Did you see that? Yeah. What's that? Go ahead and get started. >> To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. K, could you do the roll call? >> Mr. Steinberg, >> here. >> Mrs. Rooric >> here. >> Mr. White >> here. >> Mr. Lewis >> here. >> Mayor Whittington >> here.
All right. So, we'll open up the meeting for public comments that aren't on the agenda for tonight. Anyone? All right. We'll close that and move on to approval of the agenda. Any ads, moves, or changes?
We look uh for approval of the agenda as published. >> Motion. We have a first and second. All in favor? >> I. >> All opposed. All right. So, next will be the approval of the meeting minutes from
last March 2nd. >> Anyone? Motion. >> We have a first. >> Second. >> Have a first and a second. All in favor? >> All opposed. All right, we'll move on to the consent agenda.
Look for a motion for to approve or if anyone wants to pull out anything in the cons consent agenda. >> Make a motion to approve. >> We have a first. >> Second. >> We have a first and a second. >> Any other discussions? All in favor?
>> All opposed? All right, we'll go we'll start into the first the public hearing for the special assessment. >> All right. Uh mayor and city council, we have Brian Sarf, uh city engineer in the audience with us. Uh he has prepared a presentation and I will put that up on
the large screen. Um the purpose of the hearing tonight is to um review the proposed uh assessment role and um allow members of the public that are affected by the property to provide their input
and uh following discussion by the council uh you will have the opportunity opportunity to go ahead and adopt that rule um if there are no changes. So, I will go ahead and turn it over to Brian Sarf. >> Good evening, Mr. Mayor and City
Council. Just have a brief presentation here to set up the public hearing for tonight. Uh the outline for tonight, we're just going to review the location and background of the project. Uh talk about the existing conditions as well as proposed improvements, look at the
project cost, and talk a little bit about the assessment uh process. >> Uh Mayor Woodington, may I interrupt? Is it possible for Council Rorich's microphone to go to the podium or could we scoot the podium over a little bit further? Um, just so those viewing from
home can hear. Um, that microphone's not um doesn't seem like it's picking up very well. >> Y, no problem. My voice does not very well, so it's all right. There it goes. Is that better?
All right. So, one thing uh just do want to talk about a little bit is construction related issues are really not best handled at this hearing. Um so, if uh as we're just getting into construction, as we uh have those issues, those are going to
be best handled outside of this hearing and by contacting us directly. All right. So, the project limits. I've been through this a few times. Um, but really we're looking at Lassour Avenue between Linda and Agency,
Maywood between Diane and Agency, Diane Drive between Maywood and Lassour, Plain View Street between Lassour and Parkway, Third Street between Maywood and Parkway, Second Street between Maywood and Parkway. Uh and that project area
was included in the city's capital improvement plan uh prior to initiating this project. Uh so a little bit of uh background on where we've been to this point. Feasibility study was conducted and
authorized on uh back in 2004 August by the city council. We had the improvement hearing that following November. city received bids and awarded construction uh last May about a year ago. Construction is just beginning here
uh in late March and uh here we are tonight at the assessment hearing. Um this next slide should just have a kind of a map of the project as I just said vocally here. Again, that that location hasn't really changed since the
project began. Existing conditions uh fairly typical. This is all original infrastructure. Uh 8 to 10 inch clay pipe uh for the sewer. Corroing 4 to 8 in cast iron water mane.
Um certainly some brakes uh leading up to the project. Uh storm sewer is currently 12 to 21 in mostly concrete pipes and some of the areas of the project uh were lacking in storm sewer. Terms of the street
surface, typically about a 30 foot wide uh street. A couple of those, plain view and third being a little bit narrower than the standard. Uh and most of it already had curbon gutter with an asphalt surface. Uh although that surface was deteriorating and in poor
conditionwalk was not prevalent everywhere. Um it was existing on north side of Lassour, west side of second street and on the west side of Diane and plain view. So, for proposed improvements, we've got underground utilities being fully
reconstructed with this project. Uh, generally new 8 to 10 inch PVC sewers with new concrete manholes and gasketed joints. And that's really to uh prevent the inflow and infiltration of groundwater into the sewer system.
Also with this project, we've got 8 to 12 inch PVC water mane replacing the hydrants. Uh also replacing and adding isolation valves for public works to operate the system. New sewer and water services, those
would be constructed from this the main and the street all the way up to the property line. Not included with the city's contract per se. Uh but as part of the contract, there was new private gas mains and services
in uh installed by Centerpoint Energy. Most of that was done in 2025. Uh they do have one more block here to do this year. Other private utilities uh being relocated, more minor, but there is some communications being relocated as part
of the project and some power poles as well. In terms of the street surface, uh what's being replaced is a 36 foot urban roadway. Uh that's standard for the city that
includes a couple of driving lanes, some room for parking on the edges and concrete curb and gutter. Uh I had mentioned the existing surface for plane view and third was a little narrower. um that's more or less being uh replaced in
kind uh plus or minus just because of the space constraints on those streets. In terms of ped pedestrian accommodation, sidewalks are uh are being replaced where they currently exist. Five feet is typical uh for a
boulevard. Um on those areas where it's right up next to the curb, that would be a sixoot sidewalk for a little bit of more buffer there. Uh, and as part of the project, kind of a another item would just be the boulevard restoration, whether that be
the grass or the driveway aprons that get uh torn out as part of the project. Looking at the project cost, I have a just a brief breakdown here. Uh with streets coming in at about 2.9 million, sanitary
571,000, water main 940,000, storm sewer 551,000 with a total project cost of just over a million dollars estimated. That also includes engineering, financing costs,
legal, that sort of thing. Now, really what uh most people are probably here for tonight, special assessments. Uh so, I've included uh kind of a recap of the city's current assessment policy. Uh really, it's an ordinance.
Uh I'm not going to read that for you. Um this was a spoiler alert, wasn't used for this project. Um but th those are kind of the typical rates that are are currently adopted by the city. those were adopted. Uh I I don't know when uh
quite a long time ago at this point. So just for a little bit of reference uh we did calculate uh an assessment using that policy for a typical 80oot parcel uh for a residential lot. We were coming up coming up with about $29,000
assessment if we followed that to the tea. So, as with a previous project, the city decided to hire uh a third party to complete a special benefit analysis for this project. The findings of this report were discussed at a special
meeting uh about a year ago on April 7th. the proposed assessment amounts were reduced significantly from the preliminary estimates uh or the current policy might be the better way to pull uh put that and that's consistent with
uh really all of the projects in the last 15 years or so that the pro uh that the city has done. Proposed assessment amounts for each property is based on the special analysis uh and were provided in the mailed notice for tonight's assessment
hearing. Up here we'll have a map, not really intended for you to be able to read it. What you might be able to take away um from this uh the bluer colored parcels up there are non-residential. That'd be your
school, uh your other businesses, that type of thing. don't really fall into the same category. Uh so kind of a few on the fringes of the project there. And then we've also got the yellow which are going to be your single family residential type properties which are
really all treated similar in the special benefit analysis. In terms of the process, final assessments uh will be certified to the county auditor and added to your property tax statement in 2027.
These assessments can be prepaid with no interest if paid within 30 days of the adoption of this assessment. Remaining principal and acred interest can be prepaid in future years as well uh with no penalty. Prepayments made after November 15th of
the given year that uh the payment is made will incr of that year. The term of the assessment is proposed at 6% interest over 20 years. That's kind of following uh the bond. Uh for
those that do not decide to prepay and let those assessments go onto your tax statement, city council may at its discre discretion defer payment of an assessment for qualifying individuals that apply to the city administrator
within 30 days of the assessment. No appeal to district court may be taken as to the amount of an assessment unless a written objection signed by the property owner is filed with the administrator prior to the assessment
hearing or at the assessment hearing tonight. Additional information was also included in the mailed notice uh about tonight's hearing. With that, I don't have any
further presentation, but I'm happy to take any questions that the council or or the public has once we open them once we open the hearing. >> Anything else, Jennifer, you want to add before we get going? Um I guess the only thing I would just
want to maybe reiterate is uh we as with our uh agency street project uh we did have some requests for deferments. So if individuals qualify under the eligibility requirements they can request a deferment. Um and we have had
a couple calls about that. So, we'll make sure that um if the council chooses to adopt the assessment role this evening, uh while it's not legally required, I will go ahead and send out a final a notice of this is the final assessment amount. It's been approved by
the council. And again, just remind people if you qualify under that special deferment and you'd like to exercise your right to use that to let us know at city hall within the time frame allowed and um we'll go ahead and get that uh put into place.
Other than that, uh there is a copy of the assessment role in your packet and I think Brian Surf did a great job covering everything. Um I think I think he hit on all the points and we'll just answer questions as they come up.
>> If you have questions or anything, please come up to the microphone. Um state your name and your address, right? It's kind of the normal spiel. Anyone have questions, concerns? We're done. We're moving past this.
How do we So, it doesn't look like we have anything here, right? So, how do we close the public hearing? >> After you ask, I think at least three times. Three times. >> Excuse me. Sorry, I didn't have my microphone on. There's no questions or
comments, you can close it. Um, I should also mention another question I I received from some of the affected property owners was if I'd like to pay my assessment in full to avoid incurring any interest, how much time do I have? So, after adoption of the assessment role this evening, they have 30 days to
come in and pay it in full and they can avoid occurring any interest. So, and the other option too is if uh affected properties um uh want to pay it it pay it off in years two and three,
they absolutely can do that. So, um there's just some different options out there. We'll spell that all out again in the the notice of the final adopted >> uh assessment amount. So, >> all right, we'll ask again for any questions or concerns.
Any questions and concerns from the audience? And for the third time, any questions or concerns? Feel like a parrot. Um, okay. So, I think we'll we need a motion
to close the public hearing. Is that what we need or what do we need to? >> I'll look for a motion to close the public hearing. I'll make that motion first. Do we have a second? >> All in favor? >> All opposed? All right. So, the public
hearing is closed. >> I think the presentation's right back to you, Brian. Uh I think next up, unless the council wants to take action right away on the um new business item number one, uh we have Shannon Sweeney with David Drone Associates in the audience and he's
going to talk to you about the sale of bonds to finance this project. >> Nice to see you tonight. >> Mayor, good evening. The action item that I have in your packet that we'll be discussing is a resolution that
initiates the public sale of bonds to fund the project that we were just discussing. Ultimately, uh we are looking at doing a competitive bond sale, which means we draft an offering document that describes the
the financial capabilities of the city to pay the debt back and we would look to purchase a credit rating from standard andors which evaluates the creditworthiness once again and we would market those things to the world and
ultimately receive bids that we're looking to solicit on May 4th is when we receive bids and present them to the city council that same evening for the purchase of your bonds. So, we've sized this at approximately
$5.2 2 million based on our project budget. Uh having to finance some interest associated with initial payments before we collect our first tax levy. Uh those sorts of things. And ultimately in evaluating and structuring
it, we've looked at a 20-year term for the bond issue, which is pretty consistent with what we're using on street utility reconstruction projects. Based on the life of asphalt and the chances of you to reinvest in that asphalt in not too long of time after
this is paid off. And so uh ultimately uh that plays into how we look at funding these things because we don't want to have debt or assessments outstanding when we have to do our next project associated with maintaining that
street. Um based on current market conditions, we estimated the interest rate at about 3.8%. uh things remain stable until our sale date on May 4th. That's what our expectation is for interest on the debt.
That would produce an annual debt service payment of about $371,000 per year. Based on allocating that debt service amongst the enterprises impacted, we would have a tax levy of approximately $170,000.
We'd be pulling water fund revenues of $73,000 for debt service, wastewater revenues of about 44,000 and storm sewer revenues of about 43,000 a year. The special assessments are also part of
that revenue streams that's necessary to one uh help offset a little bit of the tax levy, but it's also required in order to issue improvement bonds under Minnesota statute to finance the reconstruction of the street portion of the project.
uh you know assessments aren't pleasant or welll liked but ultimately they enable us to fund street reconstruction uh in a manner that uh has fewer implications with regard to our ability to borrow for other projects. And so uh
those assessments are necessary in this instance to issue those improvement bonds to to fund the street portion of the project cost. So uh I Say the other important items to note, you know, again, 20-year term on
the bond issue. Right now, I'm using a call date. That's the first opportunity to prepay of February 1st of 2033. It's pretty standard to have seven or eight years of call protection, meaning
an inability to prepay during that time. uh as ultimately it will impact the bids that we receive for the purchase of the bonds by increasing the interest rate somewhat if we reduce that prepayment
period. And so given the size of the issue, I thought it was more important to get as low an interest rate as possible and meet market expectations with the call date. That's pretty standard. Again, this would be a competitive sale.
Uh the size of the issue is significant enough that it uh will generate biders and we typically see four or more biders on a deal this size from regional underwriting firms that purchase these
bonds and then resell them to investors. So, uh, working with staff on updating our projections on your enterprise funds and what we need to do with regard to uh,
water, sewer, and storm sewer rates going forward. I expect we'll be back before you in the next month or so with recommendations for discussion on what we need to look at. Uh, with that, I'm happy to answer your questions with regard to the resolution
that's included in your packet that calls for a public sale of I do have a question, mayor and city council. Uh, Shannon, will our local banks receive the same notification if they wanted to have an opportunity to bid? Uh, I know it might not be as
competitive. Uh, >> sure. >> Or they might not be as competitive, but >> in this instance, given the size >> Okay. This would, you know, in our valuation provide the lowest overall cost of borrowing. Typically, the underwriters
that are bidding on this are going to be contacting all of your local banks as potential customers to purchase a portion of the bond issue. So, we expect that they would have a chance. It doesn't always work out that way, but generally, you know, a fair amount of
the time it does because uh banks tend to purchase larger blocks and ultimately underwriters like making fewer phone calls when they're selling bonds. So, >> thank you. >> Any questions from the council about the
bonds in the process? So, you'll be back next our next meeting to kind of go through Yes, on utility enterprise funds. And then on May 4th is when we'd have our sale
>> and that's when we'd present the bids received. In the meantime, we're gonna run your staff through the middle a little bit preparing for a rating call for the bond issues. >> They're up to it. >> They are. They are. We'll do.
>> Turn around. Make sure things aren't flying at me. Any other questions, Mr. Sweeney? >> I think we're good to go. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Do we want to
do we need to do that motion first for the bond sale first on them? >> You guys could take action on that or you could wait until we get to the new business. If you want to do um fire chief kus with the updated >> pricing for communications first.
>> Evening chief. >> Good evening city council and mayor. Now we're on >> everybody hear me? >> Perfect. Um so back before you guys tonight um we did receive a second bid uh from Freedom Securities um for the
access system for the fire department. Um and then the bid was updated from WW Communications. Um so there would be four access points uh basically there's four doors on the station. Um so you should have those numbers in your packets I believe once Jennifer has them
up on the board. Um it would be the fire department's recommendation to move forward with WW communications. Um any questions? >> My question is what you know when we do that we end up with two different door
access systems, right? >> Because we currently have a door access system for the park and other places. Is that correct? >> That I do not know. >> Just the park. just down the park. But that system can be expanded via four
doors as far as I understand. >> Yes. Yep. So, we have that set up. And so, if we wanted to add um uh >> Is that part of the bid from Freedom? Is that >> a key card to city hall? We could we could do that. It's not part of this bid that's in the package. What I mean is
adding the fire department four doors to the current environment >> and is the bid that we got from Freedom does it reflect a separate system or just the expansion of the current? >> I guess that'd be a question for >> Mr. Bales with Freedom Security is in
the audience this evening probably for two purposes. This and then also the special assessment hearing. So if if he would like to come up and address the council on that question. Um question is it's pretty standard for council to go to request two bids which we have
>> and unless there's a good reason we go low bid >> sure >> freedom security it's low bid why are you recommending I'm talking why are you recommending WW high bid over freedom >> so it would be our recommendation um based on my experience in working with
uh WW and that system um so for allowing people access to the fire department we get new members on or members that retire. Um that one I am comfortable with working on. Um whereas the other one I don't know if there'd be training involved with that. Um the other uh thing that we didn't want to deal with
from ease of billing um every month is there are uh subscription fees per month. >> So I guess remind me. So one of the reasons why we want to change this is because we can't really program the current locks. So, the current locks are
basically end of life. Um, we could do new keypads on there if we wanted to. Um, the nice thing about going with an access system is you can track who's coming and going um into that building. Uh, just with all the equipment that we have in there and the price of some of that stuff, we thought that would be a
good idea. >> How much would it cost just to get reprogrammable locks put on? Because I think 11,000 for four-door seems like an awful lot. If we did go with WW is what I think 9,000 for for Freedom, >> correct? Yep. >> You know, I know it's kind of a ways
off, but I know at some point we would like to get a new fireh hall. Um I just seems like an awful lot of money. >> Sure. >> If all we want to do is just secure the doors, >> I'm sure if we wanted to update the locks at the station, we could just with
a similar keypad that we have on there. Um, but then it's just a matter of programming all those and and doing the codes for everybody. >> The way things are heading in the security world, having that log is becoming more and more important when people come and go, those kind of
things. Um, so I would think I wouldn't want to go back to the other locks because knowing that at some point we're going to have to start logging it with either system. Um, but I'm a big proponent of, you
know, a single system. Um, just freeze of, you know, we know who to call when we can't get in the door. Those kind of things. And also support maintenance, those kind of things are usually more compact and a little easier to do. Um,
so, well, correct me if I'm wrong, too. I thought the quote was going to involve like public works as well along with city hall. Did I misunderstand? I thought we were going to get a quote for like multiple buildings, not just the fire hall. Maybe I misremembered too.
>> I know that was brought up by uh Mayor Whittington. I did not do anything with >> No, I think it was that fact that we wanted to make sure it was expandable to those when we got there and that we wouldn't buy a system of that we had to do a serious upgrade to add those. So,
that was the question. I believe last time making sure they had capacity. >> Sure. >> We want to put it in full and then al >> and we would need to budget for that. I did talk to Mr. Bales about that as well. We when we put in the cameras and
excuse me the door key fob thing down at the um the park. It was because we had one-time funding and we would want to budget for this for city hall. So um but I did have a good conversation with Mr. Bales today about kind of how this whole
um system would work and if there's an opportunity he could talk a little bit about um what he had shared with me um if you guys would be interested or have any questions. >> I think that would make sense since he's here already. Um and the question I think about you know why put it on this
one if we're going to build a new fireh hall. They're all transferable. So it's just wiring that we lose you know moving forward. you know, we take the >> well looking at the hardware. The hardware is not really the cost. It's the installation and all that. So, I
feel like if we're going to get a fireh hall, we'd be looking at the same amount of money anyways for the most part. And by then, it'll probably be new, fancier keypads I would probably want to upgrade anyway. So, I mean, >> yeah, that's true. >> I don't know. I just I feel like it's a lot of money.
>> You know, nine or $11,000. I feel like a keypad would be just as sufficient, but Would you like the opportunity to speak or No, >> sure. >> Perfect. >> I think one of the questions I think
Chief brought up was ongoing monthly fees that are prevalent in your bid but not in the WW bid and what that actually means. >> All right. >> So, I will start with that one first
since it was brought up. So um the recurring fees that I have proposed in this solution. So it's it's uh how do I put this? They don't do public speaking very well. Okay. Just going to put that out there.
>> Don't even want to look. Um, so the solution that I put forward here for the fireh hall is technically different than what we put in at the parks. >> Okay, >> I did that for a reason and I had a plan
for it and this is the venue to dis to discuss this plan. So I decided that if I add added access control to another city site, I would take the equipment that I have installed
at parks, reclaim this equipment, install the equipment that matches this quote >> so the city can expand on that system. Now, I'm doing that for two reasons. one because I'm heavily invested in the city
and two I believe that uh if I have a new solution which I do have since I installed the parks that I would factor that in to my uh proposal and provide the city with that added uh benefit. Now
the benefits are multiffold but first and foremost whether we talk about the system that's installed at the parks or whe they talk about the new system I propose here but the system at the parks currently is a cloud-based it's actually a hybrid cloud-based access control system which is designed to be
multi-sight so you've already invested in this server and then you can add controllers at other sites provided you have internet connections and there's really no limit to doors it's in a thousand. So, it's way beyond what would you would be concerned with.
And the way that system works is you bought a server that you have to maintain and keep operating. It's a mini PC that sits at the parks. The cloud portion of it is you log on to the software. It gets you from there to the box.
This part here is the cloud part. This part here is the part that uh at the current moment you don't pay for, but you have to buy this box and then maintain this box. Computers, five to seven years. That's kind of your average. You spend $2,000, you get a computer for five to seven years. Five to seven years later, you buy another
one. Boot that box up again. Keep going. Sorry. So, um I've run the numbers over and over and over again, but on a multid-door access control system, um you are money ahead on the capital and money ahead on the five-year capital of
your recurring with this solution. Meaning that if you do a Paxton 10 solution like we have at the parks, you buy a server and you buy all the controllers versus the same with the virtual keypad
and $3 a month for your access into the cloud. It pays for itself in the course of five years. >> So it's $3 per access door. >> Yep. So in this case, you'd have $12 a month for every door for access into the cloud. Now that $12 gets you your access
into the system. It maintains the connections between your interface being the internet and that controller. And then it also does automatic backup. So it's a true cloud solution where we have the data locally stored in the controller and we have data stored in
the cloud backed up every day. Um it's really easy to use. Um so that's the difference between subscriptionbased nonsubscription based. Um, you know, no one likes subscriptions, but there's a reason for it. And the reason for them is is that
they have to continually maintain the environment because everything is web- based or app based. So they have to maintain apps, they have to web uh web browsers. Um, so that's the difference between what we have here uh today, what
I'm proposing, and what we've installed at the parks. So to reiterate, we have two door controllers and a server and two card readers. The parks, we would take that physical hardware out. We would put in the new DMP virtual keypad hardware in and tie it into this
system on the back end of said proposal. Um, and then we would take that equipment, stock it, reuse it at other customer sites that have existing systems and try and recoup some of our costs. So for the 9,000 we you're going to upgrade the hardware at the park and
then add four doors. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Yep. And then I did also have a optional cost center on here to add keypad readers in lie of standard card readers. >> Um there's two components to that card
reader. So it's not just a regular card reader. It's a what we call a digital key card reader. And then it also has keypad. So um a lot of systems in access control today are moving to smart credentials.
I would say well pretty much all of them except a virtual keypad. All of them are Bluetooth. And if anyone's ever dealt with Bluetooth, it's finicky and frustrating and doesn't work when you want it to. The digital keys for this virtual keypad are actual NFC embedded
keys. They dump right into your wallet on your phone. your phone is dead, it'll still work. Um, so I have an optional cost center that basically says if you want to add keypad readers, um, cost is X and then there would be a
deduct on the original cost center. So it basically works out to be a $250 a door adder to uh add the keypad style readers. Um,
what else? I think that's about it. >> Okay. >> Could I ask a question, mayor and city council? Okay. So, Mike, the 1,600 would be deducted from >> Yeah. >> the 2600, >> right? You deduct Could you explain that
to me again? I just want to make sure I'm writing that down. Right. >> Yeah. you would basically add the 26 and then deduct the 16 >> is what that statement says. >> Okay. >> So, these are the additional costs to add those reads. >> Yep. >> Got it. Thank you. >> Um, we could do keypad readers that are cheaper than this,
>> but they wouldn't have the NFC built into them. >> So, it's just a matter of pros and cons. The other side of that coin too is that um I don't know how many keypad readers the other coat had on it, but you you got two doors into each bay. So you
really need maybe two keypad readers, if not just one, right? Because if someone's if it's a convenience item, you need the convenience item at all four doors. >> Now, what what's the keypad reader usually used for? Like one time entrance codes or things like that or
>> delivery drivers? Because you whether you have a digital key or a hard key, >> there's a five-digit number embedded in there. So if you memorize your number, you wheel up to the door, you key in that code, it's just like you presented your car. >> Okay.
>> Um, and then there was another cost saver. What was it? Oh, I wanted to answer your question about the cipher locks. Cipher locks uh are traditionally very much of a pain in the butt. Um, they're expensive to put in. They're expensive
to maintain and they're really just a really a cost drain on set department. So today, I mean, I saw the report. I don't know when it was, but $1,600. You got four cipher locks. You would probably spend more than that on one today.
>> Probably better better than half of the cost of the access control system. >> Have to be pro programmed into all each individual cipher lock. >> Yeah. >> Deleted from each individual. >> Yeah. you you you'd be you'd be starting over and you actually have you have two
generation of cipher locks there. So, um it looks like it was an adder and an adder. Maybe maybe the last two were 1600 or something. I don't know. But there's two different generations. They're distinctly different uh cipher locks. So,
>> so just to clarify, if I may, just to make sure the council understands. So the one proposal so the proposal from Mr. Bales we have the 94 and I have it on the screen too um Mike if you want to see it but 9 9,42839 plus the we deduct um
>> you do the 26 >> minus the 1600 so then we're at about 10,000. Yeah. >> Yep. So about $10,440.39 and then the other proposal >> 11,7235 just so we have um just so you guys have
a comparison to look at the total numbers >> and I would basically add that verbiage to this quote as it relates to the parks right >> I mean I think my word is good
any other questions How much more would it cost if we wanted to expand to like public works or here like to add >> two more access points or three? >> It really varies. I actually did a quote for these front doors when we did the parks. I didn't look at it before I
came. It's going to be probably a little less based on the system that I have here today. Um, but you can budget 2500 to $3,000 a door and that variance depends on door hardware. So like the
front door here, um, electrified panics are really the only way to go. It's going to make the door cost go up a little bit. Like originally I had electrified panics at the fire hall on two of the doors uh, for technical reasons, but then I analyzed it. I'm like I can make it like half the cost
per door on the lock. So I changed the lock style. Um, so it varies depending on box style and installation difficulty. There's really no I mean again a thousand doors is the max. I think the users are 10,000.
Um, this solution here with the virtual keypad opens up a bunch of doors for me as an installer. So if you had a site that didn't have internet, we could actually drop in a cellular communicator and communicate to that system over the cloud just like it's got internet. I
know we don't think have any of those, but >> not currently >> with it being a cloud system. Um not specifically for the fireh hall, but as it expands, can administer now someone wants to use council chambers last
minute. Can she go on her phone and unlock the doors and get them in then without having them have a key card since it's a cloud system or do they still have to have that? >> Yes. So, you could pull up virtual kekeypad.com on your phone or on your uh in the internet web browser or the app,
>> but if we didn't have the cloud server, we couldn't do that. >> Uh you can do that today at the parks. >> Okay. >> And you would have the same thing here with cloud server moving forward. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> Same feature sets are available. It's just a better more robust non-PC reliant
based because if that server tips over that's your whole that's your everything. Even if it well we had a couple instances where we had power issues and couldn't get online and come to find out we had power issues. So >> any other questions? >> My question is less for Mr. Bales and
more from the fire department of for me it's appealing to be on one system citywide versus having us on two systems. Um I can understand that you know that system from your work. Um I guarant I doubt half the other if not
most of the fire department knows neither system besides give me a key fob and let me swap the door. Um, so I guess from that piece, someone's going to have to learn the system or several people are, but it's appealing to have it all on one integrated system within the city versus having one
building's on one, another, you know, the parks on another, and then who knows where we go with the rest of the city infrastructure. Um, so that's probably my two cents on the whole thing. >> That's that's my major concern. I'd just like to have one system, right? So we
can manage it. to manage across all buildings, whole infrastructure, even as we expand different ones. I use virtual keypads or virtual keypad. Um, and it's not hard, you know, adding users, adding doors, those kind of things.
>> Yeah, it's ridiculously easy to use. >> It's easier than what you have now. >> Not that that's hard, but >> So, I don't think it'll be a training issue. Um costwise it's a little bit cheaper but it's
I forget from last month where is this a funded p budgeted item. Okay. Anyone want to propose um anything? >> Spencer, one last time. Is there any
reason why from our end of it where we sit besides you already knowing the system from WW why that would be the way to go? >> Um I guess I would I'd be in favor of tableabling this till next month and see if we'd have a representative from WW here. Um I would
like to have them go through their sales pitch in all fairness. Um, and I would also like to have some comparisons on um, you know, when we talk about wiring this stuff in and and what is the um, you know, if Mike's going floor to ceiling, what's a what's uh, what's WW doing, you know, just so we're going
apples to apples here. So, that'd be my recommendation. >> I just want to clarify that uh, Mike happened to see the agenda and saw this item. I didn't specifically invite him over the other vendor. He just chose to give up his time to come here because he saw it on the agenda. So,
>> valid and fair. I think kind of table that and invite them for the next meeting. >> That gives us a little bit more time to kind of >> because there are just little differences, >> right? >> Not not huge differences, but you know, I want to be fair. It's a www too. So, >> yep. Sounds good.
>> So, between now and May then because for me it's you know, uh, Freedom might be cheaper now, but then expandability WW might be cheaper. I mean, is is there can we have both give us the quotes or at least a rough estimate for the other buildings so that we don't we do diligence on all
the buildings that we'd be looking at expanding versus saying right now okay on one building freedom was the way to go but overall citywide maybe WW is I don't know but until we have those that's one element that we don't know >> I can work on that for the city and with an between Andrew and I we can work on
public works and and city hall we did not have time since the last meeting >> right and I think that's part of it is not doing it but not wanting to regret going with one or the other if as we go to expand now one would have been cheaper than the other or a better solution than the other >> and we would have to budget too for next year because we're not we don't have
money budgeted for that purpose but yep absolutely we can do that >> yeah I think that's a great idea invited next time >> thank you >> all right so that's all the presentations right >> yes
>> all right new business, the adoption of the special assessment role. >> Do you want to recap that or >> Sure. Uh, mayor and city council. So, on page 86 in your packet, um, just another kind of summary of what Mr. Sarf went
over. Just to recap that the proposed assessments would carry an interest rate of 6% over a 20-year term. Uh the first payment would be included on property taxes payable in 2027. Again, property owners may prepay their assessments in full without interest if paid within 30
days um following adoption. Prepayment of the remaining principal and acred interest is permitted in subsequent years without penalty. And then prepayments made after November 15th will include interest through December 31st of the year of payment. Um, if
there's any individuals that are interested in requesting a deferment and they meet all of the eligibility requirements, um, they will need to contact me at city hall or, um, the front office and we'll get that paperwork set up. Um,
with that, I think that's those are the high points. So uh if you turn over then to page 88 89 90 91 uh there is uh you will find the assessment role that has uh parcel ID number owner name uh
mailing address uh property address property legal description and the total assessment amount. >> Right. If there's no other questions about that, I'd look for a motion to approve the the adoption of the special assessment role for the 2026 street and
utility improvement project. >> I'll make that motion. >> We got a first. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> First and a second. Any other discussions? Do we need a roll call or just a roll call vote? Mr.
Mr. Steinberg, >> yes. >> Mrs. Rorich, >> yes. >> Mr. White, >> yes. >> Mr. Lewis, >> yes. >> Mayor Winnington, >> yes. All right,
we've adopted that. So, next one. Moving on to the the general obligation bonds. Any other questions about that? I thought it was pretty well laid out. A lot of money over a lot of years. Um, I'd look for a motion to uh approve
that. >> Motion. >> All right. We have second. >> We have first and a second. >> Any other discussions? >> All right. Can we do a roll call vote again on that one? >> Mr. Steinberg. >> Yes.
>> Mrs. Rooric. >> Yes. >> Mr. White. >> Yes. >> Mr. Lewis. >> Yes. >> Mayor Whittington. >> Yes. >> All right. Moving on to the third new business offered to purchase statement
of compensation. This is a long one. Number three. >> We'll shorten it up. >> All right. Um, mayor and city council. So we uh number three is uh it's related to the 2026 pedestrian connectivity
project and we have Brian Sarf in the audience um and can assist me with uh presenting this topic to you. Um so this spans over a number of years. Um it's it's kind of one of those projects that just shows how long some of these
projects take from the beginning to actually having the the uh construction commence. So, I don't know if you guys um remember, but back in 21, we worked with the Mano Area Plane Organization and got funding to complete a study on
um connectivity in our community. Um and so the city did not have to incur any funds for that study, but it was a very helpful study in that it positioned us to be able to apply for some federal funds. Um so we got transportation
alternative funds um for uh almost half of the project and then um we're able to get a DNR grant for um $147,237
and then a carbon reduction program grant for $164,000. Um, and just to recap, the TA grant $475,982. So, mainly, um, covering most of the the costs of this project. Um, but with the
project, and I'll let uh, Mr. Sarf explain this a little bit in more detail, there comes some challenges because of where it's located. um needing to get easements, having to relocate some utilities um and add some additional uh things such as a fence to
help with screening. So, um what uh Mr. Mr. Sarf's going to talk to you about is uh the next step in the process here with the project is we have to acquire um property from Regency uh because the trail will go along um
agency street um from um Blaze Blaze is it Blaze? Yeah, Blaze Blaze to uh 211 Street and then there'll be a sidewalk that goes um that runs east over there. So, um, so we need to
get that and, um, we also need to talk about adding some screening there. So, I'll let Brian maybe get a little bit more into the the details, but just want to give you a little background because some time has passed and it's hard to believe um, that
here we are now in 2026 and we're finally ready to to get going and break ground and do construction. So, >> yep. Certainly. Um, so as Jennifer alluded to, we're kind of in the midst of working with Regency to acquire some easements, which is something we
anticipated from the get-go. It is a little tight through there. Um, that will include a little bit of permanent easement so we can encroach a little bit with the with the trail through there and temporary easement, which will allow us to do some extra construction things,
you know, beyond what would be the permanent right of way, if you will. So, being that this is a federally funded project, there's a a fairly regimented process that you have to go through for everything. Uh, and that
includes land acquisition. Um, so we're kind of working through that. Uh, as Jennifer said, we did get some CRP funds for engineering. There's a quite a major delay with that. So, uh, certainly it's hurry up and wait, uh, a little bit uh,
for a long time here now that we got the go-ahhead. We've been working vigorously to work through this and part of that would be the rightway acquisition. So, we've been working with Regency talking with them about, you know, kind of what we need as we developed
construction limits for this project. Um, and what you have in your packet tonight is one of the federal forms, uh, offer to purchase and statement of compensation. uh Federal Highway Federal Highway
Administration likes their forms and all that. So this isn't uh this isn't the final easement agreement by any means. So the that that formal notorized recorded document would follow this, you know, right after this, but uh this is
something that the feds like to see and put in their file here. Um but it essentially documents uh you know what the city would propose as just compensation for these two easements permit and the temporary.
So as part of this process uh with uh takings of less not takings but uh acquisitions less than 25,000 uh you're welcome to go through what's called the minimum damage acquisition. Just so happens this kind of comes up right to that threshold which is good.
It just saves time, especially in the tightness of schedule here. It allows us to move fairly quickly through this uh while at the same time giving, you know, the property owner plenty of time to consider uh the offer and all that.
Um so, in partnership with the city administrator, uh we've kind of run through some typical uh compensation amounts for this type of work uh for a permanent easement with a trail on it. than than temporary easement. Um, and that's all kind of
detailed in uh in the MDA that's attached to this offer to purchase. So, in summary, uh we're coming up with just shy of $25,000 uh in right-of-way costs to construct this project. Uh we've been in contact
with Regency and they appear to be okay with that. Um yeah and again next steps would be to finalize the the legal document. Uh that would be the easement. Any questions so
far and I'll continue on about the process or the MDA or anything. All right. So uh with this as part of our discussions with with Regency uh some of the hot topics that have come up
first one being the wet ditch. uh it's probably a hot topic for everyone here, right? Uh so we've been looking at that and we have a a solution as part of this project to address that and that's essentially reestablished the tile line going across the road that you know it
indirectly essentially got cut off with the Fox Meadows. You know those there's always farm tiles you don't know where they are. You dig a basement or or a foundation they get cut. Essentially, what's happening right now is all that subsurface drainage is making its way to the pond. In addition to that, you got
melt type things that might not have quite gotten there. Anyway, we've got an issue with nuisance flow. So, we've got continual flow going down that ditch. Uh, as you probably know, larger flows with bigger storm events have always sent a lot of water well before Fox
Meadows down that ditch. That's not going to change here. What we're looking to do is intercept the nuisance flows, bring that ac across to the wetland. So, it's a drier ditch. It's always kind of been a wet ditch a little bit, but it's been excessive in the last couple years
since Fox Meadows has happened. So, that's one thing we've talked about that was regardless of Regency that was going to be a goal of this project. Another topic of discussion would be uh ditch maintenance. Um because of the
wetness and kind of the change of the character of that ditch with the trail, they've asked that uh the city assume mowing essentially of that ditch uh along agency. Third hot topic would be a screen. Um,
and from a staff perspective, it seemed like a a a pretty good situation from both parties, adding a a privacy fence, if you will, along most of that trail along agency. There's a couple of common areas that it wouldn't be necessary or
uh appropriate, but some of the areas where we've got uh homes currently uh for both the for the benefit of both sides uh a screen would be proposed and that would be in the project cost as an eligible
item. So th those would be a couple conditions that uh staff would look to incorporate into the final easement agreements here as we work with the attorney to finalize that. Any questions on the process or those
terms, the easements? >> Agency and 211 >> at this point. We were just planning on agency. Uh I think the difference there uh you know on agency we're building a trail that's going to be at least perceived as
a lot closer to these to these uh these homes. on 211th. The approach there is a sidewalk essentially at the back of curb. So, we're not really changing the character of that roadway or the right of way substantially. There's going to be pedestrians
that walk down that way. Um, but it'll essentially be at the road. So, at this time, no. >> Can you explain a little more too on put the the trail in, but how the water is getting diverted and not getting pushed
further into the yards? You said it some of it's the ground surface water is still going to be there. >> So, so right now what's happening is that ground surface water is getting into the the last storm water pond Fox Meadows and we've actually seen it
coming up into the pipe that crosses Thomas Drive that was installed with Fox Meadows. As part of the project, we have to extend that outlet that currently has rip wrap rock. We have to extend that so we can get the trail up there. We're going to plant a a drainage structure
and take a storm pipe across at that point that's actually lower than the main pipeline. So any water, you know, normal level flows that are coming in won't be able to get past that point. So we're intercepting
intercepting all those flows which is anything beyond that would not be a change condition from prefox meadows. Does that make sense? >> Will that cause issues because then you push it to the other side of the road >> where it was before Fox Meadows
>> wetland. >> Yep. Is that going to cause issues with that being a higher capacity now and the res? >> So again, I see this as really putting things back to the way >> back to the way it was because before
there was a small tile that connected into the county storm sewer that got across the road and again through construction it kind of got cut off and now it's going a different route and a more problematic route. >> Yeah. So, it's just hanging.
>> No, no. I think it's a great question. >> It's a great question and u we put a lot of thought into it and I think we've got the best possible solution to cut that drainage off at the last possible point and get it across. >> So, you're going to take that So, you're
going to be below the current drainage structures. So, it'll take that water first. >> That's correct. Okay. Yeah. It'll be a small diameter pipe. So it won't be designed to handle large large flows into that wetland. >> All that will still bypass similar to
like it would today or pref Fox meadows. >> We should be able to mow that ditch after that. >> Correct. >> That's the And part of this project is the sidewalk down on the on the south side >> on 211. >> On 211. >> Yep. Yep. So that connection will be
made >> and we and we already own that easement I'm assuming because there's no >> Could you repeat that? >> We already own that assessment. I mean not assessment the easement >> on there's there's a small piece of that temporary easement in the corner uh that
>> just wraps around but otherwise our construction limits are within the current right ofway. >> Okay. Now we just need a four-way stop. The next challenge is as we're putting kids where they and adults families where they should be going is getting
that safe crossing >> right there at Thomas >> at Thomas and Y would maybe reiterate too part of this project we will be doing flashing beacons at Thomas >> Y and a dedicated crossing at that point. So there'll be a crosswalk
painted. It'll be flashing. You push the button tells you to wait. >> Yep, that is correct. >> Otherwise, the next steps will be for staff to move forward um draft these easements and execute the agreement so we can get authorized from MDOT and get
this thing built. >> And when do we think we're going to start or when was the plan start date for this project? >> Still this fall. >> As soon as possible. I'm look probably late summer, you know, start probably at the earliest at this point. Kind of
still considering schedules and potentially delaying paving until uh the following year because we do have to build some embankments as we come, you know, we're sitting low in the ditch and we have to come up, you know, to the driveways and let things go through a freeze thaw would be
>> settle out. Yeah, we're considering that um at least the option for that, but more or less it would be more or less a fall type construction. It's not >> these sorts of projects are
a lot harder to get to construction than construction a lot of times, especially with the funding involved. >> Do you have to have anything done at a certain time for the funding? >> Um that's a great question. Uh because of the delays in engineering funding in
particular, um we'll probably have to consider doing some tree removals outside of the project and they can do stump removals with the project because there are, you know, there's more uh regulations in terms of
disturbing potential, you know, bats and and whatnot. And I just want to I know that you guys get tired of me telling or reiterating this, but the federal funding is it's no easy feat and no simple process, but I
sometimes just something to keep in mind. These grants are great. This is going to pay for the bulk of our project um total cost, but as we keep in mind um you know other opportunities for other projects that you know there is a huge um what do you want to call it um labor
intensive component for staff and consultants like Brian. So, um, just wanted to throw that out there because it it is um, uh, not an overexaggeration that that it's a lot of work. It's >> No, I think the question was since we went through all this work, we don't want to lose the funding because we
can't get it done. It has to be done by November and we can't get it done till next year. >> Sure. There there is uh, with the DNR, they have a cap of next summer. You know, there's a deadline for that. So, we'll certainly write that into our contract and make sure that that we're
adhering to to those deadlines. >> Perfect. More questions, concerns? I think it'll be fantastic once it gets done. Um, obviously the water, you know, if we could do that sooner than later,
even before we start the rest of it. >> Um, depending on pricing, things like that, that would be great. Um, but I still think we'll have to figure out, I think, as a council and as administration, how do we approach the county for that because the agency is
county road, right? So, how do we approach a more a safer way to cross right there? I think it's going to be great that we have the the flashing lights. Um, but I'd like to see a four-way stop there, >> even though I'll have to stop it.
>> The one down on Riverfront actually works really well. And there's any more traffic there. Um >> yeah, I mean I'm you're down there quite a bit, but I'm down there every day and >> the flashing definitely help. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's people stop. It's
>> I mean lines of cars waiting for the hockey players to across the street. So I mean I think that's going to be >> Yeah. I think that'll work, >> you know, for now. >> I think it's changing habit, right? I mean right now we have certain residents that don't even stop for school bus.
>> So I think it's utilizing our fine men and women that's that protect our city to make sure that they're continually doing their part and doing what they can and >> hopefully leaving some people. >> Yeah, the red octagons are stop signs,
not yield signs, right? >> And once they're in, let's keep them in. >> No, I'm glad that we've added that that flashing. Yeah, certainly the other piece is, you know, making sure the public knows to push the button. You know, it's you
might be surprised, but a lot of people >> feel like I don't need to bug anyone, right? And, you know, maybe they're even a thousand feet away or something. It's like I can cross no problem. But even training the people that are commonly using the corridor that, hey, there's
something up there, right? And it I think that helps a lot with compliance and and >> definitely do a push once once everything's constructed. >> Yeah. >> Perfect. >> All right. If there's no more questions for Ryan, we'll kind of move on. There's
nothing we need to do there. Right. You guys will move forward and and bring back the the contract to be executed. >> Yep. That's that's a little ways out, but >> Yep. If we could just get a motion to approve the offer to purchase statement of compensation and then minimum damage
acquisition. >> I'll look for a motion for what she said. >> I'll make that motion. >> I'll second. >> We got first and second. Any other discussions? >> All in favor? >> I. >> All opposed?
>> Thanks, Brian. >> Thanks, Brian. Street sweeping. All right. Um, so I have in your packet a quote from Lokens. Um, we've used them the past 10
years, I think, other than one year when we had a other contractor come in and make a mess. Um, their cost is from last year to this year I think went up $500, but includes
all of Fox Meadows and everything now. Um, with this we had conversations of like the project area. They're not going to sweep obviously. There's no point in it. Um, but I wanted them to quote the whole
entire city just so we can look back um, like, you know, okay, we're taking off all these blocks, you know, to quote for this year. Now, next year we have them, you know, quote again, why is it so high type thing? Um, so they'll just
charge us hourly at the 125 an hour rate. um with that, you know, section coming out of it. Um and this year we did use a lot more sand
than the last couple years. So, you know, it, you know, we might still push that $5,000 range depending on, you know, how much material they're picking up and whatnot. And if we approve that tonight, we'll
start tomorrow. No, I'm just kidding. >> I was just asking um public works director Hartman. Um I was going to ask him to address with you guys. I know like um he said there's there's a lot of sand applied this year because of the nature of our winter. Um I know in some areas the way the water kind of runs
down, it kind of collects on the side of the by the curb wall. They make sure they get everything. Okay. >> Yeah. And if and if if you see areas a lot of times after they sweep and they you know we get a rain you'll notice a
lot of sand and stuff they're not they'll come back and take care of it as long as we know about it and catch it and let them know. So >> when would they be starting? >> Uh probably middle of April. Just as long
as we can get I think we're past the snow possibilities, but I would assume middle of Aprilish that. >> Well, if we're not, don't use so much sand. >> I think my only frustration is is there a reason why we can't have this quote
from Lokens? They know our city very well, even in Q4, where we can budget for it, but also approve it right away. So, we're not waiting until April to approve it and hope they do it right away. um or can we if we're using Loan every year and they are frankly the best
for our city get into it where we as a city agree to a a certain percentage increase and a three-year contract and would they give us a better deal for that where we're automatically on the docket for them and we get worked in right away in amongst everything else. >> Yeah, we we can you know a lot of it
goes by, you know, just our hourly rate. So, you know, it's all dependent on how much sand we use and, you know, how much debris is in the road is really where they generate, you know, their hours from. But, yeah, we can definitely have
that discussion with them and start working that out for years to come. I mean, maybe you guys don't want to go that way, but just seems like this and the street, you know, patching of the streets coming
late summer instead of like feel like we're behind the ball a little bit on some of this. >> Well, this is weather dependent, you know, so start dates are always going to >> vary. But I'd make a motion to approve Logan
at the 5,000 max. Um, assuming it would be coming in less with not having all the streets to do. >> Move first. Do we have a second? >> A second. >> First and second. Any other discussion? All in favor? >> I.
>> All opposed. All right. Hydrant relief valve pricing. >> Yes. So, um, a little background on hydrant relief valves. The city currently doesn't have any. So, when we
did our water tower project a couple years ago, we actually borrowed two from Bolton and Mink and two from Bolton and Mink and one from Minnesota Real Water. That or vice versa, one of the two. Um, and I've been
searching and searching for like what they have for hydrant relief valves and with different vendors and things and we finally kind of came up with what I think is going to be the best for for our system um with core and
main. Um, so we would like to purchase three of the pressure relief valves just because that's that's what we use when we have to take the tower down. Um, so like when with the Verizon project,
we're going to have to take the tower down so that they can fix the paint on the inside and things like that. um we don't have to rely on somebody else's equipment to um you know make us sufficient so to
speak. Um they the big role of these is keeping the water pressure where it's supposed to be. We place three of them, you know, kind of on the outskirts of towns towards like the dead end areas so that you know, the pressure can't spike up and um, you know, create water main
breaks and things like that. Um, yeah, you know, if you if you see them, they're spraying water. Some of them, you know, depending on where they're placed, if they're getting too much pressure, we'll, you know, use a lot of water. But that's kind of just the way it is with with these to make sure we
don't destroy our infrastructure. >> Well, that's a good thing. >> Yes. >> So, my question was why did three, but I think you just answered that. So, it's more to maintain just the overall water pressure as things need to be maintained or we take things offline for
maintenance. >> Yep. Yep. So, every three years we do a tower cleaning. um you know comes offline, tower comes offline for those probably three days. Um you know before we were relying on other people's
equipment, you know, hey, can we borrow these for this time? Well, we don't have them. Okay, go find somebody else that has some and ask them. Um now we can we don't have to worry about it. We just bring our own equipment out, put it on, and we're ready to go.
And the 2475 is all three or >> correct. >> All three. >> Any other questions? >> Remind me too when we have to do that with the Verizon project, they're reimbursing all of that anyways, too. >> Yep. >> Yeah.
>> Any questions for public works director? Look for a motion to approve. >> I'll make the motion. >> Move first. Do we have a second? >> I'll second. >> Have a first and second. Any other discussions? >> All in favor?
>> I. >> All opposed. All right. Park pavilion cutter pricing. >> Um. Yes. So, in your packet, you will
see two quotes. One from Lent Seamless Gutters and one from the Brother Gutters, whatever it is, um, Brothers Gutters. Um, in talking with the park board, we
wanted to go with the Brother Gutters. they will install um underground popups with their gutter system, do all that where um the other quote they didn't they weren't going to
do that for us. Uh they were just going to run down spouts. Um the biggest thing with this will be being able to get the dirt along the edge of the pavilion and keep it there and hopefully get grass to grow.
um shouldn't have the wash out like like there is now. Um be a lot better maintenance of that area. Any other questions? Look for a motion to approve the Gutter Brothers. Is that what we
have? >> We have first and second. Any other discussion? All in favor? >> I. >> All opposed. All right. Number seven, planting new trees.
Yes. So, um, in your packet you will find a quote from Mano Land Shapes. Um, the past couple months I've been trying to dig deep into where can we get like decent
size healthy trees instead of saplings and, you know, root ball trees, you know, that take a lot of maintenance to start off. Um, I haven't really come up with anywhere but mana land shapes that will that have the trees and will spade
them in. Um, so in my request, we would we'd like to get three like 3 to 4 inch base size trees and three 5 to
8 in. Um, these will mainly go around the playground at Lake Eagle Park. Um, try and get these to grow up so we can start getting rid of some of the ash trees while not losing shade in the process. Um,
with these, um, we're talking about going with maples. It seems to be, I mean, for price and size and shade and everything. Um, talking with them and then talking with
uh, Meltures, you know, for keeping them cleaned and tidy, you know, those seem to be the best growing and groomable trees. There's two two issues I have with maple. Neither one are bad. One is
they're fast growers, which is great as long as we can get them where they're not throwing seed pods everywhere. And I don't know if there's a variety that does that. Um >> I think it's one one of the jeans. >> What's that? >> I think it's one of the like the you can
get the male or the female. >> Okay. >> Right. And and that's what we would go for. Okay, >> for sure. >> I like maples. They're they're a beautiful tree. They certainly turn nice colors, but they are fast movers. So, which is good. We wouldn't want to plant
an oak tree, >> right? And and with this, you know, once we once we can get these established and start getting the ash trees out, you know, we can put other species where the ash trees were, >> you know, to kind of stagger the growth.
>> Yeah. And and I like the idea, you know, I think we really have to keep a really good eye on those trees around the park, the playground set, just because LA last year we had a lot of hangers. >> Mhm. >> Yep. >> And a couple of them were pretty good size. >> Yeah. >> For somebody to get hurt.
>> And I've had conversations with Meltures. Um he was going to try and get me a quote before the meeting and that didn't happen. But I think there's six or eight around the playground area that still look pretty healthy that we want to try and treat,
>> you know, to prolong them a little bit, you know, get another three years of >> ashbor free out of them. >> Yeah, I like the idea of planting and then taking down after we get them established. So, we at least have some
>> some But if if we get to the point where those just become too dangerous, I think we're have no >> right >> no choice. So what are you looking for here? Let's see. Looking for So the 1650 will give us how many trees?
>> Should be six. >> Six. Okay. Those all go around the playground for replacement or will they go other? >> Yeah, as long as we can fit them all. Otherwise, um, one or two will go back behind the ball field kind of in between
all those ash trees to start replenishing those. >> Any other questions? >> I'd make a motion to approve the trees for the park as stated in the packet. >> We have a first. Do we have a second? Second first and second. Any other
discussions? All in favor? >> I. >> All opposed. All right. Number eight, council chambers rental. >> Mayor and city council. Uh last year um there was a request received from Ben
Grubner to use the council chambers a couple days a week for summer tutoring. And uh he did submit another request which is included in the packet on page 182. Um he's asking to specifically use the council chambers on Tuesdays for tutoring.
Along with his request, he's asking that the council consider a reduced fee since it's only one day this year. Um we charged him $25 a week uh last year. So um I will leave it up to you for discussion
what your thoughts are on that. Um, I did I should also mention I did have another person reach out a couple months ago um that also does tutoring to ask about using the council chambers. Uh, that person did uh find another location. So, that's uh no longer on the
table. But just keep in mind there, you know, could be other people that might want to use the council chambers for the same purpose as well. So, with that, I will turn it over to the council for discussion. If you wanted to refer to our fee schedule, I
did just put an excerpt from our um 2026 fee schedule for uh facility charges and include in there. I have just what we normally would charge for the council chamber rental fee, private meetings, private parties. Um kind of give you an
idea of what what it costs uh for other uses. Any discussion on what we'd like to do? >> Yes, I go ahead. I was going to say I feel like I'm the only one that brings up council fees, but
it's I'm trying to be sensitive to the fact that we want people in here, but we al but I'm also looking at if we do it for one, we have to be somewhat fair for all and he got a deal last year, right? Because
based on this, it'd be $25 per day and we were doing per week, but if we went off our fee schedule, it' be 25 a day. I'm assuming he's charging for the tutoring. Um, and it's not on a volunteer basis at no charge. Um, but knowing that there's a lot that happens in the council chambers, even just from a city standpoint, because
there's some weeks that I'm spending more time in here with meetings than I am at my own office. Um, I don't I don't know. I >> Is it the whole day or how long's a year? >> Pretty much the whole day. He'll he kind of staggers it and sometimes there will be cancellations, but pretty much from beginning to the the end of the day.
Yeah. >> 25 bucks. I just think we're set a precedence that if if we do it for one, then we have to be ready to do it for all. Um, and it's a discounted rate for our Eagle Lake residents that I don't think it's personally too much to ask for to have it at that rate.
>> I would echo that. I don't think $25 is a huge number for the day. Um, and we need to get something. But also knowing that if city staff needs the room that is it would be expected that he use the break room or the hallway again. So that's they're not
city staff isn't being displaced from meetings because of that >> and they would get priority I guess. >> Perfect. >> Well, with that we just need a motion to uh that effect and we'll I can go ahead and let Mr. Grubner know and get it on the schedule.
I'll make the motion for >> the >> $25. >> I'll second that motion. >> First and second. Any other discussion? All in favor? >> I >> I.
>> All opposed. All right. The last new business. Uh the America's 250, right? So this year the United States is celebrating their 250th anniversary. Who would ever thought we could get here? Um
um Beth and I have been talking as well as Jennifer just talking about what we can do to kind of do something in the city. Um so we're working on some things um that will bring back a propose. Um
but uh we welcome input and participation from the the council. Um, we are going to try to form a small group and then kind of branch out from there and ask people to help out with different things. Wanting to get all of our our groups involved like Lions Club
and and like the the helping hands, those kind of things as we as we progress on. Um, we're kind of early in the in the process. Um, Brett Beth is the creative one. I'm just there going, "Yeah, that sounds
great." Um but uh any any push back or any any any comments about moving forward? You know, we'd look at what what I would propose is we kind of kick it off on the 4th of July and have kind of things throughout the rest of the year. um because we're
kind of close to, you know, that um have some things at Tater Days, those kind of things, some things throughout the year. >> The only thing I when I was looking at this, I thought of the Fourth of July as
well. Um I may have even thinking of staying away from that day um because there's just people are gone, people are on the lake. I don't know how much participation we would have >> and that's where we said as a committee or as a group when we I mean this all
came in DC like we I had no idea until we went there and it's all over and I looked at John and Jennifer and I said did you guys know and they're like no idea >> we did talk about >> well not to the extent though that we're doing are we doing anything or any of that so that's where it just kind of kicked off but in small clusters of
start the celebration by >> the the week of the 4th decorate your house like everybody does for the for Christmas Um, and then just doing small little things, reaching out to helping hands and saying, "Get 250 volunteer hours for the fall cleanup or, you know, just different things." So, I think
that's where we're in the very early stages, but we agreed that we do not want to have any big festival on the 4th of July because it's too much. It'd be more of we're starting like if we're going to say we want to do 250 pounds of plastic and 250 volunteer hours, it
would start on the 4th of July, but we wouldn't have a big celebration push that it would just be starting. >> Well, I was thinking maybe and Gary can speak up too, but maybe we can incorporate it with one of our concerts. Garrett, >> perfect.
>> We were you guys in on one of those ask about >> I'd also like to tandem on that. Um, next year will be the quasa centennial of Eagle Lake. >> We asked that question, >> which means 125 years.
>> Um, so that may be something to parallel that whole thing with, you know. Um, I remember when we did the centennial in 2002. Um, there was some nice displays of historical pictures of Eagle Lake up at the American Legion. A huge there was a
huge display, >> you know. I think that that would be something that we should talk to or talk about as well. You know, take it with the United States of America 250th year, you know, but I think I mean >> I don't know if people will really get
into that in Eagle Lake, you know, like are we going to put buntings out on our porches and stuff? I mean, >> yes, >> I mean, we can, but I'm just saying you could tandem and tag it into this 125 year, too. I remember even when Mano did their cesqua centennial that was a
really big deal. >> Well, and you know, we looked at several things. So, I think everything's up in the air. We're looking for suggestions. You know, I feel that it's really important for us to do something. Um, how big that is is, you know, whatever we can determine, you know, what we can
do. Um, and I think it might be something that we can, yeah, like Gareth, you know, let's rolled this right into, you know, we can gather things up. And we also talked about some infrastructure that we'd like to kind of propose that could be used, you know, at these other events, you know, like the
what did you call it? I'm not even going to try to pronounce that word. >> What is called 125th >> Centennial? Um, you know, so >> yeah, so we'll try to I'll work on that one. So >> So just just so you know, you know, this
is coming along. Um, you know, we'll have some more, you know, as we go, probably for the next, um, council meeting. Um, things like that. Um, it can be as small as we want it to be or as big as we want it to be. You know, we don't want it to overshadow
Tater Days and we know that, you know, we historically haven't done a big celebration of Fourth July. We've got some other great um surrounding communities that already do that and everybody and everybody's got lake, you know, so those kind of things. But it would be nice to kick off and saying
between July 4th and December 31st, we're going to have these kind of things done. So it's more of a kickoff than a than something that big hoop fly that happens on the pork line. I I think too that the big thing for me
is just um getting our youth involved that you guys have wonderful ideas for those but just getting our community to be >> you know patriotic and um you know the red, white and blue. I think that's, you know, like the mayor said and Beth said, it doesn't have to be this huge
elaborate celebration, but I think our the main point here is just let's celebrate our nation's rich history and uh let's all try to be patriotic and they've got some amazing ideas, you guys. I'm not kidding you. Very good ideas. >> She's putting a high bar for us. >> No, they they really do. I I'm
impressed. So >> So no, so we'll bring some more. >> Be prepared to be wowed. we uh we can move forward with. But uh we'd welcome all the input that we can. >> And trust me, you guys have already been on the list. All of you have, including
>> everybody on this table. It's just because of the quorum, we can't all pull together. So there's things that we're going to run by summer sounds and say, "Hey, what do you guys think on this? I'm bringing different music or connecting that and helping hands and stuff." So, um, just really trying to bring our community together after some
kind of down times of showing really what Eagle Lake is about versus dwelling on all the negativity. So, more to come on that. That's moreformational, but if you got ideas, suggestions, that kind of thing, let us know and
we'll try to incorporate everything. Other business, parking. >> All right. >> Used by the pavilion. Uh, mayor and city council, I wanted to bring this this topic up. Um, we've since I put this in the packet, we've gotten I I have some pictures from public works director
Hartman. He had put some signs up, but I'll just give you some background before I I uh um get into that. So, we've been having some issues down at the pavilion um or people are kind of parking really close to the pavilion and and it's um not good because we want to
make sure that people that need handicapped uh accessible parking have that. And then we also want to make sure that if there's ever anything down with our um you know, the wells uh that uh the public works department has access because they have had issues where there's cars blocking and they have to
go try to find people to move their vehicle. Um, and then also when you come out of the I know I've been at the park before, uh, walking and people are driving down the path towards you and I just would hate to see any young children or adults either get hurt
obviously. So, uh, Andrew's department uh, has been working on trying to find ways to deter parking down there so far, especially when there is already signage that says authorized parking or authorized vehicles only. And uh I I
think maybe the signs are they're up at the top when you come in. Um and uh people maybe just aren't seeing them. But anyway, so in this picture here, you'll see that public works just put up these signs that say no parking. So I think it's very clear people should be able to see we should no longer
hopefully have any issues. I'll put out a communication to the community just asking um you know for residents to help uh raise awareness. And we talked internally at city hall too about uh when people rent the pavilion just um to we'll make sure that they understand
it's for loading and unloading down there handicapped parking but please then go use the street once you've unloaded your stuff um or the the main parking lot and parking is not ideal at the park but when you start getting all these cars in there and they start plugging up where people should be able
to walk it's um it's a safety concern. So, I just wanted to bring that to your attention if um we get if you get any comments from the public. Um we had tried a couple years ago to we shut the gate and thought may if people can't follow the rules and they're abusing it,
we'll just shut the gate. But then that ended up causing lots of issues because we had complaints about then we were limiting uh lack of handicapped accessible parking. So then we opened the gates again, but now we, you know, experienced those issues. So we've got some good signage up there. Hopefully it'll work. I just wanted to make sure
that everybody's aware of of why that signage is there and um you know that we're we'll push it out to residents as best as possible and hopefully have compliance with that. So, anything else Andrew you want to add with that?
>> I did order today I ordered a sign that we're going to put on on the pavilion. Um, in front of the pavilion, we have painted, you know, no parking on the on the black top. You can kind of see it there. But right in that kind of ribbed
area, we're going to put the sign that says no parking, you know, loading and unloading only or whatever. Um, so that should kind of deter, you know, that area along there, too. Um, I was talking
with Mitch on that and if we have issues with that sign, we might have to put that sign into our ordinance. Um, so that it's enforcable because we're he's going to do some checking or we're going to do some checking to make sure, you know, if it's
not a Minnesota certified sign, um, then we just have to have it in the ordinance so that it can be enforced. But the current parking signs are enforceable. Correct. >> Correct. So it' be just the one right in front of the pavilion bathrooms there.
>> Is it enforceable painted on the ground? >> So even if the sign even if the sign on the building wasn't enforceable, the painting on the ground is >> all those signs that are visible right now except for just to the left of where those individuals are walking
um are enforceable. So the one that's uh what does that even say? I can't remember Andrew on >> no motor vehicles. >> Yeah, no motor vehicles. So, if it's anything that we want to enforce and it's not uh like a Minnesota certified sign or anything that we can cite by statute, we should get it into into a
city ordinance, but I think we'll be able to enforce anything with just the remainder of the other signs that are down there. And I don't know, I drive by the park because of where I live, so I see when it's getting used, but no joke, we've
had vehicles parked all the way up to the bleach or the stands over there. And that's just totally inappropriate and lack of common sense. And so I just hopefully this will take care of that issue. But >> are the handicap signs up to state
statute with the warning? >> Yep. So there well there's one up right now. Um we ordered another one. I thought I had more. Um but yeah, we made sure that they were up to state statute for signage and height of the sign and
everything. There's a whole bunch of math that comes into that. >> So no formal action needed. just, you know, before we push it out to the community now that we have the signs that went up today, just want everybody to be on the same page and, you know, make sure that we have council support and that we're all, you know, have this
shared goal of just trying to keep it open, accessible, and safe. So, all right. Thank you. >> So, the administrator report. >> All right. Um, in your packet, you will find uh um monthly year-to-ate
expenditures and revenues. Any questions, please let me know. The next item, there's an employee leave balances sheet. Uh number three, Earth Day and Earth Day week activities. So Earth Day is quickly coming up on the 20th. Um the
actual Earth Day that's recognized is the 22nd. Uh we will be um pushing out some communications here pretty aggressively letting people know that uh they can come and get garbage bags. Um we'll have some garbage picker uper things. I'm not sure of the exact name
of those things, but you guys can probably envision what I'm talking about just so people are safe and um you know when they're picking up items, but um we talking with Lieutenant Gayler thought this is a great Eagle Lake helping hands type of an activity and there were so many people that wanted to help with
that but were either busy out of town. So thought this will be another opportunity for them to help. So we're gonna kind of put our heads together and kind of figure out if there's just some um um some extra fun things we can do with that. But um at the very basic thing, we're just going to have uh people, you
know, clean up around the community. And that went over really well. Um last year and the year prior, I think we had different um Manito um uh sports teams come over here and do some cleanup so they get some service hours. So, um
we'll be pushing that out. And I I know I did get a a suggestion from someone in the community about let's try to plant some some trees and we did that a couple years ago and it went over really well. We we were able to give away all of the saplings. So I think that with um enough planning we can easily get that done
next year. So um we should be able to get those ordered. We'll just have to kind of get that calendared and um work on getting those ordered. Uh next item recap of the RE RCCIP sunsetting success event and next steps. We recently had um
event here at city hall was a lunchon just to thank our core team to kind of celebrate our successes and um we invite first children's finance staff, Southern Minnesota Initiative Foundation representatives. Um and we just kind of highlighted the work that's been done and uh you know what we're going to do
uh keep that moving forward. And then coming up here real soon, we're going to be doing a provider appreciation event um with funding from Southern Minnesota Initiative Foundation. So really looking forward to doing that. I think our committee has done an awful lot and um has a lot to be proud of and we're
obviously not going to solve the child care uh problems that we have um you know in one fell swoop, but we moved the needle and we're making some changes and we're um you know ready to assist if there's a need in the community. So, we'll keep that going. Update on
forgivable child care loan program. We have uh been getting applications in. I extended the deadline to April 10th just to give a little bit more time for providers to to get all their information submitted. Uh so, we'll be reviewing those shortly. I'm working with Southern
Minnesota Initiative Foundation to and um another group which now I'm forgetting their name but they're with child care and we're working to get a committee together that will help uh provide review of the application. So then the the goal then would be to take it to our EDA meeting um and get a
recommendation from them and ultimately it'll come to the city council and our goal is to get that money out the door and get the child care child care providers able to spend that money and en enhance their uh businesses. Next item letter from Blueorth County
Property Environmental Services. Um, in the packet here, there's a letter that I received from uh Mark Manderfeld with Blue Earth County and talking a little bit about the solid waste and the county's solid waste management plan. I
did have a phone call with one of the staff of Florth County um a few weeks back and we talked about um Eagle Lakes garbage contract goes through February of next year. So, the timing is actually good that we haven't entered into a new
contract with another hauler because um they would like to be a part of that RFP process just to make sure that the language we have in our agreement um coincides with the county solid waste plan because um we can't have a contract with a hauler that might be wanting to take the the
solid waste somewhere other than the um that's part of the county's plan. So, we're going to be working together and um have more information on that coming. Uh but I I have gotten some inquiries from other haulers, you know, kind of when are you guys going to open RFP? And
I think the longer we wait until this summer um versus opening up now is better from what I understand that we'll have more idea on the county solid waste plan. And so, it's it's um I think it's just fine. We're we're doing good on the
timing of that. So, more information to come on that. I just want to give a quick recap of the National League of Cities Conference and the Coalition of Greater Minnesota Cities Legislative Action Day. Uh, both were just wonderful events. Uh, DC just
um was wonderful. We got to meet with our legislators, uh, network with other officials from across the country. Um, just learned a lot. And I can say this year was not the same as last year and last year wasn't the same as the first
year and each one it just keeps getting better and I think it's just so valuable for the city. Um and we're getting recognized and it was really fun in the meetings that we were at um by all of our uh legislators um Congressman Finad Congress or excuse me Senator Smith and
Senator Clolobashar. They they recognize Eagle Lake in the room. they recognize the mayor and they called us out in all of their um when we had our different gettogethers and so that that really makes you feel like this is important. This is
worthwhile because Eagle Lake is getting recognized and and uh they know us and our project. So that was really great. And then we attended the Coalition Greater Minnesota Cities Legislative Action Day in St. Paul and had the opportunity to meet with uh Representative Frederick. We're going to
be having a Zoom call with Senator Friends here um this week. He was in committee and that ran long so we didn't get to actually meet with him in person that day. But uh and then in addition to our water project that we talked to Representative Frederick about, we also
were able to um kind of help lobby for the issues that are important to cities like LGA, housing, um you know, transportation, economic development, things like that that are important. And it's good to be there and represent cities like Eagle
Lake because if we're not there, there's so many other things going on. Every time we're up in St. Paul, there's just tons of groups that are in there meeting with legislators and if you're not continuing to get in front of them and let them know about your project and its importance, you will easily be
forgotten. So, definitely worthwhile and looking forward to continuing um those uh those meetings with our legislators. Uh next item, Habitat for Humanity hard hat breakfast. Hopefully you guys all received the invitation. Um it's from
Habitat for Humanity. They're just asking for city officials to attend um learn more about um you know Habitat for Humanity, how it impacts our community and how we can help um help them, help support them. So if you're available, please uh plan to attend. I put it on my
calendar and I will uh try to be there. Uh this Friday, there's going to be a southern Minnesota city administrator round table in Pine Island. Um, Congressman Finstead's office is uh coordinating that and so um I will be going to that um and looking forward to
talking about issues that are important to to our community and I'll bring back whatever I learned um from that. But I think it'll be a good round table discussion because there'll be representatives from like USDA
um that will help us with different um uh financing opportunities for different projects. And we've got obviously water project. We've got our fireh hall project coming up and um
what's the other big one I'm missing? Our top three priorities. How can I forget this? transportation highway 14, excuse me. So, it'll be good chance to talk to um some of the different representatives there and then just reiterate the city's um you know, prior
and where we need funding letter support for the fire department. I just wanted to include this in the packet. Uh fire chief uh Spencer reached out last week asked for letter support. they're applying for a grant to um purchase some decontamination
equipment cleaning items and they had included that in their um budgetary request. So um I went ahead and just submitted a letter of support but wanted to give you a copy for your information. And then number 11, Springside Spring
curbside cleanup is coming up on May 9th. So we'll be pushing out more information here to residents just letting them know about that. um talking to some other communities. I think it's it's kind of quickly becoming a thing of the past. I not a lot of cities are getting to do the curbside cleanup. So,
that's something really important when we look at our contract renewal that we make sure we retain this because our residents really appreciate the curbside cleanup, but there's a lot of communities that um their haulers are going away from that. So, and then I just made a note. But I wanted to let
you know I did talk to CTS uh last week and I had asked for some pricing for um an equipment rack to be able to move that piece of equipment into that room or in the um closet that we have for with the server
and they're still working on that. And then as far as the microphones, I I don't know what else to do. I have asked our um one vendor that we used to provide us these microphones. They were actually on site. Again, I asked for pricing and I have yet to receive any.
So, I just I I don't know if if anybody comes up with another vendor for microphones. Let me know. But I >> uh Jennifer, do you what what you want new microphones or what's going on? >> We just want one for the the podium that's kind of like these or that you
could um you know, you could take off. >> I have a third party guy that could come in and look at this whole system. He's installed all those kind of things. Well, the system is working fine. The only thing we need right now, >> he's a tech. He's a tech guy. He would be able to do that. >> Yeah, that's what we we If you have a
name, I would be more than happy to to give him a call. So, um I feel like there was something else ahead, but um I think that's it for now. Maybe I guess just one last thing. I just want to um really thank
the mayor and Beth, Council Member Roach for their time going to DC, going to to St. Paul. I I do really truly think that they were very worthwhile um trips and just it's hard to kind of convey how impactful it is and without
being there because there's so many different experiences we got to have on interacting with legislators, learning how the process works, meeting with other city officials from across the country. It's it's hard to explain, but it was really um a good experience. And so I just thank the whole council for supporting us and letting us go to that.
and um but I just appreciate you guys all and all the time that you put into this and and I know as we head into the this project, it's going to be um it's going to be a tough summer. There's going to be some inconveniences for people, but um I think from a city perspective are you know what we can do
is just try to be as responsive as we can to uh residents with uh concerns, complaints, and um try to do our best with communication. And I wanted to point out that today I think there was some miscommunication in that there was some work done that we weren't um
necessarily aware of at city hall otherwise we would have pushed it out. Um I know public works Hartman was surprised too and I did talk to Brian Sarith Balden Mink and he said you know he he understood too and it's just we'll have to work with the contractor and
make sure you know if we're early on we're having some communication issues we got to get it addressed right away. So, um, but just, you know, we'll do our best to try to, um, get information out to residents, but we can only get out what we have for information. So, um,
but so far, everybody's been pretty pretty good to work with. And, you know, I've been really um, surprised at um, some of the nice comments from people that we know this is going to be tough, but it will be better when it when it's done. So, but just wanted to share that. So, thank you.
>> Perfect. Any questions for Jennifer before we move on? >> Council member reports. >> She covered everything I would have had. >> Nick, uh, T-ball registration's out. Uh,
for those of people who are interested, um, a lot more prepared this time around than we were last year. >> You have more than two weeks to prep. >> Yeah. So excited for it. um you know, one of the ball fields we use up at Eagle Lake Elementary and that's going to be kind of um I guess an issue for
parking at least, but the ball field will be open. I've got confirmation, so have to work through it, but yep, sign up. >> Summer Sounds is approaching really fast. >> Um and we'll be getting together very
soon. It should plug in very easily. All right. Next, city council is May 4th at 6 PM here at the council chambers, EDA, April 23rd at 6:45 here in the council chambers, park board, April 9th at 7
a.m. And then the planning commission, April 20th at 6:00 pm. All here at the council chambers. I look for a motion to adjourn. Mayor and INC council, before you adjourn, I just thought of one thing that if it's okay, I I apologize, but it is something I think would be good to get on the record. I apologize. So, I
got an email today from in a voicemail from um Michael Josephson with Maguire. um they were the the company that did our water tower um rehab project and uh they are inquiring about final payment
and everything is in order for final payment with the exception of there are some issues that um public works director Hartman and um Jamie Connor with Bolton Mink had noticed do you want to kind of elaborate a little bit on those issues so we're trying to get those resolved they're pushing because they want final payment but the reason
we haven't released final payment is because we need to get the coding issue resolved Yeah. So, during the Verizon project, um, we noticed at the top of the tower there's some delamination in the paint.
Um, there's a few spots, you know, that are, you know, this big, but after two and a half years, you know, they're that big. We want to make sure that, you know, in 10 years they're not half the tower peeling off.
>> Um, so I've been in contact with Jamie. He's working with them um to figure out next steps and where we're at with like doing some delamination testing and things like that. Um so I think just
this afternoon Jamie responded to to uh what is his name? Michael. >> Yeah. um about um you know if he has any concerns, you know, to contact him about why they're not getting final payment
quite yet. Um Jamie's talked to other people through Meuire, but obviously the the pieces aren't connecting there, so he's going to connect them for us. And um yeah, so hopefully those issues will
be resolved and figured out so when they come to do the paint repairs on the tower for the Verizon project, they can do those repairs at the same time. >> And it'll be the same painters that did the original painting will be doing the
Verizon touchup and possibly is that different. So, originally Verizon was going to have a third party come and paint um with the delamination stuff. You know, we notified Maguire and they said that they want to be the ones to do
the paint repairs. So, um and it was actually a subcontractor that originally did the paint, not even Meguire. So, there's a lot of hands in it. And >> thanks for your time. I just I as I was checking email here, I just noticed that
and I just wanted to get that in the minutes because I just don't want it to appear as if we're trying to withhold payment. There's a valid reason and so thank you for letting me add that on. Appreciate it. Now anybody adjournments
>> motion >> motion second or ajourned. >> Thanks everybody. >> Just 38 seconds over two hours. in the garage. >> Did you think it was real?
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