--------- everybody way I usually do it and most of you know I just kind of go line by line i usually like to start with the revenues if you have questions feel free to interrupt after me whatever um explain um let me just open and then
this does right now have a zero um tax increase um my notes in case Yeah just so everyone page four is really like the first like actual revenue page of the budget um so surplus anticipated we kind of have sort of uh
we've been using a little over 200 as kind of like our sort of normal recurring amount that we sort of always hope to regenerate and just kind of use as our base and then anything in additional to that is kind of used to offset like oneshot type things um so in this one I believe the
additional is um capital improvement fund we didn't find anything basically capital or one shot type things it was for some grant matches it's the last year of our police car leaves and um yeah the grant
matches the small cities and the MPP have um a grant matches so this should be the last Well we'll see what happens with MPPP it's the last year of the MPP program if we wind up going what was that other grant that Karen was looking at um well I had um try out if the city
has to apply okay but I don't know i don't It's like not really a grant but is that the main street yeah guess no something else it's called neighborhood preservation but it's not called brain for
anyway some of that stuff may come you know we would need it that's why there's a difference from last year where you had some other capital one shot type things right um no major changes well the biggest change is obviously the interest on investments obviously from selling
the water treatment plant we have quite a large amount um so that number could be higher it could be um but I kind of maxed a lot of the revenues to keep the tax rate lower on here so I wouldn't want to personally go too much higher because obviously the
rates have already gone down a little bit from last year um the only reason I was kind of comfortable like doing that is because I think the Canada's revenues will be higher this just to back up for a second when you put in a revenue on the budget the state only allows you to put in a maximum of what you've received
in cash the year before the only time they let you put something additional in is if it's already happened and you have the money before you're adopting the budget or if you let's say we raised rates for something and we did an ordinance and we have like I could do a calculation to show why we would be
expecting a much different revenue number you can do a certification to the state but typically the basic rules whatever you got last year is the most you can do this year what kind what kind of interest rate are we getting on the investment so right now I think right now our bank's giving
us four new Jersey Cash Management i have to look again because theirs was around the same thing a while ago I looked to see did it make sense to try to issue notes or something like that because the rates but the bank was giving us such a good rate by the time we would have paid the professionals the rate really wasn't any
better so I'm like it's better to just have the money um sitting there so we we did really well last year because they gave us a really good rate and where is that money that's at Ocean First okay and like I said I I'm going to look and see if it makes sense to move some of that to um cash man new Jersey has a
cash management we have an account there from many years ago but now we just kind of keep a small little thing that just from having the account for so long is that broken up into like some CDs and things like that or is it just cash
management yeah just Yeah it's just in their bond deal and you can transfer and wire and like move money around pretty easily and it's a flat rate interest yeah you can call any day and like find out what the current rate is i don't think it's guaranteed for any like 9 time or anything like that
um so that's the biggest change on that page could you go up to licenses you have alcoholic beverage and then other is that cannabis other is pretty much any kind of license that the clerk's office takes in and the um some of the
uh like planning and zoning fees um OTC's i think there's a couple small things in the building department and a few things in the clerk's office that does include categoric property or just some of the um it's the parking lot class it's the
library it's the bungalow like a few small things they're coming up for renewal next year in the 20 in 26 the leases okay so we should look at them what's leases for uh the library and
with the county um late fees went up a lot i think we had raised the fees so we bumped up that revenue came from a little bit Just going back to that rental that that I just talked about that you mentioned to me a while
back you think it really low what we charge oh we are so we should be looking at that pretty close we didn't hear what you said down here that it's pretty low what we charge them that that could be jumped up a little bit the county for the
library okay page five is state aid that is staying the same the municipal relief funds was like a one time thing that the state actually gave in 2023 but we didn't have it budgeted in 23 came out after that so it was actually
something budgeted in 24 it was just a one time thing but we don't get any transitional aid no lose any aid from the state or anything no that municipal relief aid was like a oneshot thing for all the like the statewide it wasn't like just us or
anything like that it was like a special I guess thing that broken up by population yeah I guess I'm honestly not 100% sure but it was like a one time thing it wasn't thing but all the the regular stated the
energy receeded a little bit more based on last year's receipts you check those off a lot yeah i mean we actually had a one really um property listed somebody was not I
think we're not considered a really big had a really big permit there was a really large receipt last month hopefully that should be good to reach that higher um sheet nine is just grants so that
will fluctuate from year to year um anything that we adopt during the year that we do a chapter 159 gets put in back as if we had it in 2024's budget so some of those grants were not known at the time of the budget they're added later and if we find out any additional
by the time of the budget I'll put them in here but that wouldn't shouldn't change any numbers tax- wise the only time on the revenues the only time a budget uh grant really affects the budget is if there's a local match because then obviously you have to raise
tax for your you have an appropriation but not a revenue sheet 10 are like some of our local revenue um so for right now this has 150,000 of the utility surplus we have quite a bit of utility surplus from selling the
water treatment plant so even if we just do a little bit to the point of selling the water treatment plant for council was that there was tax relief and helping so if we take a little bit this should still last many many years to be able to you know provide some of that relief so that's why that 150 is in
there um fire safety act that went up a little bit steve's been a little bit more proactive of trying to get you know make sure all the inspections every all the fees all the permits are done so that went out rental inspections about
the same now this pilot number this is I it's fine we'll hit that number this year i just want to point out this is our basically almost since council rescended that we used to um we used to have an abatement for residential we
don't have anymore um so this is basically the last year almost every property is at that 80% i think we'll have one left next year so that number will have to be made up next year it's just not recurring um cemetery contribution but it'll go
right to regular taxes then right yeah but unfortunately I as much as it does go like they'll be paying their full taxes it still kind of like creates a hole in the budget the way like New Jersey budgets are done it's not like all of a sudden that's like there and you have like this that number just plugged right into your tax levy like
the way the calculations work it's like yes they are still paying taxes but it it doesn't see this number you can't see that yeah exactly the way it's all spread out so it's not like people are paying any less it's just the way it kind of flows into the budget it just sort of creates should fall out not do
we anticipate anybody building homes we don't have that abatement anymore so do we anticipate we're in discussions with developers i don't know if it'll happen this year but try make that happen well we're
hoping the movie studio will start building we're supposed to sell soon to them so he would still if we if we had a if he was applying for a only only if the council gives him one yeah yeah but he I mean he could follow they said no other
attorney told me no she said no it's up to city council to give them that's what I um I want to say residential like a nonousing I don't know commercial yeah when they did the ordinance it was redevelopment you could
still get a some type of abatement but uh residential you could not that you know when they when they did the ordinance well I I was always told previously and Joe you probably remember this that if you sell if you have a
commercial property we auto they automatically get a five-year um something or as they should but in the in the recent past they have to apply for it in the recent past I was told that the council decides what they
want to give them so I don't know which one's correct is your order in Atlantic City it's up to the the uh the assessor the assessor controls that one which is now the state this guy from CSG CSG John Lloyd he
decides but um our code in Atlantic City says it's the accessory so whatever the code here it could be the assessor and they break it down for like if you were doing some type of rehabilitation or new construction what kind of percentage
from the assessment could come on but that's not going to affect us and then Canada's tax that went up a little bit obviously based on last year and that was only really for two quarters were that could come so that number so that's why I was saying I
thought a little bit more comfortable with the interest even if it goes down a little bit because I think that that Canada number will hopefully be a lot higher yeah um the first quarter for so far was about was like something that is
most of that or other yeah we have one right now we have two that pay that just the public works cut the grass public remember because that's where most of that money went to
she wasn't in there last year is the receipts from delinquent tax um and then is that maybe there's some kind of limit any questions on how much is left in
surf after this you you had 487 last year you regenerated the whole thing and now we're going to use 338 discussion i wish we could get started that's not one balance i wonder
how much that cost but they're breaking ground next week oh wow end of the year we have over million in surplus so the 7 million11 is what we're looking for in the other side of our budget
balance yes yeah at least in the numbers like it's hard to look at like the budget you look at last year like 8 million but that includes grants we had like $2 million of grants last year so if you look at that um total section F kind of like
middle top that 2,75,000 in column 24 that's grants we've got 2 million in grants as you can see right now we're only at 240 for this year so that would Well you said that could add in as the year
so on appropriations um page 12 is the first page that the big exchange would be obviously adding an administrator so putting that in that's already in here yes that is on
sheet 12 for right now and what's the other 2,00 I just created like an like line item in case like there would be something that would need to come out of that office on that department i don't think you know to cover supplies or
whatever brand name for them um sheet 13 everything's pretty much the same everything's pretty much the same um last year we had put in for a part-time code official so that same
figure is basically in here um 15 nothing drastically different so I might have printed out my What number do you guys have for police salaries and wages there
retail okay a little bit higher we have for the first time I think since I've been here we have an appropriation cap issue which basically the state only 15 basically the state allows you to
increase your there are certain expenditures they consider within a cap they call and then some the only things that are really outside anymore are capital debt service um maybe like deferred charges like things that's
really fairly You can make a difference um so you're only allowed to increase those things this year the state has a set amount that they come out with each year this year's is 2 and a.5% you can do a coal ordinance which we always do to increase it up to three and a half%
um how much is our how much is that million 552 over 470 right what that would allow for typically that's correct so that allows for an
increase of about the normal 2 and a half% is 150,000 plus um you could do an additional 1% from the whole ordinance which is 61 um and then you can bank from previous years if you don't use it you can bank it that increases
5.6% 5.5 yeah so we have quite a large increase this year from the police contracts going up just in general everything is costing more money so um we do have some bank to use we'd still
be about 70,000 over so I was talking to the audendes the state allows you to move outside the cap if they're if they know like for some reason that really went up like health benefits you can do a calculation to figure out what health benefits went out so you can do one for
health benefits actually you know what i'm going to move more money to health benefit i had moved some money so basically what I did was I put more money in your garbage collection is one of the ones that you're allowed to have an exception for so I was moving more money to garbage and out of some of the
other line items and then the year just transfer you can't transfer till November so it just has to be one of the line items that are larger that can handle having some of that taken out until the end of the year but health benefits is also one that I didn't need to increase that as much so actually we could do that without it really being
like so we don't have to do anything special yeah it's just makes it's just one of those things that we just need to be careful because this could happen again next year so like we just have to but hopefully we're not hopefully expenses will start to stabilize and it won't be that bad but I was like oh my
god this is the first year I've ever had a cap accepted i'm like so do you have what are the options like we've never ever had this problem we usually have like tons of bank we have tons of whatever and I was like this is really like an unusual situation it's also I think because we absorb some of the expenditures from the water treatment
plant now last year we applied that I don't know if anyone remembers but we did a local finance board application to allow to do a cap like adjustment but that's only one time so that's kind of like it helped but not enough so do we have to do any ordinance or anything for this uh we'll do a whole ordinance like
we normally do the cost of living to have that bank just and to allow us to use it but um we shouldn't need to do anything because normally the only other way to get over an appropriation gap is to do a referendum i'm like we do not want to do a referendum and also like the auditor made a good point he's like first of all the really small amount you
don't want to have to go to a referendum like spend all that money and he said if it got denied not only do you not get the extra 1% you have to go back to the lowest like what the original state amount is so you'd really like if it didn't get approved be and I think at
this time in the history of our country we probably wouldn't have a good turnout for the referee uh question on the police communications uh is that a a set schedule with Hamilton Township on the
increase it's like a 4.9% increase yeah we have um our contract i'd have to look and see what the percentage is so they have that planned out from the long was like two years ago and honestly as you can see last year's was really that probably wouldn't isn't
totally even really either i'd probably wind up being the transfer a little bit towards the end of the year but I didn't I already had increased it so and we like got so I just kind of wanted I didn't want to make it so it did cost that 250 yeah court it looks like dispatch goes through 26
did we have to pay something to somebody i actually think is going to have to give us money this year i think we had over I know so nice little bonus like without putting that in the budget so I'd rather just like be a
miscellaneous unanticipated revenue i thought Hannah was doing it for free we have I think our minimum as long as our minimum with our agreement is 40,000 if we don't make 40,000 in fines we pay the difference which was last year 6,000
this year we had over we split anything over 40 so we'll get whatever was which actually yeah they allow you to share the service they're allowed to that's excluded from the catar service but that's on their
end not on our end because I guess they have and all like it's only expenses yeah actual expenses to me so you can reduce your Yeah
she's saying share oh yes i don't know how I Where is the Where do you have it where we pass but it's not fully pass what do we pay them we don't it's it they get collect all
the fines all throughout the year if they reach a total of 40,000 in fines we don't do anything so that's why last year was 6,000 we only they only made like 34,000 in fines from us from like what they collected so you're saying this could be revenue yeah so this year
it looks like as of the end of the year 45,000 in the in fines they collected so we might get it's better than knowing so that's right really 15 so a decrease in the salary since the
majority of the salary would go if assuming Jerry will go as administrator and less in the um salaries and also not replacing um so that went down a little bit um polllet and solid waste they are up
anyway and then they also move some frontal lease salaries there for that cap um exception now that we're leasing the vehicles is the maintenance is it go going to go down at all that includes a lease payment so that's why like it actually
we're kind of I'm really hoping after this year we're like getting to the that good spot with Enterprise like once we get rid of some of these older vehicles and it's really my fault because I'm just like so hesitant to like really like jump all in so we've been like doing it so slowly that we're kind of spending more and not
really reaping those benefits yet but hopefully once we're getting rid of all the old vehicles we'll start being able to have that turnover and have that equity be able to put back but yeah hopefully the unfortunately also we hadn't raised you know the last time we did the rate went up also so a bit you
know you're doing you're not having as much but he hadn't raised his rates the whole entire time we had them either so long as um it's really just like ongoing i mean the lease is like you sign a lease for
vehicle so you know for that term but can I ask you something as far as the code the old vehicle So we used to sell them yes i really I that's on my like shortterm to-do list is to get all those old vehicles up there's nothing wrong with the code
vehicle and I don't think we should sell it honestly rich said it runs great and it's a crown Vic it'll run forever in case you need a vehicle 350,000 miles is it Is it expensive to maintain
it's not worth it's probably worth maybe 3,000 total how much maybe about 3,000 total lucky so with the insurance on it and everything else do you think if he's driving that yeah we would be i like
having three vehicles now we have three people we need another vehicle i mean well we're gonna try not to have him in on the same day but yeah that's not a bad idea but I think it's not bad buddy i think I did i did and then something winds up going and we like try
to decide you know like I was just trying to get us to that point where we were wondering the light just a tiny bit what was that 15 B 15 no changes on 15
Jody that lining at Karnsfield that's that's crazy stuff there i think they line it now we've had that for like 18 years that I know of yeah we 25 things that have been since like literally I started silly i guess some things I could ask the aud take out yeah
because um I can tell you right now you're not getting lime for that too for $25 anymore i can tell you that it's like $10 a bag and you get lucky if you get because it's that cushion that we need for
the extra there you go because really it could all like if even if you needed to do something you would just take it out of parks and put it like you don't need a separate so I could take that out um group insurance there's another um it did go up a little bit more there's
sheet 20 is the outside so it's part of the expenditure so I think they I'm sorry what was the annivers parade all the little like events okay uh Christmas lights things like
that um the fireman insurance we had um someone that's not on medic there that went on and so that's why there was kind of a large increase this year um we're going to talk about that okay
um yeah not to make the I was just saying we need like a little bit more uniform that agreement was done back in 95 and doesn't really follow how our insurance works anymore so just trying to make it so it just follows like how like our actual insurance works now
um liability workers comp just went on 2% so that's the same uh waiverss and for anybody that um waves the health insurance they cannot have um their other coverage in state health benefits to get that we actually have a decent amount of people that wave it um a
couple of them are getting it through like a spouse that's in state health benefits so they don't get the waiver and that is a state rule not our rule i mean personally I actually don't think it's fair if you're not taking our coverage no matter where you get it from you should be in you're saving the city a lot of money that money goes to the
state no goes to them yes it goes to the employee for not taking the insurance oh it does only a percentage though it's not what actually it's a flat amount 2500 and it's not what they're
call max I think from the states 5,000 but our limit in our mag is 500 right so you're a we're able to change it even though the state says 5,000 even the most you could do it was 500 you don't
have to give that's the max you're allowed Atlantic City stopped doing it in 2016 oh really no oh so you don't have to do it's it's in the contract it's a negotiated item in the contract so when you do a contract you can negotiate if you wave state health
benefits how much the payout is you can go from zero to 5,000 as a negotiated item as when you negotiate a contact contract with state health benefits so you guys get Yeah that's part of the negotiation
employees could just take it to take it and you know what I mean like they're saving a lot of you know really saving a lot of money so giving someone figuring what you pay per person for benefits and you're only giving them $2500 you know no I wish I got it but
they but no you're absolutely right they could turn around and say well just just for spite I'll take the interest it's nice to give someone an incentive they're really saving you a very significant amount of money right now doesn't sound like a It's been eight years for me that I didn't get it so
eight times five right yeah right exactly and I know a lot of people who have the double state health benefits like when my husband worked for ACUA and I worked for the school he made more money than I did so we took I took the benefits because it's a percentage of
what I was making paid for our family as opposed to a percentage of what he was making so he waved the benefits i got the benefits so we paid a lot less for the same amount of coverage so I just don't think it's fair of the state to say that if your other coverage
is state health like why do they why do they care where you're getting drug coming from and your spouse works somewhere private you could get it but because your spouse works at let's say another state health benefits like you're still seeing your employ but you can't have horizon and horizon you're having the same you know yeah i'm not
you know not my whatever just my just my um there was a time it was history what happened here years ago with the benefits from we're just talking about just that city
employee right um she's 17 street lighting go up lights i honestly I think I think they charge you now to fix the lights well we if you look at like what we
really spend less just between the two we do like a spreadsheet to kind of keep track of electric versus street light and street lights are flat rate they're not by usage because I have a street light in my yard yeah i have a straight light in my yard
and it's a flat rate on how many hours are night that it's on and how many hours it's off where my house it's what's on my meter so nothing major thanks Jar call my husband and tell me tell him I was right about
something you are right put it on the record you are right about that so with the daylight savings you'll notice a difference winter service and when I moved in I paid $7 a month for my street and now I pay we
negotiated what our rate was as well and our water usage too right yeah your commercial was there a moratorum on having it how long i think it was three years originally 10 i think it got changed or five five maybe yeah because
the BPU wouldn't allow it that's why why would they make it because they thought we were getting too much any sense that's why I think it was a municipality versus a private company to have a better better deal uh sheet
19 the um pension contributions of giving from the state hers down a tiny bit um the police and fire went up a decent amount so that was about 60,000 and that's based on the increases they
got it's based on their salary yeah it's based on prior years you know I guess that's based on salaries um having DCP there won't be in a pension he would be in DCP so there would be an employer contribution that would be required
which I have to double check that number might need to just change slightly but that might be okay for um like a prrated portion of this year you put 3% 3% burning i didn't do it all like the total for the year because originally when Lisa and I first she and
I put it in there so I only 3% not so it might it might take a little bit because it wouldn't be the whole year anyway so it should it shouldn't be drastically different um G20 is just things that are outside the cap recycling tax
appropriation when we pay um probably explain this better than me but you pay a tax on every ton that's um for solid waste so we get that back not get that but we get certification we reallocate that goes to the state and then state
gives it back a portion of it in the recycling grant yeah so but basically we take a portion of what we charge to solid waste and reallocate it to this line item once I find out from ACU what that amount is
is that like their grant they give you money back is that what that's saying that's the amount of the tax that we made that year but normally as we're paying it each time like every time we pay ACUA it just goes against solid waste line item and then at the end of the year ACUA sends us a certification
saying this amount was actually cycling tax which is allowed to be outside the cap so I basically reallocate what got charged to solid waste to this line item so kind of silly why the state makes you like do that but it's like a weird
landfills or transfer stations collect the money for the state it's a part of your bill when you dispose goes to the state then two years later they send some of it back to the on the tonnage
recycling tonnage but that's this number in here okay um that group insurance and solid waste are just the considered the outside path portion those don't get counted in that calculation of that percentage that I was explaining
[Music] earlier and that starts the grants again and that would basically be a match of what you saw on the revenue side the only differences are any matches so you'll see the um NP
match there and the small cities match there and the local reproation actually which we didn't get notification we got that grant but I figured let me just put it in the budget for now so we don't have to come up with it later I'm sorry which one that local
recreation grant so the money we're paying out of MPs is from last Uh no from this year it's really this year's grant i just had put it at the end of last year so we could award when we did the um arch grant the arch project we're using a portion of the
year five grant to fund like a little bit that the MPP grant the arch grant didn't cover so we had to put it in last year's budget so we could um have enough money like sitting out there for to award the project okay but it really is this year yeah it's really
this year's year by a grant that's why the match is in this year because we didn't really need the full amount i just needed to have enough to be able to award that contract okay um sheet 26 this is just um usually we kind of just do a flat amount under
capital improvement fund um and that just moves money over to the general capital funding if we want to do a project and we need a down payment we'll have we have money that builds up in there and then if there's any capital projects that you want to fund directly in the budget rather than
doing a bond or you can put them in this is that another fund that you're putting 25,000 in but there's more money in there how how much there's not very much in there because over the years Last you know what last year we put the money and we used that um last year we
did um a resolution to authorize the engineers to do that preliminary work for that storm water that's where most of that went there was we authorized 45,000 so those um that emergency authorization on sheet 28 when we did the
um it's still actually being worked on plan update it um you could spread that out that cost over five years i think we have the share I think in next year I think is the last year for that I'm pretty sure and we need to get an update from him on
that yeah it seems like even though we've like raised a lot of that actually the actual project I think is still um the transfer to board of education the state comes up with that amount it is basically when they come up with whatever they need in their tax levy
that portion comes off the tax levy that go on the tax like that we raise as part of the tax levy raise it through the budget this way i don't know why it's just one of those again weird things the state makes you do it this way
uh 28 it's that transfer board of ed like towards the bottom that's a number given out by the city 189 the specialist emergency appropriations that was the um master plan update we raised one of it over five
years and how much have we paid for towards that already she said 30 i I think I think next year's our last year to raise 10,000 if we were to get I mean if the finance committee were able to um approve it and everything the toters it would be the
same sort of thing over um fiveyear period yeah but that wouldn't be charged as a capital expense it would go into your but your ACUA same concept though what's that same concept that it would be spread over
five years okay that's not fair right i guess I was originally thinking like could you do that at like a capital so I guess you really do that just an expense so we definitely might not want to depending on what we decide because
that garbage exception that we have you can only do that one year I think so you wouldn't be able to have a garbage exception next year if we did that if we did that next year or something you wouldn't be planning that you're talking about because we're in we're in the dark down here oh
Ingred knows it was just we were talking about it in code and to get to we're just talking about it in code that you know we might want to get to but we have to you know put in front of finance and everything i have no idea
yes don't order me one they'll steal it [Music] thanks Korean because they stole it they have the um the little chips in them now too so you had them stolen that had chips no but who's going to go chase
the trash can and look for the chip i'm not I'm not either maybe it's yours number so big she 29 reserve for taxes which one she 29 the second from the
bottom the reserve for unclected taxes that's just a calculation based on tax collection rate i kept that the same as last year and believe it or not we have a very high like I think it went up again this year
99% it's amazing there's that 7 million11 matches well they say what's what's a harbor city's budget for this year 711 I got to run to the
um we don't have any tax levy policing that appropriation cap the state also has that 2% tax levy we are buying that so this is no tax i waited for three years for us for the county
oh yeah yeah yeah yeah pause this and then we'll come back at seven Part: 2
this is the March 27th 2025 meeting of V Harbor City Council like to call this meeting to order it's been properly advertised and posted in accordance with the public law 75 chapter 231
roll call please mayor Jetti here clark here dash here doy here galloway here heist here pessie here here timber here right here
number four on our agenda is a mayor's presentation thanks recognize good stuff that happens today and it's even more special when it happens in our schools most of you know one of the greatest schools we have
great teachers great administrators and I'm so proud of our school we've come a long way to ach when when was the high school there 200 2010 but when was it when was it the
high school barbara City till 1960 no air conditioning okay no except walk up so we've come a long way we have beautiful middle school we have a beautiful elementary school and I'm so proud of all of you who work so hard to
make our community successful and it really does mean a lot so tonight I've asked the basketball team to come they won the um both boys and girls won the Cape Atlantic Junior High School
basketball championship now the boys have a record of the Mace winning a lot right when my son went to school his his class won so you guys have real however
this is the first year that the girls team won so it's appropriate history months are going to get called up first and you guys are trailblazers you're setting this example
or you girls that you say are setting the example for future um students to achieve so congratulations thank you for your hard work and thank you for making me a partner city so with that said I'm going
to call up the names and if they're not here that's fine we'll give it to um Dr forester take i would like to interview no she's not but I have Somerset here she's girls basketball coach
so Miss Connley is the director she's not here this evening so all right so when you come up just try to maybe come around this way or this way and stand over here so we can get you on the camera and stay up here maybe over there we're going to get a picture of
everybody so we'll start with the girls teamman come on smile a little bit gotta get her in the camera at least congratulations Mayor you want to line them up in front of us so everybody can see them on camera
come line up in front of council that way you can be seen on the Girls come right just stand right in front of us we don't care if they see us they see us all the time yeah they see it they don't want to see us right there in front of us there you
go there you go don't be painful [Music] okay Williams five power with the girls girls squeeze in here so they don't see us now because I want to be in your
picture [Music] i think they're going to win the division because the same They still have the best staff stay there for your coaches shelter or chickens they should
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won the home opener seven to three 181 more to go we'll resume our meeting uh number five on the agenda is to approve the minutes of March 13 second motion motion made and seconded all in
favor i opposed motion passes okay is uh number six public comment uh does anybody have any comments about any agenda items excluding the item listed for
public hearing is there will be a public hearing this is on agenda items yes okay there's no public i'm not sure which number it was no he's he's public comment for agenda i said excluded got it so number 14 so just as a question are
are we allowed to talk about who we're appointing yet or that you share the mayor has uh told us that she appointed Jerry Barbario as our administrator so then it would be up to city council because uh the ordinance or the the law
for a Carver City is it's a mayor's appointment with the advice and consent of city council okay so number 14 would actually do that okay and in that term it looks like he's going to take over public works and administrator being
he's the administrator of the city and he's also going to do what he's been doing since you left so what can help out there the only thing I I would like to bring up and point out is last year when uh I guess then council president Richie bought up
to uh council about the code enforcement guy who was going to come in and take over uh I guess it was like licensing zoning construction online council and I agreed pushed back and said we don't want to put all our eggs in one basket right so it seems like we're sort of
going backwards and doing that here by empowering one person here or two or three departments whatever i mean that's a big job that he's filling the shoes so I'm not sure how he's going to do that in a at a 40hour period one of the
other fair question um one of the other things that we're doing is hiring another person in code uh and Jerry's job would be if if approved tonight to uh oversee that department uh so he's got a lot of experience doing it in
other towns and that was one of the reasons the mayor picked him to be that in that position i've only met Jerry once or twice i think we met at a tree uh uh program down in Atlantic City i haven't had many conversations with him and I don't know so I don't know his
history but I just my concern is that we're going to enter into a contract for multiple um positions and what happens if one of them is not met do you we reserve the right to pull back and you maybe assign a public works actually there's an agreement circulating that has a
provision in there that if we as council feel that it's not working out we have an out for the contract and so does Jerry yeah and please take no disrespect my my thing is I know with our previous administrator a long time ago without knowing the names we're stuck in a
contract with that person yeah no that wouldn't happen here that was discussed and um we made sure that was in the contract and I think Jerry wanted that too so and part of the job of an administrator is to oversee day-to-day operations in city hall so it's not an
extra job pertaining to admin an administrator that is an administrator job oh no i understand that but so it's not like you know what I'm saying it's that's his day-to-day operation job so is it like a divided time wise or it's
he's in city hall and that's what he does it'll be up to him to decide on how much he spends in which department that's as needed um there's no actual set hours at this point so it's you know
especially in the beginning it's going to be a lot of hours and you know Jerry seems to be very willing to do that i mean my thing is going back a couple meetings ago Jerry expressed that he could possibly be gone soon that you guys were going to appoint the superintendent and um one of the things
he said was that it was because they needed constant supervision so with this role here as administrator where's the constant supervision come from well he's one of the things he's doing now is part-time i understand so he's not here
every day in this new position he would be and he would be here every day and oversee as the mayor said all the operations well I've been for an administrator in this town for a long time i just don't think it this is Keith's opinion for
what it's worth right you guys ultimately make the decisions but for for what it's worth I don't see a dual role being the situation here especially from a gentleman that served his time out there and said that that department needs 100% provision all the time i
agree with him there um so just my thoughts okay and fair enough and and like we said if it doesn't work out we know and we'll have constant contact and we'll we'll know right away if it's not working
thank you thank you anyone else who said that i did that okay okay um so with that being said thank you
Keith um we're going to move that up uh on the agenda so uh mayor do you have a comment before we we're going to move up number 14 sure to do that now um so the city's been out without an an administrator for
12 years 12 long years okay basically the girls the employees at city hall Jody Meg and myself and I'm not here every day i work from home basically um or mayor stuff we have
taken up a lot of extra work and right now we have a lot going on in a harbor we have a building coming up um at the movie studio soon we have millions of dollars literally in grants that have to be
administrated and other things uh other issues um and I think this is the time I I'm not certainly going to be mayor forever um I'm of course I'm starting my fourth term but and I think it's a good
a very good thing for the city to start to depend on an administrator and not employees and the mayor to do day-to-day operations and other things that um have to be you know taken care of at city hall so for my sanity you know I think
it's a good thing and I know Meg and Jackie will be very happy to share some responsibilities that were dumped on them and even city council they took extra responsibility also they interview employees sometimes they have to discipline employees and in my opinion
that's a lot for a city council person to do um I don't believe that they're fully comfortable with it i could be wrong but I know I'm not comfortable with doing things like that and that's where it would be deferred to an administrator with the council committee
so so that said um we were fortunate to have Jerry um decide that he wanted to change where he works and he fell right into our lap um not very long ago i
think we talked to him on Friday so this is kind of a rush rush situation to get it done because he does have to give a month notice to where he works now so uh Jerry comes with so many credentials I don't even know where to start but he
knows a lot about the public works he did public works and administration in Hamilton the same position that he's going to be doing here he already has done that in Hamilton he was an administrator in New York City or New York and he was he's also
currently an administrator up north in Anglewood anglewood i always get that wrong so there's other things um Jerry's been our arborist for uh all last year he works for the city as an arborist um
he's been doing public works since January I believe so he's already employed in the city and what we have seen him do i think everybody's happy with that's sitting on council i don't think we have any complaints um he's very I can tell you he's very knowledgeable about things
that you know I I can't even I can't even I don't even know how he knows all about this stuff but um he was out snow plowing you know with the snow and there's just so much so many things he can do and I just think it's the best thing for Egg Harbor City and I would
like to appoint um Jerry Barbario as the administrator okay uh so we're going to call in number 14 resolution to appoint city administrator slash superintendent of public works motion is there a motion
second second discussion that's discussion on the motion go ahead all right i apologize it could be a little bit long i'm going refer to my notes um I believe this proposed appointment is a result of another backdoor deal where Mr barbar is being
slid into multiple positions without going through proper committees i'm not against the hiring of a city administrator if it'll save taxpayers money and nothing here is a a personal reflection on Mr barbaria december 31st I received an email that Mr barbarian agreed to take a part-time
director of public parks job until we could hire someone full-time january 2nd Mr barbarian was appointed as the part-time interim director of public parks neither public works committee nor finance redevelopment committees were involved in that decision making to hire him
prior to that meeting both Republican chairs of those committees and all Republican committee members were excluded from that secret meeting or any of the details in just prior to that meeting in which he was to be hired these facts were admitted at the reorganization meeting and are part of
public record february 27th Mr barbaria was appointed as a right to know officer even though at the time he was only supposed to be employed by a cover city for another month or so when I questioned why a part-time temporary employee was being made right to know officer I was told that it was only
temporary and that position would end when his employment ended in the very near future during February and early March the public works committee met several times and interviewed applicants mr barbario had a very active role in that process and his input was very
helpful in choosing the best candidates after a second round of interviews we chose an applicant to offer the job to do with a second and third should the first one not take their position apparently that offer was never made march 19th I emailed the committee chair
and I asked what the hiring status was and was told by Councilman Dovy that he had to discuss it with finance committee even though we already knew a rate that we were offering the applicant march 24th I had a message that council president Kenir wanted to discuss something with me we spoke the next
evening and I was informed that we were hiring Jerry Barbario as city administrator director of public works and code enforcement supervisor that was the first time I'd even heard of us hiring a city administrator so I asked why it was not advertised i was informed
that it was an appointed position by the mayor subject to council approval i was also told that there were already enough votes to pass it we discussed the fact that councilman Dovi never notified me as vice chair of public works committee that he was not following the decision made by the public works committee when
we voted unanimously to hire someone else council President Kenir and I spoke at length and I was clear that I believe that it was not right how this was being handled i asked for a copy of any contract prior to the council meeting so we had time to review it and he he
agreed once it was finished being written march 25th I received a call from Mayor Jim Penny explaining why she thought this was a good idea and we we discussed how these secret meetings are not right her financial numbers differ from council president Kiner's number
significantly i stated the city would save about $14,000 a year significantly lower than what I was told by councilman or council president Kenir saving money is very important but so is due diligence when hiring such an important position this is not the way overseas
should be run i pushed for transparency when I was first elected and I believe we came a long way i believe now we're heading in the wrong direction how is it that I as vice chair of public works was the last person to know about us not hiring who we all
voted for and now we're making it part-time side job for a city administrator that also has to supervise code enforcement how is it that we are not replacing the public works employee that that left recently how can we go from a full-time director of public works to a part-time director with less
employees how can we be a negotiation for shared services but some of us are not allowed to know any of the details how could every every Democrat agree to this per Council President Kener without even seeing the job description or contract prior to making that decision
this reminds me of the January 2nd meeting when Councilwoman Call Galloway stated "Joe is the boss to all three Republican members of council when she was asked a question by one of us i realize that the committees were set up so that Democrats have full control but we should still go through the proper
steps we should table this matter until committees meet properly and make recommendations for the council to vote on in reference to hiring the city administrator and making director of public works part-time position we should invite the public to give input i will vote no on this matter otherwise i
believe it's been 12 or 13 years since we've had a city administrator so I don't see the rush to do this tonight my only allegiance here is the residents that we all work for i could care less about partisan politics on the municipal level they have no place up here on the Dian i don't hang out and talk politics
or give others a hard time because of they're a different party i do my job the best I can and I vote only for what I believe is right and fair and respectful to everyone we should be fighting for the residents and working together but if I must fight up here every week every meeting I absolutely
will please table this until we all have time to look at this property thank you anyone else yes I have a question mr barbaria when you got the chair I'm sorry Mr mr kener do you want me to address
you you say we have to thank you that's your job not in the minutes not dis No disrespect to you um when Mr barbario took the part-time position as public works director did he fill out an application for that job or was he
appointed because he was our arborist and you guys knew he had the qualifications and you felt he was a good fit for a part-time position i'm not sure about the application and somebody else could fill me in on that but we did have his resume okay and we knew his qualifications at that point
because that and let me let me just say and Mr dash explained that pretty well uh there was some things that I would I would say but a little bit different because what happened back in January as you know uh January 3rd we had a major
snowstorm and we had no one in charge out at the highway garage so and Keith had already left them Friday before them so the mayor actually made the decision to have somebody in charge so I actually
went there that morning and uh I Mr bolano was there there was a couple other people there and Jerry and that's when I saw Jerry go to go to work and I seen him organize the team and u there was some issues with some trucks and
different things we didn't have all the things we needed to attack that snowstorm and he did an excellent job in organizing that day and then since that day we had another snowstorm right after that if you remember so
our discussion there were no backroom secret meetings what happened was Jerry's worked for us since that point and we have worked with him talked to him about a lot of different things he's interacted with with everybody here at
the table uh in city hall i'm not questioning no what I just want to say to kind of respond to the back room meetings and stuff we we weren't doing that what happened was we had all the intentions in the world to hire a
replacement for Mr adams but what happened was the situation with Jerry changed and he talked to Mr adobe and told him that his job of the traveling was getting to him and that uh he wanted to give that job up and you know was
there an opportunity here for him to do something so they started talking and I guess the mayor got involved i was away i was actually in on my trip and when I came back Mr dodie filled me in on what was going on and uh it just seemed like
the right time and I remember Mr adobe saying you know we're looking for a code two people in code to run one person to run it one person to work there with the two guys that we already have and we're looking for a DPW superintendent if we
if we worked together and combined that we knew we had a guy that could do it we knew we had a guy that had the qualifications and it would be good for us as a city not for us Democrats or against the Republicans it's for all of us to make it where you know we're going
to have somebody in city hall operating the day-to-day operations which as the mayor correctly said it's been 12 years since we had that kind of and I don't think that's where the problem lies here i think what my
question is is we are a civil service city we hire through CI through civil service so when these jobs are out there applications have to be filled out that is the way it works you have to fill out an application city
administrator is a little different right city administrator is appointed but if you're giving him the DPW job and he did not fill out an application you can't hand him a job that he did not fill out an application already had the job he had a temporary correct job that
was temporary without an application filled out you said he's going to do this on a temporary basis that's why I'm asking if he I said I don't know if he filled an application out does anybody else know that he didn't he did okay so he didn't So he can't have a job that he didn't fill out an application for if
it's through civil service because that is you can't do that that's against how civil service works the same thing with code you can't give him the code job if he doesn't fill out an application from what I understand from when I did did
DPW with civil service that you have to fill out an application that's how it works we're not giving him the code job we're there is no code supervisor job and not in civil service because we had that discussion I think at one time okay when when Mr kener spoke to me on the
phone Monday or Tuesday that that was maybe part of the deal also that he takes over as code and I tried to explain that as an administrator when Tom Henaw was here he supervised every department in this building including public works and somewhat of the police
department believe it or not so in my personal opinion instead of phone calls here and there what would have been a more professional way would have been to have a a closed session of council where this was discussed among all council
where we could have a conversation as professionals and as adults sitting up here where we all could talk and it could be explained to all of us not a phone call to each different person where things get misconstrued and there's dogs barking and there's other things going on that would have been a
more professional and a better way to do this instead of coming here and now we're all sitting here hashing it out i feel that's very unfair and it's also very disrespectful to Mr barbario to do it this way well it was a time issue and I I did say that he needs to give a
month notice and then we also have an opportunity which I forgot to mention because this is all this is all just a matter of timing that um a a community would like to do a shared service and I'm
sure hired as the administrator because that was done on Friday or before before we even knew That's that's why we did the why uh did the phone call we knew that this was happening but we didn't know it could happen because we had to consult with attorneys and things like
that and there is there is no deal with the other community no there's no deal with the but see this is where the issue is i'm vice chair of public works when the chair decided not to do what we unanimously voted for he should have picked up the phone and said "Hey look
there's a change what do you guys think?" And just let you know Dash I never got that phone call either so yeah just to let you know and that's what I'm saying that's why I believe that this stuff is happening behind the scenes we know that and again I have nothing against Mr barbario i think he's done a very good job as as public works
director and I agree i had a conversation with him him a couple weeks ago where I called him and he was immediately on the situation and called me back within five minutes very professional we had a very nice conversation and I kudos to him he was he was absolutely perfect but it's the
way that it was done i just feel it was very unprofessional that it wasn't we didn't sit here and talk as adults to have it done it was done through phone conversations not where okay we're going to have a close session you know before the council meeting and we have
something to discuss and we know that there was a meeting that didn't include finance redevelopment and didn't include um public works um prior to January second 202 because that was stated at at the at the January 2nd that
there was a meeting well that and I was on finance i wasn't in that i don't I don't know about that i wasn't sworn in until January 3rd i understand right but we were told we were told at that meeting when I said "How did you hire somebody for DPW when DPW didn't have a meeting because you
hired him in 2024 basically to start in 2025 how did you have a meeting?" And one of the council people said "Well we had a committee meeting." Well I was on the committee i was the chair of DPW we didn't have a committee meeting well the new committee had a meeting well you can't do that if you're not the new
committee in in 2024 when you're the committee in 2025 and then the second time that was well that's what are under the bridge we need to move on that's what was set up here so like and again it happened a second time same exact way
not that's not what's How did Who in public works committee knew that we were going from a full-time candidate that we agreed to make an offer to to switching it to a part-time position for somebody completely different that we didn't
interview for it was I was myself right Mr i understand you did it but how is how do you make that decision without the committee being involved steve there were a couple circumstances at the end of last week uh we had
selected a primary candidate it was time to make an offer several weeks ago but last week was when we were making the off I was making the offer because previously I was still recovering from surgery so
the we we uh we had to check out Mr that candidates's background one more time which I did with the municipality where it was located at this time uh and then we were making a I was recommending to
the finance committee listen we're going to hire this person at 90,000 if he agrees to that title that that salary which we weren't sure he would um and we're looking at the possibility of ha
having um a supervisor in in the um code enforcement office and we're getting ready to do a budget and present a budget for the coming year and about that time is when Jerry indicated to me
that he had an interest in coming leaving his job so that was earlier last week and I called a meeting of the finance committee to say listen this is the set of circumstances we're at the point where we need to decide whether we
want to move ahead in this direction are you council president are you mayor ready to do it it's the the mayor's appointment so obviously Lisa was the most important person to be on board she
was totally on board with it um Joe was and so was Nette who's also on the finance committee that was the meeting Friday carlson and Carl's and he had been talked to by by Joe and did you never think to consult with the with the
public works committee about changing what we decided that should have been the first thing it should i should have gotten that phone call before Joe got that phone call i felt we needed to first get a consensus that that that's not how committees work when a government is run
through committees the committee is where you go first that's why we have the committees but this cross it doesn't matter comm the committees that's how it works the committees are where you go first that's why we have the committees formed well once it came to me and I
talked to the mayor uh then it became a finance issue because the administrator would go under the finance committee so that's when we started discussing it so we were still even at that point before we started discussing it we were still leaving the option open to hire a
full-time public works director and you guys had a candidate so at this point we had to make a decision and um maybe we rush it i would say that u you know the committee when did when did
you first learn about it what day the day I came home from my trip which would have been Thursday well we we had the meeting Friday friday you told you you were driving home from Florida when you got the call from Rick yes and so we went into action and we said okay can
this work and as a committee we looked at it and we said you know all these pieces that we've pieced together where the salary seemed to work and it made sense so then we said okay how do we how do we implement this it it because the
mayor was on board as the appointing authority and then s it's a mayor's appointment with the advice and consent of city council so as a finance committee we're saying hey we like this idea so we would the the mayor would
make the appointment so we would come here tonight as we're doing and have the resolution for our advice and consent so that's kind of how it happened it happened quickly but it made sense to us because we were at a crossroads with these positions from code and from
public works and we were able to do this and okay the numbers the difference in numbers between the mayor and me was because originally we said we weren't going to hire another person in code so that would have been around $40,000 savings hiring the person in code does
do that the part it drops it down to the 15 or 14 however the opportunity is even better for us as a community because there's another town and we we can't say that the what town it is because it's
still being talked about but um who wants to do a shared service and it would uh the number that we've heard is they would share service with Jerry um and share his cost up to
$66,000 so Jerry's then going to be full-time administrator full-time public works director here plus part-time administrator there no he's not administrator just grants oh just grant administration it's something
that he could do yes if we were only talking about city administrator then I wouldn't even have any of this conversation because it it's up it is up to the mayor the problem that I have is we're not going through committees
public works committee should have been consulted before we made any kind of offer to make anything different we interviewed these three guys twice in good faith they came in two times to talk to us all three were very good one
was exceptional um and now it's just like yeah we just wasted all their time well can I just add one thing there there was a guy and I we talked about this Steve that who applied for a part-time um superintendent of public
works and we had discussed at least I had discussed that yes early on early on that that might be a good way to go that the gentleman uh emailed me and said would you consider part-time I said at this point we'd probably consider anything so he put in his application
and like I guess a week before maybe the week of or the week before the interviews he pulled his application so in reality you would have interviewed someone or maybe you did did you interview him who who wanted the part-time job and that was a choice that
we could have made yeah but just to throw that because we we chose somebody but you didn't have a part-time well we had this we had a part-time we didn't have a part time i apologize for Steve wasting 10 hours of my time interviewing Spanish and never say we wasted our time
no wasted but I mean without getting no information because we did pick three excellent oh 100% and that's why we were waiting for a response that we never got and uh so I apologize to both of you that I didn't consult with you Friday
beforehand um this was uh moving fast and uh Meg also had indicated to me that um that a couple of the finalists were asking what's going going on and on Monday I said please notify them that the city is going in a different
direction and uh I have a couple follow-up calls with those people scheduled for tomorrow uh to explain what happened i mean I asked you directly what was going on at that point in time this was not happening because Jerry didn't indicate
to me that he was looking now to not continue in Anglewood Cliffs and uh if there was an opportunity here he would be interested in talking about it i said "Well I can't talk to you about that that needs to be with the mayor and uh
city council president." It just seems odd to me that we spent three months researching a public works director but we're hiring a city administrator slashpublic works director slash uh code overseer just in a couple
days well it's a person that we know and who has worked for us for over a year uh he hasn't worked for us in this capacity for over a year not this capacity so that really has nothing to do with city administrator no no we had one the thing is we
we've seen his work over the last three months has been excellent and he's done a really good job in that department and we know and we've talked to other people in Hamilton and other places that he's worked we've checked references and his
the recommendations are glowing so um from what we've seen and we have a guy that we know these people that you uh interviewed I'm sure they're good people the thing is the difference in my mind is wouldn't you rather hire a person
that you know and you know their work ethic versus somebody you don't know that you interviewed a few times and that's great but this opportunity came up and we thought it was the best thing for the city moving forward ever since I was involved in city council prior to me
being mayor and then during my mayor term we had an administrator not the whole time but I've been on city council without an administrator and I've been with an administrator and it's so much better in the day-to-day operation of
all the departments because there's one person in charge that you as a council person any of us and the mayor can go to and say "Hey we got this problem over here please find out what's going on take care of it." And like I said to you
we when we when the Republicans had control we discussed an administrator we had that in our long-term plan an administrator but it didn't happen it didn't happen in that because I recommended it i was on financ for three years recommended it every year did you
I'm sorry did you address the um council that No I'm addressing you well you you just told me she's right and I was speaking I was speaking that I was on finance for three years and it was for three years hiring administrator so
disrespectful doing that okay fair enough the thing is back when he it was in the long-term plan and we were told there was no money for it and we were also told by Lisa at that point that she didn't want an administrator at that point back then she was not ready for an
administrator she she had I don't recall saying that but I know Joe Joe Richie was not in favor of administrator and he made it verbal in public in public meetings well one thing I would say to all that is you're right there probably was no
money that's what I'm saying here all the right things came together and we're not against an administrator i think an administrator is a great idea because I think it's going to it's going to take a lot of the power and give it to one person it's not it's not power it's it's doing the right
thing on a day-to-day basis and making sure that the the city is running smoothly right now with committee chairpeople it's pretty tough you know everybody's got their lives and you know we do things as best i spend I'm retired
when I'm home I'm on the phone with P or Jody or Laura or whoever all day long oh I understand that and that isn't really the job my my question was being a civil service city does he have to have an
application filled out he can be appointed by the mayor for a public works well he's gonna oversee he's going to oversee the whole city with a focus on public work he's that's his with public works supervisor well in here it
says public works superintendent of public works does he have to Can I address that to the attorney does he have to have through civil service the job is posted through civil service correct it was posted but he never applied for it for the
other Mr mr knowledging that he was interested in full time i think the the job application would be an internal job application however that's filled out civil service isn't going to dictate what a job application has to look like civil service is going to dictate that
the job needs to be posted and and this is a promotion with one of our current employees yeah but for DBW Yeah director right as to administrator administrator separate that falls outside that's a mayor's employee right and I understand that completely but I
my concern was DPW being a civil service job and there was never an application filled out it was can you do this basically as a temporary position the application's internal process the civil service requirement would be Thursday as I understand but he didn't there was no
application in the very beginning either when he came on as a temporary can you do this for a temporary position until we hire someone so there's an opening closing tank for that piece of but there was but there was a resume there was there was no posting because it was temporary appointment in the very
beginning when the appointment became for a permanent appointment it was posted and he had already been acting in position the city had his resume or file and he had expressed that interest to the extent that he didn't file whatever the city's application is I can't speak
to that um flood had already been acting job from a state of a certain perspective I don't believe that that would have brought fail of civil services i will confirm that but sitting here hearing the what has gone on it seems that civil service will require a
posting for the position the city post okay thank you i appreciate you clearing that up for me that's all I was asking any other questions on the motion okay roll call please
no dash no yes galloway yes heist no hessie yes kenir yes timbers yes right let me get this straight this is going to save the city tax money yes yes and
that's all on record correct yes and we have a zero We just had our budget we just had our bud budget meeting and with these additions we have a zero increase on the tax rate oh board but just to put on the record that you know we were I was told back in December
that you know people can't do two things two jobs in the city just to let you know okay so that's uh some people motion passes welcome Mr barbario as our city
administrator can I finish my report test yeah finish your report sorry okay so uh just I sent my emails out for cleanup day which is May 3rd did everybody on council get their email yes
okay um there is a new business opening on 218 Philadelphia Avenue it's called All Family Connections and it supports children with disabilities they do want to meet and be involved with the city so hopefully we can set up something with
them uh just a reminder lake badges go on sale April 1st they're $15 um until um Memorial after Memorial Day and they go up to the um full rate of $25 and we this year I think I mentioned
it at the last meeting we do have a resident Yeah we have the resident a special resident pricing for tables and all that information is posted on Facebook and the web correct 97 and channel 97 thank you Meg that's your
baby and that's all I have thank you question yes the the new business is that nonprofit or regular it's regular i checked okay and what was the name of it all family connections i could I'll forward the email out to I don't think they may be nonprofit but they rent so
they don't they're not tax exempt for the property oh right yeah they used to be a tax business but basically they're renting it's not the property tax but they support children with disabilities they have a I I'll there's a whole list of things that they do they have like
art classes they have one more inspection that's great to hear so I'll I'll send that um letter they sent a letter i'll send that out to council thank you okay thank you um we'll go into uh council committee reports start with
Councilwoman Hessie with safety code enforcement uh and Rotary well safety there's nothing rotary uh just to let everyone know we've been working on the Easter egg hunt and um we
were stuffing eggs at the last meeting so if anyone has um children ages 1 to 12 um April 12th we will the Easter egg hunt will be at Rotary Park so come on out uh that's all I have for Rotary and
the code committee what I have is we completed the first interviews for the code enforcement traininee and are hoping to have a resolution for for the position at the next council meeting and um also the solid waste ordinance should
be updated and ready to present at the next council meeting as well our next meeting will be Tuesday April 1st at 6 p.m uh ACOA's director of solid waste will be present to address issues we've encountered and the second half of the meeting will be to discuss the current
software systems uh issues with the gentleman who runs that and lastly um it's been brought to my attention that many residents are not um not aware that when placing yard
waste out that you can't use plastic bags so um the ACUA will not pick up plastic bags so what you have to do is either put them in a um craft bag the brown bags or put them in a properly
marked container uh without a bag no bag just directly so um just so everyone knows and that's all I have thank you uh next we have Councilman Doy public works we we just had a
discussion of the process of evaluating the the candidates for for superintendent and and what the outcome was again uh Mason and Steve I I apologize again for not informing you as
soon as we were moving in this direction in the meantime uh Jerry has continued his part-time responsibilities overseing overseeing uh Department of Public Works and Jerry I don't know if you have a couple specific items you want to report
to everybody no nothing in detail uh nothing in detail but we are um gearing up for um working on the fields to make sure that um uh they're in good shape as well as um um starting to work on the
stuff for the lake including the paddle boats which the mayor wants us to make look better so we're doing those kinds of things and just preparing for what we hope to be a very busy summer season here in Thank you okay
that's it okay uh thank you uh property committee by Councilwoman Galloway um proper property and cemetery right property committee i met with the cemetery committee um last
week and the cemetery is considering erecting a kiosk to inter ashes what do you call that niche a niche and uh we need Mexico that's Miss Cemetery over there so that that might be a
possibility in the future so uh I have some good news to share um our $1 million federal grant has been reinstated at least for this fiscal year which ends September 30th and we were advised that it would be up to Congress
to fund it in the future i don't know if that'll happen but uh we're going to frontload everything to the federal grant in the time being um put we put out we're going to put out an RFP next week for a licensed tree expert to um
come in and remove trees trim trees remove stumps and so forth um Jerry as in his position as arborist has prepared a work plan for um those removals and so forth and they've been
identified how many in your sure I can post a little bit about right if I could um so based on the inventory that the Daisy um resource group uh provided us and completed we have they have identified um and we're ready to submit
to the state 97 dead trees on the streets in Earbor so those are the priority now um after that it'll be um pruning and then of course tree planting but in that order we need to get rid of
the houses dead trees and then move on jerry while you're there and not to interrupt your report but you know you just heard the whole conversation about the administrator slash uh jobs what is your take on all that and where do you
see uh yourself in that position no it's it's taken it's taken me 22 years to become an extremely efficient employee um in multiple positions and um it's not something that a new administrator new
public works manager can do um I did it in um Hamilton for seven years and continued um as a as in a larger community in uh in New York 250 employees and a $45 million budget um I
didn't have to run DPW but I was involved in every capital project including the complete rehabilitation of the sewer um infrastructure which was a $10.2 million project so I couldn't do this if
I didn't have 22 years experience and managing all sorts of brown fields managing all sorts of issues with the pineelands has been what I've been doing for my entire career so in addition to that with the
horiculture and the trees and the arborist and the turf um I'm just hoping um that in a very short period of time you can see a real big change here in the Gulper city thank you thank you that Miss Galloway
sorry um okay so Arbor Day plans are in the works uh Brenda Ruth's working on the second annual photo contest we got two tremendous submissions today they're beautiful photos and so um people can
either residents or students can submit up to two photos they would uh submit them through our website sustainable phc..org or the theme is um photo contest is trees throughout the season and we'll be given prizes for first
second and third place of 150 and $25 um and the program for Arbor Day will include some poetry readings from actual poets who write uh for the art center in Hamilton and um we're looking for students to do some readings and so
forth and we're also looking for vendors or um uh environmentally supported uh programs so if any if you know of anybody let me know and I'll I'll make the contact there uh and the other one thing I wanted to mention is that I'm writing the newsletter there's not much
in it so far so if anybody has anything please get me your flyers i got yours yes and I'll get it into the newsletter then question for the photo contest it has to be resident not really is it residents or students
students the students we want from a barber city but anyone really can submit creek has students from all over so that's right that's okay so Nette what was the date on that again i'm sorry arbor Day is April 25th okay and I don't
remember when the um peace pilgrim was you said April 26th july it's on the calendar july 19th no her birthday is on the 18th 23rd i think that's what she was i was going to say 19th or something i don't remember it's on the calendar
though okay so April 26 and then July i have to write that in my calendar nette I just want to tell you the uh barrel will be ready for that the rain barrel i was going to talk about that too okay come on i don't have it in here
i didn't have it in mine either i thought she sent an email about it um also will you get what's on the um Facebook page because I posted the um cleanup on there okay we we got the
Okay and then the Okay anything else no okay uh Councilman Timbers license and ordinance uh license ordinance we're going to meet uh next week um we'll we still have some
ordinances that we're going to be discussing such as uh draft receptacles um also um I I don't know if we'll be discussing anything and do it with with trees there may be some funding and that might um bring something up for that um
but we'll see okay anything else um uh Aaron H that they met last week at the roundhouse uh they uh elected their officers for the year um also they collected dues they
discussed the citywide cleanup this is Aaron Huffington sorry uh again they uh they elected their officers uh they collected dues they discussed the citywide cleanup date um possibility of a raffle um and they
also discussed just cleaning up Gate Harbor City in general um they also discussed the possibility of discussing with uh Miss Nette Galloway about um uh there's going to be an Earth Day coming up and and maybe
they could share a table with her um and that was it also uh there was a uh land use board meeting uh there is a cannabis grow company located in the industrial park
and they will be using a um like a a greenhouse uh to grow and um they were discussing possible parking issues and also um possibility of expansion down the line if that was possible um I
figure that that may be discussed at the uh engineers um court and the green the greenhouse is taxable in case anyone's wondering i checked with Ryan on that one okay thank you Carl um next we have
parks and playgrounds council member Ray uh yeah kind of got something i guess it could be part of city i guess with the uh the market thing is do we not have to make a motion for them to be be able to use that parking lot across the street
from the lake i I would wait till she secures the she did it's done i didn't get any Well it's going through Dave okay i think she has to resubmit that application is that what she said yeah like she'll have to do a use of facilities application which we can do
next but she's doing that through Dave she booked i mean you said Oh oh okay gotcha gotcha to change location gotcha all right that's why I'm going to hold her up planning i haven't heard I don't
know she said secured it with Dave then she should be fine it's secured with Dave i mean you can mention it june is it June 23rd june 26th 26th 28th 28th and rain day 29th okay yeah i'm
thinking of football the 26th yeah June 28th which is that Saturday we should have it for next anything else no just that um the green market um like I said wants to uh do a festival out there by the lake and rent the pavilion uh they did want to do it
at Rodeo Park but the problem is they're expecting like 3,000 people and 118 vendors um it was just too small of an area for that big of a capacity far as parking and everything else so we reached out to her and she was willing to move it to the lake which I think it
would be more beneficial for them since the proceeds you know some of the money they're making is getting donated to the roundhouse so um she's looking to um use the basically the you know lake parking for the vendors after they do their stuff and then basically across the street the parking for people to be able
to park to and then you know go to the event um so but she did reach out to me and ask me if I can make an announcement that she is looking for any kind of clubs in the in Egar City that would like to do games like to put a table up or whatever the case may be she's trying
to make it as big as possible she really kind of wants to try to bring that night in the park back so that's kind of the idea of this whole thing so we'll see how it how it trickles out could you tell me who is this who are we i I don't know any Alexander yeah Alexander is her name
but the company is it's green market um flea markets it's a benefit flea market to raise funds for the roundhouse so a portion she actually does this for a living yes which you know I don't have to give a percentage for earnings
correct correct um she's also looking for the landing strip field how will that That's what I'm talking about that she didn't submit anything yet that's what she needs to use of facility for for that to be um cleared who would do that because she
said should she go out and I said no do not go out and mow that down don't don't do that we we had that issue one time there's one there's one thing about that we have to check because the bridge the construction on the bridge they're going to use that lot yeah not that soon okay
yeah ryan hasn't called given me my my personal phone call that I I get the first phone call i'll call everybody else or email you when that's happening but Brian promised me I get the first phone call when they're starting construction on the bridge the most impacted so I can go get my milk and bread been talking with Mason she has to
submit another use of um facilities and insurance certificate for the city because um Dave Ben has the management company for the pavilion gotcha so that would be okay maybe you'll text her or I told her already that she needed to to do it i text her
yesterday okay so hopefully I mean she never responded back saying okay or anything she asked me if she needed something through Dave and I said no you were fine but I don't know if you got to her after me or before me i text her i'll tell you later don't ask me when I texted her please but I told her cuz I
know she wanted to do like a banner across Philly AB i told her she needed to get a permit application she had you know it takes like 30 days to get the permit i told her to check and that she would have to reach out and try to find somebody to um Yeah yesterday at uh 12:06 I talked to her i sent her a text
did you say she doesn't she doesn't have to talk to Dave no she we did talk to Dave and um she's got the pavilion she's p she's in for the pavilion she doesn't have to fill anything out for him because when in talking with him he was talking about trash like she was
reaching out to ACUA to help out with the trash that's what she told me and then I know she had a couple questions for the chief that she was going to reach out to the chief i don't know if she actually reached out to you yet so probably once she submits that application to the city knowing that the plans have changed we can go from there
i mean I'll send her a text again tomorrow just to tell her that she has to resubmit the application and make sure okay anything else uh other than that uh just to remind everybody T-ball uh signups are still going on every Wednesday night until the 23rd and T-
Bowl will start the 25th of April and and I was wondering if crusaders could start putting this information on the Facebook page because there's nothing on our Egg Harbor City page i'll find out on the Egg Harbor City page but it would make sense right to do get as much as
advertisement as possible listen if I could find two minutes in a day to be able to do that I would be more gladly to do that but my mind is I mean last time I went on Crusaders Facebook page and cut it cut something I think for football and put it on the page because nobody's putting it up
but it's on our I'll take care of it yeah it's on our page okay yeah okay uh next we have Councilwoman Clark the school board uh nothing to report thank you okay do you have any idea uh of their budget uh I got to check the calendar when the budget meeting is okay
good i will attend and I'll report back okay the one thing I heard uh recently is that the county tax rate is going down two cents and if we're going to stay flat on ours uh it it's really going to depend on what the school does
and be nice to know where they stand so okay uh chief of police report okay in the two weeks since we last met um we've had one burglary reported one
stolen motor vehicle one um we've had 10 other vehicle accidents three pedestrian stops 46 traffic stops total of 26 issues one DUI arrest for a total of 11 arrests so there 10 other arrests one DUI um six business alarms one
residential alarm 62 crime prevention activities one of qualified domestics 23 EMS calls six follow-ups 140 property checks six public service um the notice that I did not mention any firearms applications because apparently in the last two weeks nobody's applied because every week
routine seems to have more but I've just noticed that that's not enough some notable things that we have done in the last few weeks um Officer Rosenberger was uh got some information about somebody in town who
um got information about a guy with two warrants with one of them being unlawful possession of a weapon who's also certain a certain person who's not possessed uh we were assisted by New Jersey police and gallery detectives he was arrested and charged with two counts of CVS possession of
CVS and Rod Rose warrants um some of our officers also uh conducted a car stop that resulted in the finding of a gun uh they did a search warrant and I believe they found another adult in the vehicle so we've been we've been busy
um yeah so those are some things that have been going on other than that I would like to say that April there will be a traffic enforcement initiative we do have grant funding from uh highway safety for um Oh they changed it it used to be you text do you drive you pay but
now it's something something else about distracted driving so there will be enhanced enforcement on our local road for that so we'll have officers out there doing that other than that because this has already been a long meeting I'm not really going to say much of anything
else to answer questions didn't you do something at the school though i know you did the reading the book reading but wasn't there something after that at the community school no that was the same day the the random acts economist thing yeah no that was that was the same
day um one question I do have sorry Gary back to the administrator thing um will the administrator have appropriate and appointing authority or will that remain no it will remain with me he will head of the police he has nothing to do with the police department i could give him
that you know authority but I won't he probably doesn't want it i won't it's all yours there you go all right thank you Chief uh next we have our CFO
other than a flat budget right thank you Jody uh city clerk okay engineer sure nothing else green a little bit with their
permits electrical permits or just drawings tonight um I confirmed the application is being electric for the cancer electrical services um and the application we still haven't heard anything finance
so pushing city hall improvements are still working in design anticipating spring the storm projects we made plan submission today so a big push and we're going to meet with them and try to confirm that we can
qualify both for the FY25 and 26 money so quickly vice president last meeting so we need to get some property owner and structure 50 years
old next week or so uh we have requested new requested information the opportunity to schedule a meeting uh development we got an email today that they're going to schedule the project kickoff
meeting s just sent an invitation for that i still have information for that when we do it coming but it sounded like they do it at some point in April or the cannabis cultivator uh like Paul mentioned we have uh an application to
construct a small wedge processing rebuilding um sort of an office that they store the product and then they have an outdoor well not outdoor a um greenhouse structure so that will be on concrete pad will be a full natural
structure but it will be less you know intensive than some of the others we've gotten for indoors they're trying to make more money be able to control so that will be a full around it they have to submit a full security plan including police department so they have
access to cameras and all that but yeah that will be culac portion called Marty Wilson Marty Wilson So yeah they're you know right
right tiny little parking lot it's only 536 small building um but it's uh you know just a regular guy sort of 9 to5 he's not one of the major companies who's coming in with he literally cried he was so happy that we approved it so
it was interesting to see you know hopefully he does well and get things off the ground ryan I just have one question about that um like was brought up at the end of the meeting um since it's not like really a brick and mortar and it's like you know not really hard
substance on the outside um do they have to have does he have to have more surveillance because of that more like the outdoor as we talked about did you find out anything about that i believe all of that is regulated by the cannabis regulatory commission so he'll have to comply with their rules mhm not going to
pretend we know what they are on the security side but um what I understand it is more intensive because I mean you're allowed to do an outdoor road right right city does not did not include that ordinance so if somebody came with that they would be use fairy um but yeah I mean I imagine more
stringent you know security requirements we did mention um that they intended to use like AI for um and um and infrared for you know to to recognize like a person climbing a fence and and notify immediately so you don't have to have somebody sitting watching the camera you
would get an alert to say like it appears that someone's climbing the fence as they're so I assume that's part of requirements and the other thing is as far as the Weisspecker demo um there's no is there approximate date or anything to uh we
don't have anything yet i mean look at Chris on the notifications for the property owners he wasn't here for the last meeting sorry yeah well the pipelines we already had a conversation with them a while ago and they kind of said look if it's health hazard just submit it as an emergency application kind of move forward in
parallel but at least we can talk process um and then we had a contact at D they said even when you move forward this let us know so we'll do that and the uh pickle ball courts um you said it's it's complete the base paving is complete i still see the yellow the the
the white mark right so that was the base paving that they did a month or so ago whatever it is now um they have to do a surface paving over that um you go to talk to them about whether they want to do like a thin levering course or something in between i mean in theory you can correct all of the low spots
with a surface course but it's really hard to follow and adjust the depth that the machine is laying the asphalt it would be a lot easier if they just came into the leveling course and got it all like real close and then came back and just topped it so we got talk to him about that gary would like to say a few
things on that could you come up Gary and state your name please oh it's gonna be long that's why we want to put you on the spot yeah everybody wants to get out of here I was over there involved with the the T-Rex project with the paving i I was
over there every day when they did the base coat and when they did the the first 4 in layer on top of that and after we got the heavy rain I went over and spray painted all that for all those low spots so we don't wind up with this problem when it's done because they're
going to perform a flood test my concern is when the flood test is done once it's wrong you're not going to correct it right it's impossible to correct and I've seen this done on city streets when you get a low spot that machine goes across it and it's going to put an inch and a half on there you're going to wind
up put a drop in that inch and a half and that's what we're going to wind up put over there and if you look there's a load of low spots i literally got the whole place no I took a video of it so look when we're done with this project we don't wind up
with an improper worksmanship you know is there a warranty on this or anything so they can only supply a one-year warranty but you got to make sure when the flood test is done that they're notified right away if there's a problem
well who does a flood test they are yeah they have to do that once the the service ping is done we we weren't really involved in the procurement we just sort of stepped in to help out you guys went to a state contract to get it done which fine but um the the vendor my guess is they're going to say "Well we
didn't include lever course in our proposal." And our response to that is going to be "Okay well you don't have to do one but when you pave it and there are puddles you're going to have to mill and overlay the whole thing so it would be a lot cheaper to just come in and do a leveling course and then surface pave it you'll use the same amount of paving
because it's going to be the same profile when you're done if you do it right." Right so you know just gonna spend another hour or so running through and doing a leveling course and just getting those low spots sorted out first and then just do a surface overlay of the whole thing so we can make sure that this is this is done that's going to be
my recommendation to them is you should do it this way if you want to you know try to correct the low spots i mean technically you have the ability to alter the uh the thickness of the asphalt as you're running the machine but like I said it's really hard to figure out like okay low spot starts here let's slowly bring it up so we can adjust the filling board is there going
to be an inspector on site do you know besides Gary probably not i have no idea but the problem they're going to have that I see right now is they put all the inserts in for all the netting now they got them set to inch and a half because that's the final
finished pavement now if that machine doesn't get that right with those low spots there's no way to correct it because all those inserts are all going to be wrong well would would we be able to get someone from your office over there to look at it while they're doing it because you know we've got a lot of issues with
things not being done right with paving and sidewalks and point we could we could head this off oh I mean I a lot of inspectors who you know watch pavement for 30 plus years so we have a veteran inspector out there and meet with them before they start
have that conversation below and of course with the guys who are going to do the work it's one for it's one thing for me to talk to the guys in the office of Pennsylvania that doesn't always translate guys who are in so I guess we need to know if council would be in favor of that
we have to pay pay Ryan just do it you know but an inspector on a general engineering budget doesn't crazy okay i heard Gary for a parttime job so he works full time for the city okay while I'm up here just to let everybody
know I know it's not time for public comment or whatever but all the lights in the city all the lights have been basically taken care of the problem lights I only have one light behind Janiro's that's been a long time probably a year out and to get credits I
spoke with Jody about this it's like impossible to find out if they issued us credits we've had lights out for six months a year and I know Abin has the same problem they contacted Ryan and find out who their go-to guy was basically to keep the lights on so I
kind of stay on it and I have you know friends that are retired with me that are back as contractors and I kind of work with them basically to keep the lights on and get the problem lights we finally got the one in front of Big Nelly's if anybody remembers where that is on the main street we got that one resolved we got Rittenberg resolved and
we got one behind Janeiro in the city lot resolved there's only one there left and all the remaining lights are there's probably only like four two at Harbor Fields they're going to replace all the poles at Harbor Fields the three laminated poles because they're all wood
one fell down so there's uh it's in the making there they already put an order in to replace all those wood laminated poles over at Harbor Fields so thank you that should be you know is if everybody in the city whether it's a private or
it's the council or it's the police department if everybody would re report those lights on their app it would keep the lights on so we don't wind up like we did before where we had 140 lights out i've been working with this for two years literally and to work with Exelon
it's just terrible it's not like it was when it was Atlantic City Electric for me to get these lights on we had to go to the BPU and that pushed the envelope with them basically to fix the lights and like Fsein's having a problem out in Glass they got 1,300 lights out so
everybody knows when the lights are on it's better security you know it's better for traffic it's better for kids at night riding bicycles somebody doesn't get hit so if anybody sees a light app you can report it on an app on your phone or I guess contact somebody
here at city hall and they can report it it's easy to do just need the number right pardon me the number yeah you just need the number you should have it on the website yeah you go on the app and you can bring the poll number up right on the app and then
you submit light is out light cycling whatever's wrong with the lights so we just had two major issues one at Harbor Fields the tap was bad that light was out in the back at Harbor Fields for the longest time and over on the terrace
where the Lloyd Winberg building is on Atlantic Avenue that whole turret was down and what evidently happened is the triplex came down either from a tree or a storm in some period of time it could have been down for six months or a year we don't know but when I finally reported the light and they sent
somebody over there they really realized that there's no wire there it was knocked down cutting the clear never put up so all those lights feeding the church and the alley were all out well they're all back on thank you thank you Gary really posting it
and that's your answer to why the pole bill was more expensive than the electric bill yeah there you go 140 lights out right thank the city workers i work along with the city workers uh and Jerry over at the ball field and we got the top
capping one fence 900 foot installed so uh the first day uh they sent Junior over and Johnny and we got 300 foot on and the next day we had an extra guy we got Tyler over there with four of us and we did the other 600 foot so the whole
top of the fence secured and tomorrow ah you weren't supposed to say that tomorrow the bottom will be secured had an unknown day unknown day and time so because what's happened is on the bottom all the rings that they put on are not
commercial grade hog rings and from the kids kicking the fence all those rings are off so now they're going to put actual certified hog rings on the bottom so you initiated this did you initiate this i did a fence in what does
Thank you again yes thank the football the baseball fields are inary city you know for helping us with those couple projects last year we got 50 tunnel at Babe Ruth we got 50 tunnel on the Gavin field and this year we put
75 tons on the little league field did you put any on Babe Ruth or No last year we put 50 ton oh so you're not doing any this that's why I said So they're all done so Okay great thanks guys thank you all right and I would add about a light situation we have to follow up with the bridge
lighting before it starts i got I got his determination on that we're good there all right thank you is this a bridge from the school sorry i'd like to number 12 on the agenda is the city attorney reporting no
report uh number 13 motion to approve the American Cancer Society 53rd bikeathon is there a motion i'll make a motion second motion has been made second all in favor can I mention one thing about
that sure um this is the American Cancer Society bike from Philadelphia to Atlantic City or where's it going this year i don't know but I helped my uncle form your very first spikeon and there's a great story that goes along with that
what year 53 years ago i'll tell you someday okay okay opposed none opposed motion yes okay number 15 on the agenda is the budget appropriations to reserve
transfers make a motion second motion made and seconded roll call questions anybody have a question clark yes dash yes toby yes galloway yes
heist yes pass yes gainer yes timbers yes right yes okay motion passes um number 16 on the agenda authorizing certain utility refunds make a motion second motion made and
seconded questions roll call clark yes dash yes doy yes galloway yes heist yes pessie yes kener yes timbers yes right yes okay motion passes um number 17 on the
agenda is refund certificate of occupancy inspection fees for the Bandy Group LLC they made a dup duplicate payment of $75 roll make a motion second motion made seconded clark yes dash yes
dovy yes galloway yes heist yes pessie yes kenir yes timbers yes right yes motion passes uh number 18 resolution fiscal 26 municipal alliance grant is
there a motion motion second motion made second questions a roll call please clark yes dash yes joby yes galloway yes he timbers yes yes
motion passes number 19 uh pay the bills make a motion second second third motion made second clark yes dash yes toby yes galloway yes pist yes passing yes painer yes timbers
yes wright yes okay motion passes number 20 on the agenda is comments mayor I did forget to mention one thing in my report that um I had an opportunity to attend Cedar Creek today
i talked to 200 freshmen um in four groups four se you know Karen went to represent the NPP and Colette the librarian also went um to do whatever's going on the library to get volunteers so this was really about B getting
volunteers so I did manage to get a list of probably maybe 20 or so volunteers as as did Colette i will um make a list and you know if anyone would like to get a volunteer um I'm happy to give a paper for community service if you need it we
use a lot of those kids at the um yeah and these are freshmen so that will be a great thing for the crusaders too so I'll make that contact list and hopefully I'll be able to share it with everybody or if you need help somewhere just let me know and I can send that out and that's what I have and welcome Jerry
thank you for uh Thank you Jerry for agreeing to be our administrator i'm looking forward to it he was daydreaming about missing the Parkway okay uh council comments uh we could start down this end uh Councilman Clark
uh nothing at this time thank you nice nothing thank you Councilman no I said nothing tonight councilman Derby no no thank you tam Carl F council woman i just want to say
congratulations and welcome sherry Councilwoman on board i'm sure you're going to do a fabulous job i'm looking forward to it because we you know I don't know if you realize how many meetings we attend but hopefully they'll be cut down maybe in the F so
welcome thank you thank you uh Councilman Wright no good uh the only thing I have to say is uh we were remiss at the last meeting to mention that one of our former council women uh Peg Rush passed away and her
funeral was last week uh she was on council for like six years back in the 90s and uh very nice lady um number 21 on our agenda is public
comments anybody else uh any comments state your name hi my name is I just wanted to say um hi Seth Mr penny thank you guys for coming all welcome um I just wanted to say though what you
had to sit here and deal with was a lot i'm sure everyone see but you handled it very well thank you had it been the other president totally different because he's quick to cut everyone off so I love that love the way the new board is run the
way it should be run we treated everyone up here with respect regardless of Republican you know Democrat that's the way it should be run so I love that this you know for this minute you know this new year going forward hopefully safe like that as far as the comment being
made why should everyone be out there barking like a dog sometimes people like to do that because they like to get patted on the back later on on Facebook just the way it is and again I like to say thank you to Councilwoman Clark but just keeping her cool because we already knew the numbers
were headed congratulations thank you you do well thank you thank you and for the lake i'm sure you know you'll see a a more packed lake this year all right thanks Kim thank you anyone
else no other comments is there a motion to adjurnn motion made second second oh oh yeah