Want me to start over? No. Applicant Zember Group LLC care of John Wolia 14664600 Detroit Avenue Sweet 1500 Lakewood Ohio. Relating to the applica applications filed with the Department of Planning
and Community Development is available for public inspection at the town hall 60 center square. To view an electronic version, go to ww.gov for the board James Channing clerk. >> Okay. Um do we have anybody here uh on
behalf of the petitioner? If you want to step forward, give your name, address. Thank you. Good uh good evening. Uh my name is Johnilla, a applicant or petitioner for this item. Uh with me today is Joe De Hamill with
Depre Engineering. So they're our local engineering consultant. Behind me in the first row, Justin Bruce also with the Zera Group is here along with Ethan Turney. Ethan is the retail or the area manager for Bridgestone Retail
Operations out of Springfield. So he's the operational folks if you have any questions relative to the uh proposed operation. Um, company I work for is Zerumba Group and we're located in Lakewood, Ohio, which is just west of Cleveland. We have the property under
contract to purchase. Uh, we are a preferred developer with Bridgestone Retail Operations. We have the privilege of working in approximately a dozen different states right now. Uh, developing new stores for them. Most of them are under the Firestone Complete
Auto Care Center, which was what's being proposed here. Um, I'll talk about the site plan. I'll talk about the area. I'll talk a little bit about Bridgestone or Firestone, I should say, and I'll turn it over to Joe to talk more about the site plan and the variances that
were request. Um, you could go to the slide that the area first. As mentioned, we're at 546 North Main Street, just east of the Friendly's Restaurant on the south side of uh South
Main Street, uh or North Main Street, I should say. Um as was mentioned, uh the zoning district is a business zoning district and we're proposing a Firestone complete autocare uh center. Um the next slide,
this is a copy of the survey that we had prepared. Um, so it's about a 0.92 acre lot. Uh, can I get up and point to this? Yeah, so we have uh North Main Street here.
Uh, there's the Friendly's Restaurant building sitting there. The existing building is located here. Uh, there's a couple canopy structures. One that's just west of the existing building along with the canopy structure towards the back. and the previous use was a
commercial produce facility um that looks like it looks to have been vacant for a couple of years. Uh what's unique about the site is not only do we have the North Main Street uh right away to the north but to the east is Laundry Place which is a a right of way uh never
built but there are utilities in LaRan Place uh along with Amaretta Avenue which is just to the bottom of the screen. So that's also public right away used more as utility easements because there's are there are utility facilities in both of those uh rights of way. Uh
the property are is two different lots and uh the front lot is lot 761 and the back lot is 76 AC. You can see this line is the zoning district change line. So
the the rear lot which is not as deep as the front lot does have the zoning district change uh from the uh commercial use to the uh residential use. And do you know the distance from
the the you know on the plan and maybe uh from the the zone line cuz I I think the back part of that the second lot is res. >> Yes. >> Yes. That's correct. Yeah. We have the
dimension um >> 81 and you want I can show you on the screen or I can just tell you the answer except >> you can do both. >> Okay. And so if you put the very last slide, Rob, that would be helpful. >> Sure. >> So, uh, that 26T dimension is from the
rear property line that we have under contract to the zoning lot line. And uh it looks to be a little bit the the second lot or the second the north part of that lot. It looks to be a slightly larger than a 26 ft. So that
over there is 26.1. So basically there's 26 ft of the property that we have under contract that is own the residential use or residential zone I should say not use. Um if you could go back to um slide
see we were on six five. If you go back to five that would be helpful. >> Sure. >> Yeah. >> All three. We were on three. >> Three. Um it is mostly gains in the front. There's a small island where there's a pole
sign. Um and you know a lot of paving in the back. Um it's primarily developed in that that southern lot. Um the existing operations I should say is primarily undeveloped. Um you could go to the next
uh yeah that just shows a picture of the existing conditions Google um Google Street View. So it just shows the existing building and the main building is behind the pylon sign with
the canopy structure to the right there. Um go to the building rendering which is slid this is a view of the proposed building that uh we're presenting. Again it's a
Firestone complete auto care center. It's an eight bay facility. So on the back side is where the uh eight service bays have their entrance. Uh the customer entry is where the the the red feature is. Uh so that's where the
customers would enter and talk to the gentleman people in the store and that's where the small waiting area is. And then the rest of the facility and it's about a 6600 square foot building. Uh the rest of the facility is the service base. Uh it is an upgraded building. Uh
we have storefront along the front uh facing uh North Main Street. Additional storefront that we typically don't provide along the west facing friendlies. Uh go to the next slide which shows a colored up elevator.
Do you want me to go to the next slide? Please. So this is the south elevation. So you can see the service bases. Same same theme throughout on all four elevations. We have the bump ups. The primary building material is called nichi. It's
a decorative panel, a cementious material. And then there's also some decorative nasi along the base. Uh the north elevation is what faces north main street. Uh this west elevation is what faces towards the friendlies. Again, we have our customer
entry there highlighted by the red entry feature again with decorative storefront that we normally don't provide along with uh decorative awnings uh in multiple locations. And then the east elevation which would face east again
has the same nichi material. So again, it's an upgraded uh building um that we think fits in well with with the area. And and in terms of the bays, will they back out of the bays? >> Yeah. >> When they come in?
>> Yeah. >> They back back out. >> Yeah. There's um if you go to the site plan, anyone maybe right above it is fine. >> Yeah, that's fine. There's quite a bit of an quite a bit of area between the parking and the bay doors, so they can
pull in back in. Uh you know, we do have truck delivery. the trucks can easily maneuver the site either whether coming in from the west or coming in from the east. >> And how high are those those bait drawers? I mean, my my concern is uh
trucks um that would pull into the bay for work and they backup beepers. Um I I just am concerned in terms of uh you know trucks that would be backing out and the beeping noise that you get when
they're doing in reverse. Yeah, >> that noise to buffer that and >> keep that from the neighbors. >> But I I didn't know what the the overhead. I mean, could I drive a panel truck in there? >> Yeah.
>> Service. Uh >> we have the ability to, but it's not it's >> Well, I just didn't know how much. But I am concerned because a car typically wouldn't have a backup beeper, but you know, if you had a panel truck or other types of trucks getting the service, I don't think a pickup truck would have
that, but a panel truck or any other truck would have a beeper from that. >> That's the minority. >> And I I think the typical door height is about 8 ft, the bay doors, and it's your typical kind of >> Yeah. One I just want to make because
the most your your trucks are bigger than 8 ft. >> 8 ft. Yeah, it might be 10 ft. >> Well, let me give you a copy. It's not really dimensioned off of the elevation, but it's either eight or 10 ft.
>> I mean, the type of vehicles that these general stores have, is there any particular percentage that's either more residential or commercial? Uh yeah, the typical vehicle is u you know a pickup truck, cars like you know Ethan
mentioned very very few panel trucks. Um so a little bit about if you go to the back of the ele slide seven that help. So the typical hours for the Firestone Complete Auto Care Center is 7 a.m. to
700 p.m. Monday to Friday. uh 7 to 6. So 7 am to 6 pm on Saturday and then 9 to5 on Sunday. >> You mean the Saturday again? >> Saturday is 7 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. >> Okay.
>> And Sunday is 900 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Uh very clean and efficient operation. Uh there's no heavy engine work, no body repair done. All the work is performed inside the building.
uh typically uh about 14 employees with eight employees on the largest shift working at the facility. You could go to the colored up site plan six would be helpful.
We have both the engineered site plan that Joe worked on and that was one of the previous slides that has a lot of dimensions but th this plan is helpful in that with the colors it shows pavement versus buildings. So we we do have the 25 ft building set back off of
North Main Street that provides a good opportunity for buffering there. Uh we also have an area in the back which is shown with the kind of the lighter green area here. So that that is meant to be a
a buffer area, landscape area, screening. Um that there is there would be some grade change particularly in this area. The existing ground goes up quite significantly. So we we would anticipate some some retaining wall back
here. So the firestone would sit lower than uh the property behind us. As you go east though, it gets it decreases because this is relatively flat I guess for lack of a better term. So it does
decrease on that. So if we like have a retaining wall to what extent I'm not exactly sure. Uh we have >> the maximum height do you know of of the retaining wall? >> Um probably back here I'm guessing uh in the 6 to 8 foot range. >> It's going to be a block or a concrete.
Um, it it probably be a concrete poured in place retaining wall. It would be visible from the Firestone would sit lower, so it' be visible from the Firestone. >> Yeah, it' be visible from North Bank Street, but >> Yeah.
>> necessarily visible from the tank. >> Yep. >> Um, trash. Is that the trash in the far corner? That's where the dumpster is. >> That's exactly right. So, it's a fully enclosed masonry enclosure there. There's also a used tire enclosure that's behind it and that has a roof on
it and so they they store the used tires there and then the used tires get picked up out of that. So it's a >> Yeah. And when are those pick up and deliveries? I mean it it's you know Yeah. Because you you got a neighborhood somewhat near there. And my concern is I
want to try to make sure that it's not happening in the middle of the night or in the morning. >> Yeah. I'm sorry. that the deliveries are how you're op, you know, open and operating. >> Teammates receive them from from the truck. It's never when they're outside. >> Okay. No, I just didn't know like the
dumpsters in some cases come at, you know, weird hours and people get upset when they hear the uh the backing up at 3:30, 4:00 in the morning. >> Yeah. >> Um >> Yeah. So, um, that was what I wanted to talk
about on the on the items. And with that, I'll turn it over to Joe to talk more specifically about the site plan and the variances that were requested. >> How you doing? Good evening. I'm Joe Daml, the pre-engineering. I'm a project manager. Um, been working with Zamber
Group close to a year on this, nine months on this project. Um our office performed the on the ground survey boundary survey uh site utility um survey uh topographic survey and
developed a existing conditions based plan and then worked with the team on um developing the site plan as part of the review of the project. Um there's a few unique conditions as part of the varants
um request. Um John John spoke of the multiple frontages along North Main Street, three frontages along the site. Um the we have the split zoning condition and um I believe you touched upon um the
friendly store on the left west side of the site. Um if you see on the existing conditions plan, do you want to pull it back up? Sorry, >> please. Yes, I can do that. as well provide survey. We've um delinated some
permanent approaches that the abing are permanent and um can't be disturbed as part of our development. So, um I'll get into a second, but a lot of our development is um restricted, if you will, on this western
side. John spoke of the topographic of the site. It rises from um goes from the southwest at 227 down to the corner of North Main Street to 214. So, there pitch across the site. Um so coupled
with the uh frontages tying into the existence u site features encroachments on the left and the topography of the site. We uh we work to develop the site go to that next.
Thank you. So what we did for this site to develop based on the site constraints, we worked from the existing curb cuts um work on the operations of the site to develop the minimum need for this for this
project to make it make it viable. Um we held the edge of the encroachments on our west. We looked at the minimum wall distances and heights in order to develop the the site and the the truck turning movements into the project. So
we have this continual flow from North Main Street and then a secondary using that existing access onto Long Place. >> So that entrance is going to be an entrance only or is it an exit and entrance to one to the west?
>> At this time it's it's full access in and out. Okay. >> Um we the site has existing utilities. We intend to um leave the existing services
or on for the parcel or on land in place. Um intend to approve those um for the future development of the project. Um there's additional engineering and work that would have to take place, but we we
have landscape areas in the front along North Main Street to the rear of the property along the uh parking parking spaces and um access um I'm sorry main door access would be on the western side of the
proposed building with ADA compliant spaces. Um building. So, as far as the application, we're the variance request we're requesting is a sideyard setback or front yard setback, excuse me, off of uh laundry in
its place of 19 ft and then a relief from the split zoning off of um on the rear of 81 ft. Um I don't I don't mind talking about the variances. Do you want to go to the last slide?
>> Sure. >> Could you just um clear state what the the relief is? Just show the public >> Yeah, I will. >> So, we put this together to show the variances that we're requesting. So, this orange dash line here is the 100
foot set back from the split zone line where it's it's zoned residential to the south and business to the north. So this 100 foot offset line is this orange dash line. So this so the code says automobile automobile use to be 100 ft
from a residential zone. So um right now we have 81 81.5 ft. So the relief or 81 ft. So the relief being requested is 19 ft in that area. I I'll stick with that
variance request for for the moment. Um, what what I wanted to point out is so there's an additional 26 feet of the residential zone property that we we would own and maintain and wouldn't intend to do anything with it. Additionally, further to the south is
the rightway for Amaretta Avenue and that's 50 ft. So the the first residential property to the south is 81.5 plus the 26 plus the 50.2 if that makes
sense. So 81 u 26 and then the 50 50 ft. So that's uh 157.7 ft in actuality from our proposed building to the closest point to the the first
residential property or the residential properties south of >> property line >> uh Amaretta Avenue. Yeah, the property line for the residential properties to Amaretta Avenue. So we think that's an important uh factor that uh it's it's actually 157.7 ft to the res to the
actual residential properties to the south. Um and and again we we intend a huge buffer to the south uh with you know louning landscaping fencing uh to to provide that buffer. >> And there'll be fencing on the top of the wall.
>> Yeah. Well, >> is it going to be on the ground or is it >> Yeah, I was thinking we'd mound it up and then put plantings on both sides, but then put a a board on board fence on top of the mound. So, sixoot fence on top of perhaps a 4ft mound. So, you'd
have 10 foot and and and the the the parking field would be lower than that. So, uh we think that's a good a good buffer. >> So, that's the first variance. The second variance is the setback from uh
laundry place. You know, as mentioned, that's a a 50- foot or that's a public rightway. Uh our proposed U building is the the blue part is what encroaches into that uh 25- ft front setback. So
just like we provide the 20 foot 25 ft front set back here uh the there's the same 25 foot required set back uh along place and our our closest distance there is 6 ft so we're looking for 19t of
relief uh on the south side our closest point is 19.2 2 ft or let's say 19 ft. So, we're looking for 6 foot of relief on the south side. Um the existing condition is is very similar to that
with the existing uh building that's there now. Uh it's similarly located where where our proposed building is. Uh we had looked at trying to avoid uh that variance by shifting the building, but that would require parking in the
rightway and we didn't think that was a good idea. There's currently signage along the fence there, no parking, keep that area open. So, uh that's uh the second variance that we're requesting. And again, this, you know, the the intent of the, you know, providing a
nice buffer to the rightway, it's it's more of a almost serves more like an utility easement to the town. Uh when we first started looking at the property, we did talk to the uh public works department and that they had no objection to us driving on that uh
similar to what currently happens uh provided we don't change the grade and impact the utilities that are in that rightway. So those are the two variances that were >> now the utilities are they that serve this building are they going to be coming in from Monogan Price or all all
coming in from North Maine? They ex they exist right now off land longer in place. So we we intend to improve those and keep those. Um >> so like where's the bathroom going to be in >> the sewer? So the sewer is off longer
than water. Actually >> water and sewer is you know I'm assuming there's got to be a bathroom there. >> Yeah. The uh generally we we can take the sewer out either this side or this side. that
that's I just don't know whatever what was planned. We >> do it both ways. Okay. >> Uh for this proposed building um with the utility being available there, we probably choose to do it there. >> Looks like a shorter. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And the water >> and and there is an oil water separator
for the inside the base when there's dripping. So the oil water separator gets located outside the building and that would be uh located in that same area. So, we we developed a plan uh you know
being sensitive to the the zoning uh that's in place for the property. We think it's the minimum variance needed uh to still fit the needs of a a new commercial use. Uh it would be a a
significant improvement with a nice new building, a nice clean operations. Uh uh we're providing a a nice buffer to the residential staff.
We think the buffer the request for our variance along uh laundry place is consistent with the current operations. So it's not going to be detrimental because it's really replicating what's what's there now. Um so we're um
that's about our presentation. Um again we're uh open to any questions. Um we have operations here if it's more operational questions, more engineering questions. >> I guess one of the questions I had was is the concrete because it doesn't show on your your pictures. Does the concrete
sidewalk kind of continue across the curb cut? >> I mean, cuz your pictures are a little deceptive because the if you look at the picture, it doesn't show the the sidewalk continuing. >> Yeah, I noticed that this afternoon. If
you go to the site plan, uh, >> yeah, the site plan shows it. >> That actually shows the new concrete sidewalk through allowance. >> I mean, assume it'll be the same width as what's there currently. >> Yeah. Yes. >> Our colored up site plan didn't pick that up. Very,
>> but I I just wanted to make sure the the sidewalk was going to continue across the apron where you're coming in. >> Yes. Yes. Absolutely. >> There would be ramps there to transition down also race >> with um a typical 8 bay facility. What's
the park what's the typical parking associated with that? >> Yeah. Um, Firestone requires for us that we provide uh about 30 stalls uh anywhere from 25 to 30. I think we're at 29 on this site. >> Yeah, 29 including the two handicap.
>> Yeah. So, that's more than sufficient for our needs. >> Um, what's the what's the intended use of Lander Place? >> So, is function like it's functioning now? It would be Yeah, we mill and
resurface the pavement area because it's deteriorated. We wouldn't go any further than it currently is paved down. Uh so if you were to go out there, you you'd see there's pavement in this area for the previous use and then it just kind
of stops and then it's more of a kind of a grass. So that that's the intended use is replicate what's there now. We would improve the pavement that's there now and not extend it any further. open to access and egress
for people coming off of North Main. Yes. >> Yes. This this would be a full service, a full access drive, but not beyond that point. So, it it'd be it facilitate the maneuvering into and out of the site. We we would expect this would be the primary entrance with the the entry
feature to the building, but uh we >> like now it would be two full access curb cuts is what we're proposing. >> We're going to improve the radius radi on the uh on the existing uh road to improve that training mobility.
So deliveries and dump trucks would come down. >> Not dump. Oh, you mean like uh >> to get the trash in the in the tires? Yeah, >> probably. >> Yeah. >> Either either or >> or come through, turn around, back up to there.
>> Yeah. A lot a lot of the deliveries are front loaders for the dumpster. So, that would probably come in off of uh on the east of east curbcut. The truck, the deliveries would would maneuver, you know, probably anticipate
maneuvering this way and then leaving the site or coming in on the west and exiting the site on the east. or could do the other way too. >> But all the all the activities will be with within the bays and will the doors be open. >> Um
>> I mean I'm just concerned about noise those air those air things are pretty loud. Um and I'd like to as much as possible keep those those bay doors shut when work is going on. >> Yeah. >> Because they are loud. Um, I don't know,
you know, how far that noise goes, but >> 90 dB for one of those air machines and it can travel up to a mile and a half >> with uh fences. >> Yeah. Well, that's why I want to make
sure that uh in terms of the this stuff that there's protections for the neighbors that we don't have uh >> you know, >> generally they they do operate with the doors open. Uh if if the board wants to p place a condition that they operate with the doors closed, we're we're okay
with that condition. Mr. Chair, can I say something real quick? Uh just so I don't get too too far off topic, but you know, this hearing is just for the variance issue. A lot of the stuff that you're bringing up is actually probably going to go to the planning board if this gets approved after the fact because the use you're proposing is
allowed by right in this district, but it will need site plan review because you're constructing a brand new building. And typically a lot of those concerns like with the noise, you know, buffering affecting neighbors, all of that will come up during that public hearing later on. And of course, all the
abunders who are notified about this hearing will get renified about that planning board hearing after the fact. But but one of the things I want I am concerned with is we do grant the variance because it is we don't give the full buffer is to make sure the noise from our point of view isn't going to go
to the neighborhood because we're trying to keep it in and you know with the intent and purpose of the buffer zone uh to try to limit that noise. Um >> just for clarification purposes I want to make that. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, no, but I mean I think we still have the right as part of our
variance to to say, "Hey, out of the rear of that building to be limited uh and that they don't have the things opening and hearing air guns uh going off all day." Um cuz I know those very loud. >> Yeah. The typ we did a noise study
recently on a project up in Michigan that we we developed a couple years ago and uh the typical tire lug nuts is a >> no not the other one for the impact wrench impact wrench is the typical lug
nuts. Uh the impact hammer is the louder one. Um impact hammer is not used that often. Uh the impact wrench is used a lot because of the lug nuts. Uh t typically they operate uh in in the colder cl in the colder weather this
bays are heated so the doors are closed uh and then uh typically they're not it's not airond conditioned space but again if the board would uh if that's a concern and board wants to impose that condition we're fine with it that the store operate with the doors closed.
In your um presentation, you you said that you had looked at other alternatives that potentially might not require a variance. Can you talk about what the alternatives were and why you arose or why you resulted in in the
current >> Mhm. >> Yeah. Um again with the two variances, you know, one idea was to u push the building that way, but with the parking the park on the laundry in place and
we're we're at we're at the parking that we need for our our operations. Um the second one was to you know rotate the building up kind of like friendlies is kind of rotated up to bring that up this way. We we would be within the 25 ft
setback. So, we we made the decision, well, let's just request this variance, maintain the nice 25- ft buffer along North Main Street, recognizing that we're 157.7 ft to the first residentially used
property. And then with you know with the the buffering and the the back system alone we felt it would be better to provide that 25 ft set back and and requested the variance here.
I know you mentioned customers would come into the the entrance on the west principally, but nothing would stop a customer from coming in longer in place and going in that way in addition to exiting. So, as I look at it, where I would probably be
exiting is longer in place. that just feels more natural, especially if my the car gets backed out into one of those back spaces. Um, is that a fair read of the Yeah. >> And this I mean the store the store
entrance is on on the western side opposite of the blue. So where the handicap is. So naturally cars and people visiting are going to want to be in those front spaces along friendlies and then fill into the back as needed.
>> Yeah, it's it the customers are destination. So they they they'll know that this is their entry. So we would fully expect this would be the the primary entrance that they want the shortest walk to the uh entry door to the building which is right there.
We have a sidewalk connection to North Main Street and there'll be a pil sign as well. Any other questions from any board members? >> No, I think I cover everything. >> Did Jim ask a question?
>> I don't have I don't have anything right now. I think I will soon. Okay. >> Do you want me to keep the plans on the screen uh throughout the rest of the year? >> Okay. >> Yeah. I would like >> I think that would be helpful. Thank you. >> Yeah. I'll keep the the the zoning one
up so you can look at it better. >> Thank you. >> Yep. There we go. Uh, is there anybody else to speak in favor? >> Yep. >> State your name and address.
>> Uh, Ralph Page, 137 Keys Road, East Long Swan Meadow. Um, >> just a a heads up to folks who are in the audience. So, the mic will only pick you up if you're sitting at this table. So, if you're saying stuff back there, we're not going to be able to hear you very well on the Zoom and stuff. So, if
you want your statements to be on the record, you have to do it from up here on the table. >> I just had a couple questions. Um, can I go to the screen? >> Yep. Yep. >> Um, over on this side right here, this is one of them, >> correct? Um, this appears to be this
triangle here, asphalt. And I would assume that they're going to be asphaltting part of their front area in order to access the dumpster. Um, because I I've done some calculations. The large truck coming in here, I don't believe there's enough room to turn,
pick up the dumpster, and then come back out. So, I think they're actually going to do this so that um trash trucks will be coming in LaRin to get the trash. They may back out and go that way. Um, >> and I think it's currently paved as I recall.
>> Um, just lag. >> Yeah, they lag. I think it's probably outside of Lanigan that I could see. When I when I went up to the site, it looks like it's already paved. Um, where the the the flower shop or wherever the uh that thing I think next to it, it's
paved right up to the building. Um, I do have a question and again I I'm just trying to go back in my memory. I thought we had um on all frontages a 10-ft landscape buffer that was required. And again, I may be right, I
may be wrong. Obviously, there's one on North Main Street. They're going to be looking to do 25. But if it's on all frontages, then there should be a landscape buffer on Lagrin, which it doesn't look like they're going to be providing, >> right? I mean, I think
>> and would they need >> maybe we got a pre-existing Well, it may also be >> the impervious service is already there. They're kind of grandfathered in that way, but they are providing it towards the front and the rear. So, they're already hidden those two areas. I know there's also a requirement for landscape
buffer. I think it's 25 ft from any neighboring um residential properties. which is which is what they're also doing on the rear as well. And the two properties to the sides are commercial. So that I think a lot of that layout is already what exists today and they can
kind of work off of what's there already. So if this was a brand new project where it's already, you know, there's no impervious surface whatsoever, then those rules would strictly apply. I would normally say yes except they're tearing down the whole building and you know they're be tearing
up everything which really >> takes away from a pre-existing condition. Um but that um in the back of the property, one thing I did like uh that I noticed was that they were going to be doing an ANR to join the back lots
and make this one whole parcel. Um, which I think is great because then down the road, >> no chance of them selling off a part of the back or anything and saying, "Well, you know, that's a separate lot." >> Um, as far as in the back, um, I know
they had talked about doing like a 4ft BM. Um, nothing is shown though, and we all know if it's not on paper, they don't have to put it in. And if they're going to do a fence for noise, six foot fence with a burm really should be
included. Um board >> that would be >> well that would be one of potentially one of our conditions. >> And I'm not sure if and again the neighbors would be able to speak better on it whether a fence on top of a burm would be more appealing or larger arbor
vites or something on that idea. Um >> I think you know just advice to the applicant if this were to get approved and moved on to the planning board uh dimensions and rendering showing those different features would definitely be needed on site plans for the planning board. Thank you.
>> Like I said overall I think the layout cleaning up the place I think this is a lot more feasible than a >> Yeah. I mean it's a very difficult site cuz it's very narrow and and being in two zones >> and I didn't realize that it was actually furniture on three. Uh >> yeah,
>> although they're not uh >> they're not heavily traveled ways. >> Exactly. But again, it does create front of Gen 3, which makes a lot a lot more >> Monogan, I believe, is only a private way, isn't it? >> But it's still considered a right of way. >> Yeah. No, no, it's a right of way. I'm just saying it's it's a but it's not a
public public way. >> So, if they're going to be reassphaltting, do they have to bring it up to town standards? >> I believe so. Even if it's a private right of way, it still has to be the same standards as any public way. Okay, that's all I got. Thank you.
>> Thanks, Ralph. >> Any other people that have questions or speak in favor? Hearing none, I'll now open it up to anybody who wishes to speak in opposition or questions. >> Yeah. Hi. >> Hi.
>> My name is Bernardet Bonner. I live at two Wanderan Place. Um the first residential that they're talking about is my house. Um a concern on this with the with like the the
things that they're asking for and the traffic of the trucks. That's my that is still my like road that I use. I park in the front in in the summer, fall, spring. Um and the same with the that road that was also paved. They're both
paved. What happened is when the a tree fell down and um the owner of that site put a whole bunch of dirt down to like even it out. So, it was all paved, but because it's a private way, you have to >> private people have to take >> private people have to pay for it. So,
that's why it's never been paved again cuz that's very expensive. Um, but my concern is cuz that's like only the 20 like the 25 ft for the road which I know is the legal amount for a road
but it's a small road and with the large trucks coming in there that is where ambulances come in. I'm also concerned from the fact the flower place before they don't care about those signs. They park there, the truck parks there. Not saying that that will happen, but this
is a place that's going to have much more traffic than the flower place. And I call like about three or four times a summer with the flower place, the cops, to get cars to be moved, so I can use it. >> Yeah. I mean, one of the things we could probably I mean, we don't have any control over the private way,
>> correct? um that would have to go through the you know the the court or something but we could basically indicate there's going to be no parking on the pave portion off of the private way. >> Yeah. >> Um you know to keep that now
>> show me roughly where your house is in on Lan. I I assume it's to the east >> down by where Emori is to the >> Yeah. If you can go >> Yeah. That's >> you're like that's
>> Why is my h my house is right here. >> Okay. >> Right. >> But I feel like this >> Well, it's it's you're like on the intersection. You're at the end of Lanigan and at the intersection of Amaretta right there. >> Could be the trees covering it, too. >> Probably the trees. >> Yeah, cuz my house is like there's not
that much space between my house and the road. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Um >> are you on the south side of the road or are you like on the north side of it? >> This is my road, right? This is my house right here. Okay. Yeah. >> This is like my yard right here. >> Yeah.
>> And again, I know like the a lot of my concerns because we've done this before with the other place that wanted to be here. Um, a lot of them are after this, but again, just the concern of a lot of that stuff. Um
because again and also just doing that one little bit is going to ruin the rest of the the pavement like because I still use it like >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean that's the problem with private waves. >> Yeah. >> Um you know it the neighbors can piggy
back off the work somebody else does and u they can wreck it but uh you know they the other person can't force them to fix it. >> I know. Thank you. >> Any other people wishing to speak? >> I'd like to speak.
>> Yeah. >> 12 Kingman Avenue. So, >> excuse pick up the pick up your >> You kindly state your name one last time. >> Richard Zamanic. 12 Kingman Avenue. >> Thank you. >> Um, I've lived in this town for 32
years. You You try to pull out a Lumbard and you might as well pack a lunch. That's at 7:30 in the morning. >> You can't take a left. >> I think the town is waiting for someone to die a very tragic death over there before they do anything with it.
Has that been accounted for the Firestone? Has there been a traffic study? >> That isn't in our purview here. That would become I would think part of the planning board. Um >> but that's even before the should >> but this is variance. They're they're
saying for particular reasons we want we we are going to ask for not having to meet the setback requirement on Lan and the rear setback 100 foot. Those are the two they're asking for. >> That makes no sense if you're involving three different streets then.
Well, I understand that's they're asking for variances off of Lan. >> Yeah. >> And from the back. Uh those are the two variances they're asking for. The question you're having in terms I can't force them to have a traffic study because we're not site plan. We're only
addressing the variances. Would you recommend that to the town or? >> Well, I I suspect the planning board will probably want some sort of a traffic study in terms of the amount of traffic that's going to be in there, but I I can't tell you that we're going to require a traffic study because it it
really is irrelevant to the uh >> it doesn't go with this board. >> We got about 4T of space there. >> Yeah. >> And then you're you're just trying to cram more into it. So the the the authority that's going to approve the construction of this building after the
fact, the planning board usually has a requirement that they do some sort of traffic study or trip count or some sort of information to get a better idea of what it's going to look like after the building's put there. >> And Firestone is probably one of the largest Firestone Bridgestone.
>> I work for a company. I used to be the finance manager over there. They used to be they they are one of the largest companies and they did not provide any kind of expected traffic to anybody so far. >> So not for this petition but they will for the next one after the fact. So this
petition only looks at the dimensional uh measurements of where the buildings can be placed on the property and that's pretty much the issue that the zoning board here is discussing tonight. So if we didn't grant the variance, they then couldn't put the building there and they
couldn't come in with a site plan to the >> Sounds like we're just chasing our tail here if it >> Well, no. The the planning board has more control. They'll control the lighting, the noise, the stuff, but we're we're considering the noise and the traffic uh and things, but our our it's the variance or because they have
to show based on the the layout of the of the parcel, the uniqueness of the parcel, and it's we're trying to keep in keeping with the >> And did anybody look at like Firestone's record of basically pulling Walmart on everybody
where they put one set of stations in, next thing you know, replacing it with a huge station and then that station you're closing in. >> Well, I mean part of our approval if we're going to approve something is going to be approved based on what they presented tonight and the plans they
presented. Now, they may amend them because the planning board may want other things that that we're we're not going to address. So, I can't say that'll be the final plan, but it you know, they'll have to come back to us if there's going to be significant changes um to the plan that they've got. But you
know, one of the the conditions here is this gets built in accordance with the site plan and the the the stuff that's been presented, the the building plans that have been presented this evening. If it gets built in a different fashion um with different bay structures and
different locations cuz the planning board changes it, they'll probably have to come back to us. >> I agree with what Frank just said about if you're going to put buffers and everything else in, get it on paper. >> Oh, yeah. No, no, no. We we we we would have that as part of because if they
presented that they would have a wall and they put a a 4ft thing that would go above the wall >> next time any of you four gentlemen drive down. >> Right. But we don't have any specifics as to what the plantings are going to be. The planning board usually says we
want to know exactly what the plantings are going to be and where they're going to be with a planting plan. >> Next time next time you drive down Lumbard, you stop at that intersection. think of me and pack a lunch. >> No, it's terrible. I bet I'd come out of there. >> They put lights in all over this town
like it's no tomorrow. And over there, it's like, well, it's only that part of town. >> Yeah. I mean, you're better off to take get a take a right and then go to the lights where the shopping center is to get out >> living on the other side of town. Okay, I'm I'm all set. Those are my
questions. >> Okay. Thank you. >> I'll be here for future meetings. Patty Alex, I'm at 125 Smith Avenue in East Long Meadow. Uh, just have a question on the London Place. You know, it's a much higher elevation. So,
getting down into Lundan Place, there's a big drop. How are you guys going to address that? I don't know how to read this. So, how are you addressing that? By making things so much lower. It looks really nice on here, but how are you going to address that so it is not such
a big trip? No doubt. Drop going down. >> You okay? We answer that. >> Yeah. No, that's fine. Yeah. >> Okay. So we we haven't done filing yet, but uh you know there is the building that's there now is quite a bit higher than
laundry place and there's quite a steep uh drop off. We we don't have uh we're not sure what our final finished floor elevation will be but we we we will have to take into account that we are not planning any parking in this area. Uh but but it it
it would still have to be uh sufficient so that you can maneuver the space without you know being too steep because it it is very steep. >> Well, especially if you're going to have vehicles coming in and out there, >> right? >> And also lunging in place is very narrow and I know that was one of her concerns
of traffic. You're going to be pulling in and out in and out. >> Best thing would be it would be hard to make it one way because that would affect her, you know, entrance only, exit only or maybe entrance only pertaining to That's not our board, >> unfortunately. I
>> Yeah, >> we don't have jurisdiction over that. >> So, we don't have the final engineering of how, you know, what the grades will be like in that area, but it it'll have to be reviewed by the town. >> You'll probably have to keep your storm drainage on your site. >> What's the current distance from the
existing building to under? If you can go to the surveys, >> the distance from the current building to longer. >> 15 and 12 ft. >> 15 and 12 ft. >> If I can confirm that have to zoom in
here. >> If we zoom on the floor. >> Yeah, I my eyes just are not good. I saw it there, but I Yep. >> 15 ft and a half. the road. I mean, technically on paper it is 24 feet wide, but it's just because of the array change on the side of that building and
becomes narrow. That's we'll look to improve that in the future. >> So, technically the existing building is a non-conforming. >> It's a pre-existing non but you're going to be expanding the pre-existing non-conforming >> Yeah. >> thing cuz you're going to be actually
closer a little bit closer to the actual monogram than the existing building is. >> Well, they're tearing down the existing building anyway. >> Right. Right. But the the new building is going to be a little bit closer. So you're going to make the nonconformity a little more non-conforming. Are there any other people who would
wish to speak or comments? Going once. Going twice. >> Last chance if you want to speak. Yeah. >> Can I speak from here only because >> uh it the problem is we're being taped.
Uh and that may not pick you up from back there. If you walk this way, it'll be easier to get to us. Sorry about that. Just come up to the front here where the table is and the mic can pick you up very easily. My name is David V. Develi. I live on 61
Newberry Avenue in East Long Meadow. Um I my interest here is I have relatives who live right in that area. uh they're not here because somebody 83
is saying they're elderly. But I object to it only for the reason that I don't think it's the right business that should be there. The people who live on Rodri, their backyards are right.
They're going to live with looking at that. And I I'm familiar with the automobile thing. I I own an automobile repair place, but
this one operates 7 days a week. So the noise that the other lady was talking about and stuff, you're going to have that every day, you know. Um
I I have nothing against fire, believe me. I send them, but I I just don't think that it's the right business for that partial. and asking for variance
that this isn't a little bit. It's 19 ft. You said >> yeah 25 ft. Yeah. >> That's the that's the the the closest point the >> but that's it. That's
a great Thank you. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Um so is everyone that wishes to speak spoken? Hearing none. Um I don't know if you want to have any
rebuttal to what was said or whatever. Go back to the aerial with colored up sight plan. Uh not really a rebuttal, but just uh just that one. >> Yeah.
>> I'll zoom out a little bit. Sorry about that. >> Yeah, that's okay. Go go go out further. >> Yeah, that's that's good right there. this um that image there that kind of that shaded area that that's really from
Google Earth or Google Maps. There's there's really not pavement in that area. I I guess from the testimony we heard that maybe they uh put dirt on that, but there was pavement in there prior. Um again, we don't intend to u you know pave any further than what's
there now. >> There'll be a imperous surface. >> Uh it'll be a pavement. >> Okay. >> Impervious. Yeah. And it has to be the town standards standard. Uh but we we we only intend this limit is what's there now based on our survey. Uh we only intend to to
improve that area. You know, I guess if there's some request from the community to paint that further. I guess we could look at it. I I didn't realize from um visiting the site that some of the people drive this way. I I know this
house has a pool right there. So, it'd be difficult to drive. >> Well, they were on Rodri >> there. Yeah, that that house on Rodri, there's a driveway that ends and then there's a pool. So, I guess what the one of the neighbors said that they actually drive that way. I I didn't know that,
but you know, I don't know if there's any desire to pave that. I don't >> Yeah. I mean, the only thing I would probably ask is that there be a a gentle thing so you don't this cliff off of the end of where you pave and you know that there's a a gradual thing probably, but you know that's us more of a planning
board. >> We wouldn't intend to change the grades at all in this area. Significant there's utilities out there that public service is not going to want a significant grade change. >> Yeah. >> Any grade change. I just but I just don't want where you pay to have a big, you know, huge bump or something where
you lose the bottom of your car when you uh go from the dirt road onto the uh the pavement. >> Yeah. >> And I guess if you can go to the last slide. What's interesting to note is this zoning line
as it extends from the west. You know, it's same along here and then along Landre again place down. You know, it's almost like if that line were here, we wouldn't be talking about that. So, again, we we would still have that under contract. We couldn't
sell it. We couldn't do anything with it. Um yeah, that's that's it. Could I possibly clarify something? Cuz that's my house they're talking about. >> Um, that's a driveway and it's the back
of my house. The front of my house is on Amorda/ Laundry. So, yes, I do park cars there. But both me and then the other neighbor use that in the
anything other than winter because >> plow. >> Yeah. Oh, no, it does. Okay. >> They do. They plow it. Um, that's going to absolutely wreck the the idea of your road because they do plow it all the way down through. >> So, you can still access the other
street from your house, correct? Or is it only you can only access laundry again? So all my deliveries, >> all if I were to order takeout, >> if I get Amazon, if the police, fire,
>> ambulance, they all come from. >> Okay. >> I have, while I do have a driveway there, that is not my main >> access point for the town. On paper, my access point is Landregan Amoretta.
>> Okay. Thank you. question bring up the town officials. >> Yeah. >> So, I'm going to close the public portion of the hearing for comments except, you know, we'll wait to get comments. Any questions? Board Jim, do
you have any questions? >> See, no questions. >> No questions. >> Do you have any questions? >> Any questions? Um, no. I answer all my questions. >> Okay. >> So, um, as a result, we're going to close the public hearing. Um, I'll
entertain motions pro or for against the variance and we'll have to take a roll call vote. Uh, and if you want conditions um, and why you you believe it. So here here here's here's my issue, you know, and Dan's not here, so we can't he
can't talk all the reasons behind bars and all this stuff. The question that I asked about alternatives, the fact that there are alternatives is strikes me as to the need for a
variance. whether you truly do need a variance if you if you can position this building in a different way. The concern that I have is on the six feet buffer between the edge of the building and Lan
and with Lan being used for access and egress. I think that there are some safety issues that give rise to concerns in my mind. the back buffer. I I actually if it was if the only variance was the the south the southern
variance I I I think I could get there but I I have concerns over such a narrow window between cars coming in and out and the current usage of leran is not what is going to happen. 20 27 29
spaces with movement coming in and out every day all hours. That's going to get a lot of use. So, um, that gives me some real concern safety on on laundry.
>> From what I understand, from the the what they've discussed to me, that if they move the building to the west, they would lose parking and they may not have enough for parking and they'd have to get a variance for parking, which would create a problem, >> right? Um, I guess that's a concern. I
mean, I have your concerns about like that steepness, um the drainage, um the closeness to the road of the of the of the building. Um you know, in terms of there and you've got a you know, you're going to have a a dumpster truck going
in. I don't know how frequently they'll be coming in. Is that once a week, twice a week? >> Once a week. And what about the deliveries? >> Once a week as well. And the same thing with the removal of the old tires and stuff. >> Okay.
>> Every and all of those are during the operating hours. >> Yeah. >> If I could add as far as access on place, the proposed condition will create a 24 wide uh improvement of that
roadway. So right now it's got restrictions on the slopes that are into the side of the existing building. So now in the future case we'll modify the engineering and develop the site so that there's true two-way clear access uh for safegressing
>> but there'll still be a good size drop off pave drop off from the side of the building the uh east side of the building to Lan. Um, >> I don't know what the what the >> grades you can't really see much. So, it's kind of hard to see what grade
that's what. >> And by the way, I'm I'm for the improvement of this f this usage. It seems consistent with the nature. I mean, we've got Franks to the east, right? It's a consistent usage. I I just
I have a lot of concern over that very narrow. I mean, I think a lot of the issues we're trying to bring up are not really our board members issues other than things we want in the >> Right. Right. It it it part of it is we
have to address the public, you know, concern and protect the public good and that it's the the purpose of the intent is to make the building safe so vehicles don't hit the building uh cuz they're too close to the road. Um you know, those types of things. you know, it you
know, like mirrors and stuff, you know, hanging off the side of a big truck, you know, slamming into the side of the building is not what we're looking at to do because it's a narrow road and they're going to be going up and down. Um, so it is from what I can see.
Is it 6 ft? >> Yes. >> At the closest point, >> you go to the last slide and uh we have good dimension. Yeah, the dimension line though. >> I had to look at stuff on my computer. Um, all right. So, last slide.
>> Yeah, it looks like 6 feet is the closest. >> Yeah, right here. 6t, >> right? That corner. That corner. >> This corner right here is a 29.9 ft dimension 6T dimension to the building corner. Right. >> So, it's really about 36 ft from the
>> Right. What's the What's the setback requirement? >> The pavement 25. So we'd be giving a 20 19 foot variance on that >> on that corner. >> To be fair, the roadway from what it looks like, the road's about 25 ft long
or wide. >> Wide, right? >> 24. >> There's roadways in town that are way more narrower than that. >> Right. >> And just from a practical sense, from what I've seen other projects, that isn't sufficient with >> coming into and out of North Main is a
is is a is a problem. Is is an issue. >> Absolutely. Yeah. And it's it's it's not on a side street, >> right? >> It's just the big trucks coming in and out. >> Yeah. But we've only talked a couple deliveries. >> And that's why I asked the question on what the existing
I've got a I've got a a vision of of what that building is right now and another 10 ft. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, well, that's is a concern that I have in terms of being that close. Now whether the building um gets
pushed uh in the handy whether you have enough access aisle if you push the thing back you know 3 or 4 feet >> I think where it is is the best location for it. I mean >> yeah no I mean >> it's a good use of this property >> without a doubt it's it's the best use
that's been brought in front of us >> by far. >> By far. >> Jim. Yes. >> Any comments? >> I'm just curious there whether any possibility to just have seven bays or
if eight bays from a business standpoint is absolutely necessary. >> I thought of that too. I said >> what the final bay on the east side. It's it's not as big as >> Yeah, the door is not as big. It's they call it an alignment pit. So, I think it's where they do their front end alignments. For some reason, they don't
need the door to be as big as the other doors. >> They only do car alignments probably, right? Is that >> is that right? Yeah, >> it's just car alignment you do, right? You don't do any truck. >> Yeah, >> right. Just the rack. >> No repairs being made
>> in that last bank. Yeah. >> If since I I don't have the luxury of having a no vote from anyone. If if if there is a no vote, I'd like to before you vote, I'd like to know and then, you
know, the the concern is just the the narrowness of that corner. Uh I'd like >> Well, I that was my question. Could the building be moved? Um you because you have to have have a certain access aisle and you've got two handicap spaces, it
would be impacted and pushed back toward that. But if you moved it three or four feet uh and gave yourself nine or 10 feet >> the handicap spaces across the park. >> Yeah, you would you'd probably keep them. But if you move say three or four
feet, you'd move faces back three or four space, but you may still have adequate access um by just moving it. >> You wouldn't have that grass there. You're saying that little >> Yeah, you would might not have the grass, but I don't you may lose some of that you but have it in the parking
space would be moved. You just and I think you would have big enough. I just don't know the the dimensions of the access aisle between the thing. But that's the >> lo bay like Jim was saying. I thought >> and even if you lost one parking one that make a difference. >> We can't lose a bay. We can
>> No, no. I think you can lose a parking couple parking spaces. You've got a couple of spaces there right by friendlies >> um that are like right you know there's a small area there but >> we only talking five six feet right >> not over we can't move
>> within this limit of the existing >> yeah no right no but if you lost two parking spaces you'd still have 27 spaces which would be probably more than enough so if you did move the building >> on that >> you know >> what I'm saying is you could keep it
sort of the way it is parallel Now, move it further west >> three or four feet. >> Yeah. And we we >> and and you would give yourself instead of six feet from the edge of the road, you'd give yourself, you know, probably 9 or 10 ft, which I'd feel more comfortable with,
>> which is similar to what they have now there, I believe. >> I didn't measure it. I could >> 15, >> huh? >> It's 155 right now. >> Well, according to the dimension, I couldn't tell when I when when I looked up at the site because it's all paved. Um, so I I wasn't sure where Lanigan
began and ended when I when I went there. >> Possibly. >> Yeah. So, >> I mean, I'd give you the opport we're um we're okay obviously okay with being tabled and ask go back and look at that and come back next month.
>> Yeah. I'm thinking move it, you know, back. Just take it and keep on the same line, but just move it back where those handicap spaces is. What are those usually 10 12 ft? >> 9 or 9 20 19 18 or 20?
>> Uh, 8 by uh 20 or 20. >> Yeah. So, >> the um town code is 20 ft long. >> Yeah. So, if you got 20 feet and you're going to you got the sidewalk here. So, you're going to keep a sidewalk there. But I mean if you moved it 4 ft >> your request
>> I think you're still going to have probably a wide enough what's the access aisle have to be >> the exist the proposed w is 24 ft that's enough that's what you need for two-way access the road for the road you mean for the driveway and >> driveway >> again similarly for the >> but I mean you but if you lost one or
two spaces here you then would have an even you know what I'm saying >> I know what you're saying so u Mr. Chair, just to clarify the metrics. So, because this is a car service station, >> yes, >> they need three parking spaces per bay. So, since they Yep, exactly. As long as
they can keep at least 24. >> Yeah, they have 29 of them. They probably lose two of them maybe here. These one, two there. I'm thinking maybe three, >> but they'd still have 26. >> And the parking count includes handicap spaces. >> Yes. So if you still had the two
provided nearby within that 24 that meets our code. >> Yeah. >> So that's something else to keep in mind too. >> Gotcha. >> But I think if you just maybe lose the three three right up at the beginning right where the beginning of friend leaves but I think it it just makes it
it's still a drop off on the building but you're just being a little further from the road. I feel a little bit more. just cuz you got, you know, those trash trucks are good size and they got the wide mirrors and uh, you know, and stuff so they could see. It's like, and my
concern is that they'll probably pull straight in, but I'm hoping that they leave going out this way and not go down lan. I'm thinking they would probably come in. They would >> I mean, this seems to be the easiest and they could just do a small backup and then go back out. >> Right. Right.
>> Yep. But I would like I don't mind having it paved, but you're going to have still have a grade problem just because of the way the the land lies. Um, you're going to have it drop and you don't want to necessarily have to put a retaining wall there. But that's that's, you know, I'm
not an engineer, but I figure that could be work. But I just, you know, one of the issues is you got no other choice. And here you possibly have a choice to move the building to the west and you might be able to help.
>> And so your variance instead of a 20 or 19T variance, it'd be like a 14 or 15t variance. >> Understood. >> Yeah. >> And then the back you might you might not even need a variance.
>> Well, you would still have that wide side >> probably. Yeah. It would just less less. Yeah, >> it's 6 feet now. You know >> the variance. >> Well, not actually. No, it's 19 the narrow part the 19. It's 19 ft there and
6 ft, right? It's 25 is what you require, isn't it? Yeah. 19, right? >> No, no, no, no. It's 19 to get to the the the setback, >> right? They have to be 25. >> So, it's 6 ft the variance, right? If you move the
building four, they'd be need a two. >> They would go this way, right? >> Right. But you need a two. >> What? >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah. Well, the whole building moves. So, this would be Yeah. >> 4T. >> Yeah. So, it would be >> So, we got six. You might >> six. You may still have two foot. >> Two foot. Right. Right.
>> Would just be >> But it would make it a >> with less of a variance. >> Less of a variance, right? That's all >> I don't know. So I guess the the the concern on that side was just because the building seems like it's too close to the roadway, >> right? >> You're trying to see if you can shift it further away.
>> It's just, you know, because I can't guarantee it's a private way. >> People have a right to improve that road. I mean, including you, if you wanted to widen it to the full 25 ft, you could. Um I can't stop somebody who has a right in a private way from
improving the street they want. And if someone decides to make it the full 25 ft, you you're very close to the building. And I get nervous with big trucks that close to a, >> you know, for the road. That's awesome. >> You know, cuz they're coming off of North Main Street and you know, coming
in >> the whole turn, you know. >> Yeah. So do a lot of digging, >> right? Right. >> Cuz I don't know the width of a trash, but they're pretty wide. >> Yeah. They're they're 8 and 1/2 and 1/2 ft. >> Yeah. Plus your mirrors. Plus your mirrors,
>> but the roadway itself could accommodate large trucks. >> Oh, yeah. No, I think it can. I don't I just don't like the building that close. >> Yeah. >> If it ever got developed, then you got a building that's 6 ft away from the the road >> road. Makes sense. >> So, um, what I'll do then is we'll we
won't close the public hearing. We'll continue it. Um, what do you think in terms of time frame to >> We'll have to look at the deadlines. I' I'd like to be at the April meeting, but it may may go to the May meeting. >> Okay. >> So, right now the uh April meeting is
the 27th. The May meeting after that will be the 18th of May. >> So, what's the deadline for submitting for the April meeting? >> So, because you guys have an existing application with us, just the Thursday beforehand or actually, sorry, typically
for the zoning board, we want to see stuff a week before the meeting. So, the Monday beforehand. >> Okay. Okay, cuz the board likes to have the time to review during the week. >> 19. >> So, roughly the 20th of April. >> So, if it was the 18th of May, the 11th of May is when we expect plans. If it
was the 27th or 20th of April, so the week prior is >> I got Okay. Well, given that I think we can pick the >> Okay. So, what we'll do is we'll continue this hearing till April 27th at 6:30 >> by proclamation. So that there won't be
another publication or notice sent that if people are interested back here uh on April 27th uh they're going to be coming in with a revised plan moving that building westward whatever they tell us they feel is
appropriate. Um and we'll vote on maybe or maybe we won't and maybe we'll have five people. So they have a provision under the state law. We have five people that they can look at the tape and the the the testimony here and they can swear under oath that you know they've looked at all that material and they can
act. So if we have the fifth member that person who wasn't here tonight >> y >> could good could good could good could good could good could good could good could good could good could good could basically review the material. I had to do that for when the last one. So >> we need a motion to >> I got a motion to continue.
>> I move to continue the you Okay. We have to take a roll call vote. Jim, are you in favor? >> Yes, I am. >> Yes. >> Yes. In favor. Charles, you are. And I am in favor. So, the the this matter has been continued to April 27th at 6:30
p.m. right here. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Rob. I will not do that. I I will miss the May meeting. >> The May. >> Yeah. >> Well, we may not even have May. >> Okay. >> Okay. Now, we got to address the other
issue. Just the other the minutes. Um >> folks in the back, we asked everybody to keep it down a little bit because we still have the meeting going on. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Have a good night, guys. Thanks. We need to just read that one >> so we can >> Okay. So,
>> with regard to the matter uh case ZV 2025-05, we have a letter dated February 17th, 2026 on behalf of the applicant. I'll read it to to the board. um is addressed to me
the chairman um to continue the public hearing at zero prospects street east law meadow for assessor's parcel 45-1-0 u rla lec project file 2550221 dear chairman Beglin and board members
on behalf of the applicant property owner Mr. Jeffrey R. Mitchell. We respectfully request that a public hearing scheduled for February 23rd be continued to the regular schedule meeting on April 27th, 2026. On September 22nd, the applicant submitted
a permitted use application with Eversource to obtain authorization for proposed single family home within the easement area. To date, Eversource's review and sign off on this item is still pending. We believe it most productive to return to the board once that process is complete. Thank you for
your consideration. Let us know if you require any or different different information in support of this request. Yeah. And it's uh Nina Fazio uh permitting coordinator. Um
so um and I will continue that that that to the 27th. Uh we'll take a motion on that. I second. Jim, you in favor? >> Yes. Grant Y to Mark. Yes. And Charles, yes.
So, it's unanimous to continue it to the 27th. And we do have a written uh already from them indicating that we got the waiver on the 100 days to make our decision. >> That was what that letter was. And also, could you just state one more time for the record who made the motion? Who?
>> I made the motion. France. >> Okay. Thank you. Just so the may take you with me later after this meeting. Um, >> and then the last thing is just to approve the minutes for the last because we have with the four of us here, we have enough to approve our minutes. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> two sets. >> Yeah.
>> So, >> I move to approve both sets of minutes as previously. >> I second favor. Jim, are you in favor? >> Yes. >> Yes. So, it's unanimous the the motion once again Charles and seconded by Fran
and approved by all four. The minutes have been approved for September 15th and December 8th. >> And then you have to uh close. >> And now we need to clo have a motion to close the meeting. I move to close. >> Charles seconded. >> Second. >> Fran second. Uh we'll do a roll call. Jim.
>> Yes. >> Charles. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Fran. Yes. Mark. Yes. >> But we'll see you all hopefully on the 27th, God willing.