--------- meeting to order for October 28, 2025. Um agenda tonight, we'll start with a public comment. Secondly, after that we will do approval of meetings meeting minutes from October 15th
and then a discussion on electric vehicle charger fees adding that to our current fee schedule. Appointment of Jodie Ko as the animal control officer. The union building contract with ENAP architects for interior to design. And
then at 7:00, we're going to be joining with the advisory board to discuss the special time meeting warrant and the compensation and classification study. And that will be it for the evening. >> Updating up. All right, we'll start with public comment. Is there anyone here
would like to speak to anything not on the agenda this evening? John, >> I think the lights on in the attic at the at the union school. Okay. Are >> they Are they going in and out of there?
>> No. >> Not to my knowledge. No. >> Take care of it. They do have a bunch of those items they still need to complete, but not in the attic. >> Not in the attic. >> Not in the attic. >> The bats that it up. >> All right.
Anything else? All right, we will move on. Um, do we have a motion to approve the minutes of October 15, 2025? >> I move to approve the meeting minutes from October 15, 2025 as submitted.
>> Second. >> Any discussion? >> None. All those in favor? >> I I All right. Um, charter fees to the schedule. I guess there's a request to add that to our current electric fee schedule.
More and more requests are being made in town or is Yeah. >> Yeah. Dana So Dana had come to we had discussed um he wanted to get a permit because he is getting um and it varies
on how you know people are opening the permit. Some were doing like an additional outlet. Some are doing garage. Um, so I did some research for surrounding communities. Um, and came up with $100 plus the $12 per month fee.
Um, which is kind of in the middle of what I found. A lot of communities don't have it called out, so it seems like it's just continuing to catch on to be called out. So that's the recommendation. >> Okay. >> Anybody have any issues with that? No,
no, no. Good, good, good clarity. Yeah, absolutely. >> I'd love to know just like how many we how many EV chargers we have and like I know at some point we discussed having a charging station up here >> and like does that come back into play,
you know, down the road, not today, but like I know a couple other towns there was a consultant JJ Energy, depending on your community is offering to put them in for free. So like they're going to do it at the towns and police station, the towns and
senior center library as well as the town hall at no expense to the town. Their only revenue will be based off the charging fees. >> Do you know we have somebody that was we were talking? >> We were doing that. We looked into that a little bit. >> I know like Nimco was working with us, but this is totally free. The only the
the only issues we've had with looking into uh deals like this is that they often have minimum charges >> and if we don't meet that minimum charge threshold, then you do have to pay. >> Okay. >> To meet the to meet the variance between the usage and what's
>> what's necessary to basically pay for >> Yeah. >> the install in the unit itself. >> Yeah. And so when we looked at it up to this point, maybe there are different deals out there now, but up to this point, we've had a lot there are a lot of vendors that reach out on a regular
basis about, hey, we have these grants and we can put these in for free. >> But there is this threshold of, you know, on a whatever daily weekly basis, if you don't meet this energy usage, then >> guess what? you are going to Yeah,
you're going to meet you're going to um have to pay for the difference. Yeah. So, that was what our hesitancy has been so far. >> Yeah, it's interesting. Like the only requirement they had for Townsen was Wi-Fi network, an exterior Wi-Fi network, which might be the one hiccup
because they needed the service to go to the station, maybe charging station. So just you're right, there's interesting programs out there and just a benefit to those that are visitors or residents in town. So >> yeah, >> interesting. >> I mean, we can I'm happy to if there's a
vendor that you know, I'm happy to talk to because I've talked to a bunch of them. >> Yeah, I'll forward. >> Okay. All right. I move to approve the addition of an electrical vehicle EV charger electrical permit fee of $112 to the town of Dunable's permit fee
schedule effective November 1, 2025. >> I will second discussion. Joan, you have a question. >> Are we really talking about putting 80 charters around our historic capital?
No, that's not the position for this is just for people when they put them in their own houses, >> right? >> Putting the making sure we have a fee for that. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. All's in favor. >> I
up the appointment of Joey Ko for our animal control officer. Um >> Oh, she's with us. How it >> so John John Greenhouse who's been with us for a long time has >> submitted his resume retired. Um so we
want to first thank John for his many years of service. Um be sad to see him go but we have a new fresh face that is willing to take on his role. Um do you want to just give a quick introduction and we have everything in front of us but >> sure if you go.
>> My name is Jody. Um, I currently work for Shirley and Groten as animal control. Um, both new this year. Um, I own a horse farm in Townsen and I own all the cows in Chibet Hill. So, I have a extensive background in livestock and enjoy what I do. So, when John said he
was considering retirement, I figured I would uh try out. >> So, >> yeah, that's excellent. And it sounds like you're doing the position in other towns already, which is great for sort of transferring one time to the other. So, >> yeah. And you'll continue to work for those towns because I know we're part
time. >> Yeah. All both the other towns are on call as well. So, >> okay. >> No. >> I move to appoint Jodie Ko as animal control officer and field driver for the
town of Dunable for a term to expire on June 30th, 2026. Uh second. >> All right. Any further discussion? >> What's a field drive in field? >> All right. Well, I'm curious.
>> I'll let you know what the field you you'll remember when the cow was on the loose. >> Yes. >> We needed to appoint a field driver so that we could deal with that cow issue. And so now >> cow wrangler basically >> basically it allows us to essentially be
proactive and take live do whatever. Should I tell that to the town of Ren? Because we currently have a cow. >> We literally do. We have had a cow out for three weeks now. Three weeks on Saturday. >> It that's what we had to do, you know, just to have the ability to I think it
was, my memory is correct, expend money and then charge the um the owner. That makes sense. Anyway, yeah, that's why. >> So, does that empower Jod to delegate like, hey, there's um 10 cows on the loose. you need to hire extra help or like
>> I I'm just curious. I I know that was an issue. >> I'll I'll look into this a little more, but my my recollection is yes. That's that's why we did it. >> Okay. It's not like an incident command thing. It's you know, she's the field. >> You know the answer. >> I also wouldn't make that decision on my own. >> Good answer. But it's always like
following the hierarchy of things. That's >> Yeah. I mean, we've been tracking this cow. staying in the same neighborhood, but there's conservation land behind it and it goes back to where it came from. So, it's kind of just >> mosying right now. >> Awesome. Thank you so much.
>> All right. All those in favor? >> All right. >> All right. All right. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> So, um, someone will send you a letter to get to see if it's sworn in for this. >> Yes. >> Yeah, I'll be in touch.
>> Awesome. Thank you so much. Okay, the union building contract with GE architects for the interior design. >> So, we reviewed this last week, agreed to go forward with the
>> Gina with Gina. >> So, we have the contract here for us to sign tonight. So they they've um submitted a price proposal as part of the process that you have and then um we're in the process
now of finalizing >> the contract. They use um they use the AIA um draft contract. That's what we used for the exterior. So I don't anticipate a problem with that, but that's um that's still in the works.
>> Okay. Are we holding retainage on on the architecture? >> We are not fully paid out the architect but I don't know I forget how much we we um we do have retainage on the on the
construction side too. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> This is retainage been reduced to >> because the project substantial complete. Um well he he has not received a substantially you know the substantial completion certificate or whatever >> um
>> but um it has been reduced. >> Okay. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I move to award a contract for architectural services to GNAP architects in the amount of $100,000
to design the interior restoration and rehabilitation of the union building and to authorize the chair to sign the contract on behalf of the board. >> Second. >> Is there any further discussion?
None. All those in favor >> I >> All right. Very good. Get that. >> And that is all we have for now for 15 minutes. >> Sure.
Anybody have anything else in the meantime that was not anticipated? >> No. >> I can think of some things. >> No. >> Did we ever get an answer on the bins whether it's textile? Oh, I was wondering about that, too. >> Or is it just
>> No, I think we're waiting to hear from >> Yeah, I copied you on my email, right? >> Yeah, we did. It was great. >> And they did come out and pick up some of the other kinds of junk over there. >> Yeah, people are dumping >> more and more stuff there.
>> When those bins were down on at the farm here, right, they had mattresses out there. >> Oh, yeah. That was >> the one over at Feeasant Lane Mall. I have four. Ah, there's Yeah, TVs. It's almost You got to have your clothes on and watch TV. So, we'll pull the TV
over. You got to look at it. It's a joke. It's just got >> Yeah, >> there's a stove over there. >> The effort to put in the big truck. Yeah, someone will take it. >> No. So, do we want to do a motion to adjurnn till 7 in our advisory frame?
>> We will recess >> or recess. >> Recess. >> Yeah. A motion to recess till 7 by move. >> We're going into recess for 15 minutes. Part: 2
that the unreserved balance will be more in line with what we thought it was um what it should what it should be. Um and again I don't have it yet but I that's what I expect to see. Um and I expect to get it in the next couple days.
>> That's better. That's good. >> Yeah. It was kind of it was a relief for sure. Yeah. from from the end on the advisory. Generally at this historically at this meeting we take positions on the articles. We can table that for the joint meeting if we want to take it
either after this meeting or next week we can do that but uh that is just an option here for us that take positions this evening but it'll be later on after uh after our joint meeting has adjourned. We can continue with our meeting
up to the board and kind of leave it to everyone who want to continue on after this meeting is public. Yeah, probably be next week. Yeah, >> sometime we sometimes do it then. >> We haven't we I Okay, >> I want to say very early on when I first
started we did it once, but generally we do it a little bit earlier, but it's we can do it either way. >> Yep. >> Where did uh the contract? So right now I think it basically took
our discussion from our last meeting which was that we were considering funding in both directions utilization of the uh levy that's available to us or to utilize free cash and basically the way the article is written now is going to propose to the
town's people uh whether or not we want to utilize that available levy or to uh utilize free cash. I would uh I think a lot of people here is more towards utilizing the levy because again my concerns about the free cash balance and what uh we're going to have available
because more than likely we're going to have to fund the general budget for that. I think everyone's in support of moving forward. But >> it's written both ways. >> It's written with both options. Jason, that's swinging it once more for >> So the the article the article 13 the
way it's drafted right now, it allows us to propose to town meeting how we want to fund it. We could we could use a free cash appropriation. We could use the levy. Um
or alternatively we could have two separate articles with one option being free cash, one option being 11. I wrote it as one but what that would require is this group of individuals to make a decision
before town meeting on how we want to the number also changed too. I think that's important >> because it's only for half a year, >> right? Yeah. Just make sure that's clear online for those that have 25K for a half year because that gets us to the
annual town meeting in the spring. >> It would be revisited within the budget, >> right? So get to that. >> I think that's a little confusing to me. So that's why I think it's important to note that. >> Correct. >> So I think I think it's no doubt as a group we all agree that we should move forward with it. It's just a matter of
how are we going to find >> that's really what the question is. So if if that helps >> you understand where we are right now. It's not a matter of whether or not we're going to. It's just a matter of how we're going to fund it >> for the second half of
>> So we could simply propose a budget transfer from school line to fire in in the amount of $25,000 and we would be done with it. we could do that
because we are what we budgeted for the schools was at the higher amount. So, we do have that budget to just transfer the money from one line to the next and that would do it because we're going to have to transfer the money anyway, right? >> Well, no. If if we use free cash, what
would happen is the um under under state law, I just learned this recently, but under state law, the assessors are allowed to when setting a tax rate, they are allowed if if the if the in a regional school district, if the assessment changes between your budget
and when the tax rate set, you can the assess the assessors are allowed to just reduce it themselves without without any uh any further action. So, um, without any action, that would just automatically happen and then we'd have additional we'd have $25,000 more
capacity >> for 27. >> For 27. >> Yeah. It would just roll in. >> Yeah. Yeah. It wouldn't roll in free cash. It would roll into because we're not appropriating everything up to the levy limit. Only appropriating up to what was required. >> So, just for my education, I guess looks
like most of these could be funded from levy or free cash or what? Because the wording is the same one, right? >> For you are correct for article 12 and 13. Article 12 and 13. Yes.
>> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I made I I made it so article 12 and 13 could be funded for either one. >> Yeah, that's right. >> Where does that come from? Is that still confusing or
I find it confusing at times sometimes? >> Yeah, I like to have to explain to me like Michael Scott the office >> I'm set. Any more from the board on the warrant point? >> I think we'll get into discussion. Do we
have consensus >> on how we want to fund EMS and the election? Do we want to just propose a budget transfer under the levy or do we want to do a free cash appropriation or do you want to sit on it?
>> No. Are you comfortable because all of these articles contingent on your free cash. Are you comfortable that we're going to get that information in and get a acknowledgement within the time frame?
>> Get get our free pet certified. I I I feel good about that. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> I I think if we have the room within the capacity, we may as well do it that way. >> If we're trying to stay true to our free cash
>> policy, >> agree. >> The boards usually meet before the town meeting and if the Breeze cash numbers didn't come through, is that a kind of a vote that could be done? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That night. >> Yeah. for those two articles. >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> So, we can only propose it one way at at the special time meeting. Is that what you're saying? >> Well, so um >> in other words, it's open right now. So, free cash is not certified in time. The presentation at special town meeting would be to appropriate the funds from
>> Yes. >> the school over to there. We could still move forward with those articles. >> Yes. Should we write all the rest of the free cash ones that way so that we have that opportunity because they would all fit underneath? I don't know that we have enough capacity to do that.
>> We're pretty close, I think. No. >> Can we do an either or in the motion? >> It'd be it'd be we don't we wouldn't have quite enough to do that. >> It's close. It's close. >> So, what's the downside there? and say
we have an extra but within the levy limit you have a difference of ballpark pay number but >> 60,000 61 I think it is >> and we can't just like >> encumber that for the future years schools now right that's almost like a
stabilization fund for the school right >> so why don't you say that so so what why they I guess enacted that um that law with the board of assessors is I guess it started regional school district partners. Some
would approve an override, some wouldn't. And what they were doing was raising >> to the higher amount and let's banking it every year, right? You know, so it was happening on occasion where communities just were like, "Oh, well, we, you know, it was approved. Let's just raise it and then let it fall and
let's bank it for a rainy day." And that was never really the intent of it. Um so that's why they allowed automatically go down um as part of the tax [Music] in that case I would 25k take it out of the le >> it's got to be
>> yeah it sounds >> the residents already voted on it once before and we will explain to them that it can't go back to the school anyways so let's use it and not you know keep maintain our free cash program policies that we set forth here during the time
>> are the other articles one time or the current expenses So the other articles are both grant matches for >> for um >> yeah for capital. So they're one times and then the special election for state
senate. Um that's that's a >> that's a one time. >> That's a one time measure. >> Yes. >> But we could raise that too. We could transfer that out of the schools. >> But emergency medical is something that will be ongoing. All the rest are just
one time. >> That's very good. >> Correct. >> Correct. Correct. >> Yeah. It's very tangible like the schools are very important. So was first responders and >> the reduction in service time for life-saving ambulances and ALS and things like that. >> But the reason I asked that is pretty
fun time thing is the levy is not taken up for the second half of the full cost of the ambulance in 2017. So the full cost in 27. So we appropriated. Yeah. We'd still have another 25,000. That would be a reoccurring cost.
>> Uh yeah. Yeah. >> Yes. >> It's it's one of those things. There's several art. We're going down to the annual town meeting was several other recurring costs. Even some we'll talk about here. We first tonight and
additional other recording costs that we don't have capacity under the levy right now. So >> So the general election for state senator, is there any chance that's going to be the same time as our town election?
>> It's February 3rd and March 3rd, I believe. >> I think that's right. >> Okay. So the primary is a month before the general. >> Yes. That would save every town money. >> Yeah, >> but you know we're not. Why would we do that?
>> Well, but you know town elections are different. >> You see that term that term expires pretty quick. >> They do especially election. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's up again. They actually start running for
reelection already. >> Yeah. >> I don't know. [Music] >> Do we need to do anything in the motion? >> Yeah, we can deal with that motion. I just um
just hoping the select board will approve the warrant and sponsor the article so that we can post it. Um >> I think we're good. >> Yeah. As long as Yeah. As long as you're comfortable with what it is. >> I move to approve the special town meeting warrant to be presented to the
residents of the town of Dunable at the special town meeting on Monday, November 17th, 2025 as presented. And further move that the select board
will is sponsoring articles 1 45 8 9 10 11 12 and 13 on the special town meeting warrant. Second.
>> We've had enough discussion. Is there any more? No, we're good. All those in favor? I >> um the classification study that we're going to we're not taking it on this night, are we? We're just >> No, just
>> reviewing it tweaking from last time. >> Yeah, just a review um and just seeking feedback and input before um it comes to board. for consideration for a vote. So, we've
talked about this already. Um, so I'll just give a high level overview and then, um, let let you all take it from there. So, um, the major changes, unless you want me
to, I'm not going to walk through the whole presentation. I think we found that, but >> um, so the major changes is the the current uh schedule is a 20 it varies, but it's meant to be a 20 20%
range from minimum to maximum step. Um the new recommendation the range um is a 30% minimum to maximum. Uh the sk the step schedule um I've
included the schedules in your um in your packet. I um I included both a 10step and a 15step schedule. The current step, the current schedule is a 10step schedule
with 2% increases between steps. Um, based on kind of my review and analysis, the proposal is to keep 10 steps but increase to 3% between steps. Um, and then advancement,
the current schedule is every 3 years. So every 3 years, an employee gets the cola plus an additional 2%. um this new proposal based on the minimum maximum um schedule um employees
would get a 3% uh step >> every two every two years. Um so that's the that's the high level overview. We we worked with the Colin Center as I think everyone knows on this. Um you have the final report from
them. Not only did they look at surrounding communities, but they interviewed um employees, they updated job descriptions, they made some recommendations on job title changes. Um and so based on all that research and
work and survey data um they made these recommendations um based on the 12 communities that responded to our survey externally and then intern tried to do our do their best to recommend some
internal or ensure internal equity based on complexity of duties um of positions at with the town. Um, I think that's that's I think that's about it. That's kind of the high level review.
Anyone has questions or feedback? I did I did include a rough estimate. um >> based on some I I'll call it conceptual estimates because that's what we just use for larger field but um the cost comparisons
between the current and new schedule [Music] I guess so after 20 years somebody will be at the Yeah. Yeah. That was one of the major drivers for the 2-year
recommendation for first step just because it felt like a 30-year um uh tenure to get to this top step was a lot. Um,
you know, probably mo I would gather that most employees probably aren't going to be there for 30 years. So I want seemed that seemed like 20 was an attainable. >> Is 3 is 3% like the maximum step
increase or is it just always 3%. But I guess where I'm going with it. Is there any performance evaluation that goes into >> not not as it's currently conceived just as long as you're there >> it's if you're doing if you're there and
you're doing your your job um you get a 3% step and and it should be noted just so I don't understand I want to be clear so the 3% is on top of the cola so there'll be a cola it has generally been
2% in here. Um, so on those step years, people would get the three plus the two. So it' be five total. Just so just so that's clear. >> Cola comes from fence. >> No, it's just the cost of living that we
that we kind of benchmark against. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It's I guess what I want to know is >> we do. >> Yes. >> Yeah. I mean like when the inflation rate was 9% was that last year or the year before and our employees who are
pretty good employees get 2%. >> Doesn't really seem like that helps a little bit but not a lot. So, you know, we think I I'll speak for myself as a select board member, like I think it's important to maintain being a good employer and keeping our tenure staff
here, keeping them returning. And we've been pretty fortunate that we have a lot of great employees that, you know, we we're not breaking the bank paying them, but we're paying them a good wage. I think it's appropriate to look at growth and being competitive in the marketplace
over time to keep people coming back. >> So, so we just so we just picked we just picked >> So, yeah, it's it's generally been 2%. Um, and I think that's kind of what it
you it's been historically even before before I've been. >> But yeah, I mean it varies among among communities too, Leo. Like some get three, some get one, some have years that they can't afford any, you know, it does >> it does vary based on community.
>> We've had years of zero. It's okay. >> We don't guarantee it. Like it's Yeah. So it's a budget process. sort of a random Adam said random but that's not there's no benchmark that it's time to just >> not really but it's a fair because it is
a fair point like what how does our polar compare to what others are giving like yeah >> yeah that's really where it is we try to retain people >> yeah I mean informally I'm a member of um the small town administrators um
Massachusett whatever it's called Stan. Yeah. And so informally around budget time, inevitably someone sends an email on our lister to say, "What's everyone giving for?" So, you know, we get bad feedback. Generally speaking, it's not lower than 2%, but you know,
there are times when when um towns are going through a tough time. So, >> yeah. And this is probably too It sounds like it's just linear 3%. >> Yeah. So right now >> it's not it's not where you go. It's not easy to make it.
>> Yeah. So right now it's sorry right now the model is um is the same you know it's 10 steps 2%. So it is more the range is higher um and it has been updated based on 25 numbers.
>> John did you have a question? Yeah, I just uh um I can't remember if I've asked this question before or not, but how much more is this new
plan going to cost us compared to what we pay? >> Yeah, >> yeah, it's it's um it's re this is really rough. I did my best on it. So, I I really hope you understand and I I'm
not guaranteeing this is the this is going to be the difference, but I did my best with estimating. It's about a $7,500 difference between what we do now and what we're proposing. That's that's basically what it comes down to. In some
years, could be more based on if you had, you know, four employees all hitting the 3% because it's their third it's their third year like that. might you might see it go might be $34,000 and then the following year it could drop back down based on the cycle. Um I tried
to sniff that out. >> I tried to model that the best I could. That's why I'm really hesitant with these numbers. I tried to model that >> the best I could and that's what that's another reason why I averaged it out over a period of time rather than >> Yeah. So collectively it's about a
$7,500 increase for wage increases each year of around $27,000. >> Yeah. >> That's the >> compared to 19 let's say >> it's >> 195 26 I think it's 19,000 versus 265.
>> The difference between the current to that >> 7500 >> 7500. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Okay. And that's that's on average. So there'll be fluctuations. >> What are we supposed to be looking at on
this last page? >> That's the current SK. Well, that's the last time the schedule was up. >> People on this list or 21. >> Well, the positions though regard the names. >> Yeah, the names can go away. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. It's a fair
question. Yes. >> People that have filled in the the positions that aren't here anymore. What's >> Oh, yeah. I What what I I shared it really for just so you knew what the sk the step range and schedule was um last
time this was was looked at. And then you also can tell what positions are within each grade right now. That's that's the that's the reason I just to so you had a comparison between what
existed and what is being proposed. That's all. But no, you're right. You're right. There's a lot of there's been a lot of turnover since then. I guess as a as a town it's important to note that if all of a sudden we had four or five people leave that we the like
finding employees right now is pretty challenging within this world and affording them is as well >> you know there's I guess there's four employees that are lower than the lowest step so it would be a one time bump >> and we would not drop anyone That's
right. >> How much cost? >> Just individual. I'll get I could get you that. Yeah. [Music] >> Some people are getting some people are getting larger adjustments than I I don't think I did not know. I should
should have how people are going to how I'm proposing people get placed on the new schedule is whatever their current hourly rate is move them to the higher but closest step to what they're currently making so that
like you said so they're not going backwards and losing money. So they go to so in the implementation phase if this if this is um endorsed and approved there different employees will get different adjustments based on the
schedule really. So some will get more some will get less. It's just that's the only way I can think of implement implementing it. But yeah, there are some employees I think it's yeah, four employees that are lower than
the lowest step in their grade. You know, three employees that make higher than the highest cap and that's mostly because of tenure. Um, and then there are I have one, there might be two, but
there are let's say a couple job um titles that don't match the position that we may look at um adjusting. Do >> we need a motion for us to approve this? >> I don't
think so. I was I mean I just really I mean if you if you want to kind of take this with you and offer feedback to me um whenever you whenever you have the time I'm happy to take more feedback and look
at options if if that's what if that's what the boards want. Um I mean I I put a proposal together just based on the data that was presented and what I thought was the fairest way um fairest way to implement it. But if there are
other ideas or other thoughts, I'm I'm very much open to it. So the only deviations from the recommendation was changing from a 30-year schedule to a 20-year schedule and from 2% to 3%. per step. Per step every three years
versus 10. >> Yeah. And then um right advancement every two instead of four years. >> So it's 10 steps instead of 50. >> So every two years you get 3% on top of
the 1% one or two% sorry% whatever. Yeah. >> So, those are those are the three that's a good way to just >> narrow it down. Those are the big changes. A 30% from a 20% range to a 30%
range. Um the steps the advancement from three years to two years >> and what was the third one
2% 2% 3% per step >> 3% >> step thank you 2% >> it's two it's going from two to 3% per step in a step every two years in a 20
Yeah, >> I'd have to agree. I mean, people staying in one place for 30 years is almost >> unheard of at this point. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Three years on average. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We're very fortunate here. >> Well, we want to keep our people.
>> Yeah. We've got some great employees. >> Two months. >> No. I hope so. I hope so. >> 10 times. >> So, I think we're good. We don't really have anything else on our agenda this evening. >> No, no, but seriously, if you have any,
I'm I'm very willing to take that. So, >> so are most towns doing this 2% every two years? um you don't necessarily it varies like um the uh I know the town of Gratenwood just went through a very
similar um review and study and they use the same calling center that we used and um I actually don't think they're going forward um with a step they found that their employees are within the ranges
that they were recommended and I think they're sticking Yep. So, I mean, and I know Pepper is going through it now just cuz I talked to them a lot, both of them. Um, but I think they're still in in progress. Um,
so I don't think any recommendations have come out of that yet or recommendations to implement either. So, um, that that will be forthcoming. But no, I I communities choose to implement it in in different ways >> and I would imagine the recommendations
came from what they're seeing as averages. We're just looking to try to be a step above what the average is or based upon the town they had told in order to come up with a schedule their recommendation. We're just recommending a slightly different one based upon the
fact of employee retention and opportunity and given the limited number of employees that we do have here, you know, giving them some incentive to stick around as opposed to if I were to
>> thanks to Jason, we're actually for the first time in our history paving. >> No, we we've had this before. We've done this before. It's very >> We haven't had >> No, we never did. We did not.
>> They they well done. This is not something that it's sufficiently grounded in data and um you had a management institute involved in it. >> It was our personnel board that did it
last time. It was yeah >> they they were super helpful. They did they didn't develop the implementation >> but they were but they were very much a resource for me. >> They were done the right way and with
the standard which is important right >> all right I think we're good for our select board folks are going to continue on. We'll just do we want to have a vote or take positions tonight or we want to wait for next week. It's up to I'm okay
with a meeting next week. >> We we will. Yes. >> We do need to Yeah. >> Yeah. You guys can we can discuss what our meeting. >> Well, I'll take a motion to adjurnn. >> So moved.
>> Second. >> In favor. All right. >> All right. Thanks, Kate. >> Thank you.