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All right, welcome everyone to the special meeting. Roll call school board members, everyone here. Larson's still in Iceland. So, we have a quorum and we keep going. 4.0 is to approve the agenda. I'll move to approve. >> I'll second.

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>> Any questions or discussion on the agenda? >> Okay. All those in favor of approving the agenda say I. >> I. Any oppose? Motion carries. 5.0 is discussion with action. >> Go ahead. >> I was going to say if I can just kind of

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give a little overview before um let Rob uh weigh in here. I just wanted to kind of outline a few things. Number one um is to uh first of all make sure everyone has the same documents. You you should have I should have copied everyone. It's

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going to be two-page backtoback. Um which we'll talk about in a little bit. should also have a I'm going to call it a tax impact and again um just so everyone's aware the tax impact was generated prior to this goaround. So

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we'll talk about that as we go through at least to give if you're interested uh you know looking at the different scenarios an idea of where we would be at. Um what we need to do tonight and just so everyone's on the same page is whatever you decide to do to direct myself along

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with Nexus to file the appropriate paperwork because this review and comment if there's any type of building has to go in has to have a signature which you need me to do or someone to do. And so that's that's kind of what where we're at. If we choose to do nothing that would be a different

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conversation. Um there's three things in front of us for the most part. Number one is the operating levy, which for the most part is $300 a kid, generate roughly 600,000 a year. We um the only guarantee or assurance we've talked about is the the leaison officer. Um the

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second question is the the building bond, if you will, for I'm going to say the major three major buildings or the three flood buildings to have HVAC. And again, we listed last time. The only question there is, do we go with the 24 million or the 26.4? 4 and we'll talk

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about that you you know as we go through and decide if there is a question three or not. Question three then um is the one for the most part we're here to um look at or or redisuss or discuss. Um you had instructed us to go back kind of

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trim things as much as possible if at all possible. And so before I turn it over to um Nexus um when you look at the diagrams you'll see we kind of went from eight rooms meaning classrooms down to six. And again, I'm I'm going to point at Sierra. I went and met with her.

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Again, not talking preschool, but looking at the other rooms to make sure we would have enough space to accommodate whether you went up a grade up a section in each grade or not. And again, with the modifications of like a discovery area, adding a few small

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resource areas, we felt we could. So, that's why it dropped from eight rooms down to six. And again realizing there's not a ton of expansion room for preschool, but again we think over time we can make it um make it work depending on whatever model you choose. So with

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that I um there there was an error and and Rob will talk about on one of the diagrams pictures um and so I'm going to leave that for Nexus to um talk about and we will um have conversation and go from there. So Rob, can you hear us?

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>> I can. Can you hear me? >> Yep. You're good to go. >> Brilliant. All right. Can everybody see the presentation? >> Yep. >> Perfect. Let me

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blow this up. All right. Uh thank you very much for giving us an opportunity to talk tonight. Uh just uh you know and with me of course is Hans. we've uh you know, of course, you've seen Hans a number of times before and uh as my technical expert will be talking through uh the varying options that uh we were

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asked to uh pull together for you. And so again, as Kevin mentioned, um important tonight, you know, and whether you want to do it now or if you want to do it at the end, whatever you think is best. But ultimately if the board could provide uh Superintendent Grover the uh

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approval to review and then finally submit to the state uh the review and comment uh that document is uh due on I believe it's July 6th. So uh ultimately whatever decisions are um decided tonight Hans and our technical team will

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go through and create that review and comment document that Kevin will review and ultimately will submit to the state. Uh question two also as Kevin mentioned confirmation of is it $24 million or

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$26.4 million. The tax impact for both is $211 a year on a on the average or what was the average $300,000 home when we did this work last. Um, and the focus there of course would be the prioritized

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items surrounding safety and security and infrastructure as presented by the task force and laid out by the uh community survey results. This last piece is the potential question three um the scoping and the uh the changes that

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were um were requested. And so uh we have four different uh options some of which you've seen, some of which are new per your request. And uh if you know, Hans, if you don't mind, I'd love to have you step through each of these.

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>> Sure. So, um I apologize for not being able be there the last time to go through some of this, but um this is uh you know, the um the option where we're remodeling new heights and adding the prek. Um we were bumping second grade up

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to South Point and then from there bumping uh fifth grade up to the middle school and um and their associated remodel at the middle school. Uh this is assuming South Point's a no cost change to uh move the fifth graders out and

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move the second graders in. Obviously, the cost uh comes in at new heights where we and on the the very west wing, we're converting what are now six classrooms into four larger classrooms. They're they're the traditional 1,200

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square ft uh larger classrooms for uh for the the little ones. Um at this time we would include a dedicated restroom and some storage um between them. Um so that you get your traditional um again rightsiz room for prek uh in that same

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ring. There's already two rooms that are are like that. So now you've got six total rooms. Um as part of this be because those two rooms are getting remodeled uh significantly. We'd at least uh try and get the finishes to match in those four remaining rooms. Um,

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also we would, um, we talked about adding a special education room in the LMC or the library at that time. Uh, that would help that group tremendously. And then those, uh, old discovery centers, if you're not familiar with the buildings, are are heavily underutilized. Uh, so at this time,

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obviously, we'd do it, uh, we'd update the, um, that preK wing. We'd also do it to the um to the kindergarten and the first grade wing. So that's the extent of the remodel at New Heights. At the middle school, again, we're providing a

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whole new grade here. Uh so there's a little bit more uh working around uh where there a lot of underutilized space in that building right now. There's six science rooms. Uh they we don't need six full classrooms. So or excuse me, six

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full chemistry style classrooms. Uh so all six would get remodeled. uh two would get uh remodeled into age appropriate uh seventh and eighth grade. Uh two would get remodeled into age appropriate uh for for uh science fifth and sixth grade. Um and when I say that,

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you know, science at at those lower levels isn't the full-blown chemistry. Usually it's it's it's the geology and the life science. So we still have hard tops for projects, but we don't have that intense chemistry um uh cabinetry and and and lab work. And then the two

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remaining uh would be turned into just general education classrooms, whether that's math, language, uh social studies, um that's to be determined, but they'd be just traditional classrooms. So that's how we're able to um largely how we're able to get um another grade

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in this room. Um also the robotics room is underutilized. We got the opportunity to remodel that into um special education and with the early childhood moving out of that lunchroom which is on the um on on this plan right um we can

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turn that into some additional um um gym space. You know, uh the principal there was a little concerned about the gym units having another grade there. So that allows us to have um a multi-purpose area for another gym unit. Um the the the last kind of minor thing

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there again is is with the additional students making sure we can have the proper throughput on um on the cafeteria. So there's a need for some additional um uh walk-in cooler freezer space for storage. So we've got that accounted for >> and all the and we've talked about this

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you know every time we've been together ultimately uh this is your project um the design work that you've seen here uh came through discussions ideiation with your principles uh with your special ed team um as well as your preschool team

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looking for how to make best use of space and if we're fortunate enough where something were to move forward to referendum and ultimately the public supports whatever it is that goes to referendum. What you see here is just for budgeting. It's not design. And so

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we would engage user groups to talk through each individual area to make sure that it best fits what their needs are within budget. Right? Hans. >> Yep. >> Okay. So this next option, this is the

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one that Rob was uh uh we attempted to present last time. Um there was no graphic put together. The genesis of this one was we were asked to put together a a lesser scope, a lesser cost option. Uh in a vacuum, we put together,

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you know, we we we kept the eight classrooms but took the multi-purpose out. Rationale at that time was thinking you don't have the multi-purpose as part of that remodel. Um and then taking that um uh taking the student services area out. So this is was about a 20,000

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square foot um addition. Uh it it worked out to 11.9 million. Uh we should probably talk u total cost when we include construction inflation it would be $12.5 million. So that's the one that

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Rob had put together. [gasps] Rob, any more comments on that before we we we move on to the next one? Yeah. And >> go ahead, Kevin. >> What I was going to say just to be clear, and this is the one there was the mistake on last time, you know, that there was a drawing, and again, there

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was not, I guess, supposed to be, but I just want the board and everyone aware that the drawing that you looked at with your sheet from last time is not the correct drawing. It was eight classrooms, not supposed to have a multi-purpose room, even though it said it had a

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multi-purpose room. Just I just want everyone on the same page as we go into discussion here. >> So the so the one that we looked at last time I want to make this really clear said including a multi-purpose rooms student support areas main entrance with check-in area for 11.9 million. That's

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not true. >> Correct. So, so based on that, we had a chance to get with Kevin and the Kevin with the principles to identify what is that lesser square footage, lesser scope is acceptable. And and this is when we

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started finally going on the road with six preK rooms, including the multi-purpose room, um including a little bit of student services. Uh not much really. It's just that main office area. uh this is this is really the the least amount of uh square footage and

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scope um that that that um the principles thought was acceptable for the addition at either building. So uh that turns out to be about $21,500 square ft. Um that's 12.5 million. Uh again, this is six prek rooms at the

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traditional square 1,200 square foot um um area with the individual restrooms and storage for each uh multi-purpose area where the little kiddos can get their wiggles out. Um and then that main entrance um so that we got a proper check-in. This one includes a curb cut.

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It's a little bit hard to see to the left of the the graphic, but this includes some costs to uh provide a curb cut so we get some cars lined up. Now, we need this is very preliminary. We got to work with the city and confirm they can okay with this. The alternative alternative would be to add a second

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exit to the existing north parking lot. Uh restripe that lot and have a uh a drive lane through there with some drop off. So, uh really roughly the same same same cost with either option here. So this is this is this is really the the

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option the lesser scope lesser cost option uh or or alternative to u the remodels that I talked about with uh the first slide. So, the from last week to this week,

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um, dropping two preK classrooms, but adding the multi-purpose room, it went from 11.9 to 12.5. Is that correct? >> Yep. Yep. It's a It's an addition of about 1,500 square ft. That's how that works out.

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>> So, what's the price tag on the one you showed us last week? You have that? I >> think that was in Q. >> No, that is right. It's just eight rooms with no multi-purpose. And you know what I'm saying? That's >> But if there was eight rooms with a

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multi-purpose, what would the price take be on that? >> That's the >> How do you cut out two rooms and go up? >> Well, no. I I want to know if you gave us what you showed us last week, what would the price be on it?

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So, Hans, >> with this, if you were to add a add that multi-purpose room, >> yeah, >> the square footage at the per square foot cost that you're showing, and I know the the multi-purpose space is a bit less than the classrooms that have the the washrooms in it.

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Um, but roughly, how many square feet is that multi-purpose room? >> 6,200 square ft. >> Okay. So just taking roughly $550 per square foot at 6200 square feet

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>> 3.4 million >> correct 3.4 million >> and that's what >> and that was the that was the missing that was the delta >> and that and that closer matches what [clears throat] the original report had that's what we we had presented months

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ago when we originally presented. >> Yeah. you know, and the so the graphic that we looked at last week was a was the graphic that, you know, as Hans mentioned was presented earlier in our in our conversations

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during the during the final report. that uh that graphic was uh erroneously incorporated into the presentation that you saw and ultimately um it's

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basically the footprint was similar. The big miss was the multi-purpose room that was the and and I own it. You know, I I own the relationship with the district. I own the the connectivity with the Nexus. I missed it and I apologize.

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Um, I can appreciate uh the leaning back in your chair, scratching your head, trying to figure out what the heck's going on. Um, at the end of the day, what we're trying to do is make sure that we have the proper information tonight.

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Um, you know, from this particular slide without the graphic, you know, looking at the, you know, what would have been this, oh, what was it? $16 million roughly.

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Um when we reduced from eight classrooms to six plus the uh the two bathrooms that were in between those two classrooms and the associated um perceived unnecessary

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um uh additional support space uh workspace that gets us into these conversations which does include the multi-purpose room and the site civil work as it

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relates to the approach uh optionally either on the west where parents could come in, drop off or come in through potentially the the west, drop off, load up and then head to the north. That

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would take away parking as Hans noted. Um but ultimately it would be the uh it would lead to this the budget that you see. I guess I have a real issue with this big time because last week we had a

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conversation and you had said nine maybe 10 million and now all of a sudden you threw three more million dollars on this project in 7 days. That's a huge number. >> Mhm. >> When you're talking about taxpayers dollars and so there's a lot of frustration with with me personally, but

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I'm sure there's others up here as well. >> Sure. that you can't just do that in a week and then all of a sudden change things and then we're supposed to make a decision tonight and all of a sudden we got a three more million dollars on this thing. >> That's more taxpayers dollars and starting to lose a lot of trust in you

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guys because of that. I can Josh I can appreciate what you're saying and certainly when we were talking about uh if we were to reduce the two classrooms and the two bathrooms and some of the other space that we were talking about um given where the price

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was and what I uh understood the scope to be um looking at proportionally at a square you know on a per square foot standpoint led me to that roughly $9 million um and we're we're telling you tonight.

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That was a that was an error. Didn't know about the multi-purpose room not being there. And I own it. And I can appreciate where you're coming from from a trust perspective because ultimately I pride myself on the trust that I build with the boards and the administrations and the communities that I that I work

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with. Um certainly Hans and I and our team um had uh a lot of conversations around what happened. How do we how do we do different and how do we convey this to the board especially given the tight

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turnaround we have. Um I totally understand where you're coming from Josh and everybody else who feels like you and frankly I'm sure everybody including Kevin and the administration all feel the same way. um we have the information that we feel um

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that is accurate tonight and apologize for the conversation we had last week. I don't I don't know how to do anything different than apologize and share with you that we are comfortable very comfortable with the budgets that we have especially when we

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triangulate the data with the per square foot values that you see um they fall in line with you know where the market's at and the other projects that we've been recently especially around your area. >> Rob, this is Matt. I got a question for

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you. Um the from last week the 11.9 number for the addition on South Point um going from that I don't know I know we talked about all this other stuff but what the purpose you're missing but I guess my question is um we had in that

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addition we had a bus loop and a uh an additional so thank you um from that addition. We we had a bus loop and a parking lot included. The the

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addition that we're looking at for New Heights does not have either of those. Can you just confirm was the cost of those removed from the new addition at New Heights? >> So, the parking lot was not part of that scope we discussed last week. And and also, please keep in mind the 11.9 we

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were looking at did not include construction inflation. >> Okay. Um, and Hans, correct me if I'm wrong, but it I believe it did include that bus loop. Is that fair? Hans, >> it did did not at New Heights. No,

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>> not at New Heights. At South Point. Okay, >> thank you. >> At South Point. It was right, Hans. It was there. The bus the bus loop. >> Yes. >> Yes. Well, we're we're if we're going to if you're going to do that same addition

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at New at South Point, we would have to include that bus loop and >> but not the parking. >> Correct. >> Yep. And that was the Does that help, Matt? >> Yeah. I just wanted to confirm that that was taken out taken out of the estimate. Thank you.

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>> Yep. All right. >> And that's a kind of a good segue. This is really, this is the last slide. It's the same um it's it's roughly the same layout on uh installed on the south side

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of uh South Point for consideration. Again, rather than doing that uh curb cut, we're doing the bus loop here. It's a little bit more money. Um I think it's $100,000. It's It's not negligible, but you know, if it I don't if if South

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Point is the right place to do it, it seems like that shouldn't be a deal deal breaker. And so, all in all, that's the as Hans mentioned, those are the estimates and the floor plans uh we were asked to pull together. Um,

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happy to go back and forth uh between slides, answer any additional questions you have. >> Questions do we have for financially? It looks like it's pretty it's not really advantageous to move the

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addition to to keep it at South Point and not go to new heights. It's roughly the same price. It looks like 13.2 versus 13.3. Is that correct? >> Correct. You're reading that right. >> So, it wouldn't make sense to swap the

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schools then financial I mean it wouldn't gain us anything. The the only thing it gains you is there there may be more flexibility if you had any issues at South Point, you know, having them four grades, but I mean financially it's not they're the same building for the most part. I mean, it's

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very cost, >> but we could just say we're just going to have preschool at South Point just leave everything else the same also. >> Doesn't necessarily >> that could be an option as well, right? >> Correct. I mean that way all the schools stay the same and preschool is just at South Point

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>> and they have a spot and that's the main goal, right? Preschool together in one spot. >> Be nice if we had more room at New Heights than we do at South Point and that would make sense, >> right? >> We have more room in South at South Point. It disrupts less in the

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neighborhoods. >> What does that do to the student services? Does uh prek use the same student services as K through second? >> As far as playground or >> Well, like um >> special ed? Yes. >> Well, special ed's going to like right now preschool gets it special ed or the

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most of it through the ASC eventually. It could be through us. I mean, we would staff that no different than we do a teacher >> like share new [clears throat] South Point and like for the >> No. I mean for >> no I don't see that being um a deal

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breaker one way or the other at least personally you know again those teachers eventually being with you know their colleagues going up would be ideal eventually you know just like K wants to be with next to one wants to be next to two you know eventually there's a break you know

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because we can't get everyone in but um getting them all in one place is a major goal you know and I guess the the piece being out there and again I throw it out there. We have options in front of us. We also have the option, [clears throat] you know, not to do anything with preschool right now. You know, again, I

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know it's a priority and it's been a priority, but if the time is not right, you know, for a separate question, it is again an always an option. >> It's hard because the cost of construction is not going to go down. That's the hard part. >> 3 million in

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>> Wow. Um, I guess I would >> That's hard. It's hard to stomach, I guess. >> Yeah, I would prefer to have the prek with the new heights crew. >> So would I. >> It just seems like it would make more

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sense, but I don't know. How do you guys feel? >> I think it's to me it's fine either way. I I get the space issue cheaper anyway. Cheaper anyways. It's just an option

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>> or again you you know if you choose to you know put it on South Point and you do preschool for time being it doesn't mean five years down the road you couldn't then you know at some point do a switch of grades >> you know I mean they're elementaryaries both of them they're not going to be different size you know you'd have to

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you know put K12 over there you know but I'm just saying it doesn't have to be done instantly if down the You just want to make sure what we do is the right thing to do long term. You know, this is again that's everyone's

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crystal ball. >> There's definitely be challenges no matter what we decide and what wherever it goes. There's going to be challenges, but we're just hoping that we can get these people in the right spot together. >> Yeah. Yeah. And if we keep them at if we if we put the addition at South Point

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and keep three through five there, then you're you're going from, you know, you started preschool at South Point, then you're going back to New Heights, and then back to South Point, whereas [clears throat] be easier to transition if you kept them they started at New Heights, stayed there for those four years, and then

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jumped to South Point for three years. It's one less switch. >> Can I go on to 5.1 and then we can start talking action because I think that we Well, >> we're getting into some of the >> at some point. Right now, the only item we have is the one item. >> Well, so I mean

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>> if you want talking like we're making the addition and so I think I need to get to the point where we're making the addition. >> Okay. But at some point you're going to have to make the exact motion. you know, if someone's ready to do that. As far as you're doing, and I'm just giving you an example, you know,

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>> numbers. >> We're doing one, two at 24 million and three at what or yeah, you know, um >> well, I can open it up discussion >> whenever then we'll make a motion as a direction.

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>> Okay. 5.1 is a discussion during the operation levy farm. So I want to just go through these because I don't think we have question on most of them. So

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number one operating levy 300 per student generating approximately 600,000. Any questions with that one as a question number one >> standalone. Yep. Number two, bond referendum not to exceed 24 million for safe and secure

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entrances along current office area reconfigurations, mechanical system upgrading, commissioning, electrical system upgrades as major areas congruent with facility assessment and community survey recommendations. Or modification to this question could

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generate 26.4 million and keep the tax impact constant across the 20 years at approximately 211 annually on a $300,000 home. I will have Kevin talk about how that works. >> So if you if you recall and if you look at your sheet and and just we've talked

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about a $300,000 house all along. So if you look at question two, it's $211. [clears throat] If you recall when Ellers presented after 10 years there would be a tax drop. Okay? And they often do that. So to generate the 24 million because

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something falls off in 10 years falls off. >> Yeah. So if you wanted to have it at 26.4 million, the tax stays at 211 for that same house for 20 years instead of and I'm just guessing maybe it's 180 in 10 years. You know, it drops from 211 to

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180 or 170. So we had talked at one time that you could go, you know, this third option where we'd say it's 211 for 20 years. And that gave us 5.1 on the third question, which it's really generating 7.5. You see what I'm getting at? It's

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just a matter of what you want that third question to look like compared to the second question. >> Third questions all sorts of >> correct. Correct. So the question for number two is do we

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want it to keep it constant at 211 for 20 years? Really that's what we want >> right or do we let it drop down after 10 >> and then just have the 24 million instead of the 26 >> instead of generating 26.

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I I guess I feel like we need [clears throat] to let it drop down after 10 years because I think the people that voted for that referendum wanted it to end after was it 20 years and we're basically extending that longer, right?

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Yes and no. Something's dropping off and something's adding on. Yeah, I mean it's anytime you do a new bond or or you know that's the reality is >> well and to Kevin's point you know the the reality is is 10 years from now with that debt falling off you likely would

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replace it with something the question is 10 years from now with construction inflation whatever you might do later is going to be you know to Josh's earlier point that much more expensive versus doing an additional 2.4

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million today and doing more infrastructure, those high priority items that we couldn't otherwise do. I guess I I've went back and forth on this because I, you know, if we're going to ask our community um for more for our

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schools and stuff like that, um watching that go down and watching your taxes go down a little bit may generate more votes, understanding that, hey, we're going to get a drop off, but at the same time, I understand construction costs and our value and our dollar is not

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going to be greater than it is right now as far as that extra 2 million. And I guess what you know the way we were looking at it before would be whatever your question three was was to take 2.4 million off of it.

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>> You know instead of saying say you go with whatever 13.2 million you go off of that already. Yeah. >> Do we want to do we want to talk at all about pulling some of this some of these items from the from number two out of there and look at maybe doing a force

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referendum for like HVAC for instance. >> Um >> I 100% do not want to do that is because it's got to go >> review and comment and >> six. >> Well the July 6 is when needs to be in. >> We start doing that then we can get it

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even on election. >> Okay. To me, I think if we even if that drops down somewhere else, it's going to go up. Like, we're not going to end up getting a break. Like, when do we get a tax break? There's it's just going to go up somewhere else. I think if we at least know what'sing constant and we can

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use it in a good way, then I think keep it constant. >> I guess my thought is, and again, there is no right or wrong crystal ball would be to leave the 24 million as a standalone question and then do preschool on its own. And I'm just calling preschool. It affects other

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things but and let's see where that that lands you know whether it's keep it >> I got a sorry can go >> you said the 24 don't keep it constant >> let it drop >> I guess I'm just thinking you know if there's enough

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>> because we're going to be asking for more for preschool >> can >> well I mean that's reality so I have a question for you and I don't know if we can do it this way could you go in with the question two being 24 million Okay. And then if the preschool, whatever that

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is, whatever we decide that number, if the preschool passes, then that one goes to 26. >> No, because you have to you have to put the amount you're asking the taxer for each question. And so if because you have the right to vote yay or nay for a question, you know, or not. So we have

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to set the the value. >> Um >> it can't be. >> Now that now >> the only the only caveat, Josh, would be if you set 26.4 4 million [clears throat] >> and part of that would be to do some of the work for you know some if if question three doesn't pass you still

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have that other 2 you know 4 million >> but >> now the question becomes what modification because you're not doing preschool >> right >> you know and that's where you know >> does that money have to be you like you know how we have certain money that [clears throat] used for certain things

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>> the review and comment is where we have to write what we're using it for and >> but if it's not going towards that question three because question three doesn't pass then we have this money what can we do with it >> that would be Rob and Hans on how gray they can be you know because obviously there's other needs in your long-term

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plan do you understand what he's >> Yeah and so ultimately when we get to writing the ballot questions both for uh question two and then ultimately if there is a question three um you know there needs to be some specificity but

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you know where the bond council makes you know their money ultimately is providing enough flexibility so that if you decided to um we go to bid for instance, we come in better than what uh we anticipated from

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a budget standpoint. We don't want to be, you know, have our hands tied on what those additional freed up funds can be used for, you know, because ultimately they're your dollars and you're probably not going to find additional dollars in that amount to do

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additional things later. And so long and the short is we'll make sure that working with bond counsel that you know you have the flexibility that you need. Um there's always and it's by statute a [clears throat] a required part of every ballot question. Really there's two

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parts that um ultimately this will go towards uh improving uh school sites and um school sites and assets and that provides in of itself a bunch of flexibility that you otherwise

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wouldn't have through some of the specificity that's um generally required. So long and the short, I'm confident that uh ultimately you'll have that flexibility whether um if if question three passes and you choose to take that 2.4 million and use it to buy

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down the preschool. And so instead of the you know 13.2 that we see on this slide, you know, we drop it down to, you know, whatever the reducing it by 2.4, what is that? 10.8. Um we could go to referendum with 10.8 anticipating we're

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going to use the 2.4. for as Kevin mentioned to buy down the preschool as long as we have it worded appropriately. And if question three fails also, as Kevin noted, we'd be able to use that for additional infrastructure work. >> Does that help? That was a lot of words. >> Yeah.

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>> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> All right. We want to talk number three, then go back to number two. Does that make more sense? >> Maybe. >> Sure. Well, >> yeah. What number to put on the

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>> Right. If we're not doing anything with number three, then right >> you >> Yeah, let's go. >> Okay. On referendum regarding preschool programming number A, number A, letter A. um model new heights in CMS to

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accommodate preK grade 1 new heights uh grade 2 two through four at South Point 5 through8 at CMS 9 through 12 senior high a cost not to exceed 7.5 million so that's your reconfiguration no add-on

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>> This one's eight. So, it's an eight. >> Oh, yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. That's right. That's right. Yep. >> C. >> So, that's this. >> So, that's what we were shown last week, but not what we were shown last week. >> C. Addition to new heights to make a prek grade 2 building at cost not to

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exceed 13.2 2 million includes construction inflation, six classrooms, a multi-use space, and a cutout to help with drop off. >> That's a new height. >> D addition to South Point to make it a

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prek grade 2 building and new heights of grade 35 building at a cost not to exceed 3.3 million. >> 13 >> 13.3 >> Oh, sorry. 13 13.3 million includes construction inflation, six classrooms, a multi-pace rem. [clears throat]

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They don't have to flip-flop. It's just an addition at South Point. >> Yep. Correct. And the only caveat you'd have there would be any type of playground. Yeah. You know, if if you didn't flip-flop of, you know, and again, they don't have a huge playground now, but again, just throwing it out there.

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>> And E is not to proceed with any. So, A reconfiguration, B eight classrooms, no multi-use space, C addition at new heights, six classrooms, multi-use space, D addition at cell point, six classrooms, multi-use

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space. E, no discussion. >> We need a multi-use space, right? We kind of establish that. >> Yes. >> Right away. Right. >> You have to have it for the teachers. The teachers need a break. >> So, we take that one off. >> B's out no matter. already. >> Yeah.

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>> Also with um C or D, they get a new playground. It says on the on the big sheet, not on the computer because if you look for the Westing Edition at New Heights, it has a new PK or preK playground added into it, but it doesn't

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say that on the computer. Oh, and then also with the the other addition or the additional week >> that's the one gone >> flip-flop which we wouldn't [clears throat] say playground for third through fifth. So I point that out. >> Yeah. Yeah. Saying they don't have to

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flip flop. >> Yeah. But if we like where does you know but it would be a new playground essentially at both. >> Does anybody not want to do anything? Can we wipe out E or does anybody want to do stuff? I feel like we need to do something which >> I'm good without I'm good with getting

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ready to eat >> because we just saw these numbers today this afternoon and I'm don't want to make the wrong choice. >> So E's off and B's off. >> So now we're reconfiguring our additions addition.

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>> I'm just going to say I don't like A. I think it creates chaos and it doesn't give us any more space. >> I agree. I don't like it. Um, I agree. >> Anybody like a >> not pulling Kevin? They're just >> No, I'm I'm not saying anything. I'm not saying

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>> I I I there are things that I that I like about A, but I I for the price tag compared to a new addition. I would rather just do a new addition. Yeah, I like the ba I like some of the things that they like I like the bathroom situation [clears throat] in the middle school changing that up and like I do like some of the changes and

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I'm sad that we won't get any of them but I >> I don't know. I think it just kicks the can down the road. I think we're in the same boat in five years talking about space. >> Yeah, that's what I'm worried about. >> Now we're talking is you said you don't like a either. >> Yeah. Yeah.

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>> So now We were talking about new heights point. >> I think it would be easier to keep it at new heights [clears throat] or to to to build it at new heights. Um it would be more congestion. >> Another question.

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>> Yep. So, with this, wherever this goes, um, and this is an administrative question. Where does Laura go? >> Laura Laura goes >> here in this office. Yeah, >> she just goes where the preschool goes. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I just want to make sure. No,

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there there's >> just [clears throat] >> No, I get >> preschool at one building and >> is that would that would that be where that office >> here? Here's the honest question. There's a there to have a home for a person, a space there. There is space in

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there. If you notice, there's two offices. We don't have an assistant. Whether you ever had a community ed, what I'm going to call assistant or office, you know, if it expands, that would be where they're housed. As far as long-term, you know, and again, we haven't got that far in discussion, you

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know. Um, like right now, preschool does their own lore is not in each building where they're accepting kid, you know, drop off. Once the day starts, I would guess whatever building it's on, we only have one entryway yet, you know, [clears throat] a locked secure entrance because again, she's part-time right

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now. You know, she's communicated. She's not always there. We don't have an assistant. So, I mean, those details have not necessarily all been worked out. But like I say, she would have a home, if that's the right way to say it, wherever this this configuration is with

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that group. But to say, you know, there's an administrator in that wing all the we haven't got that, >> right? You know, >> and I understand that >> like this little reception and office area. >> And again, where that lands in this drawing is, you know, a couple of us talked earlier that's all at the

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>> Yeah. >> th000 foot level, 10,000 foot level right now. >> Are we okay with doing preschool drop off on their own addition then if it's not a secure entrance? If >> secure would be >> No, it's it's just like it is now. they let people in, you know, like at the

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middle school on that end, but once [clears throat] the day starts, it's locked. That's no different than any of our buildings, you know, we have, you know, bus loops open, you know. >> Um, >> but like I say, once the day is going, you know, like in, you know, middle

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school, whatever, you know, there South Point, New Heights, there's one entrance, you know. So, if I if I may, and again, I'm we're going to support you no matter, you know, what you choose. Um, just a couple questions I'd love for you to to noodle

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if you go to referendum with either one of these additions, which by the way is the right thing to do, but is your public going to support it? And so, ultimately, the question I'd ask you to noodle is if this were to fail,

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because let me show you something here. when we talked, we did have this in the survey preschool 142 14.2 million um addition with all the reasons we've talked about and this was the result. And so when you

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look at the dark blue being staff, the light blue being parents, and then 70% of your community being the purple, we it it becomes it becomes challenging for this to

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to go. And again, the addition is the right thing to do, but your public will only support what they ultimately believe in. And again, we're going to support you no matter what and your decision. I'm happy

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to, you know, looking forward to seeing what how things come about. Um, I just ask you to consider this as you're having your conversation. And if it does fail, does that mean you keep preschool in three buildings? Does that mean that

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regardless without then the the renovating that we could have potentially done at the 7.5 you don't have that but do you put preschool then back in new heights and still move second to South Point and still move fifth to the middle school.

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So that was my mantra coming into this Rob was okay. I want to do the right thing and the right thing in my gut is to like this is why I haven't said too much. I've just been listening like the right thing in my gut is to add on. It's it's just

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common sense, right? And the right thing by the voters we represent is not to add on. And that's a little bit bonkers in my eyes. Um, and I was talking to a large amount of

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people this weekend on what they would support and not one of them said the reconfigure thing uh option. They all said adding on. And I talked to a large cross-section of people including farmers

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um who I can say that because I come from a line of farmers so I can look at them. >> Um and they all supported the add-on once they knew a lot of the nuances and it was really hard to come in here

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tonight and have to swallow a little bit of that knowing I have to ask for more. So, I was very prepared to come in and say it's like $20 more

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on your house payment. And now I'm like, it's like a hundred more dollars on your house payment. And that's not awesome. >> A big jump. >> But I think that we've decided as a board that's what we're going to do

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because it's the right thing to do. Perfect. >> Then we can talk about moving that 2.4 >> over >> to to the to question number three. Bring that down to 10.8. >> I think too when there's only one thing on the table to discuss. It's easier.

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How many people took that survey without really knowing or understanding what they were responding on? Do you know what I mean? >> You can plan on that all night. Well, I'm just saying public may have not spoken as clearly or loudly or >> understood as much as we, you know, like

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the survey says one thing, but >> when you start talking to people and whether they didn't get it or they didn't fill it out or they didn't understand it, that has to play into that as well. So, how many people just said no without knowing >> about it? I don't know. I don't know. Or

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>> whatever whatever is decided. >> Yeah. is then our job to go out and try and advocating >> friends who are here tonight >> to help. >> Yes, we will need it. >> I trust I trust our community. I trust

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our teachers. Um, and I think, you know, no one really wants to open up their pocketbook and and pay taxes, but when you understand that the foundation of your community is going to be your education system and understanding that where we come from, we're really hard

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workers, but we al also like to see something happen. We like to see a building. Hey, I was a part of that. You know, when we did all the remodels for the school, the high school and stuff like that, there's not one person that said, "Oh, I wish we wouldn't have done that." not one because of the additions

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that we did here. Um it's used throughout their community and and this if you get that space that's there, it's can be used and utilized different ways in that multi-purpose gym and stuff like that. And if we have that opportunity to to go that way, I think our taxpayers

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will will back us >> unique line where you know people like, oh, I'm checking German. Well, I'm farmer and teacher, right? So like [laughter] So, I get both sides of it and I really want to see this. I think it has been a

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little bit too long that we've been [clears throat] um we need a little love poured into our school district. So, >> and getting the preschool out of all of the schools will give everybody a little bit more space. >> Oh, every building will be just

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we'll fill it back up again. So now the big question, does it go to New Heights or South Point? >> Well, and then >> why can't it be what? >> Oh, and then number two, >> I I think there's enough room at either one. It on paper it looks better at South Point because

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there's so much room, but I think the room is there at New Heights. Um, it would work. It would just create a little bit more congestion in the mornings, but but but also it's going to get the other side of the school. So maybe not.

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>> But with the congestion, we could have preschool start a little bit later too or a little bit earlier, could you not? I don't know. >> I know >> like bying anything could be >> I'm never saying never. There's always options. But >> minutes, you know,

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>> you know, I mean parents. >> Say again. So start earlier. >> Just say if they started a little bit later, they'd they'd be at daycare already. I mean >> the other thing to keep in mind though and it's a little bigger because of bus

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scene because you know in town a single bus is one thing but you have kids getting on to go out of town or coming in from out of town I I mean it just the staggering times has pros and cons as it sit you know I mean um >> we'll just say figured out later. >> Yeah. Yeah. Anyway,

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>> I was just It was just a It's part of the con the talk on putting more traffic in neighborhood. >> I think matter where you put it, it's going to create more congestion, right? You got one way in. >> Yeah. >> I don't want to I was going to say something that's going to add another whole can of worms, but

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>> Well, you were on the mic. Let's go. >> Well, there should be a road between the two schools on the south end that the buses can travel on. >> Another can of worm. But that would stop the bus, you know, like the big mess of getting onto the

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Yeah, I don't know. Again, never mind. Forget I said >> I like it at New Heights better than I do South Point. South Point like we want like what if we wanted more room for football or things like that or sports, you could do that easier at South Point than you could other places. And you don't utilize a lot of space at New

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Heights right now. So instead of having it just randomly be there and have a field that we have to mow, why not utilize it? because we could always use the bigger space at South Point right now for sports or different activities that could be in the future. That's my

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choice. >> I'm in favor of being at New Heights. >> I am too. The kids at South Point, those grades use those sports fields a little more. >> And then like with the soccer club, I know that they've wanted to use and do things more. They was brought to the board.

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>> Yeah. No, they're still working different area. >> You know, that could be something that generates revenue for the district. >> I don't know. Just different ideas with the open space that could always be utilized instead of the space that's currently not being utilized. >> I don't know. But if three of them said new heights, then >> appropriate.

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>> Yeah. >> All right. >> I I honestly it's >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, we need to make a motion. >> Wait, don't we have to do number two? Number two. So number two would be 24

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million, right? Because then we're >> I would say 26.4 because if we're going to do I think we should do preschool as standalone. >> No. Would we do 26.4 and then >> it depends on >> 26.4 if it's standalone if it's >> No, it's 24 if it's standalone

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13.2 or it's 26.4 and it's >> and then bring the cost >> 10.8. >> So you can't do it the other way. You can't do 26.4 as a standalone question for both of them. And then >> well no you could do 26 stand alone and the other one stand alone but now you're even going higher. >> Okay.

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>> But you know if they all passed then you're going higher than >> I see what you're saying. Okay. >> You do [clears throat] 26.4 on two and then bring the cost down to 11.2 million on the third one. >> Yeah. [clears throat] >> 10.8 >> 10.8.

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>> That's what it did. I thought it was >> Yeah. 2.4 4 million >> off the [clears throat] >> off the right update. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yeah.

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>> And that honestly seems >> Well, it's closer to where we where we were on >> Yeah. >> last week. >> Does that make sense? Is everybody okay with that? >> Motion. Where's our friend? >> I don't even know what to say. I see

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here. >> I'm taking notes. >> So, he hasn't said much. >> He hasn't said anything. He keeps writing. >> When you said friend, I don't >> um Oh my god. >> So, will you question one operating level stand alone?

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>> So, make a motion for that one. >> Well, no. So, so what we want to do is alto together you're directing myself to work with Nexus to get the appropriate documents in for >> an operating levy of >> Okay.

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>> You want me to repeat that? >> Mhm. Or just keep going. >> Okay. Operating levy uh $300 per student. Standalone question. >> That one will include the um officer because it doesn't say it on that one, but we talked about it. We are

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going to have number two as a bond referendum not to exceed 26.4 million >> as [clears throat] stated. As stated with the reasoning. >> Yep. Stated with the reasoning in here. Yes. Number three. The bond referendum

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regarding preschool programming addition to new heights to make it a prek grade 2 building at [clears throat] cost not to exceed 10.8 million. Lynn, if I may, just and I'm sorry for interrupting the 26.4 not to exceed.

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Great. Um, ultimately when Ellers works their numbers, ultimately they have soft costs that will go on top of the uh now 10.8. >> Okay. >> And so now that it is 10.8, we don't know from

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Ellers what those soft costs are. So if if you don't mind for the if we're going to say not to exceed if you could say understanding we're saying 10.8 but without knowing what Eller's ad is to that if you could

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say not to exceed 11.5 really making it way out in left field I'm I'm sure it's only going to be I'm making stuff up 111 maybe 112. >> It's the finance piece. So >> it's the correct and and so their fees

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come on top of the 10.8 eight >> not to exceed 11.5 includes construction inflation soft costs six classrooms multi-use space and head out to help with drop off

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>> and is is three contingent on two >> I think that's why it dropped >> no standalone >> so preschool could pass and number two would >> then >> yeah if you do that then question three

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has to be the full 132. >> You see it? I'm getting We had talked about that before. Go >> two has to pass in order three to pass. >> Correct. >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I will move for that.

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>> Yeah. I don't >> second. >> Man second. I don't even know what to uh all those in favor of approving what I just asked [laughter] Kevin uh say I please >> I

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>> any oppose motion carries >> that wasn't me see thank you >> um next board of education meeting is July 13th >> hey Lynn >> yes >> July 13th at 5:30 >> have you guys u uh given Kevin

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permission to act or work with Nexus on >> that is part of the that was part of the the whole motion and second. >> Okay, good. My apologies. >> 7.0 is to adjourn the special meeting and I'll move. >> I'll second.

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>> All those in favor of adjourning say I >> I oppose. Thank you everybody. >> Have a good night. Thank you.