK THAT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, AS WE GO DOWN THAT ROAD, WHICH YOU KNOW MAKES SENSE, IS THAT WE GOT TO KEEP 317 01:33:08.783 --> 01:33:26.834 THEM UP OR IT JUST, EQUALS UPSETNESS, SO. >> I RECENTLY DID A PROJECT DOWN SOUTH, AND IT WAS SIMILAR, THEY WANTED TO PUT MANGROVES UP, AND THEY, THEY ACTUALLY YEARLY TRIM 318 01:33:26.834 --> 01:33:43.717 THEM FOR I THINK IT'S A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS, AND YOU TELL THEM EXACTLY THE HEIGHT THAT YOU WANT IT EVERY YEAR, AND THEY COME IN AND THEY CUT IT DIRECTLY DOWN. YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT FOR I THINK THE, I THINK IT'S A FIVE-YEAR PERMIT AND YOU PAY A 319 01:33:43.717 --> 01:34:01.234 SMALL FEE AND THEY DO, THEY DO A PROFESSIONAL MANGROVE TRIMMER COMES AND IN KEEPS THEM AT THAT HEIGHT FOR YOU. SO IT WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS DONE YOU KNOW FROM, YOU KNOW, THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT AND KEEP IT UP EVERY YEAR. KIND OF A THING. 320 01:34:01.234 --> 01:34:16.383 >> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE WE KEEP MANGROVES CUT DOWN. >> I BELIEVE WE HAVE MANGROVE CONTRACTS. >> WE HAVE THEM AT THE GOLF COURSE. >> AT THE GOLF COURSE? >> MM-HMM. >> AND WE'RE DISCIPLINED AND WE'RE ON IT AND WE ARE PROUD OF OURSELVES FOR STAYING ON IT AND WE HAVEN'T LET THEM GROW OUT AND 321 01:34:16.383 --> 01:34:33.934 PEOPLE ARE LIKE WHAT THE HECK? TRYING TO ASK BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. >> RIGHT. >>> AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A PERMIT AND A PROFESSIONAL MANGROVE TRIMMER AND A YOU ARE KEEP UP ON IT EVERY FIVE YEARS,. >> MAYOR FREANEY: AND AGAIN MY, JUST BEING FAIR, I THINK THE KEY 322 01:34:33.934 --> 01:34:50.818 IS DISCIPLINE, YOU KNOW, THE KEY IS HAVING A PROCESS WHERE IT IS AUTOMATIC AND BUILT INTO THE SYSTEM AND BECAUSE ONCE THEY GROW OUT OF CONTROL, IT TAKES FOREVER TO GET THEM DOWN BECAUSE YOU CAN CUT THEM SO FAR EACH TIME. >> YOU ARE CORRECT. >> MAYOR FREANEY: TONY. 323 01:34:50.818 --> 01:35:09.670 >> MORNING AGAIN. TONY MULLKY PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR. >> YOU'RE SPOT ON. IT NEEDS TO BE MAIN TAPED BECAUSE IF THEY GET BEYOND A CERTAIN LEVEL THAT TRIGGERS 324 01:35:09.670 --> 01:35:25.252 CERTAIN PERMITTING. IT'S KEY ON THAT AND WE HAVE THAT WRITTEN INTO OUR BUDGET CURRENTLY ON THAT. THE OTHER ASPECT IF WE DIDN'T PLANT ON RIPRAP OUT THERE WE WOULD STILL GET MANGROVES, WE WOULD GET VOLUNTEER MANGROVES EVENTUALLY. >> IT'S TRUE. 325 01:35:25.252 --> 01:35:42.202 >> SO YOU KNOW THERE'S A JOKE THEY'LL THROW OUT IF YOU REALLY DON'T LIKE YOUR NEIGHBOR THROW A MANGROVE IN THEIR YARD. >> THAT GREAT. >> BUT THEY ARE VERY BENEFICIAL BOTH FOR FLORIDAA AND FAUNA. >> GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU, TONY, APPRECIATE IT. I FEEL BETTER. WHAT SPACE -- HOW MANY SPACES OF 326 01:35:42.202 --> 01:36:00.287 PARKING ARE OUT THERE NOW? >> I DON'T HAVE A COUNT EXACTLY BUT I WOULD GET THAT TO YOU. >> MAYOR FREANEY: I WAS JUST GOING TO -- IS THERE ANY CONCERN THAT KAYAK LAUNCHING WILL OVERTAKE. >> SO MAYOR, CLARIFICATION THERE IS PARKING ON THE EAST AND THE WEST SIDE SO YOU JUST WANT THE WEST SIDE OR BOTH? 327 01:36:00.287 --> 01:36:16.237 WEST SIDE? OKAY. >> ISN'T THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT EXTRAVAGANT PARKING THERE SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DEMAND OF KAYAKING, HOW POPULAR THAT WILL GET BECAUSE YOU KNOW DUNEDIN. PARKING IS ALWAYS A PROBLEM. 328 01:36:16.237 --> 01:36:32.052 OKAY. SO OTHER THAN GRANTS, I GUESS I'LL ASK THIS TO THE CITY MANAGER, WHERE WILL WE GET THIS KIND OF MONEY IS IN. >> GRANTS. [LAUGHTER] >> YEAH. >> NO, YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THAT YOU KNOW THE POINT OF THE 329 01:36:32.052 --> 01:36:48.535 PRESENTATION TODAY IS TO SOLICIT YOUR COMMENTS, YOUR QUESTIONS, ANSWER THOSE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS, GET THIS TO A POINT WHERE IT'S SHOVEL READY, AND THEN APPLY FOR GRANTS. AND I THINK THAT THIS PROJECT IS CERTAINLY A GRANT RICH TYPE OF 330 01:36:48.535 --> 01:37:04.985 PROJECT IF YOU WILL. THERE IS A LOT OF GRANT FUNDING OUT THERE. SETTING ASIDE A MATCH WHICH I DON'T THINK IS ENOUGH OF A MATCH, AS NATALIE HAD SAID ALREADY BUT NOT WELLING TO GO BEYOND THAT -- WILLING TO GO BEYOND THAT MATCH AT THIS POINT UNTIL WE FIND OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN NOVEMBER. I THINK WE NEED GET THIS PROJECT 331 01:37:04.985 --> 01:37:20.534 AS FAR ALONG AS WE CAN AND THEN SEE WHAT GRANT FUNDING IS GOING TO PERMIT US TO FUND. >> AND ANY OF OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS THAT COULD HELP THIS PROJECT OR NOT REALLY? DOESN'T FIT. >> STORMWATER, YEAH, APPARENTLY THAT IS A STORMWATER OUTFALL THERE. 332 01:37:20.534 --> 01:37:37.151 AND IF ANYTHING IT WOULD BE THAT BUT THEN TOO WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT THE CURRENT YOU KNOW CONDITION OF THE STORMWATER ENTERPRISE FUND IS. YOU KNOW AND. >> YEAH I KNOW, I GET IT BUT I'M THINKING RIGHT NOW JUST LOOKED AT THE PENNY LIST FOR THE NEW ONE. >> RIGHT. >>> WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE FACING FOR PROPERTY TAX, AND JUST BEEN 333 01:37:37.151 --> 01:37:52.366 TRYING TO BE CREATIVE. >> YOU KNOW, I DO THINK, MAYOR, IF I MAY. >> MM-HMM. >> THAT YOUR QUESTION REGARDING THE URGENCY OF THE PROJECT IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ANSWER AS FAR AS STARTING WITH THE PHASE 1 THE REVETMENT AND THEN MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE. 334 01:37:52.366 --> 01:38:09.850 SO, SO TODAY IT REALLY IS ABOUT THE CONCEP. >> YEAH, I MEAN, AGAIN, I THINK THAT IS THE KEY, HOW FAST DO WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. I LOVE THE PROJECT. I MEAN I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE PROJECT. I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE PLACES AROUND FLORIDA BECAUSE OF TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING AND I'M SURE COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN HAS 335 01:38:09.850 --> 01:38:25.899 TOO, THEY'RE GREAT AND THEY'RE GREAT AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE WOW, THIS IS VERY PROACTIVE, SO TO OUR ENVIRONMENT. SO. MY LAST QUESTION IS JUST FOR MY INFORMATION. YOU GUYS HAVE MADE THE COMMENT THAT IF WE DO THIS IT JUST KEEPS 336 01:38:25.899 --> 01:38:40.647 GETTING STRONGER. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION, BUT THEN I ALSO HEARD IT'S GOT A LIFE OF 50 YEARS. SO IF IT JUST KEEPS GETTING STRONGER, WHY DOESN'T IT LAST FOREVER. THAT'S MY QUESTION. >> JUST TO CLARIFY, SO IT JUST, IT DEPENDS ON THE COMP PONENTS 337 01:38:40.647 --> 01:38:57.131 IN WHICH THE CITY IS READY TO IMPLEMENT. SO WITH GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE, AS NATALIE AND GABRIELA MENTIONED THE SEAWALL, THERE IS A DESIGN, DESIGN LIFE EXPECTANCY FOR IT. SAME THING WITH THIS RIPRAP THAT WE WOULD BE PROPOSING: THEY ARE 338 01:38:57.131 --> 01:39:13.914 EXPECTED TO LAST I WOULD SAY, I WOULD SAY WITHIN THE 50 TO 100 YEAR RANGE. AGAIN IT DEPENDS ON THE MAINTENANCE THAT IS DONE TO IT. BUT IN, ON TOP OF THE GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE IF WE WERE TO IMPLEMENT THE GREEN LIVING SHORELINE IMPROVEMENTS, THAT 339 01:39:13.914 --> 01:39:31.931 ASPECT IS WHAT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW STRONGER. SO WITH THAT STRENGTH IT CAUSES LESS DAMAGE, LESS EROSION TO THE GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD ALREADY BE, ALREADY BE THERE. SO IT EXTENDS THE LIFE EXPECTANCY FOR THE RIPRAP THAT WE WOULD BE PROPOSING. 340 01:39:31.931 --> 01:39:48.682 I DON'T KNOW GABRIELA IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD IN TERMS OF JUST LIKE THE OYSTER DOMES AND LIFE EXPECTANCY FOR THAT OR IF THAT'S JUST KIND OF JUST ALSO SOMETHING THAT JUST GETS STRONGER WITH TIME. >> SO BASICALLY IT'S HOW THE WAVES ARE HITTING, YOU KNOW, THE MANGROVES FIRST. HOW THE WAVES ARE HITTING THE 341 01:39:48.682 --> 01:40:05.666 OYSTER DOMES FIRST. ESPECIALLY IN STORMS: I THINK THE BIGGEST MAINTENANCE ITEM WOULD BE STORMS. BECAUSE OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY TAKING CARE OF ITSELF. BUT I WOULD SAY THE OYSTERS WOULD BE THE FIRST LINE OF 342 01:40:05.666 --> 01:40:21.215 DEFENSE FOR WAVE ACTION, AND THEN THE MANGROVES WOULD BE THE SECOND LINE OF DEFENSE FOR WAVE ACTION, AND THEN THE RIPRAP WOULD BE THE THIRD LINE OF DEFENSE. SO IT REALLY IS A THREE, IT REALLY WOULD -- HELP EXTEND IT A LOT LONGER. 343 01:40:21.215 --> 01:40:37.497 SO WHILE WE DON'T HAVE THE YEARS, BUT WE HAVE YOU KNOW THE STUDIES THAT SHOW THAT IT REALLY DOES LAST -- WE COULD PROBABLY LOOK INTO HOW MUCH LONGER JUST TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME NUMBERS FOR YOU. >> OKAY. 344 01:40:37.497 --> 01:40:54.414 YOU KNOW, ONE OTHER COMMENT. I KEEP HAVING QUESTIONS POP IN MY HEAD. LIKE HURRICANE HELENE, LIKE WOULD WE EXPECT STORMS LIKE THAT TO CAUSE THE WORST KIND OF DAMAGE OF EROSION ALONG THERE? AND DO WE KNOW LIKE DID IT ERODE 345 01:40:54.414 --> 01:41:10.130 ANYTHING OR? >>> I MEAN I WOULD SAY FROM ALL THE PROJECTS THAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON, YEAH, THE STORMS WITH THE NINE-FOOT, YOU KNOW, IT DOES, IT DOESN'T COMPLETELY BREAK UP EVERYTHING, BUT IT HELPS. IT HELPS TREMENDOUSLY. HAVING THE FIRST TWO LINES OF 346 01:41:10.130 --> 01:41:26.380 DEFENSE WHICH ARE OYSTERS AND MANGROVES. BY THE TIME IT GETS TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE WAVES HAVE DISSIPATED. NOW, SEA LEVEL WHEN IT DOES RISE UP, YOU KNOW, THERE IS GOING TO GO SOME TYPE OF E-- TO BE SOME TYPE OF EROSION BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AS QUICKLY. 347 01:41:26.380 --> 01:41:42.896 I THINK THAT'S, WE'RE SLOWING IT DOWN. TREMENDOUSLY. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY. >> WITH THE LIVING SHORELINE. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY. AGAIN I GUESS THAT AMOUNT LEVEL AND SPEED OF EROSION PROBABLY IS KEY. OKAY I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SO DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL? COMMISSIONER DUGARD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 348 01:41:42.896 --> 01:41:59.947 I WANT TO BE SURE WHAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO THE SOUND THROUGH THE VARIOUS OUTLETS HERE. IS THIS WASTEWATER OR ARE WE DEALING WITH STORMWATER OUTLETS? WHICH IS THE? >> BOTH. >> IT'S BOTH. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING 349 01:41:59.947 --> 01:42:16.430 RIGHT THERE. ALL RIGHT. I JUST WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE ENDED UP WITH A PARK HERE AND I THINK I NOW KNOW. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR FREANEY: SURE, COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN. >> THIS WOULD BE FOR THOSE TWO ON THE CALL. I WAS RECENTLY JUST A COUPLE YEARS AGO I WAS INVOLVED IN A 350 01:42:16.430 --> 01:42:33.313 PRETTY EXTENSE FN RIPRAP PROJECT IN GEORGIA. AND I REMEMBER THERE WAS A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN COST. WE ENDED UP USING QUARTS. ANY IDEA WHAT TYPE OF STONE WE WOULD USE ON THIS RIPRAP 351 01:42:33.313 --> 01:42:46.059 PROJECT. >> AMANDA? >> I BELIEVE TYPICALLY REA WAS LIMESTONE. I KNOW THAT RIPRAP CAN VARY IN DIFFERENT, OF DIFFERENT SIZES AND OBVIOUSLY WITH THOSE SIZES COMES CONSTRUCTION COSTS, BUT ARMORSTONE AND LIMESTONE I THINK 352 01:42:46.059 --> 01:43:04.144 ARE MOST COMMONLY USED ONES. THAT IS WITHIN THE RANGE OF MEDIUM TO LARGE SIZE RIPRAP WHICH IS MOST LIKELY WHAT WILL BE PROPOSED IN THIS AREA. WITH SMALL RIPRAP IT'S LIKELY TO BE CARRIED WITH THE WAVE ACTION VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPEN AT THE ROCK SEAWALL AT 353 01:43:04.144 --> 01:43:20.827 THE MOMENT. WE DEFINITELY WANT THOSE LARGER BUT NOT TOO LARGE EITHER BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WITH CONSTRUCTION COSTS THAT WILL COME BACK ASTRONOMICALLY HIGH BUT I WOULD SAY ARMORSTONE, LIMESTONE IS 354 01:43:20.827 --> 01:43:36.743 TYPICALLY WHAT WE PROPOSE HERE. >> THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR FREANEY: I THINK WE HAVE OUR FIRST VOLUNTEER TOO SINCE YOU ARE SO KNOWLEDGEABLE. THIS IS GREAT. GETTING MARK DOWN AS FIRST VOLUNTEER. >> YOU'VE SEEN MY DRIVE THAT EQUIPMENT. >> MAYOR FREANEY: VICE MAYOR. >> YEAH, JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION, JUST WHAT'S INVOLVED 355 01:43:36.743 --> 01:43:54.561 IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS FOR THIS BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT I BELIEVE NOT ALL PERMITTING PROCESSES ARE CREATED EQUAL, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS CARRIES THE SAME SORT OF BURDEN 356 01:43:54.561 --> 01:44:11.144 AS WOULD JUST PURE REPLACEMENT. REALLY NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS. >> I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW IF I UNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION. YOU WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE PERMITTING COST FOR WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY TRYING TO PERMIT 357 01:44:11.144 --> 01:44:27.461 AND -- OPPOSED TO JUST THE REPLACEMENT OF THE PIER? >> NO, I'M SORRY. PROBABLY CONVOLUTED THAT. >> SORRY. >> I'M, I'M JUST INTERESTED IN WHAT THE PROCESS IS BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT YOUR TIMELINE, YOU KNOW, THE LONGEST PART OF THAT 358 01:44:27.461 --> 01:44:44.377 PROCESS IS THE PERMITTING PIECE. >> YES. >> SO WHAT'S -- >> YEAH. SO WHAT, HOW CAN CAN EXPLAIN IT IS WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF STARTED THE PERMITTING PROCESS. SO ME AS THE SCIENTIST GOING OUT AND LOOKING AT THE EXISTING 359 01:44:44.377 --> 01:45:00.727 CONDITIONS, DOING THE WETLAND DELINEATION, DOING THE SEAGRASS SURVEY, NOW I HAVE ALL MY DATA FROM EXISTING CONDITIONS AND NOW WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH THE ARMY CORPS. WE HAVE A PRE-APP MEETING 360 01:45:00.727 --> 01:45:17.510 SCHEDULED WITH FDEP, SO THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE US A LOT MORE GUIDANCE OF HOW BIG THE OYSTER DOMES NEED TO BE, AND THE SPACING AND JUST LITTLE BITS AND PIECES OF YOU KNOW THE INDIVIDUALIZED PROJECT BECAUSE EVERY PROJECT'S DIFFERENT THEY 361 01:45:17.510 --> 01:45:32.859 LOOK AT YOU KNOW PROBABLY THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT THE OUTLETS FOR STORMWATER AND WASTEWATER YOU KNOW ALL OF THAT WILL COME INTO PLAY. SO WE HAVE THOSE MEETINGS SCHEDULED. ONCE THOSE MEETINGS ARE SCHEDULED, AND THEY GIVE US A ROAD MAP PER SE, THEN WE CAN 362 01:45:32.859 --> 01:45:48.541 START TO GET OUR DESIGN, WE CAN START NIT-PICKING OUR DESIGN TO ABIDE BY THEIR REGULATIONS AND WHAT THEY SEE FIT. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT LONGER IS THERE IS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH. THERE IS A LOT OF REPORT 363 01:45:48.541 --> 01:46:05.892 WRITING, THERE IS A LOT OF MEETINGS AND JUST TRYING TO HONE IN ON EXACTLY WHAT THE AGENCIES ARE GOING TO REQUIRE FOR THIS TYPE OF PROJECT. >> NO, THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT. 364 01:46:05.892 --> 01:46:19.806 >> MM-HMM. >> I THINK COMMISSIONER GOW HAD SOME. >> THANK YOU. JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THE VICE MAYOR'S COMMENTS, WHAT, I'M HAVING TROUBLE KIND OF PIECEMEALING THE TIMELINE VERSUS 365 01:46:19.806 --> 01:46:35.455 FUNDING VERSUS PERMITTING ALL TOGETHER. IS THERE A, A TIMELINE OR -- DOES A PERMITTING LAST FOREVER? ONCE WE GET PERMITTING? OR IS IT FOR SPECIFIC PERIOD OF TIME? 366 01:46:35.455 --> 01:46:54.608 >> IT'S USUALLY ABOUT SIX MONTHS. >> [LAUGHTER] >> IT CAN BE LONGER, IT CAN BE UP TO A YEAR. BUT USUALLY I WOULD SAY IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE PERMIT SCHEDULE AND ALSO THE 367 01:46:54.608 --> 01:47:09.622 CONSTRUCTION, YES. >> SO YEAH PRETTY MUCH THE NEXT STEP FROM I GUESS THIS MEETING AND ONWARD IS WE OBVIOUSLY NEED SOME GUIDANCE AS TO WHICH PHASES WE PROCEED WITH DESIGN AND PERMITTING. SO ESSENTIALLY OUR DESIGN TEAM WILL PUT TOGETHER A 60% PACKAGE 368 01:47:09.622 --> 01:47:26.272 FOR DESIGN WHICH IS A LOT MORE DETAILED THAN WHAT WE PROPOSED TODAY, AND WHICH WE WILL PROVIDE TO THOSE AGENCIES THAT HAVE JURISDICTION WITHIN THIS AREA. AS GABRIELLA MENTIONED IT'S ARMY CORPS, FDEP AND I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE TO PERMIT WITH PINELLAS 369 01:47:26.272 --> 01:47:41.454 COUNTY WHICH THEY WILL LIKELY ASK FOR THOSE PERMITS IN HAND, BUT FROM, FROM THAT POINT, WE DO THAT COORDINATION THAT GABRIELA HAS MENTIONED AND YES THE TIMELINE FOR PERMITTING CAN BE YOU KNOW UPWARDS OF A YEAR IN THIS CASE I WOULDN'T THINK SO IT 370 01:47:41.454 --> 01:47:56.903 JUST ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY WOULD REQUIRE FROM US. I GUESS THE GRAY AREA HERE IS THE FUNDING I KNOW THAT THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S OF PRIORITY RIGHT HERE BECAUSE ONCE WE HAVE THOSE PERMITS IN HAND WHICH WITH 371 01:47:56.903 --> 01:48:13.453 WHICHEVER PHASE ACTUALLY WE PERMIT WITH, THOSE PERMIT -- APPROVED PERMITS WON'T LAST FOREVER. SO I WOULD SAY UPWARDS OF FIVE YEARS I THINK IS THEIR EXPIRATION. >> I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION I GUESS. >> NO, IT'S OKAY. 372 01:48:13.453 --> 01:48:29.402 IT'S KIND OF LIKE PROVIDING A TIMELINE FROM HERE ON OUT AND JUST HIGHLIGHTING THE URGENCY OF THE GUIDANCE WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH SUBMITTING THESE PERMITS AND GETTING THEM IN HAND BUT 373 01:48:29.402 --> 01:48:45.852 THEY ONLY LAST FOR SO LONG. WE WOULD HAVE TO REAPPLY IF THESE PROJECTS AREN'T EXPECTED TO GET CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THEIR EXBRGZ TIMELINE. >> YOU CAN -- EXPIRATION TIMELINE. >> YOU CAN APPLY FOR AN EXTENSION, BUT I THINK IT'S USUALLY FIVE YEARS AND YOU CAN 374 01:48:45.852 --> 01:49:02.735 ADD AN EXTENSION ON THERE. SO IT DOES, IT CAN LAST LONGER IF YOU, YOU KNOW, ASK FOR LONGER. >> THANK YOU, AND I BELIEVE AT THE BEGINNING -- >> MAYOR FREANEY: NO MORE QUESTIONS ON PERMITTING FROM ANYONE. 375 01:49:02.735 --> 01:49:19.452 [LAUGHTER] >> MOVING ON. SEAGRASS. I BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED THE AMOUNT OF SEAGRASS WAS GOOD SO WE DON'T NEED TO ADD EXTRA SEAGRASS INTATHIS PROJECT? >> I WAS VERY SURPRISED WITH HOW 376 01:49:19.452 --> 01:49:34.000 MUCH SEAGRASS WAS OUT THERE. THERE WAS SHOAL GRASS, LOTS OF SHOAL GRASS, AND PLOTS OF -- LOTS OF MANATEE GRASS SO I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED WHEN I DID THE SURVEY AND THE CURRENT DESIGN IS AVOIDING THE SEAGRASS PERFECTLY WITH HOW IT IS 377 01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:50.350 DESIGNED AND THE SEAGRASS IS ACTUALLY WATERWARD, AND IT'S HUGE. IT'S A HUGE CONTINUOUS BED OF SEAGRASS OUT THERE. SO THE RESOURCES ARE ALREADY THERE FOR SEAGRASS I WOULD SAY AND THEN THE OYSTER DOMES JUST 378 01:49:50.350 --> 01:50:16.575 KIND OF FILL IN THE BARE BOTTO. >> KWR0E79 TO -- I DON'T WANT TO ADD TO THE INVOICE. >> THAT'S A QUICK LOOKUP FOR SURE. 379 01:50:16.575 --> 01:50:32.726 >> NO, I THINK STAFF CAN LOOK INTO THAT. [LAUGHTER] >> I'M PROUD DUNEDIN HAS THIS OFF THE COAST HEY WE'RE LOOKING 380 01:50:32.726 --> 01:50:47.173 FOR SEAGRASS AND WE HAVE A KAYAK LAUNCH AND IN 15 YEARS, EXTENSIVE DAMAGE HAS BEEN DONE TO THOSE SEAGRASSES. AGAIN RESILIENCY, SUSTAINABILITY 381 01:50:47.173 --> 01:51:04.290 HAS TO BE THE PRIMARY FOCUS HERE, AND THE VIEW OF THE GULF TO ME IS SECONDARY. THE KAYAK LAUNCH IS SECONDARY. JUST SUPPORTING AND MAINTAINING THE COASTLINE IS FOR ME THE MOST IMPORTANT. 382 01:51:04.290 --> 01:51:21.174 I WOULD ALSO THINGS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR MAYBE THIS IS UNDER COMMENTS, NATALIE, I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU WANT IT, BUT -- >> WE CAN DO COMMENTS SEPARATE. 383 01:51:21.174 --> 01:51:36.723 THAT IS ALL THAT I HAD, MAYOR. THANK YOU. >> OKAY, SO WE CAN GIVE OUR FINAL COMMENTS, BUT CITY MANAGER. I MEAN, YOU WANTED OUR BASIC THOUGHTS HERE? >> YEAH, YOUR BASIC THOUGHTS AND THERE IS A LOT OF DISCUSSION 384 01:51:36.723 --> 01:51:54.040 HERE ON FUNDING AND IT'S VERY -- OBVIOUSLY IT'S A VERY APPROPRIATE DISCUSSION. AND I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS STEP BY STEP. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S CRUCIAL OBVIOUSLY THAT THE WE HAVE CITY COMMISSION BUY IN TO THE CONCEPTS HERE AND I THINK NOT EVEN NECESSARILY THE PHASES BUT LET US CONTINUE WITH THE 385 01:51:54.040 --> 01:52:07.086 PERMITTING. GET IT SHOVEL READY AND THEN WE WILL ADVISE YOU OF WHATEVER FUNDING IS AVAILABLE AS FAR AS GRANT FUNDING GOES MOVING FORWARD. SO I THINK IF WE JUST HAVE TO WORK VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER WITH STAFF AND THE COMMISSION TO LOOK 386 01:52:07.086 --> 01:52:25.071 AT ALL OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US. MOVING FORWARD. >> OH, GOOD POINT. WE CAN TAKE CITIZEN INPUT. YEAH. SURE. >> I DON'T THINK WE'RE QUITE THERE YET, BUT. >> MAYOR FREANEY: YEAH, WE'RE NOT -- LET'S SEE WHERE ARE WE. QUESTIONS FROM STAFF. THAT'S NEXT, BUT YEAH. OKAY. 387 01:52:25.071 --> 01:52:39.986 GOOD. OKAY. SO WE WILL OPEN IT NOW TO PUBLIC INPUT. ANYONE WISHING TO COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE? STEP FORWARD. THREE MINUTES, NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> HI, NAN BENNETT, 1990 SADDLE HILL ROAD NORTH, DUNEDIN, FLORIDA, AND THIS IS A PROJECT 388 01:52:39.986 --> 01:52:57.370 THAT I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT. AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN IBMONITORING FROM THE BEGINNING. AND GREAT JOB ON THE PRESENTATION. AND ALL THE DETAILS. AND SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS I HAVE MAY BE ARE ADDRESSED BUT JUST WEREN'T IN 389 01:52:57.370 --> 01:53:12.619 THE WRITTEN OR THE PRESENTED MATERIAL. I NOTICED THAT THE DESIGN INVOLVED A MUCH MORE UNIFORM ROUNDED STYLE OF RIPRAP AS OPPOSED TO THE OLD STYLE WHICH WAS MORE LIKE SLABS, WASTE, CONCRETE THAT WAS JUST SORT OF 390 01:53:12.619 --> 01:53:29.669 TOSSED DOWN THERE TO STABILIZE THE SHORES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DESIGNED THE PROJECT AND PUT IT OUT TO BID THAT THAT'S FULLY SPECIFIED AND THAT THE COST REFLECTS THAT WE'RE GETTING A MORE UNIFORM ROUNDED, A BETTER 391 01:53:29.669 --> 01:53:45.718 APPEARING PROJECT FOR THE AT THESSICS OF IT. -- THE AESTHETICS OF IT AND THEN WITH THE PAVEMENT FOR THE ADA, THAT TYPICALLY TRIGGERS HAVING TO DO SOME AMOUNT OF STORMWATER TREATMENT FOR INCREASING THE 392 01:53:45.718 --> 01:53:59.832 IMPERVIOUS AREA. I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE DESIGN ANYWHERE WHERE THAT STORMWATER TREATMENT WOULD GO, AND JUST AS A CLARIFICATION, EVERYTHING YOU ARE SEEING WITHIN THE PARK IS STORMWATER OUTFALLS. 393 01:53:59.832 --> 01:54:15.481 THERE IS WASTEWATER OUTFALLS TO THE SOUTH, THERE ARE TWO THAT EXTEND 17 FEET. IT'S NOT PLAYING INTO THIS DESIGN. THEY'RE WELL SOUTH OF EVERYTHING WE'VE SEEN ON THIS. I THINK THEY MIGHT BE OUTSIDE OF 394 01:54:15.481 --> 01:54:35.068 THE PARK IN THE ROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY. AND FINALLY WITH THIS PROJECT AND WITH ANY PROJECT WE'VE HEARD AND TALKED ABOUT NOT JUST THE CAPITAL COST BUT THAT THERE WILL BE ONGOING OPERATIONS AND 395 01:54:35.068 --> 01:54:50.516 MAINTENANCE COST. THERE WILL BE MONITORING OF THE PLANT LIFE AND HOW IT'S SURVIVING, POSSIBLY REPLANTINGS. I THINK TO TO HAVE AN HONEST ESTIMATE OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE IN OUR ONGOING YEAR-TO-YEAR BUDGET TO MAINTAIN THIS WE NEED TO HAVE THAT IN THE DESIGN AS WELL SO WE CAN PLAN 396 01:54:50.516 --> 01:55:07.333 FOR THAT AS THE ONGOING BUDGET GOES ON. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR FREANEY: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? 397 01:55:07.333 --> 01:55:23.883 OKAY SEEING NONE. I DON'T THINKTHERE WAS A QUESTION. JUST THINGS TO LOOK INTO. >> YEAH, I WROTE DOWN THOSE COMMENTS AND I WILL DEFINITELY INCORPORATE THEM. AND AGAIN WHAT WE'RE SHOWING IS NOT COMPLETE DESIGNS. I THINK IT WAS REALLY MORE 398 01:55:23.883 --> 01:55:39.665 PRELIMINARY SO A LOT OF THESE DETAILS AND COMPONENTS HAVEN'T BEEN INCLUDED YET BUT WE WANT TO GIVE DIRECTION, GET GENERAL FEEDBACK WE WERE GOING IF THE RIGHT DIRECTION BEFORE WE ADD IN ALL OF THOSE OTHER ADDITIONAL DETAILS, BUT THEY WILL BE ADDRESSED. >> MAYOR FREANEY: ALL RIGHT, GREAT, THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC INPUT. 399 01:55:39.665 --> 01:55:58.117 WE'RE GOING TO GO TO COMMISSION COMMENTS. AND I WILL START WITH VICE MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I, JUST TO KIND OF SUM THIS ALL, I THINK WE ASK FOR A FEW THINGS HERE. ONE, I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF 400 01:55:58.117 --> 01:56:14.032 THE CONCEPT. THE PROCESS TO ME IS TECHNICALLY FASCINATING AND IT'S AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY IN TERMS OF WHERE WE'RE AT ECOLOGICALLY. SO I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF IT. 401 01:56:14.032 --> 01:56:30.015 SECOND, I THINK WE WERE ASKED ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE APPROACH. YOU KNOW, LOOKING FROM A COST CONSIDERATION, AND THE PHASING PART OF IT, I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT I WOULD JUST LOVE TO GET THIS ALL DONE AND DO IT IN ONE FELL SWOOP. 402 01:56:30.015 --> 01:56:46.699 I MEAN, THE COST ANALYSIS BEING THE COST ANALYSIS IS, IS LESS THAN THE OTHER OPTIONS AND APPEARS TO PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE GRANT OPPORTUNITY. BUT WITH THAT SAID WE ARE GOING INTO A PERIOD HERE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME 403 01:56:46.699 --> 01:57:01.614 DECISION THAT WILL BE IMPACTING THIS AND OTHER PROJECTS AS WE GET INTO THE DISCUSSION OF THE PROPERTY TAX REFERENDUM COMING UP IN NOVEMBER. 404 01:57:01.614 --> 01:57:18.664 THE THIRD THINK YOU ASKED WAS ABOUT OYSTER DOME SPONSORSHIPS. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA AND I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THAT. AND I GUESS MY FINAL COMMENT HERE IS THAT FOR MY COLLEAGUES OR ANYBODY WHO'S OUT THERE, I HAVE A SPIEL THAT I DO ON THE 405 01:57:18.664 --> 01:57:34.180 CALADESI FERRY REGARDING MANGROVES, AND/OR AS THE INDIAN TRIBE CALLED THEM WALKING TREES. SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HEARING THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE IT. THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER] >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY, FINAL COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN. >> NO, I THINK I'M ANXIOUS TO 406 01:57:34.180 --> 01:57:51.564 HEAR ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF EROSION. THAT WAS A GREAT QUESTION. HOW FAST, YOU KNOW, TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOR MANY YEARS. IF IT COMES UP THAT IT REALLY IS STARTING TO ERODE, I WOULD FULLY BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE FIRST PHASE 407 01:57:51.564 --> 01:58:10.048 WHETHER IT BE TO USE WHAT'S THERE REDIRECT IT, RECONFIGURE IT OR IF WE HAD TO GO TO RIPRAP. AND AGAIN I THINK BY THE WAY I'M ANSWERING THAT IS BASED ON WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING IN NOVEMBER. SO I MEAN WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS WITH THE TAXPAYERS 408 01:58:10.048 --> 01:58:23.562 MONEY. BUT YEAH WE NEED TO PROTECT WHAT WE HAVE THERE. IT WAS A GOOD PRESENTATION. YOU DID A NICE JOB, AND FIRST PHASE I WOULD BE SUPPORTING AS LONG AS WE CAN BACK IT UP. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY, FINAL COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER GOW. 409 01:58:23.562 --> 01:58:41.013 >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. AS FAR AS THE TIMELINE, PHASING OR NOT PHASING, I WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH ALL IN BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE THE CHEAPER BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE 410 01:58:41.013 --> 01:59:00.032 TO DO THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THE UNKNOWNS. SO I WILL PUT THAT BACK TO STAFF AND GO YOU GUYS GUIDE US JUST MAKE SURE IT'S CHEAP AS POSSIBLE. BUT QUALITY FIRST. 411 01:59:00.032 --> 01:59:19.051 AS FAR AS INPUT, FUNDRAISING IDEAS. I THINK THE MORE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT YOU GET STRONGER BUY IN AS WELL AS WE CAN GET IT FOR CHEAPER. CERTAINLY PUT ME DOWN FOR SPONSORING ONE OF THE OYSTER BALLS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM, WHICHEVER ONE WE'RE CHOOSING, I'LL SPONSOR ONE. 412 01:59:19.051 --> 01:59:36.002 DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT COST IS. I'M SORRY. [LAUGHTER] >> TOO LATE, YOU DIDN'T ASK THAT QUESTION. [LAUGHTER] YEAH YOU'RE ON THE RECORD. >> AND, AND I WON'T PHRASE THIS -- I'LL PHRASE THIS AS A COMMENT BUT IT'S KIND OF A QUESTION. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THE 413 01:59:36.002 --> 01:59:52.418 MANGROVES WILL COVER THE RIPRAP. AND IF IT'S COVERING THE RIPRAP, DOES IT NEED TO BE ROUND AND PRETTY? CAN WE USE JUST OLD SLABS OF CONCRETE? >> YEAH, IT'S A QUESTION AND TO LATE FOR THAT. >> [LAUGHTER] 414 01:59:52.418 --> 02:00:08.567 >>> JUST A COMMENT. IT WOULD BE CHEAPER IF WHERE HE COULD. RHETORICAL. >> THAT WAS A COMMENT ON A QUESTION. >> MAYOR FREANEY: IT'S ALL GOOD. 415 02:00:08.567 --> 02:00:25.251 >> DIRECTION. [. >> MAYOR FREANEY: COMMISSIONER DUGARD, FINAL COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR EXPLORING THIS PROSPECT SO WELL, AND NATALIE DID A GREAT JOB AS USUAL. THANK YOU. VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND COMPLETE. AND WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE'RE 416 02:00:25.251 --> 02:00:40.165 DOING. [LAUGHTER] THIS IS, THIS IS -- I WISH THIS WAS AN ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL KIND OF QUESTION. IT'S NOT. WE ARE FACING A SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT IN MY SHORT TENURE IS UNPRECEDENTED AND ALSO I THINK IN THE TENURE OF ALMOST 417 02:00:40.165 --> 02:00:56.949 EVERYBODY UP HERE IS UNPRECEDENTED IN AS MUCH AS WE HAVE TO READ THE ROOM. AND THE ROOM IS VERY CHALLENGING RIGHT NOW IF YOU'LL LET ME SAY SO. SO I CAN SUPPORT THIS IN CONCEPT, BUT I HAVE TO ALSO SAY 418 02:00:56.949 --> 02:01:13.499 THAT THAT CONCEPT BE IT SO APPEALING, IT'S SO APPEALING I WANT TO ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE SOUND FROM AN ECOLOGICAL STANDPOINT. THE ENTIRE SOUND I THINK IS A PARK. AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE TREATING IT LIKE THAT SO THIS WOULD BE A STEP IN THAT DIRECTION. THAT'S HOW STRONG I AM IN 419 02:01:13.499 --> 02:01:31.384 SUPPORT OF THIS. HOWEVER, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF COSTS, OTHER FORMS OF REVENUE, THOSE ARE MY CAVEATS. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HERE, AND I THINK MAKING ANY DECISION 420 02:01:31.384 --> 02:01:46.431 BEFORE NOVEMBER 3 WOULD BE POLLYANNAISH AT BEST SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO SEE THIS BEFORE THEN IN ANY KIND OF ACTIONABLE WAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. 421 02:01:46.431 --> 02:02:02.714 >> MAYOR FREANEY: I HAVE SEEN THE THINGS DONE BECAUSE OF TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL AND THE WORK THEY DO BECAUSE IT IS BEING VERY PROACTIVE ENVIRONMENTALLY WITH HOW WE HANDLE EROSION AND ISSUES LIKE THAT IN THE MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY PROTECTIVE WAY. SO TO SPEAK IF I'M SAYING THAT 422 02:02:02.714 --> 02:02:19.865 GOOD SO I'M 100% THINK THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO GO WHEN WE HAVE THESE KIND OF SITUATIONS WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS FIRST AND FOREMOST. 423 02:02:19.865 --> 02:02:36.515 I DID GET ONE SOLICITED COMMENT ON MY PHONE WHILE WE WERE SITTING HERE AND IT IS DON'T, ALL CAPITALIZED, SCREW UP MY VIEW. SO, SO -- I'M NOT ALLOWED TO SAY WHO. BUT ANYWAY, AGAIN THAT COMES 424 02:02:36.515 --> 02:02:53.799 BACK TO THE DISCIPLINE OF, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE. >> UNDERSTANDABLE THOUGH. BUT AGAIN, FIRST AND FOREMOST, REGARDLESS OF WHAT I THINK ABOUT THIS BEING A GREAT WAY TO GO ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT IS ALL ABOUT PRIORITIES. 425 02:02:53.799 --> 02:03:09.215 AND AMOUNT, LEVEL, AND SPEED OF EROSION IS THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION. TO UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY OR NOT OF WHEN AND WHERE WE HAVE TO DO IT AS WE KIND OF FACE A LOT OF FINANCIAL CHALLENGES WITH OR WITHOUT THE REFERENDUM PASSING 426 02:03:09.215 --> 02:03:26.131 OR FAILING. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED. >> YEAH, IF I MAY JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZE THAT WE'RE VERY CLEAR WHERE WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. IN REGARDS TO THE BOATS THE REGARD TO OVERALL INPUT AND CONCEPT AND DESIGN, YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE CONCEPT AND DESIGN. YOU LIKE THE WORK THAT'S BEEN 427 02:03:26.131 --> 02:03:41.880 DONE. THERE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE URGENCY IS NUMBER 1 WE NEED TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT AND THE ISSUE WITH I THINK WE'RE GETTING A CLEAR PICTURE WE HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF PUBLIC'S CONCERNS REGARDING THE VIEW SHED AND MANGROVE AND THAT'S EALY IN THE -- REALLY IN THE MAINTENANCE 428 02:03:41.880 --> 02:03:57.763 PLAN FOR THE MANGROVES MOVE FORKING FORWARD SO THE OPTIONS FOR PHASED INSTALLATION ARE ALL AT ONCE. ACTUALLY WHAT I'M HEARING IS ALL AT ONCE FOR THE PURPOSES OF SUBMITTING GRANTS THAT WE'D HAVE A MOST LIKELY A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO GET THOSE GRANTS IF IT'S ALL AT ONCE VERSUS A PHASED APPROACH. 429 02:03:57.763 --> 02:04:13.045 BUT WE DO NEED TO BE VERY COGNIZANT OF FUNDING. I'M HEARING FROM YOU NOTHING 430 02:04:13.045 --> 02:04:32.131 BEFORE NOVEMBER 3rd THE REFERENDUM. TURN KEY OR COMMUNITY BASED, I'M HEARING YOU WOULD LIKE THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED ESPECIALLY WITH THE OYSTER HOUSES, BALLS, 431 02:04:32.131 --> 02:04:48.046 THINGS. IT'S SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY WOULD EMBRACE AND WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN AS WELL AND THAT ALSO ENCOMPASSES THE FUNDING FOR THE ADOPT AN OYSTER DOME OR MANGROVE. AND CERTAINLY YOU KNOW, NATALIE RAISES THE FLAG AS FAR AS STAFF TIME. THAT IS LABOR INTENSIVE EFFORT. BUT I THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING 432 02:04:48.046 --> 02:05:03.862 THAT'S CERTAINLY WORTHWHILE THE COMMUNITY WOULD ABSOLUTELY AS I SO WE HAVE OUR CLEAR DIRECTION, WE HAVE QUESTIONS WE WILL ANSWER 433 02:05:03.862 --> 02:05:21.980 FOR YOU ALL UNDER SEPARATE COVER. >> Mayor Freaney: YOU MADE NOTE OF COMMISSIONER GOW'S SPONSORSHIP -- COMMITMENT? I KNOW THOSE COST AROUND 5,000. >> I DID WANT TO CLARIFY, I 434 02:05:21.980 --> 02:05:40.699 MEANT THE FIRST OYSTER. >> Mayor Freaney: I'M NOT SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID, BUT -- >> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK, AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. 435 02:15:55.580 --> 02:16:10.462 >> Mayor Freaney: WE'RE GOING TO REOPEN THE MEETING, THE NEXT ITEM IS 2B WHICH IS OUR PENNY V DISCUSSION. >> I'M HERE WITH JEAN OUR BUDGET MANAGER. 436 02:16:10.462 --> 02:16:27.912 I'M LES TYLER. OUR AGENDA TODAY IS TO TALK ABOUT PENNY IV AND THEN GET INTO PENNY V, WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR DRAFT LONG RANGE PLAN, AND SOME 437 02:16:27.912 --> 02:16:44.296 OF THE ACTUALS COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING, AND THEN GET A PENNY V REVENUE PROJECTION, AND THEN SOME FUNDING CHALLENGES WITH PENNY V. I WANED TO MENTION BEFORE WE GET STARTED. WE HAD ONE DISCREPANCY IN OUR 438 02:16:44.296 --> 02:17:03.615 STAFFING TODAY, PAGE 1, IT MENTIONS STATION 61 FOR HARDENING. THAT SHOULD BE STATION 62 NOT 61. THE SLIDES ARE CORRECT. I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT INCONSISTENCY. MOVING TO THE SLIDES. 439 02:17:03.615 --> 02:17:19.297 FIRST ITEM IS KIND OF SOME BRIEF BACKGROUND ON PENNY FOR PINELLAS. IT'S A 1% TAX, AND IT'S BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 1990, IT'S NOT COLLECTED ON GROCERIES OR MEDICATIONS AND ONLY APPLIES TO 440 02:17:19.297 --> 02:17:36.948 THE FIRST $5,000 OF A SINGLE PURCHASE. APPROXIMATELY 1/3 OF PENNY FOR PINELLAS REVENUES IS PAID BY VISITORS AND TOURISTS EACH YEAR. IT FUNDS CAPITAL PROJECTS, INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT DO NOT RELY ON PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, AND SOME PREVIOUS PENNY 441 02:17:36.948 --> 02:17:54.065 PROJECTS THAT OUR CITY HAS DONE OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS ARE CITY HALL, OUR COMMUNITY CENTER, OUR EOC FACILITY AND FIRE STATION 61. AND MOVING TO OUR 2027 PROPOSED 442 02:17:54.065 --> 02:18:10.014 PENNY FUND THAT WE'D LIKE TO WALK-THROUGH BRIEFLY. I WANT TO POINT OUT SOME OF THE ASSUMPTIONS WE HAVE IN PENNY IV, WE HAVE A REDUCTION OF REVENUE APPROXIMATELY .16 REDUCTION. 443 02:18:10.014 --> 02:18:24.996 IF YOU RECALL BACK IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, THERE WAS A CHANGE. THE ELIMINATION OF TAX ON COMMERCIAL RENTS THAT REDUCED OUR CITY SALES TAX, AND ALSO CITIES AND COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE BY ABOUT 7% IS OUR BEST ESTIMATE. 444 02:18:24.996 --> 02:18:41.946 THAT'S WHAT THAT REDUCTION IS ON GOING, AND WE'RE MAKING THAT ADJUSTMENT IN '27. FROM THAT POINT ON IN '28 THROUGH '30 WE HAVE GROWTH ESTIMATES OF 3%. AND THEN WE HAVE A MODEST 1 HADN'T 5% FOR 2030. 445 02:18:41.946 --> 02:18:59.063 PENNY 5 EXPIRES DECEMBER OF 2029 IS WHEN PENNY IV EXPIRES. ALSO, IN THE ASSUMPTIONS, WE HAVE FUNDING FOR THE AQUATIC COMPLEX. WE HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS IN 446 02:18:59.063 --> 02:19:14.712 DONATIONS FOR THE AQUATIC COMPLEX BUDGETED, WE RECEIVED ABOUT $850,000 SO FAR ON THAT AND WE'RE EXPECTING THE LAST 150,000 TO BE A DONATION IN FISCAL YEAR '29. AND FOR TRANSFERS IN,S WE'VE GOT 447 02:19:14.712 --> 02:19:31.396 EVERY YEAR SINCE 2021 WE HAVE A CONTRIBUTION FOR THE WATER/WASTEWATER FUND FOR $468,000. THAT'S THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO CITY HALL. THAT WILL TAKE PLACE THROUGH OCTOBER OF 2029, AND THEN THOSE WILL STOP. AND OUR FINANCING FOR THE CITY 448 02:19:31.396 --> 02:19:47.612 WILL BE PAID OFF IN OCTOBER OF 2029. AND MOVING TO OUR LONG RANGE PLAN, I WANT TO GO OVER A FEW HIGHLIGHTS, WE ESTIMATED REVENUE AND PROJECTED EXPENSES OUT TO PENNY 4 TIME FRAME, WHICH IS 449 02:19:47.612 --> 02:20:05.930 2030, IT EXPIRES DECEMBER OF 2029 WHICH FALLS IN FISCAL YEAR 2030. A FEW CHANGES IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET IN 2027 THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE CURRENT YEAR '26 YEAR, WE'RE PROPOSING MOVING THE AQUATIC COMPLEX PROJECT TO 450 02:20:05.930 --> 02:20:21.646 FISCAL YEAR 2029 IN THIS LONG RANGE PLAN. WE'VE ALSO INCREASED THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION. WE'VE ESTIMATED INCREASE IN CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF ABOUT 17% OVER THAT 3-YEAR PERIOD, THAT WAS AN ESTIMATE FROM OUR DESIGN 451 02:20:21.646 --> 02:20:38.863 CONSULTANT THAT HE PROVIDED TO TONY AND MYSELF. THE PLAN OR GOAL IS ASSUMING THE PENNY V IS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS IN 2028, WE WOULD MOVE ALL THE PROJECT COSTS TO THE PENNY FUND AND OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 452 02:20:38.863 --> 02:20:55.613 THE PENNY FUND -- EXCUSE ME, THE AQUATIC PROJECT BUDGETED IN THE PENNY FUND. ONCE IT PASSES, WE WOULD MOVE THE ENTIRE PROJECT TO THE PENNY FUND. I WANT TO MENTION ALSO ON THE NEXT PAGE, WE HAVE A COUPLE 453 02:20:55.613 --> 02:21:13.197 PROJECTS, BUENA VISTA DRIVE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, THAT'S A NEW PROJECT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE. IT'S OVER $250,000 IN '28 AND '29 FISCAL YEARS, A TOTAL OF THE FUNDS NEEDED FOR THE BRICK 454 02:21:13.197 --> 02:21:29.414 STREETS WORK ON THE PROJECT. ALSO IN THE OUTER YEARS, WE HAVE REPLACEMENT OF THE FLEET FACILITY DESIGN COST IN 2029. THAT WAS ALSO IN LAST YEAR'S PENNY LONG RANGE PLAN. I WANT TO POINT OUT THIS IS A 455 02:21:29.414 --> 02:21:44.662 LONG RANGE PLAN, A DRAFT, WE HAD THAT IN THE OUTER YEARS, WE ALSO HAD IT IN LAST YEAR'S, WE HAVE ABOUT -- ON PAGE 1 AGAIN, JEAN, 456 02:21:44.662 --> 02:22:01.879 WE HAVE ABOUT $1.5 MILLION IMPORTANT TO MENTION. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM, THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED ROW, WE HAVE ABOUT 1.5 MILLION UNOBLIGATED, THAT'S FUNDING THAT CAN BE USED FOR UNKNOWN CAPITAL PROJECT NEEDS OR PROJECTS THAT MAY GO 457 02:22:01.879 --> 02:22:17.996 OVER BUDGET OVER THE NEXT THREE-YEAR TIME FRAME. AND MOVING TO THE REVENUE COMPARISON, THIS IS -- SHOWS A GRAPH OF BACK IN 2017, THE 458 02:22:17.996 --> 02:22:37.382 COUNTY ESTIMATED THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE STREAM THAT WE WOULD INSPECT THE PENNY FOR, AND THAT ESTIMATE WAS FROM THE PERIOD 2020 THROUGH 2030, THAT ESTIMATE WAS ABOUT 45.3 MILLION, THE 459 02:22:37.382 --> 02:22:52.763 TEN-YEAR TIME FRAME. BASED ON OUR PROJECTIONS FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS, WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT TO BE ABOUT $51.8 MILLION. THAT'S GOOD NEWS, BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL PROJECTION. I WANT TO MENTION, OUR PENNY IV REVENUE GROWTH HAS BEEN 460 02:22:52.763 --> 02:23:08.813 INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED OUT IN EARLY 2020 WITH COVID, AND WE HAD BIG CONCERNS THAT COVID WAS GOING TO DRAMATICALLY REDUCE OUR SALES TAX, LUCKILY IF ONLY REDUCED OUR SALES TAX BY ABOUT 6% IN THE 461 02:23:08.813 --> 02:23:23.628 INITIAL YEAR. IN '21 AND '22, WE HAD REALLY GOOD GROWTH YEARS FOR SALES TAX. WE HAD 16% GROWTH TWO YEARS IN A ROW, WHICH IS EXTRAORDINARY, YOU DON'T SEE THAT OFTEN AND THAT 462 02:23:23.628 --> 02:23:41.479 WAS MAINLY DUE TO PENTUP DEMAND DUE TO COVID, AND RESIDENTS MOVING TO FLORIDA. FROM '23 TO '25, OUR GROWTH WAS MORE MODEST GROWTH AT ABOUT 1.4% AVERAGE PER YEAR FOR THE THREE YEARS, '23 THROUGH '25, BUT IN 463 02:23:41.479 --> 02:23:59.363 TOTAL, WE ARE EXPECTING OUR 10-YEAR REVENUE STREAM TO BE ABOUT 51.8 MILLION. AND NOW, MOVING A LITTLE BIT INTO PENNY 5, THE COUNTY HAS NOT SHARED ANYTHING WITH US, ON PENNY FIVE REVENUE STREAMS YET, I REACHED OUT TO THE COUNTY, THE 464 02:23:59.363 --> 02:24:15.279 O & B DIRECTOR, AND ASKED HIM WHEN HE THOUGHT THEY WOULD SHARE THAT INFORMATION, HE HAD NO SPECIFIC DATE, BUT HE SAID HE WOULD GET BACK TO ME, WHEN HE HAD MORE INFORMATION. I'M ESTIMATING WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS I THINK OR LESS, WE'LL RECEIVE THAT, FOR PURPOSES 465 02:24:15.279 --> 02:24:32.530 OF TODAY, WE MADE AN ASSUMPTION THAT WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT OUR REVENUE STREAM WILL BE ABOUT $63 MILLION, AND THAT IS BASED ON, WE'RE ASSUMING APPROXIMATELY 2.5% GROWTH EVERY YEAR. 466 02:24:32.530 --> 02:24:49.247 THAT WAS THE SAME ESTIMATE THAT THE COUNTY HAD DONE BACK WHEN THEY ESTIMATED OUR REVENUE BACK IN '17. WE THINK IT'S A REASONABLE BASIS OR ASSUMPTION TO USE, SO WE HAVE 2.5% GROWTH FOR THE 10-YEAR PERIOD, ONCE WE RECEIVE THE 467 02:24:49.247 --> 02:25:06.597 COUNTY'S ESTIMATES WE'LL TAKE THOSE UNDER CONSIDERATION AND PROBABLY USE THOSE IF THEY ARE DIFFERENT. FOR NOW, WE THINK IT'S A REASONABLE ASSUMPTION THAT 2.5% MARK. YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING WE COMMIT 85% OF THE FUNDING STREAM, WHICH IS 468 02:25:06.597 --> 02:25:22.814 53.5 MILLION TO PENNY 5 PROJECTS, AND ALLOWING 15% FOR DEBT SERVICE, AND IMMEDIATE NEEDS THAT MAY ARISE OVER THE 10-YEAR TIME FRAME, AND ALSO ABSORB ANY REVENUE SHORTFALLS, IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN. THAT SAME APPROACH WAS DONE BY 469 02:25:22.814 --> 02:25:40.998 OUR CITY BACK IN PENNY IV, THAT'S OUR STARTING POINT. I THINK WE SHOULD HOLD BACK SOME NUMBER AND NOT TRY TO OBLIGATE IT ALL. NEXT ITEM, WE HAVE -- THESE ARE THE PENNY FUNDS REQUEST WE HAVE 470 02:25:40.998 --> 02:25:56.647 TO DATE, WORKING WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS AND THE CITY MANAGER. WE HAVE A -- THE COLUMN ON THE RIGHT IS OUR PENNY FIVE COLUMN, WE ALSO HAVE A PENNY 4 COLUMN ON THE LEFT, AND THAT COLUMN IS 471 02:25:56.647 --> 02:26:12.662 SPECIFICALLY SHOWN TO ESTIMATE THE PENNY 4 DOLLAR AMOUNT WE ARE PROJECTED TO APPLY TO THE HIGHLANDER AQUATIC PROJECT. WE PLAN ON APPLYING $7 MILLION TO THAT PENNY PROJECT, AND THEN THE REST WOULD BE PAID FOR WITH PENNY 5 FUNDING. 472 02:26:12.662 --> 02:26:28.412 THE TOTAL OF THE PROJECTS, AS YOU CAN SEE IS ABOUT 91.4 MILLION. AND IT'S WELL ABOVE OUR REVENUE STREAM WE JUST DISCUSSED, AND THE NEXT FEW SLIDES WE'LL GO THROUGH PROVIDES A HIGH LEVEL SNAPSHOT OF EACH OF THE 473 02:26:28.412 --> 02:26:43.628 PROJECTS, AND I'LL WALK-THROUGH THOSE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE HAVE THE PROJECT MANAGER HERE TO ANSWER ANY DETAILED QUESTIONS. THE FIRST DEPARTMENT IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. 474 02:26:43.628 --> 02:27:00.677 THE FUNDS TO BE USED TOWARD THE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY, DEMOLITION AND/OR SITE WORK FOR A POTENTIAL PROJECT. AND THE SECOND PROJECT IS IMPROVEMENTS TO FACILITATE A TRAIL SEPARATION DOWNTOWN FOR WALKERS, CYCLISTS FROM E BIKES 475 02:27:00.677 --> 02:27:16.861 FROM SKINNER TO SCOTLAND. NEXT IS THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT. >> Mayor Freaney: DO YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS AS WE TAKE THESE SLIDES IF YOU HAVE ANY, OR KEEP GOING AND ASK THEM AT THE END? LET'S ASK THEM AS WE GO, I THINK. 476 02:27:16.861 --> 02:27:33.244 GO BACK TO THE FIRST ONE. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? I'M NOT GOING TO DO THE ROUNDS, IF ANYONE HAS A QUESTION ON THIS ONE. >> COULD YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE PINELLAS TRAIL ENHANCEMENTS, SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME IT COMES UP, IT BELONGS TO 477 02:27:33.244 --> 02:27:50.861 THE COUNTY, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO -- >> BOB IRONSMITH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. WE GOT THE BUSIEST SECTION OF THE TRAIL IN THE WHOLE TRAIL SYSTEM, AND IT CONTINUES TO GET 478 02:27:50.861 --> 02:28:06.477 BUSIER AND BUSIER, SOME IS SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT TO SEE IF WE CAN DO FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS, RELATIVE TO SOME TRAIL SEPARATION. THE E BIKES AND CYCLISTS VERSUS PEDESTRIANS, PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOG AND THINGS THAT HAVE 479 02:28:06.477 --> 02:28:21.525 NATURE, ARE JUST OUTSIDE THE TRAIL, CAUSING CONGESTION, IS THERE A WAY TO GET SOME SEPARATION. THIS IS FORWARD LOOKING, THERE'S NO CONCEPT PLAN TO SHOW YOU TODAY, SOMETHING WE WANTED TO HAVE AT LEAST SOME MONEY IN THE BUCKET IN CASE WE CAN COULD LOOK 480 02:28:21.525 --> 02:28:39.876 AT SOME TYPE OF PARTNERSHIP DEAL. >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN TRAIL SEPARATION. >> HAVING THE SEPARATION FROM E BIKE AND PEDESTRIANS. >> WIDEN THE TRAIL OR DEDICATED A SPECIFIC SPOT ON THE TRAIL? >> IT COULD BE BOTH. WE'RE LOOKING AT WIDENING THE 481 02:28:39.876 --> 02:28:55.626 TRAIL WHERE WE HAVE IT, AND LOOKING AT SEPARATION IN THERE. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S JUST A BUSY SECTION. >> THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE AS A DETAILED CONCEPT PLAN. 482 02:28:55.626 --> 02:29:11.609 >> I THINK FORWARD PINELLAS MAY END UP DOING SOME DESIGN. >> YES, I CAN REFER TO THE CITY MANAGER. JENNIFER HAS HAD TALKS WITH BLA BLANTON, I THINK THE STAFF HAS TAKEN A LOOK AT THAT. >> I THINK THERE'S A GRANT SUBMITTAL THING. 483 02:29:11.609 --> 02:29:29.526 MY QUESTION IS, WOULD THAT BE A PARTNERSHIP? IN YOUR BEST WORLD, WOULD YOU BE LOOKING AT 1.5 FROM IS AND 1.5 FROM THE COUNTY? OR DON'T YOU KNOW? >> DON'T KNOW. WE'RE LOOKING AT A SHARED PARTNERSHIP. I THINK PART OF WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS, WHEN THE TRAIL 484 02:29:29.526 --> 02:29:45.342 WAS FORMED, THIS WAS LINEAR PARK. IT CLOSED AT DUSK, WE WERE THE FIRST ONES TO GET IT LIT. NOW IT'S NOT ONLY A LINEAR PARK, IT'S ALSO AN ACTIVITY ENGINE, AND CERTAINLY DUNEDIN HAS DONE THAT. >> Mayor Freaney: THANK YOU. 485 02:29:45.342 --> 02:30:02.493 OKAY, GO AHEAD. >> NEXT IS FIRE RESCUE. FIRST IS A STORAGE FACILITY. THIS WOULD PROVIDE SECURE CENTRALIZED STORAGE FOR FIRE EQUIPMENT. CURRENTLY THE DEPARTMENT LACKS 486 02:30:02.493 --> 02:30:19.610 ADEQUATE SPACE TO HOUSE BACKUP APPARATUS. FIRE STATION 60 REPLACEMENT. THE STATION WAS BUILT IN 1977 AND REMODELLED IN 2004 WITH NEW FACILITY ON THE EXISTING PROPERTY, THE PROJECT WOULD INCORPORATE PROJECT 487 02:30:19.610 --> 02:30:36.293 ADMINISTRATION, AND ADDRESS RESILIENCY AND FUTURE OPERATIONAL NEEDS. AD THERE ARE TWO MORE FOR FIRE RESCUE, THE NEXT ONE IS FIRE STATION 62 HARDENING OF INNOVATIONS. THE STATION WAS BUILT IN 1996, 488 02:30:36.293 --> 02:30:53.911 WITH USEFUL LIFE, APPROXIMATELY 2040 TIME FRAME, IMPROVEMENTS WOULD FOCUS ON STORM RESILIENCY, FIREFIGHTER SAFETY AND HEALTH. BUILDING SYSTEMS, OPERATIONAL CONTINUITY, AND A FUTURE PENNY CYCLE AFTER PENNY 5. 489 02:30:53.911 --> 02:31:11.595 AND THE LAST ONE IS TRAINING EOC SITE IMPROVEMENTS FOR TRAINING ON THE PROPERTY TO SUPPORT DEPARTMENT TRAINING, EMERGENCY OPERATIONS, AND LONG TERM OPERATIONAL READINESS. THE PROJECT WOULD INCLUDE A TRAINING TOWER TO PROVIDE TRAINING CAPABILITIES, AND 490 02:31:11.595 --> 02:31:27.578 SUPPORT FUTURE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS. >> ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ONES? >> COMMISSIONER DUGARD? >> AS WE'RE CONSIDERING REORGANIZING OUR REVENUE FLOW FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WILL DEBTS BE TRANSFERRED IN SUCH A 491 02:31:27.578 --> 02:31:45.196 TRANSACTION IN THE FUTURE AS WELL? >> WOULD THE FIRE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT IF IT WERE APPROVED? WE COULD ISSUE FINANCING WITH THAT FOR SURE, AND WE WOULD -- ISSUE FINANCING FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, 492 02:31:45.196 --> 02:32:00.344 YEAH, WE DEFINITELY, IF IT'S APPROVED WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE DEBT SERVICE BASED ON THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND. >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Freaney: THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON FIRE? 493 02:32:00.344 --> 02:32:19.729 I HAVE ONE, ON THE LOGISTICS THING. IS THAT MAINLY VEHICLES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS GOING IN THERE. WE DON'T HAVE A REALLY GOOD STORAGE AREA FOR BUNKER GEAR, THAT'S IN A CLIMATE CONTROLLED 494 02:32:19.729 --> 02:32:36.547 FOR OUR SPARE BUNKER GEAR, ALL FIREFIGHTERS, WE'RE LOOKING TO GET TWO SETS OF BUNKER GEAR, IT NEEDS TO BE IN A CONTROLLED AREA. SUPPLIES FOR HURRICANES, THE STATIONS WERE NOT BUILT FOR WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. WE DEFINITELY DO NEED ADDITIONAL 495 02:32:36.547 --> 02:32:51.295 STORAGE. THE OTHER THING FOR THE LOGISTICS BUILDING IS IN THE EVENT OF A HURRICANE, A PLACE TO KEEP SOME OF OUR APPARATUS SAFE, IN BASICALLY A HURRICANE RATED BUILDING, SO THAT POST STORM, THEY'RE ABLE TO RESPOND AND SERVE THE PUBLIC MUCH. 496 02:32:51.295 --> 02:33:07.944 >> I GUESS MY QUESTION TOO WOULD BE, IF WE WERE TO HEAVILY RENOVATE OR REBUILD STATION 60, IT COULD BE KIND OF BUILT INTO STORAGE FOR EQUIPMENT, AND THEN VEHICLES WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT, AREN'T WE FOR THE 497 02:33:07.944 --> 02:33:25.095 PARKING -- THE POTENTIAL OF THE PARKING GARAGE, OR I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER -- OR IF WE DID A NEW FLEET ONE, WOULDN'T WE WANT TO -- WE COULD DO IT THERE? >> YEAH. >> IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME SYNERGIES HERE. >> WE COULD DO IT IN A NUMBER OF PLACES. I KNOW THE PARKING GARAGE, IF WE 498 02:33:25.095 --> 02:33:41.278 MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PARKING GARAGE, THE GROUND FLOOR, WE COULD STORE SOME OF THE FLEET IN THERE, BUT THE FIRE APPARATUS IS TOO HIGH IN THE PARKING GARAGE ITSELF. THERE ARE OTHER FLEET ITEMS, AS I SAID, WE COULD FIT IN THERE, PERHAPS EVEN FIRE DEPARTMENT ITEMS, BUT SOME OF THE APPARATUS 499 02:33:41.278 --> 02:33:57.328 WOULD NOT FIT. >> Mayor Freaney: OKAY, THANK YOU, CHIEF. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> Mayor Freaney: NEXT? >> NEXT IS IT SERVICES. THIS IS A SECURE FIBER CABLE INFRASTRUCTURE INSTALLATION, 500 02:33:57.328 --> 02:34:14.878 THIS WOULD CONNECT ALL CITY BUILDINGS TO ITS SECURE FIBEROPTICS CABLES, PROVIDE A BACKBONE FOR ADVANCED CITY SERVICES, AND ELIMINATE COSTS WE CURRENTLY PAY TO 3rd PARTIES NOW. 501 02:34:14.878 --> 02:34:30.094 >> Mayor Freaney: QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE, DOES THIS IN ANYWAY INVOLVE CYBER SECURITY PROTECTIONS? TELL ME, WHEN I'M UP IN MY OFFICE DOING MY STUFF OR CITIZENS ARE DOING IT, HOW THIS CHANGES THEIR WORLD? 502 02:34:30.094 --> 02:34:48.312 >> MICHAEL NAGY, IT DIRECTOR, CURRENTLY WE HAVE FIVE BUILDINGS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THE CITY'S FIBER CABLING. WE USE A THIRD PARTY, SO WE'RE VULNERABLE TO WHATEVER THEY ALLOW LEAKING IN. 503 02:34:48.312 --> 02:35:04.561 THIS WILL GIVE US DIRECT CONNECTION FROM CITY HALL TO EOC, IT WILL -- RIGHT NOW, EVERYBODY IS -- THERE'S ONLY THREE BUILDINGS THAT DON'T RELY ON EVERYTHING IN THE NORTHWEST. 504 02:35:04.561 --> 02:35:21.578 WASTEWATER, HAIL CENTER, AND LIBRARY ALL CONNECTED HERE. EVERYBODY ELSE GOES THROUGH WATER PLANT TO PUBLIC SERVICES TO THE EOC. THOSE TWO BUILDINGS ARE DOWN, WE HAVE A LOT OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE DOWN. WE HAVE FIBER CABLING ALONG SAN CHRISTOPHER THAT'S RIGHT BELOW 505 02:35:21.578 --> 02:35:38.862 THE BLACKTOP, IF SOMEONE WERE TO DESTROY THAT WATER PLANT'S DOWN. PUBLIC SERVICES, EOC. IF FIBER CABLE ON SAN CHRISTOPHER WEST OF PINEHURST IS DESTROYED, ALL OF HIGHLANDER PARK, AS WELL AS THE OTHER 506 02:35:38.862 --> 02:35:54.445 BUILDINGS I JUST MENTIONED WOULD BE DOWN. SO THIS DEDICATED WOULD BE A WHOLE NEW ROUTE USING HALF OF OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE, GOING THROUGH JERRY LAKE, UP ACHIEVE HAVE WAY, THE BACK WAY INTO PUBLIC SERVICES AND FUSE THE LINE THAT GOES TO EOC. 507 02:35:54.445 --> 02:36:12.229 IT WOULD MAKE US MUCH MORE SECURE. GETTING INTO THE CYBER SECURITY ASPECT YOU JUST MENTIONED, GETTING US OFF THIRD PARTY ENTITIES WOULD BE HELPFUL. THERE ARE PROJECTS WE WANT TO DO TO MAKE EOC A REDUNDANT BACKUP 508 02:36:12.229 --> 02:36:27.611 CENTER. WE NEED FIBER TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. >> Mayor Freaney: OKAY, MICHAEL, THANK YOU. WE'LL KEEP GOING. >> NEXT IS LIBRARY OF INNOVATIONS. THE LIBRARY WILL BE 30 YEARS OLD 509 02:36:27.611 --> 02:36:43.794 IN 2026. CONSTRUCTING A NEW CIRCULATION DESK, AND ENTRY AREA TO CREATE MORE STUDY SPACE AND UPDATING STAFF'S WORK SPACES TO REFLECT EVOLVING ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. >> Mayor Freaney: ANY QUESTIONS? 510 02:36:43.794 --> 02:37:04.648 KEEP GOING. >> NEXT IS PARKS AND REC. FIRST IS THE CONCESSION BUILDING REPLACEMENT. THE CONCESSION STAND AT FISHER 511 02:37:04.648 --> 02:37:20.563 FIELD PROVIDES RESTROOM FACILITIES, CONCESSION FACILITIES, THE BUILDING HAS EXCEEDED ITS USEFUL LIFE AND HAS MANY PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL ISSUES. THE NEXT IS THE HIGHLANDER AQUATIC COMPLEX. THE NEW FACILITY WILL INCLUDE AN 512 02:37:20.563 --> 02:37:37.214 ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, ACTIVITY POOL AND THERAPY POOL AND MECHANICAL FACILITIES, AND NEXT IS THE MARINA BOAT RAMP REPLACEMENT. THIS REALIZATION OF THE BOAT RAMP IS TO ADDRESS LONGSTANDING 513 02:37:37.214 --> 02:37:52.862 OPERATIONAL ISSUES, THE EXISTING RAMP CREATES CONGESTION DURING PEAK HOURS AND LIMITS MANEUVERING OF VEHICLES. THERE WOULD BE A DRIVE THROUGH LANE THROUGH THE PARKING AREA, 514 02:37:52.862 --> 02:38:08.612 TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC FLOW, AND PROVIDE SAFER OPERATION BETWEEN THE LAUNCHING, LOADING AND PEDESTRIANS ACTIVITY. AND THEN THERE'S THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT, THE CITY HAS 13 PLAYGROUNDS THAT MUST MEET ALL CURRENT REGULATIONS. 515 02:38:08.612 --> 02:38:25.796 TYPICAL PLAYGROUND HAS A LIFE SPAN OF 10 TO 15 YEARS, AND THIS REQUIRES REPLACEMENT OF 1 OR 2 PLAYGROUNDS EVERY YEAR, AND OUR CURRENT BUDGET IS APPROXIMATELY 200,000 ANNUALLY FOR PLAYGROUNDS. THOSE ARE THE PARKS AND REC. 516 02:38:25.796 --> 02:38:40.310 >> ANY QUESTIONS ON PARKS & REC? >> I DID HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT. FISHER CONCESSION STAND. WHERE DID THAT ALMOST $2 MILLION NUMBER COME FROM? 517 02:38:40.310 --> 02:38:59.930 >> IT WAS 1.1, BUT IT WAS RAISED IN '20. >> TONY MALKE, THE NUMBER WAS BENCHMARKED OFF OF PROJECTS FROM OTHER PLACES IN THE STATE WITH SIMILAR FOOTPRINTS. LOOKING AT WHAT THE PREVIOUS ESTIMATES WERE, I THINK WE HAD 518 02:38:59.930 --> 02:39:17.114 ABOUT 1.1 MILLION, AROUND 1 MILLION PREVIOUSLY, LOOKING FORWARD TO 2030 WITH ANY KIND OF ESCALATION AND COST TO MANUFACTURE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT'S THAT SAME KIND OF PARADIGM WHERE YOU'RE BUILDING IN THE 519 02:39:17.114 --> 02:39:34.064 PUBLIC REALM, WHERE EVERYTHING HAS TO BE TOP NOTCH ON STRENGTH. IT REALLY BUILDS UP THE PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT. >> CASE, I'LL LIVE WITH THAT. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Freaney: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> MAYOR, IF I MAY. >> Mayor Freaney: YES. >> AND I DO BELIEVE THAT 520 02:39:34.064 --> 02:39:50.881 CONCESSION STAND IS THE ORIGINAL. SO IT WAS BUILT A LONG TIME AGO. FOR THE AQUATIC -- IF I CAN FIND IT, IF I DID LOSE IT, WHERE DID THAT 7 MILLION COME FROM, PENNY 521 02:39:50.881 --> 02:40:07.531 IV, I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE LIST OF THE PENNY IV PROJECTS, NOT THAT WERE COMPLETED, BUT IN THE -- >> YEAH, THE -- >> WHATEVER IT CAME FROM IN PENNY IV, WE HAVE THE AQUATIC 522 02:40:07.531 --> 02:40:23.613 COMPLEX PROJECT BUDGETED IN '29, WE ALSO HAVE PROCEEDS BUDGETED IN '29 ALSO. AND THAT 7 MILLION IS REALLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DEBT PROCEEDS AND THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS. MEANING WHAT WE'RE PAYING CASH 523 02:40:23.613 --> 02:40:41.331 FOR ON THE PROJECT. IT'S BASICALLY -- FOR THE MOST PART, THE DIFFERENT BETWEEN THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND THE DEBT PROCEEDS IS WHERE YOU GET THAT NUMBER. 524 02:40:41.331 --> 02:40:56.780 IS THAT ME? >> YEAH, IT'S THE SPONGY THING. PUT THAT BACK ON. >> I APOLOGIZE. SORRY. DID THAT MAKE SENSE? >> YES, IT DOES. 525 02:40:56.780 --> 02:41:11.595 THANK YOU, I SEE IT NOW IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. WE'RE GOOD. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, THANK YOU. >> SO THE MARINA BOAT RAMP, IT OCCURS TO ME THAT ANY PRIVATE SECTOR COMPANY THAT WAS FIGURING 526 02:41:11.595 --> 02:41:26.610 OUT AN ENTERPRISE FUND, IT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THEIR FEES WITH THE BOAT RAMP? SO WHY WOULD THE BOAT RAMP NOT BE PART OF THE ENTER PRIZE FUND 527 02:41:26.610 --> 02:41:44.628 AND, THEREFORE, COST IF THERE'S ANY COST FOR THEM. >> I BELIEVE THE THOUGHT WAS, THE BOAT RAMP IS NOT REALLY USED BY THE SLIP RENTERS, IT'S USED BY THE PUBLIC. AND I THINK THAT WAS THE GENERAL THOUGHT WHY IT WOULD BE PAID -- 528 02:41:44.628 --> 02:42:00.644 NOT PAID OUT OF THE MARINA FUND. >> Mayor Freaney: THE MARINA IS GETTING A LOT OF LOVE RIGHT NOW, WITH A LOT OF APPROPRIATIONS. MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE THOUGHT ABOUT A LITTLE BIT. AND JUST A QUESTION, ACTUALLY, SOMEBODY ASKED ME THIS YESTERDAY. BECAUSE -- AND IT JUST REMINDED 529 02:42:00.644 --> 02:42:16.293 ME, I THINK WE ASKED IT BEFORE. WOULD THE MONEY WE'RE GETTING FOR APPROPRIATIONS AND THE FEMA THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE COMING N HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK? >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I'VE GOT A MEETING PLANNINGED WITH TETRA TECH, OUR CONSULTANTS 530 02:42:16.293 --> 02:42:32.275 TO TALK ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE THROWS DOLLARS WILL HAVE TO BE SPENT BEFORE FEEL MARK BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE HOW WE -- WHICH PROJECT WE PUT THEM ON, AND WE WANT TO PUT THEM ON DOCK A & B, AND NOT THE PEER, 531 02:42:32.275 --> 02:42:49.259 I'M TRYING TO DO THAT MAKING SURE WE'RE WORKING WITH FEMA. >> Mayor Freaney: AT SOME POINT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE MORE MONEY THAN WE -- >> NO, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, THE PROENGS THAT WE GOT IS THE BIRD IN HAND. >> Mayor Freaney: WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET 532 02:42:49.259 --> 02:43:07.611 FROM FEMA? >> CORRECT. WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH FEMA, WE'VE NOT BEEN REIMBURSED. I KNOW THE MARINA ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS LOOKING AT FLOATING DOCKS. FEMA WILL REIMBURSE FOR WHAT WAS 533 02:43:07.611 --> 02:43:24.294 THERE BEFORE. FLOATING DOCKS A & B, IT'S A BIRD IN HAND, FEMA WOULD THEN BACK OFF. WHAT IT IS THAT WE HAVE ASKED THEM FOR AS FAR AS AREPAIR OF THE MARINA. WE WOULDN'T END UP WITH MOTHER 534 02:43:24.294 --> 02:43:40.310 MONEY, THE APPROPRIATION IS MORE SURE THAN OUR FEMA REIMBURSEMENT RIGHT NOW. >> Mayor Freaney: OKAY. >> I JUST -- THOSE ARE -- REGARDING THE MARINA AND THE BOAT RAMP, THOSE ARE REALLY GOOD 535 02:43:40.310 --> 02:43:51.388 QUESTIONS. MIGHT BE RHETORICAL, BUT WE STILL CHARGE FOR AN ANNUAL -- A PASS FOR THE BOAT RAMP, OR ACCESS TO IT. 536 02:43:51.388 --> 02:44:12.475 AND THAT GOES INTO THE ENTERPRISE FUND. >> THE BOAT RAMP REVENUE -- 537 02:44:12.475 --> 02:44:28.692 [ INAUDIBLE ] >> IF I MAY, MAYOR, WAS IT PART OF THE BUDGET LAST YEAR? >> YES. >> SO IT WAS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT WE REMOVED THE BOAT RAMP OUT OF THE MARINA ENTERPRISE FUND TO EASE THE IMPACT ON THE MARINE THAT 538 02:44:28.692 --> 02:44:44.674 ENTERPRISE FUND, BECAUSE THE BOAT RAMP IS USED BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC, AND THAT -- IT'S NOT EVEN RESIDENTS, IT'S THE GENERAL PUBLIC AT THIS POINT, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF REVENUE INVOLVED IN THAT, I THINK IT'S 15,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE COMMISSION WOULD PREFER WE 539 02:44:44.674 --> 02:45:00.890 ADDRESS, WE CAN LOOK AT IT AS PART OF THIS BUDGET CYCLE, BUT WE HAD A HARD TIME WITH THE NEXUS BETWEEN THE MARINA FUND AND THE BOAT RAMP AS FAR AS THE USAGE GOES. >> Mayor Freaney: YEAH, I WAS JUST ASKING HOW A PRIVATE SECTOR COMPANY WOULD DO IT, AND HOW 540 02:45:00.890 --> 02:45:17.273 THEY WOULD FACTOR IT IN. I DOUBT VERY MUCH THEY WOULD INCLUDE IT IN THEIR ENTERPRISE. >> TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND -- I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION WITH REGARDS TO MOVING IT TO THE GENERAL FUND, BIT I THINK MAYBE WE NEED A 541 02:45:17.273 --> 02:45:33.623 REMINDER ON WHAT THAT IMPACT LOOKS LIKE. >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> THE SECOND RELATED TO THAT IT ALSO WIDENS THE BOAT RAMP, THE PROPOSAL HERE, THE DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> YEAH, THANK YOU. >> Mayor Freaney: IT'S NOT A 542 02:45:33.623 --> 02:45:48.905 GREAT BOAT RAMP, I'M NOT DEBATING THAT AT ALL. >> IS THE USE OF PENNY FUNDS IN ANYWAY GOING TO PRESCRIBE WHO GETS TO USE THE BOAT RAMP? THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS IF WE 543 02:45:48.905 --> 02:46:03.819 USE PENNY FUNDS ON THE BOAT RAMP IT HAS TO BE OPEN TO ANYONE IN PINELLAS COUNTY? I WANT TO BE SURE ON THAT. >> THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS. >> I WANTED TO BE SURE. >> Mayor Freaney: COOL. 544 02:46:03.819 --> 02:46:23.206 OKAY, I GUESS WE CONTINUE. >> NEXT IS PUBLIC WORKS, FIRST IS BRICK STREETS. THEY'RE CONSIDERED AN ASSET BY THE CITY, WHICH HAVE HISTORIC VALUE WITH A LIFECYCLE SIMILAR TO ASPHALT. 545 02:46:23.206 --> 02:46:38.888 IT TAKES MANY YEARS TO BUILD UP TO DO ONE BLOCK OF REPAIRS OR REPLACEMENTS OF BRICK STREETS. ROAD PRESERVATION, INCLUDES ASSESSMENT WITH STANDARD PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX RATINGS. TREATMENT COSTS AND CONDITIONS 546 02:46:38.888 --> 02:46:55.038 ARE SOME OF THE CRITERIA USED TO PRIORITIZE THE ROADWAY SEGMENTS, PRESERVED PAVEMENT INTEGRITY. WE CURRENTLY BUDGET 1.3 MILLION IN PENNY 4 FOR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT, WE ARE PROPOSING THE 547 02:46:55.038 --> 02:47:11.621 INNING CREASE TO 1.5 IN PENNY 5 DUE TO DECREASE IN GAS TAX DOLLARS, AND ALSO ESTIMATED PROJECTED INCREASES IN PAVEMENT COSTS. AND THEN ALSO PUBLIC WORKS REPLACEMENT BUILDING. 548 02:47:11.621 --> 02:47:29.205 THIS IS A NEW CAT 5 BUILDING, TO INCLUDE ALL DAILY FLEET NEEDS, INCLUDING PINELLAS COUNTY SHERIFF -- INCLUDING FUEL EQUIPMENT AND STORAGE. IT WILL BE PLANNED TO BE A DUAL 549 02:47:29.205 --> 02:47:44.320 USE FACILITY, HOUSING EMPLOYEES DURING A STORM EVENT, GRANTS WILL ALSO BE PURSUED FOR THIS PROJECT. >> ANY QUESTIONS, ALTHOUGH I WOE SUGGEST YOU CALL THAT THE FLEET FACILITY REPLACEMENT, BECAUSE TO ME, PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING IS THE 550 02:47:44.320 --> 02:48:01.171 ONE BEHIND THE WATER PLANT. AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN CALLED TO ME. SO IT WAS CONFUSING. ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE LAST COUPLE? >> ON THE BRICK STREETS. SO I GUESS THIS -- KIND OF 551 02:48:01.171 --> 02:48:18.321 UNDERSTAND THAT $5 MILLION NUMBER, WE'VE BEEN -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY INADEQUATELY BUDGETED IN PENNY 4 ANNUALLY, IS THAT BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? >> YEAH, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN -- BASICALLY, YES, THAT'S TRUE. 552 02:48:18.321 --> 02:48:36.806 TO DO A STREET, IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE. PROBABLY A MILLION DOLLARS TO DO A STREET, ROUGHLY. WE'VE BEEN SETTING ASIDE DOLLARS TO HAVE FUNDING. WE DO HAVE THE ONE PROPOSED WE TALKED ABOUT FOR AN EXTRA 500 TO DO BUENA VISTA. 553 02:48:36.806 --> 02:48:54.824 IN GENERAL, WE'RE UNDERFUNDING THAT. >> Mayor Freaney: AND BUENA VISTA IS HORRIBLE. IT'S WHERE THE KELLOGG MANSION WAS TORN DOWN. IT'S -- ANYWAY, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> I DO. ON THE BRICK STREETS. 554 02:48:54.824 --> 02:49:10.773 LES, IS THERE -- HAS THERE EVER BEEN THOUGHT GIVEN TO AN ASSESSMENT TO THE HOMEOWNERS WHO LIVE ON BRICK STREETS AND WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE TO HELP SUBSIDIZE AND WHAT THE IMPACT OF A BRICK STREET IS TO THE MARKET 555 02:49:10.773 --> 02:49:26.856 VALUE OF A HOME? >> THAT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING WE HAVE LOOKED INTO AS FAR AS A DIRECT ASSESSMENT. >> OKAY. WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED? WHAT FORM WOULD I PROPOSE THAT. >> SUBJECT TO CONSENSUS DIRECTION FROM THE CITY 556 02:49:26.856 --> 02:49:43.339 COMMISSION, IT'S SOMETHING I COULD LOOK INTO. >> Mayor Freaney: I THINK THE ARGUMENT AGAINST IT, IS THAT THE BRICK STREETS HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO DO A BREAK EVEN. YOU DO A BRICK STREET, IT LASTS 100 YEARS, NO MAINTENANCE. 557 02:49:43.339 --> 02:50:00.389 YOU DO A PAVED STREET, IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED EVERY 15, 20 YEARS? >> LESS THAN THAT. >> Mayor Freaney: WE WENT THROUGH THAT EXERCISE, SO THAT'S KIND OF MY POINT OF VIEW. >> AND I COULD DISAGREE WITH THAT, I REMEMBER THAT EXERCISE, I REMEMBER THAT'S THE LOGIC WE 558 02:50:00.389 --> 02:50:15.638 USED WITH SANTA BASH REMARK AND I CAN'T DISAGREE WITH IT, ALSO, JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THE UP FRONT COST IS SO EXPENSIVE. JUST A THOUGHT, NOT SOMETHING STRONGLY, IT'S JUST, HOW CAN WE HELP REDUCE THE IMPACT ON CITY 559 02:50:15.638 --> 02:50:32.155 BUDGET IS WHERE MY HEAD IS. >> RELATED TO THAT, PROCEDURALLY, HOW WOULD WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? >> WELL, SUBJECT TO CONSENSUS DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COMMISSION, WE WOULD NEED TO DO VISION AS FAR AS THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT FOR BRICK STREETS, 560 02:50:32.155 --> 02:50:48.371 THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SET UP. THERE'S A DIRECT ASSESSMENT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE OPTIONS BY STATUTE, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> AND JUST MY COMMENTS AREN'T 561 02:50:48.371 --> 02:51:04.487 AGAINST BRICK STREETS, I LOVE THEM AND SUPPORT THEM. IT'S JUST THE DOLLAR VALUE. >> Mayor Freaney: YEAH, I GET THAT. I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT INVOLUNTARY ASSESSMENT OR EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD 562 02:51:04.487 --> 02:51:19.902 DECIDE? >> I HADN'T EVEN GONE THAT FAR. >> IT DEPENDS ON THE ASSESSMENT. >> Mayor Freaney: I'M NOT EVEN THERE WITH YOU, JUST ASKING THE QUESTION. >> DEPENDS ON THE VEHICLE. >> Mayor Freaney: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 563 02:51:19.902 --> 02:51:37.487 OKAY, GO AHEAD. >> THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE PENNY V REQUEST, AND IT'S BROKEN OUT THAT THE FACILITY TYPE REQUEST, TOTALLED ABOUT 36.9 MILLION RECREATION PROJECTS, 27.4 MILLION, INFRASTRUCTURE 564 02:51:37.487 --> 02:51:55.171 TYPE PROJECTS 26.9 MILLION. AND GRANTS AND INCENTIVES, APPROXIMATELY 1 MILLION. AND NEXT IS SORT OF A SUMMARY OF, WE'VE GOT OUR ESTIMATED AVAILABLE FUNDING OF 53.5 MILLION, BASED ON THE 85% OF OUR 565 02:51:55.171 --> 02:52:11.854 PROJECTION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, OVER THAT 10-YEAR TIME FRAME, TO REQUEST THE PROJECTS CURRENTLY, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A CHALLENGE IN DETERMINING WHICH PENNY PROJECT SHOULD BE FUNDED. 566 02:52:11.854 --> 02:52:30.072 THERE WERE CHALLENGES IN PENNY IV AND PENNY III, WE HAVE NUMEROUS COMPETING INFRASTRUCTURE PRIORITIES, AND CITY COMMISSION AND STAFF WILL NEED TO WORK THROUGH AND EVALUATE AND PRIORITIZE PROJECTS FOR PENNY 5 FOR FACTORS SUCH AS 567 02:52:30.072 --> 02:52:46.255 PUBLIC SAFETY, ECONOMIC IMPACT AND PROJECT READINESS, AND ALIGNING WITH OUR CITY'S LONG TERM GOALS. OUR THOUGHT MOVING FORWARD IS -- FOR NEXT STEPS, YOU KNOW, YOUR INPUT TODAY ON THE REQUESTED PROJECTS, AND THEN FUTURE 568 02:52:46.255 --> 02:53:00.937 IDENTIFICATION OF SIGNATURE PROJECTS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, I THINK WE -- I THINK WE'RE WELL IN ADVANCE OF WHERE WE NEED TO BE AS FAR AS LOOKING INTO THIS. I THINK IT'S GOOD, I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH ANOTHER WORKSHOP OR TWO, LEFT UP TO THE COMMISSION'S DIRECTION. 569 02:53:00.937 --> 02:53:17.720 I THINK THE COUNTY WILL -- IF I LOOKED AT PENNY 4 TIME FRAMES, THE COUNTY WILL PROBABLY WANT OUR SIGNATURE PROJECTS A YEAR FROM NOW, OR MAYBE EVEN LATE IN 2027 YEAR. BUT WE WANTED TO GET IN FRONT OF 570 02:53:17.720 --> 02:53:33.035 IT, AND START THE DISCUSSIONS EARLY. THAT CONCLUDES OUR COMMENTS, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. >> IF WE DO A ROUNDTABLE, KIND OF GENERAL COMMENTS ON THOUGHTS ON THE SIGNATURE PROJECTS, MORE 571 02:53:33.035 --> 02:53:48.718 INFORMATION YOU MAY NEED ON CERTAIN THINGS. >> IF YOU WANT DEEPER INVESTIGATION, WHAT IS IT? >> I DON'T KNOW WHO'S SIDE I'M STARTING ON, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY THIS SIDE I'M SUPPOSED TO START. COMMISSIONER GOW? >> JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT'S 572 02:53:48.718 --> 02:54:04.867 THAT SHORTFALL SLIDE IS WHAT SPURRED MY QUESTION ON HOW WE CAN GET THE PROJECTS -- >> IT'S ALL GOOD. >> Mayor Freaney: THAT'S FAIR. >> $37 MILLION, 38 MILLION. YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO -- 573 02:54:04.867 --> 02:54:21.617 I'M NOT GOING TO QUESTION ANY OF THE PROPOSED PROJECTS OTHER THAN GOING-FORWARD. REALLY WHAT IS A NEED VERSUS WHAT IS A WANT. AND IS IT SOMETHING THE CITY NEEDS? 574 02:54:21.617 --> 02:54:38.901 OR THIS IS SOMETHING -- HEY, SINCE WE HAVE THE MONEY COMING IN, LET'S DO THIS, AND TRY TO FOCUS ON A NEED IN GENERAL. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, THANK YOU. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER DUGARD? >> ANY CHANCE WE COULD MAKE IT NICKEL FOR PINELLAS. 575 02:54:38.901 --> 02:54:55.017 >> THAT WOULD BE GLORIOUS. >> NO, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT FIRST STEP, IT LETS US KNOW WHAT OUR SCOPE IS, WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE ABOUT. I DO THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO NARROW THIS DOWN IN THE FUTURE, IN SOME FUTURE WORK SESSIONS. BUT IT'S A GOOD START, THANK YOU. 576 02:54:55.017 --> 02:55:08.931 >> VICE MAYOR? >> I JUST GOT A VERY QUICK QUESTION. DOES PENNY IV, I KNOW THE TIME LINE FOR PENNY IV ENDS. 577 02:55:08.931 --> 02:55:25.748 LET'S SAY WE HAVE FUNDS -- WOULD PENNY IV FUNDS CARRY FORWARD INTO PENNY V OR IS THERE AN EXPIRATION. >> NO, THEY CARRY FORWARD. >> IT'S ABOUT 1.5 MILLION. WE WOULD ALSO CARRY FORWARD DOLLARS FOR THE AQUATIC COMPLEX 578 02:55:25.748 --> 02:55:41.730 AS WELL. >> OKAY. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE PROJECTS, THIS IS A GOOD STARTING POINT, AND I THINK COMMISSIONER GOW'S COMMENT WITH 579 02:55:41.730 --> 02:55:59.215 REGARDS TO PARSING THIS INTO NEEDS AND WANTS IS GOING TO BE A CRITICAL PART OF THIS >> Mayor Freaney: COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN? >> NOT REALLY ANYTHING TO ADD, THE SHORTFALL IS A CONCERN, AND 580 02:55:59.215 --> 02:56:15.197 I THINK IT REALLY OPENS UP YOUR EYES TO HOW IMPORTANT THIS VOTE WILL BE. IT WILL BE NOVEMBER OF 2028 IS WHEN IT WILL BE BACK ON THE BALLOT? >> YES, NOVEMBER '28. >> THAT'S ALL, THANK YOU. >> Mayor Freaney: AND AGAIN, WAS IT LEGALLY NOT ALLOWED TO BE ON 581 02:56:15.197 --> 02:56:32.148 THE BALLOT NOVEMBER 2027? THAT'S HOW IT'S ALWAYS BEEN? AND IT DEFINITELY ALLOWS FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY? >> OH, I REMEMBER. IT HAS TO RUN WITH THE NATIONAL ELECTION. >> Mayor Freaney: IT HAS TO BE PART OF THE MIDTERMS OR NATIONAL 582 02:56:32.148 --> 02:56:47.396 ELECTION. I WON'T SECOND GUESS THAT. I THINK IT'S OBVIOUSLY NEED VERSUS WANT. IT'S ALSO WHAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS VERSUS WANTS. 583 02:56:47.396 --> 02:57:04.547 WHEN I SAY THAT I THINK, ACTUALLY OUR BRILLIANT -- HOW SHOULD I CALL HER, SHE'S SUCH A RIGHT ARM UP THERE, LINDSAY, I ASK HER TO LOOK AT THEM AND GIVE ME THOUGHTS. SHE WAS FUNNY, SHE WENT TO THE 584 02:57:04.547 --> 02:57:20.629 CITIZEN SURVEY, AND HAD DIFFERENT -- HOW HIGH PLAYGROUNDS ARE RATED. YOU KNOW, EVEN EX-PERSONAL PROGRAMMING THAT'S OUT THERE, AND IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE WAYS OUR CITIZENS THINK, IT WASN'T THE DIRECTION I'M GOING IN. WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO 585 02:57:20.629 --> 02:57:36.912 OBVIOUSLY -- I THINK THERE'S MORE TO LEARN HERE, I THINK WITH THE FIRE STATIONS, THERE'S A LOT MORE TO LEARN AND UNDERSTAND THE CONDITIONS AND, YOU KNOW, THE NEED FOR REPLACEMENT, THERE'S CERTAINLY MORE TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT SYNERGIES, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STORAGE, WHERE TO KEEP 586 02:57:36.912 --> 02:57:53.462 VEHICLES, ALL VEHICLES, I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE SYNERGIES WE CAN DO, I WILL -- HIGHLANDER POOL IS NUMBER ONE SIGNATURE PROJECT IF I HAD THE ONLY VOTE, BUT I DON'T. THAT WAS A SIGNATURE PROJECT 587 02:57:53.462 --> 02:58:09.845 LOST TIME, FOR THE LAST DECADE AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, NOW WE HAVE A BROKEN DOWN POOL THAT HASN'T BEEN OPEN ALL SUMMER. THAT IS UN ACCEPTABLE. AND WE HAVE LET THE POOL GO AND GO AND GO. AND NOW WE'RE IN CRISIS. TO ME, THAT IS NUMBER ONE 588 02:58:09.845 --> 02:58:26.061 PROJECT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN DONE LAST DECADE, AND WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE THE PRIORITY FOR THE NEXT DECADE. SOME OTHER THOUGHTS OF MINE, OBVIOUSLY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS, OF COURSE, SEED MONEY TO SOMETHING EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 589 02:58:26.061 --> 02:58:42.278 ALWAYS TOP THE LIST OF OUR CITIZENS, OF THE COUNTRY. SO KEEPING SEED MONEY THERE FOR THAT, IT'S SMALL POTATOES IN A GAME THAT MEANS A LOT OF EXTRA INVESTMENT BY OTHERS. A COUPLE OF THE OTHERS, 590 02:58:42.278 --> 02:58:58.561 PLAYGROUND AGAIN, I THINK WHEN YOU GO TO NEED VERSUS WANT, OUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT, OUR BRICKS, I PUT BRICKS AND PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST OUR STREETS. HOW DO WE TAKE CARE OF OUR STREETS. THAT HAS TO BE A PRIORITY THAT'S KEY INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT WE GET 591 02:58:58.561 --> 02:59:14.810 COMMENTARY ALL THE TIME, CAN WE PUT MORE INTO IT. I THINK THAT'S HUGE, AND I DO THINK OUR FLEET BUILDING. I WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TOO. THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO LAST THE TEST OF TIME, MAYBE IT'S DUAL PURPOSE. 592 02:59:14.810 --> 02:59:33.295 IT'S STRENGTHED FOR OTHER EQUIPMENT. JUST SOME OF MY THOUGHTS. GOT A LOT OF LITTLE LEAGUERS THAT RUN THROUGH LITTLE LEAGUE, CONCESSION STAND THAT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER, THAT NEEDS TO BE IN SOME WAY RESTRUCTURED, SO I THINK THERE'S SOME GREAT PROJECTS IN HERE, AND THERE'S A 593 02:59:33.295 --> 02:59:49.011 LOT TO LOOK INTO IN TERMS OF OTHER THINGS, SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF GET THE NUMBERS DOWN, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS -- AND I ACTUALLY -- PINELLAS TRAIL, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE COUNTY GOING, BUT I THINK DOING PARTNERSHIP MONEY WITH THEM IS GREAT. AND SEEING IF WE CAN KIND OF GET 594 02:59:49.011 --> 03:00:07.630 THAT THING MOVING. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. >> GOT IT, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Freaney: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC INPUT, THANKS VERY MUCH, MY 595 03:00:07.630 --> 03:00:23.579 SHELL. AND OKAY. I THINK THAT'S IT FOR THAT ONE. ON THAT NOTE, JENNIFER, BEFORE WE DO CLOSE OUT, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE POOL, SINCE IT'S WAY -- WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE OPEN IN JUNE, THEN END OF 596 03:00:23.579 --> 03:00:39.295 JUNE, NOW IT'S INTO JULY. I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE STATUS OF THE POOL? >> TONY MALKE, PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR. THE POOL, WE'RE AWAITING A PART TO FIX A PUMP, WE HAVE IT CLEAR, WE HAVE IT BALANCED, WE'RE JUST NOT GETTING ENOUGH FLOW TO TURN 597 03:00:39.295 --> 03:00:56.045 OVER THE WATER ENOUGH TO MEET HEALTH CODE, WE HAD TO HAVE THE PUMPS REPLACED THIS YEAR, AFTER WE HAD A FLOOD THAT DAMAGED THE PREVIOUS PUMPS. THE NEW PUMPS HAD TO BE SPECIALLY SOURCED BECAUSE THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE POOL IS OLD, IT'S NOT A SUPPORTED 598 03:00:56.045 --> 03:01:11.627 CONFIGURATION ANY MORE, IT'S DIFFICULT TO SOURCE THOSE PARTS. THEY DID INSTALL THE REPLACEMENT MOTORS, AND ONE OF THEM FAILED. SO WE'RE AWAITING THE SERVICE ON THAT AND IT'S TAKING A LITTLE WHILE TO GET THE PART. 599 03:01:11.627 --> 03:01:26.909 >> Mayor Freaney: HOW MUCH HAVE WE PUT INTO IT? >> CURRENTLY THIS YEAR -- I'M GOING TO SAY PROBABLY AROUND 80,000, MAYBE A LITTLE HIGHER ON A FEW ITEMS ON THERE, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK SCHEDULED FOR THE OFFSEASON, 600 03:01:26.909 --> 03:01:43.058 JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COMPLIANT WITH HEALTH CODES, AND TO GET US THROUGH TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW POOL. >> Mayor Freaney: AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE SHOWING US COST BENEFIT OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THIS THING GOING UNTIL WE CAN ACTUALLY DO IT? >> YES. >> Mayor Freaney: DO A NEW POOL. 601 03:01:43.058 --> 03:01:59.641 >> YES. >> Mayor Freaney: THAT WILL BE GREAT, YOU'LL DO THAT DURING THE BUDGET. I FEEL BAD FOR THE LITTLE KIDS, IT'S SO HOT OUT THERE. I MEAN, THE LITTLE ONES CAN GO IN THE LITTLE KIDS POOL, BUT IT'S THE OLDER -- >> THE CAPACITY IS GREATLY 602 03:01:59.641 --> 03:02:16.258 DIMINISHED, AND WE CAN'T RUN SWIM LESSONS LIKE WE WOULD LIKE. THERE'S BEEN OUTREACH AND SOME -- NOT REMOTE, BUT SATELLITE PROGRAMMING WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH AT NEARBY SITES, BUT IT DEFINITELY IS A DISADVANTAGE THIS SUMMER. >> YEAH, I'VE BEEN TOLD SOME OF 603 03:02:16.258 --> 03:02:32.407 THE KIDS ARE RUNNING AROUND WITH THEIR FANS, IT'S JUST -- EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T GET A LOT OF TIME IN THE POOL, THEY GOT TIME IN THE POOL, AT LEAST ONCE A DAY. >> IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. >> Mayor Freaney: YES, IT DOES. >> I WOULD ENJOY AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW RELATIVE TO WHAT WE WOULD BE 604 03:02:32.407 --> 03:02:48.190 DOING ORDINARILY WITH A FULL FACILITY. WHAT PROGRAMS HAVE WE LOST, WHAT PROGRAMS ARE WE DEFERRING, TELL ME WHERE WE ARE ON THAT? >> GENERALLY, I CAN SAY THAT OUR CAMP PROGRAMS, WE'RE CREEPING UP ON HALFWAY THROUGH OUR SUMMER 605 03:02:48.190 --> 03:03:04.339 CAMPS, THEY WOULD BE UTILIZING THE POOL EVERY WEEK, WE CAN'T DO THAT. WE'VE HAD SOME ALTERNATIVE PROGRAMMING WITH LIKE WATER SLIDES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT THEY BROUGHT OUT, AND TAKEN THEM TO OTHER POOLS, WHICH ISN'T 606 03:03:04.339 --> 03:03:21.322 IDEAL, AND IT'S DISRUPTIVE TO THE PROGRAM. OTHER THINGS IS THE SWIM LESSONS, ESPECIALLY THE EARLY LEARNING TO SWIM TYPE THINGS FOR THE YOUNGEST, MOST CRITICAL, VULER INABLE POPULATION, WE HAD TO RESTRICT THAT TO A YOUNGER AGE THAN WE WOULD HAVE NORMALLY 607 03:03:21.322 --> 03:03:38.774 THIS SPRING AND SUMMER. AS WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY WITH THE SMALL POOL. WE WERE SCHEDULED TO START GENERAL SWIM LESSONS ON A WIDER SCALE YESTERDAY. WE WERE UNABLE TO DO THAT, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET THAT PART. AND WE'VE BEEN PRESSURING THE 608 03:03:38.774 --> 03:03:55.624 VENDOR TO KIND OF SOURCE THAT. AND WE'RE HOPING, AND ANTICIPATING THAT WILL BE VERY SOON. THE WATER'S AT LEAST CLEAR, IT LOOKS LIKE SPLIT PEA SOUP. IT LOOKS LIKE A SWAMP FOR A WHILE, THE STAFF HAS BEEN ABLE 609 03:03:55.624 --> 03:04:12.875 TO DO A GOOD JOB OF TURNING THAT OVER. OTHER ELEMENTS, WE DON'T HAVE AQUA FITNESS. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THE OTHER KIND OF OPEN SWIM OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY. NOW, HOPEFULLY AS EVERYTHING PROGRESSES, WE'LL BE READY FOR 610 03:04:12.875 --> 03:04:29.725 THE FALL SWIM SEASON FOR THE SCHOOLS, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT FALL SEASON AS SCHEDULED. >> THANK YOU. THAT'S A VERY QUICK AND ACCURATE. I THINK THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO PUT THIS UP FOR A WORK SESSION AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, SO 611 03:04:29.725 --> 03:04:47.643 WE CAN SEE WHAT OUR CHOICES ARE. WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE OUR MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM FOR A WHILE. WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO TO KEEP IT GOING OPTIMALLY, IS WHERE MY THOUGHTS GO. >> MAYOR, MAY I -- THAT'S THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS WE'RE GOING TO BRING TO ALL OF YOU AS 612 03:04:47.643 --> 03:05:07.829 PARTS OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. >> Mayor Freaney: RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE, OBVIOUSLY. >> I'M NOT SURE THAT BRINGS ATTENTION TO THIS PARTICULAR PROBLEM. IT CAN GET LOST QUICKLY INSIDE 613 03:05:07.829 --> 03:05:23.478 >> WE CAN PUT IT ON A REGULAR WORKSHOP. WE'VE GOT THOSE, BECAUSE IT IS -- I MEAN WHEN I FOUND OUT YESTERDAY IT WAS STILL CLOSED, I WAS LIKE OH, MY GOSH. I JUST REMEMBER YEAR AFTER YEAR HOW MUCH THOSE KIDS, IT'S PART OF THE CAMP, AND TO NOT HAVE A POOL WHEN IT'S SO HOT IS SO DEVASTATING. AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT, NOT YOUR FAULT, TONY. 614 03:05:23.478 --> 03:05:36.158 I MEAN, WE HAVE AN OLD POOL THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, DEALT WITH, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO. >> YEAH, IT IS, IT'S BEEN COMPOUNDED BY MULTIPLE CHALLENGES. IF IT WAS ONE ELEMENT, IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER, BUT YOU FIX ONE 615 03:05:36.158 --> 03:05:55.210 THING, AND SOMETHING ELSE BREAKS. >> I'M TRYING TO THINK OF OTHER WAYS -- FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN I CAME TO THE COMMISSION AND GOT THE TOUR OF THE POOL, IT WAS READILY APPARENT TO ME THAT THERE WAS NO MORE AMOUNT OF DUCT 616 03:05:55.210 --> 03:06:16.098 TAPE THAT COULD HOLD THIS THING TOGETHER. AND IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE BECAUSE THE POOL WAS BUILT IN THE 70s, AND YOU KNOW, IT IS. IT'S PROBABLY A LOT OF THAT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS OBSOLETE. 617 03:06:16.098 --> 03:06:31.880 I SWIM WITH A COUPLE OF GROUPS IN CLEARWATER, AND I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW THE FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE POOL. THAT THE POOL WORLD THERE, BUT HAVE WE REACHED OUT TO THEM AT ALL TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY ELEMENT OF ASSISTANCE THAT WE CAN GET WITH REGARDS TO THE 618 03:06:31.880 --> 03:06:48.163 OBSOLESCENCE MART PART OF THIS? >> WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY REACHED OUT TO LIKE THE SWIM TEAM GROUPS ON THAT. >> WELL, I WOULD GO MORE PROBABLY THE PARKS AND REC. >> YEAH, YES, THERE'S BEEN COMMUNICATION I KNOW OUR AQUATICS COORDINATOR HAS REACHED 619 03:06:48.163 --> 03:07:05.380 OUT TO SOME OTHER AREAS TO TRY -- ESPECIALLY WITH THE ENGAGEMENT OF VENDORS, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF VENDORS JUST SAY NO. >> YEAH, AND IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I MEAN, YEAH, UNDERSTANDABLE THAT -- IN CASE IN POINT, THE LONG CENTER, WHICH 620 03:07:05.380 --> 03:07:17.392 JUST RECENTLY IS COMPLETING A HUGE RENOVATION WAS IN VERY SIMILAR SHAPE. THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE BUILT IN THE 70s NOT -- ANYWAY, BUT I'M JUST, JUST THINKING OUT LOUD AND 621 03:07:17.392 --> 03:07:38.580 APPRECIATE THE RESPONSE. >> MAYOR FREANEY: THANKS, TONY. WE WON'T KILL THE MESSENGER. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? OKAY. WELL I JUST WANT TO, SINCE I 622 03:07:38.580 --> 03:07:54.730 WON'T BE HERE THURSDAY NIGHT, VICE MAYOR WILL BE RUNNING THE MEETING, I WILL BE WITH FLORIDA LEAGUE OF MAYORS, I DID JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY INVOLVED WITH HOMETOWN USA. I THOUGHT IT WAS EXCEPTIONAL. OUR PARKS AND REC STAFF, ALL THE OTHER STAFF, THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE INVOLVED EVEN JULIA'S 623 03:07:54.730 --> 03:08:11.613 BACK THERE AND FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND SHE WAS INVOLVED WITH THE PARADE AND VFW WITH THE, WITH THE GOLF CART PARADE AND JESSICA FREEMAN WHO DOES A FANTASTIC JOB. I MEAN, I JUST, EVERY LEVEL IT WAS GREAT, AND THE YOU KNOW THE LEVEL OF THE BAND AT THE 624 03:08:11.613 --> 03:08:27.195 STADIUM, THE KIDS STUFF, SEEING THE KIDS' FACES GET PAINTED, THE MOVIE, AND THEN JUST A PACKED HOUSE FOR THE FIREWORKS. THE FIREWORKS WERE GREAT, FOUND OUT AFTER THE FIREWORKS THAT THE MUSIC, WELL, I KNEW THE MUSIC WAS GREAT AND I FOUND OUT OUR REC AND PARKS DIRECTOR DID THE MUSIC TO GO ALONG WITH THE 625 03:08:27.195 --> 03:08:43.545 FIREWORKS WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A, A GREAT SIDE TALENT. I LOVE THAT. >> MULTITALENTED, WHO KNEW. >> MULTITALENTED, THAT'S AWESOME. BUT SINCE I WON'T BE ABLE TO SAY IT ON THURSDAY I WANT TO SAY IT WAS A GREAT 250TH AMERICA CELEBRATION AND OUR WONDERFUL 626 03:08:43.545 --> 03:09:01.530 COMMUNITY OF DUNEDIN. SO TANKS TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO MADE IT HAPPEN AND PASS THAT ONTO ALL YOUR STAFF, TONY, PLEASE. >> MAYOR FREANEY: ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. SO I THINK WE'RE -- >> IF YOU DON'T MIND. ONE I THINK, MAYOR THE ENTIRE 627 03:09:01.530 --> 03:09:16.945 COMMISSION ECHOES YOUR COMMENTS ON 250. WE DID A GREAT JOB BUT JUST WANTING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CITY OF DUNEDIN PIPE BAND WHO WENT TO IRELAND WHO WENT TO COMPETE IN THE ALL IRELAND COMPETITION AND THEY GOT BEST DRUM CORPS, THEY 628 03:09:16.945 --> 03:09:35.997 GOT BEST MIDSECTION, AND THEY GOT BEST M&D WHICH IS MARCH AND DRESS. BUT OVERALL, THEY CAME IN S ECOND, SO THEY ARE SECOND FOR ALL THE BANDS THAT COMPETED IN THE ALL IRELAND, AND THAT REALLY 629 03:09:35.997 --> 03:09:54.415 FRUSTRATED THEM, ANGERED THEM, WHICH MAYBE IS WHAT THEY NEED AS THEY LOOK TOWARDS THE WORLD IN AUGUST IN GLASGOW. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE CITY OF DUNEDIN PIPE BAND. WELL PLAYED AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO RESULTS 630 03:09:54.415 --> 03:10:09.998 >> MAYOR FREANEY: AWESOME. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? OKAY. SO AND THANK YOU, NOAH FOR BEING HERE, IN PLACE OF JEN TODAY, AND WE WILL -- [LAUGHTER] WE ARE NOW GOING TO GO, I KNOW WE SHOULD'VE HAD SOME REALLY TOUGH LEGAL QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT SO WE'RE GOING TO JOIN THE 631 03:10:09.998 --> 03:10:12.467 MEETING AND GO BACK TO THE SOME 632 03:10:12.467 --> 03:10:59.981 BIRTHDAY CAKE FOR VICE MAYOR.