>> WELCOME TO OUR JULY 9th, 2026 CITY COMMISSION MEETING. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. >> TODAY THE CITY ASKS THAT WE ALL TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE TO
REMEMBER JACK VALHALA. HE REPRESENTED THE CITY FROM 2010 TO 2018, HE PASSED AWAY YESTERDAY AT 74 YEARS OLD, PLEASE JOIN US TO EXTEND OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TO HIS
FAMILY AND FRIENDS. [ MOMENT OF SILENCE ] >> THANK YOU. NOW WE WILL DO THE PLEDGE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE
FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> VICE MAYOR: MAYOR FREANEY IS NOT WITH US TONIGHT, SHE IS ATTENDING THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF MAYORS ROUNDTABLE. YOU ALL ARE STUCK WITH ME TONIGHT. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE MAYOR FREANEY'S ABSENCE? >> SO MOVED.
>> SECOND. >> VICE MAYOR: COMMISSIONER GOW AND COMMISSIONER DUGARD. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE.
>> VICE MAYOR: AND THAT PASSES 4-0, THANK YOU. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT, SO BEFORE WE GET INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA, DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN INPUT. DOES ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH
TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. PLEASE COME FORWARD.
>> DAVID GEDDES, JR., I LIVE ON GEORGIA AVENUE IN PALM HARBOR. OUR GOVERNMENT APPEARS TO BE MADE OF VARIOUS BODIES, THE SENATE IS A GOVERNMENTAL BODY,
LEGISLATION IS A POLITICAL BODY. OUR LOCAL COUNTY COMMISSION SERVES AS A BODY POLITIC, COLLECTIVELY, EACH BODY OF GOVERNMENT IS EXPECTED TO PERFORM CERTAIN FUNCTIONS THAT IS ESSENTIAL, AND VITAL TO OUR
SURVIVAL AS A CIVILIZATION, CONGRESS, THE SENATE, LEGISLATION TO INCLUDE THE CITY COMMISSION, ARE ALL IN A POSITION TO ARTICULATE THE REQUIRED NEEDS OF SOCIETY USEFULLY AS THEY HOPEFULLY
PERFORM THEIR RESPECTIVE DUTIES PROD PRODUCTIVELY, THE VARIOUS BODIES OF GOVERNMENT, BETWEEN THEMSELVES ON MATTERS OF REASONABLY FOR SEEN, AND EXPECTED DUTIES IN GOVERNMENT. BETWEEN THEM, THEY CONCEIVE AND
BIRTH MATTERS OF IMPORTANCE THAT ENHANCE OUR SURVIVAL OVER ALL. WE AS TAXPAYERS FUND THE GOVERNMENT, EXPECTING THESE BODIES IN GOVERNMENT TO RECOURSE
THEIR REQUIRED DUTY IN A STRAIGHTFORWARD MANNER. WE DON'T PAY TAXES SO LEGISLATION CAN PLACE IN MOTION ITS WILL TO PERFORM ITS RESPONSIBILITY DAILY, SERVING ITS INDIVIDUAL DESIRES, IN
PARTICULAR, PROACTIVELY ENGAGING IN ISSUES AND CIRCUMSTANCES, DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE VARIOUS BODIES IN GOVERNMENT ARE BEING PRODUCTIVE IN BIRTHING MATTERS OF STRAIGHTFORWARD CONCERN SERVING THE NEEDS OF SOCIETY AS A WHOLE.
SHOULD OUR GOVERNMENT BE MAKING A MOCHRIE OF THE GAY CIVILIAN POPULATION AS ITS WAY OF JUSTIFYING ITS POLITICAL PRIDEFUL POLITICAL OBJECTIVES,
SUPPORTING ROGUE LEGISLATION, REVERSE ENGINEERING GOVERNMENT, IN INSURRECTING THE GOVERNMENT. I FIND SUCH MOCHRIE OF THE CIVILIAN POPULATION TO BE
DISGRACEFUL AND TASTELESS. SUCH PRIDEFUL POLITICAL DESIRES IN GOVERNMENT TO GAIN SUCH CONSENT IS REFLECTIVE OF PERJURY. AND SUCH PRIDE IS TO BE STRAIGHTFORWARDLY DENOUNCED, SWEEPINGLY SO.
FURTHERMORE, THE STREET SIGNAGE ON THE CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL IS INFLUENCING SEXUAL CONDUCT OF MINORS, PROMOTING GAY SEXUAL CONDUCT AS A WAY OF INFLUENCING UNDER AGED CHILDREN IN THE HIGH SCHOOL.
I FIND THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR THAT QUALIFIES FOR EX-COMMUNICATION AND THOSE POLITICIANS AND EVEN THE LIBRARY TO ITSELF TO BE CALLED UP FOR JUDGMENT ON THAT. >> VICE MAYOR: TIME'S UP.
>> TO BE CALLED UP FOR JUDGMENT ON THAT. >> VICE MAYOR: YOUR TIME'S UP, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> JASON SHIBERT. RANCH WOOD DRIVE, THAT'S WHERE THE PARTY IS AT, YOU GUYS WANT COPIES?
>> YES, GIVE THEM TO THE CITY CLERK. >> I HAVE TEN MINUTES ON THE CLOCK, I'VE NEVER HAD TEN MINUTES ON THE CLOCK. THIS IS FROM THE RESTAURANTS, BARS AND BREWERIES OF DOWNTOWN
DUNEDIN, DEAR MAYOR FREANEY, WHO'S NOT HERE TODAY, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE THE OWNERS AND OPERATORS OF THE BARS, CAFES AND BREWERIES THAT FILL DOWNTOWN DUNEDIN WITH MUSIC, LAUGHTER, WE ARE WRITING
TO YOU NOT AS INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES BUT ONE VOICE, NEIGHBORS WHO LOVE THIS CITY, WHO HAVE BUILT OUR LIVES AND LIVELIHOODS HERE, AND BELIEVE WITH EVERYTHING WE HAVE THAT DUNEDIN'S BEST DAYS ARE STILL AHEAD. PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS LETTER FOR
WHAT IT IS. AN OLIVE BRANCH AND OPEN HAND. EVERY ONE OF US HAS STOOD WITH THE CITY THROUGH EVERY INITIATIVE YOU ASKED US TO SUPPORT, FESTIVALS, ROAD CLOSURES, CONSTRUCTION SEASONS, PARKING CHANGES, STREET SCAPE PROJECTS, STORMS AND LONG
RECOVERIES, WE HAVE SAID YES AGAIN AND AGAIN. WITH HELENE AND MILTON HIT, WE GOT OUR NEIGHBORS FED, WE SHOW UP, WE SPONSOR, WE VOLUNTEER, WE DO IT BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN THIS TOWN AND IN THE PEOPLE WHO RUN IT ALONGSIDE US, WE HOPE YOU'LL
RECEIVE THE NEXT PART OF THIS IN THE SAME SPIRIT OF TRUST. WE HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU ABOUT WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW, CONSUMER CONFIDENCE IS DOWN, TOURISM IS DOWN, EVERY FAMILY IN OUR COMMUNITY, INCLUDING OUR OWN EMPLOYEES AND THEIR CHILDREN ARE FEELING THE SQUEEZE.
WE'RE WATCHING OUR NEIGHBORS PULL AHEAD, SAFETY HARBOR, LARGO AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE ACTIVELY COURTING THE VISITORS AND DOLLARS THAT USED TO BE OURS. WE REFUSE TO LET DUNEDIN'S MAGIC TO SLIP ABAY TO INERTIA.
WE KNOW THE CITY IS ARE CARRYING REAL HEAD WINDS OF ITS OWN. AS YOU SHARED AT THIS YEAR'S STATE OF THE CITY, WE COULD ELIMINATE AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX ISSUE. WE DON'T RAISE THIS TO ALARM ANYONE, WE RAISE IT BECAUSE WE
THINK WE COULD BE PART OF THE ANSWER. THE PROPOSALS ARE DESIGNED TO BRING PEOPLE BACK DOWNTOWN AND CREATE NEW RECURRING REVENUE FOR THE CITY THAT DOES NOT DEPEND ON PROPERTY TAXES. PROPOSAL 1, A DOWNTOWN OPEN CONTAINER HOSPITALITY DISTRICT
WITH THE CITY AS A PARTNER AND BENEFICIARY. OPEN CONTAINER CONSULTS WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT ERA MUCH LIKE
LARGO BRANDED FOR THEIR SIP AND STROLL SECTION. HERE'S EXACTLY HOW THE RULES WOULD WORK, MIRRORING LARGO AND THE DISTRICTS ALREADY RUNNING IN GAINESVILLE AND ALONG TAMPA'S
RIVERWALK, A CLEARLY DESIGNATED AREA, ONLY THOSE WITH PROPER LICENSES MAY TAKE PART. GUESTS OF LEGAL DRINKING AGE MAY CARRY NO MORE THAN TWO DRINKS AT A TIME, AND IT REMAINS ILLEGAL
TO WALK THE DISTRICT WITH ALCOHOL, CANS OR BOTTLES. LARGO, FOR EXAMPLE, RUNS 8:00 A.M. TOO 11:00 P.M. WEDNESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY. THE CITY KEEPS ITS HAND ON THE DIAL AT EVERY STEP.
FROM WHO PARTICIPATES TO WHAT IS POURED TO WHEN THE DISTRICT IS OPEN. THE SCALE IS REAL, DOWNTOWN FOOD AND BEVERAGE BUSINESSES INSIDE THE CRA GENERATE AN ESTIMATED 70 TO $80 MILLION IN SALES RIGHT NOW.
A WELL STRUCTURED CUP PROGRAM COULD MOVE AN ADDITIONAL 500,000 CITY CUPS ANNUALLY. THAT'S A BRAND NEW NONPROPERTY TAX REVENUE STREAM THAT COSTS THE CITY ALMOST NOTHING TO LAUNCH. WE HAVE ASKED EVERY OPERATOR TO BRING THEIR TOP LINE SALES AND
PROJECTED CUP USAGE TO THE TABLE SO WE CAN HAND YOU REAL FIGURES. NOT GUESSES. THIS IS SQUARELY WITHIN THE CITY'S OWN POWER TO GRANT. MUCH OF THE FRAMEWORK IS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS. FLORIDA HAS NO STATE LAW THAT BANS AN ADULT FROM CARRYING A
DRINK ON FOOT. THE CITY CODE MAKES OPEN CO CONTAINER CONSULTS ON CITY STREETS UNLAWFUL ONLY UNTIL A LETTER OF PERMISSION IS OBTAINED, AND THAT SECTION ALREADY AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE TO PERMIT
OPEN CONTAINERS ON CONSULTS FOR EVENTS. THE SECOND FRIDAY COULD MOVE THROUGH THIS WITH NO CODE CHANGES AT ALL. TO MAKE AN EVERY DAY OPEN CONTAINER DISTRICT PERMANENT, THERE WOULD BE A DOWNTOWN
DISTRICT EXCEPTION, SITTING RIGHT ALONGSIDE THE CARVEOUTS, THE SECTION ALREADY CONTAINS FOR THE MARINA AND CITY FACILITY CONCES CONCESSIONAIRES, THE EXISTING AIRS OF SALE RULE AND SECTION 6-32, ALREADY ALLOWS SERVICE
BETWEEN K508 A.M. TO 3:00 A.M. THIS IS THE SAME PATH LARGO, GAINESVILLE AND TAMPA HAVE ALREADY WALKED, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING UNTESTED, WE WILL HELP DRAFT THE AMENDMENT, AND FUND AND DESIGN THE BRANDED
CUPS, SO THE PROGRAM IS ALREADY TO RUN FROM DAY ONE. PROPOSAL 2, WE WANT TO REVIVE THE SECOND FRIDAY TRADITION AND MAKE IT UNMISTAKABLY OURS. OUR MODEL IS SAFETY HARBOR'S
THIRD FRIDAY. WE WOULD ASK FOR MAIN STREET TO BE CLOSED TO TRAFFIC. A UNIFIED SPECIAL RUNNING ACROSS EVERY PARTICIPATING RESTAURANT AND BAR. WHETHER IT'S A $10 BURGER NIGHT
OR SIGNATURE POUR. LOCAL STREET VENDORS AND A NIGHT MARKET LINING THE STREET. AN INVITATION TO SET UP AND BE PART OF THE CELEBRATION, SO THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN FAMILY SHARES IN THE NIGHT. WE PROPOSE DIVIDING DOWNTOWN
INTO CORRIDORS, POOLS OF NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES THAT WOULD JOINTLY FUND LIVE MUSIC AND STREET PERFORMERS. SO EVERY BLOCK HAS ITS OWN ENERGY AND NO ONE CARRIES THE COST ALONE. WE WANT TO THROW A GREAT STREET
PARTY ON THE SECOND FRIDAY OF EVERY MONTH. WE WANT TO BRING FUNEDIN BACK. NONE OF THIS WORKS WITHOUT YOU. WE DON'T THINK THE CITY'S NEXT CHAPTER WORKS WITHOUT US EITHER. WE'RE ASKING THE CITY TO PARTNER
WITH US, TO ZONE THE CRA FOR OPEN CONTAINER, TO RUN THE BRANDED CUP PROGRAM, AND HELP CLEAR A WORKABLE PERMITTING PATH FOR SECOND FRIDAY, WE'LL BRING THE BUSINESS, THE ENERGY, THE SPECIALS, THE ENTERTAINMENT AND DATA. WE WILL DO THE HEAVY LIFTING,
WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU IS PARTNERSHIP AND YOUR BLESSING TO BEGIN. WE LOVE THIS CITY, WE CHOSE IT, WE INVESTED IN IT, AND WE ARE RAISING OUR FAMILIES AND BUILDING OUR FUTURES ON THESE STREETS. WE ARE EXTENDING OUR HAND, BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY
ALONGSIDE YOU THAN WATCH IT DRIFT TO THE TOWN NEXT DOOR. LET'S MAKE DUNEDIN THE PLACE IN TAMPA BAY EVERYONE WANTS TO BE ON A FRIDAY NIGHT AGAIN. WITH GRATITUDE, RESPECT AND EVERY OUNCE OF LOVE FOR DUNEDIN, THE OWNERS AND OPERATORS OF
BECAUSER'S, THE BLACK PEARL, BLUR NIGHTCLUB, BONN APPETITE, CLEAR SKY DROUGHT HAUS, CROWN AND BULL, DUNEDIN BREWERY, DUNEDIN HOUSE OF BEER, THE
SMOKEHOUSE, FLANAGANS, HOB BREWING COMPANY, HOG ISLAND FISH CAMP, THE HONU. JACK POE LEINO'S PIZZA. LANE'S LEMONADE, LUCKY LOBSTER COMPANY, MANGO'S AND MAJERLE,
OLD BAY CAFE, THE PATIO, PICES SUSHI, SOUNDER SOCIAL CLUB, STERLING WINE, UNREFINED BREWING, WILD IRIS CAFE AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE.
THANK YOU. >> VICE MAYOR: THANK YOU, JASON. CITY MANAGER, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS? >> I HAVEN'T SEE ALL OF YOU AGREE ON ANYTHING LIKE THIS FOR
A LONG TIME. ALL OF YOU AT THE SAME TIME, THAT'S IMPRESSIVE. THANK YOU. THAT'S AN EXTREMELY WELL THOUGHT OUT LETTER, AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE POWER OF DOWNTOWN IN OUR CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS THIS EVENING.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE, SOMEWHAT. NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. I'M KIDDING. I THINK VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, THE BEST THING TO DO IS FOR STAFF TOO ABSORB THIS, IF WE MAY, TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN OTHER CITIES, AND TO WORK WITH SOME OF THESE
ESTABLISHMENTS, AND THEN PROBABLY WORKSHOP THIS ITEM WITH THE CITY COMMISSION, BRING AS MUCH INFORMATION TO YOU AS WE CAN, DISCUSS IT, AND GET CONSENSUS DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHATEVER IT IS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE, TO MOVE FORWARD AT ALL OR TO MOVE
FORWARD WITH SOMETHING. IN TERMS OF THE SECOND FRIDAY, THERE ARE SOME OTHER FACTORS INVOLVED IN THE SECOND FRIDAY, SO WE CAN CERTAINLY DIGEST THIS AND DO OUR RESEARCH AND GET BACK TO YOU AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. I UNDERSTAND THE SUMMER HAS BEEN
A VERY DIFFICULT SUMMER FOR SOME OF OUR ESTABLISHMENTS, IT'S HOT, NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVING AROUND. SO WE'LL GET TO WORK ON THIS, IF THAT IS YOUR DIRECTIN, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. >> THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE FOR CITIZEN'S INPUT? PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM? >> GOOD EVENING VICE MAYOR. COMMISSIONERS AND CITY MANAGER.
>> CAN YOU PLEASE REPEAT YOUR NAME. IS YOUR MICROPHONE ON? >> NO, MY VOICE IS DOWN HERE. >> REPEAT YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> CAN WE START THE 3:00 MINUTES. >> WE'LL START RIGHT YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
>> MARY SKINNER LORAINE. I LISTENS WITH GREAT INTEREST. A FEW DAYS AGO, ON YOUR DISCUSSION TO IMPROVE THE SHORE LINE ALONG ALTERNATE 19.
I THOUGHT YOUR LISTENERS MIGHT ENJOY LEARNING A LITTLE OF THE HISTORY BEHIND THESE TWO SECTIONS, ESPECIALLY MR. SANDBERGEN, I THINK YOU EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN THE PIPE.
IN 1941, JUICE INDUSTRIES, LOCATED WEST -- WE WERE STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP FOR DEMAND FOR CITRUS JUICE. ONE OF THE FACTORY'S GREATEST CHALLENGES WAS DISPOSING OF THE
TONS OF ORANGE PEEL LEFT OVER FROM PROCESSING. THE COMPANY DID NOT YET HAVE A FEED MEAL, THE PEEL WAS DUMPED INTO BRICK YARD CREEK. AT THAT TIME, THE CREEK EXTENDED FROM THE BAY, JUST NORTH OF
BLANCHLEY HOUSE. IT CONTINUED EAST PAST THE AREA THAT IS NOW PINELLAS TRAIL. BRICK YARD CREEK HAS SINCE BEEN FILLED IN. ONCE THE CREEK BECAME FILLED WITH ORANGE PEEL, THE COMPANY NEEDED ANOTHER SOLUTION, SO BC
SKINNER, GRANDFATHER, OWNER OF THE FACTORY, HIRED A CONTRACTOR TO INSTALL A 36 INCH PIPELINE, EXTENDING APPROXIMATELY 1,400 FEET INTO ST. JOSEPH SOUND, TO ALLOW TRUCK SUCCESS AND MAINTAIN THE PIPELINE.
A 10 FOOT WIDE DOCK WAS CONSTRUCTED DIRECTLY ABOVE IT. AT THE END OF THE PIPELINE, WAS A 34 INCH PROPELLER, POWERED BY 100 HORSEPOWER, 440 VOLT ELECTRIC MOTOR. THE PROPELLER'S PURPOSE WAS TO
PUSH THE ORANGE PEEL FURTHER OUT INTO THE BAY, RATHER THAN ALLOW IT TO ACCUMULATE AROUND THE PIPE'S DISCHARGE POINT. FLORIDA POWER ALSO INSTALLED A LINE OF UTILITY POLES ALONG THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE DOCK, TO PROVIDE ELECTRICITY TO THE
MOTOR. UNFORTUNATELY, ORANGE PEEL WAS NOT THE ONLY MATERIAL DISCHARGED THROUGH THE PIPELINE, WASTEWATER FROM WASHING THE FACTORY AND DETERGENTS USED TO CLEAN THE PLANT ALSO FLOWED INTO THE BAY. THE COMBINED EFFORT, SEVERELY DAMAGED THE MARINE ECOSYSTEM,
DESTROYING THE FISH HABITAT, AS WELL AS CLAMS, SCALLOPS AND OYSTERS, IT SERVES AS A REMINDER OF WHY ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION LAWS HAVE BECOME SO IMPORTANT. AFTER MORE THAN 65 YEARS, IT'S GRATIFYING TO SEE OUR CITY TAKING STEPS TO RESTORE THIS AREA.
AND I BELIEVE THE PIPELINE IS STILL THE ORIGINAL PIPELINE BUILT IN 1941, BUT THE DOCK IS NEW DOCK, AND IT'S ONLY 6 FEET WIDE AND HIGHER. THEY NEEDED THE TRUCKS TO GO RIGHT ALONG THE PIPELINE TO
CLEAN IT OUT. >> VICE MAYOR: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> VICE MAYOR: ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO PROVIDE CITIZEN'S INPUT? HEARING NONE, SEEING NONE. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE
CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS HERE, 2A APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE MAY 21st, REGULAR MEETING, JUNE 2nd WORKSHOP, JUNE 4th REGULAR MEETING. BOARD AND COMMITTEE MOMENTS FOR
THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AWARD OF INVITE TO BID, NO. 26-2607, HAMMOCK BOARD WALK REPLACEMENT PROJECT TO PRICE MARINE CONSTRUCTION IN THE
AMOUNT OF 152,000. 2D AH, PROVAL OF THE CITY'S RETIREMENT PLAN. TO REVISE THE CURRENT FEE STRUCTURE. 2E, RENEWAL OF THE TRAFFIC
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN PINELLAS COUNTY AND THE CITY OF DUNEDIN, 2F, APROVAL OF THE CHANGE ORDER TO BID 26-2602 FOR AN INCREASE
OF $95,000 TO CARDINAL FENCE. BEFORE WE GO TO A MOTION, ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO PULL? >> I'D LIKE TO PULL 2F, ONE QUESTION AND COMMENTS. >> VICE MAYOR, 2C.
SAME. >> VICE MAYOR: OKAY CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE 2A, 2B, 2D, 2E. >> SO MOVED.
>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> OPPOSED? THAT PASSES 4-0. ALL RIGHT, 2C. JUST A CLARIFICATION OR FULL
PRESENTATION? >> I HAVE A SPECULATIVE QUESTION, THANK YOU, TONY VERY MUCH. $152,000 PLUS FOR THIS. IF THE PROPERTY TAX ISSUE PASSES
IN NOVEMBER, WHAT WOULD THIS ITEM LOOK LIKE A YEAR FROM NOW? WHERE WOULD WE GET THE MONEY? WOULD THIS BE AN ITEM? >> WE'RE STILL -- >> YEAH, WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH A LOT OF THE NUMBERS OF
WHAT THE IMPACTS COULD BE, SO THIS WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE SCHEDULED, JUST LOOKING AT THE INITIAL NUMBERS. BUT IT WOULD BE LOSS OF AN AMENITY, BECAUSE THE BOARD WALK CURRENTLY AS IT STANDS OUT THERE IS NOT SAFE, AND IT WOULD HAVE
TO BE BLOCKED OFF FROM THE PUBLIC. >> ALL RIGHT, SO IF ANYBODY IS CONSIDERING, AND HOPEFULLY YOU ALL ARE CONSIDERING THE VOTE IN NOVEMBER, KEEP THAT IN MIND, THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE SOME THINGS. THANK YOU.
THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. >> VICE MAYOR: ANY PUBLIC INPUT ON 2C? THE BOARD WALK REPLACEMENT PROJECT. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, THREE MINUTES. >> DAVID BALLARD GEDDES, JR., I
LIVE IN PALM HARBOR. IS THIS IN REFERENCE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INTERLOCAL COMPACT THAT THE COUNTY HAS WITH THE CITY? >> NO. >> OKAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AD VALOREM?
>> OKAY. >> I DIDN'T MEAN TO ENGAGE THE SPEAKER. >> BECAUSE I GOT LOST IN THE MINUTIA HERE. >> YEAH, WOULD YOU ANSWER? >> SORRY ABOUT THAT. WE WOULD USE AD VALOREM FUNDS TO PAY FOR THIS REPAIR.
>> AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, THE COUNTY ITSELF, IF YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AS A PROPERTY OLD HOLDING, AS THOUGH, I WOULD OWN A HOME. THE COUNTY, BASED ON RESOLUTION 95-286 STATING ABSOLUTE BILL OF
SALE, FULL WARRANTIES OF TITLE AND RELEASE OF LIEN, THE ENTIRE COUNTY ITSELF HAS BEEN SOLD TO THE WATER -- >> EXCUSE ME,YOUR MICROPHONE ON, DAVID? >> YOUR PINELLAS COUNTY -- YOUR
PINELLAS COUNTY AS A SENSE, AS A REAL ESTATE HOLDING, HAS BEEN SOLD TO THE DISTRICT. NOW, OVER A 30 YEAR PROCESS, THE DISTRICT IS GOING TO RECONFIG THE CITY, THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS, AND REFRANCHISE
THEM OUT AS WATER JURISDICTIONS, HENCE THE NAUN AD VALOREM PORTION ON THE BOTTOM OF YOUR AD VALOREM WILL RISE INTO POWER YOUR AD VALOREM PORTION WILL BE GONE. IT WILL REBIRTH ITSELF AS A
NONAD VALOREM IN THE FORM OF A LEVY, NOT AS A PROPERTY TAX LIEN. A SHAPE SHIFTING OF GOVERNMENTS TAKING PLACE FROM A LAND BASED GOVERNMENT TO A WATERSHED GOVERNMENT. I'LL PROBABLY SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THIS THE NEXT MEETING.
BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THE FORMS OF TAXATION, AS FAR AS PROPERTY TAX LIENS, IN THE FORM OF AD VALOREM, VERSUS A NONAD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX LEVY, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN
ISSUE IN TRYING TO GET THE KEY IN THE KEY HOLE, SO TO SPEAK. LEVYS AREN'T GOING TO FLY IN THE FACE OF THE CIVILIAN POPULATION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> DR. CARRIE O'BRIEN, 1798 PATRICIA AVENUE, FRIENDS OF THE HAMMOCK, PRESIDENT AS WELL. I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER TO THE CITY FOR THE BOARD WALK, IF THERE'S ANYTHING, FRIENDS OF THE HAMMOCK COULD DO, GRANT WRITING, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE WOULD LOVE TO ASSIST IN ANYWAY, AS YOU
KNOW, WE CERTAINLY ARE OUT THERE TALKING ABOUT THE TAX AND WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IF PROPERTY TAXES ARE CUT TO OUR WONDERFUL PARK. I PUT FORTH ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP. >> VICE MAYOR: THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ANY ADDITIONAL CITIZENS INPUT FOR ITEM 2C. SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO 2F. >> LET'S GET A MOTION FOR 2C. >> VICE MAYOR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> SO MOVED.
>> SECOND. >> VICE MAYOR: COMMISSIONER DUGARD AND COMMISSION GOW. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE? >> AYE. >> VICE MAYOR: ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES 4-0.
>> YEAH, THIS WAS REAL QUICK FOR JOE AND TONY. I UNDERSTAND THIS IS FOR FIELD 7, CORRECT? AM I RIGHT ON THAT? FIELD 7, IS THAT SET UP FOR THE JUNIORS? IS THAT FIELD A LITTLE BIT BIG SUMMER. >> YES, THAT'S OUR LARGER FIELD.
THAT'S ABOUT 285 FEET, COMPARED TO 200 IS THE OTHER ONES. >> IT'S BIGGER THAN LITTLE LEAGUE FIELDS? >> YES. >> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE TIME I SPENT UP THERE, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE, THESE FENCES MAKE IT
SAFE FOR THE KIDS, FOR THE FANS, WILL THIS ALSO INCLUDE A BATTER'S EYE IN A HIGHER -- BEHIND HOME PLATE, TO STOP FOUL BALLS. >> THE BIRD'S EYE WILL BE EXTENDED BIGGER THAN THE OTHER FIELDS.
IT'S ALSO GOING TO INCLUDE THE BATTING CAGE ON THE THIRD BASE SIDE, WHICH IS A BIG CHUNK OF EXTRA MONEY ON THE OTHER FIELDS. THE TALLER FENCING WILL GO FROM 3rd BASE, ALL THE WAY TO ROUGHLY 1st BASE. >> OKAY. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A SECOND TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UP HERE. AND EVERYONE IN THE ROOM, YEAH, THIS IS A FEW EXTRA DOLLARS, THIS IS PURELY FOR THE SAFETY OF EVERYONE INVOLVED. THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING FORWARD WITH THAT. >> MAY I?
>> VICE MAYOR: YOU SURE MAY. >> WHERE ARE THE FUNDS FOR THIS PROJECT COMING FROM? >> THESE WERE BUDGETED FUNDS THROUGH THE GENERAL FUNDS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. >> WHAT FUND IS THE GENERAL FUND? >> AD VALOREM. >> DID THAT ANSWER YOUR
QUESTION? >> YES, SIR. >> VICE MAYOR: ANY PUBLIC INPUT ON ITEM 2F? CHANGE ORDER TO CARDINAL FENCE FOR $95,000.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> CHARLIE OLSON, DOWNING PLACE, PALM HARBOR, FLORIDA. I WANT TO HONESTLY SAY THANK YOU OFTEN BEHALF OF THE DUNEDIN LITTLE LEAGUE, FOR ALL THE SUPPORT THE CITY HAS PROVIDED,
THANK YOU JOE, FROM PARKS & REC AS WELL. I WANTED TO SAY THAT. I KNOW WE INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN THE FENCES CURRENTLY. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT HELPING FIX THE LIGHTS AS WELL ON OUR SIDE. MORE IMPORTANTLY, I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE
LEAGUE AND EVERYONE ELSE. >> VICE MAYOR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC INPUT? ALL RIGHT. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.
>> ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES 4-0. >> THANK YOU. >> VICE MAYOR: WE'RE GOING TO
MOVE ON TO ACTION ITEMS. FIRST UP IS 3A, THIS IS A LONG ONE. APPLICATION AN/LUP/ZO-2026-0001. VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION, LAND USE
PLAN AMENDMENT, ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1991 SPANISH PINES DRIVE. THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE 26-02, VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY OF DUNEDIN. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE
26-03, LAND USE PLANNED AMENDMENT TO RESIDENTIAL LOW. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE 26-04, ZONING DISTRICT DESIGNATION TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. WE WILL HAVE ONE PRESENTATION OF THE STAFF, BUT ONE OR MORE OF
THOSE ORDINANCES ARE QUASI JUDICIAL, THEREFORE, THE CITY CLERK, COULD YOU SWEAR IN THOSE THAT WILL BE SPEAKING. [ SWEARING-IN ] >> VICE MAYOR: BRINGING IT BACK
TO THE COMMISSION, DOES ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION NEED TO DISCLOSE EX PARTE CONTACT FOR THE RECORD? SEEING NONE. ORDINANCE 26-02, ANNEXATION, NOAH PLEASE READ ORDINANCE 26-02
BY TITLE ONLY. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DUNEDIN, FLORIDA, ANNEXING CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY. PARCEL 1328-1584-576000-00340.
TOTALLY APPROXIMATELY .24 ACRES INTO THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY, PROVIDING FOR FILING WITH THE CLERK OF COURT AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> VICE MAYOR: THANK YOU, NOAH. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE
ORDINANCE 26-02 ON THE SECOND READING? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER DUGARD, COMMISSIONER GOW. ALL RIGHT, OVER TO YOU, GEORGE. >> VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU. GEORGE KINNEY, AS IS CUSTOMARY,
I'LL READ THROUGH THE PRODUCT FOR ALL THREE ORDINANCES, AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE YOUR MOTIONS INDIVIDUALLY AT THE END. PROPERTY OWNERS IN THIS CASE, ARE JAMES AND JEAN DAVIS WHO RESIDE ON THE PROPERTY AT 1991
SPANISH PINES DRIVE. YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, LOT 34 ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SPANISH PINES. THE SPANISH PINES SUBDIVISION WAS PLATTED IN SEPTEMBER OF 1975, AND AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THE
PLAT AND THE OUTLINE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THE DAY THIS PROPERTY, IS LOT 34, DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE BUILT IN 1976, THEY PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY IN AUGUST OF 2001, THERE'S A STREET GOOGLE VIEW YOU
CAN SEE OF THE NICE HOMESTEAD THAT EXISTS ON THE PROPERTY. THE SPANISH PINES ENCLAVE AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE MAP TO THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS WITHIN THE DUNEDIN PLANNING AREA, WHERE ANNEXATION IS ENVISIONED AND SUPPORTED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN. IT'S BICICLY THE SECOND LOT WITHIN THAT SUBDIVISION TO ANNEX. YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY WHERE IT'S SOUTH OF CURLEW AND WEST OF BELCHER. FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT, IT'S THE LAND USE THAT ALREADY EXISTS
IN UNINCORPORATED PINELLAS COUNTY, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL LOW. THAT IS THE SAME DESIGNATION THAT WOULD BE ANTICIPATED FOR, SHOULD THIS APPLICATION BE APPROVED THIS EVENING. IT WOULD ALSO BE RESIDENTIAL LOW IN THE CITY OF DUNEDIN. FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL R1 IN UNINCORPORATED PINELLAS COUNTY. THE COMPARABLE CODE IN DUNEDIN IS RL-60.
YOU CAN SEE IT WOULD BE BROUGHT IN WITH NO NONCONFORMITIES. ACCORDINGLY, AS YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED AT FIRST READING, THE LPA CONSIDERED THESE ORDINANCES ON MAY 13th, 2026 AND
UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO THE CITY COMMISSION. THE CITY COMMISSION FOLLOWED THAT UP WITH THE FIRST READING, THEY PROCESSED THE LAND APPLICATION AS A TIER ONE REVIEW, AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION,
THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET AS EXHIBIT N. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF ALL THREE FOLLOWING ORDINANCES, THATZ ORDINANCE 26-02 FOR THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION. 26-03 TO DESIGNATE THE PROPERTY
AS RL, AND 26-04 TO DESIGNATE THE PROPERTY AS R-60, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER THEM. >> VICE MAYOR: THANK YOU, GEORGE.
JIM AND JEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO PRESENT FOR PURPOSES OF YOUR ANNEXATION? OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU.
I'LL BRING IT BACK FOR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, MAKER OF THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER DUGARD? >> IN THE COMMENT CATEGORY, I
THINK THIS IS TWO GOOD CITIZENS, JOINING THE FOLD. >> MICROPHONE? >> ARE WE IN QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> QUESTIONS. SO WHY -- >> ARE YOU GOOD CITIZENS?
>> SO WHY DO YOU WANT TO JOIN DUNEDIN? COME ON UP, I THINK WE WANT TO HEAR THAT. >> WE'RE GOING TO SWEAR YOU BOTH
IN. [ SWEARING-IN ] >> WELL, SO OUR ROOTS GO BACK FAR IN DUNEDIN, LIKE
COMMISSIONER JEFF GOW, I TOO AM A GRADUATE OF DUNEDIN HIGH SCHOOL, CLASS OF '79. AND WE HAVE LIVED IN THIS AREA FOR THE MAJORITY OF OUR LIFE, WE HAVE RAISED OUR TWO BEAUTIFUL
DAUGHTERS WHO ARE NOW 27 AND 29. THEY WERE BORN RIGHT HERE OFF OF CHICAGO AVENUE, A COUPLE BLOCKS SOUTH OF HERE. WE HAD OUR ENGAGEMENT PARTY AT THE DUNEDIN BOAT CLUB IN 1996. EVERY MEMBER WAS INVITED.
AND OUR GIRLS -- MY MOTHER USED TO -- I CAN REMEMBER WHEN MY MOM USED TO WALK THE GIRLS TO THE DUNEDIN LIBRARY IN A LITTLE STROLLER. THEY WERE TWO YEARS OLD, THEY SPENT THEIR FIRST EARLY YEARS AT DUNEDIN LIBRARY. WHEN MY MOM PASSED IN JANUARY,
SHE EVEN -- PHYLLIS GORCH WAS KIND ENOUGH TO SEND A SYMPATHY NOTE. THAT'S THE KIND OF RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE WITH THE PEOPLE HERE IN DUNEDIN. WE MOVED TO A BIGGER HOME FROM CHICAGO AVENUE. AT THE TIME IT DIDN'T REALLY
MATTER THAT WE WERE IN UNINCORPORATED PINELLAS COUNTY, WE WERE BUSY RAISING OUR CHILDREN. NOW THINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, WE'RE GETTING INTO OUR RETIREMENT YEARS, AND WE FEEL MORE CONNECTED AND JUST WANT TO BRING OUR ROOTS BACK
HOME AND SPEND MORE TIME VOLUNTEERING IN OUR CITY THAT HAS BEEN SO GOOD TO US. CAN'T WAIT TO GET THE BLUE SIGN ON AND PUT THE ORANGES ON THE MAILBOX. THIS HAS BEEN QUITE A PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. AND I HOPE -- HOPEFULLY THAT
ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. >> BEAUTIFULLY, THANK YOU. >> I THINK YOU SAID IT ALL, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 50 YEARS, 1971, MOVED IN, SETTLED, RAN A GROCERY STORE LOCALLY FOR THE BETTER
PART OF 25 YEARS, AND GOT TO MEET EVERY CITIZEN THAT CAME THROUGH OUR FRONT DOORS FOR GROCERIES, FOR A LONG TIME IT WAS CALLED DUKENS FOOD VILLA,
975 -- WHERE THE HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS IS NOW. I GOT TO MEET A LOT OF WONDERFUL PEOPLE, DUNEDIN HAS BEEN HOME TO US, ALWAYS. WE FEEL A LITTLE DISCONNECTED, BUT WE REMAIN CONNECTED.
AND SO IT JUST FEELS GOOD TO BE HOME AGAIN. WE'RE GRATEFUL, AND CERTAINLY GRATEFUL FOR ALL THAT THE CITY OF DUNEDIN AND THE PEOPLE IN IT DO FOR US AND EVERYONE. >> YOU COMPLIMENT US WITH YOUR APPLICATION.
THANK YOU, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> QUESTIONS? >> NO. >> NO QUESTIONS. >> VICE MAYOR: I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS EITHER. FOR ORDINANCE 26-02, I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC INPUT. SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE, I'LL
CLOSE PUBLIC INPUT. AND I THINK AT THIS POINT I WILL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE. >> COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN? >> AYE. >> COMMISSION GOW? >> AYE. >> COMMISSION DUGARD? >> AYE. >> VICE MAYOR WALKER? >> AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES
UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW GOING TO MOVE ON TO ORDINANCE 26-03, THE LAND USE DESIGNATION ORDINANCE. NOAH, COULD YOU PLEASE READ ORDINANCE 26-03 BY TIGHT ILONLY. >> AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
DUNEDIN, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CITY OF DUNEDIN LAND USE PLAN AS ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE 20-01, ON CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY FOLLOWING ANNEXATION, LOCATED AT 1991 SPANISH PINES DRIVE, PARCEL
132815784500 76000430 TOTALLING APPROXIMATELY .24 ACRES TO ASSIGN THE RL LAND USE DESIGNATION AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE. >> VICE MAYOR: OKAY, THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 26-03 ON THE SECOND READING. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> VICE MAYOR: COMMISSIONER
SANDBERGEN, COMMISSIONER DUGARD. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? >> NO QUESTIONS, VICE MAYOR. >> COMMISSIONER DUGARD? >> NO QUESTIONS. >> COMMISSIONER GOW? >> NO QUESTIONS. >> AND I HAVE NO QUESTIONS ON
26-03. IF YOU DON'T MIND I'LL HOLD OUR COMMENTS UNTIL THE END OF THE VOTES HERE, IF YOU'RE ALL OKAY WITH THAT. AND WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC INPUT.
ANYONE HAVING PUBLIC INPUT ON LAND USE DESIGNATION? HEARING NONE, SEEING NONE. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO A ROLL CALL VOTE. >> COMMISSIONER GOW? >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER DUGARD? >> AYE. >> COMMISSION SANDBERGEN? >> AYE. >> VICE MAYOR WALKER?
>> AYE. THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO ORDINANCE 26-04, THE ZONING DESIGNATION, NOAH, PLEASE READ ORDINANCE 26-04 BY TITLE ONLY. >> AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
DUNEDIN, FLORIDA, ZONING CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY, FOLLOWING ANNEXATION, LOCATED AT 1991 SPANISH PINES DRIVE, PARCEL 132815845760000340 WITH
DESIGNATED MEETS AND BOUNDS, TOTALLING APPROXIMATELY .24 ACRES TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, R-60 AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THANK YOU, NOAH. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE?
>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER DUGARD AND COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN. >> NO QUESTIONS. >> NO QUESTIONS.
>> NO QUESTIONS. >> VICE MAYOR: I HAVE NO QUESTIONS EITHER. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP 26-04 ZONING DESIGNATION, FOR PUBLIC INPUT. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO TALK ON THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE? HEARING NONE, SEEING NONE, I'LL
CLOSE PUBLIC INPUT. AND I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR COMMISSION COMMENTS. MAKER OF THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER DUGARD? >> NO COMMENTS, THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN. >> WELCOME TO DUNEDIN, THAT'S IT.
>> COMMISSIONER GOW? >> HE STOLE MY THUNDER. IT WON'T MEAN AS MUCH, BUT WELCOME TO DUNEDIN. >> DID I MISS SOMETHING? >> I HAVE SOME COMMENTS.
I'VE BEEN -- I'VE BEEN THINKING FOR QUITE A LONG TIME HERE ON WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, I GUESS, FIRST OF ALL, TO BE REDUNDANT, WELCOME TO DUNEDIN. AND I WANT TO SAY YOUR
CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR GREAT CITY HAVE JUST BEEN AMAZING, FROM EVERYTHING YOU DO ON THE -- FOR THE DUNEDIN BOAT CLUB AND THE MARINE ADVISORY BOARD, AND EVERYTHING ELSE YOU DO, I'M JUST THRILLED THAT NOW YOU ARE OFFICIALLY PART OF THE CITY, SO
YOU CAN PAY YOUR SHARE OF DUNEDIN TAXES, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, VOTE IN THE NEXT ELECTION. >> YES! >> VICE MAYOR: WITH THAT SAID THIS IS A GREAT DAY. ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
>> COMMISSIONER GOW? >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN? >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER DUGARD? >> AYE. >> VICE MAYOR WALKER? >> AYE. AND THOSE MOTIONS PASS UNANIMOUSLY, THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ] >> I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO JIM AND JEAN THAT THEY HOOK UP WITH OUR NEWCOMERS CLUB, THEY CAN TELL YOU WHAT WE DO IN THE CITY, AND HOW WE OPERATE.
>> VICE MAYOR: ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO E, REVIEW OF FIRE ASSESSMENT REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL. BEFORE WE GET INTO STAFF PRESENTATION, JENNIFER, YOU HAD SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO SAY? >> YES, I DO. LES TYLER IS COMING UP TO THE
STAFF TABLE THERE. AND WE HAVE CHRIS ROWE WHO IS JOINING US VIRTUALLY AS WELL. VICE MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THE LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO FRAME THIS AGENDA ITEM, I WANT TO ESTABLISH WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.
AND ACTUALLY, GO BACK A BIT. WHEN PROPERTY TAX REFORM WAS FIRST BEING DISCUSSED, IT WAS ACTUALLY BEFORE THE NEW YEAR, AS YOU KNOW, LAST SUMMER, WHEN GOVERNOR DeSANTIS FIRST INTRODUCED THE SUBJECT, WE STARTED LOOKING AT WAYS WITHIN
THE CITY OF DUNEDIN, TO ADDRESS WHAT WOULD BE A POTENTIAL REVENUE LOSS. WE DON'T -- WE STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND -- WELL, WE DO KNOW THE DEGREE OF THE REVENUE LOSS, SHOULD THE REFERENDUM PASS, AT THAT TIME WE DID NOT.
OUR CHARGE WAS TO LOOK UNDER EVERY ROCK TO FIND OUT WHERE WE COULD REDUCE OPERATING EXPENSES. WHERE WE COULD INCREASE REVENUES, AND SO THE FIRE ASSESSMENT IS ONE ASPECT THAT MANY CITIES ARE LOOKING FOR AND
LOOKING AT IN FACT, OUR NEIGHBORING -- MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES ARE LOOKING AT A FIRE ASSESSMENT. FIRE ASSESSMENTS, APPLY TO FIRE OPERATIONS ONLY. AND NOT TO EMS. AND SO WE SPENT ABOUT $12 MILLION A YEAR IN OUR FIRE
DEPARTMENT, AND 2 MILLION ON EMS. FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THAT TOTAL AMOUNT, I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO THINK THAT. SO IN THAT VAIN THEN,S WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SCOPE OF THE PROPERTY TAX REFORM, AND USING THIS AS A TOOL AVAILABLE TO US,
PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE, TO ADDRESS OUR DECREASES IN REVENUES, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS CURRENTLY PAID OUT OF AD VALOREM TAXES, WHICH IS THE GENERAL FUND, THE FIRE PORTION. THIS WOULD RELIEVE THE GENERAL FUND.
THAT SAID, WE HAVE A LONG PROCESS TO GO. ACTUALLY, IT'S MORE THAN A YEAR AND A HALF AWAY WHEN WE REALIZE THE REVENUES, THIS IS HOW MUCH IT TAKES, AND HOW LONG IT TAKES, IN ORDER TO LOOK AT THE FIRE ASSESSMENT, AND WE'RE GOING STEP BY STEP. WE -- AS YOU KNOW, WE CALLED A
SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION ON MAY 19th, AT THAT POINT BRIAN OLIVE, CHRIS ROWE GAVE YOU THE OVERVIEW OF THE FIRE ASSESSMENT, WHAT IT IS, HOW YOU CAN DO THE ASSESSMENT IN
VARIOUS WAYS IN ORDER TO LEVEE THE ASSESSMENT. THE CITY COMMISSION GAVE STAFF A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD. IT'S UNUSUAL FOR STAFF TO PUT AN RFP BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION,
AND THE PARAMETERS OF THE RFP. THAT'S TRADITIONALLY A DIFFERENT FUNCTION. THE FIRE ASSESSMENT IS OF MUCH GRAVITY, THAT I THINK MOST CERTAINLY THE CITY COMMISSION NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN EVERY STEP OF THE PROCESS.
AND THAT INCLUDES REVIEWING THE RFP. AN OVERVIEW OF THE RFP. AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TONIGHT IS THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ADVERTISING THE RFP. AT THAT POINT WE WOULD GET OUR RESPONSES, WE WOULD PUT TOGETHER
A COMMITTEE TO REVIEW IT, AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION, AS FAR AS THE SUCCESSFUL PROPOSAL, YOU WOULD DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT NEXT STEP AT THAT POINT. WE ARE GOING TO -- WE ARE COMPLETELY COMMITTED AS CHARGED BY THE CITY COMMISSION, TO BE
COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT ON EVERY STEP OF THIS PROCESS. AND SO THE RFP IS BEFORE YOU, AND THEN WITH THE -- WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO LES, AND WE HAVE CHRIS ROWE WHO IS GOING TO GO OVER THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, I WANT YOU TO KNOW
THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY, CHRIS ROWE, BRYAN MILLER AND OLIVE, JENNIFER COWAN HAS ALSO REVIEWED THIS RFP. IT IS READY TO GO, IT'S A VERY COMPREHENSIVE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, AND WITH THAT, AS I
SAID, I'LL GO AHEAD AND HAND IT OVER TO LES. SORRY, I DON'T KNOW IF I TOOK YOUR THUNDER, BUT THEY CAN HEAR IT TWICE, IF YOU WANT TO. >> LES TYLER, FINANCE DIRECTOR. >> YOU NEED TO PULL YOUR MICROPHONE CLOSER. I KNOW YOU ONLY HAVE -- KEEP THE
FURRY THING ON THIS TIME. >> I WILL, I'M GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT ON THIS TIME. I LEARNED LAST TIME, I DID. WHAT I'D LIKE TO TWO IS GO OVER THE BACKGROUND, AND GO OVER THE
SCOPE OF WORK, AND LEAVE IT TO CHRIS TO ADD ANYTHING HE WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION. FOR SOME BRIEF BACKGROUND, I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THE SCOPE, AND THEN ALSO, AS JENNIFER MENTIONED
ON THE 19th OF MAY, CHRIS WENT THROUGH THE FIRE ASSESSMENT, AND WE DISCUSSED THAT THE FIRE ASSESSMENT IS A FUNDING MECHANISM FOR FUNDING DISTRICTS. FIRE ASSESSMENTS ARE SEPARATE
FROM GENERAL FUND PROPERTY TAX REVENUES. SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS HAVE BEEN USED BY FLORIDA LOCAL GOVERNMENTS SINCE THE 1800s, CHARGES IMPOSED ON PROPERTIES THAT RECEIVE A SPECIFIC BENEFIT. EXAMPLES INCLUDE STORM WATER,
STREETLIGHTING FOR FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES, THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES ESTIMATES APPROXIMATELY 140 CITIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN 2023 HAD FIRE ASSESSMENTS, AND SINCE THAT TIME, THERE'S BEEN ADDITIONAL CITIES ADDED, AND THERE'S IN
BETWEEN 175 AND 200 CITIES AND COUNTIES WITH ACTIVE FIRE ASSESSMENTS TODAY. SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS DELIVER FROM PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH ARE REVENUES, MUST BE DEDICATED TO A SPECIFIC SERVICE OR PURPOSE.
HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS DO NOT APPLY. THE ASSESSMENT IS DETERMINED LOCALLY. AND ASSESSMENTS MAY BE COLLECTED ON THE ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX BILL UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE, 197-3632. THE ASSESSMENT PROCESS TO DESIGN
AND IMPLEMENT THE LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE FIRE PROTECTION PROGRAM, INCLUDES UNDERTAKING A STUDY, A STUDY IS INTENDED TO IDENTIFY THE FULL COST OF THE ACCESSIBLE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES, SEPARATE THE ASSESSABLE FIRE OPERATIONS, FROM
THE NONACCESSIBLE EMS FUNCTIONS. EVALUATE LONG TERM FUNDING NEEDS FOR THE FIRE OPERATION PREVENTION. ALSO LEGAL SUPPORT IS NECESSARY TO ENSURE THE LEGAL MILESTONES
ARE ACHIEVED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO PUBLIC NOTICES, LETTERS, ORDINANCES, AGREEMENTS, OR OTHER REQUIRED LEGAL DOCUMENTS. CHRIS ROWE HAS BEEN PROVIDING CITIES AND COUNTIES WITH CONSULTATION INFORMATION AND
BACKGROUND ON THE PROCESS, AND LEGAL STEPS OF IMPLEMENTING THE FIRE ASSESSMENT FOR MANY YEARS. AND PRESENTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON MAY 19th. THE CITY COMMISSION DIRECTION ON MAY 19th WAS FOR US TO BRING BACK THE RFP AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED.
I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY GO OVER THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE SCOPE OF SERVICES WITH THE RFP. THAT BEGINS ON PAGE 19 OF 41 WHICH IS ATTACHMENT ONE IN YOUR STAFFING REPORT. AND THE KEY OBJECTIVES OF THE STUDY ARE TO DETERMINE THE FULL
ACCESSIBLE COST OF FIRE PROTECTION, EXPLICITLY EXCLUDING THE EMS COST, AND OTHER NONACCESSIBLE ACTIVITIES. NEXT DESCRIBE THE DEMANDS FOR SERVICES, AND THE METHODOLOGIES FOR APPORTIONING THE ASSESSMENTS CONSISTENT WITH FLORIDA CASE
LAW, INCLUDING EXEMPLARY RATE STRUCTURES, THAT DELIVER A PRESENTATION AND REPORT SUMMARIZING THOSE METHODOLOGIES. RATE STRUCTURES AND SPECIAL BENEFITS CONVEYED BY FIRE SERVICES, AND THE METHOD RECOMMENDED FOR THE CITY. ALSO PRODUCE RATE OPTIONS AND
PRO FORM MA REVENUES. IF AUTHORIZED TO ASSIST WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROGRAM, UNDER NONAD VALOREM ASSESSMENTS, INCLUDING NOTICES, HEARINGS, THE TAX ROLL BILL AND CERTIFICATION,
ANALYZE AND DESIGN THE FULL COST AND FINANCIAL PLAN AND FUNDING MODEL FOR FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES, INCLUDING INSPECTIONS, PLAN REVIEW, COMMUNITY RISK AND REDUCTION ACTIVITIES. IDENTIFY AND QUANTIFY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM COSTS, INCLUDING PREPAREDNESS,
MITIGATION, RESPONSE COORDINATION, RECOVERY FUNCTIONS AND ALSO DETERMINE THE EXTENT TO WHICH THESE SERVICES CONVEY BENEFIT TO THE REAL PROPERTY AND ARE APPROPRIATE FOR SPECIAL ASESSIONMENT. EVALUATE THE COST OF CAPITAL NEEDS FOR FIRE ENGINES, FIRE
BOATS, VEHICLES, SPECIAL RESCUE TOOLS AS WELL AS RENOVATIONS TO FIRE STATIONS. IN THE BACKGROUND SCOPE, TASK 1 THROUGH 6 IN THE RFP ON PAGES 20 AND 21 OF THE LOCAL WILL BE COMPLETED. AND ALL THOSE PHASES WILL BE
COMPLETED, AT THE END OF THE TIME FRAME, THE CONSULTANT WILL PREPARE A COMPREHENSIVE FIRE PROJECTION ASSESSMENT REPORT, AND A FIVE-YEAR PLAN FOR THE FIRE RESCUE, SUMMARIZING THE ANALYSIS COST ALLOCATION, THE APPORTION RESULTS AND PROPOSED
ASSESSMENT RATES. THE CONSULTANT WOULD PRESENT PRELIMINARY AND FINAL FINDINGS TO THE STAFF, AND CITY COMMISSION FOR YOUR APPROVAL. UPON COMPLETION TASK 1 THROUGH 6, THE CITY COMMISSION WILL DETERMINE IF TASKS 7 AND 8 WILL
BE PERFORMED, DO WE MOVE FORWARD? THE NEXT PHASE WILL CONTAIN TASKS 7 AND 8 IN THE RFP. THOSE INCLUDE ASSIST WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE FEE, SELECTED FIRM WOULD WORK WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, CHRIS ROWE AND HIS TEAM, AND
ASSIST IN MAILING PUBLICATIONS, OF REQUIRED NOTICES, AND WE WOULD COORDINATE WITH PINELLAS COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER TO CERTIFY THE NONAD VALOREM ROLE ON THE TAX BILL. THE FIRM WILL DELIVER ALL WORK
PRODUCTS, INCLUDING EDITABLE COPIES OF SPREADSHEETS, MODELS, DATABASES TO THE CITY, PROVIDING SUMMARIES OR GUIDES HOW THE ASSESSMENTS WILL WORK IN THE FUTURE, FOR US TO FOLLOW. TASKS 9 AND 10 IN THE RFP ARE
OPTIONAL. PROVIDE ESTIMATED COSTS, TO PROVIDE ON GOING SUPPORT FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS AND INFORMATION AND MATERIALS, CONSULTANT MAY BE ASKED IN THAT TASK TO DO THE ASSESSMENTS FOR MAYBE YEAR 2 AND
3, AS WE LEARN THIS NEW PROCESS, AND ALSO SERVE AS AN EXPERT WITNESS IF NEEDED. TASK 10 IS ANOTHER OPTIONAL ITEM, AND THIS IS A FIRE PREVENTION COST STUDY, WITH LUMP SUM COSTS, A SEPARATE ITEM, THIS WOULD LOOK AT THE STAFFING LEVELS OF THE FIRE PREVENTION
DIVISION. LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDED FTE'S AND SERVICE LEVELS AND EXPECTATIONS, BENCHMARK AGAINST OTHER JURISDICTIONS, AND EVALUATE THE NEEDS AND STRUCTURES IF NEEDED. ANY CHANGES ARE NEEDED. AND THIS WILL BE DONE AFTER THE
FIRE ASSESSMENT WORK IS COMPLETE, AND THIS AGAIN IS AN OPTIONAL ITEM, IF THE COST IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY COMMISSION, WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT LATER, THE FEE STUDY DETERMINES THE BUDGET AND OPERATIONAL COST, AND THE FUNDING BASELINE, AND THE
EFFICIENCY STUDY REALLY CAN'T BE DONE RIGHT WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS, YOU'RE TRYING TO DELIVER, AND HOW MUCH MONEY THE DEPARTMENT HAS TO WORK WITH. MUCH OF THE RFP IS BOILERPLATE, IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY OUR PURCHASING MANAGER, TAMMY.
ALSO, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, AND CHRIS ROWE WITH BMO HAVE ALL REVIEWED IT, AS WELL AS THE FIRE CHIEF AND MYSELF, AND A FEW OTHERS AT THE CITY. THE PLAN IS, IF THE DRAFTED RFP IS APPROVED BY COMMISSION STAFF, WE'LL SELECT A 5 TO 7 PERSON
COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE RFP, AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CONSULTANT, THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT. THAT COMPLETES MY OVERVIEW, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CHRIS FOR
ANYTHING HE WOULD LIKE TO ADD AT THIS TIME. >> THIS IS CHRIS ROWE OF BRYANT, MILLER, OLIVE. THAT WAS A WONDERFUL OVERVIEW. I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD, BUT I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, SHOULD
THERE BE ANY. >> VICE MAYOR: OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO START TO THE LEFT HERE, COMMISSIONER GOW, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR BMO?
>> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR, ACTUALLY, VERY FEW. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE FIRE ASSESSMENT IS FOR FIREFIGHTERS ONLY AND NOT EMS? >> CORRECT. >> NOW THAT YOU'VE PROBABLY TOLD US WHY, BUT CAN YOU REPEAT WHY
EMS IS NOT INCLUDED, AND WHAT IS THAT -- HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE CITY OF DUNEDIN, CONSIDERING THAT ALL OF OUR FIRE PERSONNEL ARE FIREFIGHTERS/PARAMEDICS, HOW DO YOU SEPARATE THAT DEFINITION AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE
FUNDING? >> I'M GOING TO LIT CHRIS ANSWER THE FIRST PART OF THAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, AND I'LL TRY TO ANSWER THE SECOND PART.
CHRIS, DID YOU HEAR ME? >> IT LOOKS LIKE WE MAY HAVE LOST HIM. >> REAL QUICKLY, WE HAVE TWO COST CENTERS, ONE FOR EMS AND ONE FOR ALL THE OTHER FIRE COSTS, WE DO SEPARATE THE COST
NOW PRETTY WELL, I THINK THE CONSULTANT WILL FINETUNE THAT AND DETERMINE WHAT'S ASSESSABLE AND WHAT'S NOT. WE DO TRACK THOSE SEPARATELY, AND CURRENTLY, THE EMS COSTS ARE CURRENTLY 100% REIMBURSED BY THE COUNTY.
SO WE INCUR THE COSTS, THEY REIMBURSE US ON A MONTHLY BASIS. THAT REIMBURSEMENT AMOUNT IS AT RISK, THEIR FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT IS PROPERTY TAXES, SO THE ESTIMATED IMPACT OF THAT IS A
33% REDUCTION IN THEIR REVENUE SOURCE, SO IF THE VOTE IS APPROVED IN NOVEMBER, THEN THAT IS -- THAT WILL REDUCE THEIR REVENUE SOURCE TO PAY OUR EMS SERVICES, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH, BUT
A COST AND ACCOUNTING ATELY FRO- STANDPOINT. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON THAT? >> THE ASSESSMENT MUST APPLY TO THE STRUCTURE OR REAL PROPERTY.
AS A RESULT, FIRE OPERATIONS IS PERTAINING TO FIRE SUPPRESSION ON REAL PROPERTY OR FIRE STRUCTURES, EMS IS A BENEFIT TO A PERSON. THE ASSESSMENT CAN'T BE TO AN ENTITY OR A BODY, IT HAS TO BE
TO REAL PROPERTY. >> AND SO IF I UNDERSTAND THAT, CORRECTLY, AND YOU DID A FABULOUS JOB. >> THANK YOU. >> IF MY HOUSE CATCHES ON FIRE, THAT'S FIREFIGHTERS? >> THAT'S FIRE OPERATIONS, YES.
>> IF I HAVE A MEDICAL EMERGENCY AT MY HOME, THAT'S MEDICAL. >> THE PERSON. >> THE FIREFIGHTER COMING TO MY HOUSE, COULD BE THE SAME PERSON? >> SO YES, THAT'S TRUE. AND AS LES HAD SAID, THE COST CENTER FOR EMS IS REIMBURSABLE,
ALREADY SEPARATED, BIFURCATED ALREADY. >> WHERE IT COMES FROM THE COUNTY, I'M SORRY, LES, YOU MENTIONED IT, WHERE DOES THE COUNTY GET THOSE FUNDS TO BE REIMBURSE US FOR EMS. >> PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.
>> CHRIS, ARE YOU LIVE NOW? >> I AM HERE, I APOLOGIZE, THERE'S A TERRIBLE STORM IN THE BACKGROUND, I WAS DISCONNECTED BY. I'M HERE NOW. >> THAT'S, THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. >> VICE MAYOR: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOW. COMMISSIONER DUGARD?
>> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THE TIMING, AND THE RFP SAYS TIME OF COMPLETION WILL BE AGREED UPON WITH THE CONSULTANT, AND YET WE HAVE A CALENDAR HERE THAT SHOWS A CONSIDERATION BY THE
COMMISSION ON EITHER 11/19 OR 12/3. HELP ME UNDERSTAND OUR CALENDAR A LITTLE BIT? >> YEAH, WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED TIME FRAME IN THE BACK. AND THE LEFT COLUMN IS OUR PLANNED TIME FRAME, AND THE
RIGHT COLUMN IS SORT OF OUR WHAT IF TIME FRAME? THE PLAN IS TO BRING -- IF THE COMMISSION APPROVES THE RFP THIS EVENING, THE RFP WILL GO OUT TOMORROW, AND IT WILL BE OUT FOR 30 DAYS, AND WE WOULD PUT A SELECTION COMMITTEE TOGETHER, AS
SOON AS THE RFP COMES BACK, THE COMMITTEE WOULD MEET, AND THE PLAN WOULD BE TO SELECT THE FIRM AND BRING THAT BACK TO THE COMMISSION ON 9/17. THAT MEETING WOULD BE THE GOAL DAY TO BRING IT BACK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO APPROVE
WHOEVER'S SELECTED. AND THAT REALLY IS -- AND THEN FROM THAT POINT ON, ONCE IT'S APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION, WE WOULD BEGIN THE WORK, AND THE STUDY WITH THE CONSULTANTS SOON AFTER THAT. >> I'M GOING TO JUMP IN HERE A LITTLE BIT. ALSO, SO WE NEED TO -- BY
DECEMBER OF 2026, THIS YEAR, WE NEED TO NOTIFY THE TAX COLLECTOR, THIS IS THE METHOD WE'RE GOING TO BE USING, AND THAT HAS TO BE DONE BY DECEMBER 3rd. SO WHEN WE ADOPT -- OR WHEN YOU APPROVE THE METHODOLOGY
CONSULTANT, THEN WE WILL BE AGREEING ON THE LENGTH OF THE STUDY ITSELF. >> OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE HOW MUCH WAS IN OUR CONTROL OR THE PROVIDER. >> THERE SEEMS TO BE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE CRITICAL IN
TIMING. I PRESUME BY MID NOVEMBER, WE'LL KNOW THE RESULTS OF THE PROPERTY TAX REFERENDUM? AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO -- IS THIS
ME, AM I MAKING THE NOISE? THANK YOU. ONCE WE HAVE THAT PIECE, ARE WE CONSIDERING GOING-FORWARD OR NOT GOING-FORWARD IF THAT PROPOSITION FAILS? >> REGARDLESS OF THE REFORM, WHETHER IT FAILS OR NOT, WE'RE PLANNING ON MOVING FORWARD WITH
THE STEADY, AND THEN SEE WHAT THE RESULTS ARE, AND THE COMMISSION WILL DECIDE HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. JENNIFER? >> YEAH. SO MOVING FORWARD WITH THE STUDY ITSELF, AND THOSE DECISIONS WILL BE MADE BY THE CITY COMMISSION
OBVIOUSLY, THE GO/NO GO. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ASSESSMENT TO COMPLETE IT, AFTER HAVING CONTRACTED WITH A CONSULTANT. AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION ON IMPLEMENTING THE ASSESSMENT OR MERELY HAVING AN ASSESSMENT IN PLACE, OR A MINIMAL ASSESSMENT TO HELP US ADDRESS
SOME OF OUR STRUCTURAL BUDGET DEFICIT ISSUES. MY RECOMMENDATION IS RIGHT NOW, WITHOUT HAVING GONE THROUGH THE FULL STUDY ITSELF, IS PROPERTY TAX REFORM IS BEING DISCUSSED THIS YEAR, IT WILL BE DISCUSSED BY THE CONSTITUTIONAL COMMITTEE IN 2027. IT SHOULD TAKE PLACE IN SOME WAY
SHAPE OR FORM, AND THIS WOULD BE A GOOD INSTRUMENT FOR US TO HAVE IN OUR TOOL BELT MOVING FORWARD. IT'S THE THING THAT THE CITY COMMISSION CONTROLS, NOT TALLAHASSEE. THE AMOUNT OF THE ASSESSMENT IS ENTIRELY UP TO THE CITY COMMISSION AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU VICE MAYOR, THAT'S
ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW. >> VICE MAYOR: THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN? >> TONIGHT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE RFP, CORRECT? THIS WILL GO ON TO -- IT'S COMING FROM UP THERE, RIGHT? >> YES.
>> THIS WILL GO ON TO DEMAND STAR? >> CORRECT. >> JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHAT KIND OF CONSULTANT -- WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE WE'RE GOING TO SEE? ARE THERE GOING TO BE MULTIPLE PEOPLE THAT COME IN? OR -- THIS IS UNLIKE ANYTHING
YOU'VE PROBABLY EVER SEEN. >> WELL, I'LL LET TAMMY TALK, BUT THERE ARE -- >> THIS IS CORRECT. THERE ARE RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER OF FIRMS THAT DO THE
ASSESSMENT PORTION -- AND WITHIN A SMALL NUMBER, THERE'S EVEN FEWER THAT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE, THE CITY WILL BE PROVIDED WITH FIRE ASSESSMENT IN PARTICULAR. NAMELY, ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE FIRMS THROUGHOUT THE STATE THAT DO THIS SORT OF WORK.
I EXPECT YOUR RESPONSES WOULD BE SOMEWHERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, OF 4 TO 5, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'LL GARNER SUPPORT FROM FIRMS OUTSIDE THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THAT ALSO DO ASSESSMENT WORK, AS I MENTIONED DURING THE MAY PRESENTATION, EXPERIENCE IN THIS
PARTICULAR AREA, BY THAT I MINE, FIRE ASSESSMENT IS CRUCIAL. I WOULD REALLY EMPHASIZE THE NEED FOR EXPERIENCE WITH FLORIDA FIRE ASSESSMENTS, AMONG WHATEVER SHORT LISTS ARE PRESENTED FOR INFORMATION.
>> THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS GOING, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS -- I'M NOT SURE WE'VE EVER -- OR YOU'VE EVER HANDLED SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT. JENNIFER, I THINK YOU MENTIONED WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS TURNED INTO
PINELLAS COUNTY IN DECEMBER? >> BY THE 10th, CORRECT. >> THIS PROBABLY TRACKS WITH NATIONAL ELECTIONS? OR WOULD IT BE A MIDTERM ALSO? >> ACTUALLY, THE ASSESSMENT ITSELF IS NOT SUBJECT TO -- YOU'RE THINKING OF A REFERENDUM, THE PROPERTY TAX REFERENDUM IS
NOVEMBER 3rd, THE ASSESSMENT IS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION OUTSIDE OF THE ELECTION PROCESS. >> SO THIS -- WE WOULD MAKE THIS DECISION IN THIS BUILDING? >> YES. >> IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS OF DUNEDIN. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> INTERESTING. THAT CLARIFIES THAT, I'M GOOD.
THANK YOU, TAMMY. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN. >> THAT DECISION, SIR, IF I MAY BRIEFLY, I WANT TO UNDERSCORE, IT'S MADE ENTIRELY BY THE CITY COMMISSION, ONLY AFTER A FULLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING, DURING
WHICH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO RECEIVE NOTICE, AND ALL POTENTIAL PAYERS WILL RECEIVE NOTICE OF THE ASSESSMENT, WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU IN A PUBLIC HEARING AND EXPRESS THEIR SUPPORT OR OBJECTIONS, BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY VOTE TO IMPOSE THE ASSESSMENT.
GENERALLY THAT HEARING TAKES PLACE AUGUST/SEPTEMBER OF NEXT YEAR. >> DIRECT MAIL NOTIFICATION? >> THAT'S CORRECT. THE DECISION CAN ONLY BE MADE AFTER A FULLY NOTICED PUBLIC
HEARING OF ALL AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS. >> THANK YOU. SO MY QUESTIONS ARE RIGHT ALONG THE LINES OF COMMISSIONER SANDBERGENS. SO AS I WAS GOING THROUGH THE RFP, YOU KNOW, I -- I WENT
THROUGH THE TASKS, THOSE TASKS ARE PRETTY COMPLY MY INDICATED. >> YES, THEY ARE. >> AND IT REQUIRES A SPECIFIC EXPERTISE, I THINK. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE
CAN'T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG, BECAUSE BASICALLY, THEN THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO FORMULATE OUR COMMUNICATION, OUR PLAN BACK TO THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. AND WE SIGN UP, THEN FOR -- WE
SIGN UP TO DO IT THAT WAY, AND THAT'S REALLY PRETTY MUCH IT. IS THAT CORRECT? >> YEAH, IT'S CRITICAL ALL THE STEPS ARE DONE PROPERLY, AND IN ORDER. AND A LOT OF LEGAL STEPS TOO, LIKE CHRIS MENTIONED. >> AND THE TIME LINE -- I MEAN,
YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE TIME LINE FROM WHEN THE REFERENDUM IS GOING TO HIT THE BALLOT, AND HOW LONG IT TAKES TO PUT THIS ASSESSMENT IN PLACE, BASICALLY, I THINK YOUR STRATEGY, AND YOU CONFIRM THIS
IS, THAT IT WAS TO WORK IN PARALLEL. WE'RE NOT BEHIND THE 8 BALL IF THE REFERENDUM PASSES, CORRECT? >> EXACTLY RIGHT. >> IF I MAY, THIS REFERENDUM OR A FUTURE REFERENDUM. >> RIGHT. >> THIS REFERENDUM IN NOVEMBER
OF THIS YEAR, OR ANY FUTURE REFERENDUMS. >> SO BASICALLY, WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF THIS? >> YES. >> OKAY. SO THOSE ARE REALLY ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. WELL, ONE -- AND I ALSO WANT TO
CONFIRM WHAT CHRIS SAID, BECAUSE THAT WAS EXACTLY THE TAKEAWAY WHEN I READ THE RFP, IS THAT THIS IS SUCH A SPECIFIC EXPERTISE, THERE'S PROBABLY -- I THINK I HEARD 5 COMPANIES IN THE STATE THAT DO THIS. >> OR LESS, YEAH.
>> SO I MEAN, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE COULDN'T DO THIS WITHOUT A CONSULTANT. I MEAN. >> CORRECT. ABSOLUTELY. >> VICE MAYOR: THANK YOU.
THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. YES, GO AHEAD. >> WHERE WILL THE FUNDS COME FROM TO FUND THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT? >> THIS WILL BE GENERAL FUND AND OUR ESTIMATED COST IS 70 -- WELL, THERE WILL BE TWO PHASES
AS I MENTIONED, WE GET THE QUOTE FOR THE FIRST PHASE, THAT WILL BE A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT, IF WE MOVE FORWARD THERE WILL BE ANOTHER DOLLAR AMOUNT, THE BUDGET WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, IS ABOUT 75,000 TO $100 RIGHT NOW. >> INCLUDING THE LEGAL FEES. >> YES.
>> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. >> AND AT THE COMMISSION'S DISCRETION, THAT -- THE EXPENSES INCURRED IN DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING AN ASSESSMENT PROGRAM, CAN BE REIMBURSED THROUGH PROCEEDS OF THE
ASSESSMENT, IF THAT'S YOUR WISH. >> THANK YOU, CHRIS. I WANT TO OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC INPUT. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO PROVIDE PUBLIC INPUT ON THE FIRE
ASSESSMENT RFP? DAVID? >> DAVID BALLARD GEDDES, ACCORDING TO THE RESEARCH I'VE COME ACROSS, THE AD VALOREM PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY TAX IS NOW OLD SCHOOL GOVERNMENT,
THAT'S DONE. THE NON-AD VALOREM POSITION, WHICH HAS BEEN JUXTAPOSITION ON THE AD VALOREM, IS NOW GOING TO SUPPORT THIS NEW FORM OF TAXATION. OUR PROPERTY TAX LIEN IS NOW
CHANGING AGAIN INTO A LEVY, SO IN A SENSE, THE NON-AD VALOREM LEVY WILL COME FOR THE VALUE OF
OUR HOME, CREATING A MORTGAGE STATUTE. I BELIEVE. SO AS WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW, AS A PROPERTY TAX LIEN, SHOULD I FALL BEHIND ON MY CHARGES AND SO FORTH, YOU ALL CAN'T NECESSARILY
TAKE MY HOME. YOU CAN JUST HOLD A LIEN AGAINST IT, THIS LEVY ACTUALLY CREATES A MORTGAGE REVENUE CERTIFICATE. I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED IN THIS AREA, AND THE SHAPE SHIFTING FROM AN AD VALOREM TO A NON-AD
VALOREM, I KNOW BASED ON STATUTE, 197.3632, THESE CHARGES THAT ARE NOW COMING ACROSS THE BOARD ARE NOT BASED ON THE MILLAGE RATE, SO AS WE HAVE IT IN THE AD VALOREM NOW, FIRE DEPARTMENT, SCHOOL, WHATEVER, IS
ALL BASED ON MILLAGE RATE. NOW, THIS CHARGE HERE IS NOT A MILLAGE RATE. IT BECOMES A FLAT TAX, A -- HOWEVER YOU'RE GOING TO LABEL IT. IN A SENSE, I FEEL AS THOUGH, US AS CIVILIANS ARE BEING SUBJECTED
TO A FORM OF TAXATION THAT I'M NOT SO SURE OF POLITICAL WILDLIFE, FISHING FOR TAXATION, SO TO SPEAK, IS FISHING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BOAT HERE. WE NEED TO KEEP OURSELVES CIVILIZED IN HOW WE'RE GOING TO
TAX THE CIVILIAN POPULATION, AND UNDERSTANDABLY, WE NEED FUNCTIONS IN GOVERNMENT, SOCIETY NEEDS TO FUNCTION, BUT LET'S NOT BECOME A DESPOTIC FORM OF GOVERNMENT AS TO HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
THANK YOU, WITH THE NON-AD VALOREM PROCESS HERE. THANK YOU. >> VICE MAYOR: VTHANK YOU, DAVI. ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT, JENNIFER? >> NO. >> VICE MAYOR: ANYONE ELSE WANT
TO PROVIDE PUBLIC INPUT? I'M GOING TO BRING IT BOOK TO THE COMMISSION. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE RF IT -- RFP.
>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> VICE MAYOR: OVER TO YOU, COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN FOR COMMENTS? >> THIS IS BIG. I THINK WE STARTED TO DANCE AROUND THE COST, BUT WE HAVE BUDGETED RIGHT NOW, IS BETWEEN -- YOU SAID 75,000?
>> YEAH, 75 TO 100. 75 RIGHT NOW. HE SORT OF MADE ME FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER, AND I HOPE EVERYBODY CAUGHT THAT. THE COSTCO BE MOVED ON TO THE ASSESSMENT. >> TRUE. >> BECAUSE THAT WILL -- >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I
PRICED FIRE ASSESSMENT STUDIES, THIS SEEMS LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE BIG. JUST -- PART OF EVERYTHING BEING CHANGED, AND TALLAHASSEE DICTATING, AND WE'RE HAVING TO HELP OUT. SO -- IT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE,
VICE MAYOR. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN, COMMISSIONER GOW? >> THANK YOU. I BELIEVE IN BEING A BOY SCOUT AND BEING PREPARED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER DUGARD? >> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.
I NEED TO BE LINGUISTICALLY CORRECT HERE. WE'VE BEEN CALLING THIS PROPERTY TAX, THIS REFERENDUM IS A REMOVAL OF A TAX ON YOUR PROPERTY. NOTHING COULD BE MORE INACCURATE.
IT IS A CHARGE FOR SERVICES, IT'S A SERVICES TAX. AND WE'RE BEGINNING TO GET THE LIST OF SERVICES THAT COULD EVAPORATE OR SEVERELY DIMINISH IN THE ABSENCE OF THIS PROPERTY TAX THAT THEY'RE CALLING IT. IT'S A SERVICES TAX.
YOU'RE GETTING SERVICES THAT COULD GO AWAY IF THIS GOES AWAY. THIS IS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY I'VE HAD TO SAY THAT. BUT I THINK LINGUISTICALLY, WE'RE CALLING IT THE WRONG THING. GOVERNMENTS TEND TO DO THAT, BECAUSE THEY LIKE TO BELIEVE
THAT LIABILITY HAS SHIFTED TO THE CITIZENS IN CERTAIN WAYS. ON THEIR PROPERTY. AND THEY SAY, WELL, YOU CAN COME GET MY PROPERTY. WELL, THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE LAST COMMENTS. YES, IF YOU DON'T PAY THE PROPERTY TAXES OR SERVICES TAXES, THERE'S A LIEN ON YOUR
PROPERTY. AND, THEREFORE, THERE'S AN ILLUSION OUT THERE, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THIS THING, WE CAN COME TAKE IT AWAY FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, IF YOU FAIL TO PAY YOUR WATER OVER TIME, WE CAN COME GET IT THAT WAY. THIS IS JUST A BIG SHELL GAME.
AND I DON'T THINK THE CITIZENRY UNDERSTAND THAT, THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE GETTING THE SERVICES THEY'VE GOT RIGHT NOW, WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY FOR THE SERVICES THEY'RE RECEIVING. WE HAVE TO GO THIS WAY, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY OTHER CHOICE.
IT'S WHERE WE ARE. THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD IN THIS TOWN. I'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN HOW WONDERFUL THIS PLACE IS. IT'S NOT AN ACCIDENT. IT'S A DELIBERATE PROCESS THAT'S BEEN BEING BUILT FOR THE LAST 100 YEARS, DECISIONS HAVE BEEN
MADE, THEY PILED ON EACH OTHER, THEY CREATE WHAT WE HAVE HERE. THIS THING PASSES, WE'RE GOING TO START DISMANTLING THAT. NOT JUST THIS COMMUNITY, BUT EVERY COMMUNITY ACROSS THE STATE. THIS IS SERIOUS. WE'RE HAVING TO TREAT IT WITH WHATEVER TOOLS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
I SUPPORT THIS ACTION. >> VICE MAYOR: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DUGARD, GREAT COMMENTS. SO MY QUESTIONS WERE REALLY FOCUSED ON PROVIDING THE COMMUNITY, THE PUBLIC, OUR
RESIDENTS AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THIS PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. AND WE ARE FACING, ON NOVEMBER 3rd A REFERENDUM THAT WILL REMOVE APPROXIMATELY 50% OF OUR
GENERAL FUND. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NOT BE DOING OUR JOBS IF WE WEREN'T LOOKING AHEAD ON HOW WE ADDRESS THAT. AND SO THIS IS -- THE GREAT THING, AND THE WAY THIS IS STRUCTURED, IT'S -- YOU KNOW,
IT'S SEGMENTED, IT'S PHASES, WELL, FIRST PHASE IS TO GET THAT RFP OUT, GET THE EXPERTS INVOLVED, SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
AND IF -- IF THE REFERENDUM DOESN'T PASS, WE HAVE A POINT THERE WHERE WE CAN -- WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS, ALL RIGHT? IT'S NOT -- I WOULDN'T CALL THIS A DONE DEAL. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS,
BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THIS REFERENDUM IS EVEN ON THE BALLOT IS CAUSING US TO PLAN ACCORDINGLY, IF IT PASSES. AND THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS ABOUT THIS REFERENDUM IS, THE
REFERENDUM WAS PASSED WITHOUT ANY PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION ON HOW THE MUNICIPALITIES ARE GOING TO BE LEFT IN TACT. AND THAT -- THAT'S WHAT WE ARE
DEALING WITH UP HERE. AND SO SUBSEQUENTLY, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS, I HONESTLY FEEL THAT IF WE DIDN'T DO THIS AT THIS POINT, WE'RE NOT DOING OUR JOBS. AND EVERYTHING HAS TO BE ON THE TABLE. AND IT'S JUST WHERE IT'S AT.
AND SO -- I'M IN FAVOR OF IT -- I'M GOING TO CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> VICE MAYOR: ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 4-0.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO 3B. THIS IS RESOLUTION 26-09, REPEALING RESOLUTION 03-20, WHICH ESTABLISHED THE YOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS AMENDED BY
RESOLUTION 08-16 AND 12-12. NOAH, PLEASE READ RESOLUTION 26-09 BY TITLE ONLY. >> A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF DUNEDIN, FLORIDA, REPEALING RESOLUTION 03-20, WHICH ESTABLISHED THE YOUTH ADVISORY
COMMITTEE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> VICE MAYOR: THANK YOU, NOAH. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 26-09, SUNSETTING THE YOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE. >> SO MOVED.
>> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER GOW, COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN. STAFF PRESENTATION, TONY? >> GOOD EVENING AGAIN, TONY MALKE, PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR. THE ORIGINAL YOUTH ADVISORY
COMMITTEE, HAD THE GOALS TO PROVIDE THE YOUTH OF DUNEDIN WITH A FORUM TO ADDRESS THEIR NEEDS AND CONCERNS, PROVIDE INPUT TO THE COMMISSION ON ISSUES AFFECTING YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY. PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE LEADERSHIP SKILLS IN
CIVIC INVOLVEMENT AMONG DUNEDIN'S YOUTH, GIVEN THE DEMANDS OF SCHOOL, EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, THE STRUCTURE OF A FORMALIZED ACTIVITY, IT HAD CHALLENGES FOR EFFECTIVE ENGAGEMENT LONG TERM. WE ARE DEVELOPING A NEW APPROACH
TO REPLACE THIS, AND I FEEL IT WOULD HAVE THE SAME, IF NOT A LARGER IMPACT ON WHAT THIS COMMITTEE WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO DO. WE FEEL THAT WE CAN BE EFFECTIVE AND INCLUSIVE OF MORE VOICES OF
OUR COMMUNITY'S YOUTH, AND THAT PROGRAM'S THE TEEN LEADERSHIP PROGRAM WE'VE HAD FOR MANY YEARS. IT'S BEEN A SUMMERTIME ACTIVITY WE'VE BEEN PLANNING TO EXPAND INTO THE SCHOOL YEAR. WE'VE HAD PARTICIPANTS PROGRESS
FROM CAMP PARTICIPANTS TO THE TEAM LEADERSHIP PROGRAM TO SEASONAL STAFF DURING SUMMERS WHILE THEY'RE OFF OF COLLEGE, AND SOME OF YOU MATRICULATED INTO OUR SUPERVISORY STAFF
WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT NOW. IT'S A POWERFUL TOOL WE CAN PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE COMMISSION AND COMMUNITY ON WHAT TEENS AND YOUTH NEED. I KNOW MANY OF THE COMMISSION --
ALL OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE INVOLVED IN OUR PROGRAMMING FOR ONE ASPECT OF THE LEADERSHIP. WE WANT YOU TO BE, TO BE INVOLVED SO WE CAN SERVE OUR COMMUNITY BEST.
THE INTENDED RESULT OF THIS, IN BOLSTERING THE TEEN LEADERSHIP PROGRAM, WILL BE TO ENGAGE MORE TEENS IN THE PROCESS, WHILE ALSO PROVIDING SKILLS, DEVELOPMENT AND MENTORING. THIS WILL BE MUCH MORE LUCRATIVE THAN THE STRUCTURE OF A COMMITTEE, AND PROVIDE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR FEEDBACK, DISCUSSION AND I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
>> VICE PLAYER: QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? >> WHAT'S BEEN THE COMMITMENT LEVEL? >> THEY HAVEN'T MET THIS LAST YEAR. >> WHEN IS THE LAST TIME WE HAD ANY PARTICIPATION AT ALL? >> I THINK IT WAS COVID. >> I THINK IT WAS 2020.
>> THANK YOU. SECOND WAS COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN. >> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS, VICE MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, THE ABILITY AND OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM OUR YOUTH IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HEAR IT, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO
KNOW THAT THEY'RE BEING HEARD. AND SO CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT IS THAT PROCESS FOR GETTING THAT ENGAGEMENT, WHAT IS THAT PROCESS FOR TALKING ABOUT GETTING MORE YOUTH INVOLVED? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? >> LOOKING AT THE COMMITTEE
STRUCTURE, THROUGH THE VARIOUS AMENDMENTS TO THE RESOLUTION, IT STARTED OUT AS I BELIEVE A 15 PERSON COMMITTEE, AND WAS WHITTLED DOWN TO 9, AND OPENED UP TO ALLOW FOR SOME NONRESIDENTS, I THINK THAT PARTICIPATION HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE.
THIS YEAR, SUMMER ALONE, WE FULLY FILLED OUR TEEN LEADERSHIP PROGRAM. I BELIEVE THERE ARE 22 PARTICIPANTS IN THAT, THEY GO THROUGH A SERIES OF ARC R ACTIVITIES, MENTORSHIP AND GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. EXPANDING THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WE HOPE TO BUILD IN TEEN
SUMMITS AND TEEN ACTIVITIES TO PROVIDE A VOICE THAT'S VERY FORMALIZED. WE CAN BRING THOSE RESULTS OR INCLUDE THAT INTO SOME ELEMENT THAT DOES COME TO THE COMMISSION. THAT DOES -- ONE GETS YOUTH INVOLVED WITH THE CIVIC PROCESS AS WELL.
GETS THEM COMFORTABLE SPEAKING IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY. AND ALSO, HAS THAT MECHANISM FOR GROWTH AND FEEDBACK AS WELL. >> I KNOW THERE'S AT LEAST ONE OTHER COMMUNITY I'M AWARE OF IN PINELLAS COUNTY, THAT HAS BEEN
KNOWN TO TAKE THEIR YOUTH COMMITTEE TO TALLAHASSEE. AND SHOW THEM THE CIVIC PROCESS, AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, SO IF WE CAN -- I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO GO THAT FAR, BUT I LIKE YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT CIVICS, AND
MAKING SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE GOVERNMENT PROCESS, AND HOW WE OPERATE AND WHAT THEIR IMPACT CAN BE IN THAT PROCESS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME, ALONG WITH PARKS AND REC, RIGHT? IT'S ALL ASPECTS OF THE CITY,
THEY LIVE HERE TOO, AND THEIR VOICES A LOT OF TIMES GO UNHEARD. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HEAR THEIR VOICES. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. I AM GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR
PUBLIC INPUT ON SUNSETTING THE YOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO TALK ON THIS ISSUE? HEARING NONE, SEEING NONE. BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. WE'LL GO WITH COMMISSION COMMENTS, MAKER OF THE MOTION, COMMISSION DUGARD?
>> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. I DON'T THINK THE GENERAL PUBLIC REALIZES HOW MUCH WORK GOES INTO MAINTAINING A COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY. OUR CLERK IS ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS.
OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS. IT'S AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERY WAY WE CAN SAVE MONEY. EACH IF WE DON'T SEE ANY LOSE OF REVENUE FOR THE CITY, IT'S
INCUMBENT UPON US TO BE EFFICIENCY AT ALL TIME AND THIS IS A METHOD OF EFFICIENCY AND I SALUTE STAFF FOR BRINGING THIS RECOMMENDATION FORWARD AND ONE I THINK WE SHOULD FOLLOW. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DUGARD.
COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN? >> I UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE HERE AND I COMPLETE EMPLOYEE UNDERSTAND IT. I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP, TONEY. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO ECHO THAT.
WE DID DISCUSS THIS AND THIS STARTED WITH A LIST OF HOW MANY COMMITTEES DID WE HAVE? >> 26. >> 26, AND THAT'S A LOT OF COMMITTEES. IT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR THE STAFF
AND YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEEDED TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON EFFICIENCIES. I REALLY APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER GOW'S COMMENTS WITH REGARDS TO CIVIC INVOLVEMENT WITH OUR
UNIVERSITY. IT SOWBDS TO ME YOU HAVE OTHER WAYS TO ESTABLISH THAT TONY, AND I THINK THAT'S AWESOME. WITH THAT SAID, ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER GOW. >> EYE. >> COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN. >> YI.
>> COMMISSIONER DUGARD. >> EYE. >> VICE-MAYOR. >> EYE. THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THREE C, RESIDENTIAL 2610, REPEALING RESIDENTIAL 09-39,
WHICH ESTABLISHEDS THE ADVISORY ACTION COMMITTEE. NOAH, CAN YOU READ 26-I SO BY TE ONLY. >> REPEALING RESIDENTIAL 939,
AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THANK YOU. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 26-10 SUNSETTING THE ADVISORY ACTION COMMITTEE? >> SO MOVED. >> MAKER OF THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER DUGARD. DO I HAVE A SECOND.
>> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN SECONDS. SUE? >> GOOD EVENING, VICE-MAYOR AND COMMISSION. I'M SUE, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS. THE PUBLIC ACTION RELATIONS ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS ESTABLISHED BY RESIDENTIAL 0U9
39 ON NOVEMBER 5TH, 2009 AND THAT COMMITTEE HAD BEEN ACTIVE FOR MANY YEARS. THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMITTEE, THE ORIGINAL INTENT AND GOALS WAS TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO SPECIFIC ISSUES AND AREAS
OF CONCERN, WHICH WARRANTED SPECIAL HE EFFORTS TO THE PUBLO PROVIDED INFORMATION, AND ALSO FOCUSING ON SPECIFIC METHODS FOR
EFFECTIVENESS OF OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE CITY GOVERNMENT, THE SINCE OF DUNEDIN, AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC. THEY FOCUSED ON THE FORMS OF COMMUNICATION AT THAT TIME. SOCIAL MEDIA WAS ADOPTED AS A
FORM OF COMMUNICATION, BUT THE REAL PURPOSE WAS THERE WASN'T A STRONG COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT IN PLACE DURING THIS TIME. ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE COMMITTEE WAS TO THE CITY MANAGER WAS TO HIRE A
COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR. THE PRAAC COMMITTEE WAS INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS OF THE PUBLIC SEARCH FOR A COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR TO BUILD A COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT. WITH THAT, THEY BROUGHT ME ON
BOARD AND WITH THAT, I HAVE BUILT A DEPARTMENT. SO, AS WE HAVE REFLECTED ON THE YEAR SINCE THEN, THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN MANY ASPECTS OF COMMUNICATIONS. THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE WEBSITE, THE NEW WEBSITE THAT WE
BUILT AND LAUNCHED IN 2023 AND THAT WAS REALLY A TWO-YEAR PROCESS. THEY WERE VERY INVOLVED IN THAT. THEY WERE PART OF THE ORIGINAL RFP. THEY ALSO WERE INVOLVED IN THE BRAND REFRESH THAT WE DID IN
2023. AS THE COMMITTEE HAS EVOLVED AND AS THE COMMITTEE MATURED, THEY REFLECTED THEMSELVES BACK IN
EARLY 2025, MAYBE EVEN 2024, THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMITTEE WAS NO LONGER NEEDED. IT WAS REALLY MORE OF -- THEY WERE LOOKING AND WE WERE GIVING THEM UPDATES AND GETTING
FEEDBACK FROM THEM, BUT DIDN'T REALLY ACTIVELY HAVE THAT ORIGINAL INTENT OR PURPOSE. SO, THE COMMITTEE THEMSELVES ACTUALLY MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO US, STAFF, THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMITTEE WAS NO LONGER THERE AND A RECOMMENDATION WAS
MADE BY THEM TO SUNSET THE COMMITTEE. WE HAVE NOT MET SINCE JANUARY 2025. NOW, TO KEEP RESIDENTS STILL ENGAGED, IF WE EVER NEEDED TO DO A RFP FOR A BRAND REFRESH OR FOR
A NEW WEBSITE OR ANY OTHER BIG COMMUNICATIONS TYPE PROJECT, THE RECOMMENDATION BY ALL OF US WOULD BE TO CREATE A TASK FORCE. THERE'S WAYS TO DO THAT FOR KEEP CITIZENS INVOLVED. WE HAVE A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT WITH RESIDENTS EVEN STILL THROUGH
MANY OF OUR CHANNELS THAT WE IMPLICATE TODAY FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATIONS. >> THANK YOU, SUE. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. I'M GOING TO START WITH COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN. >> IS THIS COMMITTEE ABSORBED BY
ANYBODY ELSE OR IS IT CANCEL INSIDE. >> NO, THE COMMITTEE WAS NOT ABSORBED BY ANYBODY ELSE. WE DISCUSSED THAT, BUT IT WAS DECIDED TO SUNSET THE COMMITTEE. >> ISN'T THERE'S AN ATTENDANCE PROBLEM WITH THIS COMMITTEE? >> THERE WAS AS WELL, BUT WE HAD
REALLY, REALLY STRONG COMMITTED MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE WHO HAD SERVED FOR A WHILE. I THINK ATTENDANCE CAN BE A PROBLEM WITH A LOT OF OUR COMMITTEES, BUT THE COMMITTEE
HAD GOOD, DEDICATED MEMBERS FOR QUITE A WHILE. >> THAT'S ALL I HAD, VICE-MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN. COMMISSIONER GOW? >> NO QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER DUGARD? >> NO QUESTIONS.
>> AND I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC INPUT TO SUNSET THE PUBLIC RELATIONS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO TALK ON THIS ISSUE? HEARING NONE, SEEING NONE, I'LL
CLOSE PUBLIC INPUT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR COMMISSION COMMENTS. MAKER OF THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER DUGARD? >> I DON'T THINK ANYBODY, UNLESS THEY'VE BEEN UNDER A ROCK FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS, IS UNAWARE OF
THE FACT THAT COMMUNICATIONS HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY IN THE LAST DECADE AND A HALF. IT IS NO LONGER POSSIBLE TO BRING A SET OF PEOPLE TOGETHER. I DON'T CARE WHAT THEIR SKILL
LEVEL IS IN COMMUNICATIONS TO PLAN A COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNICATIONS PLAN FOR AN INSTITUTION LIKE THIS. IT REQUIRES PROFESSIONALS ON TASK EVERY DAY, EVERY WORKDAY OF THE WEEK AND SOMETIMES EVEN IN THE WEEKENDS.
I THINK THAT IS WHY THE COMMITTEE SELF-SELECTED TO NOT BE AS ACTIVE AS IT HAD IN THE PAST. IMG THEI THINK THE CHANGES IN COMMUNICATION SLZ BEEN NOTABLE. LOOK AT SOME OF THE PRODUCTS WE
PUT OUT. THEY'RE OUTSTANDING. SO, I THINK THIS IS A NECESSARY CHANGE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN? >> NOTHING. >> THANK YOU. GIRGS GOW. >> THIS IS THE SECOND AGENDA
ITEM ABOUT GETTING RID OF OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEES. MICHELLE, HOW MANY DID YOU SAY THAT WE HAD? >> 26 BOARDS AND COMMITTEES. >> AND DUNEDIN IS WELL-KNOWN FOR ITS COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, FOR REACHING OUT AND ASKING OUR
RESIDENTS, WHAT DO YOU THINK? WHAT'S THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF COMMITTEES IN OTHER CITIES; DO YOU KNOW? >> I WOULD SAY ABOUT SEVEN. >> ABOUT SEVEN, OKAY. TWENTY-SIX VERSUS SEVEN.
I THINK THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO HOW HARD WE TRY TO GET EN GAXGETENGAGEMENT FROM OUR CITIZ. SO THE IDEA TO REDUCE A FEW TO
MAKE A BETTER MOUSE TRAP IS CERTAINLY WORTH IT. I THINK WE SHOULD ALWAYS, ALWAYS BE MINDFUL OF HOW CAN WE ASK FOR INPUT FROM OUR RESIDENTS AND JUST NEVER LOSE TRACK OF THAT WHOLE CONCEPT OF WE ARE WHO WE ARE BECAUSE OF THE RESIDENTS.
I DO SUPPORT THIS THOUGH, SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOW. THOSE WERE REALLY INCITE FULL IL COMMENTS. I LOVED COMMISSIONER GOW'S CHARACTERIZATION OF THE ACTIVISM
THAT WE HAVE IN THIS GREAT CITY. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD REALLY SURPRISE US THAT WE HAVE 26 COMMITTEES OR HAD 26. I THINK WHAT, WE'VE WHITTLED THEM DOWN TO 25 OR SO?
I ALSO JUST WANT TO -- IN THE PROGRESSION, EVOLUTION OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS HAS JUST GROWN EEXPEDIENTIALLY. SUE, YOU AND YOUR TEAM DO SUCH AN AMAZING JOB.
YOU CAN SEE HOW THE WHOLE STRATEGY EVOLVED. THE FACT THAT THE COMMITTEE ITSELF WAS RECOGNIZING THAT IT WAS TIME IT SUNSET I THINK SPEAKS VOLUMES.
I LOVE YOUR IDEA WITH REGARDS TO TASK FORCE AND KEEPING THE PUBLIC INVOLVED ON STRATEGIC INITIATIVES. I THINK THAT'S PERFECT. ALRIGHT, WITH THAT SAID, ROLL CALL VOTE. >> COMMISSIONER GOW. >> EYE. >> COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN. >> EYE.
>> COMMISSIONER DU DUGARD. >> THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ON TO 3D, AUTHORIZE TASK ORDER 2026-03 FOR STORMWATER CURED IN
PLACE LINING TO VORTEX SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $901,709. STAFF PRESENTATION OVER TO ISAAC. IAAC.
>> GOOD EVENING, VICE-MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. I'M JOINED WITH THE PUBLIC SERVICE MANAGER FOR 3D, AUTHORIZE TASK ORDER 2026-03 FOR STORMWATER CURED IN PLACE PIPE LINING TO VORTEX SERVICES L.L. 3
IN THE AMOUNT OF 903,709. THIS HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY, BUT THIS IS FOR THE STORMWATER SYSTEM. TIS IS A YEARLY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. THIS YEAR, WE HAVE BEGUN TO USE
A TASK ORDER PROCESS FOR BOTH OUR YEA YEARLY PROJECTS, AS WELS TO ADDRESS ISSUES AS THEY RISE OR ARE DISCOVERED. THIS WAS COMPETITIVELY BID AS A CONTINUING SERVICE CONTRACT, WHICH WAS SUBSEQUENTLY AWARDED
TO VORTEX SERVICES LLC AT THE JANUARY 22, 2026 COMMISSION MEETING. VORTEX HAS PERFORMED THIS TYPE OF WORK IN THE CITY BEFORE AND TO OUR SATISFACTION. THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT MAINTAINS AN EXTENSIVE SEPARATE
STORM SEWER SYSTEM THAT CONVEYS STORMWATER RUNOFF TO ITS INTENDED OUTFIT. IT CONTAINS A VARIETY OF PIPES, CONSISTING OF DIFFERENT MATERIALS, SIZING AND CONFIGURATIONS. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS LINING EXTENDS THE SERVICE LIFE
OF EXISTING PIPES UP TO AN ADDITIONAL 50 YEARS T DOES NOT REQUIRE EXCAVATION OF THE STREETS OR RIGHT-OF-WAYS, AND PIPES ARE ACCESSED AND LINED THROUGH MANHOLES. THIS ORDER IS FOR APPROXIMATELY
APPROXIMATELY 4,700 LINEAR FEET IN 12 LOCATIONS ACROSS THE CITY AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT C. THEY ARE BUENA VISTA DRIVE NORTH. GARDEN CIRCLE SOUTH.
ROBINHOOD LANE. RANCHWOOD DRIVE EAST. OVERCAST DRIVE. AMBER GLEN DRIVE. VALLEY DRIVE. NEW YORK AVENUE H HIGHLANDER. SAN MATEO DRIVE IN SHREVEPORT
WAY. STAFF RECOMMENDS ISSUANCE OF TAS ORDER IN THE AMOUNT OF $901,709 FOR STWRAWRMT CRIEP LINING TO VORTEX SERVICES LLC OF
RIVERVIEW, FLORIDA, AS DETAILED HEREIN. WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, ISAAC. COMMISSIONER GOW. >> THANK YOU, VICE-MAYOR. ISAAC, HOW MANY LINEAR FEET IN TOTAL? IS IT 700. >> 4,700.
>> I DID THE SAME THING. I APOLOGIZE. >> FOR THE SAME LINEAR FEET, WHAT WOULD THE COST BE, IF YOU KNOW, OF REPLACING THE PIPING THERE?
>> THAT WOULD VARY BETWEEN THE MATERIAL, EQUIPMENT NEEDED, ACCESS FOR IT, BUT IT'S AN EXTREME COST SAVINGS BEING ABLE TO REPAIR THE PIPE WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS LINING VERGES EXCAVATION. >> IT WOULD BE MORE THAN THE
901,000? >> YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING 3 MILLION. >> OKAY. AND THIS EXTENDS THE LIFE OF THESE PIPES HOW MANY YEARS? >> 50 YEARS. >> 50 YEARS. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOW.
COMMISSIONER DUGARD? >> HELP ME WITH MY MATH HERE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I'M STRUGGLING ON THIS ONE ON THE NUMBERS STILL. THIS IS 901 AND SOME CHANGE AND IT'S 4700 SQUARE FEET. WHAT DOES THAT COME TO ABOUT A
FOOT? DO YOU HAVE A FEEL FOR THAT? >> THE SIZE IS VARIED DEPENDING -- THE PRICE DEPENDS ON THE SIZE AND THE THICKNESS OF THE LINING FOR THE DIFFERENT PIPES AND IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THE PIPE IS, UNDER ROAD, THROUGH RIGHT-OF-WAY.
IT DEPENDS ON LOAD PRESSURES AND WHATNOT. THEY HAVE GIVE A BREAKDOWN ON THEIR QUOTE. A 12-INCH PIPE AT SIX MILLITER THICKNESS AT ONE FOOT LENGTH IS $116 A LINEAR FOOT.
IF YOU GO TOUCH A 48-INCH PIPE AT 18-INCH THEENGNESS, IT'S $396. >> Y DO YOU HAVE A FAIR LUMP SO? THERE'S ALSO OTHER SERVICES,
LIKE ROAD CLOSURE, BYPASS PLUMBING. >> THAT'S INSTALLED. >> CORRECT. >> THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN? >> HOW DID WE DETERMINE THOSE ADDRESSES?
>> THESE ADDRESSES WERE VETTED BY THE OPERATIONS DEPARTMENT. MOST OF THESE LOCATIONS, EIGHT LONGSES WE'VE HAD PREVIOUS REPAIRS AT, SEVEN LOCATIONS ARE LIMITED ACCESS. AS YOU CAN SEE JUST BY THAT T
TREEWAY, IT'S IN BETWEEN THE HOMES. IF WE EVER NEEDED A REPAIR THERE, WE WOULD BE DIGGING IN BETWEEN THE HOPES AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS A 15-FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY, SO THEN YOU WOULD HAVE SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT ON EACH PERSONS PROPERTY. SO IT'S TIGHT ACCESS IN
QUARTERS. >> WHAT ARE THESE PIPES MADE OF? >> IT'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, CORRUGATED METAL PIPE. SOME HAVE VCP, WHICH IS CLAY PIPE. IT WOULD BE IN BETWEEN HOMES
WITH LIMITED ACCESS THAT WE WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THE CURB. >> WE CAN DO IT WITHOUT DISRUPTING THE PROPERTY OWNERS? >> NO, THERE'S VERY LITTLE DISRUPTION BECAUSE IT'S DONE FROM THE VOI RIGHT-OF-WAY.
>> IT SEEMS LIKE AN ONGOING PROJECT. WE'VE USED VORTEX PREESMG? >> WE'VE USED VORTEX, WE'VE USED GRANITE. >> I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE WAITED TO COMMENT. YOU KNOW, THIS VORTEX COMPANY, WE PAY THEM A LOT OF MONEY.
PROBABLY SITTING AT HOME TONIGHT WAITING FOR THIS 900,000-DOLLAR CONTRACT. OUT OF THEIR EAR, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM SIT HERE SOMEDAY SO WE CAN MEET THEM. WE HEAR NO COMPLAINTS. OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE DOING A GOOD
JOB. BUT WE'VE GOT TO BE A PRETTY GOOD SIZED CLIENT OF THEIRS AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO MEET THEM AND HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY ABOUT US SOMETIME. IT'S NICE TO BE HEARD. >> ABSOLUTELY. WE ORD AWARDED A MULTIYEAR CONTT
TO VORTEX AND I WOULD SAY THIS IS FOR THE FOURTH TIME, AND IT'S FOR WASTEWATER AND STORMWATER, SO IT'S FOR BOTH. YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE US A FEW MORE TIMES. YEAH, PROBABLY OFTEN. >> YOU NEVER HEAR ANY
COMPLAINTS. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE A GOOD SIZED CLIENT OF THEIRS, THAT'S ALL. THANKS, COMMISSIONER. >> THANKS, COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN. YEAH, ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION. SO BASICALLY WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT CURED IN PLACE, YOU DON'T
HAVE TO DIG UP THE PIPE. YOU JUST NEED TO GET ACCESS TO THE PIPE. IT'S A SPECIAL MATERIAL THAT GOES IN TO LINE THE PIPE TO EXTENDS IT LIFE FOR 50 YEARS, IS THAT CORRECT? >> IT'S A FIBERGLASS LINER THAT
THEY PUSH THROUGH THE SYSTEM WITH WATER. IT HAS A BOILER THAT REACHES A TEMPERATURE FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. ONCE IT REACHES THAT TEMPERATURE, IT RELEASES. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE AN EFFICIENT WAY TO ADDRESS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER DUGARD? >> I APPRECIATE THIS PROCESS, BUT I WANT TO KNOW, ARE WE LOSING MUCH VOLUME BY THE PROCESS THROUGH THE PIPE? >> NO. >> CAN YOU GIVE ME AN IDEA OF
WHAT IT IS BEFORE AND AFTER? SO, IS IT ONLY LIKE A FIVE PERCENT LOSS OF VOLUME? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? DO YOU KNOW? >> AL CLAITION DWCH WISE, I DON'T KNOW THAT. YOU'RE TALKING SIX MILLIMETERS OF THICKNESS.
>> OVERALL PIPE SIZE. >> OF 12-INCH, NINE MILLIMETERS THICKNESS OF A 18-INCH, IT'S MINIMAL. >> I WOULD SAY IT'S LESS THAN ONE PERCHT. >> THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DUGARD. >> I HAD A FOLLOW-UP.
>> ON SOME OF THIS PIPE, IT WILL PROVIDE A SMOOTHER SERVICE AND PROBABLY IN REESE YOUR FLOW RATE. >> IN 50 YEARS, CAN WE DO THIS AGAIN TO THE SAME PIPES? >> YES.
>> I VOTE YES. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY, I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC INPUT. ANYBODY WANTING TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE, I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR COMMISSION COMMENTS. FIRST OF ALTHOUGH, I WOULD LIKE
TO ASK FOR A MOTION ON 3D. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> ALRIGHT, MAKER OF THE MOTION IS COMMISSIONER GOW. SECOND IS COMMISSIONER DUGARD. NOW I'M GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER GOW, MAKER OF THE MOTION.
>> I THINK THIS IS MONEY WELL-SPENT ON INFRASTRUCTURE. NO FURTHER COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER DUGARD? >> I CONCUR WITH MY COLLEAGUE. >> COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN? >> NOPE. MONEY WELL-SPENT TO KEEP THOSE PIPES WORKING. I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB,
BOTH OF YOU GUYS. YOU TOO, CLAY. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN. I WILL SAY THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT THIS BEFORE US MANY TIMES NOW AND I STILL -- I'M STILL JUST KIND OF IN AWESTRUCK BY THE TECHNOLOGY AND HOW MUCH
MORE EFFICIENT THIS IS. ANYWAYS, WELL-DONE, GREAT PRESENTATION, AND CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE? UAE.
>> ANYBODY OBJECT? HEARING NONE, THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> IF I CAN, VICE-MAYOR, GOOD DURING THIS PROJECT, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK US TO COME UT AND OBSERVE, I'M SURE IT'S PROBABLY ACTUALLY FASCINATING TO
WATCH THEM WORK. >> WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY'LL INVITE US AND GIVE US A DAY. I WOULD LOVE TO MEET THOSE GUYS. >> I PROBABLY CAN'T MAKE, IT I WORK DURING THE DAY, BUT A COOL PROCESS. >> A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE DO OUR
WASTEWATER, THEY'RE WORKING AT NIGHT BECAUSE OF THE LOW FLOW TIME. STORMWATER MIGHT BE DIFFERENT. >> WE HAVE ONE MORE ACTION ITEM.
PROPOSED AGENDA FOR JULY OF 2026. ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR CHANGES? >> VICE-MAYOR, ONE CONSENT AGENDA HAS BEEN REMOVED, THAT IS CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 2D. >> ANYBODY ELSE?
CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT THE JULY 23RD AGENDA? >> SO MOVED. >> I'LL SECOND IT. >> OKAY, COMMISSIONER DUGARD, AND SECOND COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY
SAYING AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES] >> ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALRIGHT, THAT CLOSES OUT OUR ACTION ITEMS. WE'RE MOVING ON TO INFORMATIONAL ITEMS. FIRST OF ALL, COMMISSION DISCUSSION AND COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER GOW, ANYTHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? >> THIS MIGHT FALL UNDER BASEBALL, SO I DO APOLOGIZE, COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN, FOR STEPPING ON YOUR TOES. BUT JULY 11TH IS CELTIC NIGHT AT TD STADIUM AND SO IF YOU GET
THERE EARLY, YOU CAN GET YOUR TARTAN BUCKET HAT. IT'S A KILT NIGHT. COME ON OUT. THAT'S IT, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOW. COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN?
>> I DO HAVE MY TICKET AND I WILL BE AT THAT GAME. >> THERE YOU GO. >> HAD A REAL GOOD OPPORTUNITY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. I VOLUNTEERED AT THE DUNEDIN SUMMER CAMP. THEY OFFERED ME A CHANCE TO GO OUTSIDE AND PLAY KICK BALL.
IT WAS ABOUT 125 125 DEGREES, I ELECTED TO STAND IN THE GYM ALL DAY. I GOT TO SHAKE HANDS WITH FIVE AND SIX-YEAR-OLDS, HAD A GREAT TIME. REALLY ENJOYED IT. THEY HAVE GREAT VOLUNTEERS UP
THERE, GREAT STAFF. IT'S CONTROLLED CHAOS, BUT THOSE KKIDS ARE HAVING A GOOD TIME AND STAFF ARE DOING A GOOD JOB. I'LL BE HEADING OUT TUESDAY. MEETING ALL OF Y'ALL ON WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY. FORECAST IN TOE IS COOLER THAN
HERE, BUT IT WILL BE HOT AND HUMID. I THINK ON YOUR AGENDAS YOU'VE SEEN NOW WE'LL BE EATING DINNER AT THE KEG. THAT'S ABOUT A MILE WALK, SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. >> WHAT?
WE'RE GOING TO WALK? >> UNLESS COMMISSIONER WANTS TO RENT US AN UBER. WITH THAT, I'M EXCITED TO GO. IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD YEAR UP THERE AND I'M GLAD EVERYONE IS ATTENDING.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE, VICE-MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN. COMMISSIONER DUGARD. >> IT'S NOT THE WALK TO THE KEG I'M WORRIED ABOUT. IT'S THE WALK ABOUT. >> IT'S THE STAGGER HOME. >> THE DISTANCE COULD BE IMMEASURABLY LONGER. I WISH TO COMPLIMENT OUR
VICE-MAYOR FOR LEADING AN EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD MEETING. [APPLAUSE] >> I KNOW FROM MOST SEATS, YOU COUNTY SEE WHAT GOES ON UP HERE,
BUT IT'S ORCHESTRATED CHAOS. KEEPING IT ALL TOGETHER TAKES A GOOD DEGREE OF ATTENTION AND FOCUS. YOU SHUTTER THE DAY THAT I MIGHT END UP OVER ON THAT SEAT BECAUSE IT'S A HOT SEAT. CONGRATULATIONS, JOHN, FOR A JOB
WELL DONE. I DO THINK THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE ADVISED THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF; SOME INFORMATIONAL, SOME BIASED MATERIAL ON THIS PROPERTY TAX REFERENDUM.
WE ARE RESTRICTED ON THIS I DO DAISFROM EXPRESSING AN OPINION N IT. I KNOW TONIGHT I WAS A LITTLE DIRECT, BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF RISK AT THIS THING AND I THINK THE POPULATION NEEDS TO KNOW IT.
WE WILL USE EVERY OPPORTUNITY UNDER THE LAW TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POPULATION IS FULLY INFORMED AS TO WHAT IS AT RISK. THANK YOU, VICE-MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DUGARD. FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE A HUGE SHOUT OUT TO
PARKS AND REC AND EVERYBODY THAT WAS INVOLVED WITH THE HOMETOWN USA. IT'S JUST AMAZING WHAT OUR PARKS AND REC AND ALL OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THAT DO. I MEAN, IT'S HUGE.
AND IT JUST REALLY KIND OF REAFFIRMS THE FACT THAT WE LIVE IN A GREAT CITY. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FROM A LIAISON PERSPECTIVE TODAY, BUT I DO JUST WANT TO ECHO COMMISSIONER DUGARD'S COMMENTS WITH REGARDS TO THE POSITION
THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE ON PROPERTY TAX ISSUE. YES, WE ARE NOT -- ANYTHING THAT WE PROVIDE IS IN THE INTEREST OF PROVIDING BACKGROUND FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE RESIDENTS SO THAT WHEN YOU GO TO VOTE, YOU ARE FULLY INFORMED.
THAT'S REALLY THE KEY. AS PART OF THAT, THERE'S SOME REALITIES HERE. WE WOULD NOT BE DOING OUR JOB IF WE NOT EXPLAIN THE REALITIES. THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING.
SO, ANYWAY, WITH THAT SAID, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY CLERK FOR ANYTHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? >> THANK YOU, VICE-MAYOR. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND OVEN THAT QUALIFYING BEGINS MONDAY, JULY 12TH AND GOES THROUGH NOON
ON JULY 27TH. >> NOT A MINUTE MORE, RIGHT? >> NOT A MINUTE PAST. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. CITY MANAGER. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, VICE-MAYOR. I, TOO, WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK FOR OUR FOURTH OF JULY CELEBRATION ON THE THIRD
OF JULY. IT TRULY WAS A WONDERFUL NIGHT. THE STADIUM WAS ALMOST FULL AND I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT OUR OWN TONY, OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, WHO
CHOREOGRAPHED THE MUSIC WITH THE FIREWORKS ON THAT. HE IS UP FOR AN EMMY. I WANTED TO MENTION MICHELLE AND OUR LOBBYIST AT SOUTHERN GROUP. THE $4.7 MILLION APPROPRIATION
THAT THE THAT WE RECEIVED AFTER THE GOVERNOR SIGNED. WE HAVE FUNDING FOR THE MARINE KNEE, THE WATER BASEMENT, AND FOR A HIGH WATER VEHICLE, WHICH WAS IN YOUR BUDGET PUSHED BACK I BELIEVE TO 2028, AND THE HIGH
WATER RESCUE VEHICLE WILL HELP US IN A FLOODING SITUATION WITH STORM SURGE I RYE NOW WE HAVE JOHN BOATS. THIS IS A FULLY COVERED VEHICLE, THAT COULD MAKE IT TO HONEYMOON
AT LOW TIDE, WHICH IS A GOOD THING. I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON THOSE APPROPRIATIONS. IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK. THERE'S SOME GRAND TRACKING FORMS. ONE OF THE INSTRUMENTS THAT WE'RE PURSUING AS PART OF A TOOL
OF OURS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUE ASSIST THE GRANTS, THE GRANT FUNDING. WE HIRED A GRANTS WRITER AND SHE'S DOING A FANTASTIC JOB, CAMILLE. I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO BRING YOU GOOD NEWS AS FAR AS WHAT
GRANTS HAVE BEEN AWARDED WHAT HAPPEN WE'VE APPLIED FOR AS WELL. WE CONTINUE TO PURSUE ANY FUNDING SOURCE WE CAN AS PART OF WHAT WE MAY LOOSE AS PART OF THE PROPERTY TAX REFORM. AAS SOON AS WE GET BACK TRO FROM
TORONTO, WE HAVE A BUSY WEEK. ON JULY 21ST, WE HAVE THE FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP. WE'LL BE PRESENTING OUR POSITIONS IN OUR BUDGET MUCH OUR PROPOSED BUDGET WHICH IS 2027 BUDGET, WHICH IS A BALANCED BUDGET WITH A 17.6% RESERVE, I
THINK, BUILT INTO THAT BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. WE'LL ALSO BE INTRODUCING TO YOU OUR CONTINGENCY BUDGET IF THE PROPERTY REFORM DOES PASS. THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION, YOU CAN SEE SOME DEEP CUTS IN OPERATING AND
EXPENDITURES FOR OPERATING, AND A PLAN MOVING FORWARD AS FAR AS PUSHING OUT IN CAPITAL PROJECTS IN ORDER TO ADDRESS OUR DEFICIT. WE ARE PLANNING TO IMPLEMENT A PORTION OF THAT BUDGET IF THE
BILL DOESN'T PASS IN TERMS OF DOING IT A LITTLE MORE SLOWLY TO GET READY FOR WHAT'S COMING IN THE FUTURE. OF COURSE, THE FIRE ASSESSMENT IS A TOOL WE'LL BE USING THERE AS WELL. WE HAVE TWO FO FORUMS COMING UP.
WE INVITED ALL OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMITTEES AND OUR CITIZENS ACADEMY TO COME TO THE FORUM. THEY ARE AMBASSADORS IN THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACT IS AND CONVEY IT TO THE COMMUNITY.
THEN, WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE AFTER THAT. SO, WE ARE DINNING TO HOLD OUR FORUMS. AS FAR AS CITIES ARE DOING, WE HAVE A REPUTATION BECAUSE WE'RE AHEAD OF THE BALL.
I WANT TO BE VERY, VERY CLEAR, THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY IS REVIEWING OUR ACTIVITY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT IN ADVOCACY MODE, BUT WE'RE IN EDUCATIONAL MODE. WE ARE EDUCATING THE CITY BASED
ON THE PACKET TO THE CITY OF DUNEDIN. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, JENNIFER. NOAH, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS WEEK. ANYTHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT. >> THANK YOU.
SO, I THINK THAT JUST ABOUT DOES IT. ALRIGHT, IF NOBODY HAS ANYTHING ELSE, WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING AND THANK YOU ALL FOR PUTTING UP WITH ME TODAY.