Get out of here. Huh? Okay, I'm going to set this in the middle. What do you think? Why should I start now? I'm kidding. Good job. There's a work.
Thank Anybody want Anybody want anybody else? All right. in business. >> Oh my gosh,
>> that sounds awful. October. We'll do some proced It's very important for ask any questions that you have to
Just make sure your name address on the evening is the approval of the last [Music] Second approval from motion from
Michael. All in favor? >> Oh, sorry. Can you hear me now? Is that better? Okay. Uh, so we have a um a move uh by Tom. Do we have a second? >> I'll second. >> Second by Richard. All in favor?
>> I >> I. Any opposed? Motion carries. So, that brings us to new business. Our public hearing for this evening uh would be resoning of parcel R121 018180022. Jennifer, I'll turn it over to you. >> Thank you, Chair Tally and Commission. I
just want to thank everybody for taking time to be here tonight. um we appreciate your engagement and um I think this is a sign of a healthy community to have a residents uh show up for a topic that's um important to them. So I will kick it off. My name is Jennifer Brumlin, city administrator
with the city of Eagle Lake. I'm just going to go through u just uh kind of an overview of uh why we're here tonight and then I'll explain the process once the public hearing concludes and um if there's any questions at the end just let me know. Um, so as Chair Tally mentioned, we're
here for a public hearing. Uh, we have a resoning request for parcel R121018180.022. Um, was submitted by the property owner uh, who is Justin Bower. Oops. So, first I'm just going to present a
little background information and some facts about the resoning request. Um after the presentation's over, um everyone that's in attendance will have an opportunity to speak uh during the public hearing. When you do come up to speak, if you do wish to, uh we'll just ask that you come to the podium, state
your first and last name for the record, um along with your address. And because of obviously we've got a large room full of people, we just ask that you please limit it to three minutes per person so that everybody has a chance to be able to speak. Once the public hearing closes, uh, the planning commission will
dis discuss the request and then make a recommendation to the city council. Um, some background. So, the reasonzoning request, um, currently the parcel is zoned B1. Um, it's a community business district. Uh, the property
owner is seeking to reszone it to multifamily residential. Um the property owner would like to propose two eightplex buildings which would total 16 units. Um the parcel is currently surrounded by single family homes. A few
years back there was a proposal by the property owner to um put up multif family but at a lower scale uh but due to variance requirements and some public feedback that request was withdrawn.
Right now the parcel is vacant. um generating minimal property tax revenue. Um as I kind of mentioned uh before, we recognize that um some residents might not want multifamily housing. Um but something to point out is that the
property is privately owned. Uh the city does not own the land and we're not investing the development. I've heard some comments from residents, uh why doesn't the city use its money for something else? But the city is not investing any money into this proposed um concept. The owner can develop the
property consistent with current B1 zoning if the resoning request is not approved. Um my job here as city staff is just to provide um information context so that the planning commission um can consider all the facts um which include neighborhood character,
infrastructure, community needs when they make their recommendation. So, up on the screen, I know it's really hard to see, but I just took a screenshot from uh the Beacon website, and it just shows an aerial view of the current parcel right there. So, you'll
see um Agency Street, Second Street, Linda Street. Uh next, again, this is really hard to see on this map, but it's a copy of our zoning map. Uh we can make that larger um for further discussion. And then this is just a copy of the current uh land
use map. And this is an updated concept plan from the uh developer showing and we'll let the developer explain this in more detail uh following my presentation. Uh just shows their proposed layout.
So, with the public hearing process, uh the city was required to uh post notice um publish it in the newspaper and mail notice to residents. And I did receive some feedback from some of you that you did not receive notice. Um we did mail
out notice to all properties within 350 ft. So, I'm not sure why some of you didn't receive it. Uh but we did take it to the post office. Um and I don't have an answer as to why they didn't receive why they didn't make it to your mailbox. Um the information I'm presenting this
evening um is uh neutral and just factual information. And then when the planning commission makes this its decision, they'll have to factor in multiple um factors in making the recommendation to the city council. We'll go into those in a little more detail as we go on.
So um I consulted with some um regional and economic development professionals to find a little bit more about Eagle Lake housing. Sometimes we hear comments or questions asking if we're too saturated with multif family housing, what's our ratio? So, some information
um taken from our economic strategic economic development plan, which we completed in 2022 at that time said um that we had 1,168 housing units. We had a vacancy rate of 4.6% uh whereas the county was at 8.3 and the
state at 10.2%. owner occupied at that time was 59.9% compared to county um 66.5 in the state 64.6. Um another stat that came from that study was showing us that nearly 30% of
homes built in 2000 or later um comprise Eagle Lakes housing. Our median housing age is about is 1991 um which is newer than the county and state average. Um which obviously indicates Eagle Lake is a growing community. Um
after consulting with again regional economic development professionals um the Mano housing study was referenced and it showed that there's a need for 271 rental units, 1,883 single family
detached units, 1,185 single family attached units. Um and basically this data is reflecting housing needs in their primary market area outside the city limits. So include cities like Eagle Lake. Multifamily housing supports rental demand and contributes to
balanced housing options. So some planning considerations planning commission will look at compat compatibility with surrounding neighborhood consistency with the city land use map infrastructure capacity water sewer streets traffic and roadway
capacity storm water management public services such as law enforcement emergency services uh prior variance requests in historical land use local and regional housing demand and if zoning is not per approved the parcel remains B1 zoning and could be developed
with any permitted B1 use um provided that all other B1 regulations are met. So, I just wanted to touch on the properties currently zoned B1 Community Business District. Um and in that district, it's intended to accommodate a
broad range of commercial uses. I did not include all of the permitted uses on a slide because right now there's 70 plus uh in our city code. I just kind of pulled out some random ones um such as automobile parts and service stores um exterminators, funeral home, laundry
service, self-service storage facilities, taxiderermy services, and many other commercial uses. This means that if the resoning is not approved, the parcel could be developed under any permitted B1 use, provided that all other zoning regulations are
met. and I just wanted to share this information to make sure that the planning commission is aware of the potential uses of the property as it's existing um legally zoned. So, I've heard some questions and concerns and I just wanted to put out
some information. I tried to do my best to gather um accurate information to respond. Sometimes a question will come up about property values and a concern that multifamily being constructed around single family will result in a decline in property values. I did reach out to
the Blue Earth County assessor and he said he often hears that concern, but he has no local data to support um that there's been a decline in um single family home values in Blue Earth County due to new multifamily construction. As
far as law enforcement concerns, um higher density housing, I did consult with our law enforcement and was told that there really is there just isn't data supporting that there's been um additional calls for service in multifamily any more so than there is
anywhere else in town. Um traffic, that's a good question that came up. I did consult with the city engineer um and he used some uh guidelines that are put out and based on the projected units and number of people that would be
living in the development. Um it's estimated that there would be 6.65 trips per unit per day which would equate to about 107 trips per day and then overall about a 4 to 5% increase on our local streets for traffic.
As far as storm water, the site is less than an acre. Um, so wouldn't require a pond, but there would have to be something such as a rain gardened, some sort of bofiltration, and that is currently shown on the concept plan, but if it advances to the stage of um
pulling a building permit, we would require a full plan for review. As far as infrastructure, I did contact our city engineer um and we have sufficient capacity for water, sewer, and streets. would not have to construct any new uh
utilities in this area. And as I already mentioned, funding um the project is privately funding. There's no public funds that would be going into this project. So sometimes we talk about single family versus multifamily and um just want to
highlight some of the different um you know attributes with each. So multif family housing provides rental options for households of different types. In this situation, the proper would be responsible for ma maintenance and management of the units as far as snow removal, lawn mowing, upkeep of the the
structure. Um it would add housing diversity to the community and support broader housing options. Uh the previous proposal um requireed required some variances and had some push back and therefore it was uh withdrawn.
The current proposal, as it is right now, appears to meet zoning regulations for a multifamily if it was reszoned to R4. Our vacancy rates and housing demand data indicate continued need for rental housing um in both Eagle Lake and the region.
So, just to recap again, the public hearing process. So, the planning commission will consider all relevant factors in their decision. Public input and discussion are encouraged during the hearing. Um, those wishing to speak, remember, just go right up to the podium, speak directly into the microphone, state your name and address
for the record. Um, please limit your comments to three minutes. We'll try to do our best here to help um, keep track of time. And, um, we appreciate your participation. Following um, the public hearing, the planning commission will deliberate and
formulate a recommendation to send to the city council. The city council then considers a recommendation and has to act within 60 days. Adoption of a zoning amendment requires twothirds affirmative vote of the council. Um if approved, then it moves on to the site plan review
process and a building permit is pulled. Uh if denied, the parcel remains B1 and as we already um reviewed here this evening, any permitted B1 use would be um would be allowed would not require any further city council or planning
commission action. If any questions, um, just let me know. I know I went through that kind of fast, but I want to allow sufficient time for public comment. >> All right. Thank you, Jennifer. Uh, next up will be the applicant. Did you want to add anything to that presentation? >> All right. Thank you. So, at this time,
we'll open the public hearing. So, I show it's 6:17. Uh again, if you wish to uh to to speak, please uh come up to the podium, state your name and address. Hi, I'm Deborah Murphy. My address is 117 Hawk Avenue. Um,
regarding the zoning of this property, it's currently um zoned B1 commercial, but it's being taxed as unimproved residential property. Um, so they aren't paying
the rate of a commercial. There is currently a lot at 1042nd Street which is unimproved commercial. It's a.12 acre lot and they are paying $354 in total property taxes.
This parcel is 1.05 acres and at unimproved residential they are paying $724 in total taxes. So if that was being taxed at a commercial rate they'd be paying much higher taxes
then. So, it should be I feel it should be zoned residential if that's what it's classified for tax rates. um as far as what level of residential it should be
and for this proposed um project would have to be zoned R4 according to Eagle Lake Code article 36.10R4
multiple family residents. Um, one of the points under there says that the max ground coverage for all structures and hard paved surfaces shall not exceed 35%
of the total lot area. So that includes all the parking spots, all the sidewalks. Um, so twothirds of it approximately should be uncovered or uncovered ground. According to the
diagram, it doesn't appear to be. So, I also have questions on whether or not they plan to rent to um people with children. And there's no areas for
children to play according to their um plan right now. They are um a half mile from the closest public playground or park. So that means the
children if there's no area to play there will have to travel a ways to get to a playground area. And um so it says the max ground coverage for
all structures shall not exceed 35%. And according to the definitions the word shall is mandatory and not discretionary. So there can be no variance from that code. Thank you.
>> Thank you Deb. So Deb, just to follow up a couple things on your comments. So property tax, we don't set property tax here at the planning uh commission. We don't uh go into the assessments. Um so I don't know if that's something that Jennifer could speak to or if that's you know at the county level. I'm not sure. Uh in
terms of 36.1 max ground coverage at 35%. Jennifer, did you want to take that one? >> Sure. Um, so I can't remember if it was two months ago now or I sorry I don't have the exact date but it' be in our minutes. We had done an amendment to our
city code. There had been a comprehensive code update uh with a former staff person and in that update there was um an um inadvertent combination of hard service and um maximum lot coverage uh structure and um
hard service combined together. And so we just recently went through that process to amend code and it was an oversight a housekeeping keeping end on the city's end. We did R1, R2, R3, and it should have been R42 because everything the intent is to revert back to what it was prior to that code
update. So that that would have to get a change get amended and that was the intent. It just didn't get done. So we've got um the other R1, R2, R3 have all reverted back to the prior language. So >> it separated them out. So the hard hard
service was not considered part of maximum lot coverage. It was not part of the same thing. and I reached out to the former staff person um and she said that was not my intent. She didn't know why that hap or why that got in there, but that was not the intent and so therefore we went and made the change. Um but or
for it was an oversight was not included. We need to get that changed. So that would separate maximum uh lot coverage and separate out the hard surface coverage. That's the way the code has always been in the past. So
>> hard surface is not included >> in the maximum lot coverage. There's a whole there's a different calculation for that. Yep. So that would require an amendment. We'll have to go through the amendment process just like we did for R1, R2, and R3. >> All right. Thank you. Is there anyone
else that wishes to speak? >> Bob Winkler, 313 South Agency Street. Uh few years ago it was proposed to put in duplexes and that was shut down. Now you're coming around and you're going to put in
two eight plexes. You're in a single family area, the density, population, residence, whatever else. Like she said, where are they going to play? I got a basketball court across. I don't care.
They come over and play basketball. I ask you, how would you like it down here in your new fancy areas down here if all of a sudden you had two big barns put up? How would you like that in our area? Oh, it's a big deal because you don't live there.
But we live there because we are single family units all around. I see you. You know, you got your eyes going boing boing because of tax revenue and that. Oh yeah. Don't tell me.
>> Yeah. >> Well, I do it because what's it going to do to my property values? I mean, already they keep jacking them up all the time. If you're on a fixed income, you're screwed. Now, it's Justin's land, and by God, it's his land, and he should be able to
do what he wants to do within reason. Every one of you would want to do something to your property, and you would want to do it whatever. It's Justin's property. I don't really care to have two Apexes put up there. But it's his
property. If he want to cut it down, whatever. But you think about it. It's your property. And they come in there and tell you what you can do with what you can't do. Think about it. Yep. I I don't care.
I own the other half of the street over there. And it's going to put out more people on the road every morning. All these kids out running around. I like kids. They keep the community young. But think about it. You wouldn't put in
duplexes and now you're going to put in a Isn't that something? Thank you. [Applause] Thank you, Bob. >> Hi, I'm Bob's neighbor and I totally
agree with him and anytime you bring more >> Can you give us your name and address, please? >> 405 South Agency Street, Janice Sins, but With more people, you have more chances of things going wrong. Agency is a very
busy street. Kids aren't even allowed to cross it for trick-or-treating. It's a busy, busy street. I know because I'm home all the time and there's constantly trucks and traffic constantly. So, it's going to be an issue if you
have children in the in that place. Not only that, but I don't want any more chances of crime. I found a bullet two feet from my garage door. And that's directly across from that that lot. And it was a spent bullet. And Brenda,
you know that. I brought it up to Brenda. You bring more people in and that are renters who don't care. Some might. Most don't. It's not their property. It's not their stuff. They live there for a little bit and
they get kicked out or they live there for a long time and hopefully it's nice. I don't want apartment buildings in my neighborhood. We're single family homes. Thank you. [Applause]
>> Thank you, Janice. >> Hi, I am Tanya Bernett. I live at 100 Linda Drive. Jeff. >> Um, and while yes, you say that you talk to somebody about property taxes and why technically it might not go down on
paper, we all know when we go house shopping, we're not looking for a four bedroomedroom, two bath surrounded by a parking lot. No one will buy our home and therefore we'll have to sell it for way less than what we paid for it. Why
am I still be worth that much? No one is going to pay for our home that now I get to have a parking lot literally eight feet from where me and my family and not even our kids swim. You can see the pool. It's right on the other side of
our pool. Now, I don't know about you, but I have to deal with I am on agency. It's very busy. I don't have a lot of privacy. But when I'm in the pool with my family, I don't want a parking lot full of people who I don't know. I know
who lives in the greenhouse. I know who lives across the street and who lives in the blue house. So, I don't have to worry about who are these people around my family. Justin has a right. It is his land. I get that. But that is my land and I
should have not that built on our home. It's ridiculous. So that's what I have to say about that. >> On top of how many how many other people are going to be in that you have 64
people there on top of all the other people that are going to be coming through there. There's going to be a lot more traffic, a lot more noise pollution. People don't care. They're not going to come in there and say, "Hey, this is a nice place. I'm going to keep it up for him. I don't want to live next to that. I won't.
>> And maybe the builder Where is the dumpster located on this one? Because before it was right next to our house like garbage. >> So I don't know where the dumpster is on this one, but it was what I'm going to get. Walked it in my backyard on a hot summer day.
>> Justin, would you be able to speak to that? our house or you know >> I think it's their house. >> Yeah. All right. So, if there's another uh public
comment, we're certainly uh open to taking that. So, we just ask you to come to the podium again. Speak your name and address, please. My name is Megan Bajullah Hagen at 116 Blaze Avenue. Um, so you guys are hearing a whole lot of I don't want it here because not in
my backyard. I just wanted to give a little bit of information maybe to back up why people don't want it. Um so the land use plan for Eagle Lake does mention that they want to increase um
the limited u multifamily housing and in the map that was posted in the packet um the city of Eagle Lake in the plan does have that south and north on the east side of
agency and this um parcel in all of their former planning for the future um shows it as R1. So for the comp plan because that's one of the things you guys have to consider when making your decision is what was the plan for Eagle Lake and so yes
diverse um density is something they have planned but it was not planned for that area and you guys have an area planned for that. Um you also mentioned in your land use plan um that you do think that reszoning forable for
affordable housing is the goal. Um but again you have already set areas aside south um east on agency. You have an area that is currently R1 that you have marked to potentially reszone to higher zoning. So you already have an area
where you plan to reszone for this density. So I want you to consider that. Um also would like you to consider the traffic. I know um you guys have mentioned that you don't think it will increase. Um you gave a small percentage but a small percentage on that road um
is not small. There's a people walk that all the time all day. And if the parking does not appear adequate um for that big of a complex also you need parking for visitors. Um if you're not
going to consider that for the um zoning. Please consider it when you're doing your permit um for visitors because if they start parking along the road on Linda and second that is going to also impact safety. You guys have to consider safety and general welfare
welfare for the community. So I want you guys to consider that as well. Um they now have three exits coming in and out of there. That is going to be a lot of traffic and hitting a lot of roads. um Linda and second um does not have a sidewalk and if they're going to be parking along the side, there's going to
be some v visibility concerns. So, I strongly encourage you to request a traffic study even though that has not been historically your stance and I think that would ease a lot of people's minds if you did. And if you did that, maybe it shows that
16 isn't enough maybe or is too much and maybe they could do 10. their traffic study may prove that or show that they have too much. Um so please consider either for reszoning or for the construction permit. Um the next
item was infrastructure and if everything is going to go to the new water manes on um agency I would say potentially yes. But if anything goes to the water manes on Linda or second I
would say no. We have water main breaks constantly on all of those um backside roads and it would not support this. Um so in the planning for the permit um if we could make sure that is done or we have substantial evidence showing that
it wouldn't. Um so I just wanted to make sure that you guys um had something to go off of other than I just don't want it. Um so please consider traffic and the land use plan when making your decision. Thank you.
[Applause] Thank you, Megan. Uh, if we could just take a moment and address a couple of those things. Um, so parking areas. So, chapter six of the zoning code, uh, is going to discuss how
much parking is required. Uh, and that's, uh, those requirements are what are required of the developer, uh, when they submit plans to the city. Jennifer, I don't know if you know those. I don't know those off the top of my head. I believe right now um I don't have it right in front of me um but I believe
from um memory it's two stalls per unit is required um um but we would do a much thorough review when we actually got past this point >> okay >> before anything would be approved. And then in terms of traffic, I also understand that is there a study that is
coming up uh for sidewalks and potentially having a crossing and I could be wrong there, but maybe I saw that at a city council meeting. >> Um, nope. There is not a study planned at this time. I did consult with our city engineer and he had uh used a tool
that um engineers typically use when they were to um kind of calculate um an increase in in traffic volume on roadways. Because an EAW wasn't triggered in this project, it's not part of the process.
Doesn't mean that it couldn't be required. It just isn't something that we normally would require the developer to to >> Was there a sidewalk study that was looked at and potentially trying to connect? >> So, there will be a connectivity project. Yep. That would be further south. >> Yep, you're correct.
>> Okay. It's >> It should be right under one acre unless at least that was what I'm my recollection is of it. >> Not necessarily. That would we'd have to look at the drainage. Um we'd have to
look at everything with the property and review it with the city engineer. So just because of one acre doesn't automatically trigger that. There's other factors that go into that, but um my understanding is that it's under an acre. Again, we would have to look at all of
that as this process goes further. >> All right. Is there anyone else that wishes to speak? >> Jason Hammond, 317 South Second Street. So, um, yes, this is I know this is in
my backyard clearly. Um, my concern is my biggest concern is just the spacing of that lot. It's just how much stuff is going in that lot and the size of it. So, I mean, looking at it, that development is within 10 ft of my
property line on it. All of our bedrooms in the house are on the south side of that house. Justin knows that we bought the house from him. So, he knows that's our master bedroom window right there. Our house is the one in the upper left
corner. Our master bedroom faces out that way. So, yeah, it clearly is a not in my backyard thing, but that just does not fit the neighborhood. The neighborhood is not built with that in it. Yes, I understand developments like that are going across the street, but
they have spacing around it. They filled in that neighborhood. That's what it's for. This neighborhood is not built for that. It's like we're trying to squeeze that in there and it just doesn't work. Justin did come and talk to me. I applaud him for that. Thank you. The
more I thought about this, the more I got frustrated with it. It's hard. It's extremely hard because I look at it too. I don't know if we're going to stay in that house. I'm like, it's a five-bedroom house. It's two of us. My kids are going to grow out. I don't know if we're going to stay in there. You
can't tell me that our house is not going to be lower in value. There's no way. There's no way. I understand that it brings prosperity. It brings vibrance. It thrives in the neighborhood by having stuff like that, but it's definitely
right next to my house. Thank you. [Applause] Thank you, Jason. Is there anyone else that wishes to speak?
>> So, my name is Alex Pasquez. I'm at 312 and 308 Lassour Avenue. not directly surrounding uh this particular property, but I do frequently walk through the community. And I was just doing a headcount several
times of people in this room. And I got to half of them and that's 32 people. And imagine the parking lot in just this small space. And that's going to be in someone's backyard.
And when I'm walking, there's going to be so much unnecessary clutter in such such a beautiful neighborhood. Just think about it when you leave and you try to not wait five minutes for all
the cars that are parking behind city hall here. And that's going to be even more condensed in a one acre lot, which we have much more than that just in this little area. I happen to park on the street, but that
was my choosing. Uh people that live there don't have that choice, but they do have a voice, and it sounds like they are speaking up loudly today. Um, I'm just wanting to support all that people because I was contemplating that as I
was driving in to come and see what was being done in the community I live in. I am operating a business in and wanting to make sure that yes, there is appropriate place and appropriate time for all of this stuff to happen. And
someone just mentioned that across agency there's a lot of places there's a lot of land that one can buy that has plenty of space in Eagle Lake. Why not take that opportunity to if you really want to grow the community do that but
do it in the appropriate space in the appropriate time that doesn't impact the lives of others that are long roots here. I'm I don't have the longest roots here, but I'm trying to do that. And it
something close to me because it's such a cool little town and I see it growing from Mano here. There's 25 different houses that just got built between here and Mayo Clinic, a little clinic right
there, East Ridge. There's probably 35 houses that went up in like four months. And yeah, it's great revenue for the developer and great revenue. There's nobody around to to complain. Fantastic.
But in that small area, it's a very small, tight space right in someone's backyard, eight feet away from this lady's home. and someone's going to have to smell everybody's trash right in
their backyard, whether it's across the street or not. And just keeping that in mind because I love this I love this community. I'm growing to find that everybody's welcoming, caring, passionate about the small town vibe. And I think that that will just kind of
put a hindrance on that cool vibe. It's a really cool hip town. You want to have a lot of people upset for no reason. I mean, why why do that when there's so much other space? I mean, we're surrounded by empty lots.
Why that one? Yes, he owns it. Great. I own two lots, too. Doesn't mean I should put 15 apartments in it, you know. So, just keep that in mind for the people that have been here for a long time. And that really it's going to impact a lot of people closely.
So, thank you. [Applause] Thank you, Alex. Is everyone anyone else? Sarah Venom, 117 Linda Drive. We live
Kitty Corner from the lot. We are not like him. We are longtime residents. We love it that Eagle Egg could grow, but it should not probably grow in our single home residence. We are very worried about the traffic. We have some little here tonight that are great
neighbors and there's going to be a lot of kids around and we have a stop sign right out our window. A lot of people don't stop at it. So, I can only see that danger increasing. So, thank you for considering not
[Applause] >> Thank you, Sarah. Hey, I'm uh Nate Envold. I live at 101 Linda Drive. I'm directly across the street from the people on the corner there. I have two kids. I know that this is going to bring heavy traffic, people who do not care about what they're going
to bring as far as disrupting the neighborhood. It's a peaceful neighborhood. We don't need anybody who's not going to really care for it. Everybody around here, I know a lot of them. I work at the Eagle's Nest. I know these people daily. I see them all the time. They're great people. Everyone
loves this community. We we really don't need this. We don't need random people showing up in our community causing disruption. I I really don't think that this is going to benefit anybody here. It's also going to devalue our property value. I that I
really don't have much else to say, but I just wanted to voice my opinion. But, you know, [Applause] thank you, Nate.
Hi. Um, Mary Diaz, 109 Linda Drive. Um, I live across the street. I live in the blue house across the street. Um, we've been living there for 10 years. Uh, we have three kids and like many have mentioned. Um, I know there's there's two kids that live next to us, two that
live across the street. Um, two no three in that house. There's kids, little kids all around. Um, we know the street, Linda Drive, just got redone, which is great. My kids are absolutely loving the street right now. They're riding the bikes up and down, riding the scooters.
It's the first time they've been able to do that. It just got done. And now we're going to have these apartment buildings to where I mean, we already have to be careful because even though we're a small community, people will turn on to Linda Drive. They'll speed down that road. So, there is already caution
because of that. And what's going to happen when all of these up to 64 people living here? So, it's supposed to be 32 parking spaces, which I'm having a hard time counting all that, especially with when you're counting the dumpsters they're going to be adding. And then on
top of that, what about the teens that are in the houses driving? If there's teens that live with those families, what about if they have motorcycles, right? Because everybody likes to enjoy summertime and get out. So, there's cars, there's there's motorcycles, there's all the visitors. I just it is
way too small of a space to be able to fit everything that they're trying to put into that space. It's going to absolutely disrupt everything that we've been trying to build for years. Um I know we get compliments all the time on, oh well, you know, you've really taken the extra lot and made something out of
it. But we've added value to the neighborhood just because of the presence it's bringing. Adding the trees and the rocks and trying to add to it rather than trying to put stuff like this up for people to see. I mean, and
plus if I want to get chickens in Eagle Lake, I have to ask all of my neighbors, but they can come in and just put these two apexes in. I mean, it's just ridiculous. Um, just wanted to give my two cents. Thank you so much for listening. I appreciate it.
>> Thank you, Mary. >> Nicole Davos, 101 Valley Lane. Uh, I came today just to listen. I didn't plan on ravel rousing, but I feel the need to jump in. I've been a 13-year resident of Eagle Lake, renting for all 13 years. Um, so I want to just say that we're not all riff raft. Um, some of us are good
contributing citizens. That said, we live in the Valley Lane town homes where, um, I think my landlord does a really good job of vetting, um, the tenants there. Uh, at least four of us have been living there for four plus years. So, we see ourselves as members
of this community. Um, I would love to buy a home in Eagle Lake. It's an affordability issue, but I can tell you right now, um, that house on the corner of Agency when it was for sale a few years ago and I eyeballed it. If we could have afforded it, we would have bought it. I wouldn't look at that house
twice now. Um, just again for those who do own homes in the area, as a renter looking to buy a house, I wouldn't be looking next to some of these units. Um, so that's kind of just what I wanted to contribute. I do think um affordable
housing is is uh is a necessity. Um, I don't know that building and fitting two aplexes in in this area is the right way to go. And then just as an aside, um, again, not all of us are are riff raff. I pick up after my dog, but in the
area where I live, the the units that are there, they don't do a great job of picking up after their dogs. So, there's just some little things that come with living in the community that I do think when you have renters who come in and come out, which I'm assuming that with these types of units, you do get more turnover than you would maybe a town
home situation. There's just some of those things that come with it along with the traffic. Um I think that is a real concern. So anyways, didn't mean to razouse, but felt the need to get up and speak. [Applause] >> Thank you, Nicole.
>> 102 Agency Street. Um my family's been in this town for 70 years. I've been here for 44. When my dad moved here, Maywood was the last street in the town. So, towns are meant to grow and expand, and that's what should happen. However, you have to remember the neighborhood you're in. It says that the average
house is 1991. I've been here 44 years. All those houses, with the exception of my brother-in-law's house, were all built way before that. So, I think the people that bought their houses in this time did not expect anything like this to grow. Like they said, the houses that are around there, it is going to make
people think twice about buying them because they wouldn't want to buy it with a parking lot in the backyard. So, I think that should be taken into perspective of all the people that bought those houses expecting what was going to be done with the stuff around them and the neighborhood they bought it in being historically older in Eagle
Lake. [Applause] Thank you. Good evening. My name is Jeff Call. I live at 232 Blaze Avenue.
And some people in here know me. I've been a realtor around here since 1977. I bought my house on Blaze Avenue in 1980. So, I've lived here for 45 years. I love it here. I have a lot of the neighbors that live around me have been
here as long or almost as long or longer than I have even on the same blocks. I want to just speak from a valuation standpoint. Number one, I think putting apartments in there is not the highest
and best use for the property. I think there are other uses that could be more accommodating to everyone else who lives in the area. I can also attest from my many years of being in the business that apartment buildings or a commercial
structure next to the what is left over is R1 single family residences will lower the property values. And the person who spoke up here that said they wouldn't look as a home buyer leaving a
rental unit for something what we're talking about right here. It's true. I'm going through it right now in a house in Mano where there's a daycare, small daycare in the backyard and that's the only comments I get back on the negative
side. Don't want to be near commercial property and it's a beautiful home. That's all I've got to say. Thank you. Thank you, Jeff. I'm Markman. I live 46 in Agency Street, Eagle Lake.
Uh I'm glad that he's willing to do something with this lot. I was hoping for town homes or regular homes. But you got to consider he's taking care of it. He's willing to do something with it. He's not leaving it go wild like my
neighbor is. My neighbor's house is a disaster in the backyard. I have to grow mow three yards on the other side of the fence so I don't get weeds on my yard and there's other houses around Eagle Lake that are disastrous.
I'm just very glad that he's willing to do something. And the traffic control, I sit in front of my yard five days a week and the traffic is nonstop. Non-stop. semiis, dump trucks,
and everything else. And they're developing town homes. Key corn from me. Big dump trucks 7:00 in the morning. Rolloff trucks 8:00 in the morning. When I go to leave at night, go to KO, I got
to wait at least 5 to 10 minutes to get on my driveway. So, I've been dealing with her for a long time. But town, I don't know why you guys cut down town homes, but I would have a town home in that uh
than a uh apartment building. And they're not done building by me yet. So, there's more traffic there and kids there. So, it's up to you guys what you want to do, but I'm glad he's taking care of it
and not let it run down. If you want to see a rundown house, come and look in my backyard. It is a disaster and you guys don't do nothing about it. And there's other houses around here, too, and other
places that can make this town look trashy. So, that's all I got to say. [Applause] Thank you, Mark. Uh for the record, you
had me just mentioned a couple things. Just want to address those real quick. Uh as far as cutting down town homes, I don't think it was ever officially uh brought to the planning commission. I think we saw um like a proposal, but there wasn't anything. We didn't move we didn't um make any recommendations to
the city council on town homes for that location. Um so just wanted to make sure we're all on that same page. Was there anyone else that wanted to speak? So, for the record, uh this is coming from Janice. Janice is wondering if any
of the uh properties that uh but this property received a notice in the mail. Well, I can tell you that we did, city staff did take the letters to the post office. Once we drop them at the post office, I can't control what happens to it from that point. But thankfully, you
guys heard about this and you're here tonight. So, I'm I'm glad that >> So, we'll continue with the public hearing. We have someone at the podium that wishes to speak. >> Hi, I'm Cody Echart. Um at 200 Linda Drive in that corner lot on
Second Street and Linda there, that red house. Um we have three young boys in that house. Um they like to play outside and you know that's one of my main concerns is their safety. Having more traffic in the
the neighborhood is a big concern of mine. Also, uh um the property value thing too, having that right across the street, our windows looking we got a big window looking right out at those apartment complexes if they were to go
there. Um so you can't tell me that wouldn't affect any value. Um no, I just also want to say thank you to everyone for coming to the uh hearing tonight and showing up and voicing your
concerns and thank you to you guys too for for hearing us out too. So, [Applause] >> thank you, Cody. >> Yeah, if you'd like to come up.
And we did um prior to the meeting tonight, we did speak with a couple of the neighbors, Jeff and Jason. Um and then maybe Justin may have talked with a couple others, but we did try to listen to what they had to say and make some changes to the plan from the original concept we brought here the previous
month. We did move the building away from Jason's house. We talked to them about we can add some trees and screening, you know, to um give them some more privacy if that's what they were looking for. Um then in our opinion by changing the
zoning to R4 versus the B1 we think it's it's a better fit than you know what the potential could be. I I did look at the city code for B1 and the the setbacks for the side and rear yards I believe are only three feet and then
the front yard is only 15 feet if a B1 um project went in there. And that doesn't require I believe any city council or planning commission meetings, they could just come in and get a with a plan and walk out with a permit a few weeks later. Um
the actual parking for um the units that we have, the other ones in town that Lloyd Management still still the the other units in town that we have and then that Lloyd Management still um leases. We asked them, you know, what the ratio is per unit per
adult tenant for vehicles and parking just to so we knew that was a concern and we average 1.6 adult tenants per unit. So in this, you know, in this scenario here, if we would continue with that same ratio, we would utilize about 25 parking spots. If you look at other
developments that we've done here in town and in Mano, there's generally always empty spots and spots available. So in the winter time when we have to do snow removal, you know, we can clean out the empty stalls, clean out the openings, and then there's still places for people to move and um you know, then
we clean up after when they leave and go to work and stuff like that. So that another thing and then the other areas in the city, um I heard one resident was a Valley Lane building. That's that's a multif family unit that I built next to single family homes. We had a meeting
similar to this. A lot of people weren't happy, but you know, it's just just tough at first and then after everything settles down, you know, people are neighborly, you know, and just it's just just this is the the hard part. Um there's also uh Eagle Avenue, um which
has multif family there next to R1 Connie Lane and and then regarding the values of those homes um around those areas, it's just not true. They they've only gone up. If you look at the assessor's website, you know, the values of the single family homes near those apartments over the years have not
decreased in value. They've only gone up in value. So, and we're still available to answer any other questions. >> Thank you, Justin. >> Yep. Troy Michaels 302 Conetta and I definitely was not going to speak
tonight and I I saw it on uh city email or newsletter and I guess I'm a firm believer and that's let's do what's right so I thought I'd come and listen and I just wanted I don't know about questions or comments but it's clarification and Jennifer you did a good job with your slides on the
research leading up to it but so if this just so I'm clear it's B1 today but that doesn't mean that a funeral home or a parts store or a car shop would go there, right? Somebody could still come back and ask for like R1 zoning. Is that
fair? >> Correct. Yep. Um the property owner could request R1, R2, um R3. Yes. But as it currently is, if for if the planning commission, city council, um deny the resoning requests as it is, the property
legally has a right to put up a B1 permitted business. So a comment or question would be is I mean other than revenue generation which I totally get. >> Could it be in the best interest of both parties is to come back with an R1
request put up three single family homes and be more neighborly to all the people around that are already there. [Applause] And the last thing I'll the comment I'll make is the the reason we need more
multifamily is and and I guess we talked a lot about this like 12 years ago, but we don't have lots anymore in Eagle Lake. If Mr. Henker I mean there's other land owners around, right? We need to start building. We're out of lots. So that's that's another
main reason we don't have uh or we need multi more more multif family. >> And if it if if for some crazy reason this would pass to the city council, I would ask also and whether it's Mr. Jackson or the next person that comes to ask to get something passed. You see the
drawing of exactly what they're building before it gets passed. When Mr. Jackson built last time on the east northeast corner there. He came with beautiful brick, half brick buildings, threetory. They were gorgeous. They look like Eden Prairie.
You you see what's out there now. I mean, they don't look anything like that. So, I would just ask that if it gets to that point, please make sure we know exactly what's being built. Thank you very much. Thank you, Troy. My name is Barbell. I live at 205.
I've lived there now for I only have one question. It's not to the council. It's to the two just something you would want in your neighborhood. [Applause] >> Okay.
>> Thank you, Barb. I don't really understand the whole zoning code thing. It's above my pay grade most days. Um, but what I'm wondering is the reason it's zoned business at all is because his
grandfather had a small community lawnmower shop. There wasn't a car wash or a funeral home or anything there to begin with. And I don't understand why it is not automatically reverted back to what it should be
instead of honestly I would rather have a funeral home than this. I'm sorry. I >> Thank you. Tanya >> Jennifer, did you want to speak to once something is zoned does it automatically revert back to something else? Typically when something comes into the city,
let's say somebody does want to add some lots to the city of Eagle Lake, it comes in as agriculture, comes in as A1. Then the developer has to uh submit their plans to the city of Eagle Lake uh and then it gets zoned accordingly uh at that point in time. um what happens to
it after that if the >> So, um I would want to defer to our legal counsel to give a a more legal response, but I can tell you that um you know, it's it's no different than if we approve um like a variance that that attaches to the land and carries with the land until at some point um you
know, whatever the legal way to trigger a change would occur. But um it'd be for the property owner's own protection that the city council couldn't just come up and come up with an ID and say we want to reszone your parcel. So it's the property owner's right. It's legally zoned B1. And at as far as I understand
for consulting with legal counsel, there is nothing the city could do to block a permitted B1 use from being constructed on this parcel as long as it meets all of their zoning regulations. >> Thank you. And that that is a concern and that's something I want I wanted the
planning commission to be aware of that um that's something else to consider as a potential B1 uses. >> Are there any other comments this evening? >> I have an additional comment. So this is from Deb.
But where are all those cars going to go and so that property and how much is that going to add to trafficing? Thank you, Deb. Justin, do you want to just tell us a little bit about how you
handle that now? Thank you. Justin, >> could you elaborate on those conditions? want to spend money on the concept. >> Chair Tully, could we have um speakers
come up to the podium? And then just a reminder to the public hearing, people are addressing the planning commission, not the developer. >> And reminder, this is live stream. So we do request that you come and uh talk to the microphone so everyone can hear.
>> Go ahead. >> Megan Hagen, 116 Avenue. Um I just wanted to bring up one thing with Yes. Um they are you guys are making the decision on just the reasoning at this point um and whether it is um justifiable um for the reasons you need
to look at with the planning commission the safety and things like that or the um concept planned. Um, one thing I wanted to mention, if it stays V1, um, and I had asked for the traffic plan or traffic study to be considered, um, and that traffic study may show that a lot
of these uses and B1 are less invasive than what um, that 16 plex may be. Um, so that again, if that could be considered um, maybe tableabling and considering a traffic study to show that it would not
be more intensive than the current use. um because this R4 may be more intensive than the V1 and you would be reszoning to a higher intensity in a single family community. Um and then um looking at the
uses of the B1, there is some that could be potentially environmentally harmful harmful like the dry cleaning um and automotive. But in the permitting process, the city is responsible to make sure there are conditions on there to
make sure we are safe in the environment that that is not going to happen. Um so if it's say B1 financially they may not get enough money to do one of these business versus the concept they have now and so they may come back with a lesser um in the R3 or R2 and R2 I
notice for um square footage they could get three um duplexes in there um with the square footage that's available. So if they wanted something higher than single family, they could do so without a variance depending on how they work it
to make it work. So thank you. [Applause] >> Thank you, Megan. Is there anyone else that wishes to speak? Justin Bower, 60494 26th Street, Eagle
Lake. Okay, so you know, over the last couple weeks, I've been reading a lot of comments. Um, a lot of kind of hateful comments towards me, towards what I want to propose with this property. Um, which is fine. Everyone, everyone here is
allowed to have their opinions. I know everyone here. I've lived next to everyone here. I've been a lifelong resident of Eagle Lake. I' I was born in 1978. I've lived here my whole life. Okay. The house in the corner I grew up in. The house on Second Street, I've built. Okay.
My grandpa owned that property long before any of these houses were there. This was all zoned agricultural. He sold this land to developer and zoned this B1 so we could make a profit off that that land. Um I've seen comments
like It's going to affect people's livelihood. Well, literally by trying to block what I want to do with this, it it literally is affecting my livelihood. You know, um it's zone B1. I'm not going to reszone
it to R1. Uh I have a a major investment into this property, buying it after my grandpa died, buying it from my dad, you know, removing the house, removing the garage, removing dozens and dozens of trees. Um, I have a lot of money in this
property. Another comment was, well, he could buy land somewhere else. He's using this because it's cheaper, which absolutely is not true. I could I could have bought land anywhere else for way cheaper than what I have into this land. Um, you know, I proposed twin homes
several years ago that got shot down, too. We needed variance for it. The neighbors didn't want that. Um, so, so what I'm learning here is that, you know, they would prefer to just have it empty than me do anything on it. Um,
after the after the Twin Homes got shot down, I actually offered it to Hammonds and to the Johnson's to buy it. That also was declined by both of them. So, I I I've tried to do other things with this property. Um, no one wants to buy
it. No one wants me to do anything on it. Um, and I'm just stuck with a major investment right now that, you know, I'm trying to do something with. So, anyways, that's all I have to say. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Justin. >> Jason Haymon, 317 South Second Street. Just a comment to that. Yeah, he put an offer in for us to buy the property for $160,000 arrested at that. [Applause]
Are there any other public comments? Any other public comments? Going once. Going twice. All right. If there's no other public comments, then we'll close the public hearing. So, show that's at 7:14 uh for discussion among commission members. All right. So, I'll open it up and just
say that, you know, for the planning commission, uh, this is what we consider. This is chapter six of our zoning code in your city. Um, so we have to play by these rules. What this says, what we do is we make a recommendation to the city council. The city council at the next meeting, they will uh they're
the ones that officially vote on um what happens. So, we make a recommendation based on this. So, our discussion will be focused on what's included uh in this document. Um there's certain things we won't discuss. Um that was brought up, but uh this is where this is where we're
going to uh have our discussion. >> Tom, go ahead. >> Oh yes, absolutely. Planning Commission members, when you uh if you have a comment that you'd like to make, just please push the button on your microphone so that that turns that on and then that'll be able to be heard
by the uh people online. >> Is this the correct slide? I'll make it larger. Is it uh for Yeah, I think this is the one you're talking about. I'll make it larger. >> Oh, I apologize. One moment. All right. Right. So, I have a question for uh for the Justin's. Uh at our last
meeting, which was uh September 16th, we had discussed some screening uh for the home that's at 100 Linda Drive in their backyard. I know we had discussed potentially having some arbivites or something there. Were you able to do anything with that screening? >> It's on the plan.
>> It's on the plan. for one of the Justinins. Um, what would you do about dumpster placement on the premises? >> Perhaps. Can I interrupt? Would it be possible to have the Justins come up to the podium um and speak in the microphone? just cuz I know we've got people at home watching. Thank you.
And also I want to mention if anybody wants any water, we've got more in the our kitchenet area. Just help yourself. I know it's going to be a long meeting. >> Oh yes, I can. >> Justin, my question was about what you plan to do about dumpster placement on the property. There'll be just one
container and it'll get dumped, you know, multiple times per week. I just want to get the site plan up and I could show you um on there where it go >> so along agency that green spot right there could be one location. Uh going over on Second Street where it's marked
in green there by the parking lot, that could be a second location. um right by the Hammond's home that corner in the green space there could be a third location uh Linda Drive you know it's it's a small small container so it can fit even in the the Linda drive corner right there so there's there's multiple
places where could go >> would those be would those be in enclosures >> yes that's correct >> okay >> could you speak to the screening again on for 100 Linda Drive you'd mentioned there'd be some See, but you have to zoom in by that red line.
>> And this is on the north side of the building. Is that Are we talking about the same spot? >> So, where Hammond's home is, there's the red line and then there's those little tiny dots that represents um the the arbor vites along there. And it it does follow the red line uh going in an
easterly direction and up to the north. So, the arbor bodies are the little black dots are tough to see on there, but they're just south of the red line along Hammond's property line, and then they also go to the north there, but it's tough to see on the plan. >> So, I think we've have some, you know,
again, this is just a concept plan, but right now it's I see the little black dots along your uh westerly border right there. But we we could certainly, you know, put some along the the other border, too. This is I have no problem with that. >> Just so we're clear, please direct
comments to the planning commission, not to the applicant. >> Yeah. I mean, we're we're willing to work with people and put up screening. That's that's not a problem. They could do fencing if if they prefer. I mean, or or natural arborites.
>> A question about the two buildings. Um will they be identical to each other? And then if you would briefly describe the heights, length, width of the buildings. >> Yeah, the the same buildings I've done before in town. They're the same same buildings I've done before in town.
They're three stories tall. Uh they are 42 by 70, I believe, are the actual dimensions. >> Three stories tall. So >> three stories tall. >> And how high? >> So to the to the top of the sill plate or the top of the roof? Would you like
to have the roof? I think is approximately 36 feet I believe. >> I think that's correct. Yes. >> Believe it's 45 in in code. Um I'd have to double check. Let's see. >> 45. Okay. Thank you.
>> I believe it's 42 and 70. 42 by 70. Correct. So, I think if there's questions, just because there's people at home watching, people are going to have to raise their hand, be recognized, and come up to the podium and and ask. >> And just so we're clear, the public um
comment section period time is closed. And so, if you do have questions, it really should be directed to the commission. And so, we need you to raise your hand. That'll allow us to repeat the question uh for the folks at home and we can consider it. Sarah, >> that microphone is it's you have to get
right up to it. I'm sorry. It just Okay. >> It's very um it doesn't pick up sound. >> So, what was discussed? I think we talked about the building being 42 by 70. It's three stories tall. The maximum height allowed by code is 45 ft and it
was underneath that. Is that correct? >> That's correct. minimum right now. >> So, >> so the sideyard set back by code is 8 feet unless the building is over 25 ft. So then what they do they take a
different measurement from the mean from the top of the sidewall to the peak of the roof and I think that is like uh 32 feet I think is your your mean height. And then what they do is they take uh the calculations in the in the R4 code
they everything over uh 25 feet tall then that adds an additional one foot I believe of eight. So so that corner of the north building that you see on the photo or that concept is I think approximately 17 foot for the for the
side that sideyard set back there. >> Can I interrupt? I have another idea. We're working on trying to get the microphone volume. Justin, would you mind sitting here at the table? That microphone will work much better and then everybody will be able to hear you. Thank you. I'm sorry to interrupt. >> I can stand.
>> It's okay. Justin, do you know what percentage of the lot if we're including the parking lot and the building? Do you know what percentage is proposed to be covered? I I don't off top of my head. I would have to refer to Bolton and Mink and have
that calculated by the computer. There is some percentage of lot if you scroll to the right of this photo and then down. Uh there are there is some information on there that they've included. Okay, back to screening. So, the build
for a while, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. They they definitely would not cover the tops of the roofs or anything like that, but you know, their windows on their home, for example, are probably a you know, on this if it's a two-story home, you know, they're going to be under 20 ft tall. And
so, thank you. >> Is there any play area, any designated play area space for children? >> Like I said, this is just a concept plan right now. I mean, if that's something that we need to look into, we could, but I think we're close enough to or, you know, multif family is to other parks in
town. So, I think utilizing the city park is probably the best best options here. >> Jennifer, you stated that this would all be privately funded, so no tax increment financing. >> Nope. the developers have not requested any um financial incentive um for the
development and the city would not have any to offer um even if there had been a request. So to circle back to the question about coverage area on the uh bottom right hand side of that
drawing which isn't up on the screen right now uh it does show structure coverage at 13.4% 4% uh does not include any parking area in that figure. So I just wanted to clarify that [Applause]
>> uh question uh again if question if you could come up uh since this microphone's available if you could come up and ask the question please. So, it was um discussed earlier about the potential for a study for sidewalks. Um and it said that no other funding
would be part of that, but that would be taxpayer dollar funded if this were to increase the need for a sidewalk. Correct. Or >> um so I was a little confused on that question about the sidewalk study. There is no sidewalk study plan. We had done a pedestrian connect connectivity study
for um south on agency street to connect like across from Thomas over to agency and then over off to um the Eagle Heights subdivision. >> So this would not potentially increase >> No.
>> No. No. >> Mark, do you have a question? Yeah, you guys all my life I got a bicycle and I watch my niece and nephew baseball. So why can't the kids or parents write them down
in school? I grew up in this. >> So the comment for everyone including online was uh Mark grew up in this town. Uh he was able to ride his bike on the streets and walk on the streets. Uh why do we need sidewalks essentially? Is that correct? >> Yeah. There was no street, no sidewalks,
no just the down side street. >> All right. Thank you, Mark. Are there any other comments or questions from commissioners? >> Are there any other buildings of the same height in that area?
>> May maybe the ones down at um Connie and um agency. I can't think. Are they? I just can't think of them. >> I have to research that. >> That's a great question. I don't have the answer.
>> Sorry, my microphone was off this evening, but I could look into it. >> Justin, if if I could, what other I know that a lot of money's been put into this already. What other options were considered for developing the lot the lot?
I I wouldn't >> uh so we had looked into twin homes several years back >> we ran into various issues with it >> there was a lot of >> kickback from the neighbors on those also
>> okay have you considered offering the property for sale to a business curious you I mean, I' I've been looking >> city by it. >> Well, what I'm I'm wondering about is B1 has a lot of allowed options.
>> It does. >> One of the one of the worst of which I think and I'm sure the neighbor would would object to is a filling station. >> I mean, I know what your your grandfather ranted for, and I have to believe there's probably some environmental damage from that or
potentially. Sorry, that's it. Any other comments or questions from commissioners? >> I'm just curious if the residents that currently are in this neighborhood would be more amenable to
twin homes. Now, >> we don't know what kind of family will be there yet. All right. For discussion, um Aaron, go ahead. >> So, we have heard a lot of different
concerns. Some may or may not be able to be mitigated through different avenues, but for us as a planning commission, something that I'm concerned with is whether or not the request is premature, meaning it doesn't
match the city's land use plan and would the applicant need to go through a comp plan amendment before they come back for resoning. that I guess that would be my main question like procedurally for us is that a problem if we move forward and it
doesn't speak to the comprehensive plan. >> I guess I share your concern that what we're looking at regardless of the I don't know how it it doesn't it doesn't match the comp plan. And so that's the biggest challenge that that we kind of look at is that it should be
a conforming one that from a defensible standpoint from the city if it was to change. I mean this is going to be a perennial challenge because it's spot-zoned non-compatible with the surrounding area. And so when something comes before it, if it's not going to be similar to what's shown in the comp
plan, we're always going to be going through this conversation. And I think maybe part of it too is it feels a little bit like this public hearing was mostly a neighborhood meeting between the proposer and the neighborhood. And I would always encourage developers proposers to meet with the neighborhood
prior to coming to a board like this to have that discussion. But from a planet strict planning commission standpoint, I don't think it's a a compatible request based on what our comprehensive land use plan shows. And so we'd either need to see it changed that way or a more
conforming um one that's a little bit more defensible from the city to just not perpetuate incompatible spot zoning in this location. Jan, do you have any other comments or questions? One thing I would like to say is this
really shows community involvement. It might not be a easy thing to go through, but it's great. And it's also showing me that the renters that we're getting in have been overall very good. I happen to know three new renters that uh have
moved in within the last month. Hopefully, they will stay and become even more part of our community, which which is great because that helps out our fire department. It helps out our whole neighborhood when people are
active and involved like all of you are. So, this has been good. Regardless of how it turns out, you've been able to say what you wanted to say, and I'm I'm surprised you you guys have read this stuff through and through. It's good.
>> That's it. Tom, did you have any comments? >> I just thank everybody for coming out tonight. This is important and and I can assure you we're listening. Thank you.
>> Ray, do you have any comments? >> My only real comment is this is not the final word. We're just the planning and zoning commission. We make recommendations. the city council will ultimately decide. >> All right, comments and questions for me. I just have two real quick ones. Uh,
one, I do have concern. I know we discussed it very early on. I think Deb, you brought it up talking about maximum ground coverage. Uh, I know the intent was for R1 not to be included. I believe it still is. Uh and so on page 50 of
chapter 6, uh that would be subdivision 4E does talk about maximum ground coverage at 35%. I know the buildings only are at 13.4, but when we look at hard surfaces, if we're still including those, and we'd have to double check that, uh it's certainly much
higher than 35%. So, we'd want to make sure that we're not going to uh make any recommendations that would require a variance. So, I'd want to make sure that is taken care of. And two, I know there was some concern about safety. Um, just as the data points, uh, I'm also on the
fire department. So, I took a look at our call volume, uh, and if there's any safety concerns with any of the departments that have been recently built, uh, within the city over, uh, the last year or so, uh, and it's just not there. Uh, we just don't see it when we look at our call uh, volume. Uh, if
there just isn't a higher call volume, uh, to these apartment buildings. Richard, >> nothing at this time. >> Michael, was there anything else to add? >> Nothing more. Thank you. >> All right. So, if that's all the
comments uh and concerns from the planning commission, we'll entertain a motion for recommendation to the city council. >> I'll move deny all the requests for reszone. >> We have a motion uh to deny from Michael. Is there a second? Do you need
findings with that, Jennifer, or >> Okay. The I guess my finding that I put is it's incompatible with our current land use plan and it perpetuates um incompatible use spot zone. We have a motion for Michael. Is there a
second? >> I'll second. >> Second from Aaron. Is there any further discussion? All right. All those in favor say I. >> To deny reszone the request for reszone from R4 from B1 to R4
based on the findings that it's a spot incompatible spot zone which perpetuates a incompatible spot zone with respect to the um comprehensive land use plan for the city of Eagle Lake. So motion's on the table for Michael,
seconded by Aaron. Is there any other comments or questions? Hearing none. We'll take a vote. All in favor say I. >> I. Any opposed? >> I. >> All right. Motion carries. That's that's the recommendation to the city council.
So the city council, they're the ones that they're going to make the ultimate decision on this. Uh that meeting is >> November 3rd at six o'clock pm. >> November 3rd at six o'clock pm. So if you have any questions, anything that you felt that wasn't addressed or talked about this evening, encourage you to talk to your council. They're the ones
that are going to make the final vote. Okay. All right. Moving on. Then our next item on the agenda is other business. Uh we have annexation petition received uh for parcel R43091230001. Jennifer. >> Yes. I'm just going to pull up my um
different screen here. All right. So, I'm just going to pull up the beacon here. Um, after the um the packet was put together, but not sent out yet, I received an email from um somebody that put an offer on a parcel that's currently in Mano Township. Um
it's and I'll pull it up on the map here. Um just one moment here. Bear with me. Make this a little bit bigger here so you can see it. Um, so this parcel I received a request um, like I said after the deadline for inclusion in the
packet, but it's a parcel that's located along Highway 14 and it's near the storage units. Um, the Yes, there was recently a fire. Um, and so there was an offer made and um, I had met with the
uh, I believe I don't know 100% if it's the owner. >> Um, what's that? North. >> Yes. Yes. North side of 14. Yep. Um so the the storage units were enexed into city limits. Um there's no utilities
provided out there. I did meet with a um interested party and shared that we have no ability to extend utilities at this time. If at some point in the future um if this were to be a next in and utilities would be, you know, expanded out that way, they'd have to connect.
But um just in no certain terms there's no um the city would not be able to extend utilities. So um the person uh needed to be anex needs to be an exend to city limits due to the um county ordinance and not be able to do
anything or county ordinance excuse me not be able to redevelop the property um and it triggers contacting the city to be an next in. So I haven't had a chance to do any further research. I just wanted to bring it to your attention, let you know that I received it Friday
afternoon. Um, and I just wanted to let you know, >> no, >> no action required at this time. No, I just wanted to I didn't feel comfortable sitting on it, but yet it it was received after the deadline to be included with the packet. So, >> all right. Thanks for the update. We
look forward to that and hopefully they can clean that property up. Uh, other business number two, recap of orderly annexation agreement meeting between Mano Township and Next Steps. So, Mayor Whittington and I recently met uh with Dan Rochedel uh hopefully I said that right with Mano Township and we talked
to him about um the need to sit down and get an orderly annexation agreement in place. Uh right now the Mano City of Mano Mano Township have an agreement and it says in that agreement um that there's certain sections um and if
someone wants to redevelop those it kind of they may be an accent to the city of Eagle Lake. We want to make sure they are a nex into the city of Eagle Lake. So, uh, very good meeting with Mano Township and as we can see as we head towards Mano and that gap is getting closer. We just want to make sure that
we're protecting the city's rights and it's always been kind of understood that that the road and I'm going to forget the name of the road. >> 86. >> Thank you. 86. Um, that's kind of where the cut off point would be and we just want to get that in writing. So, um, very agreeable. He said, "Put together
an agreement. We'll work with the city attorney and then work with the township and try to get something put in place. Um and then uh next update um I did submit a grant application. Interestingly enough, the timing of this
as we're talking about our land use plan um submitted a grant to Southern Minnesota Initiative Foundation um for funding to update our land use plan. Um it is it is outdated. It needs to be updated. We're a growing community, so hopefully we'll get some funding.
Unfortunately, these studies aren't cheap and you do need to hire a consultant, someone that specialize in this area. So, uh, we'll keep you posted on that. And the other item I have is just our monthly building and zoning permit activity. >> Tom, do you have a question?
>> Yeah. Do we have an annexation strategy? Is it is it down somewhere as far as our future growth? >> No. Township or whatever. >> Oh gosh. No. No. And that's where we would that's why we need to have an agreement in place because we when we
dealt with the motorsports park project and the issues we had with Laorray Township um that that's just perfect example. But not all townships are willing to sit down and work on an agreement. I I don't know that Laray Township would be willing to come to the table with us and and do an early annexation agreement. If they would,
that's great. But we're hoping Manito Township is is willing to do that. >> One question remains. Why don't we have one a strategy for annexation? We're talking about growing the town, growing the city, having places to build. Why wouldn't we have a a strategy moving
forward? Well, I think your comp plan kind of speaks to that a little bit because a lot of that may or may not be inside your city limits, but it's up to the township to want to participate in having something that if you come and more or less want to do anything except that would be zoned by the county in
their agricultural district that it automatically ch triggers annexation to the adjacent city. Mano Township is one that's good to work with. They get a lot of pressure from our neighbor to the west. Laria Township just in my experience being here through various
parts of this community is not amidable to having conversations and working with us to be successful on a lot of things. So that's my opinion of the township. Not trying to upset the apple cart but um it just I think the comp plan shows
us how we're going to go and and to to extent being part of MAPO builds out your transportation corridors which drives some of that as well. So you're looking at utilities kind of through a comp plan. Maple helps do the heavy lift on a lot of our major roadways. So then alls we have to figure out is
subdivision rules and and stuff and your your local roads come through that. But the the ability to have a strategy, you have to have your partner in the township wanting to be able to do that. And different townships are have different
outlooks on how they see that. Some see it as an opportunity or we don't want to administer anything but what townships generally are designed to which is I'll say agricultural production. Um and some don't want to give up anything and want to kind of fight the loss to the city on
everything. Um where I work now there's 12 different townships and 12 different opinions on how to approach that type of stuff. So >> does that answer your question? mostly elder colonies and I it's great information thank you but we say someone
doesn't want to have a conversation but the strategies what do we have to do to get that get that moving forward what what do we have to do to entertain uh a likelihood of having a conversation and are there other opportunities and that's what I'm saying as far as the strategy I
I I accept what you're saying I just >> as part of that >> not be more aggressive >> yeah and as part of that maybe the planning commission has to have a representative through this, you know, a standing because they'll have some sort of standing meeting when they do this comprehensive plan that we have to appoint one of us to make sure they're
attending and then they can report it back and maybe face it from this this direction as well. So, but a lot of that engagement strategy is going to be fleshed out by whoever they have do it as well. Thank you. >> All right. Looks like that brings us to
uh the zoning and building permit activity. >> Let me know if you have any questions. Otherwise, it's just our standard monthly. Um >> so, yeah, really happy to see that there's two new homes on there. That was exciting to see. So,
>> you know, that has picked up recently. Um, and when I sent out an email because I had had some questions about um that we don't have single family housing, I looked back the last four years, we had over 40 single family homes, and I think that's really good. And yes, we have much more multif family, but I thought
that's still a good sign. And >> Fox 2 phase phase two, yeah, is going to be online and that's going to add a lot of lots available, right? >> Absolutely. >> All right. So that brings us to our final item which is adjournment unless
there's anything else we want to discuss tonight. >> Perhaps uh if I could add one other thing. I did talk to um Smi today and southern Minnesota inspection and um they did um indicate because I had um I
know Commissioner Barner had asked me why that wasn't on the agenda because we had talked about the last meeting with everything going on with this um there wasn't staff capacity to focus on that. So I reached out to them and they said that it's not in their immediate future right now, but I said we still need to review that sign ors and be ready so
we're not reactive um for the next request that comes in. So we're still going to keep working on it. Next month we'll we'll revisit it and um go from there. So >> all right. So with that we'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> So moved. >> Moved by Ray.
>> Second by Richard. All in favor? >> Any opposed? Motion carries. Thanks everyone. Thank you. >> Thank you for being here. I appreciate it. It's good to see the [Music] >> Oops.
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