WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 2 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=TTCem9pfhZY Video-2: youtube.com/watch?v=ILLsFFmSnis NOTE MEETING SECTIONS: Part 1 (Video ID: TTCem9pfhZY): - 00:00:00: Opening Remarks and Introduction to Election Law Updates - 00:00:19: Legislative Changes: Candidate Address Privacy & Finance - 00:02:30: Election Canvassing Date Flexibility and Scheduling - 00:05:32: Absentee Voting Changes: Envelope vs. Direct Balloting - 00:09:09: Considering Switching to 18-Day Early Voting Period - 00:12:14: Potential Cost Implications of Voting Changes, Other City Concerns - 00:16:45: 18 Day Voting Staffing Questions - 00:17:51: Election Judge Issues - Liability Questions - 00:20:39: Council Support for 18 Day Voting - 00:21:43: Plans to Notify Residents of Voting Change - 00:22:34: Official Action, Newsletter, and Adjournment of Election Discussion - 00:23:14: Nexus Update: Conditional Use Permit and License - 00:25:11: Nexus Taxable Status Explained - 00:27:27: Nexus Conduit Bond, Calls to City, Budget Impact - 00:30:09: Nexus Investigation Rumors, Staffing, Allegations of Abuse - 00:32:07: Nexus Kids Placement and 3rd Operator for Facility - 00:33:08: Adjournment of Meeting Part 2 (Video ID: ILLsFFmSnis): - 00:00:07: Council Meeting: Pledge of Allegiance and Agenda Adoption - 00:00:42: Sheriff's Office Report: April Call Statistics, Notable Incidents - 00:03:04: Fire Chief's Report: Call Statistics, Training Grants, Apparatus Updates - 00:07:35: Council Question: Snap Fitness Memberships for Firefighters - 00:09:31: Swearing-In Ceremony: Firefighter David Bailey Promoted to Lieutenant - 00:15:23: Public Hearing: Discussion of Dog Attack Incident, Possible Actions - 00:20:58: Public Comment 1: Berna Campbell on Dog Aggression - 00:25:03: Public Comment 2: Taylor Cook, Victim of Attack, Fears Safety - 00:29:58: Public Comment 3: David Cook, Husband Worried for Family - 00:32:30: Council Discussion: Dog Incident Details, Potentially Dangerous Determination - 00:37:55: Council Deliberation: Brutus Determination, Owner Restrictions - 00:45:34: Council Adresses Daisy and Dog Ownership Restrictions - 00:54:22: Consent Agenda Approval and Nexus Building Updates - 00:57:24: Discussion on Delivery of Paperwork Regarding Potentially Dangerous Dog - 00:58:32: Council Member Reports and Adjournment Part: 1 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:19.600 --------- Okay. At this time, we'll bring the May 27th, 2026 council work meeting to order. Um, item one. >> Hi. Um so item one recently with uh the 2 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:36.000 most recent legislative session closing there were some changes to um election law and the I just kind of wanted to go over some of the ones that are going to affect business here at city hall. Um 3 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:52.960 and there was a couple things that I'll be asking for your guys's opinion on on how to move forward. Um the first item um was essentially an update and a pro uh adding a provision for candidate 4 00:00:52.960 --> 00:01:09.360 uh address privacy for as you guys may remember when you filed for candidacy there's an affidavit that you have to fill out that you sign fills out all your personal information and then I witness it before turning it into the county. 5 00:01:09.360 --> 00:01:24.560 um the addresses, personal addresses on those will now be considered private information. You will fill it in or candidates will fill them in when they're turned into me, but then they that information will 6 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:40.960 be redacted afterwards. Also, as a part of that, um, with the campaign finance information that gets turned in as the election year progresses and, uh, campaigns and candidates spend any of 7 00:01:40.960 --> 00:01:58.399 their campaign finances. If you receive any donations or if anyone receives donations from other parties, in the past, you've had to list their addresses. Now, those addresses will also be considered private information. 8 00:01:58.399 --> 00:02:14.959 It'll have to be added to the form when it's turned in, but after that, it will be redacted. Campaign finance forms are public information, and we do have to post them on the website. However, with this change, we had seven business days to remove them from the website. Um, 9 00:02:14.959 --> 00:02:30.959 staff and I have already done that. uh we now have six months to backtrack, redact those and get those readded. Um but in case you get any questions about that from people coming up in this 10 00:02:30.959 --> 00:02:48.200 election year, the information has to be provided on the forms, but it will not be made public. >> That's any amount. So >> what's that? >> That's any amount >> that I believe the amount threshold is $100. 11 00:02:48.480 --> 00:03:05.519 I would have to double check that to be absolutely sure, but I think it's a $100 threshold. Um, then there was also the elections technical bill and that had a couple 12 00:03:05.519 --> 00:03:20.959 changes that may affect how we do things here. Um, the first one is an extension to canvasing dates. So once the election is over and we've got the results, that's when we set up the special meeting, 13 00:03:20.959 --> 00:03:36.879 council as the board reviews uh the results, certifies them. Um in the past, I believe the dates we had 3 to 10 days after the general election. Originally, 14 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:54.640 we had set our canvasing date for uh November 9th, and then just recently, we rescheduled that for November 10th because November 9th, the county wasn't sure if they'd be able to have the results back to us in time. So, we pushed it back to the 10th. We are 15 00:03:54.640 --> 00:04:10.879 currently scheduled for the 10th, and it was a daytime meeting. I don't know if you guys remember that, but we changed it to a daytime meeting at 10:00 a.m. Well, now with the changes in legislature, we have until the 17th. 16 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:29.440 So, if the 10:00 a.m. meeting is going to be difficult for anybody, we can switch that again. We have until Tuesday, two weeks after the general election to canvas those results. Um, so that option is out there 17 00:04:29.440 --> 00:04:44.479 if a 10:00 a.m. meeting during the day is going to be a trouble for anybody. >> I think classically we've always just had it right before council meeting. >> Yeah. And the regular council meeting is scheduled for the 9th, which was our original date, but then because the 18 00:04:44.479 --> 00:05:01.840 county wouldn't get those out to us. Um, so the other possibility is if we have an EDA meeting on I believe the 16th, we could schedule that for the same evening. If you wanted to change the date again, otherwise, you know, it's completely up 19 00:05:01.840 --> 00:05:16.479 to you guys. >> So, we could kind of play it by ear until then. >> We certainly can. And I mean, just like any other meeting, we just have to if you guys want to change the the date or the time, I would have to have it posted 20 00:05:16.479 --> 00:05:32.080 three days in advance. So, we've got time to take a look at that. But, I just wanted to throw that out there in case it was a scheduling pro problem for anybody. Um, lastly was changes that 21 00:05:32.080 --> 00:05:49.280 they made to absentee voting. Um, in the past we here at city hall have administered two different kinds of absentee voting. Prior to an election, absentee voting 22 00:05:49.280 --> 00:06:06.319 opens 46 days before the election. Um, and we usually start out with what they call the envelope process. So, if a voter comes in six weeks prior to the election, they will come in, they will fill out their ballot. Their ballot gets 23 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:23.199 tucked into a secrecy envelope, which then gets sealed, stuffed inside a signature envelope. They have to sign it. They have to have a witness, and we check it in and out almost like a library book. There's a chain of 24 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:40.560 custody. those get provided to the county and on election day those will all get opened up and tallied at the same time as everything else. Um recently there has been more people starting with 25 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:57.440 uh what we c we used to call it direct balloting now they're calling it early voting. They're changing the terms on us. So the 46 days leading up to the election, everybody's been doing the envelopes. The last 18 days of those 46, 26 00:06:57.440 --> 00:07:11.840 instead of stuffing it into an envelope, you can fill out your ballot and feed it directly into the ballot counter machine. We would have one open here. That's how we've done it for the last several years. Um, 27 00:07:11.840 --> 00:07:29.840 we have had a significant turnout for that direct balloting or that early voting portion. The more people find out about it, um, I have a couple statistics here. 28 00:07:29.840 --> 00:07:47.680 So, in 2018, gr granted that was not a presidential election, so there's always a lower turnout in midterm elections. Um, but in 2018, we had 5.3% of the city voters 29 00:07:47.680 --> 00:08:04.080 show up at city hall and staff had to process those absentee votes. In 2020, granted that was during COVID, that doubled. We had almost 12% of the city's voters show up at city hall and we had 30 00:08:04.080 --> 00:08:19.840 to process those. The staff had to process those in addition to getting all our regular duties done. 2022 because that was another midterm dropped back down to about 6%. 31 00:08:19.840 --> 00:08:35.039 2024 though, the last election that we had, we processed almost a quarter of the city's votes here at city hall. We processed 2577 absentee votes here at city hall in addition to getting our regular uh 32 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:51.680 duties done. This is not showing any signs of going backwards. Um people are making use of the fact that they can come in any time during that 18-day period and they don't have to wait in line as long as they 33 00:08:51.680 --> 00:09:09.279 would on election day. Um, again, like I said, it's not showing any signs of those numbers going backwards. Granted, this is not going to be a presidential year, so being a midterms, we will have a lower turnout again. Um, 34 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:26.080 however, I don't anticipate it dropping back to previously seen numbers. Um, the option that we were given with this elections technical bill is cities can 35 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:43.120 now choose if they want to be open for the 40 the full 46 days and do the first portion as the envelope portion and then the last 18 days as absentee. or we have the option of getting rid of 36 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:59.360 the envelopes entirely and we just do the last 18 days of direct balloting feeding it into the machine. I think you can kind of tell my preference, but um we do 37 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:16.079 if if that is something that the city would be interested in, we do have to let um the county elections director know so that they can prep and have uh envelope ballots during that 46 day period 38 00:10:16.079 --> 00:10:33.519 open at the county so that they can have an extra stock there to handle the people that would have usually come in here during that early on 46 day period. Um, if 39 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:49.519 we were to switch to that 18-day uh early voting period only and not process the envelopes here at city hall, um there is a significant chance that if 40 00:10:49.519 --> 00:11:06.160 other cities do that as well, uh the county elections office will want to rework their JPA because that will add extra work onto their office because they will be processing what usually gets dispersed amongst the rest of the count u municipal offices. 41 00:11:06.160 --> 00:11:23.760 They will probably want to rework the GPA and we may have an increase in costs as far as paying our portion for those being processed. Um however we will I can't say it for sure because 42 00:11:23.760 --> 00:11:39.760 we haven't gone there yet. Um, every year we get access to what is called the voter funds. The VO t it stands for voting operations technology and uh election resources. 43 00:11:39.760 --> 00:11:56.800 Those are state funds that are disseminated to counties and then further down into municipalities every single year. we would be potentially allowed to use some of those funds to offset if they updated the JPA to 44 00:11:56.800 --> 00:12:14.240 include those costs. >> What kind of cost would these be? >> Um, it would be if they had to hire additional staff to handle the influx of envelope absentee voters at their site. >> Dollar amount. They don't have any 45 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:34.880 dollar amounts yet because we don't know who all how many cities are going to be interested in it and what kind of numbers they're going to be looking at. >> Is there any indication of where other cities are looking to go? >> Um, I have not heard from any other 46 00:12:34.880 --> 00:12:51.279 clerks yet that have talked about it with their councils yet. I jumped on this right away because we just got the information last week. Um, so I wanted to get it in front of you guys so if there is interest I could let the county elections director know um so that we 47 00:12:51.279 --> 00:13:07.920 can get the ball rolling and because I believe we have until June 12th to confirm it with the county. >> How long so how long have we had the uh 46 day option? Is that 48 00:13:07.920 --> 00:13:26.000 >> 46 day option has been around Sorry. Um I believe at least since 2014. >> So if we discontinued it, we would have potentially do some sort of education to 49 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:42.240 >> Right. And that is something >> by residents that rely on that. >> Correct. Um, that is something that the elections director let us know is that we would have to develop a plan of some sort to inform our voters of what the change would be for our municipality. 50 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:58.000 And because it's going to be up to each municipality individually, it will be different from city to city. Um, part of why I have the feelings that I 51 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:16.079 do about it in 2025, part of the changes that went through uh, election law, um, there was a requirement, let me backtrack, as part of processing absentee voting and the check in and the 52 00:14:16.079 --> 00:14:32.160 checkout and make sure that each B uh, voter gets only one ballot. We have something called a ballot board that meets at the end of every day and we make sure that the number of people that requested a ballot are the number of ballots that we got turned in that we 53 00:14:32.160 --> 00:14:48.959 have in hand. And if it doesn't match, we have a re, you know, that there is a specific reason why, like somebody decided that they didn't want to vote here on site and they wanted to take it with them and they'll turn it in later or something like that. But we have a ballot board that we do every at the end 54 00:14:48.959 --> 00:15:04.079 of every day that we have absentee voting. It used to be that we could process that ballot board just amongst staff. I deputize other staff that goes through 55 00:15:04.079 --> 00:15:20.160 election admin training so that we can we are by state statute authorized to be serve as that ballot board. With changes that went through in 2025, there are certain confirmations that 56 00:15:20.160 --> 00:15:35.680 staff are no longer allowed to do by themselves because you have to be a party declared judge in order to clarify certain discrepancies. Um, if somebody turns in their envelope with their 57 00:15:35.680 --> 00:15:52.160 signature and there's certain data that we have to match, if their data doesn't match, say on their application form they put in their the last form of their social security number, but on their envelope they put in their driver's license number instead, which are both 58 00:15:52.160 --> 00:16:08.240 valid options, but because they don't match, that's a discrepancy. Staff is not allowed to uh clear those. I would have to have judges on call for that entire 46 day 59 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:27.360 period. So in case a discrepancy came up, they would have to be able to come in and clear that discrepancy for me because they're party declared. Having two opposing judges on call for 46 days 60 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:45.519 is not going to be an easy thing to do. It's possible, but it's not going to be an easy thing to do. Um, but that is one of the concerns that I have and why I'd be like, "Hey, you guys can do the envelopes. We'll handle the rest." 61 00:16:45.519 --> 00:17:00.959 So if we do consider this 18 days and we get it out to residents and they'll realize this, don't you think that's going to cause just as much influx on our staff because the people are going to come at the floodgate? 62 00:17:00.959 --> 00:17:18.319 >> The it's it is entirely possible. um the number of people that do absentee voting. I I got some numbers here. So, in at the last election in 2024, 63 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:36.240 um like I said, we had 2577 people that voted absentee. of that almost 2600 people, 1,739 of them, so just over 67% came in during 64 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:51.679 those last 18 days. So the lion's share of them are coming in to feed it directly into the machine and are not doing the the envelope process anymore. However, if that is something that you 65 00:17:51.679 --> 00:18:30.240 want to continue to offer to residents, we certainly can. I just have to let the elections director know that. Is it a big process to become a election judge, be qualified to fix something? 66 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:48.720 >> There are um I train our election judges every year. We do have online training, but I also offer in person training for our judges. It's a minimum of two hours of training that's required and um if 67 00:18:48.720 --> 00:19:05.120 the judge declares a party or not depends on what services they're actually allowed to do. So, we do have some election judges that remain unaffiliated and they go through the training and they can help us out, but 68 00:19:05.120 --> 00:19:33.120 they judges that are not declared a party that are unaffiliated are not allowed to handle marked ballots. I do see the 18 benefiting us in one way is that way the liability and all this with the 69 00:19:33.120 --> 00:20:05.600 envelope part of it is at the county not here. You know nobody can point fingers. So, I guess I would I would go with the 18, I guess, just to relieve staff of some of the issues and 70 00:20:05.600 --> 00:20:24.160 uh money the city has to put out for it. Is that 18 days carved in stone? >> 18 days is set by state statute. Yep. >> Is that 18 work days? >> Um, no. >> Okay. because uh we are city staff there 71 00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:39.520 are certain days leading up to the general election we're we're required to be even open on the weekends. >> Okay. >> So >> So I would I would not be opposed to the 18 days. 72 00:20:39.520 --> 00:20:55.520 >> I agree. It makes more sense for a smaller town like ours. It really does. And the lion share is coming in on the 18 days anyway. I'm not opposed to going 18 days. That that's a long stretch to vote. It really is. 73 00:20:55.520 --> 00:21:12.799 >> It what and it I mean obviously it's going to be different from one situation to the next. Um, but with early or absentee voting starting so soon, especially with municipal elections, a 74 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:28.159 lot of times people have voted before they've even had a chance to see a meet the candidates forum or something else, >> right? And then there's the whole process that they have that they want to there's it's called a clawback process that they have to go to the county and 75 00:21:28.159 --> 00:21:43.440 try to get their envelope back because they want to change their mind and it hasn't been opened yet and >> I think the 18 days is good but now how do we notify our residents so they know >> well that's 76 00:21:43.440 --> 00:22:00.000 part of why I wanted to get this out out to you guys right away is if this is something that council decides that they would like to move forward with, we can get that into the next letter. Um, or newsletter, excuse me. We would obviously post that on the website and 77 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:15.840 on our social media channels. Um, I can possibly check and see if even the chamber would be willing to put that in their newsletter as well. >> Yeah, maybe reach out to the Lions as well. >> Correct. 78 00:22:15.840 --> 00:22:34.159 any of the social groups that we know of, >> right? Any organizational groups because I get a lot of overlap from them with my election judges. So, >> yeah, probably churches. >> Yes. >> It looks like we're all in favor of you 79 00:22:34.159 --> 00:22:50.320 moving with the 18. I think the 18 days will be great. >> All right. And then if there is any further um if I need anything official, we will bring it at the next meeting for you guys. >> When do you think the newsletter will come out? >> The right now the newsletter is 80 00:22:50.320 --> 00:23:14.799 scheduled to be mailed out between June 29th and July 3rd. So it'll come out just before the holiday weekend. >> I am accepting submissions for that right now. So >> that was all I had, gentlemen. 81 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:33.919 >> All right. Thank you. Thank you. >> Any other issues? Matt, >> Mr. Mayor and Council, I I think what I'll do is uh give you just an update a little bit on um Nexus. Uh we've um had some media coverage on channel 5 and 82 00:23:33.919 --> 00:23:49.840 >> yeah, you look good out here. >> We with Richard. >> It's a tough it's a tough position for the city. Obviously we're you know being asked what our concerns are and primarily I think our concerns should be 83 00:23:49.840 --> 00:24:06.400 for the children uh that need help. I mean they need help. It's um um we didn't really want to get into whether it was you know how it's working for this community. They did ask us a number of calls. There has been a large 84 00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:22.400 number of calls obviously um and that has a direct impact on the city budget. We've had conversations with Nexus to try and control some of those and it kind of es and flows a little depending on who they hire and who sticks around and who's new and who isn't trained and 85 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:39.039 all that sort of thing. Uh, so there are some of those challenges. Um, but I been in I've been in communication with some of their staff here. Um, and I just wanted to kind of read an email here that stated that essentially we're we're 86 00:24:39.039 --> 00:24:55.039 willing to be as helpful as possible. Uh, that we want to clarify that the conditional use permit that they have requires as part of a condition that their license is intact. Um, as you know, their license right now is suspended 87 00:24:55.039 --> 00:25:11.679 uh and could be revoked. If it's revoked, then the license uh then the cup would have to go through a process for revocation as well. Um, and um so that that's been communicated to them. Um, I did want to check I received an 88 00:25:11.679 --> 00:25:28.080 email today from uh Alex Guggenberger who kind of laid it out a little bit in terms of taxable status. Um he has four different points uh that he has here and I'll just read them. He says uh first if Nexus wins 89 00:25:28.080 --> 00:25:44.720 their appeal and retains their license in calendar year 2026 the property will revert to exempt status for 2026 pay 2027 basically unchanged from prior years. If Nexus loses their appeal and retains ownership 90 00:25:44.720 --> 00:26:00.880 of the building after July 1st 2026. So that's coming up here pretty quick. The property will remain taxable for all of the year 2027. Taxes on this facility is about $65,000. Um, 91 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:18.159 if Nexus loses their appeal and transfers ownership to a nonprofit or a governmental entity or um another agency of some sort before July 1st, 2026, the property could 92 00:26:18.159 --> 00:26:35.600 potentially retain the exemption depending on uh what the planned use is for that facility. And the fourth point is if Nexus loses their appeal and transfers ownership to a nonprofit, governmental entity, church, whatever, um after July 1st, 93 00:26:35.600 --> 00:26:53.200 2027, the property could potentially gain exemption for pay 2028 depending on the use of that facility, which means uh 20 27 would still be in play. So that's 94 00:26:53.200 --> 00:27:09.440 it's a complicated matter and it's coming up on us pretty quickly here. So I don't know. I think right now they pay ask Mike this and and um I think it's two payments of $12,000 five 125 or something like that. that they pay. It's 95 00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:27.360 called a pilot payment in lie of taxes and um and they they paid that uh but you can see it's about a third of what uh normal taxes would be on that facility. Um so this just kind of lays the groundwork a little bit on um 96 00:27:27.360 --> 00:27:43.919 you know everyone sets their budgets and and you know I'll give you for example we purchased 1347 SIMs halfway through the year. So the owner paid the first half the taxes. We paid the second half of the taxes. We couldn't even though it 97 00:27:43.919 --> 00:28:00.799 was a cityowned property. It was already in quue in terms of budgets and everything else and the schools, the city, the county getting their share. Um those taxes had to be paid the next year. Then that'll be tax exempt because it's city owned. 98 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:16.640 Um, so this is kind of the the tricky part of I'm not sure, you know, what they plan on doing with that facility. Uh, they had a, as you recall, we did a um a conduit bond 99 00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:33.600 essentially where Nexus was able to take advantage of our lower interest rates. Um, if they default on that bond, I want to remind everyone that that does not impact our credit rating. we are not responsible for that repayment of that bond. Um it doesn't necessarily look 100 00:28:33.600 --> 00:28:50.240 good, but uh it doesn't impact us negatively. Um it doesn't sound like they uh plan to default on that. They had indicated that they would try and bring other services of some sort to the facility uh or or possibly liquidate the 101 00:28:50.240 --> 00:29:07.520 facility, but um again, we would have to craft a new conditional use permit. And I think given some of the experiences, we'd probably write it pretty tight in terms of costs that might be transferred to the city from calls and things of 102 00:29:07.520 --> 00:29:23.120 that nature or write it in the event of an excess number of calls type of type of language uh to protect the city. We did kind of an estimate. It's around a hundred some thousand dollars that it um that it potentially charges the city for the number of calls that we've got a 103 00:29:23.120 --> 00:29:39.279 year. Um, you know, $100,000 is, as I, as I had stated, a significant amount for a community our size. Um, and, um, while other communities it might be a rounding error for them, I think it's, uh, it 104 00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:54.240 represents a significant amount for us. But, uh, more to come on that. So, we'll we'll keep in contact with them. We'll try and understand um, uh, what the state is doing in terms of their 105 00:29:54.240 --> 00:30:09.760 uh licensing and uh try and brief you council and mayor on um on what changes are happening as as fast as they become available. But the tax the taxing issue is just another little 106 00:30:09.760 --> 00:30:32.640 complication in the matter. So, um, yeah. Questions on that? Has there been anything released yet, a statement? Why? There's a lot of rumors flying around, you know what I mean? And 107 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:54.480 st from staff to too many fights to not enough staff to So when we received the report from uh DHS, it was kind of an alarming report. The um you know, 108 00:30:54.480 --> 00:31:09.760 they're going through the investigations now to determine the accuracy of that report. Uh so we can't say yes, they're they did this or no, they didn't do that. We don't know. Um but uh but there were some claims that uh that there were some things going on there that were not 109 00:31:09.760 --> 00:31:26.480 good. >> Um why uh we can only we can only I guess guess why that might be the case. I know they had some staff turnover. I know um it's a tough environment to work. I I don't know that anyone's you know quite knows what they're getting 110 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:41.120 into in that environment. But um and depending on of course the the kids that come in and you know what their issues might be too kind of changes that on a daily basis. But um we'll find out after that investigation if if those 111 00:31:41.120 --> 00:32:07.760 allegations are true and um and that's I would think that's their process of determining lure to determine that give them due process. stay on top of it. >> Yeah. From what I understand, the kids 112 00:32:07.760 --> 00:32:23.279 that have been removed from the facility are in other facilities or three other facilities um in the state, you might say. And uh they're thankfully being taken care of 113 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:50.159 at that, you know, those other facilities at this point. So, The question would be, you know, Cambia came and went and Nexus came and maybe they stay, maybe they don't. Question would be if this city has an appetite for a third operator of 114 00:32:50.159 --> 00:33:08.880 some sort, but that's another discussion for another day. if something comes forward. But >> all right. Anything else? >> No, that's all we got. >> I guess at this time we'll close the 115 00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:12.519 council work meeting. Part: 2 1 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:23.359 Okay, at this time we'll call to order the uh May 27th, 2026 council regular meeting to order. Please rise if you can for the pledge. >> I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic 2 00:00:23.359 --> 00:00:42.480 for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Make a motion to adopt tonight's agenda. >> Second that. Have a motion, a second to the agenda. All those in favor? >> I 3 00:00:42.480 --> 00:01:08.960 >> I opposed. Unheard. Sheriff's office. Good afternoon or evening I suppose. I am Sergeant Yantos from the sheriff's office. This is my first time ever doing one of these. So I'll tell you what I was going to asked to tell you and then 4 00:01:08.960 --> 00:01:25.759 whatever questions you guys have from there. Ask away. Uh the current month of April you had a total of 406 calls for service. Slightly up from the month before that. Uh but year to date as far as 2025, you're about on par for those uh those same 5 00:01:25.759 --> 00:01:41.360 calls for service hasn't increased a whole lot or we're not seeing any uh grass or drastic change in trends. Couple notable calls uh that we thought you would like to know. On April 11th, uh deputies were called to a report of a 6 00:01:41.360 --> 00:01:58.000 wrongway driver on Highway 65. They stopped that vehicle and after field sobriety tests uh the driver was arrested and his blood alcohol content was a.18. On April 19th, deputies were called to respond to a call of a felony strangulation and a domestic assault. 7 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:15.040 Deputies responded to an open 911 line where dispatchers could hear a lot of yelling and fighting in the background. While in route, deputies learned that the female who lived at the address had a restraining order against a male who they believed was involved. Uh, dispatch did get a hold of the female who asked deputies not show up. Deputies went 8 00:02:15.040 --> 00:02:31.760 anyway and when the woman answered the door, uh, a male who had warrants fled out the side of the house and he was apprehended. Deputies later learned that a second male who was the actual suspect of the felony assault was hiding in a basement and through the use of a canine, that male was apprehended and 9 00:02:31.760 --> 00:02:47.599 arrested for felony assault. um disorderly conduct involving 10 juveniles who were breaking glass and entering staff offices at Nexus. After investigating, four juveniles were charged with thirdderee riot and first-degree damage to property. They 10 00:02:47.599 --> 00:03:04.239 were all arrested and booked into Lino Lakes's juvenile detention facility. That being said, what questions do you gentlemen have that I can answer or try my best to answer? >> Any questions? 11 00:03:04.239 --> 00:03:28.959 Looks like you're safe. >> Perfect. Great job. >> You all enjoy your night. >> Yep. You >> All right, fire chief council. Thanks for having us. Um for the month, uh we had 63 calls. Uh the 12 00:03:28.959 --> 00:03:45.360 top three for medical were breathing difficulty. um unconscious in heart or chest pain. Uh on the fire side, we had five uh motor vehicle crashes that we responded to. Uh three structure fires, all of which were uh mutual aid uh to Ham Lake, 13 00:03:45.360 --> 00:04:02.640 Lynwood, and Ramsey. We also had two small grass fires uh that were contained rather quickly by the crews on scene uh along with the help from the DNR. Um, Captain King, uh, who is also our training officer, is exploring, uh, a 14 00:04:02.640 --> 00:04:18.320 couple of, uh, training grant opportunities. Uh, putting that together and seeing, uh, what's available and, um, what classes we could bring in for either our department and or the region to get people to train together a little 15 00:04:18.320 --> 00:04:36.160 bit. Um, the AFG grants opened last Monday. Uh we're working on putting together uh the information needed to submit one of those grants. Uh they opened suddenly with little warning. So we're working through all 16 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:51.759 that, but uh there'll be more to come on uh what and if we decide to pursue something uh this time or if we wait for the fall. Uh the truck committee met uh with HME uh to start the process of building the 17 00:04:51.759 --> 00:05:08.639 new engine 11. Uh most of the details were figured out. Um this engine doesn't exist within HME's stock trucks. Um this is going to be one of their stock trucks, but it's truly a 18 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:24.080 custom build for us and then they're putting it into their line of revolving trucks. Um, so we're working to optimize storage and functionality. Uh, the committee again met last night um to figure out shelving and organization to 19 00:05:24.080 --> 00:05:40.639 make sure everything that we need to fit on these trucks is going to fit on the new one with its new configuration of a low hose bed while still carrying 1,000 gallons of water. Um, so as we know more on that, again, we'll update uh council. um 20 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:57.520 engine 31. Um yesterday it went out and it got a tailboard um put onto the back of the the truck. Uh so now our our staff is able to actually climb on the back and get the hose down from the truck instead of having to climb up on the ladder and on top of the truck to 21 00:05:57.520 --> 00:06:13.280 get the hose down. Um so this is something that uh station 3 staff had asked for and we were able to make it happen. Um so happy to be able to have done that for them. Uh we have two new applicants uh that have completed both interviews, 22 00:06:13.280 --> 00:06:30.000 both first and second round interviews. Uh and it'll be my recommendation that they continue on to the background process. Um so we'll be moving that forward. Uh the DNR is allowing burning permits to be issued. Um we are still in a 23 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:46.720 moderate fire danger. Uh, so I would just remind everybody that uh if you're going to have a fire, make sure you have the permit, but also make sure you have an extinguish meth extinguish it method and also um you know, give us a call before it gets too far out of hand. Uh, 24 00:06:46.720 --> 00:07:01.280 one of the grass fires that we had that was small was actually from a legal wreck fire, but a ember got out of the the fire and started uh some other grasses on fire. Um and then uh last and certainly not 25 00:07:01.280 --> 00:07:17.360 least um we have five academy members, fire academy members that are graduating on June 9th. Um these five new hires uh which were last August new hires have dedic dedicated about 160 hours of 26 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:34.520 classroom time and countless hours of study and prep work uh to get to this point. I would like to thank them and their families for the big commitment that they've made through this time. With that, I would stand for any questions. 27 00:07:35.440 --> 00:07:50.560 >> I just got one question, Chief. I was looking at the bills and on page 32, the last one, uh, Snap Fitness for $1,800. What's that about? Uh one of our members took the initiative 28 00:07:50.560 --> 00:08:08.160 um and spoke with staff snap fitness. Uh they have supplied five memberships or key tags for all department members to use. Um so with being a member of the department, uh they're able to come grab one of those keys, go to Snap Fitness, 29 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:24.720 workout, return it, and they don't have to pay that that extra membership. So, it's it's one of those benefits that we're able to offer people to uh incentivize them to go work out, be healthy, take care of themselves. Um, and it's also a benefit to for retention 30 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:41.039 um and hopefully for recruitment. >> That's a great idea. I think that's really good. >> Mike How is the one that should be credited with that. He brought it to our attention and did a lot of the leg work on it along with Deputy Chief Uden. >> Yeah. Because the way I understand it, there's not much room at the station to 31 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:56.320 do this. So that's really great that you have a place you can go to. >> Yeah, >> that's super. Tell them thank you. >> It was great of Snap Fitness to work with us too and be able to offer that up to us. >> Yeah, great. Tell that owner thank you as well. >> We will. >> Yeah, that's a that's a huge savings 32 00:08:56.320 --> 00:09:10.959 actually for the entire department can use it. >> Yep. >> Wow. >> You have to be an active member. >> Uh it doesn't transfer to family members or anything like that. Uh but you know we have uh 30 33 33 00:09:10.959 --> 00:09:31.680 33ish members right now. 34 uh two more coming on. I mean yeah >> that's a great >> it's a great benefit. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. >> Um you proceed into your next deal. I'll 34 00:09:31.680 --> 00:09:51.440 just stay. Um well, as with uh what was started a year ago, um we are swearing in and pinning our uh new firefighters or new officers when those appointments come up. 35 00:09:51.440 --> 00:10:09.040 Uh David Bailey is here tonight to be sworn in as a lieutenant um at station one. David Bailey has been a member of the East Bethl Fire Department since 2024. after serving on another Metro Fire Department for many years. Through his 36 00:10:09.040 --> 00:10:24.000 time, he is though his time has been limited, his impact on the department has been large. David has a can do attitude, get it done attitude since he's joined the department, which has been infectious to everyone around 37 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:40.959 him. The ultimate team player, his drive and determination while mastering his craft, as well as problem solving, is rewarding to observe. Mid 2025, David stepped forward becoming a mentor to our new candidates, and he has gone above and beyond in his efforts 38 00:10:40.959 --> 00:10:57.519 to make sure they have a smooth transition to the life on the department. David works full-time at a local refinery on the safety and maintenance squad, which further benefits the department through his expertise in hazmat and specialized rescue training. 39 00:10:57.519 --> 00:11:27.120 David is truly a committed professional and we congratulate him on his well-deserved promotation or uh promo promotion to the rank of lieutenant. All right, good evening everybody. I know we kind of just went through this about a month or two ago, but I'm going to read through it again just so that uh 40 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:43.920 anybody that may have missed it the the last time can understand the significance of our badge and bugles. In the fire service, we carry our history on our callers. Long before the era of digital radios and high decel sirens, the bugle was the primary tool of command. 41 00:11:43.920 --> 00:12:01.279 In the heat and roar of a blaze, a fire officer would use a brass speaking trumpet or a bugle to shout orders that could be heard over the crashing of timber and the hiss of steam. The number of bugles on your badge in your collar today represents the weight of your voice. One bugle for a lieutenant, two 42 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:18.399 for a captain, and more for the chiefs. But this symbol is more than just a rank. It's a reminder that your words carry the power to protect or to peril. To wear the bugles is to accept the responsibility of being the calm voice in the middle of the storm. It signifies 43 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:33.600 that you are the one who directs the line, ensures the safety of your crew, and leads them back home. Lead by example, stay safe, and congratulations to you on your uh congratulations to you on this achievement. 44 00:12:33.600 --> 00:14:07.680 So, at this point, we'd like to invite your family or friends or whoever's here up. We're going to have them install your new badge with your one bugle on it for Lieutenant All right. At this point, the chief is going 45 00:14:07.680 --> 00:15:23.040 to administer the oath of office. I will all respect United States I will faithfully. to me. >> Yeah. >> Thank you for the time. All right, moving forward to 46 00:15:23.040 --> 00:15:50.959 item 4 C real quick. Sorry, Mr. Mayor. >> Okay, Mr. Mayor and Council, we have before you here this evening a request for a hearing relating to a dog attacked in incident that occurred on April 4th, 2026. The In Noa County Sheriff's Office 47 00:15:50.959 --> 00:16:06.480 reported that a black and white American bully mix dog owned by Douglas Jones approached in a threatening manner and bid a domestic dog belonging to David Ko on private property at 24011 Filillmore Street Northeast. uh since the incident 48 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:22.000 was unprovoked off the owner's property and not under control by the owner and a reported and cited by the investigating deputy as a potentially dangerous dog pursuant to chapter 10 of the city code based on the incident report which is attached there. 49 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:37.600 A potentially dangerous dog notice was issued relating to the incident. Um, just by way of definition, a potentially dangerous dog means any dog that when unprovoked inflicts bites on a human or domestic animal on public or private 50 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:54.639 property. When unprovoked chases or approaches a person, including a person on a bicycle, upon street, sidewalks, or any public or private property other than the dog's owner's property, in an apparent attitude of attack, and or has an known propensity, tendency, or disposition to attack 51 00:16:54.639 --> 00:17:10.799 unprovoked, causing injury to otherwise threatening the safe of h safety of humans and domestic animals. Uh the owner of the dog submitted a re written request to appeal uh this decision this evening and um and has that right to do 52 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:27.360 so uh to contest this and but they had not responded to the certified mail notice of a hearing before the city uh before the city council meeting. Um so a couple of uh options that uh council can consider this evening. one, to conduct a 53 00:17:27.360 --> 00:17:43.360 hearing allowing the owner to present reasons why the potentially dangerous dog determination should be removed. Two, if the potentially dangerous dog determination is sustained, identify the action to be taken uh to include uh disposing of the animal or allowing the 54 00:17:43.360 --> 00:17:59.760 owner to keep the animal with restrictions. or three, if the potentially dangerous dog determination is not sustained, making determination the animal is to be released without further action from or by the city council. And um 55 00:17:59.760 --> 00:18:15.600 just kind of going to read through u if you do sustain it with uh um stipulations on the owner. Um, some of the stipulations could be that the owner provide and maintain a proper enclosure, that the owner posts the front and rear 56 00:18:15.600 --> 00:18:32.320 of the premises with clear visible warning signs, that uh that they the standardized tag identifies the dog as potentially dangerous, that the owner provides proof of annually of public liability insurance paid in full in the minimum 57 00:18:32.320 --> 00:18:49.520 amount of $300,000. um that the dog must be muzzled and restrained by a sustainable uh substantial rather uh chain or leash when um outside of the enclosure and uh restrained by someone older than 58 00:18:49.520 --> 00:19:05.360 18 years old. And this uh the dog this potentially dangerous dog uh be registered with the city within 14 days after the dog has been deemed so. that the dog must have a lifetime license and be up to date on rabies vaccinations. 59 00:19:05.360 --> 00:19:21.039 That the owner must allow a compliance officer on the owner's property to to conduct a site inspection within 14 days of determination of potentially dangerous dog by the city council. Uh and um 60 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:37.760 if the owner does not meet these rest requirements or requirements imposed upon them ordered by the council within 14 days of the notice of the animal can be seized. U and um and then finally a registration fee. The 61 00:19:37.760 --> 00:19:54.480 owner of the dog that has been declared potentially dangerous shall pay an annual registration fee to the city of $250 in addition to any regular dog licensing fees which we don't have in a reasonable fee to cover the administrative costs within 14 days of this declaration. So those are the 62 00:19:54.480 --> 00:20:11.120 standard um requirements that we have in our code under sections 10.72. And um so what I would ask is that um you call a hearing and uh if people would like to testify one way or the 63 00:20:11.120 --> 00:20:26.160 other in support or not uh we can take that testimony and then close the hearing make a determination. >> I do have a quick question. If you read these reports, one dated um 64 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:42.240 was it four of 26 and in the notice of potentially dangerous dog form here says the dog's age is around 13 months. Well, in some of the other reports, and 65 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:58.000 this is this dog apparently has multiple ones dating back to 1021. Are we talking about the same dog here? >> This would be a good question for the testifiers. >> We'll discuss that after. We'll let these people in the public hearing talk first. 66 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:22.960 >> Okay. I'm just wondering if we >> So, at this time, I'll open up the public hearing of this and uh for you residents to uh speak, come up here, state your name and address. Okay. Hi, I'm Berna Campbell and my 67 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:37.919 address is 24021 Filillmore Street Northeast. So, I live two houses away. Um, couple things that I have concerns about. Um, we've been having issues with this dog since 21. 68 00:21:37.919 --> 00:21:55.360 It's been ongoing. The dog has bitten people, kids, children on their bikes. Um, tried to attack my son's dog. Um, a little tiny Yorkie. Thank goodness my son had a larger dog that actually diverted it and saved the little dog. 69 00:21:55.360 --> 00:22:11.520 Um, it has approached me angrily, like it will corner me in my house for no reason. I have a covered entryway. It's cornered me in my house. So, with all these issues that we've had going on, instead of fixing the issue that they 70 00:22:11.520 --> 00:22:28.480 have with the one dog, they decided to get another. So, your question is there one dog? No, there's two now. I don't have confidence that their second dog's not going to turn out the same as the first dog. Um, as far as like the enclosures, I don't have confidence in 71 00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:45.520 that either because the dog has broken through the fence. Um, wood. They put uh chicken wire chicken wire up over it to try to hold it in. As far as a sign saying it's a dangerous dog, I don't think that's an option either because 72 00:22:45.520 --> 00:23:00.320 you don't have to go to the property. You would have to go to the property to see it's a dangerous dog to have a sign. That's not going to help anybody. The dog goes off of the property and tries to attack people off the property. So, a sign is not going to help at all. Um, as 73 00:23:00.320 --> 00:23:17.520 far as talking to him, that doesn't either because we've repeatedly asked him keep it contained, doesn't do it. Um, putting a putting a muzzle on the dog, it would be inhumane. They leave it outside in the heat at night, barks non-stop. How is the dog going to drink 74 00:23:17.520 --> 00:23:32.960 water? How is the dog going to you know what I mean? Like it that's not feasible. Um, they have recently started walking the dog, which they're having problems controlling it now. it, you know, like gets aggressive towards people when they're walking it, which I don't think the sun should be out 75 00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:49.039 walking the dog if they can't control it and it's already labeled as a aggressive dog. Why would you be taking it out in the public and walking it and not being able to control it? So, there's like the list of things that you gave in my 76 00:23:49.039 --> 00:24:09.360 opinion, those are not good options. I feel sorry for the dog because I I don't think it's the dog's fault. I think it's the owner's fault. I think that's how they're raised or how they're trained. But that's just my opinion on it. >> All right. Thank you, 77 00:24:09.360 --> 00:24:26.159 >> Mayor. Uh, Miss Gamble, uh, could you do two things? One, could you spell your last name for the record? And also, you indicated there was two dogs, but you talked about one dog. I want to make sure I want to identify those two dogs and make it very clear what dog you were 78 00:24:26.159 --> 00:24:45.919 actually referencing primarily. >> Sure. Um, it is like a a grayish >> they're the same type of dog, but >> Okay. So, we have two dogs, one Brutus and one Daisy. >> Yep. >> And the one that you've been talking about primarily has been the one that 79 00:24:45.919 --> 00:25:03.440 they've had for a long period of time. a blackish gray white color. Yeah. >> And and you spell your last name. How? >> It's Campbell. C A M P B E L L. >> Great. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to get the record a little straight. 80 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:19.600 >> Hello, council. I'm Taylor Cook and we and my husband, David Cook, last name is K O and we live on the 24011 Filillmore Street Northeast. Um, and I did give 81 00:25:19.600 --> 00:25:35.679 Matt look I gave you I remember I gave you pictures of how their fence looks, how you can So I don't know if he can give you guys copies of that too about how that dog can um escape from their fence. is like a lattice type of fence 82 00:25:35.679 --> 00:25:52.320 on our side and then it's regular wood fence like on the other part and there's bunch of patches of them trying to patch the holes and my husband said just I think it was Saturday he just saw the dog trying to like make another hole or 83 00:25:52.320 --> 00:26:09.279 rip off some more boards again and we have three young kids. Our oldest is 7 and a half, our middle is 5 and 1/2, and our youngest is 2 and 1/2. And they were all outside on the incident on that April 4th one. We were all outside in 84 00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:25.919 the front yard. My husband was cutting wood, splitting wood for our wood stove. And then my oldest son, he was rollerblading with his hockey stick and stuff. And my mom, she was the one who made the call to the sheriff because her 85 00:26:25.919 --> 00:26:42.000 and I just got back from shopping. And then um she was just dropping me off and my other two came out to say hi to grandma and stuff. And they then all a suen that's when the dog just came over. And this one is the brute is Brutus. 86 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:58.240 He's the one who came and attacked and stuff. Our came and attacked our dog on our property. And as you can see in the reports, my husband had to hit it like three or four times with my son's hockey stick to get it finally get off and then he had to drag it to their house there. 87 00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:13.760 None of them in that house came out to see or anything. And then so ever since that incident happened, my kids, they are afraid to go outside in our own yard. They every day they always ask, "Is the dog outside? Is the dog 88 00:27:13.760 --> 00:27:29.120 outside?" So, we always have to go now in our backyard, out on our deck where we can see their backyard. And I always have to check and say, "Nope, the dog is not outside. Let's go outside." And now we have to play outside in the backyard so we can have a safe like to see if the 89 00:27:29.120 --> 00:27:45.120 dog is out. And now I always have to always think, okay, what do I have by me to keep me safe if that dog does come out? What am I going to use to defend myself? And I really don't want to keep living like that. And I don't want my kids to be afraid to go in their own 90 00:27:45.120 --> 00:28:01.039 yard. It's summer. I want them outside. I don't want them just sitting in the house playing electronics and stuff. I want them playing outside. And I miss seeing my seven-year-old rollerblade. He has not rollerblade or asked once to rollerblade anymore ever since that 91 00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:17.360 happened. And so it's just I would really love something to be done if anything. Like me personally and my kids personally would love it to see if that dog was taken away because I don't like living in fear. I 92 00:28:17.360 --> 00:28:34.960 don't like seeing my kids live in the fear. So, thank you council. I don't have really anything else to say if you guys have any questions. >> So, Brutus is the original dog that started this >> is the new one. Brutus is >> Brutus is the new one. 93 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:53.760 >> Yes, he's the younger one. And the other one was Daisy. >> Yes. Yep. >> And that's the one from the original report back in 21. >> Yes. Yep. >> Okay. >> I just don't think they're fit to have dogs. They don't train them. And that 94 00:28:53.760 --> 00:29:09.600 Brutus dog, too. They have this tire swing in their backyard hanging from a tree. And that dog will just hang on that thing and tear it apart and stuff. And the one of the people who live there, I think it's the boyfriend, he will have to literally grab the dog with 95 00:29:09.600 --> 00:30:00.960 two hands on the back and pull him up to take him back into the house cuz that dog will not listen to them. >> So when did they get Brutus? Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. I'm David Cook, her husband. Um, my wife 96 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:18.640 pretty much nailed it. Um, we're not dealing with a lab or a sprinter spananiel. Two pit bulls. I mean, they're machines. Have you ever seen them attack anything? They don't stop. I mean, if I 97 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:33.760 have to take a hockey stick and swing at him, hit him four times without letting go, there's a problem. I don't think I'm a light I'm not a small guy. I think I'm actually pretty strong. Um but I'm doing this I I don't 98 00:30:33.760 --> 00:30:49.760 want to be here obviously like anybody else. Um but I'm doing this for my kids. They are scared. They ask every time like my wife said if the dog is outside and my oldest son is PTSD. 99 00:30:49.760 --> 00:31:06.960 I'm sure cuz he will not if he sees that dog outside, he's in the house and there's no questions asked. It's done deal. Um so um and also being outside, why should I have to feel like I need to 100 00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:23.679 protect myself in my own yard because that dog can come through their fence, their picket fence. I shouldn't have to look what kind of weapons I have or have something in my garage that can dispose that dog in a hurry. 101 00:31:23.679 --> 00:31:38.640 So, that's pretty much what I got for you guys. Thanks for listening. >> Has there ever been an incident with both dogs at the same time? >> Not at the same time. >> Okay. Quick question. In your opinion, if they 102 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:55.600 had a different style fence, taller chain length, uh something that totally was metal that they couldn't bite through or break off boards, >> my opinion is there better be cement underneath it. >> Okay? >> Because that dog will dig and go under. 103 00:31:55.600 --> 00:32:09.840 >> Okay? >> But I mean, it doesn't take long for that dog. I was watching it Saturday. It's trying to rip words off that fence to get out. So 104 00:32:09.840 --> 00:32:30.880 yes, I would like to see the dog move on either disposed or rehomed somewhere else. That is my >> All right. Thank you. >> No, no. >> Anybody else? Then I don't see nobody at 105 00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:57.279 this time. I'll close the public hearing part of it and council will have discussion. >> I'm sorry. >> Yeah, this will be this is recording right now. So you'll be >> Yeah, you can stay if you want. 106 00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:29.080 >> Okay. Thank you. doesn't make mention of any of the names in any of the reports. >> No, >> that's what's hard on this is >> Yeah. >> You know, which drug are we going to treat? 107 00:33:31.600 --> 00:33:47.919 My concern my concern though is that with the kids >> No, I agree 100%. >> It's unfortunate these type of dogs some people are decent, but >> my daughter's got a gray one and you go 108 00:33:47.919 --> 00:34:06.320 up to that thing, it'll lay right down on the ground. Big baby. Yeah. >> The way they're raised. Yeah. >> It's the way they're raised. And Mr. Mayor and Council, what I will say is if the dangerous dog is sustained 109 00:34:06.320 --> 00:34:22.879 here this evening, that will follow the dog. So if they try and rehome it somewhere else, that goes with the dog, making it difficult to rehome at that point. >> Right, Mayor? Um, since we are dealing with the 110 00:34:22.879 --> 00:34:40.639 dangerous dog determination, I really I would suggest so that the record's very clear that you first deal with one dog named Brutus and make the make the determination, you know, whether it is a dangerous dog. 111 00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:56.879 Then move on to to Daisy. Make that determination and then depending upon that termination, then decide what disposition uh with respect to each of them just just so that the record is very 112 00:34:56.879 --> 00:35:14.800 clear as to the council's decision with respect to each dog. >> Are are both dogs up for potentially dangerous because it sound like only one dog attacked the small one. >> No, I think it started as Daisy 113 00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:32.079 started the deal and then they didn't get the other one till What? 23. So there's two twice twice that the uh >> Well, I'm >> 20 and 21. That would be Daisy. 114 00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:47.839 >> Yeah. I >> Brutus wasn't brought in till 23. >> Yeah, I'm I'm looking at the 44 26 report, >> right? This is the current one that uh >> Brutus >> Brutus that spurred the danger potentially dangerous stop 115 00:35:47.839 --> 00:36:05.440 >> for for that. >> So that the rest of the reports were uh just incident reports, >> right? >> So let's deal with Brutus first then. Let's deal with Brutus first. >> So we have Brutus, but the uh Daisy is 116 00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:22.560 Daisy up for potentially dangerous dog. Well, >> was that dog involved in this incident? >> Not not in this uh 2026 incident, but the earlier ones. Um if they're unprovoked and they chase or approaches 117 00:36:22.560 --> 00:36:38.960 a person uh in an apparent attitude of attack, doesn't mean that they are attacking, but um but if you have a loose definition of that, Daisy would fall into a potentially dangerous at that point. >> Okay. 118 00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:55.560 So the only the only citations if you're going off their records of when the dogs came in the issue, the only two citations would be against Brutus, right? 119 00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:21.599 >> Yeah, that's why I asked reading the reports. I said, "Wait a minute." >> Yeah, I didn't I didn't catch that at first. >> The ages don't match. She said she sent you pictures of her friends. >> Yeah, those um I'm actually I did 120 00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:37.599 receive them. I'm trying to recall where they went. They might have gone in the property file under the complaint. >> Essentially, dogs chew on fences. That's, you know, wood fences. They try and chew on sticks and if they can't find 121 00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:55.280 those, they'll chew on fences. So, it's it's not >> this one car tires. >> Yeah. So, the fencing is definitely inadequate. Let's I mean that's probably 122 00:37:55.280 --> 00:38:14.880 a good starting point, but >> well I would move to say that Brutus is definitely potentially dangerous dogs. I would agree with that. 123 00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:32.720 So Council Member Mundle, that would be a second. >> Uh was >> I'll make a motion for that. Yes. >> Okay. I will second mayor's motion. >> Have a motion and a second. Uh, any further discussion? 124 00:38:32.720 --> 00:38:48.160 >> Um, uh, Mr. Look, when our compliance officer goes out to review the property, I assume that'll probably be our building official and he can make a 125 00:38:48.160 --> 00:39:08.560 determination on whether that fence is adequate or not. Mr. Mayor and Council Member Mundle, typically they will go out to enforce the restrictions that you've placed on this this property. So, if they have to 126 00:39:08.560 --> 00:39:25.839 build a a kennel, a certain type of kennel with a concrete floor, then he would go out to inspect to make sure that was done. >> But he'd be making a determination on that. >> Right. As far as the fence that currently is there, we know they're getting out of that. So that's >> Yeah, >> that's >> Yeah, I'm not saying the fence that they 127 00:39:25.839 --> 00:39:46.000 have is adequate because obviously it is not >> right. >> And we definitely can't have neighborhood kids being terrorized. That that's that's not going to fly. >> No. So the decision you would have then is a 128 00:39:46.000 --> 00:40:04.000 dispose of the animal or b allow the animal to keep allow the owners to keep the animal with restrictions and then what are those restrictions and well let's get through to first motion here. 129 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:21.839 Any more discussion on the motion? None being heard. All those in favor of the potentially uh dangerous dog I >> I >> opposed unheard. Now let's go into discussion on what we 130 00:40:21.839 --> 00:40:52.240 want to do here. >> They did not respond to the certified mail notice. >> Yeah. And in one deal it says he went contestant anyway. Well, yeah, the mayor and council, the owner submitted a written request to 131 00:40:52.240 --> 00:41:09.280 appeal this decision, but did not respond to the certified mail notice of the hearing tonight. So, >> it's obviously not an intendance. >> I don't know. Somebody else maybe signed for it and he 132 00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:28.079 didn't get it. I don't know. I can't explain that. But well, I think the only way this is going to fly if we figure we have to figure out a way to make this yard a containment center so that the neighbors feel safe. I mean, other than 133 00:41:28.079 --> 00:42:01.520 that, there's not a lot that can be done. >> Yeah, we have the two options. disposal, we uh put uh restrictions. And if you're going to look at restrictions, you got one through eight there. So definitely I think he would need number one. 134 00:42:01.520 --> 00:42:23.280 >> Yeah, I'd say at a minimum one, four, five, six, seven, eight. Yeah, I had one, five, six, seven. Yeah. So yeah, we can come to a agreement on which ones 135 00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:44.560 we want. We can move forward with that. We're all in agreement. We don't want to dispose. >> Not at this time. >> Okay. I just want to make sure that clarify. >> So, we're into the >> What did you have? One, >> one, four, 136 00:42:44.560 --> 00:43:06.000 >> five, six, seven, eight. >> I think I can agree with that. Something like this. So, it's like what kind of time limit do we put on it for this guy to get it done? >> Uh I believe eight states 14 days 137 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:23.680 >> to have it completed in what we're requesting. >> Yeah, it's got to be completed 14 days for our compliance official to go out and look at it. >> I have no problem with those. I have no 138 00:43:23.680 --> 00:43:50.160 problem with that. And uh with this I assume if we look under here B seizure, the animal control authority shall seize a potentially dangerous dog if the owner does not meet each each 139 00:43:50.160 --> 00:44:06.560 other of the required each of the above requirements ordered by council within 14 days after the date notice is sent to the owner, would that still be in effect? So, if 140 00:44:06.560 --> 00:44:25.520 if these items are not completed within 14 days, that animal could potentially be seized. Okay, >> I'll make your motion. >> We'll send Nate over to do that. >> Um, yeah, I I can make a motion. 141 00:44:25.520 --> 00:44:42.520 to apply uh items one, four, five, six, 7, and eight to the four motion potentially dangerous stock known as Brutus. 142 00:44:44.240 --> 00:45:00.000 >> Second. >> Have a motion, a second. Any further discussion? >> I'm almost thinking 1 through eight and B. I I mean, this is some serious stuff that we're talking here. >> Yeah, that >> I think everything should be laid out 143 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:15.520 there. >> I can include two and three as well. >> Uh, and I just asked about B and Mr. L confirmed that that would be included no matter what. So, we don't have to include that in the motion. >> So, uh, I'll make a friendly amendment, 144 00:45:15.520 --> 00:45:34.400 my own motion to include all one through eight requirements. I'll second that. >> Okay, we have a motion, a second for one through eight. Any further discussion? None being heard. All those in favor? 145 00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:57.359 >> I opposed. Unheard. Motion passes. Now, as far as the other dog, do we There's never a citation that we know of on this one. So, >> Mr. Mayor and Council, perhaps what I would recommend is seeing as they're 146 00:45:57.359 --> 00:46:18.560 required to build an enclosure that this dog would have to be in that enclosure, too. >> They would benefit from what we're doing. The only thing I don't like is we've got one already a potentially dangerous and the other one kind of iffy and now 147 00:46:18.560 --> 00:46:40.000 you're putting them together. Now you're creating a double standard here. It's going to be a mess. But we still got to act on it. >> Yeah. My my only response to that is that dogs learn from dogs. And um 148 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:56.800 I don't know if uh if Daisy learned some bad traits that would now be threatening to kids as well. That's that's a risk. >> So let's first off uh we need to declare 149 00:46:56.800 --> 00:47:32.560 if Daisy's going to be considered potentially dangerous. That's what we need to decide. Mayor, council members, um maybe this can assist. you did have some testimony from the residents, the neighbors uh with respect to Daisy as well. So that 150 00:47:32.560 --> 00:47:49.760 is evidence before you albeit it is the dog Brutus that had the incident that initiated this particular action and the initiate um and then the record that you have um as far as previous incident reports is 151 00:47:49.760 --> 00:48:04.880 July 2021, October 2021. um those clearly had to do with Daisy since that predated that 20 242 23. What is not clear at least to me um and maybe it is clear to you is whether that 152 00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:21.440 October 2023 report uh is with respect to Brutus or Daisy. Um but there there is sufficient bases for you to proceed forward on the dangerous dog um issue 153 00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:41.200 with respect to Daisy. >> So in other words, we can include Daisy basically >> if if you believe that that record is sufficient for a determination of d of potentially dangerous dog. um there's 154 00:48:41.200 --> 00:48:57.280 sufficient evidence in my view for that determination. There is evidence obviously within your discretion to um determine otherwise as well. It does make sense for you to then consider that since both dogs are in the 155 00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:14.839 same ownership, you know, whether the same type of restrictions would naturally follow. Again, that's within your discretion. So, I'm just trying to give you some some guideposts and not >> and and stay in my lane and let you >> do your job. >> I appreciate that. 156 00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:59.839 I have a question, Eric. There's two ways I'm thinking about this. one dog that we've just discussed has these restrictions and the homeowner has these restrictions. Looking at it from that point of view, 157 00:49:59.839 --> 00:50:14.880 his other dog would have to follow and live underneath those same restrictions because that's what's going to be done to his yard and so forth if he so chooses. At the same time, Mayor, you make a good point. Is that 158 00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:31.359 what happens with this other dog if it actually does hurt somebody? Are we setting up the city for something? >> Um, if if we don't declare one and the other and the other one gets out and they're from the same house, same type 159 00:50:31.359 --> 00:50:46.400 of dog, same thing, everything. Are we safer as a city to put it both of them under the same restrictions at the same time or just thinking, okay, we're going to do this for one dog, now you got a big fence, you have all this other stuff you 160 00:50:46.400 --> 00:51:05.920 have to do. You're in the same house, you have to abide by the same rules there. That may not happen. And if that doesn't happen, are are we in a bad position? because one, we won't want to do that and we don't want another, 161 00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:20.720 you know, kid to be terrorized by a dog out there. Mayor, Council Member Miller, um I'm going to break that down into basically, I think, kind of two ways of approaching your 162 00:51:20.720 --> 00:51:37.760 question. If you're talking about is a city in a liability situation, uh regardless of what decision it makes with respect to Daisy, no. Does does you create however a a safety type of challenge or conflict if you 163 00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:55.359 impose restrictions on Brutus but don't impose uh similar restrictions or even declare uh with respect to Daisy potentially dangerous dog and then something uh how does that basically unfold there is a possibility that the 164 00:51:55.359 --> 00:52:11.760 owner decides not to implement any of those restrictions or fails to implement Paul 8 with respect to Brutus. So then what happens? Brutus then is you know seized and either is 165 00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:27.359 a new home or disposed of and so forth and not returned or that particular homeowner appeals or after that 14 days gets into compliance with those eight restrictions. But if not then all of a sudden you have the same type of 166 00:52:27.359 --> 00:52:42.480 situation. uh rickety. Well, I'm not gonna say rickety. I'm just going to say wooden fence because I haven't seen the fence, but it's a wooden fence. Obviously, inadequate to, you know, enclose and and keep that dog enclosed so forth, either 167 00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:58.319 dog. And but you don't have any restrictions with respect to Daisy. You're really having to start all over again with respect to Daisy. Um, as I said stated before, you make 168 00:52:58.319 --> 00:53:13.680 the decision as to potentially dangerous dog or not. Um, but if you don't, you don't have any on Daisy. You don't have any controls over Daisy. If you want to have controls over Daisy, there is sufficient evidence before this board to 169 00:53:13.680 --> 00:53:29.760 declare potentially dangerous dog. And then in the judgment of this council, you have sufficient basis to impose all or part of those restrictions on Daisy as well. 170 00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:46.960 >> I I I hope that answered your question. >> It did. >> With that said, I'll make a motion that we uh make Daisy a potentially dangerous dog. Also, one >> second. 171 00:53:46.960 --> 00:54:05.760 Motion a second. Any further discussion? None being heard. All in favor? I >> opposed. None being stipulations. Requirements. Well, it has to be one for sure. 172 00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:22.800 >> I would say same as what we did with Bruce because he's got to do that automatically anyway. >> Through eight. I'll do make a motion one through eight. >> Second. >> Motion a second. Any further discussion? None being heard. All in favor? 173 00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:45.200 >> I opposed. None heard. Thank you guys. Thanks, Eric. All right. Consent agenda. There's nobody on the list. Is there >> public forum? Oh, no one has signed in. >> You guys didn't sign in. 174 00:54:45.200 --> 00:55:01.520 >> Come on. >> Okay. >> No one has signed in. >> All right. Consent agenda. >> Make a motion to approve the consent consent agenda as presented. >> Second. >> Motion in a second. Any further discussion? 175 00:55:01.520 --> 00:55:24.240 >> Yeah, I want to pull B. That it okay we have a motion and a second uh to accept the consent agenda as amended. All those in favor >> I oppose being item B. I only have one 176 00:55:24.240 --> 00:55:42.240 thing, Matt. Uh, page 50 and number seven says with Smith there, it says noted he has gotten many emails, didn't get any emails or just phone calls. And that's it on that one. So, I'll make 177 00:55:42.240 --> 00:55:59.760 a motion to approve item B on the consent agenda. Second motion second. Any further discussion? None being heard. All those in favor? I >> I opposed. None. >> All right, let's go down, I guess, item 178 00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:17.119 9A. >> Mr. Mayor and Council, just a couple items to um update you on. I did already cover the uh Nexus uh issue. We covered that in work session. Uh but again, we're just trying to keep an eye on on 179 00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:33.920 where the state's rolling in on that uh on that lure as it can impact the um taxable status of the building obviously and also the um uh the cup, the conditional use permit. So we'll keep you guys updated on that. Um, in uh Miss 180 00:56:33.920 --> 00:56:51.760 Urkl's absence, I will just uh say that the Anoka County Blaine uh airport committee has a Wednesday, June 3rd meeting at 4 p.m. if anyone is interested in attending that. I know she always advertises for them uh on their meetings that are coming up. And then 181 00:56:51.760 --> 00:57:08.960 also Cedar Creek Tour on June 10th at 1 to 3:00 p.m. uh they have a new director over there, so we'll get a chance to meet him. and um going to see some of the work that they're doing over there. And I know that council members have taken tours in the past and have enjoyed it. So, it should be a wonderful 182 00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:24.319 experience to go on that. But, um aside from that, um I think I'm good unless there's any questions. Um, I'd just ask with the uh dangerous dogs that we just had that uh 183 00:57:24.319 --> 00:57:44.720 after the 14 days, can you update council on what uh the ongoings I'd like to add to that too is like this is important. I feel will a sheriff be 184 00:57:44.720 --> 00:58:01.200 delivering the paperwork to them? Would that be the best way to do it since they didn't get the registered letter before and they didn't respond? >> The uh well the process would be a registered letter. Um >> saying because they obviously they 185 00:58:01.200 --> 00:58:15.359 weren't here, >> right? Better to have a deputy just hand the paperwork say here you go. Then there won't be any excuses. I don't know what the rest council thinks. >> Fine by me. >> Yep. 186 00:58:15.359 --> 00:58:32.400 >> Okay. We can do a redundant. That's all I got. >> Good idea. >> That's it, Matt. >> That's all I have. Yep. >> All right. Council reports. >> I have nothing. 187 00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:44.559 >> No. >> Okay. With nothing. I will entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> Make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. Motion second. All in favor?