okay I'm going to call the meeting to order and is there a motion to adopt the agenda so moved second I'll second that okay um all in five favor say I I I I
and oppose no or I'm don't it's I okay that passed and we are going to have our Council city council update to begin with good evening I'm Brian mundle I'm your city council lion for this year and as
some of you know I started my journey on public service to the city right on the Planning Commission so serving as lion is is always very enjoyable for me it's like coming home and I'm very happy to be here to serve for you and as your
lies in I'm not just here just to give you an update I'm here as a resource for you if you need it if you have questions ask me if you have concerns tell me about them and I am here to serve you
and make sure I can do whatever I can to help the planing commission so for our update uh with the resonation of Aaron Bergs the city entered into a contract
with landform that we have right here Kendra lindall is taken the place for the city planning until we can fulfill a position for a new community development director
and we feel confident that we can move forward in that action um city council chose to replace the Eda members with council members as the Eda members terms expire um my myself I don't agree with
this I think that we should have citizens on commissions for their input and their perspectives unfortunately I was not able to attend that council meeting and express that I was out sick with the
fever for three days and felt it wouldn't be prudent to expose that to other people um uh the city has hired a new city planner Grace Gerard uh she
will be starting in March and we're looking forward to bringing her up to speed and involving her with all the City activities and the fun that goes with them and the council is looking at a new ordinance for baram
miniums so more to come with that uh um is there any questions or comments from anybody if not I thank you for your service to the city thank you you Mr M thanks for okay so we're going to go on to the
approval of minutes did everyone have a chance to take a look at them and do you have uh any corrections I was there an I was not there either do you guys have any corrections I didn't note anything other than yeah no that was
nothing no uh so meso business is the correct spelling what's that meso business what about it that's the correct term okay so do you know what line that's on uh there's one on line 56 156 okay I don't even see line 156 sorry 56
56 56 okay okay so are you asking if the is correct terminology yeah you're asking if is it yeah yeah I don't know should we it is the correct term that's a state uh term with the new
legislation thank you so are you okay with it as it is then yes I'm okay with it okay sounds good and um do we have any motion to approve the minutes I'll make a motion to approve the minutes in a second second the
motion okay all in favor say I I and all that are abstaining I think that motion passed okay and then the next thing is we have a variance and let me see okay Miss lindall you're
going to introduce this okay thank you okay this is a variance request for a second driveway at 1670 229th Lane Northeast the owner has applied for a
second driveway on their property and this property is in the future growth area of the city it's zoned R1 and the city code allows only one curb cut this is uh typical across the residential districts uh survey is required prior to
any construction uh we didn't have one with this application so just scaling off the plans generally um the one submitted didn't have Dimensions but it appears that the current driveway is about 109 ft long uh from the
curb this is the exhibit submitted by the applicant uh the uh variant request is to allow a second driveway here this is the existing home again uh just to be clear none of this is to scale so bear that in mind the existing
home is here with the existing driveway uh the applicant would like to build a new shed in this location and have a new curb cut here near near the uh CU desc is a CU desc at the end of uh 2 29th um staff has looked at it given the
distance from the house uh it does appear very feasible to be able to tee off of this driveway the green line is not the applicant's drawing but just an example of within that 100 foot long driveway uh very easy to uh do that
Public Works has looked at it um uh the there would be if a new driveway was uh uh permitted uh new Culvert would be required um certainly this is something that uh needs to be looked at in accordance with the Practical difficulty
standards outlined in the order ordinance so the staff report lays those out um the first is uh that you need to Prov find that all three prongs of that practical difficulties have been met uh with a variance the burden of proof is
on the applicant to show that there's a hardship it's not just that I would like to have this that there's some physical reason I cannot comply with the code um and the way we test that as the three prongs is the request reasonable uh is it due to some unique
unique circumstance on the property there's no way I can comply with the code because of something grades are common uh significant trees are common uh will it have an impact on the neighborhood character and so they have
to pass all three in order to approve the variant and I've provided in the staff report findings of fact for both things you could find for approval or denial of this request um the option
question are uh if you recommend denial we've provided findings of fact uh based on the finding that the applicant has not met the three-prong test or if you think that they do meet the three prongs I provided some findings you may want to massage those it was kind of a stretch
for me to find findings for approval so you might want to modify them but I have provided them in the staff report so those are your two options this is not a public hearing for a variant uh Madam chair I'm happy to answer any question questions um and I believe the
applicants are here tonight okay so um then I'm not going to open a public hearing or it's not a public hearing you can certainly take public comment but it is not a public hearing okay sounds good did you have anything else you wanted to add I don't uh
certainly happy to answer any questions about the staff report though if you had questions about the draft findings in there okay okay thank you um is the applicant here so that is yeah I'm here okay why don't you to come on up please
and if you could just um say your name and your well we have your address yeah uh my name is Christina pan uh it's my husband alen that uh is on the actual application so okay and Christine is there anything
that you want to say kind of to support your case for this uh to support my case well we have looked at the options of teeing off of our driveway if you actually come and drive
down the road and look at our driveway it's not as feasible as as on a piece of paper there are lots of trees there that would need to be taken out as well as my yard that's already there it would just compromise our front yard it would be
all driveway to get to the shed also this is a deadend road it goes to a culdesac we are the last house on the right hand side we wouldn't be obscuring anybody's scenery or
uh I don't know V visuals with the shed or the driveway um we butt up to another person's property that has 40 acres um there's other driveways and when I they're not cut
into the curb people just drive on the grass in our in our on our road I'd prefer not to do that I would like to have a nice driveway so again to keep the exetic of of the neighborhood um I know our neighbors are supportive of it
they've all said absolutely no big deal to us type of thing um again just just uh I would like to I mean yes there is no need for the second drive but it would actually be much better again to get
things in and out of the shed would be obviously much better from the the road opposed to coming off of our driveway um in in all honesty if we can't get the second driveway we're just going to scrap it because it we would not put a
second driveway off of our driveway it just wouldn't make sense for us but would you scrap the whole building thing too yes yeah it just wouldn't it honestly wouldn't make sense it just wouldn't make sense for us okay um are they all are the other commissioner members that able to ask
her questions right now or yes absolutely the applicant is here and you can as Commissioners ask questions okay do you guys have any questions no I I will say I read your your application or um suggestions that you want to do and
it said in there that you wanted 14 foot walls on the plan and I know that doesn't meet the code so you'll run up against that too the I think that must have been we know we can't do 14 footballs we'd have to do 12 foot walls and put in a scissor
trust we know that yes yes that must have been yes yes we're aware of that saw on the paperwork that I read make you aware of that yes yes we're correct y okay yep that's already fored it yeah okay yes that's all I have for questions
okay Brian um yeah you you were saying shed this is a 30X 60 pole barn pull Barn shed I don't know what you want to call but yes it is I agree it is not a garage or being a just a shed in the backyard or anything like that it is definitely a shop a shed okay um a pole
barn um um yeah the last 30X 60 I was in was on a farming um establishment um I guess so is there going to be a lot of heavy equipment coming in out of this show no absolutely not uh the the purpose for it is we have a a fish house
that we have and so instead of again parking that in our driveway or parking that alongside our house we could put it in the shop so it would be places to park our uh extracurricular uh items that we have
and then obviously of course for storage but no no we don't run any small businesses of any kind we don't have any equipment we don't no not no a lawnmower all right four-wheeler maybe thank you and that was going to be my question too was what when you refer to
it at a shop I was wondering if you were planning on putting a business there someday no we we've got plenty to do we don't need another second job of something else so okay um it was mentioned that uh a covert was going to have to be put in
for this do are you aware of you're going to have to be paying for that or is this I was completely unaware of any of that so I had spoken to the previous must event city planner or uh and he had ADV you know when I spoke with him um it sounded very promising he
he didn't of course he didn't look into it in depth but he just gave an overall he's like oh yeah this yep let me look into it that sort of thing so I was unaware of that so if that is something that needs to happen of course I would assume we would have to cover that cost but um yeah I was unaware that
okay so I've got two two different perspectives about this and um the the perspective which I'm sure would be represented by Tanner we here is that the concern about setting a
precedent so that's that's the U negative on that um the way I look at that is we look at these Case by case so it doesn't mean if we were to Grant a variance for a
driveway this the next person could do it um cuz in my opinion it setting a precedent doesn't compel you to have to do it everywhere else if you're looking at it Case by case so on the
positive it's not I mean the main reason not to do that is because you're on a road that has traffic coming through it and you don't want multiple um exits and entrances when you have traffic to have to look out for
and that's not a case here at the end of the kisac on a street that does not get very much traffic especially at the very end there yeah it's dead end yeah it goes to a house right yeah so from that standpoint I'm not
concerned about an extra driveway as far as impacting negatively the neighborhood or the dangers of traffic there um it's the thing about the trees I see that no matter what you do a lot of
trees are going to have to go down in either one way or the other because of having to put the shed there and the driveway there would be probably fewer trees if you had to come off the existing
driveway but anyway those are my considerations and I haven't really resolved that all but I lean toward property owner knowing what they need if it's a reasonable to me it's a reasonable request it's just doesn't
necessarily meet all the standard criteria but it seems like a reasonable reason to make an exception based on where it is in relation to the road and what kind of Road it is okay
um I I think unless you have anything else to to say you could just um take a little rest and we'll discuss this a little bit here if you don't mind open for any other questions if you guys have anything but otherwise I will nothing else to add thanks so these are
hard because we've had in the last year or so we've had quite a few second driveways and there go 50/50 doesn't it see sometimes we do sometimes we don't and I don't I'm all for it I I think it's a total reasonable request a you go
in front of their house it looks like you got a service drive when you drive down the road and B you're putting more hard service because it'll be longer cutting across the front to get to it than just finishing it to the road
and if you have a trailer I want to see somebody back it up around the corner back in the driveway back down the service road back into the you know it's just not reasonable and so I think if we're going to allow a second buildings
which we do we got to allow access and if they pave it and it's a nice building it's going to fit fine in the neighborhood but not in every single instance not in every single but M I clearly I went past this one I think it's not a non-issue
MH Okay and like the homeowner said people will just drive across the lawn straight anyway because you're not going to back the trailer like that and then you end up with a path and it looks worse than a payment now I don't think it should be 20t wide at the road to
limit the runoff you know keep it 12T 16 Max but I I it's just it's reasonable there's no question it's reasonable okay Ryan um I could see where uh the
driveway to the curb would be uh convenient um definitely uh I also think that 109 ft driveway um I think that there's possibility in there for
for a solution to this um there the aerial photo I have there's a lot of trees and I'm guessing a lot of those trees are going to come down during this project so I guess I don't see why that is any uh any reason to go to go against this also the um the president that you
spoke to Tanner I'm sorry Glenn um second driveways uh would do just just that that would set the precedent um I think exploring the solution off of the 109 ft driveway um
should be exhausted before just going with the off the curb because it's convenient that's kind of where I'm at right now okay well going into this you know I really didn't find a lot of compelling
reasons also to allow the second um driveway but I'm I'm kind of seeing that um we do have a little bit of flexibility to make a recommendation I want everyone you especially the homeowner to understand that we make a recommendation to the city council and
then they may or may not listen to what we discussed and then they make the final decision so whatever we do is just a recommendation um so again um I'm like Glenn and in thinking that it's nice for homeowners
to do what they want to do with their property as long as it's within reason yes again just to show like what it actually looks like to show you how much is like supposedly my front yard to put this driveway would like a physical
picture help would that just paint the picture better because there is not a lot of space to come off and make a driveway there there really isn't I mean my front where I would have to come off of my driveway we don't have a lot of yard
there so I'm just wondering if that would if that is something that we could now still submit some some more evidence or um to support the driveway and as far as the 109 ft that's because we have to set it back so far with the line of our house we we
don't want to have to set it back that far we would love to be able to put it not so far back in the wood and lose all those trees for sure but we have to meet the the line of the front of the house we have to put it back behind the house so yes so that but yeah just wondering
if that is something that we could still add or I I think that the the pictures that we have are are pretty sufficient that and I'm kind of thinking of going your way anyway so unless okay unless there's Glenn what do you
think um I wasn't paying careful attention to the I forgot about the setback having to match the front of the house sometimes we granted variances to not have to do that but it's usually because there are wells SE septic
systems or other natural barriers that make it not feasible to do that but again in we didn't want to press our lock we wanted to we didn't want to ask for a variance for the driveway and then a variance to move it closer so we thought
we would go for the driveway okay it would be nice to not have to set it back so far we'd be happy to do that but I yeah we don't have that in front of us to consider but that would save a lot of trees and a lot of
asphalt and it wouldn't again wouldn't negatively impact the neighborhood I don't think however we we can't act on that in this without a variance for that so but it might be something to consider If This Were appr if the derve
we were approved okay I do have one last question um Kendra if so with the the Culvert who is paying for that the applicant the applicant so so we put it in and then they and they get a bill or
I believe I'll have to check with Nate but I believe the app applicant uh puts that in okay uh for our city standards yeah whoever installs the driveway will put in the Culvert that's right I I believe I'll confirm that before the council meeting though okay um I think
my Memo from the public works director simply says they need to install a culvert if the council approves the variance okay do you guys want to have any more discussion are there any motions yet I I do have one thing um I
agree that the driveway should should be the width should be minimized I'm wondering if there's any reason not to or to have it as toward the narrowest end of the spectrum rather than 20 ft we have no issue with that at all whatever
would need to happen is fine you're more knowledgeable about roads and driveways than I am so maybe you could recommend it well I I just like I say just take square footage of hard surface you're going to have less going straight right makes sense run off
but I'm I'm thinking if we craft a motion it should include um yeah I see that I don't think that we can tell them their design right now I think that's on when they the
design but we can because it's a variance we can have certain requirements to be met okay for approval you can attach conditions to mitigate the effect of the variance you're absolutely right commissioner sure okay well I would make a motion to pass
it with 12T wide up to the building so your motion is to approve approve or to recommend approval with with a 12T width okay so Kendra's got
that is there a second a second okay any more discussion Madam chair just to clarify is that subject to the draft conditions in the staff report the findings of fact yeah with uh from yeah the from the
staff report um yeah with all of those okay okay any more discussion okay all in favor say I I I and opposed I okay so that motion passed so um do you know when the next city
council meeting is 10th March 10th of March and it'll be on their agenda okay so then on March 10th okay well our schedule has it actually going to the second meeting in March our planning schedule uh which would be the the four the 24th 24th okay so it will be the
24th a little bit more for you to wait but that's when the final decision will be made check back with me I'll talk with the city administrator afterwards but yeah you'll get a notice from the city yeah okay so what is the next thing on our
agenda we are going to have a public hearing um from Petra and John is it fager or fager I just want fager okay um regarding an inuse permit and Madam chair uh Zeke Peters from my office uh
reviewed this application and he'll be presenting tonight hi hi my name is Zeke Peters with landform um and I'll be presenting this interim use permit um have slides behind me so we're going to be reviewing an interim use permit for the sheep for sheep grazing at a
property located at 20845 East bethl Boulevard Northeast um Petra and John fager the applicant who are here right now um they applied for this interim use permit um they do not own the property but they have the permission from the property owner um they have previously
applied for a crazing iup on their own property that came through um late last year um the city's discretion improved or denying an interim use permit is limited on whether or not it meets the standards in the staff report you'll find um that they were requesting to
graze 13 sheep on 6.6 acres of land um it's highlighted on this behind me um this is what the app can provided to us um they plan on using one acre at a time with an electric fence type thing which is allowed um for grazing of animals in
East bethl with an inter use permit and moving these sheep around they would be allowed the 13 sheet per the code and then on the next slide Kendra there are 10 standards for General interim use permits and conditional use permits that are laid out in the report um staff
feels that they have met all these permits as well as with their narrative where they talk about the requirements specific to grazing of animals such as setbacks um manure storage systems if using distance from Wells property lines and other items which staff also has
reviewed and Fin that they do have and finally the difference between an interim use permit and a conditional use permit is interim use permits temporary or temporary most of the time or they have some sort of termination Point um the code doesn't lay out a specific termination Point um so the council or
commission can recommend when that termination will be um on previous um iup that the the applicant had applied for on their property um Council and commission had attached a temporary timeline of one year and coming back to review it for 3 years um staff doesn't
feel that's necessary just because as part of the interim use permit requirements per code if they violate any of the standards it's revoked so we don't feel there's a need to review it after one year with the applicant because if they're not meeting the standards we can revoke the IU permit
the interim use permit without having to have a public meeting and an application I agree so um we have the standards in there on which it will expire if the property of sold or transfer if they're found to be out of compliance or if they fail to start grazing activities three years
after its final approval so the recommendations are on there for approval or denial um and I'm here to answer any questions as as the applicant oh and one more thing thank you Kendra we did receive an additional public comment that was given to you previous to this meeting a copy is available at
this table and it's been attached to the public record as well as if the person was here reading it themselves did you see this well do you have any and did you guys get a chance to read it yes I did did you
want okay good you need a copy no we're good yeah everyone's got it so yeah so that's an additional record that was received after the packet was created and sent out and I'm available for any questions you might have and we do want to open a public hearing for this item yep when
you're ready thank you okay thank you so and with that we're going to open up the public hearing for this so if anyone would like to speak please come up and first of all we'd like to have people who are not the fagers come up if
they want to speak about it and then we'll take down kind of the concerns and then we'll ask the figures to respond to that so first of all is there anybody who wants to talk that is not a figure about this issue if not then did do you guys want
to come up okay and just um if you could please State your names and that's fine that you're both at the microphone together just kind of speaking the microphone best you can I'm Petra fager I'm John
figure um we got sheep um following our last iup at our own property and we're enjoying it and it's been um the animals themselves are enjoyable but we're also enjoying restoring the
Farmland around us to more of a natural P um Native setting and um we uh had an opportunity with the property owner gym to um do something similar on his
property and his property also was used for um Ro cropping for many years that section of his property and um so we're using a sustainable rotational grazing um method and so the the Sheep are moved
throughout the land um giving each section of the land rest and then the the Sheep's manure it drops in place and it actually acts as fertilizer and the Sheep pwing up the ground um actually will bring the property back to a more
beautiful native state so um I think the letter that the neighbor sent concerned about abrupt wire we have no intention of using bro wire um the the net fencing that we're looking at using is what we've been using at our own property and
it's um it's not a super high voltage but it just creates a barrier to keep them in place and um so I don't if you yeah just one other thing I was going to add was uh you know concern
about smell um you know that's every body's concerned you know we don't want to be smelling it either uh but uh my experience that typically occurs when you're dealing with a high density uh lots of animals in a small area with a kind of a kfo operation it's a confined
animal feeding operation and that's not what we're doing um and just as the city ordinance I think it's two sheep per per acre that's that's not a very high density so uh I don't really have a concern about a smell of manure or
anything like that um the type of sheep that we're using are called icelandics and um the city guidelines don't talk about like what size of animal within the animal um but an Icelandic is considered a middle-sized sheep so theoretically we
could be bringing much larger 13 sheep out but these guys will not have an undue impact on the land so how's your electric fence working now have the have any of the Sheep Escape we have had an escape but they
really like grain so we just get them back in we had one troublemaker and he met the butcher a couple weeks ago so mhh poor thing yeah Circle of Life yeah that's true so um basically it's like a sheep
tractor right with the with electric fence or not um no it's more like it's a temporary fence in that you're not doing like cement posts and like committing to one fence layout the how long are the rolls we've been using 164 feet so it's a step in post
every 10 12 feet or so uh and then you got a charger that electri that you use to Electrify it um solar power yeah solar power we've been using solar power just because of the uh trying to run a power line out to it is uh not very
feasible but it's white it's a netting and um it just gives them a a zap it also is helping for like if there's coyotes or something it deters Predators or even like loose neighborhood dogs but it's a low voltage like if I touch it
I'm like oh but it's not like I'm falling on the floor rolling around it's just a zip little zap is there an outside fence then kind of around the property that you're going to be keeping the the Sheep there's not an additional perimeter fence that's not so if they're
out they're out if they're out there out yeah and on your property that you have now is there kind of a double barrier um there's parts of our property that have it now we're in the middle of a perimeter fence permit but we haven't completed that fence we weren't able to
finish it before winter okay um do you guys have any questions for the figers I have a question about this letter um because they're talking talking about the figer property is the
joining um The Writer's land but this isn't on the figer property it's on a property that they are leasing so was that a mistake on her part in the what she wrote or I mean is she a neighbor of where you live or I'm
assuming she just didn't read carefully and thought we were the owners to the north okay gentle and so to understand you have the Sheep at your house now at your own property yes but you're not going to keep them there at all we'll have some of them there oh so you're going to have
some at both sides so right now we have um the seven that we were given permission for and six of those are used so we'll have some Lambs this spring and having additional land will give us flexibility to keep some of them butcher some of
them grow some of them out all right thanks I don't have any questions okay if I could just say one thing that you know as a farmer myself I do understand
how beneficial it will be for that that land that has been R cropped for so many years with chemicals and things to have this manure into it um it really does build back the soil a lot so I mean whether we approve it or not I think
it's a it's a a good thing that you're doing to the soil that way okay so um I think we're going to close the public hearing then and gentlemen do you have anything that you want to
discuss no I don't think so other I guess has the city received any complaints on the property they have now iware they have thanks um I am a little bit concerned about the Sheep getting out you know
once one goes they're all going to go out onto the road or whatever so I probably will have to abstain because I have a positive relationship with the figures and also the Sheep ended up on our property which was not a problem at
all um but did you get the first pork chop um no but I I just they're very respons resp people are very um engaged and trying to do the best with what
they're given and I I really think they're good people to have as neighbors and I support what they're doing but I probably have to abstain just for that reason okay well it's funny that you should mention that because um I am
going to be abstaining from another one later um I know the fagers also they come into the Farm Stand from time to time but so I don't know them well enough that I feel that I need to abstain on this one okay so do we have any motion on
this um yeah based on the applicant submission the contents of this report public testimony and other evidence available to the Planning Commission I recommend I think the Planning Commission should recommend approval uh of this request for an iup
for grazing of 13 sheep goats on the property located at 20845 East Bethal Boulevard Northeast to the city council that was a great motion and is there a second yeah I'll second the motion okay and since we only have three voting
people is this going to be considered valid I don't know that anion is necessary unless Mr jry personally benefits oh no I don't so yeah be happy to vote everybody knows everybody we do
it usually boil down personal state in the matter okay thank you for clarifying that so then we have four people so we can have whatever vote but um yeah I would have second the motion okay okay did you
second it though already yeah okay good okay uh any more discussion if not all I would just ask that the city um I know they're short staffed and but I would hope they would keep an eye on complaints
due to the neighbors's concern you know that's all I would ask yeah I would I would think that if there were any complaints we about fers would have heard about it okay okay all in favor say I I I and
opposed so that motion passes and we will recommend the approval to the city council and that one will go on the 24th you think Kendra yes unless you hear differently it's going on the 24th as we said in the letter that we sent
previously all right okay the next uh agenda item we're going to have a public hearing um for a preliminary plat and Kendra are you taking this one Madam chair yes this is a preliminary plat for Blanco deola pedera uh this is a three
lot subdivision um uh the property is zoned rural residential excuse me guided rural residential and Zone rural residential that is two different Parcels as shown on the image there uh they will be
combined through this plat and then split into these three long Parcels um along the county road uh there's a large wetland in the back uh which has been delineated uh generally the uh concept
plan shows three building pad sites with uh some long drive driveways this is a challenging lot in the middle needs to scoot the driveway around that Wetland uh and on my next slide um staff is reviewed for compliance with the
preliminary plat uh with preliminary plats if it meets the standards in the zoning ordinance or excuse me in the subdivision ordinance the city has little discretion the city engineer has reviewed and in your staff report or in your packet is a number of comments uh
with conditions of approval that would need to be met the inoa County transportation department has also reviewed and provided comments uh they don't have any concerns about the proposed accesses they find those to be an acceptable location additional ride
of way will be required to be dedicated for the county road an additional 10 ft of RightWay on the north side of the road those conditions um would need to be met prior to submitt of the final plat so if the preliminary plat moves through Council approval then the next
step is the applicant would come back for final plot approval that goes to the council only whoops wrong direction um in this case as outlined in the staff report we've prepared a draft uh
resolution uh for approval we do believe that the conditions of preliminary plat have been met for this subdivision uh so we do recommend approval but the commission could recommend denial if you found that there were conditions of plat approval that have not been met uh you
would need to identify what conditions have not been met uh so with that I'm happy to answer any questions about the plat application Madam mayor chair I just promoted you there wow thanks all right uh we're going to open
the public hearing for this so if anyone first of all that would like to speak who is not the applicant come up please and if not if the applicant is here um please come up too and just uh let us know your name and your address
please hi my name is Matt chich uh address 6881 147th Avenue Northwest Ramsey okay thank you yep and what would you like to tell us so I bought this property a year ago um the reason I'm splitting it is kind of just to break
down the cost of buying the land in to build our future home there so that's going to help save cost on the initial purchase of the land and we have some friends that want to build also we're not trying to build a big development with City roads or anything so we just
decided to split it three ways meets ordinance for road right away and everything the width of the property each property to the county road we've talked to since it's on a county road we talked to them about the um uh bypass Lane so we got that figured
out where the driveways should be on each property and everything so I found it really interesting how you were able to split that and make it work on paper at least yeah that land's been for sale for quite a while too and I kind of just ran into it last year when I sold my other place so hoping to do
something with it okay gentlemen do you have any questions for Matt I don't um hoping to do something with it you you mentioned uh building homes and starting a a house there um is that what you mean when you say yeah so we'll be
building our future home there y That's our plan and then same with our friends that want to purchase once it's split they would purchase a lot and then build their house on so keep it rural residential Builder houses thank you yep Glenn nice slots
thank you and it's called white tail Prairie by the way okay Spanish just unique I was wondering I mean I didn't have a chance to look it up but yeah that's what is white tail I knew the cber was tail okay a lot of white tails there too you keep them where you
are all right okay um if there's no other questions I think we'll just have a discussion here okay okay thank you okay Kendra was there any concerns um with with this develop with
the division of the no it's pretty straightforward uh like I said in the packet there are some conditions some revisions that need to be made to address uh City and County engineer um conditions um but no it does comply with the code yeah it I mean it seemed to be
more straightforward than I thought it was going to be actually going into it yeah we don't get the that many of those anymore do we but no it does comply and so we do recommend approval uh subject to the findings and conditions in the draft resolution
okay any discussion I don't think it's needed it's easy you say well like she like Kendra said it's we don't see a lot of this this is done exactly as it should um I think we just need to move it to the next stage
okay Cory or Glenn no comments T okay oh uh yes I'll make a motion to Let's close the public hearing first oh I'm so sorry I thought I did but we'll close the public hearing thank you I make a motion to approve the lot
split with the staff recommendations and other engineering um requests that okay I'll second the motion great any more
discussion if not um all in favor say I I and opposed so so that motion carries all right and we'll give you a little chance to catch up if you're okay yes I'm going
to have Zeke present this next one which is a public hearing for a rezoning good evening again commission we have a request for a zoning map Amendment to rezone the property located at 2206 Durant Street
Northeast from currently rural residential to a agriculture um the request comes from the property owner uh Troy Slater and the applicant is requesting that their property be zoned back to agriculture uh
it is currently zoned as rural residential and guided as rural residential um if you go to the previous slide as you can see um it's in the O there um it is most of the properties around it are also residential but there is agriculturally Zone properties that
border it and go up north from there um the city has a relatively high level of discretion when it comes to approving and rezoning a rezoning application um it must be consistent with the comprehensive plan and the standards for it um those have been laid out in here um talking about changing it from mural
residential to agriculture um ultimately they have very similar design standards they're both for land that's usually outside of a urban service boundary which they both both are here and for a density of one unit per 10 acres um on this parcel um while there aren't many
differences between the two zones one of the biggest differences that the applicant um did bring up in a phone call with staff was the intent to not expand the use on the property but to build additional accessory structures um in the agricultural Zone um per state
statute um property owners are allowed to build um more and larger than May what may be allowed normally agricultural buildings and it's in the quotations there because they need to be for agricultural uses um those are all defined by State Statute what that means what they can store in there they can't
just store unrelated things or work have workshops or other things it needs to be an agricultural purpose um but that's all determined at the time of the actual permit for the building um that's just something that can be considered when thinking about this rezone request of Zone Ro residential do we Zone it back
or not to this agricultural Zone um I the applicant is present right there yep the applicant is present in the room right now um but other than what's laid out in the report we have a draft ordinance um approving the rezone um as these are an ordinance
because you're amending the zoning map and I'm available for any additional questions that you might have related to this application and we will be need to open a public hearing for this one as well okay thank you thank you so before we start the public hearing I
do just want to talk about my um reasoning that I was thinking of um recusing myself from this because um as you all know we have Farmstand and Troy Slater and Lori uh they sell their honey at our Farm Stand so I feel I have
somewhat of a conflict of interest but after listening to Matt I mean whether this property is zoned agricultural or residential really doesn't matter much to me um so I I don't think it's a big enough thing that I need to recuse myself on
this okay so with that we'll open the public hearing and first of all anybody who would like to talk about this zoning um that is not uh Troy or Lorie Slater if you could come up please we'll talk about your concerns and then we'll
answer them and if there's no one then uh Troy or Lor could you come on up all right hey I State my name yes please trce Slater and your and your address for the record
22206 dur Street okay is there anything that you want to talk uh to tell the commission about the reasons that you're wanting to reson this we're planning on putting up some
new buildings and there one is quite large right now um it'll be right around 8,000 square ft um with I am zoned by the
County Agricultural Homestead just the city has me Z own res residential so we're not changing anything with the county or the state all we're doing here is changing
it with the city so I can put up agricultural buildings now which I don't see any problems with uh that here since farming is basically
my all my income right now so is there any questions okay so you guys have any no but in general I just would say that whenever something gets changed to agricultural in the city it seems like a win for the city from my
perspective and so yeah you intend to use the buildings as agricultural like the yes like the ordinance says so yes that's that's exactly what it'll be because the other thing is too is the loan situation on this building is going to go through the farm Ser Service
Agency and I haven't approached them yet but I don't dual zoning might not be a good deal when I approach them on it how many acres is the site my site yeah it's uh it's just a shy under 29 it used to
be a little bit under 31 until everything got resurveyed and then the taxes went up after they resurveyed so I didn't have to pay taxes on the ditches well I just raised the taxes after they [Laughter]
Reser oh how that worked Brian did you have anything no okay all right uh I don't either I'm going to have some questions for uh Matt and Kendrick
so I think we're we're good um we'll just close the public hearing then and we'll have a little discussion and I do have a question maybe Matt will know or Kendra will know about um so how easy it is it really to
change the the zoning because you know I was told we were in a very similar position when we started our little Odyssey about 12 years ago and and I was told it was almost impossible to do that to to have what was called I think was a
text Amendment um to zoning and that you know if even if the city council approves it that it's going to have to go to the Met Council and then it was difficult for the Met Council to do it so I'm just wondering what your opinion is on that
so the Met Council doesn't review zoning uh map amendments or zoning text amendments but they do review the uh land use plan that's in the comprehensive plan plan mhm and so um this property is uh not proposing to
change the land use designation which is rural residential and um I didn't put the land use map in the slideshow um uh T the city has discretion in the zoning
map Amendment so I wouldn't worry about the Met counsel or anybody else for this I do think that you do have a high level of discretion in reviewing map amendments we said that in the staff report comp plan amendments you have an even higher level of discretion so I
don't know your particular circumstance and then text amendments we really need to be careful about because it affects everyone in this case what we're really doing is expanding this um a Zone that's behind him to include him so I think if
this was not a it would be a different recommendation from staff but really this is just expanding this agricultural Zone that's already there does that make sense it does actually okay that was just a little technicality that I I just wanted to
make sure that we didn't kind of go through the whole processes and then all of a sudden there was a Big Bam at the end yeah no good question okay any discussion no um I like how caner put it it looks like we're just expanding in an
agricultural Zone it's if it was all by itself a different story but this is um it makes sense I think I think so and we did get a letter or a letter or email
whatever of um support from Naomi Benjamin that was nice to see yep if it looks like a firm and Walks Like A firm it's a firm they could have said that 12 years ago all
right nothing I have nothing to add okay anyone want to make a motion yes I'd like to make a motion based on the applicant submission the contents of this report public testimony and other evidence available to the Planning Commission that we recommend approval of the request to resol the
property located at 22206 Durant Street Northeast from RR rural residential to a agricultural fabulous motion is there a second second okay any more discussion if not all in favor say I I
and opposed so that motion passes okay we've come to the end of our public hearings and everything um is there anything that you want to talk with us about or there's okay um I understand that we
just had a resignation from the Planning Commission so do you know where we are at with people um with applications first of all Madam chair and commission members mattl City administrator um we had a resignation come in yesterday evening uh
for the council meeting for Diana Sanger she due to personal reasons wasn't able to commit any longer on the commission and so we uh brought that forward in kind of A hurried motion because we want to make sure to get the applications out there and and if you folks know people that are interested in serving on this
be sure to reach out to them and recruit them um and uh and then once those people come in the next planning meeting you'll have the opportunity to interview them make your recommendations that'll then go to council and that'll be the fastest route to try and get people on boarded so you can operate with a full
commission it's a little dicey when you're sitting at four and the quum is four right and definely and you're kind of going through through the flu season so it's it's one of those type of things so yeah so do we have some applications from we have some interest I'm not sure if we have formal applications as of yet
we have some interests though so and so where are we notifying the public of those openings uh they'll be notified on the website I think might be on the reader board as well and then general you know people reaching out exactly um I know that there's some interest from people who have applied in the past and
there's a new individual I think they ran for Council that might be interested uh as well so if they submit we can we can consider them but until we get that formal application it's it's heay okay and the other thing is my term as
chairperson is um kind of up um but I I'm wondering if we should just continue for just a little bit to till we get fully staffed or if you guys want to start talking about a chairperson I think we should continue
as as we are AB I agree at least for a time or two are you okay with that sure okay okay any further questions no thank you you very much okay is there a motion to dis to
adjourn motion to adjourn second all right all in favor say I I and opposed we are adjourning okay thank you