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2025 comes to order at 6:03 p.m. and could you please join me for the Pledge of Allegiance thank you aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation God
indivisible with liberty and justice for all all right Madame clerk could you uh do the roll call please council member brusher here council member Co here council member Harris here council member Patel
council member ptil here council member pointer pres council member schmell here okay Madam clerk adequate notice adequate notice of this meeting is required by the open public meeting Act of 1975 as been provided by the annual notice sent to the home News Tribune Star Ledger Desi talk and news India
times on November 18th 2024 and pce and posted Municipal complex on that same date thank you very much uh we go to Number Four review of the minutes any comments on the minutes of the work session of February 24th and the regular meeting of February
26th okay seeing none let's go to the um number five onfinish business ordinances for further consideration public hearing and final adoption um any Council comments on either 02 uh 2245 or
2246 Council yes um again thank you Council vice president for coming up with this ordinance it's a really great ordinance only I have a few questions on that in terms of the liability say if an individual or a company comes forward
who would like to adopt a specific area to maintain how we are going to comply or check that they are following or they are carrying the the liability insurance and there is no harm to the township yes Council councilman po uh
thank you so how the ordinance is written is that under insurance it's technically under the guidance of the township as to whether insurance is required or not now that's starting to depend on um risk factor in terms of
as an example uh adopting out cestal park by my house would be less risky than saying adopting Amboy Avenue just based on traffic flow um in terms of the if the administration determines that
insurance is required I would imagine that they would have to have a copy of that liability insurance and then um whomever is following up but I could defer to Sonia to maybe a little bit more on that um actually councilman I
would defer to our our counselor about any liability insurance it may not be required other than perhaps a hold harmless but I'll defer to council thank you so generally it would not require a copy of the entire policy it would require a copy of the Declaration
sheet um to make sure that insurance coverance was in place and the hold harmless and indem indemnification Clause would protect the Township from any liability for
negligence by The Entity that uh entered into the adop an area program no it's easier it's very easy to say that you know we would need a deck page we call it an insurance term deck page which is a declaration page which will list out
what's the liability courage is but how the township will enforce because I can call insurance company get the court underwrite the policy pay the premium in week I will cancel it Township will never know
whether I cancel that policy that's what my point is and how do we enforce the township will not be held accountable or so so your statement is not necessarily correct every insurance policy that names a municipal entity as an
additional insured has a provision that the township will get notice within 30 days before the policy is terminated for any reason can you double confirm that because I work in insurance industry and I can tell you that not necessary every
insurance company will send the cancellation policy to the uh what we call as an additional endorsement The Entity like the township I don't think Town Township can ask for the certification of the endorsement but Township not necessarily will get the
copies renewed or cancelled or what happened that stays with the owner of the policy and I'm sorry sir there is also possibility that you know the it's likely that insurance can get transferred the carrier can get transferred and you'll have no way to
know any loss runs or anything that is associated with that property again I'm trying to protect the township as I said like it's easier said than done as long as we have some provision in the ordinance somewhere that if the entity that
whether it's an individual or company fails to comply with the insurance policy or they do not carry where that law goes again is that goes on the individual as a personal guarantee or where it goes if they don't have the
insurance I'm sorry can I answer now sure thank you I'm sorry I interrupted you earlier every time the township is an additional insured or is is named as an owner on a performance guarantee or any
other kind of shity the provisions of the requirements prior to them getting uh the approval to move forward requires that the insurance company agree that the township will receive notice 30 days
prior to a cancellation of any policy that's just the way it is I appreciate your concern and and it's valid but it's been addressed and the municipality won't have any issues with it can you give me the writing that if the
insurance company will notify the township if the insurance is cancelled I don't think it's an additional insured it's up to the policy owner to notify the township or the additional insured that the there is a change in the policy there could be change in the coverage
there could be lot many things can happen just to give an example if I as a resident is adopting an area which is high risk Township might need a $10 million or maybe I don't know $50 million as the liability insurance I might get the policy and then I go and
change to cut my cost down to say million dollar Township will still be an additional insured on the policy counc will have no way to know how the policies impacted or how the policy change and that's my question there as long as it is covered again I'm trying
to protect the township the intent is to protect the township because attorneys comes and goes the council will come and go but in future if any incident happen there has to be placeholder to secure that you know our liability part council president yes Council MCO I I I
understand part of we're talking about the adopt the spot program right I mean I think it's fair if there's an application that we provide that they give notice to the town if they're insured we on there as notified when they cancel uh also in addition from what I understand it with when we had
Jay Elliott as director clean communities picks up insurance for anybody who Volunteers in a program as long as they notify that we're cleaning that day we do cleanups on everyway Avenue we notify Jay that we're cleaning our teams notify Jay so they're fully insured that day by
Clean communities act but I do understand your point you rais a good question that part of the application part of the agreement that each year you provide your insurance also were additionally notified in case of cancellation corre and cman you know thank you for adding that additional information we call those as an event
Insurance event Insurance yes you know that Community program will give if there is a cleanup program on XYZ date yes for that day it will cover including all the volunteers here we are talking about adopting a location this is a long term and that's where I'm saying you
know as long as it's covered and I will appreciate if attorney can send me a written understanding and confirming so it it stays on a record that what attorney is saying is the truth thank you council president council president if I may interject yes so regardless
whether of the so the work is covered and that's really what the insurance from their perspective holds however our insurance covers the spot regardless of what happened somebody crashes into the place um you know any sort of liability if God forbid somebody gets injured so
it's covered if your concern is regarding about the general coverage of the area the township has insurance for that first and foremost for any occurrence so so uh the liability ultimately is within the township certainly the work itself is on the uh
entity that's doing the adopt a spot but there's coverage there so there shouldn't be no concern in terms of in the event something were to happen you know again thank you that will be your master policy that will cover the properties owned by the township I get that yeah it's not my policy it is the
general policy of our coverage that's what I call as a master policy it's a blanket for any property that is owned by the township however I don't know we have the work Comm under that because this is the area now is adopted by an entity God forbid anything happens to
those individuals they might have the general liability coverage but if you're not checking their work comp insurance then that becomes an hdle we don't know who is going to work there or who they are going to employ so councilman coil's analysis in terms of the volunteer is is just spot on in terms of how that would
cover um and I can certainly reference any insurance uh documents for you that covers the township and any individual that is within the Township's limits especially performing work whether it's on a volunteer basis or they get paid understood and I'll be that I can
provide to you I'll look I will need that of the policy because again two types of general liability as well as the work comp policy will be important for this so councilman P what you need from counselor here is what first thing is I need the the
affirmation on the statement he gave that it's a covered and the township will get the copy of anything that happens to that policy changes to the policy that I need the confirmation from attorney the second one is you know Sonia said you know she will give the copy of the township Insurance hopefully
that cover the general liability as well as the workc anything happens because we will not have any control who that entity is going to employ to do the work there it could be third party again the third party supposed to have the insurance and the additional insur will
be the entity who is hiring as at the same time the township will also be on their policy but again it's a chain of the policies and there's an easy way to get lost and then it's a finger pointing who's going to cover the losses there okay all right so councelor
are you able to get what he needs I'll be happy to provide you with the entire council with an email that says what I just said because it's factual um yeah that's that's what he's asking for that's what I'm asking yeah
that's what he's asking for okay any other questions about 2245 or comments okay 2246 which has been amended um do everyone should have a copy in front of them Amendment yeah but we need a motion right
so can we get that motion to amend the changes that have been made to 2246 okay the question is how substantial the changes are I highlight yeah they're they're pretty they're pretty simple the changes really it goes It goes the health department is
now added into Township Personnel um and that are involved in this and the provisions of the article should be overseen and enforced by both health department and the zoning officer or their designes is there any reason we are not seeing and for 20 25 17.5 in
violation the health department or zoning officer but for the enforcement we are seeing and health department and Zoning officer again I'm trying to ask the question from who owns the responsibility of enforcement as well as issuing the violations okay all right
Sonia so the reason the for the amendment was that the health department already enforces the grass and growth so that's why they're in there and it would be their responsibility is there a way to make it end then of our if it's the will of the council it shouldn't be an issue as far
as enforcement it would be the health department either we can change either place or or and councilman so the answer to your question is you the proposed changes expand the enforcement authority to
either or of the health department Zing or the zoning off officer it gives you more leeway and more manpower to enforce the different parts of the
ordinance no that's and it's not a substantive change it just it reflects the reality of the way that the township enforces these types of issues no it's understood the question is can we be consistent in both
the places either say or or this on D it does say the provisions of this article shall be overseen and enforced by both the health department and Zoning officer or their designes that's fine that means either or okay both means either or
M I don't know they don't have both have to issue the same violation that um would be unweld in the real world so when you have multiple entities uh handling
enforcement you give both the power but you don't require that they both have to act in concert councilman ptio would you be more comfortable if it instead it's of saying both it would be either or yes
okay um and the reason I'll will tell you that you know again I I had questions on that you know why certain series of event happened before the ordinance was right ordinance is adopted and that's where the question comes in yeah yes yeah and there isn't you're
right councilman Pano there is an inconsistency between what it says in uh under ba a where it says Township Personnel authorized by the health health department or zoning officer whereas it says both in there so I think we need to make the language
consistent um council president if uh councilman ptil was alluding to an enforcement that may have happened or an issue that may have happened prior to this the reason you have the bamboo here is because our ordinance current ordinance addresses invasive species so
uh this further clarifies that and a warning was issued with regard to invasive species so I just want to point of clarification that this is the reason why the bamboo however um our staff did what they were supposed to do in terms of uh issuing a warning not a violation
necessarily no I understand and I will have more questions on that but let's get this consistent and then I will have the questions on thatc President yes I'm okay with the wording because it it says that Township Personnel can be sent by Health Department or zoning officer and it will
be you know overseen by both health department and Zoning it makes sense to me so I'm not sure what the change is intended to do see the two things one what I'm saying is either make it or and an or M or make it or both the places or make it and both the places the reason
I'm saying is if Health Department gives the violation and your zoning officer is trying to enforce it no but what in the event of a violation Health Department or a zoning officer can go but the person in charge of it is both health department and Zoning officer so
it's it's alluding to two different things so it makes sense in the way it's worded at least to me uh councelor councelor your opinion yeah yeah so I'm sorry go ahead counselor I'm sorry I I'm okay with the changing it to
either or or and slash or you get to the same place it just makes it clear if you would prefer and or that's fine d section corre right yes on the dsection so councilman ptil would you prefer either or or and or doesn't matter as
long as it's consistent I'm fine okay all right so um can we do that that here and now yes okay all right council president so yes councilman coil I just want to comment and again I will be supporting uh the ordinance but I just
want to waiver the understanding that this is a property line issue it's a civil matter and it's challenging that we get into the backyards of others and distinguish what they do and not do in their backyard today if I grow a tree too large my neighbor and I choose not
to cut it my neighbor can just cut it or they could you know civil have a civil suit to make me do something so I'm just challenged with how this will go for the amount of people we have that are growing bamboo across the town I'm sure more people are growing marijuana in
this town than than bamboo but um it's uh I just want to cover that civil part of it that you know it's just challenging we're going at the backyards of people's homes to say you can't do this and if you do this it spreads we're going to we're going to take taxpayer money to enforce and is that is a
neighbor side issue that'll eventually go to civil court anyway um because it's pretty serious when they dig this out and they do the work and we have the supervisor to come back but again I get it I'm just sharing uh it's always been a civil matter it should continue to be a civil matter and we should just you
know not allow it and put it in part with the other plants that we decide not to have in Edison but I will be supporting it thank you yeah I don't know that we're looking to have people dig it out I I know that's extremely labor intensive I think it's about
controlling it and cutting back where necessary um is that correct if it gets if if it if it gets out of control if it's going past a property line we're looking to cut back not to to take it out by the roots is that correct uh well the issue is the
roots because it is yes absolutely so it is uh it it spreads uh and the roots are very long and that that's why it's here uh it's considered an evasive species so um that's that's really the issue now um look I think at the end of the day this
goes to any sort of enforcement really you know and talking about to hit the point about it being a civil issue I mean that that can come with anything however from the Town Township standpoint if we get a phone call from any resident regarding an issue certainly we have to do our due
diligence and make and and go there and make that determination so um um that's the clear direction that I'd have to give to the staff so we just want to be clear uh okay all right any other comments before we get we we get a I have quite a few questions there I think
you know we did discuss about the grandfathering of the you know the situation and my Council colleague did touch on that the the question that I was bringing the yes in aanya you said the warning was given by the health department because
we have the ordinance but which is not clear it's still right but our zoning officer went and gave not zoning did can you please confirm I can back on I did I have if you ask Mr a come next
council meeting on Wednesday I'll will ask him he went with the violation he took it back that's not necessary but before Mr a went to go visit and he did anything there was already a violation issued by the health department I certainly don't want to uh you know back
and forth but that is exactly what happened so can you please bring Mr aart next council meeting because that's a fact I know because he's on a camera not necessary he's on a camera that he is issuing the violation which he took
back if that's the case certainly I can clarify that with him I don't want to have hear that's that's I will send the video again I'm I'm that's isue yeah I think that's neither here nor there but if you go ahead and let me know what you want to absolutely but what you are telling me is not a fact the health
department did go issue the warning which is okay but in that neighborhood there are lot of people who have the bamboos then the next week zoning officer goes and issues the violation when the owner said hey this bamboo ordinance is not yet adopted why you are
giving the violation he complained you know there are too many bambo around why you are singling me out that's the time he took it back he didn't give the violation but he had the violation written and he's on the camera so what you are saying me that the health department went yes the first time did
second time our zoning officer went there to give the violation so the question is before even the ordinance was adopted the health office the zoning officer is going and issuing the violation that's a bigger question but coming back to uh the bigger question here grandfathering we spoke about this
issue it's next to impossible to prove you know who planted the bamboo around the fence how we are going to enforce and if you go in the North End of the town because I know that area very well there are too many places and that is where I'm talking about the
enforcement enforcement cannot be singled out like give violation to one entity versus another entity it cannot happen and I can I will be happy to bring those evidences here on the council Das the way I I just gave it now it's very
unfair for somebody who is Grandfather so we need to put some sort of rules around around saying hey the grandfather bamboos are there and how do we mitigate is there a way that they can work with the neighbor to maintain those or clean those out so that you know it doesn't spread it's going to spread but if
you're asking the grandfather bamboo owners to dig and remove just remember these lots are huge Lots it's going to be next to they are going to spend Fortune to remove that and that's what I'm saying is there a way that you know we can probably come up with some sort
of a rules and regulations around how do we enforce this ordinance for the grandfather bambo that's my ask counselor do you can you respond to that
no you no you can't respond to it or no you I can respond to it the answer is no you can't okay it's either grandfathered or it's not grandfathered the the way that the enforcing agents deal with it we're always looking for compliance
we're never looking for someone to be violated or pay money unless they don't comply the way your ordinance is drafted and the way your prior invasive ordinance was drafted property owners
are responsible for issues that go beyond their property line it's just the way it is okay let I'm sorry if it costs money but if you're going to have an
ordinance that is meant to contain the species be it bamboo or any other invasive species to the property boundaries it has to be to the property boundaries if you're going to permit it
to be grandfathered then it's grandfathered you can't have it both ways that's a question there is that grandfather allowed you're not clarifying the question here the question is is this ordinance is written in a way that there is some way for the
grandfather properties to maintain yes as long as it stays within their property boundaries yes and that that was my question right as long as it is within their properties but even if it crosses somebody's properties and if they're willing to maintain or work with
the neighbor can they do that I'm I'm never going to tell you that that neighbors should not work with each other but you're asking whether or not the township could force neighbors to work with each other and the answer to that is no we have an ordinance the
ordinance grandfathers in Prior invasive species if it's contained on your own individual properties there are no issues and no ordinance violation so what I'm understanding is we already have the
ordinance which son you confirm and we failed to enforce that and that's why we are kind of clarifying that's what I'm getting into that I I have to uh correct you there uh there's no failure to enforce like any policy
brought to the council it's usually for clarification so I I know councilman brusher had brought this up the bamboo and there was some concerns I don't know if anyone else wants to add to that but um there's no failure rather there's clarification so that there is a clear
process of enforcement okay would you mind giving uh by next council meeting before I word how many summonses or the violations were issued for bamboos in last 3 years if the ordinance is really in force I would like to see the how many
violations were issued so the any violation would refer to invasive species so I I could try to gather that up for you it may take a little longer than two days okay then that's a bigger question here so we are saying
grandfather is not allowed so we are saying going to say that we are going to enforce this even for the grandfather properties which is way bigger issue than what we are contemplating here and that is what I asking if you already have an ordinance and if you're enforcing it I don't know why we really
need the clarification calling that this out saying hey you need to comply with this because this is resulting issuing the sumon sense and the the violations now that's that bothers me either we follow our standards and continue to enforce the ordinances that
we have currently and then look at the opportunities to streamline and then issue the violations we can't go both ways council president yes Council just uh make a motion to move forward we're 15 minutes on this topic I do appreciate everybody's words of the council but I
just think it may be beneficial to move forward on this thank you yeah I'm I'm not such a fan of necessarily saying that ex amount of minutes um per per council person right now 15 minutes over I I I don't 15
minutes opioids we don't give 15 minutes to I take that under Council thank you um councilman Paro anything else no again I'm disappointed you know this Council will be supporting something that we didn't enforce again I'm using the word carefully and then we need to
clarify and then we're going to punish somebody who is Grandfather again there are people who have the grandfather bamboo they will come this Wednesday this council meeting and maybe next council meeting to make the noise so let better to clarify rather than just push
it I know my Council colleague just want to go home quickly finish the meeting but that's not the intent of this work session it it should be fully discussed fully waed out everyone should understand what are the pros and cons and then vote with the good intent again I as I said that I fully support
controlling but we do have to factor the grandfather properties that's what I I was calling again they should maintain it I get that thank you thank you anyone else president as far as I understand it as long as they maintain it in their property there should not be any issues
so they should be grandfathered uhal uh I think that's what the counil counselor just to clarify as long as it's maintained within their properties and it doesn't go outside their properties it should not be an issue it's not a violation correct thank you okay all thank you so to we need a
motion to amend the changes including the wording on uh d uh need a motion to amend the changes motion to amend second second okay very good all right uh let's get a roll call council member brusher yes council member Cole yes council
member Patel yes council member ptil yes council member pointer yes council president Harris yes okay Madam clerk yes me oh you forgot sorry M well yes oh because I had you a second okay
all right um from the uh business administrator number six anything uh anything about uh A and B okay seeing none we go on to seven Department of Finance a through g c
president councilman Brasher yes um D um this this is given out to uh disabled veterans typically um and I've noticed this you know throughout my years on on Council
um this is something that that actually I'm I'm very happy that the Township's been doing um it's something I guess this but we can't take credit for it this has been done quite some time ago but looking after our veterans like this I think is a very very good thing so
happy to support anything with our veterans thank you thank you councilman brusher anyone else for 7 a through G council president yes councilman pointer uh in regards to item G um we have to do these annually because
it's done through resolution do I understand that correctly and is there any thought to increasing that minimum limit and I'm just thinking in in general just costs are going up anyway um I know this is something that councilman ptil has
brought up before you know whether that amount um you know depending on how much we actually have appealed to us whether that amount is uh should be risen or not we've had that discussion in the past uh
the tax assessor has requested it uh after review in discussion with the administration we felt the 10,000 was reasonable uh to give her that discretion because that covers most of the appeal activity at the county tax board and generally appeals above
$10,000 come from the tax Court those are generally major we'd like to have uh opportunity review those yeah I certainly wasn't trying to insinuate going lower I just wanted to make sure 10,000 was enough that it didn't have to
be 15,000 or 175 whatever that was thank you council president anyone else for 7 a through G okay moving on from the Department of Health number eight a through C questions comments council president yes councilman poter uh for items being c um
these numbers may not be available right now but if I just get um what matou and Highland Park's expenses have been over the past couple of years I'm presuming that analysis has already been done and this amount is enough to cover that I
just want to make sure it is and we'll provide that report to you uh by tomorrow thank you for to the entire Council great okay council president yes Council on the same note um if I can get the the formulas that you used um to generate that you know whether
whatever Matrix you use for if I can just get a copy of that we'll do that also thank you councilman PTO question on a so this will be added to the funding we got from those lwuit What's the total for that now for
the substance of use are you referring to the municipal Alliance I'm referring to a for the grant that was granted for substance use disorder uh I would assume it was be the same purpose to the opioid lawsuits and we got a couple of Millions for that are
you referring how much we have an opioid funding U I want to say in the near Millions for 13 million do we little off yeah do we have plans as to what are we going to do with it we we did we we had put out an RFP uh a while ago and we're
looking through all of the um submissions so that we could qualify for a couple things between senior services and then uh substance abuse programming that we could offer to Residents thank you okay anyone else a
through C all right moving on to nine Department of planning and Engineering A and B questions comments okay from the Department of Public Works a through d we good okay 11 Department of recreation
a through F okay uh 12 chief of police questions okay from the Township Clerk a through D all right we'll be we'll be adding one more
the resolution I'm sorry we'll be adding the V resolution right here the uh resolution for recognition for oh yes yes yes that will be added I guess that would be e is the line it's the liance club correct yes that will be on Wednesday's uh Wednesday's agenda thank
you councilman PTI um all right anything else for uh 13 a through D all right we move on to oral petitions and remarks all right Joyce [Music] speaking for the people um in my
Townhouse Association um ship Freeman Edison New Jersey thank you all right first we have a a murder on Clive Hills a place where we inspired to be when growing up as children in
Edison very very beautiful place then like a a couple of blocks from me there's this horrifying uh home invasion so where I live at is very close to these things that's happening so they're very very terrified and they don't like
the fact that people keep telling them that crime is going down they're like terrified they're like terrified at night one thing that good came out of it we have the bottom Town Delhi and they have like spotlights out all over the place but you know the crime is getting
closer and closer to our door at all so and also I wondered about our uh food desert because I'm looking around and mayor Mack is getting Trader Joe's at this
store that store he like you know long as you cross over the line to go to Woodbridge you have someplace to purchase some food another thing I'm interested in is the um is that I know before I'm not even
getting into that trip to Washington DC with the police officers and stuff but uh people would like to know if at all when they have the mayor's events in Washington DC do we send a security bunch of police down there with the mayor each time they go down to
Washington DC okay and I wanted to know like with the bambo stuff that he was alluded to that this questioning whether the person the zoning officer can give you a
fine one day and the next time the health person can come give you one so would you be getting two different ones from the two different departments this this Wonder for a a point of clarification and last
time when I asked about the inare debt from 2021 um believe me when I ask you a question and it's a financial question I I actually I I I got some
notes and stuff and I speak to people and they tell me what's really happening so I was told at that time and brushed off that it was online but at that particular time when I looked at it all the things I asked for were not online all right so I try to be nice cuz you
know if you say one little thing and people get offended with you and then they try to throw you out of a meeting just and you're asking this very very important business questions you would like to know those things so I just want to know that um I'm very very very more
than anything else I talked about I'm very very just nervous very nervous living in this town because you know senior citizen in my house and I have some other people that live like close to me that have children and stuff and then with a pregnant woman it's just
horrifying I'm just I'm I'm just I'm just really really nervous behind this you know and I'm wondering that if all our police are going other places with other people who who's out there guarding me thank you so Joyce real quickly before um your question about
debt was the debt occurrs from uh 2021 what was that debt Occurrence at that particular time and then we had another debt accumulated for 2024 right and somebody was asking me about it because I knew before
with Kender Roberts we had put all the stuff together before Tom uh before the mayor Tom Lany had left here so you know when they were telling me give I guess they didn't fig to fire system yet oh okay thanks Jo I heard
there was a problem thanks Jo okay let me go with uh with her questions um the first question is I think there was a question about does the mayor the events that the mayor has out of town um is security provided for him when he is out
of town uh council president uh as far as the and this has been answered before we there's no information with regard to any detail it's a security issue certainly refer to the attorney on this I don't know if the mayor has been
provided security or not but the the way that elected officials get protected uh um is a matter within the discretion of the public safety department and they know better than we do whether
it has happened or not I honestly can't answer but we do not want to disclose the particulars of the way that elected officials are protected because that would defeat the
purpose okay um next question was about bamboo violations and I think Joyce the the spirit of your question was is it possible there would be double dipping if you have health and Zoning is there possible that there would be double dipping that they would get the same person could get a violation from the
health department and from the zoning department theoretically possible highly unlikely um and even if that were to happen uh again we're not looking for violations we're looking for compliance
so if I was on the other side of that and I had two separate departments looking at me I would do my best to comply okay all right and then the question about the debt uh for ACR 2021 and 2024 I think Cheryl you mentioned to
me all the financial statements are on the website all the debt statements all the budgets It's all under Finance on the website okay all right financial documents all right thank you thank you all right Vinny all right how you doing um can we
get revision dates on these because I these seem to change every other meeting like a date and then revision date on on what meting on the uh the the rules of this meeting you mean the Corum rules yeah the welcome to the council CH Chambers
get a revision date because these seem to keep changing every like two weeks No it should be the same as it was when uh when they when I first had put them out there okay yeah it should be the same nothing there's nothing I've put down there to change okay so I'm here to I'll
talk about the rights that have been Stripped Away from Christo the so-called prop band that was never about order it was about silencing those who followed him this Council has gone to extreme lengths to shut down Christo you have limited public speaking time use
litigations like a Vasa to keep them out of meetings you blocked evidence sound clips and videos from being played during these very sessions you've thrown every road block in his way why because he asked hard questions because he speaks the
truth for years um for years certain individuals in power worked behind the scenes to go after one man attempting to frame him for an arson that never happened they even tried to connect him to the drons flying over New Jersey think about that and how absurd that
sounds a flag band became a tool not to serve the public but to destroy an an an individual's reputation and the attacks didn't stop there they target him again this time
uh um they target him again this time to be the first person forced to publicly uh question the rape allegations um this is an abuse of power let's talk about the prop brand a direct attack on Cristo's following it was never about maintaining order it was
about suppressing voices and the proof the moment the backlash hit you guys scrambled or covered it up and dropped everything that alone tells us where what this is really about um let's talk about what's happening in Edison this town is darker than ever uh because of the the corruption literally the council
the mayor the the Power Players they want to keep everything in the dark but the truth is coming out to light which brings me to the bigger question why is Mayor Sam josi so protected why was there never an attempt to process the rape charges why was the
mayor having meals with the head prosecutor of middle 6 county is that how it got swept under the rug why is Mayor Sam Joi so close to the governor of New Jersey what political favors are being traded in behind closed doors um what is the mayor's
salary what is Chief Brian Tom Bryan's salary the people of Edison deserve to know what the um what elected officials are being paid especially when so many refuse to do their jobs honestly there are so many issues of law enforcement in Edison they are being
used to intimidate or suppress certain individuals and the growing concerns about harassment and retaliation against residents who criticize the council is is something that needs to be addressed Public particip public participation should it be punished so I ask you
tonight will you answer these questions or will we continue to sit in silence um yeah that's all I got um Vinnie the uh the salaries um that's a matter of public
record that that that's there's no nothing hidden there there that that's a matter of public record also is the mayor um is the mayor um you know you guys saw the the mayor of Dalton right I think there's some relation to uh the
way the mayor has his goon squad and um his security detail and he uses the Town credit card we can't get invoices that he spent on his vacation why why can't we get that why can't we know all right can we do something about
that can we get a motion to do something about that alarm um okay all right um yes Anthony I'm sorry Anthony thank you uh Anthony Damron 25 Wy um as far as
uh the mayor's security detail um I Heard the the attorney bring up Public Safety um the only thing is the the mayor is the public safety director so I guess he is the the the the first the last and the only that gets to decide
this um again I I think he should step down as public safety director I think we've seen enough if this was the public sector I don't know how much more we have to see for at least for this part the public safety director to get somebody in here with experience law
enforcement background council president that could help deter this crime um it's you know I constantly think myself of ways you know that that we could work within what we have but um
you know one of the questions I had was you know things like the state police we have a state police here I mean if we if we're light on the road and there's an accident on one of the state roads what is that 27 or rout one Whatever whichever one it is why can't the state police help out and take those reports
and you know free up some of the patrol officers um especially at night um and and and and you know to to go on calls I I I don't I don't know why you know that's if it's a state road maybe the state police should assist in that um so
maybe we should Lobby for that in the future um the other thing is is there any plans to increase the police budget for for the upcoming year I was curious about that um and I was reading somewhere uh
you know they have in in in certain parts of I think it's in England I'm not I'm not sure where it is but they have these new technology now where they have the vehicles have face recognition uh inside the vehicles and the vehicle becomes the actual Command Center I'm sure it's expensive um but
you know maybe there's a uh uh you know basically if you drive past somebody and somebody's wanted it tells you right then and there and every patrol car on the street on the patrol will get an instant update of who that individual is and uh it's it's pretty it's pretty
pretty crazy technology so uh maybe something in the future without infringing on our rights but um something to think about uh also I was thinking about Herbert Hoover the traffic down Jackson Avenue and I was thinking about this the other day and maybe it's been brought up before but
have we ever thought about really not making a left or right onto Jackson Avenue that leads up to Hoover and just using and using coolage and going down coolage as a one way and all the traffic flowing down coolage turn into Hoover
and then everybody comes out of Jackson Avenue one way just one streamline of traffic instead of just expanding roads and going on to people's properties and which ain't going to really make an ounce of a difference but um so something to think about maybe is is you
go down maybe coolage have all the traffic down there just for 15 20 minutes out of the day out of the morning and maybe at night and uh and then just have everybody come back up Jackson Aven instead of you know in in One Direction so just a just a thought
um thank you council president okay all right um Captain rivel can I get uh you to help out with the question about the state police on state roads assisting Takes a Minute Anthony just to be uh completely I don't I'm not I'm not
sure the the constraints that are put on the state police budget or what they're doing I know they're going through a big hiring Blitz right now to try to get more Troopers um the same as we're trying to get more officers here and I think that across the state they're having similar issues with retaining
qualified uh officers to complete the task although in Edison we do have many roads that are patrolled by State Police um Route 27 and Route One are patrolled by them they're not the first in line to handle car accidents but they will um in
any situations of emergency um come into town and assist us okay and while I have you there Captain um and I I know this would be a traffic question for the traffic department but uh to Anthony's questions about uh the uh Jackson Avenue
around Herbert Hoover and diverting uh to to coolage um any thoughts about that so again that's a that's a great idea to take into consideration I think a traffic study would probably have to be done and they would have to look into uh if that's Avail something that would be
you know doable okay thank you Captain um and um in terms of his question about the plans for increasing the police budget anything to say about that it's under review right now okay
all right thank you all right thank you um Tom Thomas Ley Netherwood Circle uh back in January I was here talking asking about information who I could talk to about our cable company uh council
member Coy you were supposed to give me a name uh the next council meeting was postponed or cancelled due to lack of Quorum uh conflicts here and there it's it's still you know I took it into I
took the matters into my own hands uh after I got the original uh franchise fee added to my account and come January they added an they added other fee or they up their fees which was
uh the Flyers that they had sent around and put on people's stores and was posted around around the town where they were going to maintain quads for three three years yes they were but there was a there's a little like dot dot dot fees
can go up so I found an internet provider I'm going to some streaming I I'm I'm cutting the uh xinity cord so that's that's behind me I don't need that information right now Mr coil I
still got four more minutes excellent okay oh no okay one uh after the last uh I guess the last council meeting I saw in the newspaper an article about the I
want to call it the Edison Training Center over at the Jets facility that's being constructed as as you know as as we you know we're here the cost have more more than doubled from the original budget
now that to me is Criminal I I would really hope that after this is done qualified representatives of the engineering firm the con the con the construction
management firm as well as a contractors sit down and do a post post morem of Lessons Learned why it's gone why the cost more than doubled from the from the newspaper article it sounded like they did they had a the big change order was
due to utilities if the if the engineering company that originally set did the uh did the work did the engineering and design work could can't get the bar base utilities down they should be put on a probationary period
as as well as the contractor so I really think that there needs to be a postmortem done on this project because we can't Edison can't continue spending money the way it is we need to be responsible in where we spend the money
there's a lot of shakeups going on in Washington which is going to filter down to the state and eventually down to the township we need to be smart we can't go spending money like it's it's free and it's they can and people can do whatever
they want I I the budget's I guess being developed now or is in is going to be or in the process but I need I hope to God that the people that are putting the budget together put together a smart
budget which is because I believe that our taxes are going to go up as a result of that and lastly I want to talk about uh mini BV I don't know who you who you hired to paint the lines put the the logo in the in the center of the of
the gym floor but it's all peeling up it's just it's it's disgusting I think it needs I think you need we need to hold our contractors's feet to the fire if they do don't do a a competent job they need to go and they need to be held
to you know held to their their duties make sure that what they do is right and it l and it's done cheaply within Budget on time and on schedule thank you thanks Tom can we um look into what's going on at mini BV with
that thank you okay council president yes um you know just for anybody to know we have a um a cable committee I don't know if they have the uh contact um like for Comcast so so I spoke to like I
think it was the president of the Comcast you know to ask him how he got here in his journey um and and then what they told me was that once Verizon dropped out and they weren't committed and our contract opened up they uh they applied to the state for approval and and then they had to come
to the council to get them approved to come here um so he left me as contact number who if I could forward that to's ever looking into the the cable and then maybe they can get a liaison to uh Comcast also is that
who's on that committee who was who's on the cable committee I don't have that at hand um we someone's on that commit someone's on that committee I used to be I don't know right right I I don't I don't have the committee's handy do you uh do you
happen to have that council president if you can just get it to me and then I'll contact that council person I'll get that information over okay cuz right I just got the committee list um I'm actually not sure exactly what committee you'll put me on right
now okay yeah um all right okay thanks um yes Mikey how you doing good evening Council um uh I have no problem when uh you calling me up we all you know my name is Mikey not I haven't come to this meeting
yet and I haven't given my real name because I don't feel like the uh I don't feel like the council has put themselves into a position where I'm comfortable giving that courtesy I don't mind in the future that you call me up as Mikey we all know that's my name but for the record uh I'm not giving my
name and um just a couple of things uh I already spoke to councilman coil out in the hallway I told you last two times you interrupted me while I'm speaking he assured me he's never going to do it again so we have that under control uh also um when I'm speaking um if nobody I
don't want anyone speaking amongst each other uh just to show me that respect uh I sit here and I don't speak so I just want none of you to be speaking amongst each others while I'm speaking just show me that respect do whatever you want when the other speakers are speaking
that's up to them to call you out for it but I don't want you to at least speak when I'm speaking I just want your full divided detention and I appreciate that um spoke to the captain before the meeting very nice guy um told him about
Simmons versus United States constitutional supreme Supreme Court law that uh the ruling was it's intolerable to surrender one constitutional right to assert another one that's a Fourth Amendment violation I've brought this up at meeting after meeting last meeting I
was here Lieutenant Kenny um I spoke to him about it and he said oh yeah I know I know that that law which I don't see how he could because I just found out about it uh even lawyers you know they have to uh you know find case law that applies to whatever case pertaining to
you know but to acknowledge a constitutional a supreme court law and then just willfully just Overlook it is it's a little ridiculous um both times that councilman Coyle cut me off I was referring to the flag ban or the prop ban I referred to it as the flag ban it
was not a flag ban stop don't cut me off Council Co don't cut me off what I'm order Co you are out of order point of order Council you're out of out of stop the clock this is what I'm talking about
the third time this is Council Co I'm sorry councilman Co you're out of order have respect correct going to have to ask making false stat it was not it was not a B on the FL counc Co I'm going to have to ask do every time I have to ask
you to leave you can't ask me to leave I'm elected official councilman coy start his time again I'm sorry Mikey got two minutes on got this is this is what I'm talking about I would love to give you the courtesy and come here and tell you what
my name is but this Council doesn't deserve that courtesy you all as a governing body have to take the hit for the four people that voted for the flag B and you know what it was you were Banning the rights of kristo then you tried to ban his friends and then before
you knew it everyone in the nation realized you were Banning them you guys remember how this happened right everybody's rights were at risk because you banned one person banned his friends I came here in April for the
first time during the profanity ban I warned you guys I warned you guys about the road you'd be going down every single person did nothing when that man was removed when Joel was removed for waving the flag no one did a thing he
got Mike Burns all over national TV yelling with the cops ripping him out nobody did a damn thing because you banned the flag that's why nobody did anything you banned the flag am I going to be interrupted for the fourth time I mean
Jesus I want nothing more than to come here and tell you my name but you guys don't you guys don't even play by the rules you know it's very very disappointed he can't wait for your time to and and if we're going to do questions
at the end of my speak I'd like speech I'd like to know why councilman Coyle can't own the fact that a national mistake was made yes you guys will be remembered for the flag man and
especially the four that voted for it councilman coil included thank you all right anyone else counc pres pres councilman Brer yes um I'd like to get an update and and let me tell you where I'm going with this um we
didn't really have a problem here um before this Administration this law firm and this mayor okay this is this is new um that's just happened over the last 3 years a few meetings ago I I put
a request in and I'll tell you where I go with it I've Done Construction for 30s something years um a lot of ADA Banks hospitals um few residents here and there that wouldn't make me qualified to build a
tunnel um under the Hudson R River you know even though I have a lot of construction background attorneys are the same you know you wouldn't want to get a hire an attorney that does uh closings and have
them represent you in a murder case and where I'm going is we have a a legal firm and I've requested to have a professional like a constitutional attorney um so that this Council anybody
has questions they could speak to that attorney and get advice with it um I haven't been provided one yet I I don't know if the things that they're saying are 100% right from I've done a lot of reading myself and a lot
of his interpretation but I think actually having a constitutional lawyer to be here to explain what rights are to people um that they see that have passed muster at the Supreme Court level not
just written up halfhazard that that would create the flag ban thing would be a good thing um we we've paid our attorneys uh quite a sum of money to come up with these ordinances and just where I'm going with it is I
I'd like to see a constitutional attorney and I don't know why we can't get one um council president can you follow up you know with our with our firm to find out where we are with that we'll do so thank you um councilman Cole did you want to say something council president I just
want to clarify the statements that the speaker made are false yes we had a situation with a flag the ordinance that this Council voted on was an ordinance on props if the speaker can ever find the ordinance and look at it and bring to my attention or anybody
here or highlight where it says that this Council ban a flag I'd love to see it so he's making false statements and he's here to just put flame on an old topic and he's being an agitator which is wrong for this Council and you should restore the public when this happens
it's continuous it it's going to eventually inscite violence and this this place will be packed with people we went over this before we went over this before he's well aware of it he asked me not to interrupt him I will interrupt him every time he makes a false
statement about this flag issue that was that was it was not it was an ordinance about a prop he knows it and he I know he can do better the fact is they come here to continuously put flame on an old story and eventually just agitate the
public and eventually that'll incite violence for those who are listening for those who are listening for someone who doesn't even give his name okay he wants me me to respect him and I got and I can't talk to my colleague about something I may as we choose we will
talk to each other when we want to at the same time he won't give this respect to give us his name right this is a back and forth opportunity to work with the public on issues that are meaningful that issue at that time we admit it was wrong in that issue but the fact of the matter is this Council knows the public
knows he knows the ordinance that was voted on this town in this Council was a prop ordinance it was not to ban a flag thank you council president all right councilman Coy councilman Co I would like to remind you that your comments made at this particular time are fine
it's fine but but interrupting a speaker in the middle of their time is not fine and so and so I'm I'm going to ask you to when you have comments to speak at the end of the speaker's time and not
interrupting that is not cool thank you just protect agit and protect people in sight violence go ahead okay um all right uh Russ somebody else I called on you
okay good evening council president council members uh I do have a list but uh name and address Russell for Skyler Drive Edison New Jersey uh to be uh
diplomatic there was a a vote on the flag Banning and United States Constitution that we were not supposed to hold hold it up at the podium while we were at the podium for our public speaking uh time which was 6 minutes at
the time now it's 4 uh we if if it wasn't a ban why was our friend and Edison resident Joel basso removed while he was holding a flag why was I at the podium holding Flags a handful of
flags and I was I was warned you know by the last council president that if I continued all the flags that I would risk Los forfeiting my my time speaking and if I continue then I wouldn't risk being removed from the council meeting
the only thing that saved me was I ran out of time so you know it's nothing personal about anybody that's sitting up there it's professional and business that we have a a problem with we're not allowed and because of the Quorum we're
not supposed to interrupt people or interrupt the speaker or yourselves well it goes both ways respect goes both ways regardless of whether you know somebody's first name last name their address it's irrelevant what matters is
the point that's being made it's the questioning that's being made we're we're supposed to that's our right to to have dialogue to question that's our right and we we deserve answers and we deserve respect as well it's nothing no
nothing personal about anyone but but be professional and be respectful uh pertaining to P public safety uh councilman brusher brought up about a Nel in a in a prior meeting about a nixel alert I believe there
should be an nixel alert pertaining to uh a Breakin A major traffic accident you know this way with a traffic accident motorist could avoid uh going in that in that direction and and avoid you know uh the traffic and making it U
even worse than what it is also if there's a Breakin you know let the residents know in that area so they could have the heads up they could be aware uh many times I see if I see a police car or several going by if I can I'll ask you know hey what's wrong you
know can I can I help uh can I look out you need me to look out for something not for nothing but I'm I'm an advocate and a neighborhood watch regardless of whether you want me or not I live in Edison I work in Edison my eyes and ears
are open I if I see something I say something if I if I see an accident I call 911 and I assist and I help if I see a problem or somebody that doesn't look he looks suspicious just doesn't look like he belongs in that area I mean
I'm living here 40 years I know who pretty much who should be in that neighborhood or not you know I'll stop and say hey are you okay you have a flat you know you need a car assistance can I help you and uh nine times out of 10 they'll say yeah you know uh we just stopped you know we do have car problems
or we stopped them use the phone or you know but that one time if I could deter or if we could deter one problem that's that's one that who who know knows what we're saving we could be saving a Breakin uh an assault or or a murder you
know let's get back to four uh to six minutes there's overcrowding o traffic there was just an accident at my location place of work Somebody went through my uh let's do a traffic study and Edison Township needs
to go with middlex County thank you Ross yeah your four minutes are up okay how about last time I didn't make it to the meeting last time thanks yes in the back hi my name is Anil ji I'm new that of Edison I was living in Long Island I
heard nice things about son very same neighborhood I moved there for first year was fine Suddenly I See lot of videos in my neighborhood ring and other security camera lot of breakings going
on and what gentleman said that's true when you ask police nothing but this in my street I want to know what's going on they wouldn't say anything but after that they will go around and look for the video camera um in my
there are three breaking in two weeks two weeks back on next to my street not my street my next to my street was breaking I saw the police nothing going and nothing being done if I knew this is
going on I wouldn't have mve in where I was living in Long Island was safe area I move in because of the safety but I don't feel safe in this neighborhood thank you okay thank you sir okay yes
sir Harry calakovic Ginger Drive Edison um as there were gentleman before me mentioned um lately there been a lot of break-ins in our neighborhood I live in Edison for 37 years have two children uh they grew up
went to Edison High um you know beautiful beautiful town to live in back then lately is becoming very scary um we never see a police in our streets hardly ever um if you read about it they always
hire new police officers I don't know where they are I mean you know it I understand that you know the people you know they do retire and new ones coming in and everything but when you have this kind of break-ins um you should put a little more you know extra police forks
I like to ask a captain Clara G and banam toown how many patrols you guys have at night Sir you would ask through ask through no it's okay you ask through me that's yes sorry goun okay uh and this is something like you know I mean
there's so many break-ins this is coming on heeman there was a 10:00 a.m. break-ins okay Pho Boulevard than God everybody's okay you know as everybody read about it no res they don't like
like they were saying before why they not they don't let us know we always get a text like when is an accident when is a you know like anything that's going on Edison but not for this kind of problems they never sent us anything like people don't people want to know I think they deserve to know but I guess they're
scared because of course people not going to want to move to Edison but it's fair to let people know what's going on and right now I live in Woodlands and Edison most like you people know where it is and it was a beautiful beautiful
neighborhood now starting with the CNA Global issues the traffic their accidents 6:00 you can even go on Morris Avenue anymore it's so congested and it's all this uh robberies and attempted robberies and everything please all we
asking is for a little extra police force you know to to patrol our area so you know we feel safe I mean I live on it's c a sec on Ginger Drive I hardly ever see a police officer Springtime and and the summertime I'm all was outside working I never see a patrol in our area
I mean thank God we even had an incident 4 years ago my wife saved my neighbor from being robbed 11:30 in the morning okay they they want to come and deliver furniture with the Toyota Camry you know
guy there's three people around it and that's it I mean that was thank God they didn't get robed but what I'm saying is like in a crime area like that you should really have a little more extra Patrol that's what I'm asking thank you thank you sir Captain Rebel um can you uh address this issue of the
break-ins and uh police presence so um specifically speaking sir the the uh the Manpower that's on the road I can't divulge that to you but currently during this current period um considering your request for for service
in your neighborhood in the bottom town area we are are using intelligence-led policing to review statistics and crime Trends to deploy more resources to your neighborhood so you will be seeing them I'm sure very soon um if not already and
there will be an increase in that neighborhood um what was the other question council president about the break-ins just in general um the break-ins are cyclical that that same night that you're speaking of the pho Boulevard um incident where there was a break in there was also one in mouen in
Woodbridge in the Edison incident no Pro proceeds were taken and unfortunately that's one of the worst crimes that can happen to you other than a violent crime is having your house um invaded and unfortunately uh you know we're we're applying a lot of resources to it but
it's a crime that is transient meaning that we never know when the next one's going to going to um happen and where but we're deploying resources in areas that we believe we we're going to have the the greatest outcome to have a positive result and make an arrest our
detective Bureau and our burglary I think the our burglary unit is one of the top burglary units in the state we work with other agencies throughout the state and the county to try to mitigate all of this of course Edison is a is a large town with a lot of residents and
it's a full-time job to do it right now we have more resources deployed we've redeployed officers that were in the building out back onto the street to try to suppress more crime but we're doing it in a way that um we don't put all of
our our resources in one area and then have another area then that the burglaries happen but it's a coordinated effort and it's a question probably that would take me an hour to explain and not that you don't have that time but this might not be the appropriate form for it
sir thank you Captain anyone else from the public council president yes councilman Brer yeah there there's two things right the nixel alert is something that I've been asking for for quite some time I said well my neighbor's property was broken into um I only found out like after everybody came
to the scene and they were doing an investigation you know if if when the 911 call was placed if a nixel alert went out to whatever a half mile radius around there you know just saying just like to do with um a child you know
potential child potential burglary um I'm sitting in my home at would have went off I could have looked out the window I might have seen a car got a license plate um it just helps you know it it helps solve the crime um and when you actually catch a couple of them you
know they go to an easier Target another town um but I'd like to see our department and and I want to go on the record for this one um and maybe maybe the department can give me a breakdown on this there's a town I believe it's I believe it's East Orange um not West
Orange I think it's East Orange they implemented some kind of um technology kind of driven thing that ties cameras and crime things and um it greatly reduced the the crime in East Orange over there and I believe that was
it I I've brought this up um actually in the past uh Administration and I'm not sure what the chief thought of it or you know I don't even know that they looked at it um but it was kind of remarkable because I spoke to a mayor over there and to the residents I have I have
people from Edison that moved there so I'd like to see if somebody can look into that and then maybe you know get back to me on that and tell me is it worth the investment or you know is this just uh making people feel good I I don't want the residents to feel good I want the residents to be good at the end
of the day you know um but that would be my request thank you thank you anyone else from the public can I get a motion to close public portion motion to close the public portion second thank you thank you okay um reports from Council
committees let me start with councilman brusher uh none at this time okay councilman coil uh we I just had a brief discussion with DPW uh about salt and winter preparation from the end of the season
and that's all I had council president thank you uh I'm going to go I'll skip to uh councilman Patel uh had a open space last Thursday uh question for trust fund
I see that the open space trust fund had 2.5 million last year we're going to go down to 667,000 two million of that going in angels field uh what what are we using that two million to do in the Angels field whole thing the whole thing
will be under open space okay and we also discussed the Edison bicycle initiative the jcpnl is the uh they'll be replacing Towers along the corridors and we're hoping that after that the trail will be started for the bike pass
uh the bike racks just getting an update the so we are installing um quite a few bike racks you'd referenced the uh skate park there is a permanent one there now was there another one that you wanted at at this building this building yes yeah that's included in the order okay
perfect um then we also discussed uh Stephen Island path uh I think that's a great path uh that connects the housing complex all the way to grow W and it's a
very safe it's between the two trees of the little island and I think open space would really love it if we can get a bike path because the sidewalks on the sides are from the 1960s where they're very narrow and people can't really walk side to side um so there are sidewalks
but unfortunately there's not useable sidewalks and they have a perfect perfect island in the middle uh we're hoping that and they have trees they'll be shaded and we're hoping that we can convert that into a a semi- bike path uh that people can use to ride safely
between and that will connect kids to the part Library too because the library is at the end of Stephenville Parkway so that is something that we're looking to pursue um I would like to get a meeting with you Sonia or Brian when you get a chance on that uh we also discussed the
r River area Barnes reserve and the Oak Tree Road and the Fairmont parcel uh we are still working through as to what we can do we play around we had some brainstorming ideas uh but not much came of it but we are going to go make a trip to the area and we're going to hopefully talk to the neighbors to see what they
would like in that area and move forward with that that that'll be it for me thank you thank you councilman Patel councilman Pati none at this time councilman shmu out of this time all right councilman pointer Council vice president sorry I'm sorry thank you
council president um just for reference the human relations commission will be meeting tomorrow 7 o'clock here in council chambers uh they will be celebrating women's history month and they'll have a couple of guest speakers including uh County Clerk nany picking
uh County Commissioner shanara Board of Ed members Virginia White and Shannon Pang and entrepreneur Mara Fisher and again that's 7 o'clock here in council chambers and last on February 25th the finance committee
had its initial meeting to uh start going over some of the budget items it primarily discussed the revenues and expenses from last year and we'll be having a follow-up meeting shortly thank you council president thank you and for myself uh animal shelter report uh
February report uh there were 12 dog adoptions 17 cat adoptions currently in house there are 11 dogs and 18 cats there are several upcoming fundraising events including the Tex uh Texas Roadhouse dinin chickfila dinin and St
Patrick's Day parade at Edison Pizza and I'll get you some details on that I'll put some details out there for Wednesdays meeting um there's a large event in the works which is the first annual Tricky Tray that would be July 19th in the Elks Lodge in South planfield
um although uh although the the cultural arts commission is not is not meeting until tomorrow we did have a meeting with the mayor today to discuss the status of things on smaller projects and
on larger Pro uh projects and um we are looking to get some murals painted around town we're looking at getting utility boxes painted around town the PSG boxes that we should be greenlighted
for um we are going going to look at the Jazz so Edison is not going to be teaming with the county for the Jazz but Edison is going to do their own thing possibly sometime in late August or early September details on that will uh
will be forthcoming but there will be a jazz festival also talked about some of the larger the larger prod projects that are probably not going to happen until sometime uh in in the later in the fall which would be the the big project of um
the c a um Performing Arts Center um so but we will be meeting tomorrow and um that's the end of my reports uh we move to Points of Light uh anyone have Points of Light council president um as was
mentioned just with the human relations commission's event tomorrow uh is women's history month so just wanted to point that out and it is also um National reading month with uh read Across America and such so just wanted to call those out thank you council
president thank you very much uh anyone else okay uh there's also so a couple of announcements here there will be a um on on March 15th is the St Patrick's Day block party at the old Stewarts lot it goes from 3 p.m. to 7 p.m. Monday April
7th very important T medicine is going to be hosting their annual event the Police Unity Tour at The Brownstone from 5:00 to 9:00 p.m. we want to support our our uh men and women in blue I believe there are 18 uh from the police department who will be taking part in the unity
Tour um let's see I got that um right and and the the unity Tour by the way starts on May 9th um no I'm sorry May 10th um the um important scheduling
change May the April meeting schedule uh it's not going to be April 7th there's going to be a combined meeting on April 16th Monday April 28th work session and Wednesday April 30th regular meetings um the changes will both will be both advertised and posted on the website um
all right discussion items uh let me go from the other direction I'll save the best for last councilman Brasher um let's start with Council uh councilman ptio that'll be quick
uh I hope you know we can have the Clos session not today maybe by Wednesday I'm sorry say again is the close session for the sage as well as glendel to get the update where we stand I think the last council meeting we mentioned
that there will be close session so I'm assuming it's not today okay it is that on Wednesday or it is following council meeting okay all right I need to know that all right session the next one is on the flooding remediation update any
update uh from the administration on St Parkway Calbert Summer Street JP Stevens Winding Brook any of those area anything moved and okay when I can expect because this
is on agenda this was on agenda last month as well and I know you know uh cumman deal knows that this is 10 years we continue to follow but if you can provide it provide some updates by at least by next council meeting will be
helpful we can't keep having this on agenda r or L DPW area beautification we spoke last time I think several times you know I know the chain fence was installed the trees were supposed to be planted do we know the schedule councilman PTI I believe I
provided that information to you but I'll recirculate it I need the schedule you know I was told that it will be done but I don't know the date again I'll provide that to you uh Clara Barton and Avenue last time we discussed I was supposed to be given the information how much money PSG or
utility companies providing to us and in what account I believe there was approximately 350,000 that was provided from the utility and that'll go back into can the um it'll offset the capital
correct so this will our debt okay so this will go in $350,000 will receive from the utility company to pay the entire mamb Avenue and all the inner roads no that offsets that is their portion of the utility what they would owe the township so that will offset our
debt um we did receive the funds already no the question is are they paying enough is the question the $350,000 I could refer to our legal council they paid what they were required to do I don't okay I need the estimation council president I think this is not going anywhere this is the
third time I'm talking now I know the dollar amount $350,000 uh if you I did ask the list of all the roads there they were ripped in the clarton section some of they were quite new and we have the ordinance that the anyone whether it's utility company
whether it's water or PG or the gas company they needs to restore to the original condition and I don't believe 350,000 is sufficient amount so I would like to know the the details from engineering I would like to know the details from uh what portion we are
talking about it's not halfway half Road or something like that but I need to know the number of Roads the linear mileage you know what is covered and what what's going to cost what will be covered in $350,000 I would consider this as a p
pure blunder if you're taking just $350,000 and not not complying to our ordinance uh I believe you know it's not there but on Resident complain you know I did ask the traffic no it's there Calbert and grow Avenue traffic study I
was told it's almost now second month I'm following I was told the report is there the engineering is reviewing engineering has provided a comment I was supposed to get last council meeting now it's after a month I'm asking the report do we have the report read the report is
being reved Red by the administration will provide a recommendation as well with legal in ETA I'm sorry any ETA when it can be provided um I can discuss that prior to the next meeting if that makes it to this agenda okay so we don't
have any definite answer that when we'll get the report that's what you're saying you'll get that soon I just again need to review it with the entire group okay so again soon has this is six months plus you know I'm asking the report I was told that we got the bid I was told
that you know the traffic study was done I was told the engineering is reviewed they provided a comment then I was told by Chief they have provided their input now here we go now Administration has to re review this is the same report all the department should have received and
they should have provided the their comments on that so if you give me if you tell me that the by next council meeting you'll have it councilman I'm okay with that but you cannot say soon soon means nothing to me I'm just asking the question
okay is there any answer I believe I just provided that to you again I need a definitive answer again counc president this is what I call as a disrespect to the council member you are asking councilman ptio when you can expect absolutely yes and
this is I'm asking this is the third month I'm asking when the report will be available right and you you had mentioned something Sonia about something about before the next meeting which is Wednesday I don't know if if that's what you were referring to oh I was referring to the next council meeting so in a couple
weeks okay so by next council meeting I will have the report okay that's what I'm asking by next council meeting thank you that's it thank you Council all right thank you very much uh where are we councilman Patel Just for me the safe route to
school there was a letter that was asked to be signed by the administration what do we need to do to get that done so um our office has communicated with the gentleman that you referred us to um he should provide us with the draft letter we don't have a letter so he did provide
one in the email U it was attached to it in there uh I didn't get that I'll forward to you okay thank you so we'll have that ready uh the mayor will sign it and it's just a letter there's no resolution required no thank you thank you very much uh councilman Coyle not
here um councilman Brasher um to to the attorney um I've been having difficulty and and and understand I'm going to try and take it easy on you on this one the last time that you and me had a
conversation um had nothing no bearing on on your personal work but it had to do with the firm I'm back to the same type of uh scenario here today so I'm going to hope that you can relay this message and correct it for
me there's three items um the fire alarm at the last council meeting on Monday I asked our counselor if he could get me a update on the fire alarm system
and what I mean by that was our chief explained to me that they should be done maybe sometime in April but I asked how many people we had that were working on the system um how many days they've been working on it just so that I can see that it's actually being done so I can verify this
um I then was expecting to have it by that Tuesday before Wednesday's council meeting and I didn't get it on Wednesday so then I called your firm on Thursday and um I spoke to one of the partners and what he told me was he would he would get me this
information and then on Tuesday he confirmed with me that he was going to get this information and here I am on Monday and of course I didn't get that information now that's that was one item the other item
was oh the Ada the the ramp outside um this one we've been talking about since I don't know December or so um we were told that the the committee we have a committee here and they do that I was on that committee and I I kind of know that
that ramp's not really compliant but I was told that we'd have a letter from the engineer saying that the ramp is compliant and I requested this on Monday expecting to get it on Tuesday uh called the partner at the firm on Thursday of
which he said I think that ramp could be um like grandfathered but I do know that you know with ADA compliance um that ramp was never ADA compliance from what I could see because this is what I did for a living um and and I informed
you know I informed him that this is what I did so I don't understand how you know it could be um but then again we confirmed it on Tuesday and here I am on Monday I still don't have anything on that then there was an item where we
were going to hire a plumbing contractor I believe it was to for I think it was $400,000 might have been $200,000 um to do plumbing work throughout the town and I request at the meeting to get a list of all the bills
for the plumbing contractor that we could have done um over the last year and what happened was the very next meeting it was taken off of the agenda because I believe the administration realized that they had a two-year
contract with this vendor so they didn't have to renew it but it doesn't stop that my requests for all the bills that we spent or projects because we have we have employ in the township that do plumbing so I was wondering what sort of large plumbing jobs they're not our our pump
stations because for there we hire an outside vendor and again it was the same process you know where I asked on Monday expected on Wednesday called on Thursday Did on Tuesday so so these three items are are together so if you can get to the bottom of that one for me or or
maybe have somebody tell me why and and I'll tell you why I'm not and and I'm good but at the at the next meeting if I don't get it I don't mean Wednesday's meeting but at the following meeting I'm going to probably lose it because I've been asking for this
information over and over and over again um and maybe at that meeting you could have one of those partners that told me I was going to get it come so that my questions are directed to the right person um question to the
ba um I brought up about we were talking about Park improvements for Edison Woods Park and some of the residents were complaining I brought this up I think a meeting ago or so that it was uh too intense for what was planned for that
neighborhood um and you were going to check with the administration to see if that could be scaled back and I I know that my ex-councilman Bob deal does the Parks um so are we scaling that back or I don't know if say are we scaling it
back or we is moving forward with the current plan so we're just revamping updating all of the park um you know the infrastructure with the playground so there's nothing that we're doing that would be out of the ordinary to any of the parks I know there were some
concerns um because it's seemingly a I guess you want to call it a neighborhood park however um we're really trying to improve the quality of life for that neighborhood so we felt that those improvements were important um so I don't know we're not in back anything in terms of what we've already planned and
certainly I can provide that to you at length well know the question was the residents came to me and they told me that it looked like it was too intense for the area so I was what I was asking for was that we don't do the Jackson Avenue debacle right where we're going
to do what we or or the administration is going to do what the administration wants to do but nobody speaks anybody on Jackson Avenue so what my request was was that the administration reach out to what the neighborhood is is looking for their their fear was
that what you had planned for their park was going to bring people from the outside so what wouldn't be a neighborhood park it would be a destination Park uh I don't believe we we feel that way and DPW recommended those changes those upgrades so I think that they're
uh prudent changes to the park and we hope to enhance again the neighborhood um I we don't see any concerns with any outside uh people in the park uh we haven't had any concerns really in any other Park about outside issues so um we certainly will watch that to make sure
that that remains that way no my my question is are you going to reach out to the neighbor should I just tell the neighborhood you're going to move ahead forward with whatever you had planned and you actually don't care that they complain to me and ask me to look at it it doesn't matter to me either way I just want to know what to tell them you know what I mean are you moving forward
I to encourage them to reach out to the administration that's what I would encourage them to do um and we can certainly sit down with those residents and discuss discuss the plans okay thank you um bird flu um some residents had some
concerns about the bird flu because we had some dead birds were the birds tested so the one of the um I guess if you call one of the state requirements that if there was less than 20 birds or
in this case um geese um there W testing was not required however there was then another update that there was in a sort of I guess um I don't want to use the necessarily use the word assumption but there would be a certain area that it would may be presumed to be um we my to
my knowledge we have not tested there were certain instances that um it didn't look like the issue was necessarily the bird flu rather there maybe issues that we couldn't remove it because they were frozen in the lake um so we couldn't remove them as fast as we could uh but
as far as that we report everything to either the county or the state but we haven't um there was no testing to my knowledge at this moment but I can certainly follow up okay so the County's aware that we had some dead birds all around the yes in the State Pond right
okay there was 10 uh 10 or between 10 and 12 okay um roads uh my Council colleague did bring something up so right I I mean I go down to Clara Barton um to eat
um and I noticed that um it's it's their roads down there in clar Barton I did notice roads up on the south side and I did notice the roads in front of my own home which is on Grove Avenue and um
Mount Pleasant um which I travel down and these roads are all new roads and when I say new couple years um and they've been torn up right opened up for I don't know what could have been
cable right not really sure what but I do know that they've been patched and they're not fully paved like our ordinance says um in fact I will guarantee you that within three years
they're all going to pop up and I'm have pop potholes all over the town um so what are we going to do about all of these areas that they opened up the roads here in Edison are are we going to make them confirm and conform to our
laws that say when you open them up you got to pave you know entire length especially when it was a newly paved Road I mean that's always been a a pet peeve in M the past administration I complained because they' PVE a road and then you see the water company opening up and they assigned that to the
engineering company uh here and and they did a remarkable job of um you know making sure that utilities were INF firsted but for some reason that's not a high priority agenda councilman uh brusher so with the
winter and a lot of utilities having been all all those infrastructure restor we have to wait until um the weather is consistent above 50 uh in order to go back but certainly we I will check with our engineer to see what specifically
happened over on Grove you mentioned the full length grove Grove Mound Pleasant so what it looks like are there's like little trenches right they're about 5 in by 5 foot let's say and they're sporadic um through the entire town but these are brand new
paved roads so as anybody knows once you make that opening you penetrate that road um it's going to leak water gets underneath it freezes and we end up with potholes all over right so it's just like we didn't manage we didn't manage
them so the way I'm looking at it is those roads should be repaved um even if it's topped or something um but and that's what I'm looking for the administration is tell me yes we're going to take care of these roads and we're going to make sure that they're repaved uh
uh oh Stelton um I know we allocated funds for Stelton Stelton School Stelton Community Center whatever we' like to go by now um it seems like it's well it's like the toad Center it doesn't seem like we're moving ahead
with anything over there when is the anticipation opening of the Stelton school so with regard to the Stelton school right now we have an engineering firm that's out there doing a remediation a remediation study they're putting together um together
some sort of um review of what exactly we need to do as far as environmental so we need to do that um before we uh go ahead and continue to do we've done some exterior work we've ordered Windows those things are all in play however we want to make sure before we get into
inside of the building that's done um I can certainly follow up with our engineering team to see what the next step is but I I am pretty aware that we've contracted with the firm to take a look at that well let me tell you now that's a concern cuz that's the first that I've heard about this um it was
quite some time ago and maybe somebody from the public can help find uh that video um where I I we allocated I think it was $3 million in funds uh to refurbish the community center which I thought was a great idea right I went out there I looked at it I met DPW
director um the whole thing right soup the nuts going to be done and it's going to open and you're telling me now about an environmental study so I don't know what did you find inside oh it's not necessarily what did we find I mean it's a public building so anything time
there's an aging building uh that's what we do as far as our due diligence um it's it's certainly something of concern and we would do that so we're following the process right but wouldn't you do that before you invest money into it the plan is to
invest the money and we need the money in order to do the remediation for example so I don't know how much the remediation May cost no what I'm saying we did we did a roofing uh that was one of the things that we were able to do at the very least right so you did roof in I see you're doing windows but if you're
doing some kind of environmental study and it comes up that it's contaminated with lead or whatever it else and the building should be torn down then we just wasted the roofing money and the window like like we should have done that study at the beginning right before you start the project so we did do that
um to make sure that this was not a building that if we invest money into that again to your point it would be uh you know loss but we we did that um knowingly full well that we would have to do a certain remediation because it was closed for a very long time as you
know no I do and and I know that there's asbest in there and I'm hoping that you're not going to come back to this body and tell me that the asbest has to be removed well we may have to come to this body depending on how much the cost of the remediation is just like any other building let me ask you a question
then when I met with DBW director and he fully well knew that it had asbest in it um the mayor knew it had asbest in it I knew it had spus in it and anybody up here knows anything knows it had aestus in it but they were going to do like an encapsulation of it um it was like
flooring they were going to go over the top now so right now it looks I'm like maybe there's more to it that that we're not aware of um the only esus we knew about was on the floors I asked if it was in the plaster and stuff and I was told no so that that's why I have this
you know this concern here now because the whole thing just stopped after we appr approved $3 million can you give me I tell you what could you just give me a breakdown of how much money we've spent on that project to date and if and I'd like to see if I can get that before
Wednesday uh sure I think if I could um uh ask the clerk also there were some resolutions that had been approved by this body so um if that could be supplied to you as well and I'll certainly provide any other uh updates okay thank you
um plumy bills mailer uh Patrick now I have other questions here that I believe um should be done in a closed session um I'm fully well prepared to do it here openly um like the sage
Architects to Glendale um you know like things so are we going to have a closed session at the next Wednesday meeting yes thank you okay then that's all I would have for today thank you okay thank you
councilman Coyle thank you council president I'm going to stick to just three things and I'm gonna try to stick to these three things for the next six months uh first is the the a plan for affordable housing if if the administration could give me a quarterly
plan or a 12-month plan of affordable housing what our strategic plan is going to be to provide housing um I don't the answer today no council mccoil I'm actually referring to our um attorney who had been working on that if there's any sort of update I think um we're just
right now going through some of the the Motions that are required for us to complete for example with the planning uh firm that is correct um so Edison has a long history of meeting its affordable housing
obligations uh we intend to continue to meet those obligations and the process that this municipality is following will um provide a plan
I I want to say approximately in June and it's being worked on with to get a an affordable housing planner in place to come up with that plan okay well if if I can get a conversation offline just our deadlines and timelines
to make sure we don't miss uh our Point what I don't what I want to make sure is that we're prepared to have something available rather than to have a builder come in and present something that we don't want and again when I look at the public and things we've done on
Facebook and how we run to kill six or four homes being built the real problem is is the large Builders who want to build 200 units and stick it in the place that you don't want it and we should somehow come together collectively to find out where we on
housing and have that opportunity to come together but uh let's see if they they meet but uh I would want to have that conversation and and and what the plan is June is a long way but I I can be patient uh next since we talked about bamboo for 15 minutes council president
can I talk about opioids for 15 minutes you could you can talk as long as you want about opioid I I I I just thought for me I just thought that conversation was mute to one point I do respect my colleagues and I I know my colleagues for councilman Co just
move on with talking about opioids council president I don't need to be corrected I had I have the floor I have the right to speak okay I have the right to speak I mean it's I'm I'm just being genuine to believing that hey they have the right to talk about it it's all great I don't need I don't need any
sarcasm added to it um I did vote for you the um so rather than talk about bamboo let's talk about something that's really important which is the opioid crisis and that we have $1.5 million to Market that opioid
crisis I'm asking the administration for a plan and I just want to you know just remind some people how much it affects you know um not just the person the families um the mother the Father the
brother the sister the workplace but just you know we can talk about we had 3,000 deaths 3,000 Plus plus deaths in 2019 3,000 plus deaths in 2020 we're coming down a littleit
2600 vote U debts in 2021 and 2022 2800 debts plus and 22 and 2700 plus and 23 this is for New Jersey State uh of deaths now compareed to
Motor Vehicles going from top to bottom we had less than 600 to 700 motor vehicle accidents death by Auto in five years I just want to do a small comparisons now cancer of course is much much much deeper than that but I think
it's important we have the money um and I hope that we can have a plan I hope this counil could participate I hope this council could consider talking more about it um it's just important it will affect everyone it doesn't pick your your financial commitment in life it
doesn't fit pick uh whether you're rich or poor it do educated or not it picks anyone who decides to use opioids and as we all know fentanyl is here and Fentanyl just one Sniff and it's over um I am fortunate I've worked with Chief
Tom Bryan and his administration and Command Staff and we do have a great service through EMS that will come out and uh we Naran and Naran is available for everybody to to help out we've had several Naran um turnover which I'm
proud of and I do get a report of that and I'm thankful for that through Chief Tom Bryan and his and his Command Staff but we have the money you know uh if we don't do a plan perhaps someone will build the plan for us but the money is there it's important we campaign to use
it I think it's a great opportunity to use it and I'm looking forward to seeing that plan and I I'm going to ask every every meeting about that another issue I'm going to ask every meeting about is marketing and the the need for an economic development for the town again
as people members of the public come here and members that are not from the public and not from this town come here and talk about how we need change and what we need and not need uh paying attention to a large retail Box Store disappearing in your town and as the economy changes where Stop and Shop was
here now gone what is it going to be next I don't have I'm not aware of that today sometimes that is uh bigger League of brokers who discussed that but we should be wounding some other opportunity into this town before it becomes something we don't want not having a grocery store in your town and
your little Community slowly it's just not a good sign um really is I mean the days of having a hardware store and a and Amboy AV has a butcher not the bragat Amboy Avenue but how we got lucky to get a butcher uh we're very fortunate but at one time you know downtowns we
thriving with pharmacies hardware stores uh cheese shops Co um different shoe stores and Nows were just becoming service and what what I hear from residents when they come here and complain you know I think sometimes we also have to add the complaint of marketing because marketing Wes the
opportunity of someone renting a space for a longer period and could be a specialty store so um again I I asked my colleagues to join me and if we're not going to find an economic development uh coordinator I ask that the administration you know provide a plan of marketing simple marketing we get
have Billboards come to Edison we get I mean we have been fortunate that Top Golf chose Edison you I can't begin to tell you how many mayors call me and say Joe can you get the contact of top golf will they come through our town and guess what they don't they came here organically because Edison is the
crossroads it's it's a better location than Woodbridge it's a better location than East Brunswick and you look around we have the crossroads of a highway access Parkway access Turnpike and 287 we're right at the cliche uh of great location that's why Meno Park Mall was
built and that's why people we would hear from new York to shop in our locations but as again as the trend is changing what is Meno Park Mall is it indoor shopping is it going to be outdoor shopping we should be prepared for the next steps that are happening because we could make a huge difference
in Edison I'm proud to live here when people come to The Mark phone say how um something is detrimental to the community someone comes to the microphone and talks about eight homes being built that are $1.5 million to the down and that's detrimental I am super
confused that those state I I'm just confused because what's detrimental is an empty grocery store that will become something you don't want that'll be a big change not having grocery store not having specialty stores in your community not having the feel of a real downtown and having
service next to signage you know the great signage in your community it's going downhill controlling signage banners and how a towntown looks I can provide hundreds of photos of downtowns and how they've changed and just become a ghost town and can quickly happen so
thank you council president for your time I didn't keep it a lot less than 15 minutes you did and I thought it was much better than bamboo and I'm just sorry I love I do appreciate the bamboo story but there's so many other topics that are important than bamboo thank you thank you Council vice
president uh thank you council president in regards to ordinances for consideration just a an honest request for my Council colleagues I send out emails with dra s of ordinances that we see upon this body and I asked for
feedback ahead of time to avoid those half hour conversations that we had earlier today so my request is when I send something out and make an honest effort to get feedback to please do that behind the scenes so that we do not
waste people's half hour out here talking about the same thing I tried to get done two months ago um in regards to ordinances for that I've drafted up for consideration um I got a response back from the administration today in regards
to the LI light industrial transition zones that I'm trying to um Implement uh there are some concerns so I'm looking back for that looking forward to that feedback from the administration and hopefully moving that forward um I sent over a draft for
environmental resource inventory ordinance which again would just provide additional information to the planning or zoning board on environmental items to any applications um pertaining to to have certain criteria that are met um a
request to councilman brusher and councilman pel at in November there was concern about the rental unit ordinance and I had provided a a draft of potential changes to address some of your concerns if I can get some feedback on those potential
changes um councilman Coyle you mentioned about the sign updating our sign aens I do have a draft of that it's 60 pages so I'll give you that way ahead of time to uh to uh review and same thing with uh the administration that
one would be a bit of a heavy uh heavy um heavy read and then uh finally um council member Brer about the road paving one simple solution that I think we could do right now we have a 5year
moratorium on Paving that you have to go side to side or curb to curb uh we may want to revisit I saw some townships that have as a seven-year moratorium uh specifically in the col Barton section
um if you go up seventh the part closer to Amboy Avenue is fully paved and then you get to the intersection of Hoover and then it goes to only half and that's because they had only done the paving up to Hoover and then didn't do that
stretch and that was a recommendation that I made to the administration about trying to coordinate a little bit better on that so that in these repaving items we don't get that that weird looking break that happens uh that would be it council president thank you thank you Mr
President I'd like to respond to council vice president comment on the bamboo ordinance we can discuss in the email but when the resident sent an email I didn't see your response to that his specific ask about grandfathering of the bamboo ordinance
and I left to your judgment because you are the one who was sponsoring this legislation I expected you could have outlined some sort of a pointer saying hey this is how the enforcement will happen I'm asking question on behalf of the resident rather than because I
thought there will be Email exchange back and forth except you know thank thank you to Sonia who said she acknowledged uh but acknowledgement doesn't solve the problem so someone should have visited really that location should have understood what the problem is and probably you know you could have
responded to resident saying hey this is what we are trying to do this is what can happen this is what cannot happen again that's my ask to you know who are is sponsoring the bill rather than me going and you know answering somebody's question there that that's a clarification that was needed thank you just offer
clarification I took that response as the administration was going to uh provide that feedback so if I M stuck on that I I apologize but this ordinance is not Administration in the ordinance is we are the one who propose the ordinance
or changes and I wouldn't expect again could be me based on what we are dealing last three years I wouldn't expect any input on the ordinance right coming from ordin from the administration or from the attorney but again you know we can talk this offline
and that was ly the reason we had the back and forth on that because I'm trying to defend the resident the taxpayer who would be penalized because of some of the enforcement of this ordinance thank you sir and council president just real quick um about the housing the the ordinance for the
housing um initially we met in the back room right and we talked about Council being involved and negotiating that I understand that the attorney is actually the one that's in there doing the negotiations um can that be added to our closed session because we have it's been
a couple months now we haven't had any sort of update or anything on that about the affordable housing yeah absolutely MH yes rental no the rental yeah the rental yes right well we affordable housing was another question but I understand there but yeah it was a
rental inspection yes yeah M council president yes I actually had a question for counc brusher you said something about the East Orange technology I tried looking it up I couldn't find it uh the only thing could really find was like a 2014 article about murder rates being decreased but
then I also found that in 2018 East orang still had much higher crime rate than us if you don't mind if you find that I would love that thank you yes so I'll forward that over to you and and you happen to be on the cable committee yes somebody send you his
number um to get his contact you know what I mean so when residents have problems they can go to you you can make like Optimum great once they called us and we called Optimum your problem was taken care of uh before we got a hold of it you were in a black hole you
know okay okay okay yeah all right uh for myself um I don't need to address the uh the bird illnesses because that was already addressed um I had put down about the matachin that the Arts area that they're sending up it's it's more
of a point of just man I'm so jealous because apparently the plan is the Forum theater is going to be uh is going to be knocked down but they're going to build a new Forum theater that's going to be multi-purpose and it's going to be a big Arts a big Arts area and I don't I know
Edison does not have an old theater to rehabilitate um but uh I'm just as as as being such a fan of the Arts I'm just so envious of what matachin is doing and hoping that we on the cultural arts
commission can have something to Crow about soon in terms of a Performing Art Center so that's it for me um can I get a motion to adjourn motion to adjourn second this meeting is adjourned at 8:09
p.m. thank you everybody see you Wednesday