Firestone. Bam. >> If you'd like to. I'm not touching. >> We're gonna need it. >> I don't want that. >> That's why I here. I don't mind it. >> I said he's trying to get in. >> Hit someone with it. >> Look at panelists.
>> Yeah. For a minute. I got >> Hey Sean, can you go over the panelist real quick on the Yep. >> Um, >> you'll see Russ. Okay, let me see. >> Says there's two. >> I saw him.
>> Is he using his computer or is he using >> me to call him? >> Yeah, call him and ask. I can send him a link if he needs to. >> Yes, it is. It's being >> we're seeing the print. >> It's being televised on LCAT, but also we're um being zoomed on the internet. >> Printing is terrible. Look at I can't
even see it. >> Oh, I think we're going to get this done. >> I'm not answer. All right, so let me know when you're ready, we can start recording. >> All right.
>> All right. Go ahead. >> Um, I'd like to call the meeting to order. This is the June 16th planning board meeting. Um and the members in attendance are >> Penderson, Bill Fana, >> Cassandra, >> Chair Solo, >> Robert Throw,
>> this meeting. >> Perfect. >> Is somebody in Tim's using Zoom by chance? >> Oh, there you go. >> Wrong way. It's on 100 now. >> Hey, Russell, can you hear us? >> I can. I can't I can't I can't I can't
>> It's still on 100. >> Everybody else. >> Hey Sean, maybe try muting everybody else on the Zoom. >> Or actually Sean, have you m um your end or I don't know if that's unmuting yourself. Yep. And then unmute
Russell. >> Sorry folks, we had some technical difficulties. trying to figure out. For some reason, every time he talks, we can hear him 100 times. That's really annoying. >> Um, yeah, right there. >> There's two Russell Denvers. That's why. >> Yeah. >> So, just get rid of that other one.
>> Yep. >> There's two. >> All right. Russell, can you unmute yourself? >> Give him a second to do that. He's still muted. >> Can you just unmute him? >> He has to unmute himself. Once he
unmutes himself, we can hear him. >> Back up. >> That might work. >> Is that better? >> All right, Russ. Start over. >> Yeah, let's start over. that better. >> Yep, we can hear you. Perfect.
>> So, just keep it like that. We'll hear you. >> Don't do anything. >> Okay. My apologies for not being there in person. So, >> okay. Um, so first, who would like we have to approve the meeting minutes from May 5th.
>> So, moved. Second. Any further discussion? Nope. >> Um, since Russ is on Zoom, we have to do it individually. By roll call. So, Russ, do you want to start? >> Yes. >> I Yes. >> I
>> I >> So that the meeting minutes pass. Um, so would anyone like to make a motion to take items C? >> WE CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING. WE CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING. >> HEY. >> All right. All right. Hold on. We'll take care of I don't I don't have a loud
voice. I apologize. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> For procedure, >> first we should just do a and then just >> So, can you call it? >> Go ahead. >> Okay. Site-2026-03. Request for site plan reviewed to
construct a 775q ft detached ADU with request waiverss at 39 Parker Street Cessor's parcel ID 91-10-8 located in the residence a zoning district applicant Christopher Gallagher 39 Parker Street East Mass 01028
>> the applicant here you want to come >> my husband and I No. >> Yeah. Um, so could you explain what you're trying to do? >> Yes. We're building a small house. It's under 800 square ft for my parents. Um,
they're older and we're hoping to use that to take care of them. >> Um, do any of the board members have questions? Is this all your problem? Sorry. Go. >> She's requesting a waiver for a storm
traffic study in storm drain. So I'll chime in there. So um so usually for site plan review applications like yours, so you're requesting a site plan review for a detached accessory dwelling unit, ADU. Um usually for site plan review, we require upfront um storm
water reports and traffic studies. Because of the size of this project, the applicant has the right to request a waiver as long as the plan board approves it. So, you just have to make that when you get to your action items later in your permit application. That's a thing you have to vote on to accept
those two waivers. But other than that, uh they pretty much comply with all the other aspects of our zoning rags. Uh there will be further con review administratively during the building permit process but other than that uh there's no major issue. >> Um so this is a public hearing. Does
anyone from the audience have any questions for this applicant? No one. So, do I have a motion to close the public hearing? >> So, moved. Second. >> All those in favor by roll call. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes. >> I >> Okay. >> Um, is there anything else on this matter anyone like to say? >> Okay. So, do we have to read these out? >> So, you have to go to the action items
at the end. >> Yeah. >> And then just do each of those things >> um >> individually. >> Individually. Yeah. >> And for the conditions, we can like go through them really quickly together and then uh Yeah. Just so do them in order. >> Items.
>> Yep. >> Yeah. Do you want me to read them? >> Just do the action items in order and then once we get to the conditions, we can uh read the conditions like or I can read them on your behalf. >> That's fine. Um, so do I have a motion to approve or deny the requested waiverss for parking
and the traffic study? >> So move. >> There's a second. >> All in favor say uh by roll call. Russ. >> Yes. >> I >> I >> I >> I >> uh to approve or deny the findings made
for the site plan review standards review. So you can accept those are the findings that you make for each of these petitions. >> So if you'd like instead of having to read them, you could do them in block if you wanted to. >> That's your choice. You just have to acknowledge that you >> review them and that you agree with the
findings. >> So we acknowledge and agree with the findings. >> Do I have that? I'll move that. >> Second. >> All in favor by roll call. >> Yes. I >> I
>> I >> to approve or deny the conditions for the petition. >> I can um >> if you want to read them. >> I can read them really quick. I just summarize them. So basically put our same conditions for every site plan review application. So basically you
have to record the decision of the board with Hampton and county registry deeds. The site plan review approval is not effective until you do so. Um, you have a period of up to one year to enact the rights given to you under site plan review. Um, you have to abide by the
plans you've submitted to us. So, your site plans have to be accurate to what you're doing during your building per process. Have to make sure you're in good standing with other town departments including fire, um, DPW, police, uh, board of health, and the conservation commission as well as the
building department. Um if the site were to be altered in any way um you have to review it with us and sometimes if it's a small change uh you can administratively continue with the project but if it's a larger change then has to come back to this board and amendments. Um do you have any questions for us about those conditions? >> No.
>> N you will have all this information given to you after the fact of course. Um so that's that's it for the conditions. >> I have a motion. >> So moved. Second. >> All in favor by roll call. Russ. >> Yes.
>> I >> I >> I >> I >> And then do I have a motion to approve or deny the site plan review amendment petition? >> So moved. >> Second. >> All in favor by role. Russ. >> Yes. >> I >> I >> I >> I
>> There's a typo there. It's actually the site plan review petition. It says amendments. Please disregard the amendments. But uh congratulations. petition approved and I'll reach out to you tomorrow with next steps. >> Okay, thank you. >> No problem.
>> Do you have a paper? >> Let me check. >> Take them out of order. >> Yeah. >> I move to take items C and D out of order and hear them next. >> Have a second. >> Second. Um,
>> all in favor by roll. >> Yes. I I >> I >> I >> So you want to read C? >> Yep. >> All right. Case SP-20226-03. Request for special permits to operate a
recreational facility at 198 to 2000 200 Benton Drive. As parcel ID 9-5-0 located industrial garden park zoning district at applicant Andrew Label, 8 Benoy Lane, South Hadley, Mass 01075.
Is the petitioner here? >> You guys can just sign in on that. >> You just write your name just for the record >> and then um if you want to explain what the project is. >> Sure, I can start. Uh my name is Steve
Leel. That's my son Andrew Zach. Um we own and operate 413 Athletic Training Center in Chipe, Massachusetts. Uh indoor baseball, softball facility. Uh
been doing it for 10 years. Um kind of outgrew that place. Uh there's only room for five hitting tunnels and our 10-year lease is up at this point. So we started looking for other
areas, buildings. Um cuz it's baseball, we need room height, ceiling height. So uh most of the places we're looking at are industrial butler type buildings. So, uh, found
this place and we're looking to lease the two buildings from Zach. The first building, uh, we would want to do teams only. So, we have teams out of our facility, softball teams, baseball teams. We'd
keep them in that building. So they pay a fee, are part of our team, we let them use a specific facility where they only they have access to, not the public. Um then the second building uh we would use
for public. So they can go online, fill out and get a tunnel. So a tunnel is basically 15 13 to 15 ft wide and some of them can be 72 ft so you can pitch baseball. Um
some of them in the team building we have are a little smaller so we can get more tunnels for the kids to use. So um that's about it from the usage. Uh we do
in the team building also have a smaller uh weight room so the kids in the program on our teams can also lift weights there. >> Um does anyone from the board have questions?
>> Live pitching or pitching machines? >> Pitching machines. >> Uh you can they we have instructors for pitching. So they pitch into a screen or to a catcher, >> but the batting practice is by pitching machine.
>> Correct. And coach pitch soft behind a screen. >> What is the maximum miles per hour on the pitching machine? Is it variable? >> Yeah. And you can set it. It's >> okay. Is there any outside changes or just all indoors?
>> All indoors. >> And what are your proposed hours? >> Uh it's here. two >> highlighted >> weekdays weekdays 2 to 2 to 9 and weekends 8 to 8 to 6. >> Is that correct?
>> Could you repeat that one last time for the record so we can put that as a condition the permit? >> Uh weekdays 2:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. Weekends 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. >> Thank you. No food or anything? No.
Um, any other questions? So, this is a public hearing. Does anyone in the audience have questions on this matter? Do you want to come to the front? So, I don't know if you guys want to step to the side for a second. >> So, heads up folks in the audience, um, the microphone can only pick up from up
here. So, we ask those who wish to provide comment, please come up to the front and do so that way. Sure. >> Uh, Bill Raldi, uh, chair of the recreation department commission here. Um, I also live in East Son here in New York AB. I just want to give my full support for this project. I think this
is something that the youth sports, uh, desperately needs is more facilities, especially if there's going to be a public aspect to this. Um, so yeah, I just want to offer my support and, uh, hope that something you guys would guess on. Thank you. Um, my name is Bill Pry. I just have a
question. Will the hours change during the summer? >> Um, not really. It's slower in the summer because a kids in off school. >> Any change in hours would have to come to us. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> How about um school vacation weeks? Cuz
sometimes we do because the kids are out of school, we'll do like a speed and agility camp from 10 to 12 type thing. So any change in hours would need to come before us. >> Okay. >> Because this is real these hours are read into the record.
>> Okay. >> Currently if you want to do any exceptions, it would be a waiver that would have to come before the board prior to and enough time if you were talking about something in April. I'd suggest you come before us in February. >> Okay. >> Because there gives you enough time if we have any questions, things that you
would have to possibly deal with or work on. >> Yep. Perfect. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. just wrote along something. Um, my daughter plays travel softball for the Western Mass Heat. Um, and I just >> Can you just state your name for the record? I'm sorry.
95 Glimp Farm Drive is um I just wanted to say that um I think this would be a huge asset to our community. Um, as a travel softball parent, um, we travel a lot as it is for, um, games and things and having an indoor training facility for lessons and practices would be
something that would be huge for um, parents um, for a safe and reliable place for students to um, athletes to train year round. Um, beyond athletics, this facility would give young people a positive environment to build confidence, learn teamwork, and develop leadership skills as well as stay
active. It also support multiple levels of play from recreation um to higher levels of competition. And this investment is not just for softball. It's an investment in youth of our community and creating opportunities for them to grow both as athletes and individuals. >> Okay.
>> Thank you. >> Uh Ralph Paige, 137 Peas Road. I'm just curious under our uh zoning bylaw, what section is the recreational facility allowed? It's under the table of use under >> It's under commercial and recreational
facility. It's for private ownership facilities though. private ownership meaning um cuz I know when uh I think used to be called roots came in um we were able to allow that under an educational uh facility but we weren't
allowed to offer um in industrial garden park areas just for the normal playing um of games and stuff like that and I wasn't sure if we're allowed to do that now in industrial garden park or if this is based on an educational facility
where They're training, you know, the individuals to play baseball better. I think um 80 Denow Road has one in there where they teach uh for pitching and for hitting and stuff like that. And again, >> that's what this is. There's no games or there's no field.
>> Yeah. No games. >> So, it sounded like there was going to be games and stuff played and that's why >> teams can go teams can go in there and work out, but no games. >> That's the way it was for training athletes. And I just wanted to verify
>> no team there's no no fields being built or anything like that. Ralph, >> perfect. Thank you. >> Any more public comment? >> Do I have a motion to close the public hearing? >> Move. Second.
>> Um, all in favor by roll call Russ. >> Yes. Hi. >> Hi. >> I I >> I >> um so there's a parking waiver requested. >> Yes. So the um >> talk about that. >> So the parking calculations we used for
the size of the building. I believe it's like what over 19,000 ft. This confusing. So, uh, the closest related parking calculation that we have to this proposed use, which is a commercial private recreation facility, is our retail calculation, which is six parking
spaces per 1,000 square ft of building. So, if the parking calculation was applied here, the applicant would need 119 spaces per zoning rags. They had requested a reduction, stating that 35 would be sufficient for their intended use. There's also a
component off of that. In addition to the parking spaces, they would have to restripe the parking lot with 9 by8 um sized parking spaces to accommodate that number. I looked at it initially. It seemed like the parking space is limited on the site, but I wanted the board to
kind of weigh in here and see what the best course of action is. I think it's a legitimate request, but of course it's up to your discretion. Well, with his experience, he's saying that he only needs 30 to 35 spaces, and
he's asking for 45, which, you know, it's 15 more than he he thinks he needs. Normally, I'm a real pick on parking, but you'd have to actually till the, you know, remove the the dirt and put more asphalt down for parking spaces that probably never get used.
>> So, I don't have any problem with it. >> Okay. I mean, I would I'd agree. I just I mean, obviously, no on street parking, so you know, if you did have a larger van, we'd have to I don't know, you'd have to figure out something else. But >> Well, we also um have a proposed condition, which we will review later on
that prohibits on street parking for this proposed use. Of >> course, you can decide that later on if that's an issue, but that's usually the way we do it for a lot of the major roads in town because this is off a pretty major road in um >> Right. believe it's Yeah,
>> I think we should decide now that there's no on street park. >> Yeah, there's no We'll just make it a condition. No on street parking. >> Y >> and yeah, I put that in the permit report for the boards review, but you do have to I guess terms your action items, you do have to request grant the waiver
request for the parking reduction, >> right? >> So, do I have a motion to grant the requested waiver for parking? >> So moved. Second. >> All in favor by roll calls? Yes. I >> I >> I
>> I >> um do I have a motion to approve or deny the findings of this special permit? >> Motion to approve. Second >> by rolls. >> Yes. >> I I
>> I >> I >> um do I have a motion to approve or deny the proposed conditions? and just some of the ones that I'll Can I just read the highlighted ones? >> Yeah, sure. >> Good. So, the hours of operation shall
be weekdays from 2 to 9:00 p.m. and then weekends from 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Um, there's more, but these are Um, all necessary licenses to operate the intended business shall be obtained and kept current and active at all times. Any proposed signage shall adhere to sub
subsection 450-5.8 of the zoning bylaw. Trash receptacles shall be screened from view at all times. Exterior facing light shall be downcast and shielded to protect light spillage onto neighboring properties. Street parking associated with the proposed use is strictly prohibited
prohibited. And the applicant shall provide 45 parking spaces and they must be striped 9 ft by 18 ft prior to the operation of business. >> And just to add on there too, so there's also other conditions on top of those that we apply to every special permit in town. Um, just to give you some background what those are. you know, you
have to record your official document with the registry deeds in Hampton County. Um, you have to comply with other departments in town, whether it's health, conservation, police, fire, building, etc. Um, the planning board does have the right to amend and review the special permit any time it sees fit.
Of course, it's after an advertised public hearing. Uh, typically that takes about a month to month and a half to get on an agenda. Um, usually they only do that if there's a problem that arises from the proposed business. Um, you have to do the operation of the business in conformance with the conditions on this document that we are going to create
after this meeting and I'll send to all of you. So, you have that on your record. Um, you have to operate the site in agreement with what you have with the plane board. That includes hours of operation. Um, in terms of who the business, so we have the applicant as Andrew Leel. So, that's person that we
have on the official document. If ownership of the business were to change, you do have to come back to this board or the new owner has to come back and amend the special permit for the sites. And lastly, um you have to file the special permit act upon it within three years after approval or else your
special permit is going to become null and void. That's state law. U we don't see people go out that long. I imagine if you want to get started right away and not wait three just to give some background, but those are the conditions of the permit and you will get a copy of that later on.
>> So do I have a motion to approve? >> So moved. Second. Um, Russ, >> yes. >> I I >> I >> And do I have a motion to approve or deny the special permit?
>> Move to approve. >> Second. >> Russ. >> Uh, yes. >> Hey, Sean, you um cancel that Bluetooth pairing request on the screen so we can see Russell.
>> That's weird. It's probably coming from the TV then. Here, you guys can team, but I can fix it. >> I can see I can see everyone and hear everyone. >> Okay, we can't we can't see you. >> Okay, >> listen out, Russ. >> I to you. I
>> I >> I >> So, it passes. >> All right, it's it's gone now. >> Yeah, we're good. >> Good. >> You guys voted to approve? Yeah. >> All right. So, congratulations. Um, >> I'll reach out tomorrow or the next day
with the next steps. >> Awesome. Thank you. >> Congratulations. >> Case SP-20226-04. Request for a special permit to operate a recreational facility at 80 Denow Road, assessor's parcel ID 10-8-0, located Industrial Garden Park Zoning
District. Applicant Kimberly Pendergrass, 14 Melvin A, East Law Me, Mass 0. the applicant or anyone on their behalf here. >> Come on up. >> So, can you just explain to us what your project is? >> Um, looking to operate a fitness studio
at AD Denloow for my one-on-one clients and my group fitness classes. Does anyone have any specific questions for the applicant? >> Nothing outside. It's all in inside of an existing. Okay. >> Yep. >> Does that say kitchen? Is there >> Yeah, there's like a k like it has a
sink. It was like a kitchenette. >> No food or anything. I >> Anything else >> questions? >> Yeah. Does this not really >> Does this abut the bike path? >> Yes. Did you hear that?
>> Yes, I did. And were you open over the past weekend? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, without prior approval of this board. >> So, I had prior approval, but I it it expired, so I need to renew it. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> Yeah. And >> I do want to add that um I think your business license expired. So you want to reach out to Clark's office? >> Yes, we that's already pending, too. >> What's your hours going to be, Kim? >> Like 5:00 a.m. to 700 p.m. Some downtime
in the in the daytime when I'm not there >> days a week. >> Monday through Friday. Saturdays, same same thing. 5:00 a.m. till like noon. >> You won't see at the gym anymore, huh? >> I'm in and out. Can you repeat the hours again cuz it
says it'll only be Saturdays from 5:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. >> I think I I think I misread with the document that you sent me potentially. >> Okay. Yeah. No operation. >> What was that? >> You state your full hours of operation during >> Yes. Monday through Friday 5:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.
>> And then Saturday 5:00 a.m. till noon. >> Saturday. >> You said that's for Saturday only. So you closed on Sundays? >> Yes. >> That's from 5:00 a.m. to noon. >> Noon. Okay. >> Correct. >> Thank you. >> Um, so this is a public hearing. Does
anyone from the audience have any questions for us applicant? >> No. Hearing none. Do I have a motion to close the public hearing? >> So move. Second. >> Russ. >> Yes. >> I >> I >> I >> I
questions from the board. Oh, >> you go >> this for how long? >> So, do I have a motion to approve the findings of this special permit? >> So, moved. >> Second.
>> All in favor? Russ. >> Yes. >> I >> I >> I >> I do I have a motion to approve the proposed conditions and I'll read the highlighted ones. The hours of operation shall be Monday through Friday from 5:00
a.m. to 7:00 p.m. Saturdays 5:00 a.m. to 12 noon and Sundays closed. All necessary licenses to operate the intended business shall be obtained and kept current and active at all times. Any proposed signage shall adhere to
subsection 450-5.8 of the zoning bylaw. Exterior facing lights shall be downcast and shielded to protect light spillage onto neighboring properties. And then the same conditions apply that he's previously explained. >> Yeah. So I can you'll get a copy of this later on. >> Yep.
>> How many clients at a time? >> What was that? >> How many clients at a time? >> 15 maxed >> like if it's a group if it's a class otherwise oneonone. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So is there a motion to approve the proposed conditions as read?
>> So moved. Second >> by roll. Russ. Yes. >> I >> I >> I >> I >> And do I have a motion to approve the special permit? >> So moved. Second. >> My role Russ. >> Yes.
>> I I >> I >> I congratulations. >> Talk to you later this week about next steps. >> Okay. Thank you. Thanks, guys. >> Get this. Okay. uh K site- 20226-04
request for site plan review to construct a roughly 6600 ft² commercial building on 546 North Main Street. Professor's partial ID 2B-76-1 located in the business zoning district applicant Zermba Group LLC care of John
Willa 146 well 14600 Detroit A sweet 1500 Lakewood Ohio 44107 >> could you explain the project to us >> sign in first I'm going to bring up your plans on the screen or Okay, >> thank you.
>> Yep. >> Sean keeper panelist, please. >> Thank you. pictures with a thousand words. I think I'll wait for the pictures. Let me just go ahead and pull this up. and I'll have it on the screen. I'm just downloading it.
>> Okay. >> Yeah. I I guess I'll just do do the introductions first. So, my name is John Wuilla, uh the applicant and I work for Zera Group located at 14600 Detroit Avenue in Lakewood, Ohio. and we're a
developer uh working with Firestone Complete AutoCAR and their parent company Bridgestone. Um so um with me is Joe De Hamill. Joe is with Depit Engineering and he's civil engineer on the project. Also here is Herman Peralta
with PAR Corporation. He's traffic engineer and did a traffic analysis for the project. We also have uh Ethan Turney who is the area manager with the Firestone. Uh he's here and can talk to any questions relative to the operations
of the uh Firestone. Uh we have Tom Moriceet who is a listing broker and he's somewhere here. And then the uh property owner is also here Arthur Ram. He is a little difficult hearing but he's here as well. Um, so, uh, I will
just give kind of a just a general overview of the project. So, we're located at 546 North Main Street. So, it's just east of the existing Friendly Restaurant. Uh, formerly the site of the the property we're looking at is
formerly the site of uh, East Long Mo East Long Meadow Vegetable and Fruit Bin. Uh the property that uh we have under contract to purchase is.92 acres. If you could scroll down maybe a couple pages. Sure.
>> Right here. >> Uh yeah, that's good. So that that's a survey. Um I'll go up a little bit. service. >> So, um I don't know if the microphone's picking me up, but um so obviously we're North Main Street is our frontage. Uh
what's a little bit unique about the property is there's private rightway along the eastern edge of the property called Place and then also Amoretta Avenue to the south. So, let's get up and point that out. So, obviously North Main,
oops, Landrean Place and then Amorda Avenue to the south. So, private rightway on the east and the south side. Um, we did uh we're before the zoning board and we did get uh variance approval on two items. One was the setback off of
Lander Place was private right away. There was still a 25 ft setback. Uh we were close to that but not quite the 25. So, we were granted that variance. Then also there's a 100 foot setback from a residential zoned property to the
proposed automobile use. So another sort of unique item is the zoning line runs through the property that we have under contract. So it's split zone. So not not all the property that we uh are acquiring is owned business but all the
operations will be on the business zoned portion of the property. So that one we also got a variance for a setback from the zoning the zoning line. Um entry if you go to the site plan it's probably like the third last one. We have more
technical drawings but I think the colored pictures probably show better what we're >> Is it this page or the next page? >> Uh it's like the third number 12. >> Okay. I'll keep you going. >> Yeah, it's all the way.
>> Okay. >> I apologize. My computer's being a little bit slow today. I will get there. Oh, one more. There we go. >> I'll zoom out. >> Okay. If you could zoom out a little bit. Yeah. >> How's that? >> That's good. Perfect. >> Yeah. So, you can see this, you know, shows the site in relationship to the
existing properties. And so, you can see where the the building is located. Um we've got quite a bit of green space and setback from uh North Main Street. Uh access drives are very similar to the existing operation. Um the uh existing
one closest to the west would be the primary entry and then there's again laundry place which is the private rideway would be sort of more of a secondary uh driveway. Uh the the main entry to the building for the customers
is located along the west but at the northwest corner of the building. So when we get the building elevations, you'll see the the decorative feature for the customers. Uh we do have 30 parking stalls. All of them are located along the west and the south side. Uh
the service bays, there's eight service bays for the building. It's a 6600 ft building. Uh all eight service doors face this direction. So again when I get to the building elevation you'll see the the building design and how that works.
Um there are u you know required handicap spaces. We will comply with all the requirements, you know, storm water-wise, utility wise, but we are, you know, we'd be reconstructing the sidewalk along North Main Street an
accessible route from North Main Street to the building, uh, increasing pedestrian access. Um, again, considerable green space not only in the front, but also on the south side. And that that doesn't even talk about Amaretta Avenue, which is further
south. So, Amoretta Avenue is private rightway, which is I'm sure the residents will talk about it, but it's it's used for access, but it's like a grassy grally area. both Amirada and Landrean. The Landrean
in this area is paved now. Uh we would be rebuilding that, reconstructing the pavement that's in Landan. And if you go to the site, you know, as you pull in Lan, this the parking that goes to the existing building is really steep and it's angled. You know, obviously we
wouldn't be doing that. It'll all be uh leveled out with uh acceptable acceptable grades. Um we are proposing five light poles as part of the project. Uh three would be located along the south side for the
parking and two I think two along the south side, two along the west and one by the handicap spaces. Uh there will be uh some building mounted lighting. Um, we can go to the building.
>> It's not time for public comment yet. You have to wait till the applicants done and the board will open public comment when it's that time of the hearing. Thank you. >> Uh, Cassie, can I ask a question? >> Go ahead, Russ. >> So, can you tell me where >> he's a member of the board? >> Chair of the board. Can you So the
entrance, the major entrance is off of North Maine. It appears you have green space along North Main as well. So where will be the bays? >> The bay doors will be facing the on the south side of the building >> into the site.
>> Yeah. Right. So into the site, not facing North Main Street. >> And and what's the rationale for that? Um it it worked better uh from an access standpoint in parking. Uh we we had to maintain the setback from u North Main
Street. So it enabled us to get more green space along North Main Street and just um easier uh routing. Otherwise, you'd have your you'd have your building further to the south, which we looked at, but then um then you're you're
building further south versus closer to North Main Street prohibits access. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> From the pavement to the rear lot line, what's that distance? >> Hold on one second
to where I am. 82 159. No, no, no. Pavement to >> that's 26 plus. >> And while you're looking, how much uh
foliage or how much uh you know, arborites or things that would cut down on the noise and things that would cut down on the light are you putting in that spot? Yeah, it it looks to be about 50 ft from the south property line to
the pavement. And the the plantings that we're proposing, I don't know if you can see the screen, but they're what what's shown on that. Uh what's important to note, and I didn't bring it up, is the the site will sit 6 feet lower than that green space in the back. So, picture the
green space, particularly where the plantings are, will be at a six feet higher than the pavement for the proposed building. Okay. So, what is the width of the plantings you're proposing? >> There's a um Joe Hamilton to
pre-engineering. Um there's there's a 5 foot landscaping burm in the rear of the site. Um that's 6 feet higher than the elevation of the building. um that that width is roughly 50 60 feet in and wide from the edge of
the um parking space to the rear blue property line you see in the plans. So, so the land the landscaping we we we pushed the landscaping furthest to the south, so further away from the building, but that distance again, the green space is about 50 ft from the
paving to the property line. And then there's Amoretta Avenue south of that. >> And then >> and then how far is from the building to the closest residence? right down here this corner and then
back here at unless I'm assuming this is the business right here to the right there's a business right here right here >> from the building to the furthest point of Emerald Avenue is 159 ft and then the the residence is a further distance from
there >> and and what is that distance >> um I don't have that distinct I don't have a distinct dimension. >> You mean from a residential property or the residential the house?
>> A res a residential building >> which be the building on the east side of it. >> Yeah, >> it's a house. >> So like is there um John just clarify >> fetish roof? That's a house. >> What's the distance
>> from here? Also, keep in mind that house in a commercially zoned district, too. >> Y, >> but I I'll double check to see if it is a house. I'm going to look up Reno. >> All right. Thank you for allowing me to answer those
question those uh concerns but I'll pres >> yeah sorry about I'll show both. But this this shows all four elevations of the building. Uh it is a very >> Please quiet down. We're still doing the
applicants presentation. Thank you. >> So the north elevation would be the elevation facing North Main Street. The south elevation will be the elevation facing south. So you can see where the the service doors are for the B
for the building. Uh the east elevation which is in the lower left place which you faces the friendly uh which shows the the primary building entrance. So uh the building material is primarily
a a nichi panel which is a architectural decorative cementious panel and uh you know we've got a lot of ups and downs ins and outs uh different colors different materials a lot of front a lot of
to make it attractive >> hey Joe cover the microphone please kind of like their prototypical design but is certainly tailored to this uh this location. And then the view right above
it shows just kind of a rendering of the area. Again, showing the main entry, our sign would be located uh at, you know, the location where it's shown. Uh and then you can see where the primary customer entry is. >> So, can I um answer a question earlier that the chair asked? So, I did look
into that property right next door. Um it is a residential property, but it is in a commercial zone. It's I was confused >> because it's in a commercial zone. There is no requirement that this building has to be a certain distance away for residential properties in commercial zones. It's mostly applies to residential buildings in residential
districts which the applicant is more than 100 ft away from the closest building in a residential district. But they did get a variance from the zoning board to be within the 100t of the property boundary which splits a property that's owned by the owner of the site in half. Does that make sense, Russell?
>> Yes, it does. Thank you. >> Yep. Uh and just just to kind of talk a little bit about the operations. So uh Firestone Complete Auto Care Center generally operates 7 to 7 Monday to Friday, 7 to 6 on Saturdays, uh 9 to5 on
Sunday. Uh light automotive services all within the building. Uh no heavy engine work, no body work. There's no towing services and uh approximately 14 new employees uh with eight employees
maximum at one time. Uh we do have a dumpster enclosure at the lower right hand corner of the site. My apologies. >> That's okay. Um there's a dumpster enclosure which is masonry matching the building along with a used tire
enclosure which has a roof on it. Uh well that I don't know if they show. Yeah. Uh yeah. >> So that's the uh dumpster enclosure. the used tire >> covered covered tire.
>> So that that's really concludes, you know, just kind of in summary. So we're here for site plan review. Uh the the property that we're developing is zoned business. Uh we are allowed use in that zoning classification.
Um again, we'll meet all the uh requirements and we did get the two variances that I mentioned earlier. So, uh, again, we're we're here to answer any questions. Again, engineer, developer, traffic engineer, and operations. >> How about hours of deliveries?
>> Hours of delivery. >> It's different store by store. It's typically one day a week uh that we get the delivery and then there's one day a week that we get like scrap tires picked up. >> So, what is the method of delivery? Tractor, trailer, >> right? >> What time does that happen?
>> Folks, please. >> Thank you. usually. >> When does that happen? >> Pardon? >> Between 5 and 7 a.m. >> 5:00 is too early. >> Yeah. >> 5:00 is too early. >> All right. I presume there'll be oil.
That's oil. >> Oil like oil change >> changes. Yeah. >> Is there a separate place where that's going to be obvious? Used tires, dumpster. >> Yeah. >> Where's that held? >> You talking about used oil? Yeah, we use tanks for waste oil and it gets picked up by uh by you know certified
>> but the the tanks are inside the building. >> Inside the building. >> Yeah. >> Could you talk about the circulation of cars on site? Could you talk about how it's going to work in terms of cars coming in and going from the site? Like is it going to be one way? Are they coming out that big entrance of North Main and leaving on Launder? Like what's
the plan for them? >> We anticipate the primary entrance being uh North Main Street on the west side of the building. That's where the customer entry that's where the we expect most the customers to come in. Landrean place is is a private rightway. Uh we're we're
basically duplicating what's there now other than reconstructing the pavement a and improving it just off of the pavement because it's again real slope sloped quite a bit off of the pavement. So, uh, traffic circulation can can make its way around the building. Uh, and
trucks can safely maneuver the the site. Uh, the tractor trailer that comes once a week. >> You're expecting access and egress out of that one spot. >> We're we're we're expecting this to be the primary driveway, but you can't you can't use that driveway.
>> So, um, I guess one concern that, you know, as the plan director I have is just the width of that entryway. You want to make sure There's not going to be any concerns with two-way traffic coming and going. I mean, we just want site circulation to not be chaotic. And I don't know if it makes more sense to
just have one way be in, one way be out. Maybe long be >> one way flow. >> Yeah, one way flow. Absolutely. No lefth hand turns coming out. >> I think the reason for that, John, is because such a busy road that I think if you have traffic that's confusing one area for folks, it's going to cause a lot more backup. And I think if you have
the oneway flow, so in from North Main out through Lan that gets folks going out through Ligan, especially on the approved side that you're going to do, uh, safe exits, so they can turn left or right there onto North. >> Um, that's fair enough. >> Of course, don't have the right to make it or anything, but I would recommend
installing signage in accordance to DPW folks to stop or >> I don't know what's there now if there is a stop sign, but it's something to keep in mind. Sorry, >> can't get out now, but what is the stop sign going to do? >> It will. >> Can we wait? Can we wait for public comment, please?
>> Thank you. So, you know, that's just one thing I think the board should consider making that condition. >> Yeah. >> If it works for the project because I I just think for site safety, um that makes the most sense. Of course, you know, we'd also probably require uh painted arrows or signage as well just to direct
that flow of traffic. Um, just keep in mind is a right of way, but it's not accepted for the town standards. >> So folks who abut the property do have the right to improve it and put signage there in accordance with DPW. But on the site itself, they can put signage
directing traffic around. So I I would recommend a condition of have signage or painted markers directing traffic for customers in as do not enter sign on one side or something like that. >> Entrance only. Yeah. Arrows on the
arrows on the on the tar. >> Yeah. >> A lot of issues down the road. >> Do not enter on that the road on the side. >> Yeah. I think we discretion. So maybe like entrance only on one side only the other side. That makes the most sense.
>> I I can't see the width through there, but So I mean it will be a full size tractor trailer coming through there potentially. Yeah. It will circulate the building. >> Mhm. That's correct. >> Is there enough passage through there? I mean, again, I can't see the space. >> Yeah, we we we've run the truck
simulation route and it it it works. Uh we have to guarantee it works for Firestone. So, the truck truck can safely maneuver the site. >> Okay. >> I would say no deliveries or no pickups before 7:00 in the morning. >> Well, I mean, when we get there. Yeah. >> Yeah. We're certainly okay with
conditions that you would, you know, propose to us. Um like I said, we've got uh our operations here. Uh laundry place is uh 26 foot it exists as 24 feet wide today. The the private rideway is bigger
than that but the the existing pave that we were to reconstruct is 24t wide which is typical drive aisle. >> Any other questions from the board right now? >> Yes, please. Sorry. Go ahead. Please if I could.
>> So we were discussing operations. So, what are your anticipated number of customers throughout a course of a day? When are your busiest times that operate operating? And what is the
average time of service for each customer? >> Okay. We we'll have uh Herman talk about the trips first. Uh so what we typically do is we um estimate the number of trips during the morning peak hour and the
afternoon uh afternoon peak hour for the proposed development. So for the morning peak hour we estimate about 26 trips um about 17 vehicles entering and then nine vehicles exiting the site. And then in the afternoon peak hour it's about 32 um
trips about 50/50 um split entering and exiting. So about 60 entering vehicles with 60 exiting vehicles >> and the length of service on an average trip >> service.
Yeah, >> one hour >> wait time too. >> 1 hour. And I think it's good uh good to point out that generally Firestone is by appointment only. And they're also limited to the number of vehicles they can service based on the number of um
the number of service they have. >> And what is that number then? >> So service base they have I believe seven eight >> eight service base and employees. >> It's generally eight maximum employees. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> You're welcome. question for the board if you want me raising it. So, um John, do you mind if I pull up your photo plan real quick? >> No, not at all. >> All right. So, I wanted to bring this up because I I I want to flag the phototric and it does show some light spillover onto neighboring properties and I think
there's a way we can address that that I think the board should consider. So, I'm just going to pull up that plan real quick so we have it on the record. I'm gonna zoom in and then reshare my Zoom. Just give me one second. Okay. All right. So, this is the
phototric plan. So, photoometric plans typically work in a way where you have a bunch of numbers radiating from lights on a site, right? So, typically the higher the number closest to 10 is where the light source is, number of lumens, and then you go out and once it gets to 0.0, that's when the light essentially
disappears. So, this light plan doesn't show downcast lighting and I would urge the board to consider. So if you look out past the property lines, you see some light spillage onto neighboring properties, including a little bit to the rear. Although the applicant owns the property down here, but still it's
something to mitigate against. So I would recommend that the board make condition that they abide by the um all shall be downcast component, but then require the applicant amend the photoometrics to have the plan director review prior to issuance of a building permit. So that's one thing I would
consider if the board's open to it. I think it' be a good way to mitigate lights. Thank you. Anything else from the board right now? >> Not right now. >> No, >> that's good. >> Okay. >> So, we'll open it up to public comment
and if you want to speak and be heard on the matter, if you come up one at a time, you just have to sign in on the sheet. Thank you. >> And folks, when you come up and speak, please uh just fill out your name on the sheet so we can um record your name for
the record. Thank you. Okay, my name is uh John Godwin. I'm a longtime resident of the beast song metal over 40 years. I live close enough to this to hear the noise and see the light. So, it's of a particular concern
to me. I don't hear much information here about the traffic. friendlies is at the top of a hill. Any cars coming from Springfield coming over that hill, if there's somebody waiting to turn into the Firestone, there could be a
significant problem, you know, there. And I'm would be interested to know um if eight bays is a standard footprint for Firestone. I wonder how many the Firestone in Enfield has. I wonder how many the Firestone in West Springfield
has. Do they have eight bays as well? >> No, they have more. >> They have more. Okay, that answers that. But uh as far as the you said that the property is partially zoned residential. So, are you using the total square
footage of this parcel to satisfy your square footage requirements for the commercial space? Are you discounting the residential, you know, portion of that parcel? Also, it seems like um
I don't know of anybody that's uh anti- business. I'm not. I know Patty that operates Franks is not. It's not going to hurt their business. It's not going to hurt the other small uh mechanics that are in town. There's, I think, three within, you know, a very close
distance to that. I don't know anybody that's opposed to that. What we are opposed to is the traffic and the noise. You can't get out of Lombard now. >> Before this project is approved, >> there should be consideration for a traffic light.
>> Yep. >> At Lombberg in North Maine, >> not just yep. >> But again, I don't know of anybody that's anti- business, but we are as a resident opposed to having an increase in traffic.
That in my opinion is not only going to be bothersome, but it's going to be dangerous. And that's my input on the matter. I know there's one place to go. I'll go on the other side. >> Hello. I'm in the house across from this
monstrosity. >> Um I'm at state. >> My name is Burn Deep Bonner. I'm at two laundry place. >> Um >> is right next door to it? >> Right across from it. Yes. The bays are going to be right into my
>> kid front my kids window is right there. Um, one thing a question is they said that it's going to be lower. If the lights get to their thing that's going to be right in my windows. >> We've already talked about downcasting a light. The light >> right down.
>> Does that mean that the light has to be higher then? Correct. Okay. >> It has to be shielded so light. >> Okay. it still causes >> make that condition when we get to the >> point. So as in like just the facts um I
did research on how much decibels of noise this causes um for understanding noise levels of machinery of a mechanical shop. The decibb that it causes 107 to 90 97 dB
with what they're proposing for a sound barrier that only dampens 10 dB. That's 90 to 80 dB. That is still within the range of going depth. That will be going traveling to my house because it's about 200 ft, which that's
how far 800 80 dB will still travel. I won't be able to have my windows open because they'll just be zit zit all day. >> You operate with the doors open or closed? >> Unless we're required to, we keep them open. In the state of Massachusetts,
they have to keep them open. It's OSHA standard. >> Have to keep them open. How about the winter time? >> They keep them open >> in the winter time. >> No, sir. >> That's not correct. I I don't I don't want to get in back and forth. I can
address that when when I get back up. >> But yeah, so I am concerned about the noise ex even with a barrier. It's going to be at least 80 dB. >> How about if the doors are required to be kept closed? I don't know about that, but they're not going to always keep
them close. And >> they will. >> Also, the other thing too is on Sundays, which I have the bylaws of our town here about
loud, heavy machinery, which all of the machinery that is in that is about 80 to 100 dB. Um, and that's not supposed to be allowed on Sundays in our town.
>> My comment is I don't want it open on Sunday anyway. >> Okay. But like >> it's just me though on the board. >> Okay. And then the other thing on the street that they're talking about, that is where the ambulance comes in our house if there is an emergency.
So I do use that um in and out. So, does that mean that I won't be able to come in and out the way that I want to and the way that you're talking about setting it up? Because deliveries for me come through there cuz that's my
address. Um, that is where my again if fire or police or ambulances have to come in, that is where they're supposed to go. And I know from experience at the flower shop of calling the police about 30 times a summer. Um, no one listens to
those signs. Um, and I don't have the record of how many times I have called the police about cars and trucks and other things being there. They don't they don't follow. I have no parking signs there and people would still park there. And
if there's an emergency and no one can get by, what what happens? I do have kids with medical conditions, so that's another concern. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. The uh sign.
>> My name is Robin Dandy. I live on Gerard Avenue which will be right next to Friendley's and then next to this facility. There are absolutely no lights on Gerard Avenue, Rayburn or Lumbard. Trying to
get out of Gerard Avenue, you have an ery, you have a large dentist office, a veterinarian's office, and a small business behind that. >> And Kelly Fett across the street. >> You got it. Now, how do you get out without almost getting hit with the people speeding down that street coming
from Springfield? I almost got hit. It doesn't matter that we put a little sign up there that says how fast you're going. I almost got hit several times cuz you're constantly going left and right, left and right. >> You know how fast you have to jolt on that gas to get the hell out of that
driveway of that street? Ray, tons of car accidents. You have no idea how many cars I spin around in circles. You need to put lights there. We've been requesting for lights there several years. This is North Main Street. >> Danger, very dangerous. >> Doing North Main Street over completely.
I don't know what lights I know one light's going to be taken out uh down by the by the uh uh the pond, but I don't know how many other lights are going to be put in. It's a a project. They're changing all the lights, everything. Is Ralph still here? >> Yes. The pond doesn't even affect us. So
So um just a >> project. It's a tip project. >> Yeah. What's that? It's a tip project master. >> Hey folks, >> thank you folks. Thank you. >> I was just gonna ask Ralph Ralph if he knows of any of the details of it. >> I don't think we have full det.
>> I think it's still coming. I think it's still working. >> And they just told us there's funding set aside for that project. >> They should listen to these people. >> Yeah, of course. >> They should listen to these people. >> Yeah, I think they do a public hearing. I would like that because
on avenue you have friendlies. You have these people with in the veterary's office that are leaving. They cannot get out of the parking lot. >> So Mass D is going to be doing a project on that. I don't know how many years from now, but it's going to be
several. They have petitioned >> several times to get a light on Gerard Avenue. It's a mass project. They will do public comment. That's the time to speak. They usually do a butter's noises for these types of projects. >> What about the children that are going to be walking up and down the street on that sidewalk?
>> We're going to put sidewalks in eventually. >> Okay. Well, what about what about the sidewalks that are going to be >> in front of Firestone? >> I have grandchildren. >> Okay. >> What if my children are grandchildren are walking across that street? >> Main Street >> or you're not going to be able to have a
sidewalk. You guys are going to be coming through. You guys going to have a a drive-thru this way, a drive-thru that way. Some people that are elderly aren't going to know which way to go. >> So, what's going to happen to my kids? >> Doesn't mean a thing. >> What's exact? What's going to gonna hit
me and my dog as I'm walking down the street? Because the these guys are in a hurry and they're on uh you know what what do they get these uh certain hours of pay? They're on flat rate. They got to get these cars in and out. I mean, seriously, let's let's think about that. You're on flat rate. You want a car in
and out, in and out, in and out. >> I agree. I think it's a concern that traffic is an issue, but the board can address whatever concerns that residents have. I guess I mean it is a project that's coming in the works. All we know is that the state's doing it. The >> my my other my other thing is that
there's a park >> that a lot of people frequent with their animals and their children that is going to be directly behind Firestone. What are you going to do when those kids are walking down the street, hit Lumbard, take a quick right, and they're in the middle of the and they're
in the parking lot? What if these cars are zipping down up and down the street? What's going to happen if those kids get one gets loose? >> Is there fencing between the residential area and No. Is there going to be >> I'm not sure where where you're asking.
>> This is actually privately owned. >> Fanzy Park is privately owned. We weren't proposing a fence. We weren't proposing a fence. I mean, we could I mean, Landrean and Amoretta have to remain open, but uh yeah, we could put a fence along the south property line.
There there's kind of one there now that has an enclosed area. Not sure what that enclosed area is, >> but we we could do a fence along >> to Trangzy Park is Mr. Trangzy that owns that park. >> We could certainly do a fence along our
south property. That's all I got to say. I want a hearing about stop stop lights. I want hearing about these poor people trying to get out of these streets out car accidents getting their children and their dogs across the street. They can walk over to Heritage Park. I'm waiting for somebody the accidents are
absolutely ridiculous. And honestly, my parents try to get all the time. >> Take a left at 5:00. >> Yeah. My parents are constantly >> Can you get some sort of a name list >> uh of people concerned about this that so they can get to the meetings with the
uh the DOT? >> Sure. Yep. >> Well, see my biggest thing is too is I have two ill parents that are homebound. >> There is a fire fire truck in front of my house and an ambulance. Thank you, my love. These are my neighbors and they're always you know how hard it is to get
down my street with an ambulance, a truck. Uh yeah uh in a police department. Yeah. Fire engine. And half the time during the winter a fire engine can't even get around the damn corner to even take care of the people. There's
issues there. Major issues. >> Didn't get a hook and ladder around that. >> Yeah. You can't get a hook. God forbid one of our houses. And I mean there was so many people are older in my area. God forbid something happens to Nancy. You think that goddamn truck can make it
there fast enough? >> Well, that's a different issue than the Firestone. >> Yeah. Not again. >> The fact is matter is that Firestone is right on our corner, >> right? But it's doesn't have anything to do with the traffic on the old streets. Little little tiny
>> going to add traffic. >> So, what happens now? The fire department, now the the ambulances have to wait because the cars are flying by. They don't stop. Trust me, I've seen it. They don't stop. I don't want to be the bad guy, but we need to get this back in the road. I'm sure there's a whole group
of people that want to speak. I appreciate your comments. >> Thank you. >> And folks, madam madam chair, can I ask a question? >> Absolutely. >> Did we get responses from the police department, the fire department, and the board of public works about this project? >> Did not.
>> We did not get any. They reviewed the project. >> So, you addressed this to all three of those departments? >> Yes. They had access to all the materials that were submitted to each of the three departments including the fire, police, and DPW. Nobody had any concerns.
>> Did they not have concerns or not respond? >> They did not have concerns and they actually checked off they're okay with the project as submitted. >> Thank you. >> Yep. And also folks, if you if you wish to be included on the list that Mr. Pun was talking about to receive updates on any future project North Main Street,
please after the meeting come up and sign your name and email address right here. you be included on such a list whenever that comes. Thank you. >> Hi, I'm Laura Fee. I live at 43 Green Acre Lane. I grew up in this town. I
used to work at the Polar Whip. >> That's where I met my wife. >> Well, a lot of people met each other at the Polar Whip and that a lot of us that's what we know the property as. My biggest problem here is, and I agree with the people who live in the area who
have a problem about what's going on behind, but North Main Street, right in front of that area, the way it is now, even with nothing going on in the Polar Whip, that business is gone. between you
going you're going north towards Springfield once you get by Harkness and you start coming up where Franks is people trying to come up from down below pulling in is a problem you get to
friendlies it's a problem you the traffic doesn't really get any better until you're beyond the pride station so that little section that little tiny hill okay is a problem the way it is so you're saying Massachusetts
>> DOT Department of Transportation >> is going to fix it when >> Yeah. >> three years from now. >> State in the Massachusetts. >> It's our hands >> whenever they decide they want to. >> Why don't they put up this project Massachusetts? >> Exactly.
>> Good idea. >> Because what's going on here is that part of North Main Street is not big enough. Now, if that was Shaker Road and you could put in >> that middle strip, it would make more sense with big trucks and stuff turning,
but you can't do that because of where um Kelly Fredette is. And >> you can't make the road any bigger. So, all of that has to look at before you sell the property. Congested commercial street. Think about what that
is when they say that. I looked that up. State Massachusetts. >> That ain't right. >> Can I make a suggestion to the crowd? Can we have one person speak at a time >> so that you're not talking and yelling
over each other? that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. >> My name is Sarah McIll. I live at 28 Gerard Avenue. I'm on the corner of Gerard and Rodri. My family has been and owned that house. I owned the house for
the last 13 years and I lived in the house growing up. Um we have always had an issue with traffic. Um we've had um the police come out do studies. Um my daughter is blind. We've had to have the blind child sign. has not stopped
traffic. My concern with the business and the size of the business um is it has always been a cutthrough street. Rodri to Gerard, for some reason, people go up that street and cut through. It is always been so dangerous. Um I'm very concerned that people are going to go by
this business by accident and then what are they going to do? They're going to turn down Lombard and they're going to come up Rodri and they're going to come through my neighborhood again. It's going to create a lot of traffic on those back small streets that matter. They matter. It's our home. It's where we live. Along with that, I'm very
concerned about the hours of operation. I'm all for businesses. Um, however, my property where it is and where my backyard is, I look and I can see the there's trees there now in the back. It's all open. Our yards are open. They're all connected with chain link
fence. Um, my concern is noise. Um, whether bays are closed or not, you can still hear um um the air compressors. Um, my concern is hours of operation when we're outside. Um, what that's what
that's going to do with that. I do have a question about the business. Do they test drive the vehicles after they put tires on them or do they just set and forget and then just let them go? >> They go test it. >> They do. So, they'll be traveling. I don't know where they will be traveling. I hope it's not a year round in my
neighborhood. Um, again, more traffic that I have to worry about in my family along with all the other young families, which I know a lot of them could not be here tonight because they have young children. Um, and I do speak for them because they play in the street, they ride their bikes. It is an issue anyways. I cannot tell you. I filed
forms with the police department for the my parents did. Um, our neighbors all did this because the traffic is awful. They go fast anyways. Um, and again the hours operation I think just it's just unnecessary for those long hours and for the weekend hours. I I just I I don't I
don't understand it and I am greatly against this project and so is my whole family. Thank you for your time. >> Hi, I'm Eugene Dacon, 73 Gerard Avenue. Uh, let's be real, that law is an eyesore right now. And if you want to bulldoze it and put a cute little flower
shop, an ice cream shop, I'm all for it. We don't need a big corporate business like this. Like people said, uh, pollution, noise, cars, traffic, safety, it's all an issue. Uh, this business is not going to benefit our community. It's
not going to bring people together and get people. The only way it's going to bring people together is getting everyone in this room today. We do not need this big business. If you want Firestone, you know, go to Springfield, go to Chapi up north, West Springfield,
Enfield. There's lots of options. Uh I think I disagree. Someone said it's not going to hurt the local mechanics like Franks. I I disagree. I think it will. >> It's going to take business away from them. It's going to lead to more traffic. I'm sorry. We do not need this business in our community.
HI, MY NAME IS RICHARD ZAMANIC. I live at 12 Kingman Avenue. Um, I want something clarified. I asked the um the zoning board. The services that Firestone has already
said that they're going to provide, is that going to be all they're going to have for services? The reason being is there's an open inspection permit that used to be over at Jiffy Loop. Are they going to grab that permit and
then we'll have inspections? We'll have double the traffic during the last week of the month. >> If they did something like that, they would have to come before this board for a variance. >> It wouldn't work there. >> And it wouldn't work. >> No. No. >> You go a Firestone. >> Doesn't matter. >> A big company. >> Doesn't matter.
>> Okay. And then my concern, my main concern when I went to the zoning meeting also was the mess that's over here with the traffic. >> And they're going to take one light away on North Main Street over by uh the park. >> Right.
Thank you. >> Is there anyone else for comments? My name is Phyllis Estroski and I live off North Maine. North Maine is just a two-lane road and it's always busy. I don't care if you go in the morning or you go in the afternoon, it's always
busy where they project Firestone. That's a very narrow two-lane road. My concern is with added traffic and congestion, how are um ambulances and police going to get through? I think
that that has to be thought through because somebody's life could be in danger and they can't get through that part. Thank you. >> Uh my name is Cynthia Ford. I'm 78 years old and I've lived those years all on
Gerard Avenue. So, I know a little bit about what the traffic has been like at the end of Gerard Avenue and on Gerard Avenue and off of my side streets.
And I have never in my life had as much trouble getting in and out of my own street any time during the day as I do now. >> And now you want to take and put not
you. You want to take and agree to having more traffic out there. I mean come on people. We need a break down our end of town. I mean, let's face it, we pay the same tax rates as everybody else
in this town. And what do we get in return? WE GET DUMPED ON. WE'VE ALWAYS been residential ski, the old residential area. Well, they don't matter,
but we do. And we have rights, too. And we'd like to have this planning board be on our side for once. Look at us. >> You know, IT'S WHAT I SEE.
>> I have seen this town change a lot. >> A lot. You're right. >> Firestone where package machinery was already traffic. You know, that's that's wondering is why isn't this in an industrial zone? or where there's more
space >> where >> we have the space. We have an industrial park. >> But Madam Chair, apparently some people are unable to follow instructions. Would you
please allow the speaker to speak and not interrupt? Thank you. >> Well, I'm done. girlfriend. >> My name is Mike Relle. I've been in town most of my life and I'm not quite that old. I'm 77.
I agree with everything that everybody said. I live on Town View Circle, so I'm away from the lights and the and the congestion, but I use Lumbard. I mean, we've beaten that horse to death traffic. I didn't hear specifically other than
tires. What are you providing for service? >> I just didn't hear it. I was behind you. I >> I don't know. Do you want me to respond? >> Yeah. >> Anybody? >> District manager is right there. >> District manager. Go ahead. >> We do tires, repairs, and maintenance. >> What sort of repairs, sir?
>> Steering and suspension, exhaust, brake work, fluids, filters, hoses, belts, >> oil changes. >> Oil changes. Yep. Part of maintenance. My point >> and this is all due respect to the board. >> You understand that's going to kill
Franks and it's going to kill that new business that bought Berettas which is on doorset. That's all they do. This will put them out of business. I don't care what you think. This will put them out of business. Hopefully you took
that into consideration based on what I'm hearing. Maybe you didn't. Franks will go. I mean, they're going to be right next to Franks and the new business that bought Berettas, they're not going to, you know, they're not going to benefit from it either. That's all I have to say. Most of us go to
Franks for 50, 60 years. You >> No, I don't go there. I go to Colonial, but same. >> That's my point. I have nothing against Firestone, nothing against free enterprise. There's other places in East Long Meadow they could have put this. >> As the lady said,
>> I think that might be the worst possible Mhm. >> Just my opinion. >> I'm Nancy Auto. >> I live on Rayburn Road, which is also a cut through >> Please. Thank you. >> It's also a cut through road, so we all
>> one time, please. Thank you. >> We also deal with a lot of traffic, and I think this is just going to increase the traffic flow. And I also questioned the numbers that you came up with for how many cars are being serviced during the day. So you know what I did a quick
math thing I came up with 96 you know vehicles in and out if you had each bay eight bays an hour 12 hours a day and you know and I also it's like a business on Sunday that's going to be open with
the traffic. So my concern is safety. The amount of traffic that I see on North Main Street has tripled. I've been in my house for 36 years and I can't take a left out of Bre because of the amount of traffic. This
is only going to worsen it. Um, you know, there are better places in town that could accommodate this size of a business. And it's just why are we having to put it into the largest commercial area in this town is that
section from the uh the lane all the way past um big Y. That's the busiest part of town besides that stupid rotary. But you know that's my concern. Is there anyone else who would like to
be heard? >> Uh, Bill Cry again. Um, I have a question. Can we require them to do a traffic study because I think that's the biggest concern. You know, it is very dangerous going across North Main Street and I would hate to think that not doing
a traffic study will lead to an increase in accidents and you know tragedies. >> Is that something that can be done? >> Yeah. So, so the app can submit a traffic um count trip count affidavit to us. But if you want to >> if you wanted to talk more about it just
to give folks more context to see like how much information we have before us. The board can decide if that's good enough information to proceed. I don't know if you have um a video I've seen where they've timed um how many cars go down North Main Street. um if you've done a study where you put out that um
the counter see how many cars and how long it would take a car uh to wait to go across that area because that's the biggest concern is shooting across you know right now um just leaving for patties you know it's almost impossible
to take a left um and most people doing four and five where we we have that rush hour and did you do a study to see how many cars go across at that time. >> If you want us to speak to that now, we >> Well, wait, why don't we take one more
comment and then we'll come back to you for some responses. >> At the end of the comments, we'll close the public hearing for tonight and through the chair, excuse me, through the chair, we'll close the public hearing for tonight. >> We'll hear from the applicant again and then we'll we'll the board will continue the board will decide what information
we would like our planning director to get in time for the next meeting. How's that sound? >> Okay, great. Thank you very much, Ralph. Um Ralph Paige uh 137 Peas Road. Um but I'm sitting in front of you tonight as a town counselor. There were some questions presented to you that I have
some information on. Please. >> Um North Main Street has been under for roughly two years uh an engineering uh breakdown. The traffic's horrible. We know the traffic's horrible. We received a tip grant. Um the last update we had
was construction starting in 2028 to do all of the repairs for the first initial part which is basically Lumbard to uh Dearbornne. Um then we have a second TIP grant that's coming through to go from
Dearborn to Westwood and from my understanding is we're applying for another one so that we can do all of this through grant money. Um the first section we're looking over $9 million to um study feasibility. I know the 25%
engineering has been completed. They're now working on the phase for the 75% engineering which will also bring in public comment sections. Um so the DOT will be holding public hearings to hear from all the neighbors uh what their
concerns are, when the worst traffic is. I mean just because you grab numbers doesn't necessarily show everything and so they want the public's input on this and that is going forwards but again as we all know through mass do
it is an extremely slow process um like I said we just heard 2028 is the time frame they're hoping to put shovels in the ground for a completed engineered plan which will include new sidewalks uh bike lanes all new traffic lights at the
correct locations, crosswalks appropriately with lighting. Um, it's going to be a huge project of which we anticipate the second phase will be all the complaints that it's under construction and you can't get through. >> Correct. But once it's all said and
done, um we're hoping it's going to really improve that because it is everyone knows that lives in town, uh when you try to pull out a side street at a certain hour, >> you're better off making a right-hand turn, going down, turning around, and
then coming back. Um it's just that bad. >> But again, this is nothing to do with what's in front of you tonight. This was just an information for you. >> Thank you, Rob. Thank you, Rob. Yeah. >> So, um, would anyone like to make a
motion? >> I have a question. >> I have a comment. >> Okay. Last one cuz continue this. >> My name is Papar. I live at two learning place. I remember when Pol was open and you know what I used to hear with my
bedroom window? All the late chitchat chitchats. What am I going to hear from Firestone? It's going to be absolutely ridiculous. I know the traffic is going to be bad. I agree. I agree with the traffic, but let's not forget
the noise that this is going to cause. I have a swimming pool. I have two young kids. I have two teenagers. I don't know what kind of help you have, but some of these places don't have the greatest. And I don't want to have my kids out there in the summertime and having these guys, you know, be have the view of my
house. And um and like somebody else mentioned that if they do go by and start coming around the back way, there are kids that play out in that road and that would be a that would be a def that would be bad. But still, I just want to
finish on the note of the noise. Um I don't want to hear all day long, all night long. I don't think it's fair and what it's going to do to my property is ridiculous. >> Okay. >> I mean, it's just going to, you know, I I I probably wouldn't even be able to sell my house. Who want who would want
to buy a house with Firestone right in front? >> And plus, the the property isn't big enough. If it was big enough, all the bays would be facing north main, right? >> It wouldn't be facing the houses. There's two houses back there. There's one on the side. I'm only 100 feet from
them. So that's all I have to say. Thank you. >> I move I move to continue this public hearing to July 7th at 6:15 p.m. >> I will still
call the public hearing to continue it July 7th after they give their testimony. Okay. All right. Wait a minute. >> We'll make a vote >> after the applicants test. >> I'll make the motion after we hear from these guys.
>> Time everything about the next meeting. >> I ask a procedural question. So, um, prior to making the motion, Bill, and after we hear from these gentlemen, can we have some discussion from the board about other issues that
we would like to either be rectified on their plans or get additional answers, >> right? The plan was once I make the motion, the discussion part, we could bring up all of that. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you. >> Go graphic. Have you guys done anything?
>> Okay. Um yeah, again Herman Peralta is here with Power Engineering and he he'll talk about the study that was provided and uh if you would like something more beyond what he provided, we we can do that as well. >> All right. So we we did uh do a traffic safety assessment for the site um on
North Main Street. Um so just related to safety. So the first thing we did was do a site distance analysis at the proposed driver in North Main Street including at Landrean uh place at North Main Street intersection. Um and based on our site distance measurement, it exceeds um the
minimum requirements per the ASHTO guidelines. Um and then we also did look at uh crash um uh history on uh North Main Street within the study area. We obtained the last five years for mass duty and determined there was about one
crash per year that had happened uh the last 5 years within the study area which is cons which is considered low given again one year uh one one crash per year uh rate. Um again just going back to the you know the trip generation. So our trip generation that we had um you know
estimated for the site is based on a one one hour peak um in the morning and in the afternoon. So the highest peak hour is during the afternoon which is 32 um trips. So that's about 17 vehicles entering the site and 15 vehicles exiting the site. So when you think
about 15 exiting, you know, vehicles during that peak hour, you're looking about one car exiting every 4 minutes. So you're not having, you know, you know, congestion at the driveway exiting out North Main Street because again, there's only about one car exiting every
4 minutes of that peak hour. Um it's also worth to mention that that 32 um peak hour trips just to put that in perspective mass DOT doesn't even require traffic study for that level of traffic generated by proposed development. They typically require traffic study uh for a development that
generates more than 100 trips during the peak hour not per day peak hour. Um and also I do want to add that um you know the existing site is being redeveloped. Um, you know, I think a few people had mentioned it used to be a nursery and prior to that it used to be a
restaurant. So, essentially, you know, there was traffic already coming from that site. Um, so, you know, we don't think we're adding a ton of traffic on North Main Street because that traffic was already there and we're just essentially >> putting back some of traffic back before.
>> Only thing I will say to that is a lot of it was seasonal traffic. >> Okay. The vegetable stand, which is probably the most popular business there, operated roughly from Memorial Day to the 4th through the 4th of July. >> Understood. >> Otherwise, the building was empty >> in recent in recent years.
>> Yeah. >> So, I'm not sure if that data holds true because you're talking about a business that will be open year round, >> right? >> Does skew the numbers a lot. >> Right. Prior to that, it was a restaurant from what I understand. >> Yes. But that you're talking >> it was a drive-thru. But you're going
back many many years when North Main Street was not nearly as populated as it is now. >> But you know, >> please let the speak. Thank you. >> So, you know, >> want to bring these points up. >> Understood. So, based on the traffic study that we have done, you know, I believe there is, you know, um, safe and
adequate access for the proposed development on the adjacent roadway system. >> Right. But what you don't realize is the the flow the amount of flow is absolutely unbelievable there. >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. I totally understand. On north, >> you could say that this the sight distance is okay. There's going to be eight cars coming one way and eight cars
coming the other way before you can even pull out. It's terrible. >> Right. So for the side street, I totally understand. Again, there's a lot more traffic on the side street you're given. It's residential. Our site is again, we're looking at about one car coming out every four minutes. It's not a side
street, per se. We're not, you know, we're not putting traffic on a side street. The laundry place is pretty much >> where they go when they leave your site is where they go. You can't control it. I understand. And the site is not adjacent to Gerard Avenue and also um um is it Lombard
Avenue? >> Lombard the site. So Lombard and Gerard are both separated by other properties. They won't touch the only arean to the east. >> Correct. >> Um Reddit to the south >> and then North Main Street to north.
>> Right. >> Right. >> I guess the So we heard a lot about traffic. you know, if if there's more of a study you'd like to have us provide, we we could certainly do that. Um I I don't know what that would consist of,
but >> I mean, we can do a capacity analysis, but again, it's such a low generator of traffic and during the peak hour that, you know, again, it wouldn't even matter at this point. >> Just get in your car and try to come out of Kelly Pette or try to mile Lombard
Gerard. Just get in your car and sit there. >> I Yeah, I totally >> see what the traffic study means. Absolutely. >> The traffic study traffic study I understand what the data would produce but it's >> sight distance and all that type of stuff. >> It's it's reality unfortunately it's real.
>> So I mean the me the site distance that was measured is very important. That's the reason why we did that to make sure it has the you know adequate sight distance to be able to exit safely out of the site and it meet again it exceeds not meets the minimum requirement it exceeds the minimum requirements for the Asha guidelines.
>> You guys build a lot of these sites right? I mean, they're all over the place. Is there anything that you're doing at another location that you can help improve the flow, whether it's directional curbs where you can only come in one side, which brings its own problematic like I get it, right? I'm not trying to be the bad guy here, but
like if something goes in there, it's going to add traffic, right? Any business is going to add some traffic, right? So, I'm trying to think logically here. You know, this is zoned for this as the bylaws say, right? So, we're we're kind of restricted, right? It just I'm saying that in general. I'm hoping
everybody can hear us in this. So, we're trying to make this the best we can possibly make it. Is there something you're doing somewhere else that can help improve all the comments that you've heard and just make it a little bit better? I mean, it's a busy road. I get it. Know, I'd love to know how many
a day, an hour are going by that site to know how much an addition you would be adding to that. But like if it's and I won't name any names, but if it's a retail or a restaurant or any of the other things in the bylaws that it could be not a Firestone, it's going to add
some capacity of additional traffic there. Right. So, we're logically trying to think of a solution for this. Is there anything you can offer or come back with? >> I I totally agree with the uh the planner what what he had um offered earlier about making a one-way circulation entering through the um driveway on North Main Street and
exiting on laundry again. So that actually removes um you know reduces the number of conflict points at the intersections >> and can it could it tail I which went towards town >> with the do not turn left. >> Yeah. Well that's we we were >> I think one of the >> I'm sorry.
>> No no no no. When it get the people that live on that street >> Yeah. that they won't be able to go left either. >> They're not they're not going to be able to go left. So you can't put a no left-hand turn sign there. >> You can't force the change of traffic patterns ways for this petition either. So I mean you're mostly limited to site design to any sort of nuisances that are
generated from the business but you can't really control the business itself because it's a buy rate use right >> that's one thing it's not a special permit it's a site plan review so you're site layout traffic concerns are being addressed if there's noise there's light pollution all that stuff >> yeah well to that point I think we can
do something about the noise the noise pollution too as well as one of the conditions but we just have to figure out what that is and we just need I I'm just, you know, I Is there anything else we can do to get a tra some sort of
a more in-depth traffic study? Is there do you do you see that as being a viable request? And I'm asking you, Rob, >> because you know, everything everywhere we go, no matter what, to Rob's point, whatever we put in there is going to generate traffic. >> I'll be honest, so I'm not a traffic
engineer. I'm not going to speak to that matter. I think the trip data is the most sufficient amount of data they could give us for this. >> Think about it this way. >> So you say you have this business going in that has eight days, right? That's like a total of eight cars plus some employees are coming going from the site. The traffic engineer mentioned
that it's what cars every hour or something like that. >> So one car exiting every 4 minutes. >> One car exit every four minutes. So think about if it was a different type business. What if it was like a restaurant that had like 30 seats inside? How many cars is that generating on an hourly basis? If it was a retail
store that had 50 parking space on site, how many cars does that generate on an ele basis? Is this proposed business worse than those types of businesses? So, say if it was like a hardware store that had a lot of traffic that came if it was a gas station, if it was a drive-through bank, which we don't
definitely don't want to see in town. >> No, we're good. Thanks. >> Yeah, but I'm just saying like >> no, >> compared to other types of uses that could go there, it's a business zone. It allows for all different types of commercial and business use to go there. Think about those in regards to intensity of people coming and going
versus this type of business. Realistically, if you're going to a mechanic, I've been to at least like, you know, a bunch near where I live in South Hley and usually you might have almost all the bays at capacity during like maybe the afternoon, in the morning, midday, you might have warranty cars down business.
>> I just think that a mechanic I don't think it would generate more traffic than a restaurant that has a lot of seating inside. >> That's what I wanted to hear. I just think you got to compare it to other types of use that could go there, right? >> And he's working off of a manual that's um internationally recognized traffic
manual that he has to do the data analysis off of. >> So he's exceeding the minimum threshold set by that which is a manual approved by experts in the field of traffic engineering. How many cars? >> That's a fair point. I think you could. So,
>> I can answer that. >> So, that's a fair point. >> Yeah, we've got a bunch of questions. >> So, can you answer that question if you >> Yes. So, um uh sorry I didn't get Rob. Thank you for making that point. So the chip generation manual that we use is um actually not only used nationwide but in
some in cases actually used in Canada also. So those are actually those data points are actually from counts from the same type of use. So whatever that type of use is be it you know um traffic generated by the you know customers be
it generated by by um you know uh what the gentleman said was you know tire testing or even from from employees that's all considered in the data points from the trip generation manual again which is a national standard that you the traffic engineers use. Um so even even a peer reviewer would verify our
numbers using the trip generation manual. Um, so, so those numbers are in reality realistic because those are actual from traffic counts for that type of use. >> And one thing you could consider too, so it's really hard to produce accurate data for traffic studies. That's just how it is.
>> I understand that. >> So you could consider doing post occupation monitoring for traffic. If you want to, you as a board could look at the traffic generated from the site and if it becomes an excessive issue, revisit it later on if you wanted to. That's just an option to consider. Don't know if it's necessary, but I think you
it's something you might want to discuss later on. >> You said one car would exit every four minutes. >> It's going to take that one car four minutes to get out. >> Okay. >> All right. >> All right.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> I make a motion to continue this public hearing to July 7th, 2026 at 6:15 p.m. Second. Uh >> discussion discussion >> discussion >> go ahead
>> go. >> So I would like the developers to put well number one who is the individual sitting to the right of Rob >> here. >> That's just a viewer >> on the left of Rob. >> Well he's you're on >> I'm the real estate agent >> here.
>> Yeah. I I I think for um apparent sake, we should not be having the realtor for the developer or for the property owner sitting at the same level as the board. >> I just was standing here. >> Thank you. No, >> I think you might want to go further.
Thank you. Um, I would like the developer to look at I would like you to look at repositioning the building. So the so the bays are fronting north main street.
>> Yeah, I would agree. >> And I wanna if it if it cannot be done, I want to know why that can't be done. That's one thing. Um, I'd like you to add to your landscaping plan on all three sides if
at all possible and show us a description of that. I would also like to Mr. Punderson made a point about hours of operation. So, you know, let's use Frank's as an example. So, I'm sure he's not open on
Sundays. So, >> stop. Someone is speaking. So, I'd like you to address those concerns as well. And I do believe it is the right of the
planning board to, if we so decide, to get an independent traffic study. We did that for 330 Chestnut Street. So, if we so decide, we could potentially vote on that if we wish to do so as another
consideration. And um that's it for now. Thank you. >> Okay. >> We have some other requests. >> And I I'd like to revisit the anything else that you're doing at other sites, right? Just to get some ideas for creative. I mean, we can't be the only town that's ever had an issue with traffic coming in and out of these. So,
I'd like to know at other towns locally or not locally, >> how you've mitigated those concerns that are out there. You don't have now for the next meeting. >> Sure. Yeah. >> Could I ask a quick question in a in a minute? >> Yeah. Let us get through this first, please. Then also there's the issue of
the uh phototric plan. Um I think you should update the phototric plan to show um what that would look like with downcast and shielded lighting. Doesn't appear that was the case in the original uh plans you submitted, but we would definitely like to see revised plan
showing that as such. >> Okay. Then um >> hold on. Situ the situation with the open door for the bays. I don't know if that's you would tell us if they're required to be open or if we can require them to be closed. >> We can look at that. So, we want to
follow state law here cuz we can't supersede state law. >> Yes. So, somebody could figure out what that is. >> So, if there's research that can be done about what that >> Yeah. But we the only way we can tie into the opening and closing of the door is if there's a noise issue or like associated with it. We have to be very
clear about that. Yeah. >> And then um the so since this site could be used for other uses as well, could we potentially see what other the number of trips for other uses would be like you've been saying like it could be a restaurant, it could be this or that. Could you bring back the numbers that that could potentially generate so we
can compare it? >> So maybe from the traffic engineering perspective, if you can compare it to other types of uses that would be allowed there. >> Sure. See what the differences are and have that compared in a chart or something that would be really helpful to the board. >> Is there any certain types that you want you want me to compare it to? Is it restaurants? Is it
>> I mean just revisiting the bylaws that we had mentioned. I was just looking over these. So some of the right of use ones that could go into here that I just I'd like everybody to understand supermarket, car wash, gas filling station, auto
repair shop, takeout food establishment. I understand, right? I this so there's a lot of things that are right of use, not special permit, but right of use. >> So some of those would be helpful, right? And you can find that in our zoning regulations. Um just look for
ones that are allowed by right in the business district. >> Sure. >> And compare those to this proposed use. >> Right. >> So we we'll make sure that it's reasonable per the size of the the lot cuz market is so you can't really fit a >> and a car wash. >> It's reasonable.
>> A car wash is very popular right now. >> With convenience store, >> gas station you can plug in, right? I mean there's a lot of things that could really resemble that, right? Give us a different picture. So >> thank you. Russ, did you want to say something before we vote on the motion? >> Yeah, it was my memory that there have
been a number of proposed uses for that property over the last number of years. So, this is where maybe Minister Moriceette can help you help us. So, what definitive types of businesses have sought to relocate there in your memory, sir?
>> Oh, there was four three other transa three other opportunities for this property. Two of them were car washes. One never got to the table. The other one did get to the zoning board of appeals and got denied. And the third one was a bank. That bank ended up would
have been here except TD Bank was for sale. So they decided to get out of our deal and they bought TD Bank. So those are the And then there was this one. And there's a there was also when these guys were trying to buy the property, there
was also a bid from Valvalene also. Valvalene was their competitor at bitting against them at the same time. >> Thank you. Thank you for that information. >> You're welcome. >> I don't think so. So now um >> so so can I ask question? I just want to reclarify the list of items to make sure
we're on the same page if that's okay with the board. >> Russell, is that okay with you? >> Yes. >> Y >> okay. So the items that I have just captured. So discussing the idea of potentially reorienting the building so the bays are facing the other way. The you said Russell uh improving the
landscaping on the site. Is that correct? >> Yeah, from what I can tell on the plans it's limited amount of landscaping and we are always concerned where there's a potential conflict with residential property that we try to enhance the
landscaping to reduce noise to reduce uh lighting. I mean so I I think what is on the plan is insufficient. >> Okay. Then we have the phototric clamp date which I had mentioned. Um the comparison of different types of uses and traffic generation in addition to
comparing to this proposed use um at least those allowed in the business district. And then the concern about leaving the bay door open uh for certain periods of time and verifying the state law in regards to that and seeing there's ways to work around that with conditions. Am I missing anything from
that? >> I think that's it. >> Mitigation of other sites. >> So, so, uh, I guess case studies, we'll call it. >> Yeah, that's a good way. >> Case study mitigation of other sites. >> If the building stays in the same position, a fence between that and the, uh, residential area. >> Okay. So, a fence, I'm assuming on the
rear part of the property, >> south, right? Okay. >> And maybe to elaborate on that, going where Russ was going is if if you cannot reorientate the building, you mean if you can, is you mentioned the burm, right? And I do think that's an important piece, right? So, enter the berm, how high the green barrier would be, and then what a fence could possibly
look like, right? To to show how much it would shield behind. >> Yeah. I I didn't understand the fence. Was that more for safety or more for screening? >> Both. Actually, both. >> Both. Yeah, both. >> Okay. So, we're in the middle of the
voting to close the public hearing. >> So, by roll call to close the public hearing, right? >> Continue it. >> Continue it. Yes. Yes. >> Yep. >> I I >> I >> So folks, the public hearings be continued to Tuesday, July 7th, 2026, uh
with the meeting starting at 6 p.m. You'd like to attend that meeting, that's when the hearing will be continued on this matter. Thank you. >> Close. >> You guys continue the hearing so you don't have to close it. We still have an open meeting, folks. So we ask that you
please leave a quiet fashion. Thank you, Cassie. I would say give a few minutes for clear out. >> I labeled your last her name right here. >> All right. >> I move that we table under old business
item A zoning discussion town charter mixeduse zoning bylaw. B zoning discussion recreational vehicles on private property. Then moving on to item seven seven as well as planning and community director's report. I move to table those till our next
meeting. Oh, you don't want me to give my report? >> We want to go home. >> Take a shortened version. >> Okay. One second. >> If we don't let you, then wait a minute. This still count. >> Motion on the table. Is there anyone to second that? >> Second. >> All in favor by roll call. Russ. >> Yes.
>> I >> I >> I >> I >> All right. Great. That matter passes. Go ahead. You have your one minute. >> Yeah, you got one minute. >> Time's up. Okay. >> We know you're leaving. So, >> see you next week. >> That was even a minute. That's it. There's a red hand on there. Get going.
>> All right. Well, uh, you know, I sent you all an email earlier. I am resigning my position effective July 2nd. >> Uh, I am going to move out to Eastern Massachusetts and work for the town of Welsley as their new planning director. >> Oh. >> On the 8th of July. So, I have a mini
vacation between those two times. But, um, I appreciate everything you guys have done as a board. I learned a lot from you. Hopefully, I taught you a lot of stuff, too. I've learned a lot from you. Yeah. >> Oh, really? Thanks. Oh, shucks. I appreciate that. Um I I made your permitting process a lot easier for
folks and I hope that brings more business to town, helps residents improve their properties as well as help amend our zoning rags to make it easier for folks to live in town and to work here. So, I appreciate everything. Um can I get my actual updates or do you guys not want me to do that?
>> Yeah, go ahead. Hurry up. Fire away. 30 seconds. >> Well, can I say something? Yeah. So, >> um I think I've been on this board now eight years, five as chair, and I think you're the seventh or eighth individual who has been working with the planning
board. And I'm going to say without question, you were the best. >> You were the most you were the most professional. You are the individual who communicated more so with not only the chair, but also members of the board.
You were organized. You were efficient. You you you learned to understand the town in very short order, which is a difficult thing to do. >> And so I sing your praises. And the town of Welssley is very lucky to have you.
>> No, we're going to deny his resignation. >> Yeah. I got a move. I got a motion for that. >> I appreciate you not having so you so to speak signed to put in the ground here. You just did a a good job. >> All right. >> Yeah. Happy job. >> Appreciate it, guys. Thank you. I uh
learned a lot from you, too. I've learned about this town. It's a very great place to work. Very great place to live. I don't live here, but I'm sure people like living here like it >> is here. Yeah. Um but yeah, no, I I appreciate that. Thank you. That you make me tear a little bit, Russell. How dare you. Um
>> All right. >> Yeah, but I appreciate the nice words. Just a few quick ones. I promise. >> All right. >> So, we had our first open space erect plan kickoff meeting today for our working group. Bill Fona was supposed to be on that list. I don't know if you want to be on it. Do you want to be left off with >> No, I I I meant to I've been so busy. I
meant to tell you I don't get out of work till 3:30, so that's why I wasn't there. Okay. >> And I know it was virtual. I'll stay on it. But like I said, >> you just got in the way. >> So I I put your email with Pioneer Valley as like you're you're like the board for that. It's their formal committee.
They're just discussing how to like give feedback to them while they do their plan update. Nothing. >> What are they? They're opening re They're re >> they're updating it. >> Updating the open space plan. >> Yep. >> So we can get those park grant funds to improve. >> I was on the other one. I'll stay on this one. >> Okay.
>> I got at least another year. >> Well, they have your emails. Just make sure you respond to the emails when they come box. Okay. >> Spam. >> Uh so the second to last update I have uh Sir Rear Peas Road. We are finalizing the decommissioning bond agreement with
the developer. Um talked to our attorney. He likes the agreement. Um, fire department is okay with their access, all that stuff. Um, but we're working to get that ironed out with our finance department. Um, >> Peas Road. >> So, it's a rear Peas road solar. It's
that project that's on the state line in Connecticut project. They have half of Connecticut. Yep. >> Lastly, uh, town management has asked somebody to start going to our PVPC committee meetings. I don't I think it's Pete. He's a rep. Do you still go to
those meetings or no? >> Valley Planning Commission. >> I'm not taking another one on. I'm I'm on the wrong side of the fence for that. >> So, do you want somebody else to go in yourstead? Cuz George Kingston is supposedly going to resign from being the alternate.
>> Oh, yeah. That's right. I heard >> we're going to lose our representative to the Pioneer Valley Planning Committee. >> I don't know how the board feels about that. >> I I have made a couple of recommendations to the town manager. I've not heard back on what he's done with that. >> Could you Could you tell me who those
were so I can remind him about plenty? >> No, I I'll do it in private. >> Tell me after this meeting, please. >> I I will try to remember. Yeah, my my main lobster is waiting for me.
>> How's the weather up there in Portland, Russell? >> It is a glorious day. I went for a 4hour sale. It was >> because tomorrow I'm a presenter for three hours in the morning. So it's >> painful. Painful.
>> It's painful. Yeah. >> Good luck to you, sir. Enjoy that nice weather. Hopefully you get more days to go sailing. Um that's all I had, folks. Thank you. That's my last meeting. Wow. >> I was going to say, right? >> So going Okay. Seriously, going forward, how does this look >> for this project?
>> No. Who's going to be sitting there? >> Is there anyone? >> I don't know. Uh, I'll be honest with you guys, the economy is not great. A lot of people who usually go to the private sector are going to be looking for public sector jobs. >> No kidding. >> Potentially might be somebody there. I think for now, town management is going to sit in on the meetings for the
playing board cuz Alex is really busy with Com. Um, >> yeah, >> he won't have the capacity to do this and that. Like there's a lot of conservation stuff going on. >> Um, >> but for now, it might be vacant for some time. Um, >> I don't know. But there's a lot of capable planners in the region. I think
somebody's gonna come in and fill my shoes. >> Let's hope. All right. >> So, we have one other maj one other major announcement that Rob Terrell has been reappointed for a 5-year term. So, welcome. >> Walked in at the wrong time. Immediately
after we got this today, folks, don't forget >> his outside voice. >> I did. She did. >> Made it nice and loud. >> What you doing? Not in here. >> Not in here. You channeled Cassy's voice for me. >> All right, do it. Thank you. >> Do I have a motion to adjurnn?
>> So moved. Second. >> By roll call. Russ. >> Yes. >> I I buddy