Hello everyone. Welcome. Um [laughter] uh it is uh Wednesday, November 19th, 2025, uh 612 p.m. I'd like to call the meeting
of the board of library trustees for East Long Meadow to order. I am Amy Paul. I'm the chair. >> Larry Bowman, secretary. Jean Senlo, trustee. >> Nancy Okconor, trustee. >> Michelle Jones, trustee.
>> Cindy Mcn, >> vice chair. >> Vice chair. >> I am vice chair. [laughter] >> Uh Katie McGonagal, library director. >> So, we have no public comments today. Uh meeting minutes from last uh the October
15, 2025 meeting. Has everyone had a chance to review? Thank you, Larry. >> Yeah, thanks. >> It's almost like I forgot that I read them because it was so soon after the last
brain there. >> Um, would anyone like to move that we accept these? >> I'll say that we accept. >> Second. >> I'll second it. >> Okay. Got to be. >> All in favor? >> I. >> None opposed. Thank you.
>> And Katie. Yeah, for approve this code. Thank you very much. I'm going to start with children's highlights. There were 36 programs, 1,083 program attendees. There were 239 reference transactions. And for passive programs, there were 336
people that participated in the scavenger hunt, 211 guesses in the guessing jar, and the art activity had 198. Um, the children's department staff have received many positive comments from the community regarding their wide range of programming. Uh, the chicks
were a huge hit once again with patrons of all ages. The children's team highlighted the chicks through programming, the scavenger hunt, guessing jar, book displays, and crafts. Uh, the chicks were adopted by a local family. >> Oh, that's interesting. >> Mhm. Really?
>> And they're doing well. [snorts] >> They are. >> One of them may be a rooster. That was the latest which was a surprise. So >> that was that was a surprise. So that one may have to be adopted by another family outside of East Long Meadow once they farm. I mean is it a farm?
>> Oh I don't know. >> I don't know. >> No. Okay. >> But it might be moving to a farm somewhere else if it is if it ends up being >> noisy too. Um, and the children's department once again partnered with Park and Wreck, uh, this time to participate in the trunk or treat
program that was held at the Pleasant View Senior Center. And the staff had a lot of fun and enjoyed celebrating the spooky season. And then down below, you can see that there's some pictures that we have of just displays and uh, one of the moving on to teen highlights. Uh, there
were 14 programs, 234 program attendees. Uh there were three passive programs with 42 participants in the passive program. Um the teen department continues and expands. Erica launched the drama lab
this month. While there was a lot of interest and many theater teens at the library, only two signed up and attended, but the two that did really enjoyed it. Um those who have already registered for the next session. Um, and the drama lab included warm-ups, improv
games, character building exercises, a mini scene performance, and it ended down with a cool, it ended with a cool down and reflection, and Erica hopes that more teens will join next time. She is going to offer it again. And then, um, Erica also offered the zombie party
on the 29th, which was a lot of fun. Uh the teen staff served pizza, punch, candy, chips, and graveyard brownies. And the room was decorated with caution tape, and bloody party supplies, and zombie posters. Uh the teens enjoyed zombie movies, uh music, board games,
switch games, crafts, and a zombie makeup station. And I think I got a couple pictures here. Yes. >> Um especially if you flip to the next page, like the makeup that they do for in the zombie parties is phenomenal. Really, they do a really great job. did a lot of this.
>> Yeah, they got a really good >> uh the teen area has a new addition uh like a it's like a bus mirror uh to provide better sight lines for the staff. Um so there's kind of like a little nook area in the teen section that's a little hard to see. So So now
you can kind of see a little bit better. >> That's great. >> So that was good and we thank DPW for getting that put up. >> Moving on to adult highlights. There were 18 programs, 196 program attendees. There were 356 reference transactions,
232 hours of study room use, 16 requests went unfulfilled, and the puzzles brought in 62 puzzle players. Uh, the adult department offered a wide variety of programming during October. The six week chair yoga series wrapped up and the participants enjoyed it so
much that staff have added another four weeks in November which already started. Um the fourth puzzle challenge was held which drew a lively crowd and the winning team finished in just 30 minutes and the second and third place teams came in only a few minutes apart. No, I
think it's like 500 or a thousand or something. It's a lot. Uh so Mora said it was a very exciting finish. Um, the mysterious Massachusetts program with the presenter Geek Gal had a great turnout and was very entertaining. And the sew and men session continued and
Linda Twefort, she's a volunteer, uh, a former friend, uh, she's fantastic. She does a lot of volunteer work here at the library and she is teaching sewing skills to six enthusiastic participants at the last session. She also helps run um, the needle work network every other
Wednesday. So, she's very helpful and she volunteers with the team programs and she's she's very talented, very kind, very funny. She's great. Um, also the town HR director, Audrey Staples, offered a four-week RAD series
uh with support from local law enforcement agents. This program was very informative and well attended, and Audre has even offered to host another round of RAD programming in the future, which we're really excited about. What does RA stand for? >> Um, you had to ask Nancy. It's like a
self-defense against like um >> Oh, okay. All right. >> Uh um like if you're out in the community and you need to like how do you protect yourself? >> Like how do you be more aware of your >> meant to be? >> Yes. I just can't remember what the acronym is and I should have put it in
there so my apologies. I should have said it but it's like a self-defense um awareness class. I was great. >> Um, so on the next page, I just have some pictures um of some of the programs, the winning or I'm assuming this is the winning
puzzlers, but they could have just been participants. >> Looks like you're winning this morning. >> Yeah. >> Um, and then I went to the retiree benefits fair. I was at the retirey benefits fair. >> And you met my husband. >> I did. And so we were chatting there and
other people were coming and going and this person who I'd never met before came up to me and said, "Oh my gosh, I just so love all of your adult craft programs." Were you standing there when she said this? >> I don't think so. >> And she's like, "I'm so disappointed. I can't make the November session. I really want to go." Christy, who has
been doing a lot of the adult crafts, it's just so lovely. And so, um, she was just so enthusiastic and was like, "I'm so bummed to miss it. I wonder if I can get like a to- go craft because all the crafts are so great. And then I was talking to Mora today and Christy had
done another craft program recently and said that was a huge hit and just were getting such positive feedback from Christy's craft. So I took a snapshot of this one here so you could see. So they made pumpkins >> and they also made clocks out of books. So, I don't know if you can see the
clock face there, but >> this is the clock face right here. >> So cool. >> Reduce, reuse, recycle. We're repurposing some of >> a book. >> Yeah. Isn't that brilliant? >> A great idea. >> What did they make the pumpkin out of
>> uh fabric? >> Fabric. That's all they got out of a sweater sleeve. I was going to say it. Great. >> That's pretty neat. No, >> I don't have to know everything. >> Super glue.
>> Yes. So, [laughter] um, so that was really nice that, you know, unprovoked when we get these compliments. It's really It is, isn't it? >> It's nice to hear. >> It is. >> So, I did pass that along to Christie. >> That's good. All right. So, updates for circulation and technical services. Um,
there were 14,344 items circulated. Uh, that's a decrease of 99. I did it again. I do this every month. I get the I always put in whatever the current month is.
>> I should just stop putting it in because I get it wrong. [laughter] >> But my number is right. It's a decrease of 99 from September, but an increase of 244 224 from October of last year. >> So that was good. >> Oh, that's good. >> Yep. Uh there were 52 new patron cards
issued. There were 1,382 items deleted from the collection and 520 items added to the collection. There were 341 reference transactions at the circ desk. There were six non- library meeting room uses. There were 107 volunteer hours and
our door count was 10,199. >> What do you do with the deleted? >> Depends. >> Just out of curiosity. >> Um, so >> like hard copy books. >> Yeah. So there is um we had a book bin installed on property. It's on the town
hall side. Bayate Books. So when our items are discarded, if they're still in decent enough condition, they go to Bay State Books and then they're able to either recycle them, reuse them, they find a way to kind of rehome some of them if they're in good enough condition to do that. Um, but if some of them are
just they're a lot of them are just literally falling apart or they're damaged. >> Long time said if they're not good enough for the public, they're not good enough for anybody else >> because you don't necessarily want to put um if something's weeded because the
content is out of date or inaccurate, you don't necessarily want to give that to somebody else. So sometimes up getting used in other ways. >> It could be a clock. [laughter] >> Yeah. So, it just kind of depends if something is really damaged >> or moldy.
>> Sometimes we have to just separate it and recycle, you know. >> Yeah. Um Cheetos is always a good raisins, you know, things like that. Um >> you find all kinds of stuff treasures. >> Well, I can understand that because I
ate I ate um what do you call them? Those >> double dogs. No, double [laughter] dogs when I was studying. Oh, >> chocolate everywhere. >> Yeah. So, >> and we weren't thinking about that. >> That's a company that we work with to
help [clears throat] >> with those. >> Every time I've seen them advertise, I love >> Oh, can I just take this? >> Yeah, sure. >> Yeah. >> Did I do it again? I was just wondering because the last two places I lived, Cincinnati and Lexington, Kentucky,
>> the libraries had very uh vibrant bookstores that >> were in part filled by the things that >> that were they drawn out. I mean, cuz they were perfect. I don't know why. I mean, sometimes they had multiple copies, >> you know, and then they also had people
who would donate >> books. I guess the friends, right? And it was I mean it was great. I mean the the one in Lexington was a you know a nice little room probably >> twice the size of the one we're sitting in.
>> Um the one in Cincinnati was enormous. >> Oh it was just phenomenal. I would book >> because they would be a pittance. Uh >> y >> you just wouldn't believe what >> with our donations >> as you remember from our donation policy
that we recently did. Um those will either add to the collection, use for prizes or incentives like our raffle baskets, things that we make like that or that goes to the friend sale. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So we get a lot a lot of items are coming and going from the library.
>> Sure. >> Do do you have any idea like um newer books if they're if people are using books as much as >> Oh yeah, >> they are. >> Yeah. Our circs are are still really
high. And if you go um on Aspen or Libby Yeah. >> and you're looking to place holds on some of like the newest I like some of the best like there could be 900 people on hold for some of these titles >> and and are some of those same people taking them online too. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like if you go
>> I do that myself. >> I do that too and it'll be like five months wait. It's like great. >> Right. >> Mhm. Yeah. >> Oh that's No, that's good. Yeah. >> But the other >> I mean it's not good for the reader, but it's good for >> I've had a book come and I' like I didn't even remember putting this on
hold cuz it's been four or five months later. >> Um I don't know if you've seen in the news at all but Baker and Taylor is going out of business. >> So that is one of the major book sellers here. It's major like this is had a
ripple effect across >> Baker. >> Um yeah, Baker and Taylor. So he was >> Taylor. Um, so we use Ingram. >> Yes. It's like who all the libraries buy from. So like Baker and Taylor and Ingram are kind of like the two two of the major vendors and they are like it
was very sudden and they are they're ceasing operations. >> Explanation as to why. >> Um they're Yes. And kind of the gist of it is um my understanding is that they weren't necessarily doing all that well and they were trying to get acquired or another
company was trying to acquire them and then that cell fell through and then when that went through they just couldn't >> we couldn't couldn't recover from that. So they are ceasing operations pretty quickly which has had a major ripple effect. >> Um so over the next probably month or
two you're going to see our numbers in terms of items added drop significantly because Yes, >> because all of these Baker and Taylor libraries now have to >> switch over >> to Ingram and other vendors. So, it's going to
>> Taylor is not there anymore. Are you kidding me? >> No. >> Um, and out of business. >> Yeah, they're going out of business. So, yeah, effective maybe December, but like they've already started closing different things like different parts. get things.
>> So any a lot of the we weren't using Baker and Taylor for that purpose um fortunately for us but um like the Aerys report and the financial report were done through collect which
was a Baker and Taylor product. >> Okay. Um, our our images on Aspen, the thumbnail images that you've seen >> were part of a Baker and Taylor product. >> So, CW Mars had to pivot real quick
>> in order to find another company's >> so that we could still have all Yeah. So, it's just there's just it's kind of it's not just buying the books and the DVDs and the audio books >> services. Correct. So, it it's had a ripple effect. So Ingram typically slows
down for us in November and December. Like we're still ordering like crazy, but the items just aren't coming in. >> And now with Baker and Taylor's, >> there's even less. >> Now there's even less. So you're going to see our numbers start to drop um a
little bit, but we anticipate to start getting just all of those orders in probably after the new year. I mean, we're like Michelle placed an order today for 110 items. So, I mean, we're still ordering delayed. >> Yeah. There's just which we get this time of year anyway.
>> That's gonna drive Christy crazy. >> Yeah. It's >> because she'll have to process all. >> So, we're trying to order all of the library of things right now instead of like spreading it out. We're trying to get that in. So, we >> have we're still getting stuff coming
in. So, um so you'll see a little change there. >> Yeah, it's doing great. Yeah, it's doing great. Good to know. >> Yeah. >> Um >> continue. Yep. So in October, the circulation department navigated the staff side evergreen upgrade. So the
patron side is Aspen, the staff side is evergreen. They had a major upgrade back in October, and they did a nice job adjusting to the many feature updates and addressing any remaining bugs by working with CWR staff. Um the upgrade led to several bug fixes, and the team easily handled all the glitches along
the way. Um, circulation wrapped up delivery survey week with an impressive uh 1,138 items being sent out, which was over a hundred more items than last fall's count. Uh, the library has stopped charging the $2 fee for new library cards, which has made replacing
long lost cards much easier for patrons and staff alike. >> Good. Uh, circulation continues to connect with our town and community through volunteer opportunities. Um, two of our SWAT volunteers have completed their uh, hours for this year while four have already been assigned for next year
with three of them being returning volunteers. So, that's great. >> So, I know what to do. >> So, and this fall, Christina also trained two new student volunteers and one new community volunteer. And then circulation and tech services are working together on deletions and
collection updates, including reclassifying and relabeling the world language DVDs and children's books. And then on the next slide, you can see just a couple of our promotions for some of our um collection. So, we started adding
Blu-ray DVDs back to our collection. Um that had kind of dropped off for a little while, but we are getting patron requests for Blu-rays. So, we've ordered some of those. And we do have a Blu-ray player. And then um >> is that part of the library? >> The library. Yeah. And uh karaoke. >> In case you're looking to sing your
heart out tonight, we have a karaoke. >> So library updates. Um the library celebrated band books week from October 5th to 11th with social media posts, our website happenings, and book displays. Uh the book displays were very popular and needed to be replenished several times throughout the week, which was
great. Um, National Friends of Libraries Week was celebrated October 19th through the 25th with daily social media friend spotlight posts. Um, each day, not each week, sorry, typo. Each day featured a friend
in which they shared a little bit about themselves and why they loved being a friend. Uh, the library created friendship displays and encouraged patrons to share little thank you notes about why the friends group is so important to East Salon Meadow. Um, a green communities grant application was submitted by the town of
East Long Meadow, which would address building weather stripping and replacement of the rooftop units, which we call RTUs. In addition to the green communities grant, capital improvement projects were also submitted to the town for additional building maintenance, including requests for first floor replacement, window shades, and the
building control system upgrades. >> Is the RTU is >> the entire HVAC system? That >> the entire system? Really? So, um, >> but it might work this time. [laughter] >> Fingers crossed. >> It was definitely a collaborative effort. Rebecca Lesey, who was the
deputy town manager, really led the way on that. Was incredibly >> um efficient with time because it was a very tight turnaround and there was a lot of information that was needed, lots of reports and consultations. >> So, we get money in to help.
>> So, hopefully she worked with DPW, the IT department, the library. So, she did a really great job. It was an interesting process to be a part of and >> is there a time frame with that? >> Um, it was submitted towards the end of October. I don't know
what the the date is, >> but I my understanding is you can apply several times throughout the year. So, if we don't get in from the October, we can try it again in the spring. And then the first draft of floor plans
was shared by creative library concepts for the conceptual redesign of the library's interior spaces. Um follow-up meetings are scheduled to make edits to the plan as well as to discuss timeline timeline and budgeting. And then there's one other thing that just got emailed
out that um is not here, but I brought it to remind myself to share with you all that uh East Long Meadow was one of the libraries that was certified in the first round of state aid. Um and we are going to receive our state aid payment.
So that's great news. So we're in the first um wave. There's two. And then um this this is the first payment. We get our first now. And then the second payment will be in the spring sometime like March or April. >> And so this is me informing you. I
informed the town. I informed the accounting department and the collector treasurer. So everyone should be very pleased. It was a >> uh a great effort by everybody involved and so we are certified and we are getting our state aid payment which is great. >> Awesome. >> And then just some updates for
everybody. This is looking forward because these things are happening and I wanted to let you know that they are happening either now or before our next meeting. Um, but we initiated a community food drive that is taking place right now. Um, that was a staffled effort which I thought was fantastic and they
coordinated with the the Council on Aging for the food bank and um, so we're accepting donations right now and we're and the Pleasant View Senior Center is actually coming over to pick them up which is really great. And then we are also going to be partnering again with
the Pleasant View Senior Center and the Park and Recck Department on the giving tree and we're once again raising um awareness and collecting items of need for it's called AOK all of our kids. Um so it's to support foster and adoptive
families in Massachusetts. So that collection started on Monday and we're already getting items in which is great. >> Yeah. And there's still not a I don't know. >> I have not heard anything. So, I'm going to assume no. But I don't know if that
>> position has been filled yet. >> Okay. >> For professional develop I'm sorry, >> I saw Laura over there yesterday. She was doing >> it down. >> What was Yeah. What was What was the program she did?
>> Oh, it was um memory and music. Oh, I know that one. It was It was memory and music. and she said it went phenomenal that >> it seemed to >> they had a really great presentation and was talking about you know we're a dementia friendly community and um they
were talking about the importance and um kind of the impact that music can have quite a few attendees too. >> Yeah, she said it was a pretty decent turnout and she said the presenter was really fantastic and then she was then going up to Northampton to do a similar program.
>> Okay. But she might be back and Mora would be interested in having because she doesn't live around here. So she'd be interested in having her come back to do another program if she visits again. >> And she said, "I like going to the program after I done." >> Yeah. Well, I'm sorry. >> Yeah. Next time she comes again. >> Wonderful.
Um so during the month of October we continued on preparing for the evergreen upgrade and for our staff training day which was um the first week of November in which we were focusing on uh part of our session was focusing on uh AI.
So that's what we did. Um and then friends updates, it was national friends of library week and they shared many of kind of what they do and information about the friends and membership during uh that week as well on their social media platforms and the
benefits of being a friend and how their advocacy and fundraising benefits the library and the community. Um, also during that time and this was planned out, it was coordinated, the friends had their fall raffle baskets and that was another big hit and that ran between
October 14th and November 1st. And then um they'll have another winter raffle baskets in January. And then um these are just some images that we had from social media to kind of promote our friends.
And then on October 18th, the friends in the library together attended October Fest, which was um I think it was the fourth annual October Fest by the park and recck department up at Brown's farm. And that was a great activity. It was a really great community event. There were
a lot of folks that attended and they had an opportunity to interact with many of the visitors. So that was really great. And then for the town, the town h hel held its annual trunk or treat at the Pleasant View Senior Center and October Fest. Uh both of which library staff
attended. We like to get out into the community, so this was some really great options. Um and so we're just already thinking about planning ahead for next year. There are a lot of community events that happen in September and October. So, um, the Apple Place, uh, AW
Browns, um, Celebrate Eel, October Fest, Trucker, there's just like every week there's something. So, we're >> the depot I think had something. Yep. So, >> we're trying to get to as many as we can based on staff coverage. >> Absolutely. >> Um, [clears throat] so we're already
thinking ahead in January because we planned >> like our staff schedules at least six months out. So, we're already thinking about how are we going to try to be all the places that we can. So, um but it's all good. >> It's really good. >> And then the town held its second annual pumpkin decorating contest and it was
here again at the library and that was really fun. And the the pumpkins were phenomenal. The display was really great. >> Who won? I didn't get the >> Oh, yeah. >> Do we know who won? >> We do know who won. >> I don't think they >> I know you guys are really You're bringing it to me today.
>> Um it's hard. We voted for what I think is the libraries. >> Oh, that was very nice of you. >> You what? >> Because it was the best one. >> Which one? >> The library. >> The Oh, the librarian. >> Um, we did not win.
>> Um, [laughter] but first place was Bubbles, which was the town clerk's >> the fish. >> Uh, yep. >> Yeah, that was pretty. >> The second place went to the police department for their prisoner lantern. Mhm. >> And third place went to the library.
Mary in the library. So that was pretty good. >> Two the reference was too obscure maybe for most >> for Oh, for the library one. >> The uh what is that? The 76 trombones musical. The music man. Thank you.
>> No, >> I voted for I actually voted for the accounting department. The um money >> the piggy bank. [laughter] which was very it was the the budget like budget budget buster. It was they
that was very clever. >> And who who um judged it? >> Uh it was the number of votes. So whoever >> Oh, so you came in and you voted. It was a little >> There was no monitoring. >> No, I was just voted like five, six times. >> You can vote every time we every time
you come, you can put in a new vote. >> Stop the ballot box. >> Go ahead. I think it was. >> Well, that's when it's there. >> So, it was close. Bubbles got 90 votes and the uh prisoner lantern got 83. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, it was very fun. >> So, there were a lot of people who
voted. >> Yeah, it was fun. >> And how many pumpkins? >> 12. >> 15. >> Oh, 16. There were Yeah, there were >> I feel like we took third. >> Yeah. So, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. >> Pretty good. >> Yeah. And we didn't try harder. >> There was no trying to, you know, sway
anybody's opinion. >> I know. I think it would be nice to say which department submitted which one, but then I think it would sway people's votes. >> So that I mean somehow you can kind of figure out, you know, >> right? The police department is pretty obvious.
>> The fire department had like a little uh um like a Dalmatian dog and they had, you know, like the dress you could figure out. >> So some of you could figure out, but >> right, >> uh everyone did a great job. remember
who who sprays your house when you're on fire. >> I think every department participated. Maybe one or two didn't, but I really think >> I really think that I want to say all of them did, but maybe there was one. But >> great turn anyways, right?
>> Yeah. Yeah. >> All right. So, that's what I have for my report. >> Thank you, Katie. >> You're welcome. >> Our next meeting. >> Our next meeting >> Wednesday, December 17th. >> Wednesday, December 17th. Yep. And then just the you know just the policy
address policy is our main function. So let's not minimize it. >> Okay. Somebody else has to read. Go ahead. >> So yes our old business is the exhibit policy draft.
>> And if I remember correctly I might be wrong. >> Never mind. >> No I I am. Um I think we went through all of it but not the indemnification last time.
>> Yes. >> But I we Yes. >> But so what I'm why I'm asking is because before we read through the whole thing, does anyone remember >> there were a lot of updates what we did actually make into the policy. So I just
want you guys to read through to make sure I got I'm not saying we don't >> read through it, but some of our heavy lifting might be that it be indemnification, which we haven't really looked at. >> But the other piece to keep in mind though is I am going to be sending this to the town manager and the town
attorney. >> That's was that was my question was are they have they reviewed the identification? >> No, because Tom wanted us to go through all this first >> and make all of our suggestions and edits and then send it to him. So, we're
not gonna make a lot of edits to this identification because we're not the town attorney. So, I think that >> so we don't need to really dive into it. >> I'm sure we can start from take a peek and make some suggestions. I'm sure there's something but it is going to still go on to the next round.
>> No, now I'm centered. >> Okay. Thank you. That's good. No, it's good. >> Uh, would anyone like to read or should I? >> Go ahead. Go ahead. >> Okay. Uh, [clears throat] East Long Meadow Public Library exhibit policy
purpose. The East Long Meadow Public Library supports artistic expression and community engagement through exhibits. Exhibits must align with the library's mission and values as defined in the strategic plan and should not deter or discourage library use or interfere with
library operations. Exhibit areas are limited public forums and all content must be appropriate for patrons of all ages. Permitted use of exhibit or display space does not constitute or imply an endorsement of policies, beliefs,
practices, or programs by the East Long Meadow Public Library, library staff, or the town of East Long Meadow. Do we usually put the in here in this kind of paragraph?
I don't remember. >> What were you gonna say? >> I don't know. Couldn't I don't know. >> We should check. >> I I want to check that against some of the other policies because I feel like maybe we did. >> Um I capitalized the L. >> Yeah, >> I missed that. And then should it just
say and content must be appropriate for patrons of all ages? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Could you do something else? >> There's a you need a comma comma after practices. >> No. I don't, >> but I'll put it in.
>> Yeah, >> I always drop a comma. I don't have to have it anymore. >> Everybody drops commas. >> Did we Am I like Yeah. No. >> Am I returning to an old argument that we've already had? >> Yes. No, it's fine. It's fine. Christina does the same thing. She likes She gets mad that I I mean, she doesn't get mad. Christina never gets mad
>> cuz the coma is supposed to help you pause as the >> Just take I just put it in. But But you know, now >> how can I breathe with no comma? >> Want to know what? Do you realize >> I added it here and not there >> texting and everything? They're they're >> we don't use it. >> You don't use them. And I'm sure that
>> I put commas. >> Well, I do too. But [laughter] you watch the I should do it there with [laughter] >> I think you dinged me on me and I fine. >> We could talk commas all day.
>> So, let's let's try to move on. Okay. Application process. Applications are reviewed in October for exhibitions scheduled in the following calendar year. Exhibit applications are accepted throughout the year. Applicants will be
notified of booking decisions by November 30th. Applications not selected by November will be closed. Artists and displayers are welcome to reapply during the next application cycle by submitting a new proposal.
In the event of a cancellation, an application from the upcoming booking year may be selected to fill the open slot. The exhibit application form is available on the libraries website. All applicants will receive confirmation of submission. However, only selected
applicants or those requiring additional information will be contacted. The library may choose to reserve space for library or town use or opt not to schedule exhibits during certain periods. Hold on one second, please.
>> Give me one second. I don't think you need that comma director or comma or designate >> after >> which one I'm so happy to applications were reviewed and selected by the library director and then I think
take out the comma or design me. I don't know why you need a comma before that. >> Really? >> Oh, we're down in section three. >> I would have kept them. >> Oh, well. >> Interesting. >> I overcome. So, >> yeah, you're jumping ahead. We're >> Nancy, you're ahead of me. We're not
there yet. Hold on. >> Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were done. >> You can you can hold that thought. >> That's okay. while we wait. No pressure, Katie. >> No, I'm sorry. I thought that I had switched something somewhere else and I want it to be consistent. >> Are we talking about exhibitors versus
artists and displayers? >> No. >> Okay. Sorry. Go ahead. >> Sorry. Um I do think we need to add um those applications requiring additional information will be contacted
[snorts] just to make the sentence readable. Right. So it says >> change the those to find the those more. >> Yeah. because this implies that your contact that the applicants require additional information when it's actually the application that requires
additional information. So take out the word those are better than I thought. Right. You said take out the lo and let me reread it >> or applications requiring >> only selected applicants or applications requiring additional information.
>> Yeah. Will be contacted. >> But you're not contacting the applications. I'm contacting the applicant. only selected applicants or those >> or the applications that require
oh or those who submitted applications requiring additional information will be contacted. >> Um Okay. >> Or applications requiring additional information will be contacted. >> No. Or those applicants.
>> So it's selected applicants or those applicants whose applications require additional information >> to be right. So you're at least contacting people as opposed >> we're contacting people
>> papers >> those applicants requiring additional >> those >> those applicants >> those applicants >> whose applications >> require
additional information third time. I got it. Mary, thank you. >> That's where I'm at tonight. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Uh, review and selection. Applications will be reviewed and selected by the library director or designate based on
the following criteria. So, we think we don't need a comma here. Nancy, >> I don't think so. But >> exhibits in because last time I didn't have them. >> We need at least one comma. >> Great. >> Yeah. after library based on
>> we have we have a disagreement >> we don't have a disagreement I don't care >> if it's really not a big deal >> I don't care nobody's going to >> read it's a separate right it's like a separate >> so because it's the library director or the designate so like you need to
bracket the design between two commas that's >> like the bracketing idea I'm with you so like okay >> let's go with >> we're good here Okay. Preference goes to local individuals or organizations,
relevance to the region, community, or the libraries mission, balance and diversity of past, current and future exhibits, adherence to size and installation requirements. Based on perceived public interest, the library may request the exhibitor to
participate in an art program for the public during the exhibition period. If an exhibitor is interested in personally hosting a public program, they may do so following the guidelines outlined in the libraryies meeting room policy. Nice link.
Exclusion criteria. Items are on display in public areas and must be appropriate for patrons of all ages and the library environment. The library reserves the right to exclude items that include obscenity, sexual content or nudity, hate speech, racism, inappropriate
behavior, violence, or drug use, political or social fundraising content. All decisions made regarding selection are final. There is no appeal process for non-selected applications. I need to capitalize the L in library in
the second sentence. And if you want to be consistent, >> the two the two libraries, >> you need a period at the end of the C. >> Yes, I added that too. >> Okay, [snorts] >> Michelle, you're good.
>> Well, the library is So, the library environment and the library reserves, you have both libraries, right? >> Well, that was I was I was going back and forth on that one because is this a generic library environment? >> Like not this particular library, but any library? Is that what the intent is?
>> Okay. >> Okay. >> Should it be and a library environment >> instead of the library environment? >> No. The >> that makes it more generic. >> I mean more non-specific.
>> Yeah. >> I like a actually. >> Yeah. >> Which is what you're >> what I'm going for in that particular Yeah. Okay. Great. >> Exhibition areas. A community room equipped with a hanging system used for two-dimensional artwork. Artists must
submit high resolution images and titles of all proposed artwork. Art must be framed or mounted and ready for hanging. The library director or designate determines the exhibit schedule. >> Did you just put a comma after mounted? >> No, I put a line with artists must
submit high resolution images and titles of all proposed artwork. >> Oh, is it exhibitor? Um, well that but also I I not that's also in the I wasn't sure if that was because it's specific to the community room
or if it's part of the overall because it was also on the request form or the application. >> Yeah. Yeah. I want to we need >> So they're separate things. >> Okay. >> Well, no, I think you're right. I don't think that that needs to go there.
because it's not specific. >> It doesn't It doesn't fit here. Take that out. Yeah. >> Do we ask for it anywhere else though? >> Yeah. >> I So for the exhibition areas, I don't think artists must submit high resolution images and titles of all
proposed artwork or the library director or designate determines the exhibit schedule. I don't think those fit here. >> You're right. They don't because they're not related to >> the actual room. Yep. So, take those two lines out, please. >> Those two lines, they are this must and library director.
>> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Got it. >> These two lines don't fit. This one >> and I missed the commas on that one. I'm so annoyed. >> It's coming out anyway. Sorry. >> Cases
lobby area on the main floor. Displayers must provide their own signage and materials. All display items and la and labels are subject to library approval. Items may not be affixed to a case exterior or placed on top. Display cases are locked for security, but East Long
Meadow Public Library is not responsible for the safety of items. >> Again, I think these two things don't fit here. >> Which two? Displayers must provide their own signage and materials
and all display items and labels are subject to library approval. I don't think that fits in the description of what the display cases are. >> Oh, yep. >> I think these two sections should be describing the area that the art or >> what makes them the spaces themselves.
Um I think the last the sentence about security is a little bit contradictory and we should take out >> display. >> We should take out cases are locked >> period. >> Locked period. East Long Meadow Public Library is not responsible for the
safety of items or security of items probably right. >> Yeah. I don't know why. Maybe. I mean, the lock for security. That might be good to keep that in, >> but it says it's not true. >> It's not really secure, though. >> I mean, it's it's locked, but like you
could really probably just pull on it and it would open. >> Oh, so you mean it's not really locked. >> I mean, it is, but very poorly locked. >> Keep the display cases are locked. Period. >> Right. That's what you're saying. So just take out the for security part
>> and then >> and the >> and then the fact that the library is not responsible >> for the security of items. >> I almost want to you're not I think oh replace safety >> display cases are locked. >> Oh >> but this is my thought. Display cases
are locked but East Law Meadow Public Library is not responsible for the security of items. >> Okay. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Got it. >> Okay. Thanks. Installation and removal. Exhibitors are responsible for installing and removing
their own work within dates arranged with the library director or designate. Installation must occur during the library's operating hours. No storage is available. The library director or designate reserves the right to remove
an exhibit or display that has been left beyond the scheduled display period. Artwork must be hung using East Long Meadow Public Libraryies existing display system. No adhesive, nails, hooks, or fasteners may be applied to the walls.
Any comments on this one? >> No. Signage and publicity. East Lime Meadow Public Library will produce exhibit signage which may include the following information as submitted by the exhibitor. Artist name, title of the
exhibit, artist statement or biography, medium, and contact information or website QR code. Identification cards max 4 by 6 in may be created by the artist for individual works and may include only artist name, title of the
work, dimensions, medium, and date of creation. No other signage may be posted without library director or designate approval. So, we should probably So, we have um >> the >> Hold on.
There is a part in sales that I almost wonder if this should move up here to signage and publicity >> with prior approval. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Oh, >> because that would be signage. >> Yeah.
So, I almost think that this with prior approval would move above no other signage may be posted. >> Oh, that makes sense. >> Yeah, I think there up to here. [snorts]
>> So, I added in the sales section the second bullet point with [snorts] prior approval from the library director or designate. price list with contact information may be provided for interested purchasers and displayed near the artwork. So I think that that should
go here and then no other signage may be >> okay. Thank you. Sorry. >> No, that's you know just >> so what I was noodling was >> please. Yeah. Sorry. >> We don't just exhibit art that people
have created, right? But in the signage, we're telling them that they can only put in their artist name, the title of the work, dimensions, medium, and date of creation. So if we're if we're saying that people
can also exhibit their car collection, >> but >> but we can we can't really li Yeah. We can't really limit what they can put on the cards to what you would put if you created an art piece of art, right? No.
This kind of goes back to like maybe two times ago when we were kind of thinking about splitting I mean drawing attention to the fact that I mean you could say with regard to
art exhibits and then you need another bullet that says with regard to display case or something like that. Mhm. >> Um, this is what is appropriate cuz right now >> Or you could also take the only out like
is that really the only thing they can put on the card? >> I don't know. It's up >> whatever you want. >> It's hard to try to predict what somebody else might get creative and want to put on
their card. >> Yeah. And I'm afraid if I don't say this is what you can put on it. >> How do people do it now if they have like their model trains in their >> in the display case? You mean
>> I think we have a generic sign that says this display is provided by a patron. >> So maybe this is this way because >> we only want signage for things that have an artist, right?
But to Larry's point, I think there should be a separate bullet point that says >> for collections, this is what can be on the note card, >> right? Because you're saying in the second bullet, you're you're calling them artists, but the people in the display case,
>> they I guess while they can be artists, correct? >> They don't have to be. >> So it should be exhibitor. >> Exhibitor. I'd like >> Well, you could leave it artist, but just or just make a another bullet point. bullet point say with respect to >> or collections.
>> Yeah. Collections or exhibitors of collections or chachkis or whatever you want. I don't know. >> Knickknacks, >> right? The jetum and flatsom of life, you know.
>> So, for items displayed in the community room, identification cards may be created by the artist for individual works and may include da da da da da. And then for items displayed.
>> Well, so I just had a cur I mean just I I wonder do you want to restrict the size of the signage that say 4x6? >> No no but those are identification
cards. But then you're saying library will produce exhibit signage. >> Well, so like if we're having an art exhibit at the library, I want to be in control. >> So what it says >> of what it says and looks like. >> Gotcha. >> Because we have specific dimensions and
parameters. >> Okay. >> That like for our we use we happen to use Canva. It's a >> it's like a flyer maker for lack of a better term. So, I want to make sure that we're the ones that are in control. If we're publicizing that this event is happening, I want to see
>> depending on what you're exhibiting. >> Yeah. >> You may have different prohibitions on sizes of identification so that you want to be in control of what the side. Yeah. >> Right. So,
>> and you don't want to put that here now. You don't want to limit it, but you want to keep it within a certain dimension. So my I am trying to figure out a way of communicating that there's two different things happening, >> right? >> We want to be in control of the signage that's going to go outside the door in
the community room that's going to publicize what art is hanging in there. >> Okay? >> We want to control what goes on our website or in the the newsletter that we email out to folks like this is what's happening in our library. You can see this art exhibit, >> right? The other piece of this is like
you have a piece of art that's hanging and the artist, >> right, >> can then use this four by it's like an index card. That's that's the max because otherwise it could just be overwhelming. It could be smaller than that. >> But if they want to attach a card to the back of their frame that says this is
the artist's name and this is the name of the piece and this is when they made it, whatever, that's usually what they want to attach to it. So, I'm trying to make sure that if you're going to if you decide that you because not everybody does do that, right? But if they want to
put a card with their information on it, this is what it's going to look like. >> And the and that card or cardboard information is going to be easily viewable by the >> if they choose to do so. >> And that'll be part of the conversation that I have with the >> exhibitor, the artist,
>> as we're getting prepared to set this up. >> Well, like it's it's a lot. It's a conversation. Then maybe for the if that's the intent, right, we just add to this list collector's name or like artist/collector's name, >> but I think you're right. I think not to say that you're not, but I think that
Larry's making a good point and that if something's going in the display case, >> you and they have 15 items in there, >> right? >> They just might need one sign that says um bottle cap collection >> collection. Yeah. >> So and so's bottle cap collection from
1985, whatever. So that might just be the one sign that we make >> right >> to put up. >> Can I >> please >> sort of make the suggestion? >> That's what I have in my head for this. >> Yeah. No, no. So >> yeah, >> bullet point number one >> Mhm. >> stays the way it is.
>> Yep. >> Bullet point number two says with regard to exhibited artworks and then say the artist first. So with regard to exhibited artworks, the artist
may create and then identification cards maximum 4x6 >> for individual works that may include and then pop up and then the third bullet point with regard to
>> Can you hold on one second? Sure. Sorry. with regard to exhibitor. So, so the second one you're saying with regard to exhibited artworks the artist and then the third one says with regard to exhibited collections
the >> exhibitor >> exhibitor may and then you just decide what you want you know. So then yeah, you got it.
>> And then but then you have to decide what it includes >> what it is you want. Yeah. I don't want I don't necessarily >> So it would say with regard to exhibited collections the exhibitor the >> I guess it's collector is better. >> Do I leave it? Hold on. Can we go back
to the this what would be the second one? >> Yes. With regard to exhibited art, does it become exhibitor? The exhibitor may create the art. We're going to leave it as artist. >> Yes. >> Because that's >> may create identification cards for
individual works. It may include da da da da. >> Right. >> And then for collections, the exhibitor may create >> with regard to exhibited collections. >> The exhibitor exhibitor
May and then you decide what you want to restrict them to put in there. >> It's genius. >> You don't like it? >> No, I do. But I want to micromanage it and decide what the publicity is going to look like for the exhibitor.
>> Yeah, that's fine. >> Wait, you mean you want this to be covered in this part? >> I think so. >> So there we don't need that part because >> we're going to do one >> if there's a display case there. >> Yeah. Well, what about the little cards they put inside the display case?
>> Okay. So, >> I'm trying to figure out again if it's >> So, if that's the case and we're not comfortable putting in the policy that >> collectors can can do anything at all. >> Well, wait. Why don't you just say at the very beginning, East Long Meadow
Public Library will produce exhibit signage for artworks and collections which may include that way. You're so the first bullet point you're saying is covering both
>> but the because you're doing it you're deciding what goes on the outside and the second and third bullet points are for what you're allowing the individual to create. Mhm. >> Correct.
>> But I'm just thinking I just leave bullet two and then just don't put in bullet three >> because we don't want the collectors to do anything. >> I think cuz what? >> But but they do, don't I mean, what if somebody has their collection of salt
and pepper shakers or something and it goes for for three three centuries and they want to put a little sign that says this is an 18th century and this is a 19th century. I mean, >> I just allow that.
>> I I guess we I'd want to have a discussion about it. >> That's fine. So, just say that's in this bullet. So then you just say in the third bullet point with regard to exhibited collections, the exhibitors may create
you know uh identification cards with the approval of the library directorate. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Because there >> does that make you happy? >> Yep. That sounds great. >> I think that makes her happy.
>> Thanks, >> Michelle. You have something? No, >> no. Okay. Okay. I'm almost done. Thank you. I'm looking at you, Larry. >> Oh, thank you. >> He's already making the next He's already done. >> No, no, no. Just And then the last one
stays, right? No other signage may be posted. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, >> great. >> Sales. >> Sales. >> Oh, you did. I did. Did we? Can I finish this? >> I don't remember. >> Okay, we'll we'll >> the last little
>> You know what? Let me read this this this in. Okay. No other signage may be posted without Oh, wait. Can I read >> I'll start right at the beginning. Signage and publicity. East Long Meadow Public Library will produce exhibit signage for >> artworks or collections
>> and collect or collections which may include the following information as submitted by the exhibitor. artist name, title of the exhibit, artist statement or biography, medium and contact information or website QR code with regard to or for exhibited artwork.
The artist may create identification cards, max 4x6 in for individual works and may include only artist name, title of the work, dimensions, medium, and date of creation. >> If it's for Sam, can they put a price in >> later? Later.
>> Hold up. I'm getting there. For for exhibited for [laughter] exhibited collections, the exhibitor may create signage at the what's at the discretion of the library director. >> Uh with prior approval from the library
director or designate, a price list with contact information may be provided for interested purchasers and displayed near the artwork. No other signage may be posted without library director or designated people. >> Yeah. Okay. Publicity of the exhibit may be shared
by the East Long Meadow Public Library through the website, newsletter, or other communication channels. Additional promotional materials produced by the exhibitor must be approved by the library director or designate and must not imply library endorsement. I think you're all over this, so that's
good. Thanks. >> Everything requires approval. >> Yeah. Great, great, great, great. >> Yeah, great. Great. >> Sales, >> don't do anything without the approval. That's all we have. >> That's the lesson. >> This is like the one I'm micromanaging. Apparently, as it turns out, this is >> for micromanager. [laughter]
All right. Sales. Any work sold must remain on exhibit until the end of the exhibit period. Transactions are conducted independently by the exhibitor and purchaser. A QR code, website link, or contact information may be provided for
interested patrons. The library takes no commission and does not participate in sales or negotiations. Good. Good. Good. >> Insurance and liability. The library does not provide insurance for any exhibited or displayed items. All exhibitors must sign a release and
indemnification form acknowledging responsibility for timely installation and removal of materials. Full liability for damage to or loss of exhibited materials. Indemnification of the library against any claims resulting from the exhibit or its installation.
For group exhibits, groups of more than three must designate one representative to submit an application on behalf of all participants. Groups of three or fewer must each sign individually. Can we stop there for one second?
Because on the next page, I put four. [laughter] Check if representing a group of four or more exhibitors. >> That's why we're here. >> Yep. So, is it three or four? >> I think we said three, but that's
because we were reading the policy last >> for your operations. Do you prefer four or >> No, we can do three. >> So, it's going to I'm recognizing a two a an upcoming typo. >> This should be three.
>> Very very proactive. >> Sorry. It's what happens when you do this over several days. >> All right. So, we're getting through three. We're keeping >> Sorry about that, folks. >> Library's right to remove >> or resend
>> the library director or design. >> Put those comments in. >> Reserve the reserves the right to cancel, postpone, or remove any exhibit or display for any of the following reasons. Maintenance, renovation, or emergency issues. Safety concerns or
hazards to staff, patrons, or the building. interference with library access, services, or operations. Non-compliance with this policy. Consequence of non-compliance. Failure to adhere to East Long Meadow Public Libraries exhibit policy or any other
library policy may result in immediate removal of an exhibit or display. Suspension of eligibility for future exhibits, revocation of library privileges if applicable. Larry, I hear your voice in my head when
I read consequence of non-compliance. >> Okay. >> I don't know why. Donating artwork to East Lang Meadow Public Library. Exhibitors may be interested in donating their items to the library following their exhibition period. Exhibitors are encouraged to
review the donation policy available on the library's website or by contacting the library director. Good. Exhibit application. Thank you for your interest in exhibiting items at the East Long Meadow Public Library. To be considered for a
future exhibit, please complete this application in full and return it to the library. Please note, the library does not provide insurance for any exhibited items and is not responsible for the loss or damage of any work. >> Can't say it enough. >> Hear that. >> Just want to be clear.
>> No, I think that's true. Oh, that's right. I have to say that. >> Check if representing a group of three or more exhibitors, telephone, email, title of exhibit, website or social media account, type of exhibit, artist statement or biography, exhibit space
requested, community room, display cases. In addition to the application, please submit three full color images of your work to library director east.gov. By signing below, you confirm that you have reviewed and will abide by the
exhibit policy and have completed and signed the release and indemnification form. If representing a group, you agree to take respon responsibility for all members. Ensure members are informed of the exhibit policy and upon request can provide contact information for all
members. All applicants will receive confirmation of submission. However, only those requiring additional information or selected applications or will be contacted. We need to move this sentence. We edited this sentence in the policy. So, we just have to fix that.
>> When you make references to the legal requirements, do you >> um submit that to your legal representation? So once we're done with this, when we think we've got as far as we can go with this, this will go to the
town manager and then uh the town attorney >> before and then I will bring it back to you all and be like this is what they said >> or what changes need to be made and then it will >> hopefully be approved. So we're still a little ways out.
>> That last sentence is >> Yeah, we already fixed it. All applicants will receive confirmation of submission. However, only those required additional information or selected applications or will be contacted or
would it be selected? >> No, I'm going to change the whole thing for those only those requiring >> I'm going to read it. Do you want me to read? However, only selected applicants or those applications requiring
additional information will be contacted. Oh, I got it wrong. God, >> Larry, you do it. [laughter] >> I'm kidding. You took the notes, though. >> Yeah. >> Only selected
>> applicants. Remember, it took me three times to get it. >> I know. And now I I've caught I've caught it. >> Or applicants. Those applicants whose applications >> or applicants whose applications
require >> require additional >> require additional great thanks. Thanks Michelle. So what are you saying? What are this is how I read this if you leave it as it
is? >> What >> that those those applications who will who will not get approval will not be contacted. >> Correct. >> Okay. So only those selected will
>> Right. >> Okay. >> Or requiring additional information. But they changed the wording of that whole sentence. It the meaning is still the same as what you said it is, but the wording is different.
>> Mhm. >> Do you want to put anything on the form about when decisions are made? >> November. >> I literally am like I had to expand the margins in order for this to fit. So, I don't want to add any more to this page if I don't have to cuz it's already in the policy.
>> There's more space. >> Okay. But the other thing is >> it's hard when you have a header and a footer. >> Yeah, I know >> because it it eats up the space. >> Do you give the policy or are you planning to give the policy when you >> I mean when people pick up an application, they'll get the policy
>> the whole thing. >> Okay. Well, >> and a lot of times if people are emailing to inquire about something, I am going to >> right >> either link it or attach the whole thing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Mhm.
>> Uh I wanted to ask you also before we continue Yeah. >> We took out from section five the exhibition areas. >> Yep. About the high resolution images.
and the exhibit schedule and signage is covered. >> Okay, those are somewhere else, right? Because there's images on the form. >> The high resolution is on the form >> and the exhibit schedule >> review and selection
>> somewhere else too. Okay. >> Uh >> yeah, the application process, >> right? Okay. is determining the exhibit schedule. The signage comes later. >> Okay. >> And everything is subject to the library
director approval. >> Goes that repeated throughout. Yes. Thank you for following. >> Yep. Okay. And then the last page >> release exhibit policy release an indemnification form in in consideration for being permitted to display artwork
or other materials in the exhibit space at the East Long Meadow Public Library. uh name agrees to release, indemnify, and hold harmless the East Long Meadow Public Library, its officers, employees, agents, insurers, and the town of East
Long Meadow from and against any and all claims, liabilities, losses, damages, thefts, or expenses, including attorneys fees arising out of or in any way related to the applicant's use of the library facilities. This release applies to any loss,
damage, or theft of the applicant's property, including artwork, materials, and personal items, whether caused by the acts, omissions, or negligence of the library, its employees, patrons, or agents, or by any other cause whatsoever. The applicant acknowledges
that all items will be displayed in public areas of the library that are accessible to all patrons. The applicant further understands and agrees that library staff are not responsible for monitoring or supervising patrons who may come into contact with the exhibited work.
The applicant also acknowledges that the work must be appropriate for patrons of all ages. By signing below, you confirm that you have read the exhibit policy, completed the application in full, and agree to comply with the terms outlined in the release and indemnification form.
If representing a group, you confirm that you take responsibility for all members and ensure members comply with the terms outlined in the release and indemnification form. You also authorize library staff to share your contact information in the event of public inquiries,
signature, date, >> that four should be down below. >> Date date confirmation this staff stuff. Yeah. Uh, what do we think? >> In other policies, I have capitalized
the S in library staff. >> Okay. [clears throat] >> So, that's in there twice. So, I just want to be consistent there. >> Larry, you have a note. >> No, no, no. It was it was answered in the very end.
However, I'm just wondering, you said uh three or more, right? >> Yeah. I just had a group. >> So, right, a group of three or more. Uh, so what if it's just two people do >> then they each fill this out?
>> And they each fill this out. Okay. >> So, I guess the lawyer for the town look at this. >> Okay. >> Yep. So, I will make >> all of our edits for today and then with your approval, we're not approving this, but I will then send this out to the town manager. >> Sure.
>> Okay. Go ahead. >> Okay. >> So, you're going to make the edits we talked about, send it to the town manager, >> request that it's also review that they >> with the attorney and then you'll bring it back to us with their feedback next meeting. We can >> whenever that may be. I am not saying.
>> So, you don't think they'll be done by next meeting? Okay. I do not. This could be several months. >> So, this is the last time we'll see it before it goes to the to the um >> so whatever I don't know their priority list of >> Yeah. Right. Exactly.
>> when they are able and then >> right >> can get back to us. >> We did our part. >> We've done for we can take a break and go to our next policy. >> We can have a comment [laughter] >> maybe even a semicolon. Now you're getting wild.
>> I know. [laughter] >> All sorts of things. >> I saw maybe. >> So I don't think we have additional new business, right? Nothing else to vote on. Nothing more to do today.
>> Thank you. >> Um would anyone like to move that we adjourn? >> I move we adjourn. [laughter] >> Second. >> Second it. >> Okay. All in favor? >> No. I didn't know who was going first. I >> Okay, we've adjourned.
>> Quit. I didn't say our next meeting is December 17th, but you know, next meeting is December 17th.