Oh, did I kick everyone off by doing that? >> I may have. >> Yeah, I I was going to log off and then come back in, but I think it's okay. >> Oh, you were going to do it. Okay. >> Sorry. >> Hold on.
Everybody's back coming back on now. >> Kicked everybody out, Jerry. >> Yeah, I know. >> Yeah, >> I did it. Jody wouldn't do it. He's too nice. I'm I'm the kind of guy who kicks everybody out, Chris. >> Okay, good.
So, so Joe, Joe, it says here um um Agora City is currently the host. Reclaiming host may disrupt. Yeah. So, I'm not going to do anything. I'm just going to X out of this. >> Okay. >> All right. Okay. Good. That works.
Joe, I just got back from the Keys last night and it uh makes me look like I your background to be honest with you. That was I was looking at them for the last uh five days and now I'm back in Jersey. >> You were in the Keys. I want to go there. Progress.
>> It's be it is hot. Like unbelievable. >> Yeah. I don't need to go this time of year. I want to go when it's cold here. Yeah, it looks beautiful. >> It is. >> I've been to Florida a million times, but never there. >> There's
>> Did you go to Key West? What um Key did you go to? >> We went to Duck Key. There's a resort called um uh Hawke Resort. >> Oh, yeah. A friend of mine um always talks about it. Really likes it. She takes her her daughter there.
>> I can't hear. I'm on Zoom. I just want to see if you can come in and show me where I would be able to fix that. >> Rick, we can hear you. >> Joe has palm trees.
>> I want to go where you are. >> I know. >> It's It's really hot here. I'm in my bathing suit, you know. Oh god. I'm gonna say hi. >> Look. Look at Look at you as the background. I'm
>> glad you enjoy it. >> I want to go back. >> Miss just came back. >> Oh, that's right. >> Read her text. >> Jody me said, "Read your text." >> I wrote her back. I heard your back.
>> Can you hear me? >> Hi, Scott. I can hear you. We can hear you. >> Okay. >> Yeah, Scott's good. >> Was that your first time there, Chris, or you'd been there before? >> I was in Key West a couple years ago. >> But I went to that resort to the Hawks K. Have you been there before?
>> Nah, first time. >> You like that? >> I did. Yeah. >> It's uh 7 o'clock on my clock. Yes. >> Are we ready? We uh Do we have a flag, Jody? >> Oh, sorry. Yes. Give me one second.
>> I have one if you need it. Do you want my flag? >> Do we have a quorum here? We have to check that first, right? >> Three. Four. >> Tanner's not going to be here. >> Okay. We only have one.
>> Six. You have at least six. >> We have six. want to use this flag. >> Yeah, that's good. >> Yeah, we have six. >> All right, we have so >> stand and salute the flag.
>> Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. >> To the stand, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay, welcome to the June 25th, 2026 A
Carver City Council meeting. Uh, in compliance with the open public meetings act, state of New Jersey, adequate notice of this meeting, uh, city council was provided in the following manner. It's been posted on the AC Carver city bulletin board, posted on the AC Carver
city website, and notice was sent to the Hamilton Gazette and the Atlantic City. U roll call please. >> Mayor Jim Penny >> here. >> Dovy >> here. >> Galloway >> here.
>> Heist >> here. >> Hessie >> here. >> Kenir >> here. >> Ortiz. Mr. Ortiz. >> He's not going coming tonight. >> Okay. I'm sorry. Uh Mr. Sen.
>> Yes. >> Timbers. Mr. Timbers was here. He's on his way. He's going to be joining. And Mr. Wright >> here. >> Okay. Okay. >> Okay. Um, is there public on the on
here? Does anyone wish to be heard from the public? >> Hello. >> On agenda agenda items only. >> Yes. >> Can you hear me? >> Yes. >> Okay. Uh, my name is Michelle. I'm at
509 Fifth Terrace. Uh item number 13 authorizes the submission of a grant application for the Moss Mill Road landfill. And I received information uh suggesting that environmental investigation activities may have already occurred at that site
last year. >> Ryan, are you on here? >> Ryan McGawan here. >> I don't see >> I could I could answer that. There's different there's kind of different stages of these grants. So the initial one is what they call prelim prelim
sorry preliminary assessment. Um so that's kind of the first round. Then the second one is basically um I think they call it um remedial investigation and site investigation. And then the third one is the actual remedial action. So
this I believe is the second stage. >> Okay. Um, so were those those were approved by the NJD pay? >> Yes, that's a question.
>> Like to like to fund the grants? Yes, they were awarded from the D. >> Okay. Well, was there any environmental borings, test pits, monitoring walls, or other subsurface investigations conducted at the landfill that penetrated or otherwise disturbed the
landfill cap? You want me? Yeah. Sorry. Okay. So, the um the environmental consultant who is doing the work got a landfill disruption permit from NJD.
The landfill is not officially capped. Um as part of their investigations, they found that there's not um sufficient cover. Usually, if the contaminants in landfill are not um you know, considered to be too too much of a concern, 2 feet
of clean fill over the site is is sufficient. And sometimes if you do borings and you find that there's sufficient cover there, they'll actually just let you kind of leave it and then consider it covered. But from what I understand, um for their investigations, there's portions where there's not 2 ft of cover. So, they're going to have to
go through and propose a closure plan which will include a cap which likely will be 2 ft of clean cover because there hasn't been um very much identified. But they did they haven't just been, you know, running around poking around hope for the best. They did get a landfill disruption permit from NJP. They had a whole boring plan
that was approved by D. Um and then D is funding it through the HDSRF grant funds. >> Okay. And are those reports available online or is that something that we have to submit an open public records request? >> So this the city is not even in receipt
of all of that stuff yet. The city has entered into a redevelopment agreement with the redeveloper and the redeveloper has hired a consultant to conduct this work. Since it's being done on city property, it's eligible for HDSRF grant funds and we will get copies of all that. But the final reports and all um
are not yet available. I just had a call with um the environmental consultant who's doing uh the vast majority of the work probably a week and a half or two weeks ago just to get an update and they sent me an updated um like groundwater flow direction map just a schematic of
the site um you know with with some uh just basic information sort of a quick summary um but final reports and all will all have to be uh provided to the city. >> Okay. Thank you. Sure.
>> Thank you. Anyone else from the public wish to be heard on any agenda items? >> Okay. Seeing none, seeing none, we'll go to uh number five, which is approve the minutes. We don't have any. Is that right? Uh
>> correct. Correct. >> Okay. >> They're not completed yet. >> All right. So, we'll skip that for tonight. Um mayor's report number six. >> Yes. Um, I guess everyone knows that we got our new fire truck last night. It came into town escorted by the old
ladder 10 truck and it was quite quite an event. Um, just a reminder that that fire truck was paid for through the sale of the water treatment plant. We did not take a loan out for that or anything. It was just what we committed to our fire
department because our ladder truck was too old to be in service anymore. It wasn't a frivolous expenditure. It was a much ne needed expenditure according to the rules for firet trucks. Also, I would like to thank Gary Hess and Krec
organization for mulching the Kaboom playground on Philadelphia Avenue. They spent $7,000 for mulch and had some volunteers doing some free labor. So, it saved the city quite a lot of money and I certainly appreciate all Gary does and
Kre does for our community. Um, speaking of grants, we did get a I got a official letter from the EPA. We have a grant of $500,000 for a cooperative agreement for an assessment grant and that will be for the old dump.
>> Okay. >> Um, Ryan, did you want to say anything else about that? >> Yeah. So technically the grant includes um phase one investigations of I believe it's 10 sites and phase two investigations of I believe five sites.
So that the dump is the primary one but it's really addressing sites um all over town and a phase one essentially just goes through the complete history of the site and then a phase two um usually does a little more like actual investigation type work. Um, so yeah, that that's a big one for
the city half million dollars to get a good handle on um, you know, where these sites are and try to get them back into productive reuse is uh, it's obviously helpful. >> Y started talking fast. And we also we also got an NJD I bank grant which Ryan will probably
tell you a little more about too for $2 million which is great news to plan for um redoing our uh wast things and things like that. And also as we go into these
streets and remake those repairs, we will be able to repair the roads and have new roads also. Ryan, you want to go there? >> Yeah. So, the the grant actually covers the planning and design of the
replacement of pretty much all of the city's storm management infrastructure. So, uh, if you'll recall in late 24, we started, um, trying to use what's called clean water funds. The city is eligible for $3 million that can be used for, um,
design, inspections, and construction. So, we just awarded that project. Uh, we did lock in the FY26 funds. So, the city will be eligible for another 3 million next year for for construction and and, uh, other related. But, this is just planning and design. So we'll be able to
um get a handle on the entire system um run the calculations to figure out the hydraulics for the entire city and redesign the entire system for the city and then we can keep going back and and applying for um the clean water funds to actually you know construct it. So um
you know it'll be a lengthy process. It involve permitting. It'll involve um essentially plans that are ready to bid to some degree. Um and then you know as we get the clean water funds we can move forward with construction of it. So it's it's huge because the the city I mean we
we just talked about a pothole um I think two or three meetings ago and that pothole is because one of the old pipes in the system that we're about to replace collapsed. So you know the these items are there and it's not something anybody's thinking of but it's a real cost to the city when stuff like that happens. you know, single repairs might
be 15 $20,000. And you know, that that only fixes one little spot. Um, you know, the other thousand thousands of feet of the same pipe are in the same condition. Uh, and the old inlets that we had, the city style inlets, all of them are not compliant with the current MS4 requirements, uh, the opening sizes are
too big. So, we're replacing all of those. So, it's it's been a huge windfall for the city. And I'd like to thank R&B and especially Ryan for bringing that program to our attention several years ago and we did try to get it a few years back, but I
think we're a little late at the um get-go and so luckily we got it this year. So, thank you Ryan and R&B. Also, just a reminder that we did because of Nette's work with the um heat island
things and whatnot, um we did get a shade structure grant for $50,000. And uh Jody and I were and my husband were over there measuring for the shade cover. Anyone that visits the Kaboom playground on Buffalo Avenue knows how hot it is. The sun is directly on that
playground all day. And this will be a great help for the kids to have a nice shade structure over their playground. And we we only have enough for one section, but hopefully we'll be able to apply for more. Um, also, uh, just one
thing else I'd like to bring up that the fire department has requested that we look at streets for, um, parking on and the streets go sideways. If you know what I'm talking about, it's Argo Beethoven
um uh camp bodius blah blah blah for parking on both sides of the road. They had recommended that we address some of the issues that are prevalent right now. So, uh, the council, the redevelopment
committee and the highway committee met today and we sort of talked about the streets that we really have to address right away that should not be parked on both sides so the fire trucks can get in in the event there's an emergency. And
there'll be more to come on that at the next meeting. Um, Rick, did you want to talk any more about that or Joe? Well, just to um reiterate what you said, some of the the streets uh the east west streets uh when people park on
both sides, it's very limited access. So there's a recommendation from the police chief uh on several blocks that where we should um uh aggressively enforce uh the
or existing ordinance that exists uh for parking only on one side of the street. So >> thank you Rick and I don't have anything else other than u we won't meet again until after July 4th. So, happy July 4th
to everyone and happy 250 to the USA, our great country that we live in. Thank you. >> You, mayor. All right. Uh 6A, our administrator, Jerry. >> Thank you, Joe. Um this evening, I have
a letter that I was asked to present from the um construction official, Steve Buckhoffer. Uh the construction official is recommending Gus Morganetti as the acting building subcode. Uh he has been
working with us for several months and on a part-time temporary basis. He's been working for us for several years now. He holds all of the required uh UCCc licenses. Um and um what Steve is recommending is that even
though Brian Malas Malazo was hired um for property uh code as well as uh UCCC licensing, Steve is asking as the department head for the city to support his decision and recommendation to hire
Gus Morgani so that um he has someone here with experience. Uh when I spoke earlier with the council president about this um my feeling was that um you know the city and the administration needs to support the department heads. The department heads are very experienced.
In this case Steve uh I think has 38 years experience in in the building department and in uh as a construction official and a fire official. And so it's very important that the administration support uh their staff and the uh department head in their
recommendation. So, um, I have this on the, uh, as one of my items that I want to go over this evening. The, um, I'm not sure if if there was a resolution to, to do this. There may have been in the past. Um, so I don't know where where that is.
>> Yeah, that's an add-on, Jack. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I have something to say as the chair of code department. >> Go ahead. Um, I'd like to table this issue so that the committee could review the current situation because I've not
been privy to any developments regarding this matter since March and this issue was only brought to my attention today at 3:30. So given these circumstances, I believe the committee should convene to discuss the matter before any decisions are made.
And I make a motion to table this. Well, I I would say something before there's a second that um we don't really have time to do that because DCA only allows temporary employees to
run uh the sub code position and we are at the end of that time frame which is very short. >> Yeah. >> And he can't be a temporary employee. it has to be someone that is appointed to the position.
>> So that was uh Mr. Buckhopper's uh statement to me that you know this is >> this is there was there was a and we can't talk about personalities or people here. We have to talk about the position itself.
>> So it's it's it's something that we need or we're going to have trouble with DCA. My concern with this is there was no notice whatsoever to discuss this with Steve or or anyone between the committee
that I really feel that we need the time because had he have known this before I'm guessing he's known this for a while Jerry have you known this for quite a while that this had to be done >> because he knew that Brian had to take the tests.
>> He he did he did Kim and he passed it. So he is he is certified now to be the building inspector. But I received this letter earlier today and it's always been my position that uh a department head especially um those of us with a
lot of experience should take the recommendation of the building department or the the the department head very seriously. U but I only received this letter earlier today from Joseph. Not only that, you know, the uh the
person that we're talking about that passed the test doesn't actually have a license at this point. >> So, we can't appoint anyone else at this and Gus has been doing a great job for us from what Steve tells us. So, >> he actually has as a preliminary
license. He's had it. He passed all everything except for he had to take two tests which you said he had taken in May >> and he's waiting for that license. >> Doesn't have a license from DCA at this. Can >> Hold on. We we have there's two motions on the table right now and the other
one's been seconded. Uh Committee Galloway made a motion to amend the to welcome the resolution and Committee Hess then made a motion to um to table. So if there there needs to be a there if
there's no second, both motions fail. So >> I'm going to second Miss Galloway's motion. >> Okay. And now there can be discussion. And now there's uh Councilwoman Pess's motion to table is is on without a second.
>> I have a question. Can I ask a question first? >> Yeah. Now that there's a Yes, absolutely. >> Okay. My question is this Brian, he's a temporary employee. He wasn't hired on as a permanent position to do this job. Or was he given the assumption
that if he got his licenses, this was going to become his position. >> He was hired as a permanent part-time employee >> and then >> but was he told to get these licenses and then he would become his permanent position? >> Go ahead, Kim. Please answer me.
>> Yes. As a matter of fact, in Brian Malazo's position, what we actually signed on was the uh resolution basically said that Brian uh would be code enforcement officer and then the
acting head of the department under the supervision of the construction official. And so that was providing you know that he got >> on my team. I just switched. >> Yes. providing that he got his license. Yeah. >> Yes. And he had
>> he had until I thought August it was to get the license. >> So I he was under that impression as far as I know, but everything ended with me in March. So I don't know where where what anybody actually said to him. >> You can't have a temporary person in
that position for that longer period of time. So it that's what the problem is right now. That's why uh Steve is recommending this and move forward. We have a qualified person who's been with us for a while now and he's done a good
job and uh >> so so basically this Brian went this Brian went and got his licenses and now he did all that and >> he don't have a license right now. >> He just passed all the tests to have the license.
>> Correct. So the license is in it's in the process of becoming an official license. If you pass the test, it becomes in the process. >> I don't know what the hold up is. He passed the test the end of uh >> April May, I think. End of May.
>> Okay. I'm going to second the t I'm going to second the table of of >> councilwoman Hess because >> I believe that there's a mixup and I don't believe this is fair to this young man who came to work for us was told that this is going to be his position and now it's being ripped out from under
it and what I also don't believe is fair is decisions are being made before they're taken to the committees. If we're a committee government, the someone makes the suggestion, it then goes to the committee. It's discussed among the committee. If the committee agrees, then it comes to council. That's
not happening lately. That didn't happen with this and it didn't happen with something else that's on the agenda for this evening. >> There's a motion >> table takes precedent. So, >> there needs to be a vote. >> There needs to be a vote. We'll do a roll call vote, please. >> We vote
on the table this or not. >> Okay. No, not the Chris with the motion. >> Motion table. Where's the motion? >> The table. >> Motion to table is >> okay. Are we ready for roll call? >> Go ahead. >> All right. Dovy?
>> No. >> Galloway? >> No. >> Heist? >> Yes. >> Pessie? >> Yes. >> Kenir, >> no. Sen, >> uh, negative.
>> Timbers, >> no. >> And right, >> yes. >> Okay. So, uh, table does not pass. What was the vote? >> 53. >> 54. >> 54. Okay.
>> So, um, there is a motion and it was seconded by me. Uh, by Miss Galloway made the motion. Uh, let's take a roll call vote on that, too. >> Dovy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes.
>> Price, >> no. >> Pessie, >> no. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Sen, >> uh, yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> And Wright,
>> no. >> Okay, motion passes. And Mr. Um, what's his last name? >> Morganti. >> Morganti. >> Morgante >> is now our building sub. >> Very good. >> Thank you. Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> We'll have comments at the end also. So, um, now we'll get into committee chair reports. >> So, we'll start with Mr. Wright. >> Nothing right now. I mean, we got
football practice going on as we speak, but other than that, nope. >> All right. Thank you, Mr. Timbers. >> Uh, nothing. >> Okay. Uh, Mr. S. >> No, I'm good. Thank you.
>> Is Mr. Ortiz here yet or he's not coming? >> He's not coming. >> I'm coming. Um, >> Miss Hassie, >> nothing for either. Miss, >> nothing. >> Mr. Galloway,
>> I got a few things. Um, preserving the harvest um is uh going to be delayed until July 11th at 10:00 a.m. at city hall. Uh I wanted to thank Jerry for his time as arborist. He did a fabulous job.
We didn't always agree, but we always worked things out to the betterment of the city. So, I really appreciate all your help and expertise. >> Thank you. Um there was some confusion over deadlines for the submission of the arborous
proposal and we there were two dates put out there. We received responses on for two separate dates. So, we think that to be fair to the biders and hopefully find uh additional bids that we should re uh
advertise and accept bids on I think it was 10:00 a.m. July 15th. So, um I guess that should be does that have to be in the form of a motion? >> We only need a resolution to reject. >> Okay. So, um, I make that resolution to
reject the, uh, bids and readvertise. >> So, there's a motion. Is there a second? >> Second. Questions on the motion? >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> opposed.
Okay. So, >> um, I just wanted to, you know, I'm sure everybody's aware of this, but, um, severe drought, and I wanted to ask the public to be, uh, mindful of if they had a new tree in the last couple years to
make sure that it's uh, watered. Some of them are starting to get a little brown and the leaves are dropping. So, they need water. That's basically what it is. And to also be very careful for the Fourth of July with fireworks. Uh could
very easily start a fire if uh because it's it's just so dry out there. The ground's ready to crack. Um, and I wanted to remind the residents of A Harbor City, if they're listening, that they are required by ordinance to
remove the um, trash and recycling containers from the terraces. Uh, some some alleys are really difficult to get down because these buckets are in the middle of of the road. So, please put them back on your property 5T from the U
pavement. Um, the newsletter should go out on the 1st. So, if anybody has any information for the newsletter, please get it to me by the weekend so I could work on it over the weekend. And I congratulations to the fire department on their spiffy new
ladder 10. That's it. >> Can I add something to Nette? >> We do have uh the tree bags, Nette, that we got when we got the first round of trees. wants those, they can city hall, put
their name and address and I'd be happy to deliver it to them. >> That's great. Thank you. I I didn't know where they were, but >> Where are they? >> Well, they were in the old water treatment plant and then I believe I moved them to public works. I'll have to check. We have a box
>> a box of them. Yeah. Okay, great. I need a donuts shaped one. So, >> yeah, we have a lot of donuts. They're not too popular. I just have a comment for Miss Galloway. >> The trees might be suffering of all the trees out there, but two that you put in
front of my house, it's growing like a weed. And >> they're beautiful. >> It's getting bigger and bigger. My house is going to be covered soon. So, >> yeah, they're beautiful. >> Yeah. >> And we found out those trees are on the invasive species list, so we can't plant any more of them. >> They're the nicest trees ever.
>> I know. And I just wanted to let you know, Nette, that all my events are posted on Facebook. >> Okay. >> Questions, let me know. >> Nette, what are they? >> What are they? >> What are they? >> The Zelovas.
>> Elovas. Thank you. >> Okay. Um, Mr. Dovy. >> I really don't have any um report other than it's been very busy. the uh limited staff in public works have done a terrific job over the last several
weeks. Uh a a number of things have been accomplished and I want to thank everyone who's been involved in that. The u there are four resolutions on tonight's agenda that are public works or um related. Um one is the uh grant
application uh for the municipal aid paving from the state. Number 15 uh of course there's a a change order which is not any significance of supplemental work and
reduction number 16 for the Buffalo Avenue uh paving. And we also have the uh resolution authorizing hiring through JPM um a uh threemonth uh temporary
public works uh supervisor director and there's also authorizing Remington and Vernie to um design services for the I bank u improvements uh for storm
That's it. >> Great. Thank you, Mr. Tony. I just have one thing I want to say. Um, I had a situation this week where a resident or an out of town resident called and complained about something that happened to him at the lake uh when he was
checking in and uh I called the guy Dora. The guy called me and uh told me the whole story. I contacted the mayor and asked her how we should handle it. She forwarded it to Renault and I have to tell you the response that we got
from Renault and how they handled the situation was fantastic. They u they were professional, they were detailed and they solved it. uh where the person that had come to the lake and had the
problem actually invited the two people that run the lake now to come and have dinner with them at their picnic table that they rented. So, uh they handled it very well and it was uh it was a nice thing to see. So, you know, we've we've
had issues, you know, with the whole campground thing and all that, but Renault is a great partner and I think it's going to be a good thing going forward with with the campground and the lake. So, all right, that's all I have. Um, go to
the chief of police. >> Hello, everyone. Um, >> where tree? >> What's that? >> Where's your palm tree? All right. Um, >> she looks relaxed though.
>> Yeah. Well, front porch life is great. So, um, so, uh, I was not at the last meeting. I believe the mayor gave the report. So, since then, um, we've had quite a few officers in different trainings, some mandatory, actually all of them
mandatory. Um, so we had one officer do a finding words refresher course. Finding words is a specific course that is required anytime you interview a child 12 years old or under. Um it's specifically so that
there is no there are no leading questions or any kind of uh interference with the children. So we had one officer go to that. We have one officer go to a twoweek crash 2 course. Um it that is an intensive course that requires uh lots
of math skills. Um uh so that we can appropriately investigate crashes, legal updates. Every year we are required by the attorney general to go to legal updates. Two officers went to the actual class um presented by the Atlanta County
prosecutors. everyone else will have access to that and the PowerPoint presentation on our power DMS system um which is an in-house uh document system that we can put out to everybody. Uh,
another mandated unfunded mandate that we have to do is what is called an active killer training, which is basically an active shooter training. The Atlanta Atlantic County Prosecutor's Office put on um, from what I'm hearing from all of the officers and throughout the county. An incredible training at
the Fusion Church in Egg Harbor Township. Very real realistic, very intense. Um, so 10 of our officers went through that. We had one officer go through a crisis negotiation training that is a monthly thing. We had two officers that had to
be Alcatest reertified. So, we've had lots of training this month um or the last few weeks actually just two weeks. I spent the last few days at the annual conference for the New Jersey State uh Association of Chiefs of Police. got some very good information from a
retired chief from Ferguson, Missouri, who was there when um dealing with the ramifications of the George Floyd killings in Minneapolis, completely different city, but Ferguson went wild.
Um and then also a prosecutor who was a prosecutor for the city of Minneapolis during the George Floyd um issue. So, lots of great information that the police department is getting. Some numbers for you from the last few
weeks. We've had four burglaries, one fraud case, 10 thefts, lots of shopliftings. Um, we seem to have somebody new in town who is stealing stuff from folks. We have a good handle on that and a lead on who that is, so hopefully that will be rectified very
shortly. Six motor vehicle accidents, 17 traffic stops. Only three summones issued. Again, we've had lots of officers in training, so um we're running on minimums for those days. We've had seven arrests, five business alarms, two residential alarms, 56
crimerevention activities, one criminal initiative call, 10 domestics, 22 EMS incidents, four follow-up calls, 577 property checks, and 11 public service calls. That's about all I have for you.
Um any questions, concerns? >> Excuse me. What's a property check? >> So, basically what we do is we go and we look at the places. So, a property check of the lake. As we drive through the lake, make sure nobody's doing donuts in the parking lot. Make sure nobody's
trying to get into the uh the bathrooms or the um concession stands. So, we will go and do property checks at various locations. um Harbor Plaza, so where Inolingos is making sure that nobody's trying to get into different places doing any kind of
damage. So, yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. >> I did have a question. Um what are you expecting from the ebike uh regulations? Well, we just got some more information
from the Attorney General's office along with information from the uh New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission. Um, we're going through that. There has not been very much guidance with that. Um, I
have had issues with folks saying that insurance companies will not cover them. So now that you need to have a license and to have registration, you can't register your ebikes without insurance. So those are issues that
we're running with. Um we are very different than the shore towns that you typically cover in terms of what the issues are with our ebikes. Many of our ebike riders are using it because they cannot afford to have a vehicle and need to get to some places of employment. So,
it had been a uh a an affordable and a reasonable way to get to someplace to get um to employment, whereas the shore towns, it's more recreational. So, um we uh as a chief's association for Atlantic
County are talking about how we address these things in our various ways. Um I'll call it like it is. I see it as a money grab by the state um for registration and insurance to register these and it is uh
marginalizing folks who are already marginalized. Um however, we will go ahead and utilize what we have in terms of the ordinances with title or um the title 39 stuff that we already have in place to go ahead and
enforce what we can. >> Okay. Thank you. Anybody else for the chief? Okay. There was one thing that I forgot to bring up uh under my report was um also to do with the lake. I got a call
about a month or so ago from the people running it with Renault that they had a woman that was wanting to rent the pavilion for Fourth of July. and Christopher, the guy there, noticed that
there's a plaque at the bottom of the flag pole in front of the pavilion on the pavilion side. And it says there's a time capsule uh underneath that plaque that is to be opened 50 years from when it was placed, which would be July 4th.
It was placed in 1976, so it should be opened July 4th, 2026. So he said he wouldn't rent the pavilion if there was a plan to open that time
capsule. So, I took it upon myself and I called some people I knew from the Masons and the Knights of Columbus who did that and uh they were not fully aware of the fact that there was a time capsule there uh because 50 years a lot
of the members that put it in are gone and um however they did say that they were going to start a conversation between what's left in the Knights of Columbus who merged with Maze Landing I believe and the Masons who are still
very active uh to put together some kind of program. Uh it won't happen on the 4th of July, but it will happen and uh they're going to work together to try to come up with a plan that will include the city. You know, we'll be part of it
and uh open that time capsule sometime hopefully in the summer where uh we can uh give people a lot of notice to come out and look if they're interested. Uh I did hear uh yesterday or today that uh there were some residents that wanted to
take it upon themselves to go in and dig it up and open it on the 4th of July. And uh we want to put the word out that that is city property. And we are working with the organizations that put it there and uh who built the
pavilion uh after the old pavilion burnt down. And um hopefully those two organizations will come up with a nice plan to uh have an event there where uh it can be opened properly and everyone
can be notified prior to it. So I ask anybody that has an inkling to go out there and dig it up and try to open it not to do that. And Chief, if you would keep an eye on it somehow, uh that would be appreciated.
Uh Joe Johnny Rup also reached out to me about that. Apparently his father was the one that cemented the time capsule. So I think >> they'll never get it out then. >> I think they're going to collaborate in there pretty hard to dig up.
>> Yeah. I think they're going to collaborate with the American Legion or something to try to figure it out. >> That'd be good. Yeah. So >> be nice to do some kind of a party fundraiser there where those organizations could, you know, sell tickets, maybe raise some funds for
their groups. Be nice. >> Okay. I just wanted to put that out there. Um >> um Mayor, uh Council President Kener, so um yes, we will continue to keep an eye. I did see the post out there about the uh about the time capsule. Um I was out
at the lake and did have an opportunity to speak with um the two managers, Chrissy and Chris. Um they did express the same thing that you had talked about with the specific uh complaint that they got. Um I too have
gotten feedback that folks are very happy with what's going on out at the lake. So, and I, as the police chief, have been very happy that our calls for service so far, although it's only been a few days where
the lake has been open full-time. Um, we have had very few calls for service, if any, um, out there. So, that that's a positive thing. Um, so I think it's a good thing that we are partnering with Renault. Um, one final thing that I
would like to say is that, um, Jerry, I believe this is your last council meeting. Um, so, uh, I wish you well with whatever >> Thank you, Marcela. Thank you, Chief, very much. >> Um, but yeah, so, um, I'm still waiting for you to cut that one tree down, but
>> Yes, I know. >> But, um, >> do the cutting. So, >> it's I'm waiting for him to cut this tree down. >> But, um, but >> Nanette already said we don't agree all the time. She and I. So, there's there's
one of those, but we'll u we'll take a look at it before I leave. >> I've got a chainsaw. Um but uh just busting chops. Best of luck to you. >> Thank you so much. >> That's all I have, Council President. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh number nine, CFO.
>> I don't have anything. Um Jerry, just want to wish you good luck and it has um been nice working with you. >> Same here. Thank you, Jody. Number 10, city clerk report. >> Uh, I have nothing. >> Okay. Number 11, city attorney.
>> I have nothing. Thanks. >> Okay. And our favorite person in engineering, Brian McGowan. >> I mean, I mean, only, but >> yeah, >> I appreciate the fever, too. >> Yeah. >> Um, okay. So, uh, I'll go through. We
got uh preliminary notice from DCA that they're going to allow the funds uh that were originally intended for the path around the lake to be reallocated to the bathrooms and concession stand. Um I I just got a notice from uh Franco from Triad I a couple hours ago. So she said
there's still some direction that we need from DCA for exactly uh how that's going to work out, but we at least got a preliminary indication. So that's a good start. Um we're still working to get the bathroom uh out to bid for that. Uh the utility upgrades, uh we're working on
bid documents to be able to bid that out now to install that in the fall. The electrical was awarded, so that'll be starting in the fall. Uh our city hall improvements are unfortunately a little behind schedule as we can all tell sitting on Zoom. Um we had some issues with the railing and the way the railing lays out on that deis. Um so I'm still
trying to work through that. They're making progress on the bathrooms. Uh I understand they got the service counter windows in. Uh I believe that was today or yesterday. So, I haven't been there to see them yet, but I know they're they're making progress there. So, the bathrooms, what's how things look so
far, Jackie? >> They look nice. Yeah, very nice. >> Good initial report. Um, so your active stuff would be uh the IBank Storm project. We got our concurrence from IBank. So, we are locked in. I believe we closed on the loan yesterday. Um, so
that means you're locked in with the FY26 money and we can go after the FY27 money to do another $3 million of of storm replacement for this upcoming year. Uh, so we'll be put in a proposal for that uh for next month's meeting so we could start it as soon as possible. Um, I would have done it for this meeting, but I don't think technically
we didn't start until after July 1st. So uh, we kind of had to wait for that to happen. Um, Dwig Street, we're still waiting on approval from DOT. Um, I think I covered last meeting we had some correspondent to DOT. Apparently there was a mixup on their end. So, they're trying to sort that out. Uh, the senior
center ad improvements, we're expecting to have plans and specs to go to DCA uh in July for their review and hopefully approval so we can get that bid and get that work started. Um, camp from Braymond to Antworp and Burger from Buffalo to Cincinnati. Uh, the design for that is almost complete. It's
actually on my desk for review. So, I'm hoping to wrap that up and we expect to send that to uh DOT for approval to bid uh in July. Um, the Kreck field work, we were moving along. We went to do soil borings uh and found um with Gary's help
that there was a lot of um electrical and sprinkler lines in an area we were planning on potentially doing some underground drainage. So I need to meet with him out there and try to >> pick out an area that we think could work sort of between the the nest of stuff that's out there already. Um so I
got to schedule that with him. Uh the brownfields redevelopment areas, as the mayor noted earlier, we the city received another $500,000 for brownfield investigation work. So that's that's a big win. Um that just helps you understand what you have and you know remove some impediments to uh getting those properties back into productive
reuse. Um the 2026 uh I bank planning and design grant, we also got confirmation on that. That's the $2 million. Uh getting again getting locked into FY26 funding was a big a big deal because you're eligible for another $2 million next year. Um so we'll we'll
regroup with the committee and and prove it out if we have another project that would be eligible for that. Um and then uh yeah, last thing I had was the the FY27 clean water money. Um so we're going to target additional replacements uh I would think will be Burger Street and a little bit more on Agro Street. Uh
just direct replacements is um kind of what we have to target because the timeline won't really permit us to go out and get permits um for full reconstructions. So that will be what we address in the planning and design funding with $2 million in actual design. You can go through the permitting processes and uh get all that
And then hopefully in 2028, uh, we'll be able to use the FY28 funds to actually construct the stuff that we deserved as part of this initial round. Um, only one other update. The county sent out a letter uh to all the uh to the city, to
other stakeholders uh that they're getting ready to start their paving project on Philadelphia Avenue. I think it said in the winter of 26. Um, so presumably like November or so, they'll start construction. We'll probably pave it in the spring. Uh so that that lines up with what we had been told
preliminarily, but uh it was good to get confirmation in writing that they're still on track there. >> So that's >> Yeah. Well, that's Yeah, I think they were talking about awarding a contract in September, which would lead them to start construction probably, you know, a few months after that. >> Okay.
>> So, do you think that'll be this year or >> um I I think they'll start some of the work this year. I don't know that they'll do the paving this year. It's going to depend on the weather. >> Okay. Okay. Because I was concerned about the uh striping of the road and um we're going to have to pass ordinances
to put the EV charging station in. I don't know if they're aware of that. >> Yeah, I believe we were in communication with them about that uh a while ago. They're >> Sorry. Um >> Oh, we lost you.
>> Yeah, that Yeah. Um, sorry. We were uh we have the they're doing some of the EV charging stations, I believe, over at the transit station and then the ones that we had on Philadelphia Avenue, we had communicated with um the county at least preliminarily. I don't know if
agreements got finalized or not. So, we'll have to pick that back up and make sure. I I believe most of the work that we were doing was behind the curb line. So, I don't know that the repaving would have a significant impact, but we want to make sure >> we have to stripe the the road and put
the, you know, symbols in for EVs and uh we'll also have to pass an ordinance that you can't park there unless you're charging your vehicle, >> right? You have to designate them. I believe it's green striping that goes down to accommodate up, but they should be aware of that. So, we don't want to
have them to come back a second time and do it. So, >> yeah. the BPU to give us the money to do it because I don't know what the hell happened, but that was two years ago. >> Yeah, it seems to be in a state of limbo at the moment, but it would be nice to to get it moved forward and get it to
the finish line. >> Ryan, I had uh two two questions. >> Uh one, I well, first I wanted to say thank you. The sidewalk is in on Beetho um yeah, Beethoven Avenue and um Boston
over there by the Moravian Church. It looks great. And the other thing I wanted to ask you in that same area on Beethoven Avenue, um it would be there there's wire, black wire, and it has been hanging there for the longest time
and it's on the north side of the street. Um would that be cable on the north side of the street? Do you know? >> So, there's a couple of possibilities. Um if it's been hanging for any period of time, it's not Atlantic Electric because they have to fix it immediately.
It's probably either Verizon with their um their old like terrestrial landline service, the copper wiring or Comcast um with their service. >> So, it's it's possible it's Yeah, it's either of them would be wrapped in like a a black um coating, but it it's hard
without getting eyes on it's hard to know which one it would be. >> Um >> so, but if I mean, next time I'm in town, I can I can get out and take a look and notify the property utility company. Yeah, because it's it's been there for quite some time now and it's there's quite a bit of it. I mean, it's in, you know, in circles.
>> Well, yeah, a lot of times they'll leave like a coil somewhere so that they have the ability to extend it later and sometimes those come undone and then you end up with just a giant mess hanging down. So, maybe that's possibility >> probably. Thank you. >> Sure.
>> Anything else, Ryan? >> Unless anybody else has any other questions. >> Anybody else? All right, seeing none, we'll go to number 13. It's a resolution acknowledging and approving the completion and submitt of an application
to the New Jersey EDA for the award of the HDSRF grant in the amount of $120,143 for Mosville Road Landfill SI and RI. Um, >> motion motion. >> Second. Motion.
>> Okay. Motion has been made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? Roll call, please. >> Doy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist, >> yes. >> Pessie, >> yes.
>> Gener, >> yes. >> Sen, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> And right. >> Okay. Right. >> Mr. Right. >> He's playing football.
>> Resolution passes. >> Yeah, you can just mark it as a statute. >> All right. Uh resolution number 14 uh on the agenda authorizing the use of the Internal Revenue Service Standard
Business Min. >> I make a motion. >> Second. Motion has been made and seconded. Questions? What is the rate? Do you know, Jody? >> Hold on. Let me Sorry. Let me I don't have the resolution in front. Jackie, do
you have that? >> At 72.5 cents per mile. >> Okay. Thanks, Jackie. >> Welcome. >> Thank you. >> No, >> yes. >> Galloway. >> Yes. >> Heist.
>> Yes. Pessie, >> yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Sen, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> And Mr. Wright, >> yes. >> Okay. Resolution passes. Number 15.
Resolution authorizing Remington and Bernick to submit a grant application and execute a grant contract with the New Jersey DOT for the fiscal year 2027 municipal aid. So move. >> Second.
>> Motion has been made and seconded. Is there questions? Roll call, please. >> Dovy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist, >> yes. >> Pessie, >> yes. >> Kenir,
>> yes. >> Sen, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> And Wright, >> yes. That resolution passes 16. Resolution change order number one, NJ dot fiscal
year 2024, reconstruction of Buffalo Avenue supplemental work and reduction. Reduction sounds like a good word. >> Yeah, it's a lot. >> It's actually a zero zero dollar change order, I believe. Right. >> Okay. >> Is there Is there a motion?
>> Make a motion. >> All right. Motion has been made and seconded. Questions on the motion? Roll call, please. >> Doy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist.
>> Miss, >> yes. >> Pessie, >> yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Sen, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> And Wright, >> yes. >> Resolution passes. Number 17 is a
resolution to renew the EMS agreement with Galloway Township EMS for four years. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I second that. >> Motion has been made and seconded. Is there questions?
>> Just have one question. What What was it this past year? I see what it is the the this year and the other year. >> 5% more than what it was. So it's always been 5% prior like 25. >> Yes, >> pretty much. >> Okay.
>> Okay. Roll call, please. >> Yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist, >> yes. >> Pessie, >> yes. >> Kener, >> yes. >> Sen, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> And Wright,
>> yes. Resolution passes. Number 18, resolution to refund 2026 second quarter property taxes due to a 100% disabled veteran status case
2026-04 for $1,54526. >> I'll make the motion. >> Second. >> Motion has been made and seconded. Questions? Roll call? Oh, no. Yeah, roll call. Dovy,
>> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Pessie, >> yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Sen, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Emrite, >> yes.
>> Resolution passes. Number 19, resolution authorizing the refund of a $150 tree removal permit fee. >> Motion. Second. >> Motion made and seconded. Questions?
Roll call, please. >> Doy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist, >> yes. >> Pessie, >> yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Sen, >> yes.
>> Members, >> yes. >> And right, >> Mr. Wright. Resolution, >> Mr. Wright. >> Okay, resolution passes. Um,
number 20 is a resolution for Plenary Retail Consumption Licenses. Joe Daz Beverage LLC, uh, Jinaros, that that's who that is. NAFA Incorporated, Harbor Diner,
and so are these liquor licenses? >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> I have a page to Yeah, that's it. So, those two. Is there a motion? >> Make the motion. >> Second.
>> Motion has been made and seconded. >> I guess we need a roll call this >> Doby. >> Yes. Galloway. >> Yes. >> Heist. Heist. >> Heist.
>> Yes. >> Essie. >> Yes. >> Kenir. >> Yes. >> Sen. >> Yes. >> Timbers. >> Yes. >> Emry. >> Yes. >> Okay. That resolution passes. Number 21
is resolution authorizing a one-year extension of an inactive plenary retail consumption license set to expire on August 1st, 2026 pursuant to that statute.
>> Make the motion. >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded. Uh, roll call, please. >> I just have one question. Didn't Didn't we already vote on this in May 21st, 26?
We renewed it. >> Um the city clerk is going to explain to you. >> Um yes, we did renew it. That was the regular renewal, but um the state passed new uh regulations, the ABC shall I say, that licenses that have not been active
in a certain amount of time would expire. They never had that before. And um there's really no guidance because it's new. So the state said if you can prove or if the the own the lency can prove that they're actively trying to
market the license sell it um you can pass a resolution to extend it for a year. So they did prove they sent me a realer agreement that they have been actively trying to sell the license. >> Okay. to did you say to did did they say
to whom who they might be actively trying to sell? >> No, I said it's listed with a realtor and they're actively trying to sell the license. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Um, do we need a roll call on that? Jackie, >> no.
>> All in favor? >> I >> Okay, eyes have it. Number 22, resolution authorizing an agreement with the Jersey Professional Management for Temporary Acting Public Works Director.
>> I'll make that motion. >> Second. >> Motion has been made and seconded. Are there questions on the motion? >> Seeing none, roll call. >> I have a question. >> Okay. >> No, I have a question.
>> Go ahead. Go ahead. Sorry, I'm out here. It takes a little bit longer for me to my voice to get all the way into you guys. Um, $95 an hour for a temporary employee. I don't believe any of our city employees
make that much money. And who decided to hire this person? Was this taken to committee prior to this being decided? because it was on the agenda yesterday or the day before and public works met last night.
>> So, I'm a little confused at the process if we're a committee run. >> This has been going on for a while. This process has been going on for a while with the committee. >> Well, I know I got an email from the man asking to speak to me. I told him when I was available and I never heard from him
again. I don't know why. I don't know if if that's a party thing. I am not sure. But no one I told him when I was available. Never heard from him. So I didn't even have a say in what we what we needed. However, that's you know what
not the main thing. I'm just Where did the $95 come from? That's just totally blows my mind. >> Mr. Dovy, you want to explain? >> Well, this is that's not how much. First of all, he's not going to be a
direct employee. We're hiring uh the uh Jersey Professional Management and they are providing this this gentleman for three months. Um for those hours outlined in in the resolution and
the explanation of of of that uh we are in a in a bind. uh we outlined uh basically Jerry's gone at the end of the month and uh we will not have anybody in place with the
u necessary u requirements and certifications and professional um standing unless we have somebody in place. So when we met with uh Jersey Professional Management a couple months ago in the
pursuit of a replacement for administrator, one of the issues we brought up was um that we would be u a short a a public works supervisor and u and um they
indicated he indicated that they would he would provide somebody. he would attempt to provide somebody. And about a week and a half ago, uh the we we met via Zoom with this gentleman and he has
all the experience necessary. >> He's not looking. >> Pardon? >> You say we I'm asking who is we? the finance committee because it was a part of the larger
discussion of of the of the business administrator position and um we recommended it but we were waiting for uh the actual um contract or proposal which we just got a couple days ago and
it was put in the and that's when I scheduled a public works committee meeting um and I did meet last night um with um Mason first and then Joe uh around the fire truck arrival and went
over uh the details. >> But where did the N I'm the $95 come from? Is part of that going to him and part of this is going to this um company who's supplying him? >> So he's not pocketing $95. >> So what is his hourly rate?
We don't know. We're hi We're not hiring him. We're hiring JPM and this is the person that's going to do the work for the first for three months. >> So we're paying JPM $95 to supply this person and we have no idea how much
they're paying this person. >> No, >> it is in a nutshell. >> It's not a it is an allin number for the $95. So, um, we don't have to pay any benefits or any kind of, uh, vacations,
holidays, any of that that would go into someone's salary. So, if you, if for example, you hire somebody for $60,000 to do a job and the benefit package on top of that is probably somewhere between 35 and 40%.
You're talking, >> but we're hiring him for three days a week, so he would not receive a benefit package. So that doesn't even come into the mid of this. He's not hired full-time. Hired between 18 and 25 hours a week. Therefore, he wouldn't be entitled to a benefit package.
>> Well, he's we still they still have to pay his social security disability and all the New Jersey state taxes, okay, which adds up. And I don't know the exact number, but maybe Jody does. >> And this is not an apples to apples
comparison when you look at it that way. So, u we have a person for three months. We're able to see how this person works, how they uh interact with our employees and how they handle the job. And it's a
three month test pretty much. And at the end of three months, we have options. And one of the options is we can continue to work with JPM with this person being their employee working for us at a reduced rate, not at the $95.
That's a starting three-month program just to get to know this guy, see how he operates, see what his his abilities are. And then we can either continue at a negotiated rate later uh through JPM
or we can talk to this gentleman uh about coming to work for us and negotiating his salary at that point. Uh or we could say, "Hey, this isn't working out. Have a good life." You
know, move on. And then we we go in a different direction. So it's >> I think the other Joe the other important point is is we are still have not interviewed candidates um for the uh
administrator position. So one of those candidates may have public works experience and we may not need a public works uh supervisor much like where the situation we had with Jerry. So >> personally that didn't that didn't work
last time. So personally I don't even that think that should be on the books because that didn't work last time Jerry to do both positions. Where's Jerry now? >> It didn't work. >> I don't think I I I don't think the reasons Jerry is moving on or resigned
has anything to do with his ability or a person's ability to manage both positions. So >> that's correct. >> That's that's very that's true. That's very true. >> I So, >> and Jerry, please don't take it wrong. I didn't say you didn't have the ability to do it. I said it didn't work because
you are now moving on. >> They were my words. I didn't say you didn't have the ability. >> It wasn't related. >> Never know what's going to happen tomorrow. It's like that's life. Things change. We have a opening there. We need somebody in there. We got to do this.
And uh I I have experience with this company JPM. They pay a lot more in other towns, like $130 an hour. So, I think uh we just we just need to bite the bullet and do this so that we can
continue uh sweeping the streets and taking care of stuff we got to take care of. >> So, in September, are we going to re-evaluate this? >> Is it going to go to the committee or is it going to finance or is it going to
public works? I mean, I would think it should be public works and then go to finance. >> That could that could be >> well decision to do it is going to be a collective decision between finance because it's going to relate to
who and when we get an administrator or if we get an administrator um in in the next few months. So, it's going to relate to that that this is to get us literally through the summer with
somebody with supervisory experience position knows this. This gentleman has extensive experience in running public works departments at the municipal level here in South Jersey. Large large and
and less than large. Um, he knows what to do. He knows how to manage people and he he is aware of the size of our and and the responsibilities of our uh public works department. He's he's actually ideal
>> except you never know anybody who's ideal until it it it plays out um as you do with every new hire. But on paper and in personality and in the brief time we
had to meet him. Uh he fits the bill. Um we cannot go into the summer without adequate supervision of the public works department. >> I I agree with you there. I just want to make sure that we go back and
re-evaluate this and see what we're paying them. And that's why I thought public works should have the first say whether he's working or not and whether things are getting done and specific >> the public works
>> will have that. >> And did the public works members of the public works committee review his um his >> resume? >> Absolutely not. >> Yes. I did not.
>> So, Mason, you didn't get it yesterday. >> No, I mean, we talked for five minutes about it about that. But, like I said, I'm I'm still on the board about like I don't know how we're going to hire somebody that we never met. Like, I don't get that. Like, it just does not make no sense to me. Like, how we're
just going to have some company say, "Oh yeah, this guy fits you. We're hire him for 3 months." We don't even know what this guy I mean, did anybody interview this guy? Did anybody talk to this guy? Does anybody know any background on this guy? I mean, I don't know. >> Well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I
think you missed the the beginning of the conversation. Yes, there was a formal interview with the finance committee and Rick, >> I heard that, but I'm saying, but he was never >> Excuse me. Excuse me. Rick happens to be on the
>> um >> you were you are the only member of the public works department that didn't participate in the interview. it happened during the day when you're unavailable. Um, as I said last night, I will give you I will give you an
opportunity uh you will have the opportunity to meet him soon if this uh resolution if this agreement is approved before >> and that's one of the issues council all
meetings are done during the day. So if you're there's a reason for that older, you don't get to come to the meetings because you're not retired yet. >> That's a bunch of BS in my opinion. >> Everybody got to talk because a job going out to work to support his family.
You can shake your head all you want, Rick, but that's the way it works. >> That's the way it works. >> Every public works, every public works interview for the last ones were all done at night. Now all of a sudden they gota be done in the afternoon. >> No, not all of a sudden. the last nine years that I've been on council commit
things went to committee before they went to council all of a sudden there's three four people making all the decisions and it's not going to committee and people need to be aware of that this is a town run by committees by a council of nine not by a council of
three or four people and that's all I have to say and I will be voting no >> okay Any other questions? Okay, we have a we have a motion. Did we Did we get a motion on that? >> I made the motion.
>> Okay, so we have the discussion. We need roll call, please. >> Doy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist, >> no. >> Pessie, >> yes. Kenir,
>> yes. >> Sen, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> And right. >> Only reason I'm inviting no is because I never met the guy. I can't hire somebody that I've never met. Sorry. >> What's the vote,
>> Jackie? >> Oh, I'm sorry. It passed. >> Okay. >> It's um >> two, two, three, four, five. Two nos. Six. chesses. >> Okay. Okay, that passes. Number 23, resolution authorizing to enter into a
contract with Remington and Bernick engineers for planning and design services for a Carver City High Bank storm water improvements. As writing, >> I'll make that motion. >> Second. >> Second. >> Motion has been made and seconded.
Questions? >> Roll call, please. >> Dovy, >> yes. Galloway. >> Yes. >> Heist. Heist. >> Sorry, I couldn't unmute. Yes. >> Hessie, >> yes.
>> Kenir, >> yes. >> Sen, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> And Wright, >> yes. >> Okay, resolution passes. Number 24, resolution authorizing the A Carver City
Land Use Board to conduct a preliminary investigation to determine whether block 101, lot one, block 609, lots 1 and 7, block 632, lots 1 and 16, block 705,
lots 1, 7.02, 8.02, 16, 27.02, and 28.02 02 or any part thereof qualifies for designation as an area in need of redevelopment without condemnation
pursuant to NJSA 4812-86 >> motion >> well where where physically are we talking >> we have a motion seconded go ahead Scott >> so physically where where are we talking here
>> just below So the industrial park. >> Okay. >> It's the old land. It's lots around the industrial park >> in between the industrial park and hers. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I can give you a little
>> So this is this is the extension of um the landfill redevelopment uh for the property that uh that Jeff D is working on that the committee that council's already authorized. there's additional lots um that were incorporated. So, the
original resolution or the original ordinance had to be amended. A resolution had to be amended to include the additional lots. >> Okay. Very well. Any other questions? Okay. Um roll call. Right. >> Dovy.
>> Yes. >> Galloway. >> Yes. >> Heist. >> Yes. Jack, you got to look up so you can shake my head. >> Okay. Essie, >> yes. >> Kener, >> yes. >> Sen, >> yes.
>> Timbers, >> yes. >> I'm right. >> Yes. >> Resolution passes. Number 25 is the bill list. Motion to pay the bills. >> Make a motion. >> Second.
>> Motion has been made and seconded. Questions on the bills. >> Roll call. >> Dovy. >> Yes. >> Galloway. >> Yes. >> Heist. >> Yes. >> Cessy. >> Yes.
>> Kenir, >> yes. >> Sen, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Emrite, >> yes. >> Those are paid. Number 26, public comment. Is there anyone in the public
wish to be heard? Anyone in the public wish to be heard? >> Hi. Yes, I me. >> Okay, please state your name. >> Hi, my name is Yes. My name is Riann Clark and I'm actually from Millville, New Jersey and I'm on the call tonight
uh because I am a member of Sustain SJ and we among other things are interested in responsible land development and I wanted to just have a conversation tonight if I could. I had a couple questions for you guys. I wanted to know um I've been on the website. I've seen
that you guys I've read through all of the project outlines on the uh uh excuse me the economic development uh project profiles and so I wanted to know if there has been any interest or application put through by any uh tech
companies in regards to any data center development. >> No, there has not. No. >> Okay. Um, and then I was just wondering if >> just so you know, we don't have the land mass for something like that here.
>> Great. Um, so would it be uh would would there be someone that I could send to uh an email to with some example ordinances banning data center development um as well as uh moratoriums if you weren't looking to do something quite as final?
We're actually um we've been discussing the idea of sending th this idea of what you're talking about to our land use board for their consideration and getting their feedback before we do any
any ordinance or resolution to moratorum. >> So that's that's been advised to >> Sure. Could I would you guys be interested in reading some example ordinances and moratoriums? >> We we have one from Gowi Township that
we're looking at. Thanks. >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You from which township? >> Goway township. >> Sorrying community. Yeah. If I can just make a suggestion, the uh ordinance passed in Millville was a very
comprehensive uh well-written ordinance and uh Hamilton Township um Maze Landing has a great example of a temporary moratorum if you wanted to put something in place while you guys kind of work through the issue that would kind of
field off uh any potential legal threat of anything you do being retaliatory. if an application were to come in while you guys kind of work through the issue. >> Yeah, we're familiar with the uh with the Hamilton Township one as well. >> We're looking.
>> Excellent. Thank you. >> Great. Thank you so much. I will continue to follow along with the land use the land use board as well. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. Anyone else wish to be heard? >> Hi. Yes. Um my name is Raone Mora Jr.
Um, I am a violent resident. I care about what's happening with my neighbors and I'm also running for Congress. And I say that because I'm here at this town council session right now because people have brought up concerns that projects unfolding in Egg Harbor uh city,
particularly around the redevelopment um projects might become future data center projects. Um, >> the data centers, >> these lots are tiny. These lots are tiny. There's no data center coming to Egg Harbor City. I hate to tell you that
>> you have a lot of you have a lot of issues with data centers in in Egg Harbor City. One is they don't have the land mass. Two is most of the property that they do have is wetlands um and wetlands restricted and then on top of that you also have uh pine lands u
pineands restrictions. So the we are studying the issue. Um we are um going to have the uh land use board take a look at it. um uh to make sure that our master plan um is compliant
um with with all the regulations which would and and above that but I think practically speaking I think as um the council president stated earlier um the practicality of of something that happened in Egg Harbor Township is is very very limited but we are reviewing
the issue we understand the concerns of the public. >> Yeah. So I I understand I used to drive through and around um at Carver City a lot when I went to work at Atlanticare. Um so I know like the space is tight. Um these data center uh AI data center
projects they will take any space that they can possibly get to um help build out their infrastructure. So with that, you know, I would implore you to get ahead of the situation before the situation comes barging through your streets in any capacity. Um, you do not
want this type of uh facility in your town, even if it is a small one. Um, it is, uh, facilitating the promotion of job loss in South Jersey. Um, in Carese Point, not a, you know, not a very big town themselves. Um, they are having a
lot of job loss related to AI powered robotics. Um, so, and that's over in Carese Point, you know, that's not too far from us. um and well from you guys in uh Egg Harbor City. Um the environmental implications as I'm sure you guys are aware of um with the whole
violin controversy um should be alarming enough but if not you just have to think about like you know supporting any type of uh infrastructure for these AI data centers even if it is a small um scale one is going to cause a massive unemployment crisis in our area as a
whole. Right? So I would urge you guys to act expeditiously in implementing either a moratorum as you said you're aware of or a ban to prevent what is happening over at Monroe. Um that way you know it doesn't affect you guys and your residents and in the most densely
populated state in America. We really don't need these type of facilities here. Um and it would give you know something something like this would give your planning board and your zoning board your land use board um more teeth
should an application come in. They have more um grounding to reject the application uh without any type of prejudice. So, um, that's pretty much >> So, ultimately though,
it's the council of this city that will decide whether or not one of these things comes in here. Correct. It's up to us, right? I mean, >> Google can't come in and declare that they're going to build a data center,
right? So, I see what you're saying though to have something preemptive in place so that when it is rejected, you can have all your dots, you know, dotted, your tees crossed,
there's something there before. I I I don't know the ins and the outs of that, but I can't say that that sounds like a bad idea, you know. >> Okay. Um, so what is a bad idea though is an application coming through your residents not really wanting it and um
and then you guys try to implement something after the fact. Um, that's what >> that's my point. I I I think I appreciate what you're saying. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look, we we we understand the issue and I'm actively working on uh documents to put in front
of the board that that they'll have a chance to consider, but we we are also mindful of, for example, hospital systems have uh what you would consider a data center inside the hospital system for document storage facilities. So, we we we don't want to be reactionary and
do something that would hurt uh that would hurt development that the city would like to see. So, we're working through different resolutions and different ordinances and different ways to to protect the residents and protect the and protect the city from
a use that wouldn't necessarily be wanted, but mindful that um a lot of the ordinances and a lot of the resolutions that I've read are very sloppy and and put together not in uh not in a good way, which would if read technically
would ban, for example, a hospital or a doctor's office from opening up with with a data center, a law office, for example, um with server rooms, which would be considered a data center. So, we we we we hear you. Um we heard the other lady as well. I can tell you that we are actively working on this um and
we're we're being mindful and how we craft it so to meet all the objectives and the goals. >> And I I appreciate that, Christopher. Um I was actually at the maze landing uh council meeting when they were talking about that same point for their moratorum. Um just to push back on that a little bit there is a clear
distinction between data center and AI data centers. Um, furthermore, every even if you have a ban on the books, um, every business technically has the legal right to come to uh, city council, the
planning board, and ask for a variance, at which point uh, you could go ahead and grant that variance for regular data centers as well. I just wanted to make sure that you knew that there was an absolute distinction between the AI data centers that are affecting and people
are um you know rallying against and data centers that nobody really has had a problem with up to uh this point. Um so there is there is >> we appreciate you coming on and voicing your opinion. Thank you. >> Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you so much for your time.
>> Thanks ma'am. Yep. >> Anyone else wish to be heard? Seeing none, we will go to the mayor for a final com. >> Um, I don't really have anything to add other than what I already said, but I did want to clear be clear. I think I
switched the playground location. The playground with the shade structure is definitely Buffalo Avenue Kaboom playground. But everybody enjoy your holiday. >> Thank you. Okay. Um,
Mr. Right. >> He's not on. >> I got nothing. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Timbers. Uh, >> I just want to wish everyone a happy fourth. >> Thank you.
And Mr. said, >> "Yeah, just happy 4th everyone. I'll be in West Virginia on a motorcycle ride, so uh I'll be thinking about all of you um while I'm taking in the beautiful state of West Virginia." So, >> be safe out there. All right.
>> Yeah. Hey, my my >> Don't worry about me. >> I I ride as if I I assume I'm invisible. >> Yeah. >> So, that's the I'll be okay. Thank you. Happy fourth. >> All right. Thank you, Miss Hessie. Mrs. Hassie,
>> uh, for all of you who will not be in West Virginia and be in Egg Harbor City, uh, I hear there they will be ringing ringing the bell 13 times for our 13 colonies. Is this correct? And I I'm not sure what time it was. Was it 3?
>> It's Kim, it's Hold on. >> 3:50 or 3:5? >> 2:30. 2 o'clock. I forget. >> I can't hear you, Lisa. You're you're muted. >> Two. Can you hear me now? >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> 250 p.m. for the 250 years. >> Okay. >> And the church, we have three uh three churches, I believe, maybe four in the fire department that's going to participate. And certainly the residents are able to participate if they'd like.
If you have a bell at home, you want to go out and ring it. So, it's 13 times at 250 on the 4th of July. >> Okay. Thanks. >> And happy 4th of July to everyone. >> Solid. Thanks. >> Thank you, Mrs. Heist.
>> Just happy 4th of July to everyone. Enjoy your holiday and be safe. >> Thank you, Mrs. Galloway. >> Same. Happy 4th. >> Mr. Dovy. Um h happy fourth to everyone.
Um I also want to thank Jerry for his service over the last year and a half. Appreciate it. A lot of things were accomplished. I wish you the best in the future and um we'll we'll meet up again I'm sure. >> Thank you. >> Uh there there is a upcoming meeting
uh it's during the day Monday with the ACA. their com their collection contracts with the city uh for yard waste collection, trash collection, and recycling. There are three separate contracts are up at the
end of August. At their request, they have uh they want to meet with the uh finance committee and Jody on on Monday. So, at I think it's 1:00 we're meeting at city hall and they're going to go
over their proposed contract going forward. >> The 29th this 29th >> 29th >> time >> 29th one. >> So, anybody who wants to make it, they're welcome to come, but we can't
have more than three. Four. We can have four. Okay. Anything else? Anything else, Rick? >> No, that's it. >> Okay. Thank you. Um I'm the one left. I
have to say that it I haven't made it um a secret that I was a supporter of Jerry uh and his time with us and that the things that he's done with us over the last year and a half. Uh, I think we've
made a lot of progress in a lot of areas >> and I remember from day one at the highway garage when we walked in there and uh we had a a snowstorm bearing down on us and uh Jerry went right to work
and u I appreciated that back then and I've appreciated a lot of the things that he's done since then and uh I for one am going to miss you Jerry. I thank you for the time that you've been here. >> Thank you. >> And I wish you all the best
>> in what you do in the future. >> I'll be back. You know, you know about the D stuff, so I'll be back. >> Good. Good. And And can I just chime into Thank you, Jerry. Um the few times that I've called on you uh for things I've noticed around town,
especially that tree removal out of the stream on uh Burger Street. Um anyway, thank you and uh best of luck to you. Okay, >> thank you. >> I would also I would also like to say something Joe if that's all right
>> thank you. It was nice working with you and yes got a lot done in code >> and thank you for everything that you did up until we had to stop. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay, Jerry, >> is there any comments you have? Uh >> no. I I'll send the final email to
staff. Uh I I and and I'll copy all of council. Yeah. >> Well, again, appreciate you know your time here and wish you the best. >> Yep. Thank you very much. Thanks. >> Is there a motion to return? >> Motion. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Second.
>> All in favor? >> I >> opposed. Eyes have it. >> Okay. >> We are journ. >> Good night everyone. >> Good night. >> Good night. >> Good night. Lettering.