I'll call to order the Wednesday, October 22nd, 2025 consensation commission meeting at six o'clock. Uh, in attendance, Anthony Zam, David Zerbert, Elizabeth Stoen, and Tom O'Brien. First order of business is to approve the minutes from the 108 2025 open
session. Did everybody have a chance? >> Yes. >> Any questions, changes? I'll make a motion to approve the meeting minutes from October Wednesday, October 8th. >> Second. >> All in favor?
>> I got this. >> Hold on. Uh Tom, since you weren't here, just >> Yeah, I can abstain. >> Okay. Just can you make the motion again? >> Oh, motion to >> No, no, it's fine. >> Red redo that motion. >> Yeah, just redo the motion and and >> I actually thought about abstaining. My
apologies. >> All right. Uh motion to approve the meeting minutes from Wednesday, October 8th, 2025. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Perfect. >> Request for termination applicability RDA 2025-04.
Request for determination of applicability at 31 favorite lane assessor's parcel ID 55-28-20 for whether the area and activities depicted are subject to jurisdiction of the wetlands protection act applicant AJ
Crane 821 East Main Street Chick Mass 0102 >> How you Anyone have questions? Have a chance to look at it. >> We have to do two determinations. >> Yeah. So they ask for the area which is
the whole property 31 favorite and then for the activities which is the construction of the house. There's jurisdictional area on the property but not within >> right. >> Yeah. So they checked off they checked
off area and they checked off activity. So you're saying the house is not subject. >> Yeah, the the proposed construction is not >> area is but the activities are not. >> Have we open the public hearing? >> It's auto.
>> Did you? >> Yeah. >> Did you have anything? Hey, you're here for that, right? >> That's fine. >> Did you have anything you wanted to add or just >> Okay, cool. >> Just wanted to double check.
>> If there were any questions, >> any questions? >> I don't have any questions. >> Do you want a motion? >> To close the public hearing. Yeah. First. >> All right. Um, I'll make a motion to close. >> All in favor? >> I.
>> So, um, I can make a motion also to issue a positive one and a negative for determination for RDA 20 RDA-2025-04. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. Okay. Motion passes.
>> Thank you so much. >> Good night. >> Yeah, we do. But he's all you. You will. So, >> thank you so much. >> Getting good, Jason. >> I know. He's next. He's next next in line. Are we doing a
>> Yeah, yeah, project monitoring. >> Oh, the project monitor E2025-01 stream alteration at 60 633 to 759 summer. I can't even talk to me. Do >> you have an update on >> Yeah, so today is the deadline. Uh
nothing was submitted, but um that Ryan individual that James is affiliated with, he called me on Friday. Um uh there's not a lot of communication between the two of them and he wasn't aware of this deadline uh because and so
um he was actually asking because he's got his DPW curb cut approval and was asking about do you have any questions before we start work like he was just going to pave over the stream crossing and I reexplain everything that we had gone over in the meeting and everything since and I and um so he did say that he
would look into wetland specialist Um, the deadline is the deadline. You have the right to issue a ticket if you'd like. If not, I would advise that we at least come up with a firm date. Again, >> just keep pushing this thing out. You're
supposed to come before us by X date >> by today. Yeah, we have pushed out a ways >> and they didn't communicate. So, >> do we need to send this sound weird, but do we need to come up with a new deadline, but then also send him a
notice as well as >> I don't know where he lives. This the Ryan individual. I don't know his address. Yeah, I don't >> I'm sure we can find it. >> I could we I could send it to local Ryan Preventure Local. >> I think he is. Yeah,
>> that is certainly an option. Um, this your discretion >> because I'm wondering does he communicate with you via email or >> he calls me? >> He calls you. >> So he's the designated spokesperson. >> Yeah, kind of. >> It's kind of a weird situation generally with like want to talk to the man or the
woman that >> Yeah, >> I agree. Um, >> what did we give him last time? We gave him a month or something. >> We gave him Yeah, a month. >> Okay. Um, so that was to come up with a restoration plan.
>> Oh, thanks. >> And he did receive it quite a while ago and and just didn't do anything with it. Um, so >> they can ignore us forever. >> I hate to find him, but is that >> I mean, is that what we need to do? I mean, I don't
>> It's your description. We can do that or we can like you said I can I can um send Tony I can you know well we can send like a letter with another date and and I can maybe find out from the clerk's what Ryan's address is if he lives in town >> and send it to both of them. I mean
>> depends on on how you feel. But I agree. I mean we can't >> at this point work's going to start in the spring. >> Okay. >> Already almost in November. So we don't want to push it off forever. But >> yeah, maybe a strongly worded letter that if you don't show up before us,
>> right, >> show up before us by this date, then fines are going to start >> like firm. Sure. >> To do that, but like some people just need like >> I mean, it's been a year. It's been a year now. So, >> so it really >> Yeah. >> You say they're going to start paving it. >> Oh my. >> They were Yeah, he was going to start
paving uh next week. They're not now because I've explained I've explained to Ryan the what the what the situation is, but yeah, that we're going to start next week. >> They gonna give it a street name. >> It's like a Yeah, it's like a really big driveway.
>> Yeah. >> So, he owns Proline Landscaping. >> Okay. Um, the address says that it's 554 Summers Road. >> Okay.
>> East Lmano, >> but Proline Landscaping is his company, so he's local. >> All right. >> What uh what do you think? >> What is our what is our meeting? >> We've got for meetings coming up. Uh
we've got the 12th and that's the only time we meet month because the 26th is >> holiday. Uh and then after that we're on to December 10th which is the only time we meet in December. Um >> you want to say the December 10th?
>> Yeah, that's what I was thinking. >> What are we asking for by then? Are we asking for a full plan or are we asking for um >> proof that they've hired a consultant? >> Okay. Proof that they've nom nominated. >> Yeah. I mean, if they have a plan, great. But I mean, I would just say
>> they need they need like engineered >> like I want proof that they've hired someone and they'll be working on it. Yeah. >> Okay. So, you want that for December 10th. November. Not November 12th. >> Yeah. December 10th. >> Okay. Sure. So, I'll write I'll put up
something together and then I'll email it to you. >> Okay. That's fine. Anything else >> for the enforcement order? That's it. Uh we have other business but >> planning community development the staff
report. >> Uh so there were a couple of things. Uh main one is 383 Porter Road. Uh there's an update that the sale's gone through now. So, we're good to go there. Um, and they hired a consultant who reached out to me and let me know that he's working
on it, so we should be seeing some. >> Nice. >> Yeah. >> Do we know who they hired or >> Yeah. Um, he works for Goddard, that Steve Rivery guy. He did the Allen Street notice of intent we had earlier this year. Uh, he has his own I seems like his own thing. Uh, so they hired him. So,
>> uh, heard from him last week. And then other than that, I know we wanted to talk about CPC. >> That's the only other thing I've got. Actually, I do have one other thing after that, but um I just remember >> to be on the CBC. >> I don't want to do it anymore. I need
someone else to do it. >> Can you tell us a little more about it? >> It's the community preservation committee. Um they have very large funds. They get applications twice a year from people in town or the you know the community or
the town >> and it's like requests for CPC funds to do projects. Sometimes it's recreation, sometimes it's historical. So a couple of projects we've approved in the past are um digitizing uh documents at town hall or preserving
and archiving land documents in town hall because they were all in this weird basement when they were going to be destroyed. Um, we did one for the wall ball over at the high school for the recck department. We did one for um,
>> swings at Maple Shade. Maybe >> might have been. That was a while ago. But yeah, like those are her park >> cemetery. >> Open the new windows for all of our um, >> the what is it called? The thing the
brownstone. >> No. Um >> um >> the elderly project, >> the elderly housing, new windows for all the >> brownstone. >> It's a nice way to spend some taxpayer funds for a good reason. >> Privately owned >> and it not to put any pressure on you,
but three of the board members got many years on that board. >> It's I mean it's a good committee. It's just I just I've been on it for many many years and I'm don't really do anymore. But >> we have to have a representative from >> right >> conservation.
>> We don't have it on the agenda for today because we just you wanted to discuss it. So we don't have the vote today. I can put it on for our next available. But uh we should probably Yeah. I mean >> Tony we can't pick Tony because Tony's already on it at large. He's a member at large. >> Tom has already served. I've served.
>> So it's kind of between you and me. >> Megan. We're saying we're all agreeing. Well, I got volunteered and told that I wasn't at the meeting and I got picked when I was >> chairman of that. >> Uh, >> uh, Bill Fana. >> Um, but yeah, I just and the I mean, I'm
the vice chair. They have to they have to elect a new vice chair, which I'm responsible for doing the reporting once a year, which literally takes 20 minutes when you have all the information into the state website. But um I mean it's cool stuff. They only meet three, four
times a year maybe. >> Twice. >> Twice for sure, but sometimes I think it's more, but it's only required to meet twice a year >> unless they have a lot of applications that have to come back and represent. And so
>> this when's the decision got to be made? When's the next meeting? >> March. No, no. We'll have a meeting sometime in uh when's when's the uh um the deadline? >> Thought it was
>> November 1st or 15th. >> Uh might be the 15th. >> Okay. So 15th will probably meet a week after that >> or go over the applications. I have no idea how many applications we're >> We don't get that many. >> Maybe two to three.
>> Yeah. Each. >> Yeah. Keep me posted on that deadline because Uh our next meeting is on the 12th and then again we don't meet for the rest of November >> to vote on the 12th. >> Yeah. >> Have to vote on the 12th because Okay. >> their CC meeting would probably take place either
>> the following week or the some one of the first two weeks in December. >> Okay. >> I would assume. >> So I'll note that >> maybe Megan's interested. >> Yeah. I can reach out to her on the email and see >> just I mean it's it's nothing crazy but
we have to have a rep from contact. So >> okay. Um the only other thing that I wanted to uh keep you updated on is uh as things have slightly slowed down uh I've been working spreading most of my time now uh I want to go after a trails grant to
develop some trails in town for starting the spring. Uh, so I've been looking on GIS and reviewing like our conservation areas to see like what ones like have the easiest access where we don't need an easement or anything like that because a lot of them are locked like parcel locked with other like houses around it uh and stuff like that. I have
a few um in in mind that seem to at least have side of road access for now. Um >> brown property for one >> the brown property. Yeah, like the brownstone gardens by like where the the pond is. >> Oh, that's a nice little spot there. I haven't looked at that one yet. I've
been avoiding private. I've looked at a lot of municipal for now. I think that's the easiest place to start. But yeah, anything you have in mind, please email me. >> Okay. >> Uh so I can because I'm literally going to be going out and looking at all these properties over the next couple of weeks. I want to put a good plan together and then look at grants and and
you all will be very involved and um so that's something to look forward to as we get into like December. And I just like tonight, >> not the rail trail, but the part of the rail trail that's not developed. >> Yeah.
>> So from uh the center all the way to buying stop and shop. >> Yep. >> And while they cleaned it up, there's still a lot of trash on that hill. >> There is. >> Oh, >> yeah. And >> we looked at it. It was >> I sent you some pictures behind the building. Get get me. I'm I'm coming
from down the rail trail, so I have a perspective looking at it from a different angle, not down the hill. >> See it from >> You can't see it from down the hill. >> And so this is the other thing I saw. >> So the Posic Book flows underneath there. Right behind there.
>> There's 15 shopping carts. >> Oh yeah. >> And a And a scooter. >> Yep. >> Right in the >> scooter. >> And a scooter. >> And that's stop and shop. Not behind. >> What you got to do is just walk down the rail trail. Westwood. >> Yeah. Westwood Rail Trail. >> Yeah, >> you come into it. I don't know if you
can get to it behind stop and shop. >> Yeah, you should be able to get to it from Stop and Shop because Pakosa cuts underneath there. >> So, it should be high and dry. You park in Paneras. >> Should be able to get on it there >> and walk back. >> Just walk back maybe 100 yards. See where the Picosa goes underneath it.
>> May that's something to discuss at our next meeting. I can go back there, take some pictures. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, we know at least >> I think it's town own property >> of the property. I think it's T. >> Well, because the rail trail is is town owned, >> right? But if they're shopping carts, >> they're on the west side
>> to remove them. >> Tom, doesn't the sewer line go right on the side of it? >> Easement. It's an easement all the way down. >> There's a few easements in there. >> Yeah. >> Um >> cuz you come right in the back here and there's a where the sewer line goes. You
see the >> Oh, right. Yeah. at the end of Pur Street and that goes right down to behind Stop and Shop. >> Yeah. So, it'll be right back there. You walk that way. >> Yeah. >> Because it cuts underneath right behind Stop and Shop. >> Yeah. >> And on the the side away from Stop and
Shop, there's like 15 13 carriages down there. Scooter >> in the brook, >> right? >> Which sucks. And um >> but I was thinking I'm like, who owns that? Because the the wastewater treatment plants back there, right? Yeah. >> So that might be town owned. >> Yeah.
>> But I don't know. Maybe we get like a volunteer day. >> Have to take a look at what it looks like down there. If it's anything like the like what we had dealt with the last time. We don't want volunteers going down there. But >> good point. >> Yeah. Too dangerous. >> Somebody were hurt. >> Yeah. I'll go I'll go investigate that
and then be something else to put on our next agenda. >> It's a nice little walk back there. Yeah, I use it. I'll >> take a look. I've never walked the rail trail ever. great colors in the in the fall >> from that perspective. Yeah. >> All right. Yeah, I'll take a look.
>> Sweet. >> What is it? >> I will make a motion to close the meeting. >> I'll make a motion to adjourn the meeting. I'll second it. >> All those in favor? Hi. Hi.