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Okay, I will call to order the Wednesday, July 8th, 2026 Conservation Commission meeting at 6 o'clock. In attendance, Anthony Zampuchini, Elizabeth Stoton, Jason Gumper, and Megan Logan. First order of business is the approval of minutes. Uh the first is

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the open session minutes from 513 2026. >> We need Tom to be here to approve those. >> Okay, so >> the continue >> to uh hold on. the uh 22nd >> motion to continue the approval of the

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May 13th, 2026 meeting minutes to July 20 26th. >> 22nd >> second. >> All those in favor? >> I Okay, motion passes. Um approval of minutes for the 610 2026

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meeting. do those, right? >> Yep. >> Anyone have any questions or get a chance to read them? >> Any changes to them? >> I'll make a motion to approve the

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June 10th, 2026 meeting minutes of conservation commission. Second. >> All in favor? I >> next is an RDA request for determination applicability RDA 2026-05 request for determination applicability

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at 39 road assessor's parcel ID7-49-1 for the area and activities are subject to the wetlands protection act or local bylaw chapter 424 wetlands protection applicant is Rachel Gibson 389 Porter Road east mass 01028 Didn't we look at this one though

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before? >> That's the one where um there was a pool there and uh in 2025 when the previous owners sold the house, they took down a pool and now they the new owners want to put a pool in the same exact foot, >> same exact location. Right.

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>> Right. and the >> and he's on the Zoom if you have any questions for him. Um, I'd want to know, not it isn't a direct question, but I'd want to just know if there's, you know, what the work requires, any

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machinery that's required, um, as a starting point. And if there's nothing there, >> you might want to ask ask him about what materials I don't know how they're constructing it. >> Yeah. >> I just don't think there'll be any grading involved. Now it's it's a flat spot where the previous pool was.

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>> Is that the same place where the idiot lived? >> Can we just ask Can we ask them to just confirm? >> Yep. >> He's on the Zoom. >> Can you hear me? Hello. >> Can you hear me? >> I think he's there.

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>> Is Mike there? >> He's working on it. Zoom is so >> you asked to start video complicated sometimes. >> It's very finicky. >> There you go. >> Oh, there he is. >> Can you hear me?

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>> Oh, we still can't hear him. >> You think after all these years the room would have figured something out? >> Yeah, >> I think he's just muted. I don't know if you can hear us, Mike. I have to unmute. Let me >> looks like you're muted. >> No, you're not muted. Hello. >> That's something on our end. >> No, I think it's our side. Yeah, there's

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something funky with the >> the volume. >> Can you hear us? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yeah, he nodded. Yeah. See, we just can't hear him. It'll figure it out. >> That happened with me when I >> Yeah, >> that happened with you when you did it. Yep. Exactly.

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>> Can you hear me? Anybody know sign? >> I mean it was if it was via a computer you could do in the chat but he's on a cell phone so it's kind of hard to do chat on the cell phone. >> Hello. This is very finicky.

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>> Can you hear me? >> Is it audio bottom left? That hears me. It's >> going somewhere. >> Trying to talk, but it says unmuted.

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>> Let me see. >> Says you're unmuted. >> Yeah. Could it be the volume on the speakers? He's calling Jamie. >> She's He's calling Jamie, the lady who runs Latute >> the guy on Zoom. >> How do you on Zoom?

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>> Oh, it says your microphone's muted. >> Yeah. >> Right in the chat. It says my microphone. >> See, but it shows that he's talking, but we can't hear him. >> Shows him. That's the problem. >> He's not muted.

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Um, >> that's what you >> Oh, is there volume on the TV? >> That's a good question. That might have been what happened last time. >> I don't remember. >> Oh, TV speakers at 100. >> That giggle that

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>> 100. >> It looks normal. Check the audio on the Zoom though and see if the audio is coming through the >> Okay. >> laptop or >> Yeah, the TV. Sure. >> The TV. That's the other thing to check. audio. Is that

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>> it? Oh, got it. >> I think we got it now. >> Are you now? >> You got it. >> There we go. >> Perfect. >> Uh, yes. No, it's fine. Uh, yeah. So, there's no machinery needed for

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anything. There is already a flat spot. Um, everything will be dumped on the driveway. And then as far as like the sand and everything. And then from there, we'll just use a wheelbarrow to fill in any spots that need to be filled

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in where the pool is going to be based. But there's going to be no machinery or excavating or anything done. >> Got it. Sweet. All right. >> I don't have any other questions. >> Okay. So, oh, do we have to um close the public

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hearing first? >> Yeah, unless you have anything you wanted to condition into the project. That's first then. Yeah, you just close the public hearing in motion. >> I think it's pretty straightforward. >> Yeah. >> So, we need a motion to close public hearing. Uh >> I'll make a motion to close public

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hearing. Second. >> All those in favor? All right. All right. >> Then we need a motion for >> to approve the RDA fees. >> You for you have to list the determinations.

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>> All right. Um I'd make a motion to approve or no not approve to approve to approve RDA to approve RDA-2026-05 with a positive one3 and -6 determination.

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Second. >> All those in favor? >> I I >> Is he still there? Oh, he's gone. Okay. >> Oh, there's two attendees now. >> Okay. >> Um >> I'll just email him tomorrow. I was just going to tell them how what when to expect the permit. >> I think they're still on. You might be

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able to >> raises. Yeah. >> I think you get to say allow to talk. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> S. >> All right. I'm back.

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>> Okay. Yeah. We just wanted to let you know. So, you'll have uh your permit within a few days. >> Okay. Awesome. >> So, it's all set and approved. >> All right. Perfect. Thank you very much. >> Thank you.

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>> Okay. Next is >> let's uh sign first. Okay, got it. >> And when we're not dealing with consultants, it's like how are they supposed to know what a positive one3 negative6 even means? Like >> Oh, well, it'll be written on there, right? >> Yeah, I know. But I just don't want to leave him like hanging.

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Gotcha. No, that makes sense. >> Is it just one sheet or two sheets out? >> Two sheets. >> Two sheets. Some of these things are just like updates or finds or something like that. So we don't there's not like >> Got it. >> copies of >> Oh, the next one we're just we just have

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to continue. We don't we didn't get anything from them. Such neat. I know. My god, that was fast. >> Scratching out. >> No, it's my signature. No one can uh replicate it, that's for sure.

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>> I guess you are. Mhm. Next is not 710 Ny 2026 test 01 not 710 at 0 Nelson Street assessor's parcel ID 2C45299 the construction of a single family home subject to the wetland Protection Act 310 CMR10 and local wetland bylaws

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chapter 424 protection applicant Ted Bicowski 1307 Tinkham Road Wilham Mass 010 95 sorry continue from 513 2026 no submission no updates >> nothing >> um continue to the I think it was the 22nd 22nd

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>> motion to continue NOI-226-01 one to the July 22nd, 2026 conservation commission meeting. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I monitoring EO 2025-06

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wetlands violation at 30 Vineland Avenue. >> She answered us. >> We sent $100 fine. Uh there is I've confirmed that she got it. >> Okay. But uh because we send everything certified mail in the office. But uh no

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no response, no phone call, no nothing. The day of July 3rd tired. Um >> what was that? A Friday. Last Friday. >> Yeah. >> Yep. Shall we send her another one

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>> on Friday? >> Friday. >> On Friday. >> Send another $100 one on Friday. >> Yeah. So, you want me to just >> Every Friday till she >> Okay. >> responds with something substantive. >> Are you going to be around on Friday? Do you want to just sign it now and then I'll mail it on Friday? How do you want to? >> I can do either.

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>> Okay. If as long as you're going be home because then we can do the usual where I just scan it to you and you sign it, scan it back. >> I'll be here. Yep. Absolutely. >> So, uh, let me just note that. Yep. Next is the EO 2025-01 stream alteration at 633 759 Summers Road. This is the

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sheep farmer. Yes. >> Okay. So, I got some more information today um that may change how we want to handle this. So when they applied for subdivision

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back, I don't know, five years ago, six years ago, whatever it was, they were told at that time that they would have to build a permanent crossing there and they would need to permit it and everything else. It would be required as part of the division subdivision. They couldn't just, you know, do it. When the

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subdivision was denied, um, obviously they knew full well they couldn't just build something there without permits because they already told they had to get permits. Um, so it's up to the board, but my thought is that now we do require the NOI because

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they knew they weren't supposed to build it and based on past um yeah, so that was in 2019. >> Is it 2019? >> 2019 is about right around there.

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>> Same owner. >> It was quite a while ago. And they came last year, so six years passed. And >> well, this was in 2025, the alteration. This is this >> enforcement order. >> So 5 years later, they they did what

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they already knew they weren't supposed to do. It's the same owner. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So the pro the approach here is we have the enforcement order >> and we were going to be lenient and say, "Okay, just submit an RDA because it was

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already done to save the money." But and D's rules are they should file an NOI whether it's been done or not. So I'm more inclined to make them do the whole thing now. >> So change the enforcement order first. Is that the first Would that be the

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first step in this? >> Because there's no We haven't sent anything. We haven't voted. >> We haven't sent anything. No. Um, so yeah, we can we can amend the enforcement order and give them um a

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date. I didn't uh draft them up in advance, so I don't have this typical step by step. >> You're good. Um, in the cover letter, it's up to you, but we can offer cuz like either to proceed with the notice of

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intent, right, to to move forward or a restoration plan to restore the area, like then they have those two options. >> Mhm. >> Um, is that kind of does that kind of sound right for a cover letter? >> Yeah, I think >> pathway forward, >> right? That makes sense.

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>> Okay. Wait, so remind me again what like what has changed from the last time we spoke with them? >> So we I we didn't know they they've they've basically feigned ignorance that they didn't know they couldn't do this and that they just did it to help.

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>> Oh, we didn't know that that had happened in 201. >> We didn't know that they knew they couldn't do it. >> Got it. >> Yeah. They were told they couldn't. It had to be permitted and everything else. Now they've we have that information that now they willfully did something they knew they

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shouldn't have done. >> It wasn't just an accident. >> Yeah. >> So >> was never an accident, but you know what I mean? Well, so do we want like considering you don't have something drafted, do we want

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the order to maybe just for now be you have until such and such date to uh have a consultant in writing confirm that they've been hired to either a file a notice of intent or b file a restoration plan. Does that sound like it like a

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>> is that is that would that be would DP would that would cover what they were also recommending or were they straight up saying noi >> well >> cuz I want to make sure that so now that we know this this was willful >> right >> I want to make sure that we're also

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maybe more so going with what DP suggested versus what we were trying to be lenient and nice and >> sure um I mean all day notice of intent to to keep the crossing. And in all honesty, because it's not a replacement

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crossing and it's a new crossing, >> it's permanent now, >> right? But it won't it probably doesn't meet stream crossing standards. >> Probably not. >> And because it's new and not an inind replacement, it doesn't really apply to any grandfathered, >> right? >> So, uh, yeah, notice of intent all day,

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one way or another there. But um I would think that you could that you could you know also give them the option to remove it and restore the area with a restoration plan that still requires delineations etc. The same nature of what you're asking for 30 vinyl. >> Yep.

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>> Um but at the same time now there is something to demolish. So >> yeah. So they'd have to be doing an NOI for that too, wouldn't they? >> For restoration. Do you want I can also talk to the state a little bit to see what their interpretation is before we

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make a decision and we can call it for the 22nd as well. Would that feel better? Is that a better path? >> Just because I want to make sure that it we're not giving them the option just to submit a restoration plan if that's not really the right way to go because of what they already did.

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>> I mean there is a concern there because it's a flowing channel and now they're they might have to they have to demolish. So >> that's that's more disturbance. I you know that argue yeah I think there's actually an argument for that. >> Are we gonna Is he gonna be willing to do that? >> Take it all.

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>> I mean he's got to do it. Is he gonna do it? >> I mean if you find it's either that or I mean they have to abide by the what the enforcement order says. There's not really an option there. >> I don't know why you didn't do it at the beginning. They knew that's that's the thing Tony is they knew they should have filed

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permits and got permission to do this because from the beginning when they file for subdivision for three now which I didn't know that before >> wasn't I think there was three houses they wanted to sort of something like that >> each one needed >> y >> so they know

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>> all right so okay I'll just I mean we can either just call the notice of intent both ways now or I can double check with the state and we can push it to the 22nd whatever you would prefer Okay. I >> mean, this has dragged on since February of last year, so >> I would do a notice of intent now. I mean,

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>> yeah. >> Okay. >> I'm okay with this. And we knew you were supposed to do this and so did you. So, >> okay. Um, so >> do we what are we thinking um for like a

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date for somebody to be like any timeline at all? Do like at least we need a date >> at least have it submitted. I would say we should start with a date that somebody in writing confirms that they're hired. >> Okay. >> And then, you know, if you want to add a submittal

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date in there, you know, make that one later. But that way we have answers, binding answers quickly. >> We just did the whole peer review thing. So, you know how busy they are right now. Do we give them a month to hire? >> I'd say that's >> I'd say that's extremely generous. Yeah.

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>> So, give them Okay. like because I I would say like >> two weeks to hire somebody. Um >> right. They don't doesn't mean that they're going to actually be able to do anything in two weeks, but just to hire someone within Right. >> Okay. >> I'd say give them but you could give

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them as long I mean if you want to give them a month that's fine so they can shop around, but I'll do the same thing as we do we did with any other enforcement order. I'll send them the list of everybody we've seen and if they want to go off that list that's fine, too. >> Um but I mean they can get an answer. >> Yeah, of course. relatively

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quick. It's >> It's after the holiday, so they can get an answer in two weeks. Hire someone. >> I'm I'm not opposed to two weeks or a month. I mean, >> they both seem fine. >> Okay. >> Um >> let's to go with two weeks and if there's an issue, they can let us know.

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>> Two weeks for hire in writing. >> Hire. >> And in the hiring, I want to know what date they're going to come out to look at their to do it. >> Sure. because then we can give them a submitt based on that. >> Um, okay. So, you don't want to add a

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like we need to have something submitted by X date. >> I would say I mean I want to give them like a no later than date but I want to so like if a consultant can't come out for another month. >> Sure. >> I don't want to give them a submitt date in a month if it's not going to work

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because the consultant can't come out for a month. That's the only thing I'm thinking. I don't know. What do you guys think? >> Yeah, I think I think one step at a time. Yeah, I was >> just because I don't know. I know they're busy right now and I don't want to >> Would it be wiser then to come up with like a just

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just to add like a overall completion date and push it to like have it done by some point in the fall. >> Yeah, we could do that. >> And because that's a lot of time. I mean that's a lot of time. >> So that everything must be submitted and all work completed by October 1st.

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>> That's that's an option. Yeah. Just that way. That way you have one order. We don't ending it every single >> for the first frost. And there's plenty of time from now till then, >> right? >> Oh, I see October 1st. >> Sounds good. >> Alex, do we also need to provide more

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color in what the NOI covers? >> No, they know what an NOI is. >> Well, the the the consultant will do that. So, it'll either be I mean, they have to >> This guy's experience. >> They've they've submitted several in the past. >> Yeah. M >> so it'll either be to permit a stream

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crossing and whether it the one that's there is in any way permittable or not is relevant now and >> right >> or remove it >> the consultant can decide that and we'll have a site visit and there'll be D comment you know the usual so like even

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if they file and it's with the existing crossing and it doesn't meet standards >> so later you know >> okay so we got a completion date of October 1 and two weeks from

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uh so we'll it'll be I think yeah the 20 the 22nd for we'll have uh we'll have somebody hopefully submit it in writing. Yep. >> So >> that's perfect. >> Um next. >> So will we have to a motion to amend and then I have to have you sign that because that's changing it.

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>> Got it. Uh, so we need a motion to amend EO- 2025-01 stream alteration at 633 to 759 Summers Road. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I I

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Was there supposed to be anything in here for Happy Acres or No. >> No. Um, explain. >> No, it's all good. I just want to make sure I wasn't missing something. move.

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It's the back. Next is the EO 2026-02 violation at Happy Acres Subdivision. So the the road is still fine. The silt sacks were doing their job yesterday during the rain. Um although like some

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of those driveways are still dirt. So, um I am going to go back soon to see how the silt sacks are doing now cuz there's a lot of runoff that goes in the road. Like the water was brown. Um but they are still doing fine and as they're supposed to be for now. What I reason why it's on the agenda is because now

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that um the subdivision owner who still owns the road has addressed that issue. Um, I was I wanted to add not change anything really uh with the order, but include the uh lots that are

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responsible for the silt fence line by the buffer zones to into the into the um enforcement order just so that way we can send it to them. And uh and then either a that'll get some of the lots that are very much completely done to submit their certificate of compliance and they don't have to put their silt

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fence back up and then the other lots we can put back into compliance because there's some a lot of those that are very much not anywhere close to complete yet. >> Oh, because they're already >> and then we can give them like >> 30 days or something to to uh put up a silt fence. >> I'm fine with that.

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>> 30 days from today. Okay. Um the lots you someone one of you needs to read them but I've highlighted which lots they are. You guys need to read them in um I can't highlight it. So you're making a motion to to amend the enforcement

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>> to amend the enforcement order >> to include those lots >> include the lots and with a 30-day deadline on the on the uh to to actually repair the fence. Yeah. picks up those cell phones. Yeah. Okay. >> So, I'll make a motion to uh amend

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enforcement enforcement order EO-2026-02 to include lots lot 18, lot 17, lot 16, lot 15, lot 14, lot 13, lot 12, and lot 11. Um

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to with with a month's deadline to >> Yeah. 30 days to to uh fix the to repair the silt fence. with 30 days to repair the selfs. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> Yes. Second.

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>> Okay. >> Do you have to sign that one too? Where is this on pizza? >> It's on the left side. Not not far off of Shaker. Like so you turn left on a piece.

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>> Okay. And then it's on the left side like maybe maybe eight houses down tops. >> Okay, got it. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Right. Next is PO 2026 just 01 tree clearing at

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371 Peas Road. >> So or Megan, you want to present it? Sure, I can give it a shot. Um, so we did a site visit at 371 Peas Road. We observed the area where the tree

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clearing took place. Um, we walked around the area to the extent that it was safe to do so. um given the down trees and just the um sort of difficult nature of the terrain uh we saw

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uh I would say evidence that there is you know water in the area uh and then we also saw that areas that had been cleared where they're getting direct sunshine now seem to be drying out um I don't think we counted the

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trees that have been cut down but it was pretty extensive it probably at least >> more than 20. >> I was going to say yeah doz more than a dozen >> and you know I think our feeling was this is probably

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some require some sort of delineation because it appears to be wetland. Um whether it's connected to anything or um whether it's sort of isolated um I think is up for debate. Um but that was sort of my

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my takeaway from it. Um, anything you would add, Megan? >> Um, yeah. I think the one of the things that stood out the most was how large the trees were and we don't know who cut them down.

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>> He uh the conversation I had on the phone with the guy is that it was him and a relative. >> Okay. >> But whether they actually hired somebody instead or not doesn't really matter. >> Yeah. They they weren't small trees, so it required some sort of >> Oh, yeah.

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or something. Um, >> and the volume >> and the volume of them, right? Um, >> yeah. So, noticed that. I would say at least 20, maybe more. Um, Jason and I

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took a look across the street um to see what was happening over there. There was some moisture. I didn't necessarily pick up on specifically what was growing over there. Um but yeah, there was a lot of water, especially in the the areas that

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were still shaded um on the side of the street that where this happened. >> Yeah. And I I would just I mean I would I would describe the the land as it's a depression. I mean it's it's a depression from the properties around it. I was my first look at it, I was

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surprised there's not a culvert running under the road there because there's depression on on both sides and certainly um standing water >> at different I'm sure at some times of the of the year anyway. >> I know the first time I noticed it when I stopped

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couple of months ago, there was a lot of skunk happen right up against right up against the street. >> Yeah, we saw that. >> I walked in then I noticed a depression. Um there was just a few trees and a lot of brush that they had been cutting. Nobody was there. So

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>> yeah. >> So apparently they've been going back and >> it seems like they did more even after the cease and assist was issued. >> That was my impression as well. But >> and I had stopped Well, I stopped there several times. The last time was maybe a

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month ago >> when there was there was a car and a truck there. So, I'd stopped and I didn't see anybody. I mean, I went up to the back and it either looked like they were moving in or whatnot, but I noticed more trees had been down. That's it

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looked like that to me. >> Part of another lot. >> It's a vacant lot that they own adjacent to there. So, it's adjacent to 371 or whatever. Yeah, 371. But it doesn't have an address because there's no house there. But it's the same. It >> I never knew who owned it. It was either the people on the left or the right

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until >> So the house in the lower right right hand corner is there. That's their So it's a property. Yeah, we got it. >> So has it started drying up a lot since the trees have been taken down? >> Yeah, there's like the skunk cabbage up by the road is gone. >> It's dried out.

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>> That was about that high. >> The mo the mo you can still see moisture in the ground where there's very heavy ground cover. >> But like the dark soil that that dark soil we saw in the back used to exist closer up to the front. >> Yeah. And that's why I think uh procedurally it doesn't really make sense to ask

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anything until there's been a delineation done and then kind of go from there. >> Yeah. >> Um >> makes sense. >> Especially because like at this point with the with the way that the that all the trees have been cut down and like

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everything's drying out. I I >> we need somebody out there that's going to come out there with an augur and and >> flag everything. It just before it doesn't matter what they want to do or what you want to do. I think we need to know that first. >> Yep. Yeah. >> It was also unclear where their property ended and sort of where the work ended.

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>> Yeah. I mean >> I mean just from standing there we a good idea, >> right? >> So maybe that would be part of I guess part of >> So like a survey. I mean it depends on who owns the land behind >> cuz it kind of looks like other stuff was done over here in this corner and it looks like it they don't belong. They

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did work behind their house, too. Behind their shed and stuff. >> Anything over there? >> Well, no. On the picture, though, doesn't it look like there's trees down over here, too? >> Behind their maintained lawn. There were >> We didn't look at We didn't look over there. And we didn't behind these people. So, I didn't see in the upper corner. >> Oh, I I didn't notice.

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>> We didn't look at that. >> There are some trees that appear to just have fallen like in that whole area. >> So, that could be what that is. >> That's true. But it seems like cuz we were looking back here in the woods and trying to decide like does somebody over there on that? Is it town property?

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>> Cuz it seemed to be like a clear relatively clear cut would you say? Like where they stopped cutting and then all of a sudden it's like deep dark forest. Um so I think we had an idea of what the property line was but not obviously an

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exact. Um, when was the cease and assist? >> We issued that. Uh, I have the file. >> January. >> I should have the file. >> This is a 2026-01. Should be January, right? >> It just be our first

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>> enforcement order of 2026. Should have it in here. >> I have so many files here. Sure. I think it might be lost in my stack at the moment, but we issued it a while ago. Um, quite a while ago. Um, but he had a deadline. What I do remember is he

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had a deadline of last meeting. So, the ETH to uh contact us >> and he hasn't. >> And he did. He did. He called he he showed up on the ETH. >> Okay. >> Um, and I had a conversation with him

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and uh and so that's kind of what brought us here to this point. We had the site visit today and um to me I I would say he needs to like the next step is delineations.

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>> Yep. >> So is that amended order to >> Yeah. We same kind of like the last one. And we'd have to come up with a deadline, at least a deadline to hire, but maybe a completion date too would be good. Just so we don't have to keep amending things like I don't know, two weeks to hire and

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45 days to delineate. >> Two weeks to hire. So 45 days to complete the delineations. >> Yes. >> Okay. We'll have the motion to amend that whenever done discussing it, >> I think. Yeah,

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>> we're good. >> Motion to amend EO-2026-01 with the changes as correct. So >> all in favor? >> Three. Uh last certainly not. Go. You want me to slide it? Sorry. You're right. Forgetting

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X EO 202635 Patterson Avenue. >> A really extremely minor thing. uh they're just there's a wetland at the back of their property and it's nothing large but they're they're bagging their grass clippings

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and then discarding of them back there. So, and it's also town property that they're that they're doing that on. So, I just propose that they clean it up and have a post cleanup site inspection conducted by August 7th. Just minor.

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>> I'm fine with that. That works. >> Yeah, I'm too. >> Um, so we'll need a If you don't want to change anything there. Um, I think I had a picture. Yeah, there >> it's like really minor. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> a motion to approve it. >> Yeah. >> Okay.

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>> Motion to approve EO-2026- approved as described. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I signatures tonight. while we sign. Alex, anything else you have?

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>> Um, hopefully we have something from Mike for Zero Nelson for next meeting. We have two other notices of intent on for that meeting. One is for

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um Peas Road, something going on on Peas Road. And then another is for Orange Street, which is the other side of Nelson. You could see it from the backyard. There's a house there. Proposed addition on that house >> that we did a cease and desist on. >> That one, right? >> Yep. Okay. >> Yeah. So, they're uh they have something

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filed with us. So, that's what's going on. Um, and then we have a notice of intent for happy acres that I because our agenda is now so packed for the end of the month will be on for our first in August. >> Okay. >> Um, so those are just all upcoming

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things. Other than that, >> sweet. Make a motion to adjourn at 6:43. >> Second. >> All in favor? I die.